Donkey, how can the people of darkness aka muslims understand THE LIGHT?

@Al-fathima-Zagreb-noorNo-fe5pi

24 күн бұрын

Never!Will they be able to understand it

@SteveMeineken

23 күн бұрын

Please challenge the argument not the person. Your insults doesn't reflect the understanding of LIGHT you're claiming.

@MrSipahutar1

23 күн бұрын

Sorry, no argument for those living in darkness, especially for those who embrace the teaching of darkness from Hira cave.

@MrSipahutar1

23 күн бұрын

@@SteveMeinekenMuslims can claim that they are good at debating, like Ahmad Deedat, Zakir Naik? But it's useless. Apologetics is not for Islam and muslims. They don't understand argument vs argument. To make things worse, they don't have argument. They are misleading. They only fabricate and justify the invalidity of the 4 entities they claim they have. In my country, they only can ask questions; they never answer a question, again ONE question. I believe it happens not only in my country.

@SteveMeineken

23 күн бұрын

@@MrSipahutar1 Jesus would NOT have said that! But it's up to you to show the LIGHT instead of the DARKNESS.

The fig tree was a lesson and a parable..

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

A parable of what? Please explain so that we are on the same page. Thanks

@k3630

21 күн бұрын

@BloggingTawheed Google fig tree verses, and the parable of the fig tree.

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

Nah I want you to explain this parable you're talking about. Or every time the Christians are faced with a taste of the truth, they twist the context.

@k3630

21 күн бұрын

@BloggingTawheed haha, OK sure. You muslims get proven wrong every time. Go study it for yourself, since you are the one making ridiculous claims

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

You're the one making the claim that it's a parable, but you can't follow up on your claims...

The only thing crushed, were my teeth from laughter! 😂 First of all even Allah in the quran says that the Trinity is Father Son and Mary, so we cannot expect from you to understand and explain if it is true or not.... Second, Jesus was looking for bulbs in the fig tree that when in season, will become figs and he did not find any. So the tree was already withered. A fruitless tree cannot produce any fruits. This a parable was given as a sobering reminder of just how much the Lord hates hypocrisy. Ironically for you, you chose an excellent example to describe religious hypocrites.

@BloggingTawheed

22 күн бұрын

Thank you for your comment. First of all, the Muslims worship only God the Almighth who has no partners, no associates, no wife, son, or siblings. Islam is strictly monotheistic, just like Judaism. There is NO Trinity in the Qur'an my friend. You are mistaken. There is no such thing as Father, son and Mary in the Qur'an. I am afraid that the only thing you know about Islam is through the Christian Apologists, which are miscrued and full of lies. I encourage you to make your own independent research and find out for your own sake, your own salvation. I will reply to your second statement with a question: if Jesus was God, right? Is that what your belief? If Jesus was God, how come he didn't know the fug tree was fruitless? Hypocrisy is when you close your eyes and refuse to inspect or question your belief, or should I say the doctrine of paul?

@plottingpoet3875

22 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed Christian here. The Quran does not hold to the Trinity. Surah 5:116 explicitly speaks against it. However the Quran misrepresents the basic Christian belief of Trinity, presuming it consists of the Father, Son and Mary. This illustrates that the Quran possesses errors of incorrect representation.

@Sid3-yx7xq

22 күн бұрын

Surah Al-Ma'idah 5-116 : And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah? Allah refers to the Trinity that Christians believe. Of course nowhere it says that muslims believe this. The problem is that Christians never believed that Mary is a God, nor that Jesus is a different God. This is not the Christian doctrine. So how come Allah doesn't know what Christians believe? Allah is the ALL-Knowing right? As for Jesus he used the tree as a lesson for his disciples. What that has to do with being or not being a God? Also you mentioned Paul. So where do you find that Paul says anything different from the authors of the 4 Gospels? You also mentioned about my salvation. So if I believe in Islam and I have many sins, Allah will place in my stead a Jew or a Christian so I can avoid the Hell fire. Sorry I don't want this kind of salvation. I prefer to believe in an all-loving, all-just God, than someone who thinks we are mere slaves and be subjected to his whims.

@atholseptember8937

22 күн бұрын

​​@plottingpoet3875 interested to see the response to your point. It's endless strawmen with these guys where you have to waste time explaining things because they constantly either misunderstand or deliberately deceive their audience. Ps, looks like he has a gripe against Paul as well,

@MrSipahutar1

22 күн бұрын

Hiyal is ibligatory for muslims; hiyal is HALAL in islam. Hiyal had made islam the world fastest growing religion (a claim that muslims repeatedly love saying without providing any proof) for 14 C. It happened before the INTERNET. After the INTERNET, the same hiyal is making islam the world fastest drowning religion in 14 D.

Tawheed tell me you're not being serious because you can't honestly be this ignorant. Staggering ignorance. Please do some actual praying to the ONE true God and have him open your heart and your understanding. This is a horrific attempt at logic but falls woefully short of the mark.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Maybe I need to pray for some divine enlightenment to understand your comment better!

@JohnDoe-101

20 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed Your mocking reply reveals you are not an actual scholar who is seeking the truth but rather a typical Muslim who instead of trying to win people over to God so they can be saved, you attempt to win an argument by trying to employ casual humor. That never actually works.

@JohnDoe-101

20 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed You would rather mock than attempt to sincerely understand someone else's point of view. You are either willfully ignorant or unashamedly deceitful. Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers, (Psalm 1:1)

Flaw in argument 4 seconds in when God "BECAME" a man. You clearly aren't debating apologists. We believe, and it's imperative that you correctly address OUR BELIEFS, and not what you perceive our beliefs to be, is that God TOOK ON HUMAN FORM, not became. That means that divinity was poured out into humanity, and melded with an earthly form.

@josephodoherty7864

21 күн бұрын

You're nearly as incoherent as the clown in the video. Not sure what you're trying to say or if you're of a cult not Christianity.?

@AlonzoHarris235

21 күн бұрын

There are two states. God without taking flesh and god taking flesh. That’s a change.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out! It's always interesting to hear different interpretations. I have heard it all... all sorts of explanations to the Trinity from Christians and none identical or even close... So, I guess, God was just trying out a new fashion trend with the whole human form thing?

@atholseptember8937

20 күн бұрын

​@BloggingTawheed new thing? It was prophesied, so not new but very awaited for by the Jews at the time. You may want to look into the Messianic prophecies that predates Jesus by hundreds of years, that all point to God literally taking on human form,

I don't understand Muslims. If I am sick and I want to be healed, I see a doctor. If I want to learn maths I will ask to be taught by a maths teacher. If I want to learn how to drive I will go to a driving school. I.e we always seek experts in that particular field. So why is it that when it comes to Christianity the Muslims blindly listen to their dawah team when these people are not qualified in Christian theology? They have no academic credentials on the subject. Surely you would go to learned Christian scholars who have degrees on the subject and have spent most of their lives studying it. When it comes to religion all rational thought disappears.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Maybe we should have a "theology school" next to the "driving school" for all-round spiritual guidance! And may be, just maybe we should all start carrying our academic credentials around for spontaneous theological debates! But hey, thanks anyway for sharing your thoughts! It's cool to see how different people approach learning and seeking knowledge.

You're assuming that Jesus, being God in nature, had all of the attributes of the Father. That's your flaw. Jesus humbled himself at the incarnation. Though he was divinity, he took on flesh and suffered as any man does, in ignorance. You'll learn that Jesus, shortly before his crucifixion, prays to the father that he would restore the glory he formerly had in heaven, prior to the incarnation. So it appears Jesus can still be divine in nature, while being ignorant as a man, and fully reliant on the Holy Spirit for wisdom, strength, comfort, knowledge, etc.

@BloggingTawheed

22 күн бұрын

How can he be divine at all if he's reliant on the Holy Spirit? Is the Holy Spirit divine as well? What prior glory did Jesus have before? And if he was God, why would he ask God 🤔 the father to restore his glory? Read your statement again. You'll find that you're contradicting yourself. Why complicating the matter?

@joygibbons5482

21 күн бұрын

They never seem to understand kenosis

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@joygibbons5482 spot on.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed your blind but think you can see. Thats the danger. Repent before it's too late or you will end up in hell. Your false god isn't going to save you. Turn to Christ like many Muslims are.

@AlonzoHarris235

21 күн бұрын

@@joygibbons5482 The second person in the trinity is all knowing and not all knowing at the same time. That’s a logical contradiction.

I pray for you and those like you, that satan loosens his grip from you,so that you may come to know our all loving Father, Son and Holy Spirit. In Jesus’s name Amen.

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

Is Jesus God the Father? Why do you say in Jesus's name instead of in God's name? You left the Father name then... who is greater Jesus or the father? Who created who? Did God the Almighty create Jesus or vise versa? Who existed first, God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit? If Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is not the Holy Spirit and the Father is not Jesus, how comes they are one? THINK.

Fellow brothers in Christ. Let's not give this guy any further interest as he isn't genuine about seeking truth. All he wants is to defend his broken, satanic religion.

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

How about admitting you're not following the true path of righteousness? Did Jesus worship God? If so, then submit to God the Almighty, the God of Jesus, and all the prophet and the messengers peace be upon them. The One and Only True God.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed Give it up man. Your arguments are so weak but I'm not going to waste my time refuting positions from someone not prepared to accept truth claims. John 17:5 NKJV - And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. Who can receive glory but God alone? No one is worthy of glory but God.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Weak arguments? Maybe I need to up my game! Oh wait! If weak arguments are my superpower, I must be invincible!

To be honest,We “Christians” and You “Muslims” do not believe in The Same God a.k.a Jesus Christ,It’s pointless for muslims to try and dismantle “Christianity”if we don’t believe in The Same Christ,Problem Solved!

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Well, that's one way to solve the age-old religious debates!

Read Mark 11: 20 there you see the fig tree has withered, can a man curse and make a tree wither. Jesus there was emphasising the power of having faith. More over when Muslims are discussing the trinity or God becoming man, they conveniently forget that God is Almighty, he is capable of anything. He took the form of a man to exist in the earth as a human. He is God, Jesus is part of the glorious Trinity. Believe in him and be saved..

Be careful with saying that Jesus did not come in the flesh. See the verse beneath. Your Koran says to believe in the Injeel or Gospel. The claim by certain islamic scholars and Imams that it has been corrupted is not a reason to denounce the whole bible or New Testament. This is dangerous to your salvation. In some esoteric schools Jesus is Light, Christ is Love If you haven't experienced this then you don't know what St. Paul meant by that Christ Jesus within you. And you should not teach these things. 2 John:7 "I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."

@BloggingTawheed

22 күн бұрын

Who is this St Paul? Did he ever meet Jesus? Do you really believe his nighttime story of the vision out of nowhere? Why did James contradict Paul and accuse him of false teachings? Jesus came in the flesh... what's strange about this statement? I agree and acknowledge this fact. What other forms do you expect Jesus to be born other than Flesh? You and I are born in flesh as well. So what's special about Jesus coming in Flesh?

@user-xu1hn3ic6b

22 күн бұрын

Christians and Muslims pliz study before you speak . In the gospels Jesus said the Law, psalms and prophets wrote about him. You can not talk about the Jewish messiah without quoting the Law Psalms and prophets. The Law Genesis 18A man visited Abraham and he called he Lord and judge of all the earth but he ate food washed feet and conversed with Abraham. In a number of cases the angel of the Lord appears Is identified as messenger God Yahovah To Hagar Abraham Jacob Moses Joshua Gideon Manoah The angel of the Lord is unique. In Genesis we read God appeared to Abraham,Isaac, Jacob. What the above illustrates is that in Jewish tanakh God manifested in his creation...put on human nature or appeared as angel of the Lord. Secondly Genesis 49 the scepter and law...until he comes to whom it belongs...prophet and king is coming out if Judah Psalms 110 The Lord Yahovah says to David's Lord messiah...this is divine Micah 5 one out of bethlehem whose goings are from of old ancient of days. Malachi 3 the Lord whom you seek shall appear suddenly in the temple...the messenger of the covenant Dan 7 he comes riding in the clouds he says with his angels in great power and glory to be given an everlasting kingdom to be served by all people's. Those verse show the on refered to is not ordinary but has divine nature. Remember you Muslims avoid mention of the Spirit Yet Quran shows you the Spirit We blew into her of our spirit The Spirit can appear as a man The Spirit strengthens believers all world The Spirit is distinct but proceeds from Allah Spirit is uncreated hence eternal. Prove me wrong. So research before you make claims not fully substantiated. So God can appear as a man and eat food wash feet and converse He can appear as angel of the Lord

@voornaamachternaam6159

22 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed *St Paul is an apostel Acts 19:14-15 Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this. But the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you? *Yes *Yes, because Paul is King Saul in the OT *Where does James accuse Paul of false teaching? You mean these verses maybe about Faith and works: Paul: We’re justified by faith, apart from works of the law (Rom. 3:28). James: A person is not justified by faith alone (James 2:24). First you have to understand what faith, understanding and Law mean. And if you read paul's other letters, he doesn't say; do nothing and don't work. Even the rich man who followed all the commandments needed to follow Christ in order to have Eternal Life. Why was Jesus in the flesh so special you ask: Ephesians 2:15 *by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace. Ephesians 2:18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. That 'flesh' is also you.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed seriously bro. You really need to study Christianity before posting these "popular" misconceptions/ uneducated arguments. You really don't have a clue and I'm not surprised but you're totally spiritually blind and deceived by satan. Problem is, you won't scrutinise your own faith to see the problems and issues. You find issues now and again with your fake religion but you gloss over it and don't dare investigate it in case you find things that cannot be reconciled. Pity you didn't ask questions of your faith. But you won't because you're scared of confronting things that will destroy your faith.

@manueljoaquim7485

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed are you joking, Did Mohammed ever meet Jesus? Yes Paul meet Jesus, on the road to Damascus in an apparition , it changed his life, he went from crucifying's Christians, to becoming a Christian and Paul went to Jerusalem and meet the apostles, who lived and spoke to Jesus, and confirmed that he was preaching the same gospel, and Paul wrote his letters himself, yet you believe that Mohammed spoke to an angel, but Mohammed believed he meet the devil himself, but it was his uncle you convinced him is was an angel, and Mohammed never wrote anything, so who are you going to believe, Paul who meet and spoke to the eye witness, and wrote what he heard and saw, or Mohammed who came 600 years later, who never meet Jesus, who never wrote anything down, who thought he was possessed by a demon, to me it's a no brainer,

You haven't got a clue mate. Jesus couldn't die for our sin if He did not take on human flesh. Regarding the fig tree - Jesus limited Himself most of the time, and deliberately chose not to use divine knowledge. Yet there are other times when He does and says things that only God can know. How could He be an offering for sin if He didn't experience what it was like to live as a human. You claim to crush the Trinity. What a joke man. You just don't understand the Trinity.

@DisprovingLies

22 күн бұрын

Why God needs to die at all for our sins !? 🤣 He's not able to forgive without dying?

@Sid3-yx7xq

22 күн бұрын

God is the ultimate love and also ultimate justice. A human's sinless life equals to another's and noone is sinless. So God in His infinite love for all of us, chose to pay the price for all our sins, because He is the only One who could do it. He did not need us, we need him and He was sacrificed for us because He loves us so much. If a human father would sacrifice himself for his children whom he loves, imagine how much more God loves us all of mankind to do this.

@BloggingTawheed

22 күн бұрын

God the Almighty in His infinite love and mercy is capable of forgiving sins without blood sacrifice. Both the Old and New Testaments acknowledge that God the Almighty doesn't accept blood offerings or sacrifices. God, the most forgiving the most merciful the most compassionate is NOT in need of Jesus brutal torture by ignorant people to forgive. What you're saying is that without Jesus' blood, God the Almighth can't forgive, which goes against not only logic but also the nature and the concept of God the Almighty. Thank you 😊 🙏

@Sid3-yx7xq

22 күн бұрын

It is a lie that in the Old Testament God does not accept blood sacrifices. Leviticus 17:11 : “For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.” There is even a sacrificial system! All the books of the Old Testament appoint to the Great Sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ and this is the reason why we do not make sacrifices anymore. And the reason why Jesus had to be killed was because someone had to pay the price for our sins. This is the ultimate expression of how God is all loving and just, because he sacrificed himself for us. Also do not forget John 4:9 : “In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.” He was resurrected to defeat evil and death, glory to our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ!

@atholseptember8937

22 күн бұрын

​@BloggingTawheed so when God commanded Moses and Aaron to sacrifice for the nation of Israel, what was the purpose of that? You clearly don't understand Korban, nor the significance of The Blood, which was absolutely a requirement and accepted by The Lord

Bro.. just read Matthew 28:19.. start early for context of you want. Stop starting in the middle of chapters

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Matthew 28V19 - The OG verse! Always good to start from the top! Thanks for the reminder to start from the beginning for better context! Maybe I should start offering Bible study sessions before my videos!

When prophet Muhammad died, his BODY burried in nabawi mosque in medina, and his SOUL in barzakh (afterlife), question: which one is prophet Muhammad? one in nabawi, or one in barzakh? or is there TWO prophet muhammad????? 1 + 1 = 2 prophet Muhammad

Muslim should used Qur'an about trinity... If Muslim used the bible, they must be misunderstood.

You should debate Sam Shamoun on this. You are twisting things to your benefit imo. Here's his channel: www.youtube.com/@thearchive6671

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

I challenged him to a debate. We exchanged emails back and forth, which was not pleasant since every other word was an R (Bleep) rating. I asked him to give me a date and time so that we could have a dialogue. He refused and ran away.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed Sam would destroy you in a debate as he does to all who come with lies passed on by satan. Don't be arrogant bro. Repent of your ignorance and sin and turn to Jesus Christ. He's the only one that can save you.

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

That's your opinion. Sam doesn't even know if he's a Catholic, protestant, or an atheist. He doesn't even know who he is. He doesn't know what theology he should believe. One day, he says he's a Catholic, and one day, he's an Eastern orthodox... he's confused, just like you, my friend.

@HeavyTruth

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed Hop on his live feed! He does so very often! He welcomes everyone especially when face cam is on! I would love to see this debate! Good luck!

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed seriously. You haven't got the guts to face Sam in a debate. Your career would be ruined.

From the OT, we see hints of a plurality within the one God: The plural noun "Elohim" is used for God in Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man in our image." God refers to Himself with plural pronouns in Genesis 3:22 "The man has become like one of us." Isaiah's vision depicts the Lord as "Holy, holy, holy" - a triple invocation (Isaiah 6:3). The NT provides clearer evidence of the triune nature of God: At Jesus' baptism, the Father's voice is heard, the Son is baptized, and the Holy Spirit descends like a dove (Matthew 3:16-17). Jesus claims equality with the Father (John 10:30) and to have seen the Father (John 6:46). Jesus promises the Holy Spirit as a distinct helper/counselor (John 14:16-17, 26). The Great Commission instructs baptism in the name (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). There are trinitarian formulas like 2 Corinthians 13:14 and 1 Peter 1:2.3 While the OT hints at God's complex unity, the NT clearly reveals the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as distinct persons who are all fully divine and together comprise the one true God

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

If you think Elohim is a plural for Gods, then you have no clue of the linguistic construction of the Semitic languages. Ask any Hebrew person what Elohim means! Matthew 28:19 is a forgery by the consensus of Biblical scholars. What a pity!

What i observe is that muslims like arguing that they are reasoning but faith matters are based on what scriptures says not reason. Can you wuote where quran says Allah cant nanifest in hus creation.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Ah, the eternal dance between faith and reason. Let's see if we can decipher this mystery with the Christians.

Pay close attention to the scripture, the tree had leaves but it did not have fruit. The other fig trees were beginning to produce fruit as fig trees produce fruit from may and can continue to produce fruit into November! You have not used the Bible to destroy the trinity, if the trinity did not exist then who was Jesus praying to? If you don’t understand the Holy Spirit as a separate entity a friend and comforter then my heart goes out to you, if only you knew what you were missing! I say this out of love, it doesn’t take much study of the Quran to find the numerous failed prophecies and realize it cannot be true. Religion is useless without truth, it may comfort you for awhile but then the judgement. What use is it to live a lie? If you were being lied to would you want someone to show you the truth? I love yall and the best part is you can have your own experience with Jesus regardless of what men do or do not say! And once you combine that with a diligent search for truth in the Holy Bible your mind will be blown! You owe it to yourself and those you love to seek the truth before it cannot be found

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

My friend, thank you for your comment. We respectfully differ on who Jesus is. Jesus prayed to God the Almighty. Do you agree with me on this? If yes, then Jesus had a God, and he was in need of God. Anyone who prays to God and is in need of God is NOT a God. Simple as that. Was Jesus praying to himself? How can Jesus pray to God, yet he is God? If Jesus is God, and he existed before Abraham as the Trinitarians claim, was he with God and God himself? Or did God (Jesus) become a man, and this God/man (Jesus) was killed by the very same creation he creates? Think about it, my friend. I can say the same thing to you about finding the truth and salvation. God does NOT need us and definitely does NOT need to become a man to be killed for our sins. God, the Almighty can forgive sins without anyone's blood. Jesus sais over and over that God the father is the only true God. So where is the confusion here? Father is not a biological term but metaphorical. In this sense, God the Almighty is our father as well since He created all of us. Thank you 😊 🙏

@tomr7222

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed So the god you pray to would NOT die for you?

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Well, I'm still waiting for a sign... maybe my god is just fashionably late to the sacrifice party! My God believes in leading by example, not by dramatic exits such as the crucifixion!

@tomr7222

16 күн бұрын

​@@BloggingTawheed so Islam denies the death and resurrection of Jesus for our sins and replaces it with what?

Please dont deceive people like that. The bible did NOT mention that the fig tree was not in season. No man can curse a tree like that and the tree died. Cant you see power and authority of God in flesh? Are you not afraid of God?

@BloggingTawheed

16 күн бұрын

If the healthy fig tree didn't have fruits, it means it was NOT the season for figs. Cursing the tree is a human nature and not God's. If Jesus was God, all he had to do was make the tree fruitful, but he does NOT have that power or authority. God in flesh? So God got hungry and cursed at the fig tree he created because God got confused and forgot it was not the season? Stop lying about God the Almighty with your pagan shenanigans. God the Almighty is beyond what you ascribe to Him.

@Mike-vvwvvwvv

16 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed Obviously you dont know anything about trees. I've been cultivating trees all my life and I know that some trees does not bear fruits even thougg it was in season. And some trees can grow more and bigger fruits than others. What Jesus did was a metaphor giving example of that humans too must be productive. God does not get hungry. You forgot to read that Jesus fasted 40 days amd 40 nights without eating or drinking. You will die if you do that but only Jesus can do that. Dont be hateful to Jesus. I'm not lying about God but you are the one that bows and kisses the pagan black stone. Do you think that God are praising you for doing that?

@valmadf

15 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed "all mighty god is beyond what you ascribe to him" take your own advice .please.

The trinity is three gods.

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

Exactly... three Gods, not one God, which makes the entire doctrine polytheistic. Jesus did NOT preach this doctrine of three persons in one God, or half God half man... yet when I tell people the Trinity doesn't make sense logically, they tell me I don't understand the Holy Spirit 🤔 Jesus, peace be upon him, existed, and was sent ONLY to the children of Israel (Jacob). This people of Israel drove Moses bananas. The moment they crossed the sea and were saved from the Pharoah, they started worshipping a calf as if the calf liberated them from Egypt! They almost killed Moses. Matter fact, Moses died while angry at his people. This is the people Jesus was sent to, specifically to the Lost Sheep of Israel. And he is coming back to finish them this time. Not as a gentle person but a warrior with a sword.

@tomr7222

21 күн бұрын

no. trinity is 3 persons, 1 god

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

That's still does NOT make sense. Three persons can NEVER be the SAME. The Father is NOT Jesus. The Father is NOT the Holy Spirit. Jesus is NOT the Father. The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus. How 🤔 then do you make them ONE?

@tomr7222

16 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed a campfire has heat, light and sound but it is one

So… you’re limiting gods power? Can he not do ALL things. And I’m sorry… this is not a substantial argument, it was an AUTHENTIC human experience. Not a half and half use my power when it’s convenient. You’re missing the whole point. Which is wild.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

No. you're missing the point because you have no true spiritual light in you. (2 Corinthains 4:4-5). The Son of God humbled Himself Philippians 2:5-11.

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

Who's limiting God? I say God the Almighty is capable of forgiving sins without Jesus' blood. I say God the Almighty is all forgiving all wise and all compassionate. I say God the Almighty doesn't need to become a man or associate another entity in His kingdom. You miss the true concept of God because you are blinded by the Trinity. This Trinity, of you do your research, is an invention of Athanasius, not Jesus. Jesus never ever claimed to be God. Show me just ONE verse that Jesus said I AM GOD, WORSHIP ME. thanks.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed really? An invention of Athanasius. Friend, you confuse affirmation with invention. The Trinity was defined or described based in the Scriptures, not mens imaginations. Who is the Spirit in Genesis 1? Who is Elohiym (plurality). Who is the "US" . Genesis 1:26? Genesis 1:26 NKJV - Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” God could not be referring to an angel or another created being. He had to be referring to the eternal logos, but the Word. What you have in Genesis 1 alone is the Trinity.

First , learn the symbolic meaning of fig tree from the Bible.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

Fig trees in the Bible are more than just a source of fruit - they're like the hidden gems of symbolism! Hey, did you catch the symbolic meaning of the fig tree in the Bible? It's pretty fascinating stuff!

@KungfuPanda342

20 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed google fig tree generation before making sarcastic comment

@KungfuPanda342

20 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed did you Google it ?

Where is the tempral fine paid in islam? If you are saying it is not needed, Allah is not a god of justice and therefore the whole of islam starst to crumble...FAST.

@BloggingTawheed

17 күн бұрын

Yet God the Almighty came down to earth, became human, and killed by arrogant people He created is JUSTICE?

@cheli.x

17 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed The wages of sin is death. Jesus taught that the greatest love of all is to lay down your life for everyone you love - Unconditional love for all creation. Since Allah is not omnibenevolent, How does Allah compete with Jesus' loyalty proved to humanity? It's a mutual relationship no?

I watched the whole video, and I am sorry to say that you do not understand the Trinity, now do you understand Christianity, I guess that is what it must be like, when Muslims say Christian apologist don't understand the Koran, You sir might know the Koran but your lacking in Christian studies, Did you actual study it, or are you just parroting other Muslims apologist taking points, because you did not say anything new that I have not heard before, and everything you said can easily be debunk by a Christian apologist, Can I ask you , and I think it a fair question, since Muslims will ask the same question to Christian apologist, Where did you study the new Testament, what school did you study it, and did you study it in Greek or Hebrew.

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

I'm sorry to say the Trinity does NOT make sense because of its logical problems. Jesus, peace be upon him, never preached the Trinity. Jesus is innocent of what you ascribe to him. Jesus did NOT say I am God worship me. In contrast, Jesus said worship God alone, your father and my father, your God, and my God. He also said that the only TRUE God is the father who is the father of all humanity in that sense. Where did I study the NT? It's a fair question, and I am forced to respond since you asked if you're interested in the truth. First of all, I am a linguist, and I speak 7 languages, including Arabic, which is my mother tongue, Hebrew and Greek, German, French, and English. My first degree was in English linguistics. So yes, I do understand the language construction of all these languages. My second degree is in the medical field as I studied medicine. Finally, my last degree is in theology and philosophy, where I studied not only the NT, the OT, and the lost apocryphal, but I also studied in different languages. I don't claim to know it all. But what I know for sure is that the Bible we have today was NOT written during the time of Jesus peace be upon him. The guy by the name Athanasius decided after 325 AD after the council of Nicaea what books should be or should not be included in the Canon. Jesus never said 80% of what's in the Bible we have today. The book that has letters written to other people, opinions, and biographies of certain people is NOT the word of God. Please understand that I am not here to make fun of people's faith. But I am here to give you intellectual academic arguments to make you THINK. Thank you 😊 🙏

@tomr7222

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed what is you basis for concluding that the Bible is not the word of God, but presumably the Qu'ran is? Do you even know what the Qu'ran says about the bible?

@manueljoaquim7485

20 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed thanks for the reply, I am all about logic, so if I am an trinitarian human being, (body, Mind, Spirit), why can't God Be a trinitarian (Body,Mind,Spirit). Impressive resume, I only asked because Muslims always do the same to Christian Apologist, I read the Koran when I was a Kid, and was not impressed, Allah seems to be confused, who is Allah praying to, anyway it did not come off as the word of God, but just words of man, which I am fine with, God uses Man to help Man, worst case scenario they all maybe a fairytale, so which fairytale, do I select, I think I pick the one that closest to the Truth, to me if God is anything he is the Truth, speaking of Truth, I don't know if it comes from Islam, or just bad Muslim Apologetics, and I am sure Christian have them to. So what the point of lying your only going to get caught, and then when you tell the truth, nobody will believe you. but I am not sure if they are intentional lies, which is malicious, or just ignorance, first I heard that the Koran is the True word of God, but the truth is that it might be great poetry, but philosophy, I have seen better by man, also Allah sound bitter, why does he hate Jews so much. Second I heard the Koran was revealed to Mohammad by an angel, Ok Cool, how did the angel prove that he was an angel of Light and not one of darkness, the truth he did not know, and Mohammed thought that he had encountered a demon, ok, that is a bad sign, and it was his uncle that convinced him that it was an angel, after Mohammed was suicidal, then I heard that the Koran was a miracle, reveled by Allah, no such thing happen, it was written later by his companions , when they took scraps of text from rocks and skins, ok, sounds like all authenticity is out the windows since Mohammed was dead by this point. any pagan rock of Pagan text can enter in to the Koran, then I heard that Mohammed lived a righteous life and was sinless, but then it turns out Mohammed was poisoned by a lady to revenge the Murder of her father and husband. then I heard that the Koran has been preserved word for word, but It turns out that Morocco and Saudi Arabia have a different Koran, then I heard that there is scientific miracles in the Koran, turns out that have to squint really hard, or reinterpret the Koran message to come out miracles. anyway I am sure you do not believe anything I wrote, and that fine, I can not disprove the Koran I don't have that knowledge I just hope you are the best Muslim you can be, but I am now start to think that maybe it not the Koran that causing all this mayhem, perhaps it all the hadiths, that was written two hundred year after the fact. I am not a Christion apologist, I just clicked on the video because the definition of the Trinity interests me.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

I appreciate you taking the time to respectfully engage in this discussion. I'll send you my full response shortly.

@BloggingTawheed

19 күн бұрын

@manualjoaquim7485 Greetings my friend! Hope all is well.... Please pardon my late response. To begin with, you have raised many points and I am going to attempt and answer them one by one (It's going to be a very long comment): Let's start with the Qur'an. I can assure you it's not a fairytale. First, I would like to recommend a book, {The Bible, The Qur'an and Science} written by Dr. Maurice Bucaille, a man of great knowledge in the field of Science and Medicine. On the other hand, I am going to tell you what you missed while reading the Qur'an. Three examples will be provided that would confirm the Qur'an is divine and indeed the word of God, and it's impossible for Muhammed (pbuh) to have known this information in the seventh century without a heavenly intervention. Note, these new information have never been revealed before in any book or revelation to any prophet, not even to Jesus (pbuh). Number one is the body of Pharaoh. The Qur'an explains EXACTLY how Pharaoh died and how his intact body was going to be found. The Qur'an says this is a promise from Allah (swt) to remind every tyrant on earth that their end will be exactly like that of pharaoh. Well... years later, a team of French and British archeologists and physicians found the body of Pharaoh in Egypt preserved exactly in complete correlation with the Qur'an's claims. Scans and x-rays were performed, and the results were broadcasted live on tv where the team reverted to Islam. You can check these facts on the internet and KZread... Number two, There is a story in the Qur'an that speaks about the people of the cave, and they had a dog with them. Allah (swt) caused them to sleep for over 300 years. The Qur'an says, {And they remained in their cave for three hundred years and exceeded by nine} Qur'an 18V25. The most important verse says, {And you would have thought they were awake, though they were asleep. We turned them over, to the right and left, WHILE THEIR DOG STRETCHED HIS FORELEGS AT THE ENTRANCE. Had you looked at them, you would have certainly fled away from them, filled with horror}. Qur'an 18v18. The phrase we're concerned with is in capital letters... Why would a dog be described as stretching his forelegs only for over 300 years and not be turned to the right and left as the human body? One of the German medical scholars said, "I was traveling one day and I met a young man at the airport who presented me with a translated copy of the Qur’an. I thanked him and put the copy in my pocket with the intention of throwing it in the trash after the young man was out of my sight so as not to embarrass him." The doctor forgot the copy in his pocket and boarded the plane. And because of the length of the journey and the boredom that permeates it, he said, {I took out a copy of the Qur’an from my pocket when I felt its presence, then I opened it and turned the pages, so my eyes fell on Surat al-Kahf (Chapter of the Cave), and I read. Then two verses stopped me, they are God's saying, Glory be to Him that means, "And you see the sun, when it rises, it turns away from their cave to the right, and when it sets, it turns towards them to the left, while they are in a gap thereof..." And the verse that means, "And you think they are awake while they are lying down, and we turn them to the right and to the left, and their dog stretches out its forearms with a catch..." The doctor says that turning them over while they are sleeping is understandable in order that their bodies do not sore if they remain asleep in one position, but what surprised the doctor what he said in the verse preceding it "and you see the sun, when it rises, it turns away from their cave to the right, and when it sets it turns towards them to the left", meaning that the sun enters the cave every day, but it does not come directly on their bodies, and he says that this is known in medical science, in order not to get bed sores, it must be a ventilated room and the sun enters it without it being directly on the body. Then the doctor went back to thinking about the next verse where he says that really, in order for ulcers not to occur, the lying person must be turned over so that the body does not fester and rot and be eaten by the earth, *but what amazed the doctor was that {their dog was not turning over like them}, but rather spreading its arms in one position for 309 years, his body did not ulcerate or rot.* This prompted the German doctor to study the physiology of dogs, and what amazed him was that he found that dogs have unique glands under their skin that secrete a substance that prevents skin ulceration as long as there is life in the dog’s body even if they do not move and turned right and left like the humans in the cave. This doctor became Muslim because of this miraculous matter. The German doctor was amazed from his first reading of this Surah (Chapter), was stopped by miraculous things and he did not just read without contemplation. God Almighty has commanded us to worship Him Properly through proper religious knowledge and to reflect on the Qur’an not just reading it like a novel. Number three is the two seas that touch but don't mix. Muhammad never left Arabia. The farthest he ever went was Syria today and that happened at his young age in a business trip with his uncle. He couldn't have known all the miracles in the Qur'an that are just now being discovered one by one. Check out the two seas that touch and don't mix on KZread. The Qur'an mentions this natural phenomenon and explains it in details. You can verify all of these on YT. We, the Muslims, make sure these positive information are shared in public for everyone to see. The truth is right there next to you. You just have to be willing to say, you know what I am going to seek the truth and I am going to pray about it. The truth will always be revealed regardless of time and space. and this is my second point I want to reply to. I don't have a problem with Christian Apologetics defending their belief. The biggest problem with them is the dishonesty and deceit. Take for example Avery (GodLogic), Sam Shamoun, and David Wood...etc The lies they spread about Muslims and Islam is beyond imagination. They infect thousands of hundreds of people every day with their hate and false information and they act as if they are scholars of not only the Bible, but also the Qur'an and the Arabic language. What Christian people don't know about these folks is that they are mainly doing it for the MONEY and the SHOW. They could care less about Christianity. They even bring "fake Muslim people" and pretend they leave Islam and accept Christ on their live. The truth always prevails. The truth always come out like you said. My next point is the authenticity/reliability of the Qur'an. You kinda mentioned several things at once including whether the Angel Gabriel appeared in the cave to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) or the Angel of Dark (???). You said: "first I heard that the Koran is the True word of God, but the truth is that it might be great poetry, but philosophy, I have seen better by man, also Allah sound bitter, why does he hate Jews so much." This is why Christians are the most ignorant people on the planet and you shouldn't take this personal. Because I am NOT attacking you but your ideas and your thinking. I don't even know where to begin and how to answer this hypocrisy... Anyhow, Let's talk about the term Jew/Judaism. “Who was the first Jew?” Well, it all depends on what exactly is meant by the word Jew. Originally, the Israelites (The Children of Jacob) are known as the Hebrews. The term “Jew” did not come into use until after the northern tribes were exiled to Assyria and the tribe of Judah was dominant. The word Jew developed as a shortening of the word Judah. The dominance of the tribe of Judah resulted in all of the Israelites, people from all 12 of the tribes, being referred to as “Jews” and this is how Judaism came to existence as a religion after Judah. It's not a religion but a title. So, who was the first Jew? This question can be tricky to answer because most Christians say Abraham was the first Jew. I will remind you again, {Jew/Jewish is a title}, not a belief or a religion. Abraham was not a Jew or a Christian. Therefore, we can not just pick a person and say he was a Jew/Jewish. The best term, in my opinion, is the Israelites (the Children of Jacob) since they were not Jewish and didn't practice Judaism. We are told in the Qur'an that when death came to Abraham, he asked his kids (Isaac and Ismael) who do you worship after me? they said Allah (swt)... Same happen with Isaac, when at death bed, and his progeny said exactly that... All the prophets were Muslims, not Jews or Christians (From Christ/Anointed). Having said that, Allah (swt) doesn't hate the Jews or any specific groups. Allah (swt) hates hypocrisy and evildoers whether it comes from, Muslims, Christians or Jews. Allah (swt) hates INJUSTICE. So look around and tell yourself which of the three religions commit INJUSTICE in the world? To Be Continued...

Yiu can only say you crushed it itf you provide verses to say otherwise. I have shown you that i the Law if Moses God appeared as a man and ate food ,eashed feet conversed God apoeared as the angel/mesenger of God so in man and angel God manifested

God never became man but divine nature put on flesh. That's why Jesus was pure to have God's values tabernacled in that body. You dont remember on Qiran Allah tells sngels to worship Adam, One likely teason given ny mudlims is because Hofs nature was put in him ie the Spirit. That's what they worshipped. But satan was punished for right action. So Jesus is same similtitude like Adam ie haf the Spirit put in him and is callef Spirit of Allah. We ve seen the soirit proceeds from Allah

why do you claim the natures do not mix? God created man in His image

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

You mean God looks like you and I? What image? You image, my image? God have mercy!

@tomr7222

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed Genesis 26-27 ffs man can't you even read the first book of the faith you are attacking?

@tomr7222

21 күн бұрын

26 Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.” 27 So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

Jesus is God, but was on earth a human in ouer place. Even he is divine of his original nature. He prayed to the Father as a human in the same condition as a human on earth. After His resurection in heaven. Jesus is one unit with God the Father as he was before He was born on earth to a human. 1. John. V.1

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

So what you're saying is that God 🤔 came down to earth and became Jesus, then allowed his creations to torture and kill him so that he could forgive people who killed him... and then God/Jesus went back up there to be with God/Jesus, the father, since God existed before he was born. I mean... not even the pagans believed this traumatizing concept of nonsense even though they had their own Trinity.

@dans78

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed You dont know much about Christianity, you should try study and learn so you dont need to say stupid things. Jesus is not the Father, Jesus was already in heaven before he came to earth as human. Jesus and the Father are one in spirit but difrent persons in the trinity. 1 John. v.1 is about Jesus. He is the word of God

@dans78

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheedYou dont have to try to twist anything and try be funny or smart Bec you are not, you are like children in islam. Try to learn anything about christianity. Jesus is the word of God read 1.John. v. 1. He was already before he came to earth. Jesus is one in spirit with the Father but Jesus and the Father are two diffrent divine but united characters in the trinity

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed hypostatic union. Do some research. And John 1 explains it. "The word became flesh." The eternal logos never came into existence. He's the Creator of all things. Colossians 1. The problem you have is that Jesus paying for sin is so distasteful to you. And I'm not surprised because Satan hates that Christ paid for sin as well.

@BloggingTawheed

20 күн бұрын

According to you: "Jesus is NOT the Father, yet Jesus and the Father are ONE in spirit but different persons in Trinity." Let's dissect these theories you got going: Jesus is NOT the Father, right? The Father is NOT Jesus, right? You follow me? The Father and Jesus are two different persons, right? Jesus is the word of God. Therefore, the word existed before with the Father, right? That makes Jesus (word) a creation of the Father since the Father is NOT Jesus (word), therefore, the Father is NOT Jesus (word). Do you agree? The Father can NOT be His own creation (Word). Jesus is a creation (word) of the Father. God, the Almighty is NOT created, and Jesus was created. That's why Jesus is NOT the Father (God). This is Logic, my friend. Jesus is NOT God, the Almighty. And Jesus can NOT be God. Simple. Otherwise, if you say Jesus is the Father (God), you would create a logical problem, called "The Logical PROBLEM Of The Trinity"

Ok, but not all Christians are trinitarians. But what is the point of your speech? Jesus was still of a divine nature. Even Muslims know that we all have a spirit inside. God breathed his spirit into Adam's nostrils. Adam was divine until the first sin. Even the Quran acknowledges Jesus is divine...more than a mere mortal like Muhammad (pbuh). The Quran says Jesus will judge you. Why not Muhammad? (pbuh). So what you are doing in this video? Attacking your judge who is in heaven with God... The "Trinity Doctrine" was the beliefs of the people of the scriptures 300 years before Islam began, and Gabriel (Jibril) told Muhammad (pboh) to respect and protect Christians (and Jews) because their scripture was God's word....YET Muslims call Christians infidels for believing in the trinity. Why would God (Allah) have Jibril tell Muhammad these things?

@BloggingTawheed

21 күн бұрын

I respectfully disagree. You say Adam had a divine nature until he committed sin... you are stuck on the original sin, and therefore, you have to justify that Jesus (pbuh) had to pay the ransom for us to be saved. We believe in the original goodness instead. God the Almighty forgave both Adam and Eve since they sincerely repented to God. The Almighty is capable of forgiving sins without Jesus' blood. He is the all forgiving.

Jesus says in John 17:3 that the Father is the only true God. In John 20:5, the resurrected Christ says that he has a God, his father. Was Jesus lying? Why not believing that what he said was the truth?...

@BloggingTawheed

22 күн бұрын

I agree that Jesus says the Father is the ONLY TRUE God. I do agree that Jesus has a God, and anyone who had a God is NOT a God. Calling God the Almighty "Father" is metaphorical, and it's not a literal biological relationship. In this sense, God the Almighty is our father as well. He created us. He takes care of us. He provides for us. What do you make them of Jesus saying "I go to my father and your father, my God and your God"?

@aleczemouli2905

21 күн бұрын

@@BloggingTawheed I don't believe in Jesus but I agree with you just based on what the text says. If we respect the rules of language, semantic and vocabulary, it's pretty clear that it is written that Jesus is not God, that he has a God, and that apparently his God is his father, which is also identified as the father of the people Jesus was speaking to.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@aleczemouli2905 Jesus said the Father is the only true God. Correct. That's not a false statement. So why you trying to make out otherwise. What you can't understand is that the Son is also God. Hebrews 1:8-9 - The Father is speaking, "Hebrew 1:8-9 But to the Son He says: " Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions." Problem with you guys is yuou cherry pick verses and don't study the Bible or its context.

@aleczemouli2905

21 күн бұрын

@@andrew7777 so why the author of the book of Hebrews spent an entire paragraph trying to explain that Jesus is higher than the angels? Obviously, if he thought that Jesus was God, he wouldn't have to spend his time making such a futile explanation (because everyone knows that God is higher than the angels). Christians have a tendency to pick verses out of context and cherry pick verses to justify their beliefs. It should be the way around. Not imposing our beliefs unto the book, but let the book teach us (like we do with any other book). Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@aleczemouli2905 so you completely reject God the Father calling the Son God? You are rejecting the Scriptures. What a dishonest person you really are. Not receiving truth, but even when it is offered to you on a plate. Go and study bro, and but you won't because you're clinging on to your satanic system. The religion that will send you to hell for rejecting Jesus Christ. Wake up before it's too late. Repent. Acts 4:12

The God/Man divinity was always around, how can you have 1/2 a God and 1/2 a Man? That means they would neither be fully anything....the bible even says, One shall not pay for the sin of another.....Deut 24:16 also Jesus said Hear Oh Israel, the Lord your God is ONE. Mark 12:29.....The light is the fact that it dawns on you that God is something that does not require blood to forgive you and that you can go directly to him as he loves his creation. Pauline Christianity really screwed up Jesus doctrine.. even went against anything Jesus said....who is more important Jesus or Paul? Jesus of course, so follow him, not Paul.. how best to destroy something? Why go to the inside... be an interloper and that is what Paul did.

@andrew7777

22 күн бұрын

You like most other muslims, lack knowledge of what you're talking about. Read Isaiah 53 (written 700 years before Christ) and tell me that God was not sending Messiah to come and pay for sin.

@user-lm4eu2mr4l

22 күн бұрын

@@andrew7777 Isaiah 53 has nothing to do with Jesus. The servant is Israel, and when this chapter is read in the larger context of the book of Isaiah, it is quite clear that it is describing Israel’s suffering in exile and their future redemption and return to the land of Israel. (If you are interested in reading it in context, begin around chapter 41 and continue through the end of the book.) It is not a messianic prophecy or describing the messiah. Christian readings of this passage are highly dependent on poor (mis)translations, allegorical interpretations, and selectively applying or not applying the descriptions of the servant in the text as it suits them.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@user-lm4eu2mr4l Look bro. You haven't studied the Bible for over 25 years like I have and other Christians, so don't claim to know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea how prophecy works either as ther are immediate, partial and further fulfilments. Your spouting nonesense about mistranslations and the dead sea scrolls demolishes your argument in Isaiah. You claim Christian passages are dependent on allegorical interpretations and you interpret Isaiah 53 in that manner. Your logic is totally flawed and groundless. You're really clutching at straws because you don't want Isaiah 53 to be descriptive of Jesus. Well, wake up bro. It is. Repent or you will truly perish. Come to Jesus Christ before it's too late for you.

@andrew7777

21 күн бұрын

@@user-lm4eu2mr4l why are my responses being deleted?

@user-lm4eu2mr4l

20 күн бұрын

@@andrew7777 This isn't my site, I don't have the ability to delete your responses only the owner does.