Hi John, I have the same mower & I found it easier to replace the drive belt by removing all fluids, (oil & fuel) then turn the mower onto its right side. Place a 100mm timber block under the side of the mowers top frame & front steering housing to hold the mower level. That way you can access the bottom of the mower very easy. I give the bottom of the mower a good clean with a Geanie, that makes it a lot easier to see all the bolts that you need to remove also the removal of the diff housing & very easy access. Thanks again for taking the time to make this video.

... it is an A 29" Belt which is easily obtainable and doesn`t have to come from your Murray agent... to replace the spring was only doable by attaching a wire, twisting the ends to make it an approx. 5 " length, turned into an 8 shape, hooking the spring on one end then pulling it through the hole with a crow-bar stuck through the other end and levering against the side of the frame of the body, making sure the wire was strong enouhgh gauge... I hung my mower up on an engine hoist, securing it with old lenght of seat-belts... many thanks to you John for showing how to do it, it saved me a lot, and I mean a lot of time...

@matthewwigington7461

Жыл бұрын

You positive on the 29" belt?

@k9road

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewwigington7461...yes, 29 fit mine...😊

Thanks John for a great video. I would never have thought to take the axle loose. Made it a lot easier!! Please share more videos for this mower. :-)))

I tried changing the belts with the mower on the ground just like in the video. It wasn't working. I then drained the gas and, backed up the mower to a large tree, and stood it on it's rear bumper. I tied the upper portion of the mower to the tree. That gave me access to everything and finished the job in under an hour.

...... Thanks ....... Great help !!! ..... On my way for a belt now that I know how to replace it ...... Have a blessed .. and a beautiful day

You saved me... I could NOT figure this out, and was able to do it only after watching your video. Thanks

Thank you I couldn't find any videos close to my mower except his one very helpful I'm using your method for my older craftsman 10 hp 30 inch

I just went thru the process of installing a drive belt on my Murray rear engine rider. Your video got me started in the right direction, but ultimately I ended removing the entire transmission. the entire undercarriage was packed with grass and oil. The 12hp B&S motor on this style rider apparently was designed whit a filler tube that used a rubber grommet to seal the connection to the motor. The vibration and poor seal allowed oil to seep out around oil fill tube and leak down under the chassis. I had to power wash both the upper and lower chassis. Even with a through power wash the under chassis and transmission were coated with oil and grass. The main thing is to clean as much of the surface under neath to prevent oil and grease from getting on the belt. Removing the bolt from the left side of the mower belt guard gave me enough room to thread the belt around the bottom large pulley and clear the belt guards. I had to reinstall the transmission to almost inside the chassis before the belt would wrap around the drive pulley. The key is the correct position of the belt on the belt tension pulley and making sure that the belt inside all of the guides. If the belt isn't free to run loose when in neutral, the transmission will not work correctly and the belt will shred itself. My rider also required a adjustment of the clutch belt (pedal) travel because the tension pulley would not pull out far enough to release the drive belt completely. Again chewing up the drive belt if not corrected. Overall the design was very poorly thought out. A additional three inches to the back of the frame would have made belt replacement much easier.

@williambriscoe5316

4 жыл бұрын

Nuttsy14615 when you put the drive belt on does it loop on the outside of the tensioneror no I’m stumped thought I had it right and when I put it in gear and nothing

@Nuttsy-vy7xh

4 жыл бұрын

@@williambriscoe5316 This link will make it easy to see where the belt routing goes.file:///C:/Users/Ron%20normal%20day/Downloads/Murray%20rm%20Parts%20Diagram%20Index%20for%2030577X8A.html Removing the mower deck helps you see where the drive belt is going. The belt has to be inside all of the guides and pins or it will shred itself

@williambriscoe5316

4 жыл бұрын

Nuttsy14615 thanks for the help finally got it and have cleaned the carburetor and I’ve it running fine now I have another issue when engaging it in gear it doesn’t move any suggestions on what to check clutch looks to be in order

@scooter8187

3 жыл бұрын

So that's where the leaking oil is coming from on my 12HP Murray 30 inch rider. It's a mess underneath and leaks constantly on the garage floor. Thanks for the tip.

This really helped me alot thanks guy!!!!!!!!

Great video I have to change the drive belt also I’m going to give it a go. but I have a question is there any way to change transaxle fluid on these

How do you get to those bolts by the main pulley? Socket wrench? Regular wrench. I can't even see them on mine.

Thanks! This just what I needed. I’ll let you know how it goes!

thanks for the vid bud ! big help !

Thanks for this. I was just trying to work out best way to attack this job.

What was the size of that drive belt mine broke and I can't find the size

how does the belt go around the tensioner pulley? does go round it or does it just push on the drive belti it has a belt guide on it? / /

i just did this without taking the axle off there is room above the transmission pulley to slip the belt over no need to drop the transmission

Anyone know why this specific mowers keep tearing up the drive belt I've seen many of them needing to replace the belt could it be the belt itself cheap kind or do they get extremely hot if anybody have an idea please share some opinion

We have the Craftsman version of this. We replaced the belt today, however, the shifter is getting stuck and the brake isnt working well, any suggestions on how to correct it? I also noticed the transaxle pullay had a little slop could that be the problem it moves now, but you cant shift after you go into a gear and cant brake.

@jvh802

5 жыл бұрын

Make sure the belt is fully disegaging. Did this start after the belt was replaced? Sounds like the belt might be a little to small, or the belt run might not be quite right. If the axle is wearing, I would save for a different mower, these are not worth that trouble in my opinion.

@Mr_Tecumseh

5 жыл бұрын

@@jvh802 Well we worked on it some more yesterday and got it to where the shifter is now just sticking some. At first it would not shift at all, the shift arm did not want to budge. After messing around with it for an hour and adjusting the brake rod, clutch rod and that back brake hex bolt on the back of the trans, it started working better, but its still not perfect, it wont shift easy it sticks. I think it has to do with that back bolt that you have to hold with an open end and tigten down at the same time with a half inch, once I started messing with that it was getting better. Once we got it working descent we gave up, we said good enough. We just replaced that belt, got the machine for free, the belt it had was burnt out. Weare getting ready to flip it to sell. I just wish it shifted easier its real tight now and you have to sometimes let it roll a little farther to shift or to shift forward it has to be somewhat moving. We have it close now, its a lot better than it was when we first got the new belt on. Its a nice little RER.

I was given a look-a-like Murray like your's. What belt length is drive & deck belts ? Much appreciative if you answer.

@jvh802

7 жыл бұрын

I believe mine was a 4V that was 30 or 31". I would wrap a string around the pulleys and measure that length to see. Otherwise there might be a manual online that you can reference for your model to find the recommended length.

@junebug92x

6 жыл бұрын

mine is 1/2x30"

@muttbone1

6 жыл бұрын

1/2 x 30.25

Where do the springs go I have 2 of them

Hi how would I go about putting a digital fuel gauge on this mower murray sentinel 10/30

Way to go, i got this now!

What size is the drive belt

Does anyone know the size of the cutter belt?

Good job dude.

What is the part number of the belt?

Got the same mower, but with the 12 HP Briggs motor. Drive belt slipped off, about 10 minutes (with my daughter pressing the brake) and slipped it back on... But now it won't go into gear. "Shifts" through the gears, just refuses to engage. ("Stuck" in neutral).

@jvh802

5 жыл бұрын

Check to make sure its tight, otherwise your gearbox might be shot. Double check the belt is around the pulley correctly.

@vincedunn9983

5 жыл бұрын

@@jvh802 Yeah, was thinking the same thing AFTER watching the video.

I just had to change the same belt on a 12 hp 30 cut and does the belt go around the tensioner or on the inside

@edwardcfinklein198

4 жыл бұрын

Did you ever get it figured out ? I have to do mine and all help would be great.

@williambriscoe5316

4 жыл бұрын

edward c finklein yes I did it’s definitely a pain but lowering the rear end helps or even thumbing it on its side and lowering the deck

How do you adjust 5he brakes in this mower?

@robwright4398

Жыл бұрын

Did you ever figure it out, I need to adjust mine but didn’t see how

What the number on that belt

Do you know Where The model number is on this one? We have to find it on ours Because We need to buy a fual hose.

How do you put the spring back on? by the way you're video was very helpful

@chrisadler7204

Ай бұрын

Did you find a way? That’s where I’m stuck right now and getting very frustrated.

do you have a # for the belt and is it a 30 3/16 o size

@bruceg5582

3 жыл бұрын

murray # is 037×65ma stens is 265-265

Just got one of these mowers. Thx for the video; it'll be useful when I need to replace the drive belt. You sound like your from the Midwest... Possibly Wisconsin?

@jvh802

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Frozen Tundra!

@christopherschaefer8279

3 жыл бұрын

@@jvh802 Yeah but the summers are nice. I enjoyed all three days of it last year! Any suggestions on how to get the belt to engage more tightly from the idler? Once the cursed spring was re-installed the idler won't squeeze the belt tightly enough to engage. The belt is routed correctly.

well it went pretty smoth with your insight, I did one thing dif. just unbolt one side of axle. and you were right it was faster to just lay on my old broke down back, LOL then flip on side. now that belt works, you can't shift drive to R. when its running, turn engine off and it shifts fine, start it up and won't shift. it drives fine clutch works good don't get it. well ill let you go for now good talking.

@jvh802

7 жыл бұрын

john manning glad it went well!

@JimBobFurley1

5 жыл бұрын

You may need to adjust the clutch or shifter on it now that it has a set of fresh belts, old ones stretch.

jvh802, I wish you would have shown how you hooked the spring back up. I spent 2 1/2 hours last night and still didn`t get it on. I changed the motor, but I had the spring hooked up, maybe thats why I couldn`t get. I will go out and try again today. I seen a guy said in the comments, looks like you done it the hard way. To me it looks a lot easier than what I was doing. Thanks for the video

@jamesharper7904

5 жыл бұрын

Did you ever figure out how to put the spring back on? I am stumped.

@christopherschaefer8279

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesharper7904 I wrenched my back trying to get that darned spring back on. It took two of us with a rope tied to the end to pull it through and hook back on to the frame. But now the idler won't engage the belt with enough force to keep the belt from slipping on the drive pulley.

Thank you. I used to have a lot of motion on my camera until somebody pointed it out to me. Use adequate lighting, a flashlight or using a mirror to use the sun reflected light.

@jvh802

5 жыл бұрын

I am not going to claim to be a youtuber... just someone trying to help. Maybe on the next one I will actually edit something haha.

@garycasper2929

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@jvh802It’s super shaky when you watch at 2X’s playback speed… Haha…! 🤘

I took my spring off and don't think I have it routed correctly. Can you send a picture of where it goes?

@jvh802

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I dont have this mower anymore

@ncironjohn4336

3 жыл бұрын

@@jvh802 Haha.

@davidorourke1131

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the video again

thanks i got to do one, what a job its going to be

good job thanks

@jvh802

7 жыл бұрын

john manning thank you!

I was your 100 sub

How did you get the spring back on

@jvh802

5 жыл бұрын

I was able to pull it with the little pick in the video and a pliers if I remember right. I've also seen people use a special spring puller, or they fish a coat hanger folded in half through the hole, hook the spring onto that and pull it by hand with a set of gloves on. No matter what, be very careful they can be very hazardous.

@janicelantz3788

5 жыл бұрын

@@jvh802 Thank You

can I ask why you did not flip the mower on its side

@jvh802

7 жыл бұрын

john manning personally I didn't cause I didn't mind laying on the ground and I didn't want the oil in the engine to go into the cylinder or anything. You probably could if you wanted, though

@johnmanning1006

7 жыл бұрын

I have same mower gona chance belt tomower I was thinking of draining oil and laying it on its side, just a thought. nice meeting you, maybe well talk again, let you know how I made out? LOL thanks

Great video That is the spring from Hell. :) I know its been a few years but do you remember if one side of the deck belt rubs slightly on the guide ?

How did you get the tensioner pulley spring back in place ?

@bjahner2697

3 жыл бұрын

I had to use a spring tool.

What size belt is at driver belt

@jvh802

4 жыл бұрын

I do not remember, I have sold this mower since.

@frankflohr1701

4 жыл бұрын

You can get the belt from Jacks Small engines Pat # 037X65MA it's a 30 inch belt

My yesterday's afternoon work. It took me ages. A job worse than pain in the ass. Broken fingernails, squeezed fingers, ants in my pants. After you did that job the second time you'll seriously think about the purchase of 10 sheeps or a gallon of Glyphosate. That mower was sent from hell!

@jvh802

6 жыл бұрын

No kidding.. Not a lot of clearance down there.

@Maxxxshop

6 жыл бұрын

So the question is Glyphosate or sheeps?

@8668art

6 жыл бұрын

Easy as hell 45 min and i was back up and running

@jvh802

6 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear. Hope this helped

@Maxxxshop

6 жыл бұрын

Few days later the Spring (Extension 165x68) broke. A neverending story.

Can you post belt number I have same mower

Looks like you became a lawn mower mechanic with the breaking of a drive belt. Take a guess why I am here. mine is a craftsman but looks about the same underneath.

I appreciate this gentleman taking the time to do the video but I just replaced this belt in less time than the video takes to watch. Lower the blade carriage and slide the belt up and around the pulley from the motor and then over the top of the three pulleys on top of the blade carriage. The metal "L" brackets are flexible enough so you don't need to loosen or remove anything.

@jvh802

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. You might have a different mower than mine, or a different year. On mine it’s not possible to get the belt up over the pulley on the axel without lowering it a little. I will say also, I can do it faster than the video too, with two hands and not explaining it, it’s not hard to do. Thanks for watching!

@davidjohns9018

4 жыл бұрын

thats the cutting belt, not the drive belt

@harleyb-ham266

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidjohns9018 I stand corrected. The drive belt was a little more involved. Thanks for the accurate info.

I did both belts today on my 10/30 in under one hour, that looked like mega hard way of doing it.

@jvh802

6 жыл бұрын

How did you do it?

@ExperimentalFun

5 жыл бұрын

@@jvh802 I also did mine in under an hour at the beginning of summer, I dropped the deck and I think there was one bracket I had to take off and that's its, i'm sure I could do it even faster the next time.

@jvh802

5 жыл бұрын

@@ExperimentalFun next time you do it, take a video of it and post the link here. I would love to see it, even though I do not own this mower anymore.

@ExperimentalFun

5 жыл бұрын

@@jvh802 I changed it again today, the kelval belt I put on in the beginning of summer had 3 cracks, only holding by the kevlar threads so I bought a cheap $2 belt on amazon, only took 30 mins to change, just drop the mower deck (3pins) and lock the clutch peddle down (parking break), that will take the pressure off the tension pulley, then tip the mower on its side, there is a bracket that goes around the pulleys on the motor shaft, take the 2 bolts out that hold that on, bracket doesn't come out but you can now slide the belt around it, and thats it, you just switch the belts, its not easy because you have to go slow and its kind of like a puzzle but you can weave the belt around everything and get it on, it also will go over the transmission pulley, there isn't much room but its just enough to get the belt over it, with all that said if you do it the right way it should only take 5 min or less to weave the belt around everything. hope this helps someone.

@ncironjohn4336

3 жыл бұрын

@@ExperimentalFun Any concern with the oil? I read somewhere it wasn't good to tip it over on it's side, maybe you just went 45's or something?

Hello dimension belt please. Thank you

@christopherschaefer8279

3 жыл бұрын

37X65MA (p/n 047282101124)

just drop pulley and slide belt around and slide back up

Do not do it to a ohv motor just do it to flat head Briggs and Stratton

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To changes the belt t it on it side it Will not hut it to do it make it easy to replace belt

@jaydee8285

5 жыл бұрын

You would have to drain the fluid right

@tmav6591

4 жыл бұрын

Plastic bag under fuel cap lean sucker over check out taryl fixes all

i did mine the way skinny dee did it alot easier btw mine is a craftsman

Nice try dude but can't see a damn thing,make another video and use a drop light

Learn where to put the light and the camera..no help

@kipdon

6 жыл бұрын

Jon... Seriously Dude? The FACT that he took the time to share this in the first place, should be appreciated. At least critique him in a polite way.

@TOMSS--zk5dc

6 жыл бұрын

I had no problem ..... next time YOU work on something YOU try placing light and camera.

@Arlo3535

6 жыл бұрын

By far the best and ONLY video for this model riding mower. Tremendous help for me!!

@ineeddollars

2 жыл бұрын

I found this very helpful ,thanks from uk

what is the size of the drive belt.

How did you get the spring back on

@jvh802

7 жыл бұрын

It is by far the hardest part of the job. I have a small hook set that I was able to send through the hole, hook the spring loop and then grab the handle with a pliers and pull the spring through.

@Mr_Tecumseh

5 жыл бұрын

Spring puller

@ineeddollars

2 жыл бұрын

Wrap some thick wire so it has 2 loops ,1to go on spring other one onto large screwdriver ,sit next to mower so it can’t move and pull it back into place