Muted for Spamming Voice Lines [OUTDATED]
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UPDATE: With the arrival of Season 3, some information in this video has changed. Here are my current findings:
• 1:31 Using a voice line now increments the mute timer by 5 seconds.
• 1:40 The mute threshold is now 10 seconds.
• The above information means the new optimal spam cycle is [use 3 voice lines, wait 15 seconds, repeat]
• 1:52 Using a voice line while muted will no longer extend the mute timer (in most circumstances; if you constantly spam the voice line key, a small delay is added).
• 2:22 The mute ramp-up now occurs at around 18 voice lines. The exact scaling is still unknown since it would take an inordinately long time to figure out, sorry.
If you want to verify these findings or experiment further, here is my script:
Workshop Code: 5Z3V9F
overpy script: pastebin.com/raw/0RLX5jin
TIMESTAMPS:
• 0:00 Introduction
• 0:57 Muting Mechanics
• 3:30 The Future
REFERENCES:
• blizz_winter's comment - / j4xc2v4
• TF2 Crab Spy - • TF2 Crab Spy
MUSIC:
• Super Monkey Ball - Monkey Target
ME:
• Twitch - / marblr
• Twitter - / marblrr
Footage captured on game versions 2.2.1.1.109168 and 2.2.1.1.109670
Пікірлер: 887
UPDATE: Season 3 included some changes to these mechanics. I have added my findings to the description, but here is the summary: Using a voice line adds 5 seconds to the mute timer (down from 8), and the mute threshold is now 10 seconds (down from 16). This means the new optimal spam timing is [use 3 voice lines, wait 15 seconds, repeat]. However, the mute duration still ramps up; it just happens after about 18 voice lines now (up from 12). So while this system is significantly more generous, you still cannot spam indefinitely.
@gloomy935
Жыл бұрын
Bóris sends you hugs
@Torbjorn.
Жыл бұрын
Hmph developers alvays vanting you to do the hard vork.
@TikkaQrow
Жыл бұрын
It's just another fun thing blizz took away because some sweaty top rank bum didn't like it There's a reason people are fond of ow1 when it was new, before it was gutted for esports.
@HateThyKing
Жыл бұрын
@@TikkaQrow I guarantee they took it away was because THEY didn't like it. Blizzard has weak mental towards 'toxic' behavior.
@mirabletest
Жыл бұрын
@@TikkaQrow idk i play the game without music and hearing someone voice spam makes me want to punch him in the face (or not heal if i'm a supp)
I can finally spam Baptiste's "Behind you! AH!" voice line more efficiently now
@pixelmanns2332
Жыл бұрын
Amazing voice line
@iSuckAtGamesGG
Жыл бұрын
the characters actually tell u if they see an enemy behind u so that legit got me 1 time
@namedless
Жыл бұрын
Some dude fr gave me a heart attack with that
@Keyourasa
Жыл бұрын
or the legendary "oh thank you baptist" ohhhh no problem
@Yorai1212
Жыл бұрын
Actually got scared when I heard a Baptiste say that.
hi this took a long time because I spent last week moving. should be back on schedule now :)
@SynergyGaming112
Жыл бұрын
Coolio, take all the time you need, your videos are all high quality!
@originalpadoru
Жыл бұрын
as long as youre fine, were fine :)
@slim3788
Жыл бұрын
I like the thumbnail. 👍 Always the Highest quality content.
@axi9725
Жыл бұрын
:)
@BENNY-vx8fw
Жыл бұрын
day 2 of asking for a video about every character that can kill thru transcendence
When our doomfist gets right up in my face in spawn and spams “HOT COCO. HOT COCO. HOT COCO.” before walking off, I see that as the highlight of the match.
@Zachebi
Жыл бұрын
Bro, i love making doom say “i didnt ask for your…hot cocoa? Fine i’ll have some”
@xdkillfor34akathetroll30
Жыл бұрын
@@Zachebi I'm going to make you... hot cocoa? and Step into (the)... hot cocoa? are my favs
@Skynet5885
Жыл бұрын
@@xdkillfor34akathetroll30 I'm going to make you-Hot cocoa?-Go and sit down.
@LtKrau
Жыл бұрын
"I've killed someone for piece of cake." -Streetpig
@darnit1944
Жыл бұрын
My favorite is "I will eat more... HOT COCOA??? Fine, i'll have some"
Some Blizzard employee probably got annoyed at their workmates spamming voice lines so they secretly put something in so they can't do it very often but didnt tell anyone.
@yeti4269
Жыл бұрын
I just imagine that someone was a big fan of overwatch, and hated doomfist's chivalry line so much that they applied to work on the game, just to implement the change.
@bloodyidit4506
Жыл бұрын
@@yeti4269 fans running the asylum always make the worst changes.
@TheBussyAnnihilator
Жыл бұрын
Classic panzy-ass dev team.
@BlueGreyWolf
Жыл бұрын
Or they got beaten by a player and that player used a voice line and that made them so angry that they convince the dev team to implement this mute rule to voice line.
@0ffaI
Жыл бұрын
@@PastPositive You can mute them
Honestly, rather then this interesting yet convoluted system they made up to help deal with voice line spam. They could just add an ingame option to either allow, restrict (like the current system), or flat out remove the ability to hear voiceline spam from others. It might take more time, but it will be a good middle ground for everyone as there are players who actually enjoy the silly voiceline spam.
@Wildwildmint
Жыл бұрын
It's the only reason I play the game tbh
@sansidotti
Жыл бұрын
Imagine blizzard actually doing something great for the players lmao
@Kellexyz
Жыл бұрын
inb4 they put muted as default like private profile
@data4385
Жыл бұрын
Same goes for the rank number
@queueeeee9000
Жыл бұрын
You can. You just have to "Squelch" the person that's spamming. It's under "Mute"
even just cataloging these things I feel is very important, let's us slowly decipher what's going on in the back-end of Overwatch and it's helped me reason behind certain changes like the Tracer rewinding without gaining hp after being damaged. I'll just say the scenario for those that like to dissect these things as well. Be tracer > Take damage > receive healing > Recall back before you took damage > Will you still be damaged or will you be full health GL hunting fellas :D
@Hietakissa
Жыл бұрын
@Luigi- it's actually bugged so it will negate even healing. I can't remember exactly how it works but that's the jist of it
@sninctbur3726
Жыл бұрын
@Luigi- The latter case would be hilarious. Imagine ressing a Tracer and she just says “no thanks”
@immartyfromowteam8064
Жыл бұрын
I think it's bugged rn. You are a Tracer at full HP and get meleed (-30) leaving you at 120HP. You grab a healthpack and are now back to full HP. CURRENTLY, if you recall after a few seconds you'll be back to 130 HP. It was never like this and although it technically makes sense it's most likely a bug. As mentioned above Recall doesn't remove HP so it is a bug.
@LoudWaffle
Жыл бұрын
The Tracer thing is not bugged, and Luigi- is right that it does not remove HP. How it works is very simple: when you press rewind, the game checks your current HP, and your HP from exactly 3 seconds ago. It then sets your HP to whichever of those two values is higher. People think it's a bug because you have to be damaged at the "3 second" mark, get healed, then take damage again, THEN press rewind. People wrongly assume that rewind checks their health over the entire course of 3 seconds - it simply doesn't. When using rewind the game is entirely blind to however high your HP was in the 3 seconds between those two HP-checks. It is intentionally coded to work this way, and always has been like this since launch. Through happenstance, a bunch of people are just hearing about it now and the rumour is being carried along with it that it's a bug. I've heard countless long-time Tracer mains confirm that it's always worked like this.
@BIGAMBERFAN
Жыл бұрын
@@LoudWaffle there seems to be a pretty special problem among overwatch players of not understanding their own game, even at the highest ranks. i’m relatively new to the game, and coming from a background of other competitive games, ive been really surprised to see how even top 500 level players seem to be clueless about so many mechanics and interactions of the game. it’s really weird. the only other game i’ve played where the community has this problem is nba 2k, where it’s debatably even worse than it is in overwatch
"But after being locked in a room with Doomfist for several days, here's what i've found" im rolling on the floor from laughter
@sneakin3274
Жыл бұрын
are you insane by any chance?
@Akhen.
Жыл бұрын
@@sneakin3274 yes i am. Do you want a cheeseburger good sir?
@zocabeto3631
Жыл бұрын
@cewla3348
Жыл бұрын
@@zocabeto3631 me when
@HershelLetMeTellYouSomething
Жыл бұрын
it could not be that funny bro
Honestly, ow voice lines are the best, in my opinion spamming doomfist is good manners. Thanks for helping me optimize my spamming.
@TheNerd
Жыл бұрын
You should be imprissoned.
@Ryukomytoy
Жыл бұрын
It's not even his best voice line.
@MZ-iu9yh
Жыл бұрын
hot cocoa... fiiiiine ill have some
@TheRealBatabii
Жыл бұрын
Why the hell did doomfist player spam that specific voice line? It's not even funny
@conceptualization.6617
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealBatabii and dey say
Even when I'm tilted voice line spam from the guy who just killed me still makes me laugh. Wtf Blizzard?
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Жыл бұрын
@@PastPositive you can just mute them
@gengar2272
Жыл бұрын
@@PastPositive Someone call the whambulance
@ZerohFault
Жыл бұрын
@@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee why? the game muted them for me. no need to worry about annoying voice line spam 😅
@_narrows
Жыл бұрын
@@PastPositive why do you hate fun
@sansidotti
Жыл бұрын
@@PastPositive 🤓 its so unfun when other people are having fun
junkrat’s voiceline for “Ahhh it’s snowing” i hate it because it can be spammed
thanks for putting the tf2 spycrab, that game will always have a special place in my heart.
@Drojah
Жыл бұрын
New update got confirmed! Go play tf2 again! It is still alive.
@alfredogonzalez9420
Жыл бұрын
@@Drojah I saw the news and felt like a fever dream lol, my prayers were answered, thanks daddy Gaben 🙏
@Drojah
Жыл бұрын
@alfredogonzalez9420 the "attention gamers. tf2 will never be updated" bots are out in full force. Coping hella hard. TF2 WILL NEVER DIE!
Crouching at the same time as using the voice line is a really good visual cue. That was really clever
I remember the first time they changed voice line spam. It used to be 4 voice lines on a single short cooldown but after the comms wheel update it got cut to 3 individual and longer cooldowns. I wish we could get the original back that shit was so funny
@oi_bruv
Жыл бұрын
You seem nice, I'd hate to- Come on! Your eyes- Mada mada!
@ember4303
Жыл бұрын
I still remember having a toxic soldier on our team in no limits, so we all switched to soldier and spammed "attack the objective" till the guy left. Good times
@queefedworm
Жыл бұрын
Changing heroes reset that timer, I had alot of fun with it
I love your content. I can’t imagine the time it would take to trial and error to figure all that out. Keep it up!
@ccricers
Жыл бұрын
As Torbjorn would say, "Hard work pays BINGO!"
This can be used as an exploit also. You can intentionally spam a voice line to be muted this will also mute the voice line ultimate alert so the enemy is caught off guard more. Confirmed with "Bob do something!" on Ash.
@sidneyrobinson18
Жыл бұрын
Oh are you serious? This is one instance where exploiting would be a good idea since it'll hopefully tell Blizzard to fuck off with this whole system they've made
@mateuszzielinski2166
Жыл бұрын
Wait actually? Thats gotta be a bug
@apple-de8tx
Жыл бұрын
Silent ults???? Wtf????
@OneBiasedOpinion
Жыл бұрын
OH? Now _that_ is interesting. >:)
@allan_mjolnir
Жыл бұрын
I friend got ulted by an orisa yesterday because I didn’t hear the voice line but my subtitles mentioned it, wasn’t really paying attention.
My favorite spam is on Brigitte, its "Scandinavian style? No, it has to be/Scandinavian style? No, it has to be/Scandinavian..." the best part is, the loop time is long enough that the game doesn't stop you from spamming it (except for other players, i guess)
@beepfd
Жыл бұрын
also Bastion's Jingle Bells voiceline is just long enough where you can constantly replay the first 2 seconds in a near perfect loop
@bunnyflop3126
Жыл бұрын
I spam "I've got a present for you" while running at the enemy 😭
Ana's "in the desert" voiceline is the perfect length to infinitely spam voice lines and never get muted. i spent an entire comp match spamming it and it annoyed the enemy to the point where they all squelched my comms. its ameizing
@swancrunch
Жыл бұрын
or hog's laugh
@illybee3
Жыл бұрын
bastion's jingle bells voice line is perfect for this too
@quinshore
Жыл бұрын
honor justice reinhardt and gravity of the situation for sigma are amazing too
My Torbjörn voiceline wheel is: "Hehe, you should try my meatballs" "Hear me baby, hold it together" "Too hot for you?" "There's more where that came from"
@Kanashi_9
Жыл бұрын
oh my lain, hahahahaha thats hilarious!
@KOMISSARIAT
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Toblerone line has got to be "I SMELL TROUBLE BREWING" it's gotten tot he point where my friends get a stroke when they hear it in the distance during a pre-game deathmatch.
@generalkenobi2088
Жыл бұрын
“Mind the beard”
@Rickfernello
Жыл бұрын
My reaper voice lines: What's my candy? It's in the refrigerator. Revenge, is -- Pathetic.
@artezac
Жыл бұрын
I have that exactly but the 4th one is instead bingo
Voice line spam has improved my game alot for some reason
They always take the lazy route. Instead of giving people the option to just mute voice lines with one key, they shadow ban them...
@migolo1415
Жыл бұрын
man if anything this is the opposite of the lazy route. they went outta their way to make this whole muting system when they could've just added a personal toggle for voicelines and called it a day
@ghostofuchiha3807
Жыл бұрын
@@migolo1415 you are trolling, right? You can not be that dumb.
@delluminatis
Жыл бұрын
what they did is what many devs seem to unfortunately do: remove control from user and not tell tell them what they are doing, while assuming and homogenizing what users want to do it for them without permission or asking or any choice whatsoever software is devolving
I always spam "knock knock" on doomfist. The laugh at the end is glorious.
I miss hearing "AND THEY SAY" "YA DIPSTICK" "PIECE OF CAKE" "HARD WORK PAYS OFF" and "WAIT 'TILL YOU SEE ME ON MY BIKE" repeatedly over and over again Even better if your team consists or Doom, Junk, Torb, Mercy and Kiriko Best spam ever
@MariaMoz
Жыл бұрын
I miss the spamming contests with my mirror on the other team.
@fifasims1996
Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer, "hear me baby, hold together"
@cartonofmork690
Жыл бұрын
YA CANT SCARE ME, I AAAAH-YA CANT SCARE ME, I AAAAAH
@mustardcookie864
Жыл бұрын
i miss hearing "YOU CAN'T SCARE ME" over and over again while the junk just throws his balls at the enemy and every kill he gets just ends with a scream
@artezac
Жыл бұрын
UGGGHHHHHH IT'S SNOWINGGGGGG
and dey say, and dey say, and dey say x99
I've found that the most effective way to spam voice lines, is to choose the longest one possible. That way you can min/max your noise-to-silence ratio, and get the most out of your voice lines before you get muted
@queefedworm
Жыл бұрын
Why is it so warm?
@ventu2295
Жыл бұрын
Bastions beep boops work best for this strategy, you can play all game with 1 or 2 secs of silence
my friends love spamming DVA’s “winky face” and “happy halloween” and tracers “its called a marathon, but when im done with it, it’ll be a TRACER-thon” 😭😭😭 its very silly but i love it
Hearing voice line spamming never fails to make me smile :) even from the enemy team, I love it
AND DEY SAY
I’m really glad your channel exists
I get pumped for all the Overwatch science you do! I immediately watch your videos whenever there is a new one!
Thank you so much for covering this! I play mostly custom games, and this mute system has made voice lines less fun. I'm glad they are working on it!
will you do a video about the voice lines once season 3 rolls out? so we know
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
unless it is a completely radical change, I will add updated info in the description. I suspect there will only be number tweaks.
@antisal4192
Жыл бұрын
@@Marblr I think so too, but it would be nice to know the numbers still. would you add the numbers in the description?
We are in season 3 now and the voice line spam has elevated considerably when I was playing some assault maps in arcade today. Love to hear it!
your videos go deep in some topics very small. I love it
The way you present this information and the editing is just top notch. I wish people would hire you to make trainings for them on more things.
I think you're one of the best overwatch KZreadrs there are and is one of the reasons keeping me interested in this game. Wish you get huge someday and everybody can appreciate this level of video quality.
@SimoneBellomonte
Жыл бұрын
Pfp Sauce (Artist)? 🗿
@defaultprofilepictureguy2526
Жыл бұрын
@@SimoneBellomonte really?
So great to know what's happening behind it, even tho it'll change in a few days, at least I know it's not a permanent mute and I can understand how they are changing the system, otherwise I just wouldn't understand what they are doing. Awesome work, as always :)
Wow, was wondering if youd posted recently just earlier today! Grats on the move man thanks for the content :)
I was wondering why I don't hear spammers like I used to :/ I'm a veteran voice line spammer myself, and the best voice line in the game in my opinion is Hanzo's "duty is the only destiny I know", but it's best to spam it like this "duty, duty, duty is the only destiny I know".
Meanwhile Blizzard's line is never muted, Reaper, please : "BUY, BUY, BUUUY"
You won't have to wait long for thr workshop to come back since it's confirmed by the devs that it's returning in season 3. I'm excited!
I loved hearing voice line spam, even though I didn't do it myself. This is a terrible update.
You always do the great job! Thanks!
Fun fact, Mercy and Hog share the same voice line "keeping my eye on you"
@inactiveusertypeofaccount181
Жыл бұрын
piece of cake as well
I did some testing with a friend when this was first discovered and an extra thing is that I'm pretty sure using different voicelines sets seperate timers (tho they all get blocked by the same mute) meaning you should be able to cycle through and not hit a mute.
Blizzard: Oh a funny and harmless mechanic that players could just mute by themselves? No! We must mute it ourselves!!
Awesome edits and super fun information!! Thank you!!!!!
This is so sad we can't spam now :,(
This was a very interesting video. Your explanations are so good
Torb: "There's no prize for coming!" "There's no prize for coming!" "There's no prize for coming!"
Could this system prevent ultimate voicelines from being heard? It's a pretty common complaint, though this has been a complaint since even Overwatch 1 days, that seemingly at random times ultimate voicelines will just not play or be heard by people.
@PunkZombie1300
Жыл бұрын
I don't think so, since voicelines/comms (like ult status and hello/thank you) are separate from ult lines and the normal character chatter. Typically an ult line is cancelled when the character ulting gets stunned/killed right after using it.
I love this channel sm
The Overwatch team noticed there was still some fun left in the game so they had to make sure to stealthily eradicate it.
at this point, i live for your content
Thanks for the awesome content!
Thank you Marblr! With this knowledge i shall now become Top 500 in Voiceline spamming!
"Black's...Black's...Black's...Black's...Black's...Black's...Black's...Black's...Black's..."
Thanks for testing this, good stuff
Phew at least I can still combo Rein's "Come here" "Bring me another" and "Beer"
Blizzard on their way to remove anything fun from the game
@WillemDafoeOfficial
Жыл бұрын
It's not fun, it's annoying
@alexander2019.
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes being annoying is fun
@yata967
Жыл бұрын
@@WillemDafoeOfficial "its not fun its annoying" 🤓
@WillemDafoeOfficial
Жыл бұрын
@@yata967 you are fatherless.
@yata967
Жыл бұрын
@@WillemDafoeOfficial don't judge everyone by yourself
I can remember in ow1, Ana’s “in the desert” (not sure exactly what it’s called) voice line was long enough that you could say it and by the time it finished your mute timer had got to zero. You could basically chain the voice line throughout the whole match
And dey say...hard work pays off. Great video!
Watching doomfists spamming and they say and they say and they say while beating the heck out of enemy team was the funniest thing in comp I can't believe that they kinda banned it 😭
My man is finally done cooking and it's good!
I remember back when there was basically no spam limit and everyone in season 1 Lucioball would spam his jackpot emote over and over. Those were good times
You shoulda ended the video with "Did you know only a small percentage of people who wa- Did you know only a small percen- Did you know only a small percentage of people who watch these videos are subscribed?" :3
i like ur voice. subbed
I STG, Genji, say "I need healing" one more time...
this mechanic is more fleshed out than the balance patches
I think a really interesting video can be made regarding the calculations the game uses to determine the damage dealt to the breakable panels in the spawn ships. Each hero's weapons seem to do completely unjustified damage to the panels. Mcree needs to shoot it multiple times whereas lucio can one shot them. Why not just give the panels a hidden health bar and use the hero's base damage to calculate it?
Intresting, very cool video
spamming voice lines is the purpose of other people hearing you. we dont care if we hear it ourselves the point was for others to hear it. that's like equipping a skin but only you can see it and everyone else sees you as the default.
7 years of the game existence and I still don't know what "they say".
Voice line spam between Reins is courtesy as well as taunting. If I see two Reins not spamming at each other, it's because they're lvl1 endorsements and typing insults in match chat. Like Tbagging, it's a contextual language that makes the game more fun and social. If the enemy Junkrat doesn't respond to my DIPSTICK, you can assume he's lvl1 endorsement and raging at his team.
"That heavy is a Sentry **laughs** " -TF2 demoman
Thank you for telling me spamming voicelines combos is still somewhat possible
Thank you my good man, I would very much dislike if I couldn’t tell my fellow teammates that I’m going to make them hot cocoa.
Nice tie in with the on fire mechanic
A Tipp not many players now is if someone annoys you with voice line spamming or even with the i need healing command you can just squelch their Chat just go to their profile and click the squelch icon after this the player is muted and you can’t hear a single thing from them 🎉
Marblr my good bro, could you do a healing comparison video with the new Mercy tomorrow?
Why don’t they just add this as an option for people who get too annoyed by spam and then everyone else can keep it
In tf2 voice lines are encouraged to be spammed, just hop on hightower
Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps we Perhaps we only Perhaps we only exist Perhaps we only exist in the memory of Perhaps Perhaps we only exist in the memory of a person now gone.
Great video
Reinhardt's "catch phrase!" line is the only reason I play him
You are a lifesaver
I get around this just by spamming “yes” voice line with hog.
@queefedworm
Жыл бұрын
Just spam 3 2 1 for maximum annoyance
@queefedworm
Жыл бұрын
It's a ping too so it's different
marblr is just like "shounic" tf2 guy best kind of content luv u marblr
Blizzard: “We can’t allow our players to have fun.”
Is that monkey ball target mode music in the background? A man of culture I see.
This is like if Fortnight muted the dances... amazing live service you got here ActiBlizz
Dang, the voice line spam meta is changing huh.
My favourite examples of these is the videos from back in the day when DF was new. Can't remember the name of the artist or video, but Doomfist said "Go and sit down" loads and it was to a beat. Truly a genuine bop
*you ever get that feeling of deja vu?*
The fact that any dev time got spent on this change is surprising, honestly. Were there really enough complaints about voice line spam that it became a priority?
finally, "BIRDS OF A FEATHER GET HEALED TOGETHER" will never be silenced
I remember spamming sergeant heart's dialogues from fullmetal jacket in a custom wolfenstein enemy territory server. Good times
Funny April fools idea for Blizzard - if you spam your voiceline too many times you explode
I remember coming up with voice line combos where I could get the heros to say funnier things... I don't recall any of them because, other than your channel, I purged OW and all of Blizzard's digital ecosystem from my life after *the chung incident.* It's a sobering thought to realize I may have been the only one hearing those mashedlines, though... Oof.
@billcipher1756
Жыл бұрын
this is something only put into effect with the release of ow2 definitely wasn't a part of ow1
@karr1265
Жыл бұрын
My favorite was genjis: you seem nice id hate to/come on/ your eyes
"A few days" My poor man, A few hours.