38 and finally got my ollies on point again.. YOU sir, are my inspiration, truly.

@rust2092

3 жыл бұрын

@Rich XN Trick Right on!

@danielkonrad1444

3 жыл бұрын

Now that you are 40, hows it going?

@viracocha03

Жыл бұрын

Im 38 now and just getting back into it after almost 20 years.

My biggest regret is quitting skating for 12 years because my GF at the time told me i was too old to skate. It took me that long to figure out and realize that life is too short to not do the things in life that make you happy.

@Tombrosapien

4 жыл бұрын

Never change for a fucking female.

@morrislafveskans3499

4 жыл бұрын

How old where you? You should start again if you have’nt yet. Sorry for bad english im swedish

@345Taco

4 жыл бұрын

@@morrislafveskans3499 I was around 16 when I quit, and around 28 when I started again. I'm in my 30's now and I don't rip but it feels great to still be able to skate

@345Taco

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tombrosapien It's not necessarily a female issue. Never change for anyone that isn't looking out for your best interests. Most people that criticize your passions have no passions, and aren't good at anything

@versnellingspookie

4 жыл бұрын

@@345Taco good way of seeing it. Happy tk hear you're back on the board

Never would have know, you seem so clean cut.

@JaxBeach2NewportBch

5 жыл бұрын

Jersey Devil further proof not to judge a book by its cover right? I, like you, was a little shocked that he was sober. He does seem clean cut. But I’ll tell you what, being in Florida during the Wild West of roxi’s in 2006-2012 was a crazy time for so many. Stockbrokers to bag boys at the grocery store were all hooked. And now we have heroin epidemic. Thanks Merck!

You are living proof that age is irrelevant when it comes to passion. Also you look hell of a lot younger than 37. It could be because of the healthy mindset you've built. I was inspired by your videos since you started the channel and took skateboarding again at age 30 after a 10 year pause. And this made me feel and look younger as well. So thank you!

my biggest inspirational geriatric skater is you

@MaxnochWeniger

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with that!

@chaikneesnollies5398

5 жыл бұрын

Lol hell yeah

@bobbyparson9229

5 жыл бұрын

lol hes not old.

@quasar55cancrie65

5 жыл бұрын

Same here,you are my inspiration to learn new tricks at the age of 38!

@MrPDTaylor

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobbyparson9229 yes he is

Right. I quit at 20 because of knee problems and recurring inflammation. Now, i didn't know at that time that all came from smoking and drinking too much alcohol, while totally avoiding to drink enough water. I unknowingly dried out my joints, the doctors advised me to take pills and think about surgery. Even worse, i developed balance problems over the years, and this is why i got on the board again at 43, to train my balance. Your videos gave me back the confidence to skate in public areas, regardless of how many people i know probably call me nuts (or midlife crisis victim) behind my back. I improved (re-)learning (old and) new tricks, thanks to your contributions.

@charo703

5 жыл бұрын

I was wondering, when I skate a lot, I get really bad pain in my knees especially after sessions. It hurts a lot squatting down. Was this the same thing for you?

@makrospex

5 жыл бұрын

@@charo703 Mine hurt when standing up, landing tricks and going up stairs. A dull type of pain, occasional stinging sensations. Where in your Knee is the pain located? If it's located around the knee cap, it might be just tendinosis (just google it). The pain would feel like you hit something with the knee. Describe a little bit more, please. If the pain comes from deep inside the knee, well... that might be some bad news then, i guess.

@charo703

5 жыл бұрын

@@makrospex Yeah definitely looks like tendinosis. I won't be able to skate for months anyway because of winter so I hope it will get better next summer. Pain is my inside of the knee, like you said, hurts when I go up stairs but only after a big skate session.

@andrewstendahl36

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 43 and Ben got me skating again. I've been at it for 5 years. I ordered a powell deck today and it was thick like a cheap moose board. Ben would have noticed right away, I gripped it and skated it before I realized how cheesy it actually was. It wasn't the grade of deluxe or generator decks which I wouldn't have known about if it weren't for Ben. Sometimes he says he's boring us, I disagree, Ben's become the skating buddy I never had

I'm 45 and fully rippin' it...I had a broken ankle from a car accident that I had to deal with for 2 summers. Everyone was so cool when I had to basically relearn everything, but it all came back , so I'm lucky.

Ted Degros is your brother? wow.... i love his north part. Is he still skating? Very good video . Im 31 now with adult life but no kids and i know i will regret for not skating more. My biggest inspiration is having tons of fun, disconect from the problems ( or turning it in to a heavier sesion) and feeling younger more alive than the people of my age. Sorry for my english!

hi Ben, its funny cause im pretty much in the same situation as u, my skating started fading when i was 17 (Im 23 now), and i was able to get some second and third places at contests around my area, then the alcohol and drugs came in, granted I done pretty much everything but weed was my drug of choice mainly. failed college and such and ive been working for 3 years now, it took me exactly 5 years to realize that weed just takes away my whole motivation. I occasionally smoke now and still enjoy it but my passion for skateboarding and progressing is my main passion now. I feel better fysically and mentally, skateboarding got my life back on track again and although i feel lots of regrets that i didnt progress in those crucial 5years, Im thankful for skateboarding to get me out of that hole. Seeing you skate before work at 6 in the morning gets me so hype! greetings from Belgium, Max

@Jb001jb

5 жыл бұрын

kripem dude, nevermind your “lost” years. You are only 23!! You can skate easily for the next 20 years to come! Imagine how i feel... i’m 37 and bought my first board in over 17 years. Keep a positive mindset. Eat, sleep and exercise well. I can assure you, it helps to feel good overall. Not doing drugs will help too. ☺️ You have all the time in the world. Just have fun

@najfandaARES30

5 жыл бұрын

I dont think weed affected your skateboarding.. It is your choice how to handle weed and skating and weed is not for everyone.. Weed was always at skateboarding. If you smoke you smoke and its on you how you handle your life.

At 36 you are my biggest inspiration and one I can relate to the most, not trying to get mushy but yeah lol

Love the lil portable grind ledge & clever adjustable height construction 👍 Dang I can't imagine how good you'd be if you'd never stopped because you're sooo good now! But life is funny like that, never know what she'll throw at ya. Glad to see you're still pushin wood 💕🤙

Keep doing you, Mr. Ben. Just remember that your current level is someone’s goal. Thank you for the inspiration and helping all of us reach our goals.

@crackadon86

5 жыл бұрын

"Your current level is someone's goal". Wow, a lightbulb just went off in my head. I'm recooperating from an injury and I'm a bit down on myself/my own skate ability atm, but your comment totally made my day.

@Dan-eq8nn

4 жыл бұрын

@@crackadon86 same here👍

Ben, you’ve inspired me to get back on at 37 and have some fun. Today i bought shoes and ordered my new board. Motivated to exercise and get back in to shape too. First session next weekend in over 17 years. Without the injuries in recent years, i would have done it a lot sooner. I’m confidend to get the basics back real soon. Don’t be to modest. Your skating is very good!

@bendegros

5 жыл бұрын

Take it easy on your first session. Don't get cocky or too excited and lets hope you can have a pleasant injury free re-entry back to skating.

@Dystopia1111

5 жыл бұрын

I restarted at 43 after 15 years off the board. Take things low and slow the first little while for sure. Be patient with it and don't be discouraged if things don't come back as quickly as you think they should. That said, before long you'll be surprising yourself getting back some of the old mojo and starting to progress with new stuff as well. Most importantly- have fun!

@Jb001jb

5 жыл бұрын

Dystopia1111 thanks! Much appreciated! Will take it easy. Can’t remember for a long time beeing so motivated to commit myself. Motivated to exercise and get back in to shape too. ✌🏻

@Dystopia1111

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jb001jb It will definitely take at least a few weeks for the legs to fully come back. My 1st couple months after restart I would skate just short sessions and my legs felt pretty shredded up the next day. You just don't think about what kind of conditioning it takes when you're younger! As your legs come back you can skate longer and more often, recover faster, and the old pop will start to redevelop. Pretty much all of that will really help re-progressing. Like I said, that first few weeks in particular may be tough, but if you stick with it things get easier before long. Good luck man!

@dennispagano10

5 жыл бұрын

I did the same last year. Same age. You will not regret it. It's like a second chance! Listen to Ben's tipps and you'll enjoy it for sure

Alot of respect for you man, I'm 24 years old and have often worried about losing skateboarding at some point in my life. I too have dealt with addiction and wasting time when I should have been bettering myself on the board, but seeing dudes like you still finding the time and passion to keep ripping inspires me for the future. I work 6 days a week as a construction worker and I never miss more than a day of skating now, and I've seen it pay off immensely, I'm skating better now then when I was 18.

I now know why I was sent to your channel. I am 26, I started skating a 6 and started doing drugs at 16. I would skate some but I would do drugs and party way more than skating. I can now say I am completely done and have been sober for 7 months now. I’ve had enough and this is the longest I’ve ever stayed sober. That’s why I know I’m done. I’ve been riding bmx as I have for many of years along with skating. I’m about to go get another board because I’ve been deeply pulled back into skateboarding. I support your channel and I love your story. I’ve been watching your channel none stop for like a week now and I have finally figured out why I stumbled onto your channel. To hear your story. Everything happens for a reason. Keep doing good and keep skating.

Havent watched the full vid yet.. but first minute already, and i have to pause and commend you for your maturity in bringing the rest of us valuable lessons from your experience

I'm 38 and just getting back into skateboarding after almost 20 years. In my early 20's i went through a rough drug addiction for a few years after a bad injury. I have been sober for years now but I'm just deciding to get back on a skate. Really appreciate some of these videos.

Thanks for the honesty and inspiration.

Your the man Ben. You are my inspiration in getting back skating!

I’m 33 and in recovery thank you you IInspire me to keep skating and staying clean and it’s funnyI work for my family too but we’re plumber but watching you put the skateboard bug in me Thank you for your inspiration

Hittin' home in a big way with this one. Great video Ben.

Appreciate the insight, honestly, & attitude you bring to your videos. Keep crushing it!!

It's refreshing to hear how candid and honesty you are about that period in your life. You've come so far and are inspiring others as well, skateboarding thanks you.

You’re skating is so good Ben and like many have already said, you’re a huge inspiration for us!

Excellent video! Thanks for opening up and sharing with us :) Sometimes it's hard to believe people can change so drastically, but the way that you're able to reflect and adjust yourself proves that it happens. Maybe the exercise of reflecting and adjusting your mind to change your life was strengthened by your skateboarding and going through that process repeatedly for improvement.

That was such a great video Ben. Thanks a lot for being such an honest person. Fully flared is my all time favorite video. The start sequence is so full of energy - it makes me want to go outside every single time!

very courageous of you to admit it ! im 32 and you inspire me a lot ! thanx !

Echoing some other comments here, you are an actual inspiration to me and surely many of your viewers. I'm in my late 20s now and also trying to start a family and juggle work. I've only got a few basic flip tricks (I was super stoked just to land a front heel), but seeing you manage to have such a large bag of tricks while raising 4 kids is a good motivation for me. I might have to start getting up at 6 and skating in parking lots!

Love your video as always! Always inspiring to improve, appreciate your honest skate content :)

35 here. I stopped skating in my mid twenties and just got back into it this year. I also find guy Mariano to be a huge inspiration. Also, equally sow, is you and this channel Ben. Seeing you progress and adapt your skating gets me stoked every time

Always an inspiration, brother. 23, turning 24 here, always love to hear your story. I'm glad you got clean and are here to pass along and remind us of these humble wisdoms.

Great talk and great skating. As an older skater, I can really relate. It's all about just having fun and progressing where I can now. That bench has such a simple design. I've built a few boxes but theyre all heavy and complicated.

@bendegros

5 жыл бұрын

This one is heavy AF

Love the honesty and genuine self-reflection/realizations. These are issues that many can relate to.

Thanks for sharing this bit about you. It must take a lot of dedication to skate being how busy you are

Ben dude your the whole reason I started skating again. Everytime I see one of your vids it motivates me to go skate. I know you're your biggest critic but the videos speak for themselves man you got alota talent man. And it's inspiring to see a man with a family still keeping the fire alive. Alota men give up at that age drink beer and get lazy. Man seriously you gave alota people inspiration 12000 people. Don't give up man your fans love you!

Happy your man enough to tell your story I think kids need to hear 🙌🙏

Ur the best man! I can relate sometime life takes over drugs alcohol the inability to stay motivated parenthood work staying healthy and positive all huge factors. Not ignoring this and starting to setup myself to succeed in life and in skating! Ur a huge inspiration to alot. Thnx for sharing ur life with us.

Wow I like that portable ledge. And perfect show of tricks too :) Thanks Ben!

Awesome insights,thanks mate, cheers from Australia

I quit at 15 just got back into it this year got all my tricks back and learning new things every week man i found the love and passion i once had..I found your vids through the Drywall channel and was mind blown when i saw you skate you were actually my inspiration to get back man thanks alot Ben.

Thank you, Ben for inspiration!

My biggest regret is putting skating down after I graduated high school. I had promise, not that I would have went pro or anything but I felt accomplished. I stopped because like most kids after graduation I had to grow up and be an adult. I joined the Army which changed me drastically as a person. Years down the road at 30, I picked it back up and don’t possess any where near the same skill but it has been one of the best things I could have done for my mental and physical health. Your videos along with John Hill inspired me to get back into skating. Yours and johns videos randomly appeared in my KZread feed one day and it was perfect timing in my life where I felt lost. I wouldn’t be who am I today without skating.

Dude you just told my story bro. Thats exactly what happened to me addiction! I was on hard drugs while on a flow program. From age 19-28 I was to messed up to skate got clean found another passion playing guitar and painting guitars. I have massive regrets because I always thought I was to old to skate again. At age 43 I started skateboarding alone and its all coming back dude!!!. 3 kids full time job I skate early morning and lunch breaks. Thank you for this channel dude I know im not alone here lol

This is such a great video. Thank you! 🙏 I'm 35 and skating more than I have in about 15 years, just getting all my tricks back, trying to get consistent and continue to progress. This content is the kind of inspiration I need.

I think you are reaching your full potential now. Teaching and inspiring so many people via video

Thanks Ben for sharing that. Our stories are very similar and we are the same age. I have been teaching my kids how to skate recently. We have been having a blast and it has brought us closer together. Your videos have given me motivation to go out and enjoy skating again. Even though I have not gotten many of my tricks back and it hurts like hell now when I fall I am loving it just as much as I did when I was younger.

Im very inspired by your vids. I just knew how to cruice back in the early 90ies. This is my third season on the skateboard. Im born in 1972 and I progress on the board. My friend said the other day he is envious (he is way better than me though) because he just redo trix he knew he dont do new stuff. Everyting is new for me. The other day I managed to carve fs in the pool. Big step for me. And I have landed a few stationary kickflips for the first time at the age of 47. Its never to late and you can progress as long as you are alive.

Sick nollie inward heel. Glad I stuck around for that one.

Love you’re videos, man. You’re the best. Shalom

Thank you so much for sharing your honest story, mate!

Thanks for your videos Ben! I restarted one year ago, my legs at 40 are far away from what they used to be, but even cruising on the beach makes me feel blessed each time. My biggest inspiration? Mike Vallely, his story and his being after all these years. His work on Street Plant and his community, I really, really appreciate him.

Man I appreciate this video so much. Thank you.

Great video, Ben! Love the Inspo.

You’re the man. Recently, I’ve been watching your videos more and more and I actually just subscribed right before watching this one. I’m 33 and just got back on my board about 18 months ago after becoming a first time father and finding my old board in my garage. I hadn’t skated since being a teenager but I’ve really enjoyed getting rolling again. I have found skateparks very close to my home that didn’t even exist the last time I was skating. Your words in this video really made me appreciate the fact that I skateboard because I enjoy it and I really don’t need to be concerned about what skill level I’m at. I would really like to make more time for skating and I’m working on balancing that with my family life and work life. Basically I can consistently Ollie up and down things that are about two curbs high and I can consistently do front side 180’s and keep rolling. I’ve only landed a few kickflips while stationary and the same goes for front shuv’s I’m not really a “commenter” when it comes to KZread videos but I’m gonna come back and let you know when I finally land a solid rolling kickflip. But I also won’t get hung up on the fact that that may never happen. One of the parks near my house is public, free and was even built by California Skateparks, I can spend an hour just cruising around that place, snappin’ a few Ollies and that’s enough to keep me in it. I appreciate these videos and all that you do. Keep em’ coming. Happy New Year.

Since I can't skate I've been watchin a bunch of your videos. Thanks for sharing. I'm past my prime but sometimes it's nice to not through yourself do stairs anymore. Just have fun

The reason why skaters like Mariano are so good and able to make such amazing parts is becasue they are literarly obsessed with it. He says filming video parts is the reason why he wakes up in the morning and I bealive him. Obviously super talented but his drive is something most off us regular skaters will never trully understand.

Last trick so awesome! thanks Ben

just started again after 29 years, at age 43. i am loving your page and it is helping get back to the basic level I was when I quit as a kid.

I've been watching your vids for a few months now. i had no idea you had some struggles with drugs, etc. Props for sharing and overcoming and killing it in your late 30s. I'm 37 and my super productive skating years were age 12 - 16, then kinda same story as you. i can tell i never got as good as you though. i love seeing so many skaters and pros going strong into their 40s and beyond or just making a comeback in general. in the 90s i remember feeling like if someone didn't turn pro by 18 then they never would and at 23 their time was almost up. there is a lot of stuff i really like about skating in this day and age and some not so much, same about skating in the 90s.

It's because of your videos that a 44 year old decided to pick up skating again. Thanks for keeping it real!

I love your videos! Actually found your videos through looking for Ted's old footy (hehe). Seriously though Ted is probably the biggest influence on my skating still to this day. I still own all the North Dvd's and the strangenotes with his section! love the content keep it up dude :)

... Wow. I'm in my mid 20s and just got clean. Picking up skateboarding again. I have a whole new appreciation for your channel having heard this. Thanks so much for sharing. I hope I can land half of the shit you can in my lifetime.

I had a similar experience. I started using in around 2004 and completely stopped skating. I've been clean, working a 12 step program, for about 7 years. In 2016 I rekindled a relationship with an old friend who I used to skate with, and we've been skating together as much as possible ever since.

Good work on getting straight I know it was quite a long time a go know but I’m the same age as you and know many people who still haven’t sorted their stuff out and it actually sad to see. Keep up the vids have beenfinding them quite interesting with the different set ups as when I was a kid and skated thought trucks were trucks and boards were boards, never really put much thought into heights and angles etc and it has helped me set up my my new setups.

Wow!!! Another great message!!!! And by doing just that I think we will be happy wherever we end up!!! Always keep the goal list though... lol

Started skating again with 40 a few months ago after a 11 year break. I am super happy that I did this and find a lot of inspiration in your videos. Thank you.

Yup, you are also my inspiration Ben. 😂 Many thanks! I think that’s one of the great things about getting older, that everything kind of becomes about competing with yourself and personal bests rather than impressing the external world. That’s how my mind works anyway.

hey Ben, I really enjoyed this video. I'm a 35 year old skater who fell out of skateboarding in my 20's due to life circumstances and have only picked it back up in the last 5 years. It can be a hard lesson to learn that the potential I had in my earlier years is gone, but like you said: it's about doing what you love and pushing the limits of what you can do. Keep it up!

Awesome video, thanks Ben!!

Hey man awesome story you shared with us. Thank you. You seem to have made peace with most of that and I think that’s great. Hope you know that you’re a rad skater and a great tradesman ! Keep acquiring new skills and be a great family man ! Also I hope you really forgive yourself for the past. I have made similar mistakes with alcohol. And one thing I still have a hard time doing is forgiving myself. There is a great song by The Faces. It’s called Oh la la. Give it a listen and have the lyrics handy. It’s one of my favorite tracks of all time because the message is so true. All the best to you and your family Ben.

Your start in skating is EXACTLY the same as mine was. I stopped it all, skating included at about 21/22. Picked it up again last month (at 27) and today I’ve just had the best session I’ve had in years. Got the deck I always wanted (Creature) and it’s all just clicked. So many old tricks came back and a few new ones seem doable. This time I’m not stopping until my body says it’s time

You're an inspiration! Great video.

I think out of all the most polite skateboarders out here you're #1

Thank you for share . Love you dude.

Nice one Ben! Your story is so similar to mine. Im 37 now and skate when I can between school runs etc. Thanks for all the tips.

I needed to see this. You’re the man👍🏼

Love the honesty in this video

My biggest regret is not learning nollie and switch when I was younger. Now getting back into skateboarding at 38 I have been focusing on nollie and switch skating.

Truthfully alot of us have made those same shitty mistakes, i wish i wouldve stayed off the bs, and skated more and learned that later than Id like to admit, truth is we are here now and we still skate and its a positive factor and will always be, props to u for being real

I do that Meloncholy thing a lot being older nowadays and so thanks for the inspo even though I'm late to watching this vid! It was Much needed advice

That's inspiring. I'm never going to catch up. I'm relearning and I'm old. So as long as I'm just progressing little by little, I'm happy. And yes, tomorrow is going to be my best session yet

Awesome video! Your humble and honest talk is really inspiring! Congratulations on four children! Can you show how you done this lovely ledge?

Damn man it really surprised me when you said you were into drugs in the worst way I would have never thought that ab you but it gives me a whole new respect about you. Glad you found the right path to follow man stay up !

Hey Ben, could you make a short clip about how this ledge is built? It looks super fun. Did you just build a frame and glued the marble ontop?

@sobeysbag

5 жыл бұрын

And where we could find that kind of marble? I want to make a ledge like this so badly.

@rilili

5 жыл бұрын

@@sobeysbag any kind of marble but marble be spensive

Pure wisdom!

As an older skater.. I know exactly how you feel. it's totally normal.. keep it up Ben!

Great message. I started skateboarding at 43yo. I'm now 48yo and I have already a bag of tricks in mini-ramps and bowls, not skateboarding that often. It's never too late to start. If you're not fit, or your potential is less than average, just take it slower, but proceed with it. I don't have flat-ground tricks, but my ollies are almost there (I'm missing a decent levelling of the board with the front foot sweep).

I quit for 7 years and and started skating again last year after rewatching Almost Round 3. I'm having so much fun skating and wish I never quit. I quit because I shattered my ankle bones and was too scared to skate again. Watching your videos is really inspiring because i'm pushing closer and closer to reaching that big 30. Thanks, Ben, for great videos.

I regret being with the guys who took me away from skateboarding, just like you did i went from alcohol to trying out different kinds of drugs and the enjoyment is super quick but the time that i’ve lost was way too long. It took me 11yrs to ride back on a board again, and you’ve been an important piece out of it, i never thought that i could still land the tricks which am nailing before thanks to you, you are such a motivation to anyone keep inspiring people like me. One thing is for sure i will never step off my board again, am gonna ride as long as i can! More power here from Philippines 😁

I'm 32 and you're inspiring me. Glad to see that you were able to get out of addiction

I feel ya. It was almost a 15 year break in skating for me, although I was/still am not as talented as you are, but I am trying to push myself now and keep learning new things, even as I push 40. Thanks for your videos. BTW, one of the pictures you showed in one of your first videos was a photo (for some reason) that has been ingrained in my mind from a Thrasher I got when I first started skating in 1996. You were tweaking your board forward a little and I was trying to figure out how your feet were doing what they were doing as you were going over the bar.

Thank you for this.

Totally identify. First got sober at 23,was a straight up punk as a kid.

I met your brother with Ben Chibber when Monke was pretty new. I had a little skate shop in Fernwood square Victoria. Ben your bro and a few others from the monke team came and dropped off some merch a couple of times. Great guys and a ton of talent . I'm 48 have 3 kids, had my share of parties and Still skate a bit. +++. No regrets. Skateboarding is only one great thing in my life.✌️

Now I just need a mobile granite ledge for my minivan. Love the mobile ledge... good session... and long live the minivan;)

Super-good stuff over the blocks. Josh Kalis also has a great epicly latered.

Guys part in pretty sweet made me tear up. The song and seeing him and Koston share a part was amazing.

You inspired me. In my mid 30's, i still wanna skate.

I've recently been going through the same comparison phase with guitar players who are my age or younger and can shred better than I ever think I could. It just takes moving forward and keeping focused on your biggest competitor-yourself.

Hey! I am writing this just to say that I am amazed by you! I am 20 y.o. now and I am skating for a few years but man, I feel everything you say like a lifetip. Becouse of watching how good you are I developed in myself a little feeling that one day I can be good no matter that today I still can't do tre and something bigger than a 6 stair seems scary. Also I stopped smoking after 4 years and started training to focus on skateboarding fully. So summing this mess up I just want to thank you for being a motivation to push myself to the limits and watch my potential in real life happening. Also my biggest inspiration recently became Joslin becouse his just 2 years older and simply can do anything.