Killfeed Assists [OUTDATED]
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The killfeed in Overwatch has a few quirks when it comes to displaying assists. I go over the methods of earning assists, how they are ordered, and a few bugs with this system.
CORRECTION: Doomfist and Ashe can earn assists under specific conditions, as covered in this video: • [CORRECTION] Doomfist ...
UPDATE: The launch of Overwatch 2 has allowed more heroes to earn killfeed assists, meaning this video is no longer an all-inclusive list.
TIMESTAMPS:
• 0:00 Introduction
• 0:50 Buff Assists
• 2:25 Debuff Assists
• 5:38 D.Va's Bugged Assist
• 6:21 How Assists Are Sorted
• 10:34 Heroes That Cannot Get Assists
MUSIC:
• Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
• Blinx: The Time Sweeper
• Who Wants to Be a Millionaire
• Super Mario 64
LINKS:
• Twitch - / marblr
• Twitter - / marblrr
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I'd love to see a video of you breaking down how POTG is precisely determined.
@sugarkrisp5199
Жыл бұрын
im pretty sure its just which ever player gained the most fire points within a 7 second window. certain special types of potgs like "sharpshooter" "shutdown" and "lifesaver" also make you more likely to get potg. but im not sure how these are weighed
@S0UPIE
Жыл бұрын
it is a system i dont think even blizzard knows how it behaves. for example, sprays increes your chance of geting potg
@weeyum99
Жыл бұрын
@@sugarkrisp5199 all i know is that environmental kills are HIGHLY weighted
@dakota6050
Жыл бұрын
@@S0UPIE Also emotes. I used to play a freeze tag custom game with no killing in workshop and potg would always be some random person emoting
@boopedwards8943
Жыл бұрын
@@S0UPIE I also believe damage is highly weighted as if you kill a beat drop as sombra and the enemy team dies no matter what the sombra will get potg
After over 6 years of playing I somehow still assumed that damage assists are a thing but clearly not. The assist logic is surprisingly basic.
I'm always impressed by how polished these videos are. I don't know how you get visual representations that look *just* like the game, but it'll always be cool as hell.
@nebulous9280
Жыл бұрын
Best bet is that he's using some kind of workshop effect to get a sort of green screen that's easy to work with as a background. Could be wrong tho.
@ricky5135
Жыл бұрын
@@nebulous9280 you have literally a map in custom games that's a giant green screen
@robertokraj
Жыл бұрын
@@nebulous9280 There is a special map in game called Workshop Green Screen which as you could guess is completely green haha, that's probably how.
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
thanks, I remake the game's UI in after effects since there's more flexibility with animating them that way.
@thechknnuggetgod1709
Жыл бұрын
I never realized some heroes don’t make it to the assist part of the kill feed
You've become one of the most popular overwatch youtubers in less than 6 months, that is wild. High quality content really does pay off innit.
@CowPat101
Жыл бұрын
This channel is a perfect representation of you don’t need subscribers to get views if the quality of the video is good.
@skyline07355
Жыл бұрын
hes just the youtuber ive been looking for, for a long time
@RochRich.
Жыл бұрын
I thought this was the same guy who talked about how the first person animations represented their respective hero in a video I watched ages ago
@justfriccoff3363
Жыл бұрын
He really hasn't but ok
@Wokeee
Жыл бұрын
@@justfriccoff3363 Literally has
That tip for Zens achievement is a blessing lol
@musicstuff6310
Жыл бұрын
Just know that the achievement is bugged or not worded correctly and you have to get at least one kill and assist for it to pop. So his death blossom example is incorrect. Youd need to snipe a kill with zen to get it
@basicbacon5951
Жыл бұрын
@@musicstuff6310 oh really? Well still easier than how I was trying to do it originally
@musicstuff6310
Жыл бұрын
@@basicbacon5951 yea i got all the achievements and that was one of the last few i had to get that i had sworn id already gotten xD. Found out why after some googling. If you want a tip, ive gotten it on kings row with a random mei comp on second point. Discord the blizzard targets xD
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
@@musicstuff6310 that is disappointing if true. unfortunately I can't verify what the true requirement for the achievement is, since testing it is impractical for many reasons. but since discussion about rapid discord being bugged has been ongoing for 7 years, I am inclined to believe that something about the description is wrong.
@musicstuff6310
Жыл бұрын
@@Marblr yea it sucks because you can pop off and get all 4 kills and get punished for doing too well
Marblr. The videos, keep 'em coming. ty
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
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i love the fact that 76 just keeps getting killed by reaper like he owes him way too much money to comprehend
@zekisehasabr2622
Жыл бұрын
jack, it's been 5 years you still owe me 16 dollars
Wow, the D.Va one caught me by surprise. Me and my friend had been trying to figure it out for a while but now we have the answer! Thank you
I noticed that the Doomfist punch knockback doesn't register as an assist but what about when the enemy hits the wall from the punch? Isn't that a stun?
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
that does result in a stun, but it does not count.
@Astrometeor
Жыл бұрын
@@Marblr what about when they're killed when still moving from the punch.
@PigeonOvO
Жыл бұрын
@@Marblr I think I have seen doom as in assist before.. I think it was in OW2 .. he got some slow stuff so that might have been it
@weejonnyshaft8339
Жыл бұрын
Doomfist can get an assist if it is a counter pin so you can only get it on brig, rein or another doom
@thomsasus
Жыл бұрын
@@weejonnyshaft8339 that might be true. Sounds like it should count.
Do you think you can make a video on how play of the game is determined? Along with special types of potg like sharpshooter, shutdown, and lifesaver? That would be great. Also your videos are amazing! Keep it up!
@Ross516
Жыл бұрын
If it helps, I believe it's gaining the largest amount of fire in the shortest amount of time, but I agree that a video on it would be great
@Acrophobia-X
Жыл бұрын
This seems like a really good idea!
@ClaraBennett
Жыл бұрын
Do shutdown and lifesaver still exist? I swear I haven’t seen any special PotG types other than sharpshooter in years.
@tyvintandy9960
Жыл бұрын
@@ClaraBennett they still exist, but it's incredibly rare. That's why I want to know how these special potgs are determined.
@RojoSostenido
Жыл бұрын
i'd love to see this too, there was a time when i got POTG with moira on almost every quick play, i think 2 years ago, but now it's almost impossible, the sure have changed something
Looks like the killfeed assists have changed a lot in OW2. It’ll probably take some time for things to settle, but I’d love to see an updated version of this video sometime!
i'm suprised that amped speed boost doesn't count towards assists, as it is used as an offensive push manoeuvre under most circumstances. having Lucio gain assists for this would definitely make him seem more impactful and make OWL a little cleaner to watch
@Voxovan
Жыл бұрын
IIRC, if a speed boosted teammate kills an enemy, it does count as an assist in your stats as Lucio, it just doesn't show up in the killfeed as an assist. Same with Widow and Hanzo wallhacks.
@musicstuff6310
Жыл бұрын
@@Voxovan yea lucio has defensive assists and offensive assists. I always assumed that it had something to do with amp heals for defensive and amp speed for offensive
I've seen doomfist get assist credit if he counter charges (ie, cancelling a rein charge or shield bash, Reinhardt also benefits from this)
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
I will have to double check this and issue a correction if it's true. I know that regular charges/pins/punches do not result in killfeed assists, but I did not consider countercharges.
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
after doing some testing, I've found that Doomfist does not get a killfeed assist when countercharging Rein, Brig, or another Doomfist. but he _does_ get an assist when counter-charging Bob during his deployment. thanks for the comment, I will update the description EDIT: ok ignore this comment. after testing this a lot further, counter-charge assists have a very unique quirk. I will be making a video addressing this shortly.
@ananodragon4981
Жыл бұрын
@@Marblr I swear to God I've gotten assist credit for counterpinning a rein as doom before he dies Upon further testing, I am proved correct
@AeonCDG
Жыл бұрын
@@Marblr I do believe that the timer for counter charging only lasts as long as they are knocked over, though I haven't done any personal testing
Something funny I noticed is that Brig is rapidly swapping between her LOD models at 7:03 after the shield bash. I love your videos btw!
This guy always knows how to pick topics we all thought about but never actually dug into. Amazing video as always!! I got the sequences wrong :( i thought the damage from the reinhardt will restart mercy's timer but only mercy boosted damage restarts the timer.
@TheMacco26
Жыл бұрын
I made the same assumption, because I thought the second dmg boosted rocket came within the 5" threshold from the first. If I got this lesson correctly.
I’ve seen in my own game where a Wrecking Ball earned 3 kill assists when we died to flux mines combo. I’m not sure how exactly it worked but everyone in The lobby was super confused as well
this OW content is beyond everything we had before! I freaking love it! So many questions I had in the past got explained here! So good! Cant wait for you to cover OW2 stuff!
I wonder if the “logic” behind those characters not getting assists is that they “shouldn’t” be getting them. Meaning, the purpose of Lucio is to support, so it counts as an assist to encourage that behavior, as well as validate them in the statistics. Meanwhile Phara’s is supposed to vet elims herself, so she doesn’t need to be rewarded for assists. If that’s true, they should update Doomfist in OW2 to now show assists, because his focus as a character has shifted to tanking rather than killing
@emergency.jergens
Жыл бұрын
Symmetra was a support and her turrets never gave assists so there might be a “who cares” factor
@sircobalt5099
Жыл бұрын
My question is why doesn't Brig's whipshot count then? It's functionally very similar to Lucio on a support by that logic
@barroslucasc
Жыл бұрын
@@emergency.jergens I think the assists were added to the game after she became a DPS, but I could be wrong. Edit: just checked and I'm completely wrong. She became a DPS on June 26, 2018 and the kill feed assists were added on May 23, 2017
@Michaela_ZC
Жыл бұрын
@@sircobalt5099 with that you have to remember that Overwatch is made by lots of people after a long period of time. It’s very likely that whoever programmed Lucio’s boop was different than the person who programmed Brig’s, or that the team as a whole changed their philosophy on what counts as an assist over time
Your content is very similar shounic. He basically does what you do-explaining game mechanics and bugs in a informative way- but in Team Fortress 2. Both of you are supreme content creators for my favorite class based shooters. :)
I love these videos! Every time a question pops up in my mind while watching the video you just seem to address it right after or later, they are very thorough and satisfying. And I see your "unless..."...
This was your best video yet, super insightful especially the rapid discord bit and I loved the pop quizz too
please keep doing these 😭 your voice is so passive and calming and the content of the video is always something fun to watch :) i know they may take time so don’t feel in a rush to pump out content and exhaust yourself but i just hope you know these are amazing
In fact, Doomfist can be in the killfeed as an "assistant". If Doomfist uses "Rocket punch" against Brigitte's "Shield bash" or Reinhardt's "Charge", both of them will "fall" to the ground in the same way as the result of charging Reinhardts from opposing teams. And if after that Doomfist's teammate kills the fallen Brigitte or Reinhardt, then Doomfist as an assistant will get into the killfeed along with the teammate who killed the enemy. I used Google translator, sorry if something is wrong here.
@Psyphelia
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t even tell you used google translate lol. That’s interesting though.
I love that you use the actual ability names (or shortened versions) except Lucio, just "his boop"
These videos are amazing. I like the "behind the scenes, why do the abilities do what they do" kind of content on video games. Especially Shounic with Team Fortress 2. Since I've been playing overwatch lately, this content really hits the spot. Thank you
Quality of videos is so good I forget you only have 45 k subs ; you're hella underrated
Dude your editing is next level. Clean graphics, tons of animated segments and transitions, clear illustration of what's happening, no clutter.
Yet again, an impressively polished and well structured video. I hope your success grows more and that it drives other OW creators to take it up a notch! I’m glad theres still people who are passionate about this game considering we’re in season 76 of OW1™ competitive play.
I already know that this video is gonna be high quality, keep up the great stuff marblr
I just realized I have watched all of your 11 most recent uploads. I love this kind of content
The quality of your videos is insane, plus respect points for nostalgic music choices
3:01 The hell is that icon next to the Discord Orb symbol? Anyone else notice it?
@fizzlock
Жыл бұрын
I don't know what you're talking about 😳
@_ikako_
Жыл бұрын
😳
@tommytx3769
Жыл бұрын
What if we kissed in the workshop maps? Jk jk.. unless?😳
These edits are so smooth and well made, keep it up!
Dude your content is awesome, I've always thought about how things like this work but could never fully understand them. Best new OW content creator
I love how every single ability you mention by name, but Sigma's Accretion, you just call "Rock"
@aqn01
Жыл бұрын
wallhack, shatter etc?
@TrueOracle
Жыл бұрын
Boop?
@RidhaFA
Жыл бұрын
grav?
@ReptillianStrike
Жыл бұрын
@@aqn01 He specified after the fact that it is commonly referred to as "wallhackl" and "Shatter" is in the name of EarthShatter
@ReptillianStrike
Жыл бұрын
@@TrueOracle Is it not called boop?
Your videos are always so high quality. You deserve way more subs man.
the insane high quality of these videos are wildddddd
Wow. A few months ago i found this channel and i really enjoyed the few overwatch videos that you had created. Since then, the video quality has only gone up, and everything feels incredibly polished and smooth. What you've done is amazing, its just a shame that the overwatch community is so small these days. If OW2 gets popular though, get ready for a huge boom in viewership. Keep up the high quality videos! I can tell you put in a lot of effort, so i can't wait for more :).
Ok, wow!! The quality abd dedication man!... well done
Love these vids. This makes you really think about the CC’s in the games
Great video as usual! One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention despite it being probably being reverted in the live Overwatch 2 version is Moira's Weakening ability from the latest OW2 Beta (I guess I wondered about it since Orisa losing her Ashe/Dva assist bug in OW2 was mentioned in the video). I'm guessing this would work the same way as Ana's nade assist does, but interested nonetheless
@Marblr
Жыл бұрын
Moira's new orb was already removed, lol. but yeah that may have given an assist
The polish of these videos reminds me of something like an Uncle Dane or a Shounic video. You are quickly raising the bar for overwatch content.
I love that these videos are just overwatch variants of shounic’s videos I don’t mean anything bad about it but I just love the video editing and structure style because it’s so easy to just watch a lot of it
the fade in of the nervous emoji on "unless" was elite
The most underrated channel in KZreads history.
Hazy maze cave overtop of the cursed killfeed was really enjoyable. Thank you!
There are so many question I had with DvAs weird heals (and even team kills) and assists, your channel explains these pretty clearly. 👍
@sinanuygur5273
Жыл бұрын
Also I think DvAs flying knockback counts as an assist.
Me getting the quiz at the end correct was the most exciting thing to happen to me all week these videos are so informative, i wish i could absorb information like this in school
This Channel is an absolute GEM of the community. Please keep up the awesome work
Mate, your videos are awesome please keep that high level of contet up.
Love watching your videos! Really enjoyed the unexpected pop quiz in this one lol ;)
Quality is amazing, beyond mortal comprehension.
Bro, you're underrated, you definitely deserve more, keep up the great work
i forgot about the sombra rule on the quiz :( great editing your videos get better everytime i see them
I like all the TF2, Jerma and Star references, and the shounic type of content and editing. Keep on the great work!
This man's answering questions I didn't know I had.
8:12 Orisa here is like: "Seriously?"
I didn’t know I needed shounic videos for overwatch but this was very interesting
The sm64 music was very unexpected, but very welcomed. Love how each killfeed was added to the beat. Very satisfying
man, it's mind blowing how much in depth this is. Also, i am glad OW grants kills to both damaging players, rather than just the one that landed the killing blow that said, the "quiz" was actually kind of cool to try to solve!
Thank you for addressing Rapid Discord, the reason I eventually stopped trying to get new character-specific achievements as they were added.
I've been longing for Overwatch version of shounic;s content for a very long time and this guy delivers
goddamn marblr, good content man keep it up
How is DVA always a star in these videos, she really is spaghetti code
I love your videos man. Even though OW doesnt deserve it (for now) it should be more popular so your videos would get more views. These are as professional as corporate advertising and as funny as the best of subtle phineas and ferb gags. Cheers
getting that quiz correct was the light of my day ong
Very underrated channel. W videos man keep it up♥️
Just coming back to say this video helped me get rapid discord which was the last base game achievement I needed. I love you and thank you so much
Great Video! Though I’m surprised you didn’t Atleast talk about the maximum amount of assists that could appear in the kill feed. I imagine it would be impossible for EVERY assist to register in a hypothetical 12v1, but I don’t know
I LOVE THE QUALITY OF YOUR VIDEOSSSSSS
Ur videos make my day. So much information and so easily explained. Thanks marblrrrrrrrrrrr
Your video quality is insane!
Marblr, your videos are EXACTLY what I've been missing from OW cravings!
So in other words, this is the way TF2 calculates assists, minus healing and minus the damage.
Seriously if you post videos like maybe 4 years ago this will be a million subbed channel. It’s just so good, professional yet entertaining
Really well made video with amazing visuals to go along with everything you’re explaining; how do you get the player models like that for your videos? Cheers
Fascinating! Always a pleasure to watch these, but I’m not entirely sure why?
I love your videos so much, incredible work
you're like the shounic of overwatch
This is the first time I’ve ever heard someone use Blinx the Timesweeper music in a video not about Blinx. Very cool
Always such great content
Appreciate these indepth explanations for stuff that I never really thought about, especially as someone that still doesn't have Rapid Discord 👍
great video
@sphrcl.
Жыл бұрын
You haven't even watched it
@mmmhamster
Жыл бұрын
@@sphrcl. i knew it was going to be great
Cool video concept and great execution!
‘No Soldier: 76s were harmed in the making of t- Hold up, nope, they were harmed. A great many of them were harmed.’
these kind of videos are like crack to me, thank you so much for making them
Would love to see an OW2 revisit of assists. Especially since it seems a standard weekly challenge for me is gettting 250 assists/saves. I'm fairly certain healing someone that gets a kill counts as an assist now.
Excellent music choice, I must say.
3:00 That "Unless" emoji tho
These are much more interesting than they first appear. I love these!
Thanks for this video, I was really stumped why sometimes I wouldn't (visually in the killfeed) get credit for an assist, even when I did a bunch of damage to an enemy but just didn't get the killing blow, while other times I would briefly buff the person who got the kill and get credit for it.
Was hoping that you would show the world's largest killfeed, but I guess the world wasn't ready for that one
Wow, such quality presentation!!
I love your videos, you have to be the most sophisticated Overwatch content creator on KZread
I don't know what is more impressive. Videos themselves? Or the fact that you perfectly executed relaunching the channel by stacking content since the OW2 announcement and publishing it in the greatest of syncs with the actual GoLive of the game and the community's peak interest. Well fckin played :) I am all in.
That little “unless” 😳 at 3:00 in the bottom left
9:45 Hey, I recognize that Blinx the Timesweeper rewind sound! And the music used from it, too!
Super high quality awesome videos. Please make more
That video explains so good how assists work and even though I play this game from its release I learned a ton of things! Just need to precise that u forgot to talk about how doomfist and rein can get an assist by counter charging rein's pin, brig's shield bash or doom's punch 👌🇨🇵
No Jack Morrisons were hurt in the making of the video