I loved that chat unanimously agreed that Banana Guard was low S/high A. BG is so easy to combo with, has multiple kill moves, quick ground to air control, and his neutral B buff-up makes anything a potential kill move at high enough precent

@daniellink8727

Ай бұрын

He is literally shaggy with a spear. I'm not joking the only that makes him worse than shaggy is that his side special has a lot of endlag and gains no armor or stacks weaken when buffed

@ThefamousMrcroissant

Ай бұрын

@@daniellink8727 His side special has wayyyyy more range than Shaggy's. His normals also have way more range. He has nowhere near the combos Shaggy has, but all of them are much easier to execute. If at all he's the "easy mode Shaggy".

@furiousblueblade957

Ай бұрын

The joke character being broken is so funny

@zanesee7066

Ай бұрын

almost 1200 wins with harley and I completely switched to Banana Guard as my main I think BG gotta be top 3 rn

@phlpcockrell

Ай бұрын

​@ThefamousMrcroissant shaggy can cross the whole stage if u power up and side special. BG can do half the stage max. Plus shaggy's side special is a lot faster and safer. BG's vulnerable to attacks from above where shaggy isnt. But yeah he's basically a beginner shaggy.

The jake falloff HAS to be studied 🤦

@thegoldenone3428

Ай бұрын

Nah THE GARNET ONE HAS TO.

@Tomas_Real1

Ай бұрын

Jake is still really strong, people just don't want to play him after getting nerfed

@OrNah.

Ай бұрын

@@thegoldenone3428 She was never good bro what??😭😭

@IstepOnsimps

Ай бұрын

@@Tomas_Real1no bro, I fucking Mained Jake , I know every move he does and he doesn’t really have killer moves any more, and his neutral is basically useless

@harrisonlilje2405

Ай бұрын

Fr he shit on me so much in beta

Right after this Apache got destroyed 4-0 by an iron giant btw

@tyctonic5936

Ай бұрын

Iron giant was just that good

@mikehawkm2952

Ай бұрын

​@@tyctonic5936i play iron giant and his biggest strength is the fact that no one plays him so ppl dont know his moves lmaoo

@dipalibaul9120

Ай бұрын

​@@mikehawkm2952 Its my 2nd day to the game. I was against an Iron Giant using Superman. The fuc he was doing, throwing seeds (i guess its called his infinite) and I barely touched him. Took the life out of me when I ended the match will a loss of 2-3

“I have the hottest takes” “Idk him” “There are none of them” “Haven’t seen any” Don’t take me wrong i find it hilarious and i agree

Stripe deserves at least B tier imo. His forward air has an insane disjoint and comes out fast. He can easily combo off sawblade. His up and forward tilts are also really solid.

@amazingdoorbob5458

Ай бұрын

As someone who plays as him, I'm surprised by his placement here. I'm no pro by any means, but he definitely feels more powerful in this compared to the beta, combos are so much easier with him too.

@AwesomeMooseSmile

Ай бұрын

He also has a much easier time killing now. Up air, Skateboard, and even up tilt are all kill moves despite their issues overall.

@7ilver

Ай бұрын

Everybody sleeps on the bomb move. Bomb is crazy

@fullgrownpotato8272

Ай бұрын

​@7ilver the bomb is risky you can kill yourself if not carefull and it lights you on fire

@a_person172

Ай бұрын

@@amazingdoorbob5458in beta stripe was fucking broken, he’s really bad now in this new engine where everything is slower and he only has like one chainsaw and his bullets deplete unless u do an input to cancel it. I was top 1K with him in beta and played him for the matchups my lebron couldn’t keep up in, and the strings stripe could do were devastating

Bugs not in S tier is crazy

@The_Golden_Pepper

Ай бұрын

He got badly nurfed

@RustOnWindows

Ай бұрын

@@The_Golden_Pepper” nurfed “

@roomba.

Ай бұрын

@@The_Golden_Pepper "nurfed"

@calebayre

Ай бұрын

@@The_Golden_Pepper”nurfed”

@20quidd

Ай бұрын

@@The_Golden_Pepper smartest bugs player

“Bat Boomerang” You mean a BATARANG!?

Stripe is B at least. I am the sole stripe player representative.

@slick_rickgaming1102

Ай бұрын

I try to play Stripe, and while I can rack up damage I find it hard to kill with this guy

@chickenlover223

Ай бұрын

Im a stripe main as well, he's not that bad.

@user-mf1lo5fj6s

Ай бұрын

His fair is insane

@drdepression4605

Ай бұрын

I'm the sole Garnet rn. Garnets c tier.

@amazingdoorbob5458

Ай бұрын

​@@slick_rickgaming1102for me his best kill option seems to be his up tilt. His kickflip from his board is decent, but it requires a lot of damage for a kill.

Guarantee you marvin thr martian will rise in ranks over time. Hes so good when you learn him and his tricks

@lordzendor6698

Ай бұрын

Right I main him and the amount of projectiles you can have up on screen at once (tracking projectiles if you do it along a mars flag) makes the game almost unplayable for the person trying to get back on the inside. I actually think he’s by far the best zoner in the game I get so many people just jumping off the edge after I zone them to death and they’ve hit me for 4 damage … he’s crazy good

@lucas.n.carvalho.artist

Ай бұрын

As a Rift Mode CPU opponent alone he's cracked, imagine in the hands of a really good player! Scared just thinking about it.

@vredxiii5551

Ай бұрын

yep, i see him High A tier

Never let Box man cook again bro what in the world

@FGenthusiast0052

Ай бұрын

From the 3 tier lists I have seen so far, including this one, this is definitely one I can't agree with a lot of placements. Ain't no way you gonna tell me Stripe is on same power level as Velma when she was heavily nerfed, or Finn and Taz on the same tier as Bugs, Arya and Batman... And this two above T&J? Ain't no way

@iceseal7765

Ай бұрын

@@FGenthusiast0052 yeah the bugs stripe and taz placements is definitely what made me question the tier list the most.

@jellybread24799

Ай бұрын

@@FGenthusiast0052I mean he’s not wrong no one plays stripe the last time I played a stripe I killed him 3-0

@FGenthusiast0052

Ай бұрын

​@@jellybread24799 rarity ≠ toolkit. Yes, Stripe is rare to see. But he's nowhere as jank or in desperate need of buffs like Velma. Moreover, Stripe does have a better matchup VS Jason due to faster attacks + ways to break through it. I disagree with a lot of placements on the tier list. Some of them are very fair and totally agree with (T&J, WW, BG, BA, Bugs, Batsy, Steven, etc), but others are just weird. Heck, he even mentions they haven't seen a Taz, and he's placed that high. And I DO main Taz and from all of those on that tier (except Finn) he struggles to get an opening. Rick, Morty, T&J, LeBron and arguably Marvin make it a struggle for him, and is that high? Ain't no way

As someone who mained iron giant in the beta when he was terrible this makes me very happy

Stripe D tier is nuts

@dippin4dots

Ай бұрын

Yeah D's Nuts!

@oliverorchard6774

Ай бұрын

Yeah, high C or low B is more accurate.

@mattnic001

Ай бұрын

He is ass dude stop coping

Ngl Garnets are scary to fight some actually realize you can just yeet an opponent off stage freely

I can’t tell if Shaggy is really good, just easy to play, if I’m good at using him, or if my opponents sucked. But I had just had a long run of like 10 matches and I won 7 or 8. And no rematches too

@delfinner2212

27 күн бұрын

Shaggy is actually really good, he has a ladder combo that kills at 45%, his kicks are lethal and I'm pretty sure that you can just go up tilt, up air and up special and it just kills at like 50% it's madness and he's just overall really good and has no actual weaknesses, he even has a projectile, like Shaggy is definetly low to mid S tier

I feel like you should distinguish that it's a 1v1 tier list, because it does a disservice to the 2v2 format that some of these characters are built for

He forgot to put me in S tier

@paulbrown9328

Ай бұрын

Hey I know you 😂, didn’t expect to see you in this comment section. You play smash or multiversus?

@Broccoli2001

Ай бұрын

No your ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss+ tier

@JustGavinBennett

Ай бұрын

@@paulbrown9328 Both! I've always been into Smash Bros, but having a lot of fun on Mulitversus right now

@paulbrown9328

Ай бұрын

@@JustGavinBennett Nice multiversus is pretty fun and you do deserve to be in S tier. I wish you well with your KZread endeavors.

Jason is atleats b if not A. People don't use his teleport right. They use it to reposition or chase but you really need to use it in a combo for your 3rd hit instead of the grab you can chain them all the way off the stage into one final teleport into a down special and they're gone before they can even react

@naxmerr7274

Ай бұрын

You are wrong ❤️

That stripe disrespect is crazy, atleast B teir. His combo routes are simple and gun still kills easy as a combo ender

damn i missed watching you youre so enjoyable to watch fr

I use to be a god at Jake in the alpha and beta. When i replayed him on launch i thought i was just playing terribly bad, then everyone i've seen has said Jake has been brutally nerfed :((

are you gonna do more tournaments for this

I don’t know who to pick there’s so many mixed reviews who should I get

Ｓにいるロボットみたいなやつってどうやったら手に入ります？

The I haven't see this fighter tier list

Glad Steven is finally getting some love. The 1.0 update was definitely good to him

Ngl after seeing Evo champ/dev Nakat's tier list its bery interesting to see Hbox's reasoning for his placements. But i am glad good players are saying Bugs id not S tier hes top of a or A tier quality character.

Tom and Jerry is far too slept on

@Karma0917

Ай бұрын

Hate those mfers and their ping pong paddle 😂

@xAuraNinja

Ай бұрын

Tom and Jerry is S tier when used properly i swear down. I don't have tom and jerry unlocked but every tom and jerru I've thought has been very skilled

@cheese4825

Ай бұрын

​@@xAuraNinjaI wouldn't consider running away from every encounter and spamming ranged moves "skilled."

@DukeofSpook.

Ай бұрын

@@cheese4825 well if youre getting hit by someone spamming the same thing, the skill issue is in your court. someone skilled on t & j cannot beat good players with spam, its so easily to play around if you know what theyre going to do

@cheese4825

Ай бұрын

@@DukeofSpook. I've beaten Tom and Jerry spammers. I never said I lost. They are just annoying.

Taz A tier is crazy

@Spimany

Ай бұрын

I think he’s bottom of B tier at best… he had some really drastic changes to his kit that have made him much worse than he was before the beta ended

@mikehurt3290

Ай бұрын

I think taz is underrated, his side special still pretty decent and his up special is pretty much a guarante kill if they're over 100 points

@TheMightyBone

Ай бұрын

Yea Taz isn't horrible because he can rush down a lot of low tiers but he just gets outspaced/prioritzed in my experience by anyone good who rushes him - you just can land any attacks on fast characters. Maybe it's different LAN but online Taz is a real mixed bag. Side and Up special are good but a good player will just plan and avoid them and you don't have anything in neutral after that to eat a character like Joker or the ridiculously easy execution that is Shaggy (Shaggy kick is tornado but he has it constantly and can make it 2x stronger than tornado with charge.)

@kidfury1114

Ай бұрын

​@@Spimanylike what

@dog7426

Ай бұрын

Idk man, Taz’s edge guarding game is kinda nuts.

Finally Iron Giant is getting the recognition he deserves. I've day oned him since beta and he feels AMAZING rn

Stripe/Spike might as well be the same character from both movies, to the point I get their names mixed up all the time

What tournament are they referring to?

They straight up removed iron giant

Tom being B is actually insane.

Food for thought, Tier lists are not be-all-end-all reviews of characters. I know it shouldn't have to be said, but some people will take a look at this and say "I should never play Velma." But she's just as capable of winning matches, it's that she requires more setup than others in order to do similar things. It's not that she doesn't have any advantages. She's actually kinda fun with a 2v2 partner that you're communicating with and you can bully some characters into just not being able to play. She also has a semi-ranged ledge-covering tool that spikes with her down-attack on the ground, which is actually pretty safe due to the distance her hurtbox is from the active word-bubble hitbox. Like anyone offstage is either going to have to trade and if they try to airdodge through you, you can catch them with a turnaround side-light and start another combo from there. She's got options....but other characters just have more / easier to use options. Black adam can just carry you off the top of the screen with his up attacks and his full movement flight recoveries canceled into even more up-attacks. Really, what's being rated here isn't how capable a character is of being played, but how much work you need to do to setup your gameplan as that character. There's also a tons of little matchup variances where some characters just poop on others. Jake kinda gets bullied by characters like Harley for example, but he makes characters like Wonder Woman, superman, and Iron Giant cry because he's just got so much range and they lack the mobility to really pressure him when he's just chuckin' out aimed F-airs. But that alone doesn't maker wonderwoman outright bad. She still has one of the meatiest F-airs herself, and her side combo does some low-profile stuff which makes her great for chaining against smaller characters like Marvin, who can walk under some people's side/neutrals like they just don't exist, even without crouching. Just remember at the end of the day to play who you enjoy. Cheesy, probably overstated, but still.

@flashbackfrank8781

Ай бұрын

All that out of the way, This tier list feels about right.. There's some places where it makes perfect sense, others where I'm going to need to see more to really get why they're where they're at here. I'm no pro player, I've only got 500-ish wins under my belt, so please don't beat me to death for this. But the take of "We haven't seen them maybe they're bad" isn't entirely true. Velma has some potential, I feel. she just has some weird mechanics that keep her from being super easy to pick up and play. A good way to think of her is kind of like a weird zoner-support in 2v2, and in 1v1's she ends up having to use her stubby Fair for mobile pressure and her side-attacks on ground for coverage since you can delay them a ton and dodge out of recovery to make it safe. Her Neutral attack on ground or air, when charged, tracks to ALLIES hit with her neutral B, then causes herself and them to explode when she charges enough to make the beam from her megaphohe make contact. In 2v2's she reduces cooldowns with her buffs, and while it might not seem like much, it could be the difference between getting having those options and not. Like if you play with someone who uses a LOT of cooldowns, that could be a daymaker for them. In 1v1's Velma does suffer and has to do too much for too little. But if she had a bit more range on Fair attack and make her forward special on the ground have a followup for after the throw, she'd be easy B IMO.

@LayIowAlo

Ай бұрын

Thank you for the input 🫡

@flashbackfrank8781

Ай бұрын

@@LayIowAlo Ayy~ Sorry. Didn't mean to be preachy or anything. I just kinda enjoyed Velma, and have been playing pretty well with her against a few specific characters. Her matchups REALLY hurt though. Like rick? Shuts her down hard. He just does everything she does, but better and with more reach, though his Fair isn't quite as good....but that might just be me. His always just feels weird whereas I can float forward then back then forward again then release the flashlight more consistently. Like doing little fakeout charging float attacks. But he does WAY better in the long range department by FAR. And his recovery? I'd KILL to have his recovery on a couple of different characters, actually lol. She's surprisingly competent vertically though. Her Dair's reach can be a hassle but her up-air lightbulb attack is kinda solid. She can ladder and do some decent damage with it, though she certainly needs more "reps" to kill than say, Harley or iron giant.

@EdgieAlias

Ай бұрын

Who tf is gonna read all that

@ART3M1S

Ай бұрын

Skill issue

Stripe in D tier is insane. He’s at least a A tier, when you know how to do his combos and with the chainsaw it’s crazy

Stripe is A tier once u get good with him

Rick slept on 😤

Is this the singles tier list or a doubles? I only play singles.

Damn Iron Giant really has had a comeback since beta. I recall people saying he was the absolute worst character in the game before it shut down.

@godotgaming248

Ай бұрын

isn’t it like 99% bc of loops?

@godotgaming248

Ай бұрын

nvm just watched the video

@RuneTacticss

Ай бұрын

He still is really bad, don't let this tier list fool you

@nasirulrich2148

Ай бұрын

​@RuneTacticss legit every pro player saying he's s tier and the second highest win rate in the game right now

@RuneTacticss

Ай бұрын

@@nasirulrich2148 Maybe I'm 2s biased but in 2s he is complete garbage

I tried to tell ppl that iron giant no joke

We should make a tier for the Servers, F. Thats where id put it.

i'm playing stripe atm he seems quite underrated to me.

Bro, this list blows

Marvin so underrated

I JUST started playing the game and Im 13-0 with Shaggy online play. Smash has taught me well.

As a Gaenet main i give her B-tier ... shes easy to read BUT she has options for everything youbwant and if you can consistently get rhythm and shock effects your team will eat

I feel like we need to asterisk this list because of how early it is, like I don’t think the boys are wrong/talking bullshit in anyway but it’s soooooooo early I literally haven’t seen some of the characters in match making yet

Honnestly, Stripe is really good! Easy A for me. Even with gun changes. Jump on your skate/chomp or anything and shoot without distance restrictions and projectile time travel is really OP. The chainsaw dude! So powerful too...

Someone finally giving love to gizmo

i thought you were gonna focus on melee juan

I just started playing the game again since Jason Voorhees was added, I'm gonna solo main him, I'm a horror fan fanatic.

They balanced this game like shit even after an entire year

@tloz171nfs

Ай бұрын

What they did to Velma after barely touching Bugs, WW and Harley is HEINOUS

@hunterxxo9584

Ай бұрын

@@tloz171nfs TALK THAT🗣

@stone_est19xx50

Ай бұрын

Youll never have a completely even balanced roster. Too much diversity & movesets

@theCvnnxn

Ай бұрын

Thank you. This gameplay is horrible. Worse state the game has been in

@theCvnnxn

Ай бұрын

@@tloz171nfs this is what I’ve been saying!!!! They buffed those characters and literally nerfed all the others.

closed video as soon as stripe went D he got nerfed hard but not hard enough to be D

I have a question ⁉️ would you like to see Lola bunny because i want her in game so bad 😞

@savage2393

Ай бұрын

That would be awesome 😎

I got a 16 win streak in 1v1 with Banana Guard and for that i will always love my pottasium boi

Wooooo!

Taz>Tom is kinda crazy to me

Imagine making a teir list and not ranking all the characters where is Agent Sniff? 10/10 Mr Hungrybox i shame you and will subscribe and watch more of your content! Keep Up The Good Work!!

@Spyder-Marth

Ай бұрын

Aaaah yes, Agent *SNIFF*

I feel like you don’t see as many characters cuz you can’t even get that many characters without straight buying them. Would love to play other than 4 characters

Arya seems kinda high at A. I’m not denying her kill potential but I’m just not sure if she’s worth the effort when you can play Harley.

Bro I matched up with an iron giant that had 3012 wins and did a guaranteed combo at the start that I couldn’t get out of at all until I die and respawn bros broken

Why is marvin at C , he just keep pushing me up and shoot and I can’t do anything about it

Jason at C is crazy

Stripe I wouldn't put in D Tier, he's got some interesting tools to use like the sawblade and the dynamite, plus some great aerials. Not great, but at least C-B tier, D is just too low. He isn't Velma bad. Gizmo was shocking to me, in the beta he felt pretty weak but now he feels so much better and stronger.

I main Taz and I think A tier is wild

Finn is propped up bc of what he USED to be. He is bottom of B at the most. Also, something has went wrong with your tierlist when there is more S tier than any other 😂

@baer5137

Ай бұрын

Finn feels like ASS to play rn

Garnet C tier is wild

I think a big reason we don’t see Velma’s is because we’re still in the first rotation of free characters, and no new players are going to buy Velma. There’s too many more enticing options, and Joker being the newest and most expensive, players aren’t going to use the little currency they can earn to buy Velma. I got her in the beta, I think she’s going to take off in the future once people realize how high her skill cap, but we shall see.

@avgoldhead7207

Ай бұрын

Makes sense to me when you put it that way about Velma.

@johnmokeypants2753

Ай бұрын

or because they removed megaphone but thats just a wild guess

@jaybird3371

Ай бұрын

@@johnmokeypants2753 they nerfed it, it no longer covers the entire map. Still a good ability, though it could be a little longer. She’s got plenty of other range based moves.

@lubee5200

Ай бұрын

Well I main Velma and will be streaming soon. I can say she is D tier but she has some things.

@FGenthusiast0052

Ай бұрын

Not even because that. People that played beta most got Velma either because liked her (my case) or just had all characters. Reason you don't see her is because her nerfs were massive, there's not many ways for her to get in, and all her attacks are very stubby with little to none kill power. In singles, she basically has to play the game of the opponent because she can't force others to her things like before. Teams she's slightly better, but why would you use her when other characters can give better support or better fire power. Literally her time of terror is over

What does it mean when he says "IG, even without the infinite". What is infinite

@RedMooseJesus

Ай бұрын

Infinite means an Infinite combo, which typically means the character can spam one or two of its moves and continue to combo you infinitely by doing so. "Without the Infinite " implies the character used to have one but was nerfed and no longer does.

Quite a fun game but still not real contender to challenge smash it’ll probably keep my interest for like a month or so

I personally feel like Garnet is slept on. She has good damage and with the right perks you can literally grab someone and fly off the stage for an instant kill.

Thought this is a children’s game, then I got hooked 😂

Stripe is bottom B tier. He has great combos and always threatens off stages with his gun but lacks projectiles and tech to push him to top spots. He gets diffed by a lot of the upper tiers.

I definitely put Taz at A tier a 💯

nah why on earth is Stripe in D

I can 0 to death Iron Giant on certain stages

idk I seen Onlyza streaming with shaggy he raw asf

"haven't seen them/played them" is wild to give an honest rank....

If I had a nickel for everytime joker was top tier in a platform fighter, I’d have 2 nickels…

Joker is broken AF I love playing as him and Jonkling everyone

Stripe don't feel bad at all at least to me

can’t wait to only use harley again (maybe joker) 😮‍💨

@CitiesOfAsh

Ай бұрын

Meta slave 🤢🤮

Garnet slaps I found a zero-to-death combo with her today.

@NyquiliiGii

Ай бұрын

They don't not that instant down smash we gotta keep her low key

I play LeBron and Rick is there something wrong with me 😭😭😭

Bro put bugs at A and Gizmo at S, i think i seen enough

@jaydiism

Ай бұрын

Gizmo is absolutely better than bugs

I dont get the marvin hate at all, i think hes a slept on character albeit not exceptionally good like bugs and joker. Hes pretty fun, especially in doubles.

@kotasake

Ай бұрын

Fun isn't a factor in tier list

@Karma0917

Ай бұрын

@@kotasakeI mean you can’t have fun if you’re losing all the time cus of a shitty character, so it kinda does

@kotasake

Ай бұрын

@@Karma0917 shitty characters can be fun. I'm a raindog main since closed beta. Terrible character but he's fun

@Karma0917

Ай бұрын

@@kotasake fair enough, I have fun with shaggy because he’s good and easy asf to use 😂

Seems like this game has a pretty balanced meta. Too bad the game has tons of greedy microtransactions and slow gameplay.

@doug2555

Ай бұрын

Bro it's not even that slow have you played it 😭 old MVS was so fast that it wasn't even about reaction time it was just lowkey throwing out random shit and guessing. Still was fun in beta but holy shit the game is like a proper fighter now without people flying across the screen with constant invincibility in instant moves

@sauce5097

Ай бұрын

​@@doug2555 The problem was the dodge spam, not the game speed. They decided to tone down the dodges (which is good) but they also went overboard with the speed reduction

@tntmaster7869

Ай бұрын

It's a free game, so there's gonna be micro transactions

@kotasake

Ай бұрын

​@@tntmaster7869yea doesn't mean they have to be so predatory. Especially from a multi billion dollar corp

@dahomie253

Ай бұрын

⁠@@sauce5097overboard is an exaggeration imo

Im a Velma main. Even got toasts from a match i played yesterday

Let me find out yall really have IG at top 1 in game..

Marvin is easily A tier u can fight from far and up close he has a bunch of projectiles playing on the field

Bro tom and jerry need to be S tier like i just win every match when i play whit him

Tbh Jason is atleast A,he has a good kill potential

@vass.mp4812

Ай бұрын

He also good at getting juggled

@warpharenx5227

Ай бұрын

Jason is a beast unless going up against ridiculously fast characters.

Taz in anywhere but F is crazy

As a Joker main, I knew right off the bat the moment I tried him out that he was going to be top tier. That character is cracked

I feel like we haven't seen a lot of the characters because people still have to unlock them

Rick is High A any day, at a high skill level rick is a threat

This list is a crime wtf bro

Banana guard is for the people that dont want to get good

Jake, Jason, and Rick main here :(

I havent even downloaded the game yet why tf am i looking at tierlists😂