MTG Top 10: The WORST Black Cards EVER Printed | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 440

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  • @Zendrig
    @Zendrig2 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is pretty good with the following commander ability: "1UB Tap: Target player gains control of target instant or sorcery spell". The only downside is that this ability does not yet exist.

  • @DimT670

    @DimT670

    2 жыл бұрын

    It absolutely looks like it shall soon will tho. And I can't wait

  • @golgariguy

    @golgariguy

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can cast it with Hive Mind on the field and wreck your opponent's hands :)

  • @SultaiGuy

    @SultaiGuy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Demonstrate mechanic

  • @smashflame2136

    @smashflame2136

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mystical Refpanel in mtg would be epic

  • @arthurvandenbergh1881

    @arthurvandenbergh1881

    2 жыл бұрын

    Make it “target opponent” and it’s a great card

  • @Trisket
    @Trisket2 жыл бұрын

    Nizzahon with the audacity of putting Chimney Pimp on a "bad" cards list. It's a 1/2 for 5 with evasion, a death trigger forcing your opponent to top deck redundancy, and it kills incoming Birds of Paradise. The look on your opponent's face when you turn one play Polluted Delta, fetch Underground Sea, cast Mox Jet, tap both for black, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, Demonic Tutor for and cast Black Lotus, crack for triple black, cast Lion's Eye Diamond, cast Yawgmoth's Will, crack Diamond for triple black while Will is on the stack, replay Lotus and Diamond, cracking both for triple black, cast both Dark Rituals again, Demonic Tutor for Chimney Imp, cast it, pass turn, take 10 mana burn, is priceless. They know they are staring down a 20 turn clock, and they don't stand a chance.

  • @Sentralkontrol

    @Sentralkontrol

    2 жыл бұрын

    mana burn hasn't been a mechanic since like 2012?

  • @caseywellington4761

    @caseywellington4761

    2 жыл бұрын

    Top comment, right here

  • @AlejandroGarcia-uz3ne

    @AlejandroGarcia-uz3ne

    2 жыл бұрын

    Chimney Pimp hoses cmc 0 and greater, best card.

  • @banditkeithkingofduelmonsters

    @banditkeithkingofduelmonsters

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sentralkontrol Or 2008 maybe.

  • @Sentralkontrol

    @Sentralkontrol

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters Yeah it's 2008. I started playing right when mana burn was changed. Don't know why i didn't remember. Probably because I was 9

  • @oh_gosh
    @oh_gosh2 жыл бұрын

    One with Nothing has a ton of defenders because it's so obviously bad that people have tried to make it work for years. It's a badass card because every card with a single line of rules text usually is. I'm a fan, but yeah, it's really bad.

  • @fosterdawson7339

    @fosterdawson7339

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pot of greed would like to have a word

  • @midnightbard3935

    @midnightbard3935

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! The beauty in simplicity. A single line of text baffling the minds of thousands for years. This card is epic.

  • @goober784

    @goober784

    2 жыл бұрын

    My friend has a lazav, the multifarious deck that it could *maybe* work in very situationally

  • @randomusername1735

    @randomusername1735

    2 жыл бұрын

    And the flavor text is cool,

  • @lillehei
    @lillehei2 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is the "Meme" card in your deck. You put it in your edh discard/reanimation deck and smirk as you say "I'm casting one with nothing" and watch as everyone at the table looks at you strange. Then if you manage to win you take the deck apart and never use it again because it's done.

  • @mulder1979

    @mulder1979

    2 жыл бұрын

    Achievement unlocked! :-D

  • @malte54

    @malte54

    2 жыл бұрын

    Joke's on you now! With Containment Construct one with nothing is a potential turn two 4x hollow one / vengevine combo piece!

  • @upartyslimak5859
    @upartyslimak58592 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing has propably highest approval rating among all of bad magic cards. It's so popular thanks to the Rhystic Studies' mini-documentary.

  • @kujasan
    @kujasan2 жыл бұрын

    Back in the day, chimney imp sent me into a real crisis. i was like "there must be an application that i don't see. this is a powerful set with great cards... i must not see something. am i a bad player for not seeing what the idea with this card is????"

  • @ChazTheYouthful
    @ChazTheYouthful2 жыл бұрын

    Holy heck I remember a friend pulling Veldrane, and we all gathered around to look at a new vampire lord, and everyone just kind of taking it in and going "wait that sucks."

  • @SCKentrol
    @SCKentrol2 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing Fatal Mutation, and thinking along the lines, "this would be great in limited!" back when I was middle school. Then I realized how little morph was used in the Onslaught block, and it didn't even prevent the flip effect from happening! Never once used it, and I don't think anyone at in our play circles did either

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp20592 жыл бұрын

    "One With Nothing" is the ultimate card for the "Akshually" brigade that tries to appear smart and intellectual by arguing how this obviously bad card is not really bad if you look at it like a Very Smart magic player. But your comparisons destroy their point. If you genuinely believe One With Nothing is a good card, you also have to argue that Rites of Initiation and Sacred Rites are even better cards, yet those cards are abandoned and forgotten by the entire community.

  • @TheShinyFeraligatr

    @TheShinyFeraligatr

    2 жыл бұрын

    The real eternal issue with OWN is that it will forever be cucked from relevance by the fact that, you know, Lion's Eye Diamond exists. And does what it does for cheaper with additional upside, at the same speed.

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER22 жыл бұрын

    The thing with One With Nothing is that there still exists an unlikely possibility that in the future another card will be printed that will lead to it become a broken combo piece. One day, maybe. Or maybe not. Meanwhile, it is still so bizarre that puts it above any random uninspired inefficient creature. Shame that Mold Demon is unplayable, because its art is bonkers.

  • @frankvandorp2059

    @frankvandorp2059

    2 жыл бұрын

    The thing is, Rites of Initiation and Sacred Rites will also become broken combo pieces that way. Apart from the color, those are both strictly better.

  • @abderianagelast7868

    @abderianagelast7868

    2 жыл бұрын

    Funny enough, I accidentally made a custom card that works well with One With Nothing. It's not broken or anything, but it offers some utility. It's a Grixis commander that replaces draws with drawing two cards and discarding a random card from your hand, and when anyone discards a card they exile it and can play it from exile. But when your opponents cast spells that way, you get a copy. Like I said, it's not even very good with him, but the fact that I would seriously consider it is a good sign at least.

  • @TheShinyFeraligatr

    @TheShinyFeraligatr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Such combos already exist, the problem is that people don't use One With Nothing for them, they instead use the 0 mana artifact that gives you 3 mana and also discards your hand.

  • @abderianagelast7868

    @abderianagelast7868

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheShinyFeraligatr But LED costs a lot of money

  • @DDDHunter

    @DDDHunter

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@abderianagelast7868 Prosper + Containment Construct

  • @TheMajesticYak0
    @TheMajesticYak02 жыл бұрын

    Murk Dwellers wasn't completely awful in the early days of magic when it came out. It actually paired well with Tawnos Wand or Dwarven Warriors, both which could make a 2 power creature unlockable, which let the Dwellers get in for 4 instead. Still not the best, but respectable back in the day.

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax13752 жыл бұрын

    I'm not defending One with Nothing or One with Death, but I think that a strategy that uses Hive Mind with them would be fun. Infernal Denizen is also a pretty bad black card

  • @BCWasbrough

    @BCWasbrough

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know it's bad when your best strategy with the card is to trick your opponent into casting it.

  • @altromonte15

    @altromonte15

    2 жыл бұрын

    One With Nothing + Sudden Substitution is hilarious, especially if you can bring them back from the graveyard

  • @andyspendlove1019

    @andyspendlove1019

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just Wheel + Narset and draw a bunch of cards along with your two-card combo that makes your opponents discard their hands 😆

  • @shuboy05
    @shuboy052 жыл бұрын

    Wow, the Drew Tucker art on Murk Dwellers is something you'll never see again on modern Magic cards.

  • @holdinmcgroin8639

    @holdinmcgroin8639

    2 жыл бұрын

    same with mold demon

  • @mjddjm96

    @mjddjm96

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's one of the few things I dislike about modern magic. The art just feels so much less vibrant in general.

  • @shuboy05

    @shuboy05

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mjddjm96 I honestly miss the Foglios in Magic. Phil and Kaja had such a unique art style that might have been too cartoony for some but I will always remember the art they drew. And I still have a few of their cards.

  • @ItsDangerousGoAlone
    @ItsDangerousGoAlone2 жыл бұрын

    With number 1, your opponent can also turn face up in response of it being on the stack, meaning you have to use that card when they cant pay the cost too.

  • @bigtimetimmyjim6486
    @bigtimetimmyjim64862 жыл бұрын

    I believe the Mindless Null mistake was actually caught before the set was sent to the printers, but R&D thought that the card was both hilarious and flavorful so it remained 3 mana .

  • @dargatan6301
    @dargatan63012 жыл бұрын

    2 things 1. Glad to see Zuko got his own magic card 2. Flavour text on Numai outcast... wow, what a burn, appropriate though

  • @matthewbeard7841
    @matthewbeard78412 жыл бұрын

    It might be a bad card, but as Rhystic Studies put it, "It's Magic's *best* worst card". You know what card I'm talking about.

  • @Titanreaver616

    @Titanreaver616

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was going to say the same thing. Its one of my favorite videos of his, because its the most relatable to me. I spent so long trying to think of ways to make it good but, alas, never did and probably never will.

  • @TheyCallHimPogo
    @TheyCallHimPogo2 жыл бұрын

    "Our parade of terribly inefficient creatures" I don't know why that made me laugh so hard.

  • @ohuckabee
    @ohuckabee2 жыл бұрын

    One with Nothing is a single card in a physical game that encompasses the video game phenomena of "kusoge" incredibly well: It's bad, you know it's bad, you know WHY it's bad, but there's still something compelling about it that keeps it in your mind and - dare I say - makes you enjoy it. Personally I'm kind of fond of Nameless Race, since when the creatures types were revamped some time back, it didn't get a creature type - that is to say, it's *mechanically* a nameless race. There's no practical advantage to that, but hey. Nameless!

  • @movezig5
    @movezig52 жыл бұрын

    You could have _at least_ put One With Nothing at number 10. Decks that sideboarded One With Nothing may not have done well in tournaments, but at least it was _used_ in tournaments, which, I'm willing to bet, is more than can be said for Murk Dwellers.

  • @mightyfp

    @mightyfp

    2 жыл бұрын

    With the update to zombie dwellers sees a much more play in old school zombie tribal. When it's swampwalking and hitting for 4 it's on curve

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom39902 жыл бұрын

    Black was my first favourite colour. How could it not be when you first played? Direct kills, discards, sure it drained you a bit for "ultimate power" Turns out I'm a Gruul Red/Green player but I still have a soft spot for black.

  • @darkmatter32x

    @darkmatter32x

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go jund.

  • @zKrustenkaese
    @zKrustenkaese2 жыл бұрын

    Surprised to not see Bog Hoodlums on this list. 6 mana for a black 4/1 creature that can't block and clashes for a +1/+1 counter. It get's even worse when you consider that it was in the same set as Nath's Elite a green 5 mana 4/2 that clashes for a +1/+1 counter and has "all creatures able to block it have to do so". That's still bad, but still way better than the the Hoodlums

  • @BrotherAlpha
    @BrotherAlpha2 жыл бұрын

    I really thought One With Nothing got a Top 8 in a side board once. I stand corrected.

  • @Methylimidazol
    @Methylimidazol2 жыл бұрын

    I love how you treat One With Nothing like a serious Magic card and the players who defend it like serious people.

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha. Even with all the extra discussion of why it is bad, lots of people in the comments are pretty sure it's the best card ever.

  • @fidly4
    @fidly42 жыл бұрын

    "One with nothing has defenders and I don't understand why" This suggests the deeply disturbing possibility that Nizzahon DOESN'T WATCH RHYSTIC STUDIES' VIDEOS 😱

  • @freddycupples1448

    @freddycupples1448

    2 жыл бұрын

    First thing that came to mind. I love that channel.

  • @upartyslimak5859

    @upartyslimak5859

    2 жыл бұрын

    or he is just avoiding mentioning them, as he's playing expert role. Mentioning them (they are awesome, I know) still makes the risk, someone will go and watch that movie instead of binge-watch whole Nizzahon's library

  • @lanychabot-laroche135
    @lanychabot-laroche1352 жыл бұрын

    Was really expecting Bog Hoodlums and Dripping Dead to share a spot. 6 mana for a 4/1 that can't block and trades with any 1 drop is bad bad bad.

  • @spawnofmelkor
    @spawnofmelkor2 жыл бұрын

    For One With Nothing, I keep hoping that they make a creature with Flash and the ability "When this creature enters the battlefield, until end of turn cards you discard due to the effect of an Instant or Sorcery have Madness 0."

  • @TheDarkHumour
    @TheDarkHumour2 жыл бұрын

    The art for Nameless Race implies Zuko had a twin o.O

  • @theblanklogo

    @theblanklogo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Poor Zuko. Only getting the wrong kind of recognition.

  • @tehsavage
    @tehsavage2 жыл бұрын

    Also I took a reanimator chimney imp deck to an FNM years ago during extended. Oversold Cemetery for Imp Recursion, sacking it to Carrion feeder for a hand lock. Went 4-1. Those were the days.

  • @coooolibri
    @coooolibri2 жыл бұрын

    lol, went through my collection and the only black dark dark I have is the murk dwellers :D always love to check out your vids!

  • @remhach2548
    @remhach25482 жыл бұрын

    The illustration of "Fatal Mutation" is so cool. XD

  • @WestPictures
    @WestPictures2 жыл бұрын

    7:49 existential crisis moment

  • @rfs8194
    @rfs81942 жыл бұрын

    Amazing that Chittering Rats and Chimney Imp were commons from the same block.

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna84942 жыл бұрын

    Playing the worst black cards is at least a flavorwin. Black has always been big on suicide and these cards are powerful tools for achieving that goal.

  • @strawhataddison
    @strawhataddison2 жыл бұрын

    The guy on Quagmire is doing the Thriller dance!

  • @gantzisballs
    @gantzisballs2 жыл бұрын

    During the early days of Facebook, there was a fan club devoted to His Majesty the Chimney Imp!

  • @darwiniusrex111
    @darwiniusrex1112 жыл бұрын

    Idea for a list: Top 10 creatures with awesome design, but awful development. Basically creatures you'd really want to see reprinted, but slightly upped in power level so that they would actually see play.

  • @troythewizard9940
    @troythewizard99402 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for addressing One With Nothing. You dismantled the second "pro argument" very clearly.

  • @amarauk9687
    @amarauk96872 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is supposedly a way for reanimator decks to put big creatures in the bin to reanimate in case you don't have a discard outlet on the board already. It costs only 1 black and is instant, so you can also prevent the opponents from exiling cards from you hand and in case you play with ad nauseam it's another card that you draw out of the deck with minimal life loss. It's a meme card ofc but I always have 1-2 "free" spots in my decks for the memes

  • @gerudo4sale861
    @gerudo4sale8612 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is great when I don't feel like playing the game and want to lose quickly

  • @faerie7dragon
    @faerie7dragon2 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping for some comment along the lines of "One particularly disturbed individual is running Fatal Mutation in their deck..."

  • @phoebehamilton8957
    @phoebehamilton89572 жыл бұрын

    The thing with One With Nothing is that it’s always just one broken interaction away from becoming playable. Every time a new discard synergy is printed, everyone starts theorycrafting one with nothing with it. In that way I think it has a great amount of value as a card and conversation piece and shouldn’t be in contention for worst card of all time. Edit: It’s also one of the better spells to cast with Hive Mind

  • @morganmonroe2932
    @morganmonroe29322 жыл бұрын

    In One With Nothing's defense, casting it on turn one in dredge feels sooooo gooood!

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not as good as Bazaar of Baghdad, or Putrid Imp, or Faithless Looting, or Goblin Lore, or... you get the point.

  • @Acrocanthosaurus
    @Acrocanthosaurus2 жыл бұрын

    When you have explained Takklemaggot to my satisfaction, then and only they will I subscribe to your channel. Haha, they say it can't be done.

  • @davidlundquist1979

    @davidlundquist1979

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, Takklemaggot should have been on this list. It's a four mana removal spell that kills VERY slowly, and when it's finally done it's job, then your opponent gets to choose on of your creatures to use it on! I'd play Chimney Imp or One With Nothing over that any day.

  • @kegluneqs1011
    @kegluneqs10112 жыл бұрын

    How to win with one with nothing: play "barren glory" then on the next turn "obliterate" or "decree of anhilation" and maintaining priority "one with nothing". You win the game at the next upkeep

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to Magical Christmas Land!

  • @kegluneqs1011

    @kegluneqs1011

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NizzahonMagic 🤣you mean jank land ?

  • @fei-hungwong9034
    @fei-hungwong9034 Жыл бұрын

    Was expecting one with death to show up on the list as an entry, rather than just being mentioned :o

  • @erlanddrow7950
    @erlanddrow79502 жыл бұрын

    Kind of surprised so many people used One with Nothing considering there's no real "Handless" deck strategy. Even in Yu-Gi-Oh where graveyard effects and decks are common, they'd never use this since the card advantage you lose is severe

  • @TheShinyFeraligatr

    @TheShinyFeraligatr

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, it does exist in MtG, there's a legacy deck based on it... whose enabler is Lion's Eye Diamond which does it better. (It also exists in Yugioh, it's just that Infernities don't use their hand discards because why do that when you can just... play out your hand?)

  • @erlanddrow7950

    @erlanddrow7950

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheShinyFeraligatr oh yeah, forgot Lion's Eye Diamond was used for a simaler deck

  • @daniduc
    @daniduc2 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is a Jonny card - it is essentially a Final Boss for Jonnys - if they can make the worst Jonny card ever work, they will be Master Jonny, the Uber Jonny, the Jonny of All Jonnys. The defense comes from attempts and clamins to have achieved this legendary status, but alas, the riddle remains: One with Nothing is not yet defeated. Keep Jonnying, Jonnys!

  • @BrookeFilth

    @BrookeFilth

    2 жыл бұрын

    You will ascend to the grand status of Jonny Goldmane

  • @daniduc

    @daniduc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BrookeFilth 🤣

  • @golgariguy
    @golgariguy2 жыл бұрын

    About Fatal Mutation: the morph can also be turned face up in response, completely blanking your spell...

  • @themanwiththepan
    @themanwiththepan Жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is such a good card because it invites you to theorycraft the game to find a way to make it a combo piece.

  • @thesilentmajority2765
    @thesilentmajority27652 жыл бұрын

    All they had to do for fatal mutation was slap "draw a card" on it and it doesnt look as terrible

  • @09Dragonite
    @09Dragonite2 жыл бұрын

    Cards that combo with One With Nothing: Hive Mind Eye of the Storm Living Death Vampiric Tutor Imperial Seal Worldly Tutor Mystical Tutor Enlightened Tutor Literally any card with Madness, Delve, Flashback, Unearth, Threshhold, Delirium, Dredge I'm not trying to say it is an amazing card, or that it even doesnt belong on your list, but you HAVE to realize that the card has a lot of playability as a combo piece that puts items into your graveyard for basically free. Your graveyard is just a second hand in EDH, and although it is easier to interact with this way, it still works really efficiently if you use your pieces correctly. For an example, playing a creature combo like Triskelion and Mikaeus, you can Vamp Tutor during your upkeep to find Living Death, hold priority on the Tutor and cast One With Nothing to pitch your Mike and Trike, and then draw the Living Death and cast it to start the combo. I know this is a weird scenario, but here's another for you- locking a table out of their hands with Hive Mind or Eye of the Storm. There are ways to play this card that aren't absolutely abominable and it is a little irritating that you still kind of waste time talking about how much you don't like it.

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know that it lets you put things in the graveyard, but I explained in the video that there are dozens of cards that do the same thing -- but do it better. So there's no reason to play a very narrow version of that effect, where all it is a combo piece. If you do that, you're going to lose a lot more games than you would when you play your Putrid Imp.

  • @scienceviking4490
    @scienceviking44902 жыл бұрын

    I know One With Nothing isn't good, but I still like it, because it's an interesting object lesson about how magic works. It does something that, at first blush, seems like it could never possibly be useful, but when paired with madness, dredge, or other discard/graveyard payoffs it actually has a positive effect. Sure other cards do it better, but the fact that One With Nothing can ever be useful illustrates the sheer variety of possible strategies in this game.

  • @mateuszbok4466
    @mateuszbok44662 жыл бұрын

    The best part of Nizzahon videos: "...at least that's what I normally do" :)

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have said that a lot lately. Haha.

  • @kennycharlton7891
    @kennycharlton78912 жыл бұрын

    the art for mold deamon and murk dwellers is fantastic tho

  • @jdl9409
    @jdl94092 жыл бұрын

    Love this series!

  • @Imanmagnet00
    @Imanmagnet0011 ай бұрын

    That one video essay on One with nothing ruined everything.

  • @stepniak18
    @stepniak182 жыл бұрын

    One with Nothing combo for Modern: Turn 1: No maximum hand size land. Turn 2: Steam Vents Turn 3: Steam Vents + Rielle Turn 4: Drowned Catacomb + Spark Double Turn 5: Drowned Catacomb + Jace, Wielder of Mysteries + One with Nothing Turn 6: One with Nothing + One with Nothing = Win the game After spending whole week on trying to win with this combo delete it and never play it again. Edit: Yes you can't draw more than 1 One with Nothing at any given time :D

  • @stebobibo
    @stebobibo2 жыл бұрын

    The one big difference between One with Nothing and the other black discard outlets is that it is an Instant. Being an instant can matter when you want to discard on your opponent's turn. Playing a permanent on your turn leaves it vulnerable to being removed before the turn ends. Sure there are those other colour instants which could be better. But OWN is the only black instant of its kind, and that could matter a lot for your deck (splashing other colours for marginal upside wouldn't make sense).

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    The downside of the card outweighs any benefit it gets from being an Instant.

  • @MrTrellheim
    @MrTrellheim2 жыл бұрын

    I have a soft spot for Murk Dwellers because they gave me one of my earliest wins when me and my friends played with the cards we got from our Fourth Edition starter decks (and maybe a few boosters). Don't make a mistake, the card IS terrible, but I look with fondness to the cards that were part of my first black/red deck and all the afternoons I played them with friends around a kitchen table.

  • @megatenshi
    @megatenshi2 жыл бұрын

    I had a really dumb Nekusar EDH deck that was hardcore built around Hive Mind combos. Totally killed using One With Nothing alongside Megrim type effects

  • @nickw3573
    @nickw35732 жыл бұрын

    At least One With Death is a win con. I play it next to Hive Mind in my group hug deck.

  • @Interesting_Failure
    @Interesting_Failure2 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, One with Death is actually significantly better because if you use it in a Hive Mind/Sudden Substitution combo or some equally stupid setup that results in your opponent controlling a copy on the stack, OwD at least gets you an instant win. And an unconditional one at that! Of course you'd just use Pacts, but shhh.

  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily2 жыл бұрын

    10) At least Murk Dwellers has some good art courtesy of Drew Tucker. I've always liked his abstract style. 9) I think you hit the nail on the head here. One With Nothing is perpetually an answer in search of a question, only relevant in that one niche instance in Standard. 8) I'm so glad you pointed out the Mindless Null mistake! That's one of my favorite pieces of Magic trivia. 7) Knockoff Freddie Mercury! Why does that ability cost a whole 3 mana? 6) Jesper Myrfors, you are not Drew Tucker. 5) The Chimp was a meme on the same level as Storm Crow and Scornful Egotist. Not hard to see why. 4) Pay eight mana to die instantly! Might as well just be a 3/3 with defender. 3) Fun fact: Nameless Race has no creature types. Nameless Inversion was made as a reference to it. 2) It looks like he's doing the Thriller! 1) What's worse, this or Break Open? ...well okay, it's Break Open, but this is still horrible.

  • @kylone1
    @kylone12 жыл бұрын

    I used Veldrane of Segnir. Brother played green. I loved using him so much. Free 2 damage or attack as a 5/5. Thought he was so versatile. Still think Irini Segnir was worse since no one back then played enchant ments. (I think I am the only person who loved Homelands. People complained about over powered cards so they intentionally stopped making them to make the game slower and more fair and then people complained cards were too weak. As someone who was a casual player I like sets like Homelands and Fallen Empires which were brimming with flavor. Yes I know FE has High Tide. No one used it back then due to mana burn.)

  • @Ragnarok2kx
    @Ragnarok2kx2 жыл бұрын

    Just to nitpick on the One with Nothing mention: the idea behind using it against Owling Mine wasn't to deal with damage from the owl. It was meant as an emergency counter to an otherwise lethal Sudden Impact, which the deck used as a finisher.

  • @l0rdka1n
    @l0rdka1n2 жыл бұрын

    This video makes my remember when I was opening packs and got Deathlaces. Uggghhh

  • @nathanl8622
    @nathanl86222 жыл бұрын

    Considering Neon Dynasty's got a bunch of references to OG Kamigawa, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see a card riffing on One With Nothing. ...Oh my god what if it gets a reprint.

  • @spawnofmelkor

    @spawnofmelkor

    2 жыл бұрын

    I keep hoping that they make a creature with Flash and the ability "When this creature enters the battlefield, until end of turn cards you discard due to the effect of an Instant or Sorcery have Madness 0."

  • @SirZapdos
    @SirZapdos2 жыл бұрын

    I seem to remember that Patrick Chapin took a lot of heat for suggesting that Mindless Null was playable in Zendikar limited. Over time, I think people softened on the card. Sure, it's very inefficient, but in such a weird format like triple Zendikar (aggressive like crazy), even Scathe Zombies with downside is fine for the curve.

  • @superbaas8822
    @superbaas88222 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing exists so wizards can say that rares aren't objectively better than commons.

  • @MatheusGomes-ej3mr
    @MatheusGomes-ej3mr2 жыл бұрын

    not even prince Zuko was spared from this list...

  • @pixelbomb97
    @pixelbomb972 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is pretty much the most Johnny card ever. It looks like the most obvious bad card in the world, but if you won in a game where you cast it and got value off of it, that would be the best story.

  • @MarylandBF

    @MarylandBF

    2 жыл бұрын

    Instant threshold

  • @man-qw2xj
    @man-qw2xj2 жыл бұрын

    Nameless race is interesting in that it is a creature without a subtype.

  • @DimT670
    @DimT6702 жыл бұрын

    I hate the art of murk dwellers so much

  • @fredflintstone556

    @fredflintstone556

    2 жыл бұрын

    Drew Tucker's art in general is pretty terrible

  • @zakpodo
    @zakpodo2 жыл бұрын

    Turns out the nameless race is actually the fire nation... 8:50. Who knew?

  • @Clonekiller66
    @Clonekiller662 жыл бұрын

    The people who are likely playing One With Nothing in EDH are doing so as a Joke. It's an awful card, but it's awfulness has made lots of combo fanatics and brewers eager to try and crack it's code. I'd consider it "so bad it's good" Having One With Nothing in your EDH deck becomes a great way to get the whole pod of friends howling with laughter.

  • @xChikyx
    @xChikyx2 жыл бұрын

    Cast hive mind, cast one with nothing, profit Also, Numai Outcast's art is pretty good

  • @derbabo8455
    @derbabo84552 жыл бұрын

    9:16 WHO ELSE BUT QUAGMIRE

  • @dtelad11
    @dtelad112 жыл бұрын

    ... will Nizzahon mention "One with Nothing"? ... YES!!

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, the thumbnail should have answered that pretty quickly!

  • @123456789moification
    @123456789moification2 жыл бұрын

    OMG nameless race features Prince Zuko

  • @happyslapsgiving5421
    @happyslapsgiving54212 жыл бұрын

    Also, you usually don't even know which creature you're using Fatal Mutation on, and the one next to it could be the really dangerous one, anyway.

  • @WLDFLD
    @WLDFLD Жыл бұрын

    update the oracle wording of Murk Dwellers to have Frenzy 2!! also another bad black card is Pretender's Claim

  • @krvys7226
    @krvys72262 жыл бұрын

    As a fan of a specific commander deck, I am so glad "Lich" is not on this list. The card is super risky to play, but so fun to play also

  • @Calintares
    @Calintares2 жыл бұрын

    I think Nameless Race is the only creature in Magic with no subtype

  • @eirh

    @eirh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not for much longer, the newly revealed creature shrines in the next Kamigawa set also don't have a creature type.

  • @Chauntecleer
    @Chauntecleer2 жыл бұрын

    You should do a subjective top ten of magic’s most contentious cards, like one with nothing or dubious challenge, that have some devotees but in general are considered to be awful

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not a bad idea. "AWFUL Cards people Love"

  • @insaned4666
    @insaned46662 жыл бұрын

    One With Nothing was basically for the final outlet for a The Cheese Stands Alone victory (until they printed Barren Glory) … but there’s better ways to do it.

  • @RestoSexual
    @RestoSexual2 жыл бұрын

    One with nothing is such a Philosophical card.

  • @martinrosschou
    @martinrosschou2 жыл бұрын

    One with Nothing is an insane card. 1 black, instant, and discard your entire hand. Yes it may currently just be a downside, but once a setup is found that require either an empty hand and or cards in your graveyard (perhaps specifically discarded from hand), then this is the perfect card. In such a deck you would need 8 such effects. Perhaps it's even lack of similar powerful cards that holds this card back.

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I meant there are decks like this in Vintage. They don't run One With Nothing. The set up has been found, and no one uses it.

  • @martinrosschou

    @martinrosschou

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NizzahonMagic it kinda happened.. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6BsmcyBYLafgKg.html&ab_channel=HarryMTG

  • @vivid.worker
    @vivid.worker4 ай бұрын

    i really saw nizzahon in his best form when he defended one with nothing being an awful card

  • @colebanville3372
    @colebanville33722 жыл бұрын

    I had a deck where I would play hive mind then terrible instant and sorceries and that’s a use for one with nothing

  • @CanadianBaconPwnage
    @CanadianBaconPwnage2 жыл бұрын

    I think some people believe that because cards like One With Nothing have synergistic potential with other powerful mechanics (like Madness), the card CAN'T be considered bad. They are blinded by potential. In the end, individually powerful cards will almost always win you more games than complicated but potentially powerful synergies with a bunch of individually mediocre/bad cards. And if those individually powerful cards happen to have good synergies together, awesome! There's a reason why curving things like "Esika's Chariot" into "Wrenn and Seven" are so powerful, but you don't need to have both in your hand for those cards function stupendously on their own. But hey, even I love a good Timmy combo with cute synergies, so I can't blame people for continuing to defend One With Nothing. It's still a bad card, but one that I'm glad exists.

  • @tomaszurbanowicz1559
    @tomaszurbanowicz15592 жыл бұрын

    Printing One With Nothing in the rare slot was a great decision on WOTC's part. Nobody would ever care about the card if it was a common, but the fact it's a rare is a reason why so many people started to experiment with it

  • @arthropodqueen
    @arthropodqueen2 жыл бұрын

    one with nothing is actually strictly better than all the alternatives because it's instant speed and gets around Cephalid Snitch

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's not what strictly better means, but I suspect you're joking haha

  • @SultaiGuy
    @SultaiGuy2 жыл бұрын

    Harness Infinity, in response, One with Nothing

  • @tym6217
    @tym6217 Жыл бұрын

    But! One With Nothing could be a piece of the puzzle to set up Barren Glory 🤔🤔🤔

  • @SomeOne-bi7qr
    @SomeOne-bi7qr2 жыл бұрын

    the effect of one with nothing isn’t bad, dredge decks in particular would rather have cards in graveyard than in hand, it’s just that it’s outclassed by conflagrate/cathartic reunion

  • @soyouknow8207
    @soyouknow82072 жыл бұрын

    There will also become a magic the gathering like nft card game called Land of Immortals on bsc. Dev wants to make it a physical card game as well.

  • @tehsavage
    @tehsavage2 жыл бұрын

    One of these days man. One of these days One With Nothing will become broken.

  • @naomicoffman1315
    @naomicoffman13152 жыл бұрын

    Numai Outcast would be a lot less terrible if they ditched the ridiculous headdress and blindfold!

  • @yuyano2009
    @yuyano20092 жыл бұрын

    funny i used to run Chimney Imp in my standard deck back then

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