Very, very, very well explained by Yuval Noah Harari. No need to say anything else. I hope many people see this video.

@rezrunnercl

6 ай бұрын

Many scholars who study this issue come to very different conclusions. The war has opened my eyes to MSMBC being filled with Pro Isreal gas lighters. I used to trust Ari and Rachael. They are smart, factual within the context they lay out, and they bring receipts. They don't lie transparently like Fox. They're much smarter and more dangerous. They manipulate. They have a specific agenda and build their facts around it. Like statistics can be made to prove anything if you manipulate the numbers. Which guest is given a platform? Which questions are asked? And most importantly, what information is withheld. Where is the opposing viewpoint? He's "Aris expert," so we are expected to accept his words as fact and wisdom. 😂The history of this conflict is extraordinarily complex. This guy left out a plethora of important facts and faced no intelligent challenge, to the point of being shameful, really. But no pushback. I can't believe I used to trust Ari and Rachel. It took this subject to open my eyes. It's no wonder people are leaving MSM in order to get ANY truthful news about this war. Their "sacred cow" is Isreal. No journalistic ethics whatsoever.

@lora8546

6 ай бұрын

Harari is little more than your typical Jewish propagandist, mythmaker and sophist. Nothing about the reason for the hostage taking which was to force Israel to release at least part of the 6000-8000 Palestinians it has been imprisoning and torturing in inhuman conditions, many of them underage kids who were tried in military courts (the only country in the world with this practice) and many languishing there for decades with hardly any charges against them. Harari's thinking is so limited that he can't recognize that the "concessions" proposed by Israel are not acceptable not only for Hamas but most for Palestinians. He uses the usual propaganda phrases about having Palestinians live a "dignified life" when there's no way that he is not aware that Palestinians live in occupied areas are living in the most undignified conditions thanks to Israel: walls all over their territory, restrictions of movement and obstacles on free travel abroad, trade impediments on exports and imports, access to less water than what Israelis have though Palestinians are sitting on top of aquifers diverted to Israel, prohibitions on visiting the sites of their ancestor homes in Israel, and most important a prohibition on returning to the properties their ancestors owned for ages. Even Palestinians who are citizens of Israel face obstacles, as for example in real estate purchases. So his words about dignity for Palestinians is a pharisaic as they can get. The same applies to his use of the phrase "absolute justice" which in his mind can be applicable solely to Jews. Also he is being stealthily deceitful that it's only Hamas that Israel wants disarmed. Israel has demanded in the peace talks that Palestinians not be permitted to have any military force aside from local police. This is hardly a truly "dignified" solution. For Hamas sleepily watching as Israel disunites the Arab bloc in its support of the Palestinian was unacceptable for the same reason that Israel would hardly sit by idly as some Western countries turned champions of the Palestinian cause. Israelis have shown in the years leading to their independence that they can be just as terroristic in forcing decisions as Hamas today. Their terrorism was the main factor that got the British to leave Palestine far before they left any other colony of theirs. Melber who is Jewish continues recycling the debunked tale of Hamas killing babies. The official list of victims of the 10/7 attack can be found on Haaretz's site on the internet and no infant is listed. Only a few children were killed. As for those burned inside homes there's a question of whether that was done by Hamas which at the most had grenades on them or the IDF who shot indiscriminately and with missiles at homes and cars to root out the Hamas fighters. Obviously neither Harari (as a historian and philosopher) or Melber are capable of being loyal to their professions and stepping outside their Jewish prejudices to discuss what has happened accurately and without fictitious embellishments. Melber's program has always been an hour of primarily propaganda.

@BaderAlkhamees

6 ай бұрын

More lies! The root of this conflict is Israeli occupation of Palestine 🇵🇸 Yuval and other zionists are trying to hide this fact by showing Israel as a normal state which is not the case.

@johhny711

6 ай бұрын

Netanyahu according to Harretz and the Times of Israel was supporting Hamas !! He needs to go .

Thanks Yuval Harai- thanks for speaking for both Israeli and Palestines humans- am my self from Jenin City - a Palestinian city as you know - I condemn Hamas Attacks og Civil Israeli - in same time I Condemn Israel attacks on us Palestinians in Gaza and on West Bank. There must be a peace between us. And We must drink beer on Haifa beach one day and be friends not enemies. شكرا لكلام عن السلام

@lukasmolcic5143

6 ай бұрын

@nextinstitute7824

6 ай бұрын

He is not speaking for the Palestians. Didn't you hear what he says? He wants Israel to be recognised in the Middle East and it's conflicts in the region to end, but the Palestinians don't enter the equation.

@lukasmolcic5143

6 ай бұрын

​@@nextinstitute7824 didn't you hear what he says, he literally said that they need to go back to a peace process with the Palestinians which would enable them to live dignified lives in their homeland

@artyblartyfartblast8465

6 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@lukasmolcic5143 And the gate to Auschwitz stated “work sets you free” Harai speaks with great clarity on many points of history, yet here his frame starts with an Hamas conspiracy If his judgement wasn’t askew on this topic his framing would have started with the Zionist invasion and occupation of Palestine I could only watched a small portion of this video without pulling my hair out If Harai managed to say something humane further in into the video someone please let me know

@artyblartyfartblast8465

6 ай бұрын

@@nextinstitute7824 Bump

You simply do not hear Palestinians saying stuff like this

Netanyahu and Likud should have never propped up Hamas for all these years. Israel's far right and Hamas didn't want peace. And they both got what they wanted, and Israelis and Palestinians have been paying the price for their selfish motives all along!!!!

@Confused2023

6 ай бұрын

This! These (by and large) men really do seem to enjoy playing games, regardless of civilian costs. It’s so depressing. And frankly, I’d like to know why the Arab states have not demanded Hamas not do better for the people of Gaza. Seriously, this is a huge question mark. They could have been creating infrastructure and energy projects to become energy independent and carbon neutral. If Hamas the defacto government had the ability to focus first on the needs of its citizens…I don’t reckon there would be a massive underground bunker / base under the city. I’m made of questions.

@MrMarumari

6 ай бұрын

@ marvin 100% correct

@snarf0596

6 ай бұрын

It's funny how the interviewer didn't push back and say bibi never wanted peace and has done everything to prevent it. Why should we believe if they signed a peace treaty with the Saudis that they would have held up thier end.

So he is magically saying that the talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia was supposed to contain some major concessions for the Palestinian people????? Well that is a new one I am just hearing. So if this is true then the concessions to the Palestinian people should still be in place because supposedly Israel is not at war with the Palestinian people but with Hamas.. also he is saying that the war is not to punish but because Israel knows there will be no peace in the region until Hamas is it doesn't matter if the Palestinians are in a concentration camp oh they can still be peace with the Palestinians in a concentration camps but they cannot be no peace Hamas still operating

@danielacovarrubias8547

6 ай бұрын

By minute 2 it was obvious where he was going, which is down a completely ahistorical interpretation of the situation.

@joker4171

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! I was wondering is it the "concessions" that Netanyahu was showing at the UN?

@oleggold

6 ай бұрын

"Magically"? He is saying like it is.

Dr Harari is a great man.

Again, as a fellow historian, I have to disagree with YNH on one point here: the peace/normalization negotiations with Saudi Arabia (and other Arab/Muslim countries before that) were NOT ABOUT PALESTINIANS, but about business and trade + arms deals and access to sensitive technology (with a special emphasis on Israeli surveillance technology and US civil nuclear technology for Saudi Arabia). The Palestinians were not involved in the discussions and the PA were only asked as an after-thought to throw in some demands, with no official commitment, so that Arab leaders could use that to "pacify" their peoples' concerns about the fate of their Palestinian brothers, and Biden could "pacify" his electorate and call it a human rights and "Peace in the Middle East" win, while arming the Saudis, Emirates, Sudan (!) and Morocco with the latest US arsenal. What this process was doing was repeating THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE as what has been done in the past, and has been the ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM since the very beginning (Balfour declaration): a bunch of outsiders deciding the fate of a people, their lives, livelihoods, their homes and their future, based solely on their own interests, without consulting or involving them. I fully and wholeheartedly agree with YNH here, however, on what constitutes a victory for Israel. Netanyahu does NOT want that kind of victory though, because that would mean him finally ending up in prison, where he'd be if he hadn't used his extremist coalition to stay in power and delay that fate (like a certain Orange Calf is also trying to do).

@dannyfarkas9127

6 ай бұрын

The logic behind the Abraham Accords was that by weakening Iran and strengthening Israel's relations with other Arab countries, it would be easier to eventually push the Palestinians to accept a peace agreement based on compromises. And if you are truly a historian, you should acknowledge that the history of the conflict is alot more complex than the Palestinians try to paint it. One of the main root causes is the fact that the very existence of a Jewish state anywhere in the middle east is a deep offence to radical islam's delicate religious sensibilities.

@SmirkyWaters

6 ай бұрын

@@dannyfarkas9127 Are you even listening to yourself? Imagine if all your neighbors and some rich guys from faraway big cities agreed together that you'd have to give up your home and only live according to their own rules and benefit, would you be ok with it? And yes, the history of the conflict IS a lot more complex than _Israel_ wants to make it. Because the people who refused Israel as a state were not so much the Palestinians, but the neighboring Arab nations using the Palestinian cause as an excuse to further their own geopolitical interests. Yet Israel has always chosen to lump Palestinians with those "Arabs" and punish them instead, in their strife with neighboring states that didn't have much to lose, since Palestinians were going to be the scapegoats anyway, and that's how Israel started its expansion: blame the Palestinians for the sins of the "Arab League" (Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia) and use that as an excuse to take the land left to them by the UN and expel them. Since then, the same subroutine has been on a loop. But looks like Oct. 7 reversed it: now Arab countries are being blamed for what Hamas (still not "the Palestinians") did. Btw, Hamas got in power in Gaza thanks to Netanyahu. Did you know that? He was so scared of peace that he bolstered them against Fatah and the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, as a way to prevent a 2-state solution and so he could us the fear of their extremism to get into power. And this is not some conspiracy theory, this is common knowledge at this point. Read up.

@GillAgainsIsland12

6 ай бұрын

You exposed your TDS predelictions with that ridiculous Orange Calf reference, attempting to lump Netenanyahu with Trump. You also exposed your communist tendencies to imprison political opponents. Keep talking.

@MrMarumari

6 ай бұрын

@@SmirkyWaters excellent analysis

Harari is a brilliant writer and historian.

@lora8546

6 ай бұрын

Harari is little more than your typical Jewish propagandist, mythmaker and sophist. Nothing about the reason for the hostage taking which was to force Israel to release at least part of the 6000-8000 Palestinians it has been imprisoning and torturing in inhuman conditions, many of them underage kids who were tried in military courts (the only country in the world with this practice) and many languishing there for decades with hardly any charges against them. Harari's thinking is so limited that he can't recognize that the "concessions" proposed by Israel are not acceptable not only for Hamas but for most Palestinians. He uses the usual propaganda phrases about having Palestinians live a "dignified life" when there's no way that he is unaware that Palestinians who reside in occupied areas are living in the most undignified conditions thanks to Israel: tall walls all over their territory, restrictions of movement and obstacles on the ease of travel abroad, trade impediments on exports and imports, less access to water than what Israelis have though Palestinians are sitting on top of aquifers diverted to Israel, prohibitions on visiting the sites of their ancestor homes in Israel, and most important a prohibition on returning to the properties their ancestors owned for ages. Even Palestinians who are citizens of Israel face obstacles, as for example in real estate purchases. So his words about dignity for Palestinians is a pharisaic as they can get. The same applies to his use of the phrase "absolute justice" which in his mind can be applicable solely to Jews. Also he is being stealthily deceitful that it's only Hamas that Israel wants disarmed. Israel has demanded in the peace talks that Palestinians not be permitted to have any military force aside from local police. This is hardly a truly "dignified" solution. For Hamas sleepily watching as Israel disunites the Arab bloc in its support of the Palestinian was unacceptable for the same reason that Israel would hardly sit by idly as some Western countries turned champions of the Palestinian cause. Israelis have shown in the years leading to their independence that they can be just as terroristic in forcing decisions as Hamas today. Their terrorism was the main factor that got the British to leave Palestine far before they left any other colony of theirs. Melber who is Jewish continues recycling the debunked tale of Hamas killing babies. The official list of victims of the 10/7 attack can be found on Haaretz's site on the internet and no infant is listed. Only a few children were killed. As for those burned inside homes there's a question of whether that was done by Hamas which at the most had grenades on them or the IDF who shot indiscriminately and with missiles at homes and cars to root out the Hamas fighters. Obviously neither Harari (as a historian and philosopher) or Melber are capable of being loyal to their professions and stepping outside their Jewish prejudices to discuss what has happened accurately and without fictitious embellishments. Melber's program has always been an hour of primarily propaganda.

@There-ought-to-be-clowns

6 ай бұрын

Understatement

@sea2959

6 ай бұрын

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For a brain as intelligent as Yuval Hariri, it's lamentable that he's so selective in his analysis of the conflict. For one, he asserts that what triggered this latest cycle of violence i.e. the normalization of relations with the Saudis would have been followed by renewed peace negotiations with the Palestinians. If the Israelis aim in normalising relations with Saudi Arabia was to bring about peace with the Palestinians, why not have invited them to the talks with the Saudis. No, what Israel wanted by singing agreements with the Arab world, apart from increased trade, was to sideline Palestinians and make it less problematic for Israel when it completes the ongoing ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. He laments the presence of the far right parties in the Netanyahu government, neclecting to point out that their constituents in illegal settlements in the West Bank daily harass Palestinian farmers and villagers and that was in fact one of the main triggers for the Hamas October 7th attacks.

@blaaaaaaaaahify

5 ай бұрын

To begin with. The two-state option was repeatedly rejected by Palestinians and the Arab League, twice explicitly. Second, Palestinians desire to rename and claim the entire country of Israel as their own. That is not going to happen if that is your solution for peace. And if Palestine's goal is to 'liberate' israeli lands, chances are Israel will 'liberate' Gaza and West Bank first. Careful what you wish for.

@blaaaaaaaaahify

5 ай бұрын

"daily harass Palestinian farmers and villagers and that was in fact one of the main triggers for the Hamas October 7th attacks." That is complete BULLSHIT. No one buys that ridiculous idiotic claim. No one, ever!

This is the first time I've seen this viewpoint (sanity) presented in the media. Thanks Ari!

@oleggold

6 ай бұрын

Itvis amazing, as this point was made by any Israeli who knows even a little bit, and spoken also in the media in Israel. Yet the international media didn't think to discuss this at all. While I believe they know all about it.

@lora8546

6 ай бұрын

Harari is little more than your typical Jewish propagandist, mythmaker and sophist. Nothing about the reason for the hostage taking which was to force Israel to release at least part of the 6000-8000 Palestinians it has been imprisoning and torturing in inhuman conditions, many of them underage kids who were tried in military courts (the only country in the world with this practice) and many languishing there for decades with hardly any charges against them. Harari's thinking is so limited that he can't recognize that the "concessions" proposed by Israel are not acceptable not only for Hamas but most for Palestinians. He uses the usual propaganda phrases about having Palestinians live a "dignified life" when there's no way that he is not aware that Palestinians live in occupied areas are living in the most undignified conditions thanks to Israel: walls all over their territory, restrictions of movement and obstacles on free travel abroad, trade impediments on exports and imports, access to less water than what Israelis have though Palestinians are sitting on top of aquifers diverted to Israel, prohibitions on visiting the sites of their ancestor homes in Israel, and most important a prohibition on returning to the properties their ancestors owned for ages. Even Palestinians who are citizens of Israel face obstacles, as for example in real estate purchases. So his words about dignity for Palestinians is a pharisaic as they can get. The same applies to his use of the phrase "absolute justice" which in his mind can be applicable solely to Jews. Also he is being stealthily deceitful that it's only Hamas that Israel wants disarmed. Israel has demanded in the peace talks that Palestinians not be permitted to have any military force aside from local police. This is hardly a truly "dignified" solution. For Hamas sleepily watching as Israel disunites the Arab bloc in its support of the Palestinian was unacceptable for the same reason that Israel would hardly sit by idly as some Western countries turned champions of the Palestinian cause. Israelis have shown in the years leading to their independence that they can be just as terroristic in forcing decisions as Hamas today. Their terrorism was the main factor that got the British to leave Palestine far before they left any other colony of theirs. Melber who is Jewish continues recycling the debunked tale of Hamas killing babies. The official list of victims of the 10/7 attack can be found on Haaretz's site on the internet and no infant is listed. Only a few children were killed. As for those burned inside homes there's a question of whether that was done by Hamas which at the most had grenades on them or the IDF who shot indiscriminately and with missiles at homes and cars to root out the Hamas fighters. Obviously neither Harari (as a historian and philosopher) or Melber are capable of being loyal to their professions and stepping outside their Jewish prejudices to discuss what has happened accurately and without fictitious embellishments. Melber's program has always been an hour of primarily propaganda.

Mr. Harari, one naive question: Why couldn't the peace process treaty negotiations between Israel and Saudi continue despite the horrific attack by Hamas on Oct. 7th? Why did it have to be derailed? Wouldn't continuation of that process have weakened Hamas' position by showing its actions as being ineffective and thus making the Israeli position stronger in terms of return of hostages negotiations? Again, please excuse my naivety here. BTW I found your books to be very enlightening.

@jamestiburon443

6 ай бұрын

Saudi could not conclude a peace treaty with the Gaza War, in the face of Anti-Israeli sentiment in the Arabic World. They are pragmatic and want it, they just have to take a break for political expediency.

@adamszanyi2242

6 ай бұрын

The arab populations accross the Middle East are deeply pro-palestinian and anti-israeli. Even if arab governements (including Saudi Arabia) don't care about the palestinians and would rather pursue business with Israel, it is politically untenable for them to ignore the pressure coming from the people. The last thing those governements want is that the Palestinian issue serves as a driver for internal revolutionary and islamist forces that could potentially result in their (violent) downfall.

@marymay3343

6 ай бұрын

Because of muslim anti-Israel solidarity. I would rather ask another question (not Mr Harari, but journalists): Why President Biden negotiating meeting with four muslim leaders, scheduled for Oct 18, failed to happen? Anyone remembers? It was because a day before ALL major media rushed to blame Israel for a strike on a hospital, which actually was a Jihad's mislaunch. Harm was done!

@lioraeger5652

6 ай бұрын

Because of the street ! Saudi Arabia is afraid of the people, who demonstrate against Israel. This could influence their might😊

@BQ900

6 ай бұрын

Saudis controlled by Iran. Puppets of the backwoods and backwards imams there.

Wish that Mr. Harari has an interview with Norman Finkelstein on this conflict.

His book Sapiens is one of the best books this century.

A realistic and sober assessment of the situation.

@larchlarch9851

6 ай бұрын

A realistic and sober comment. Thanks...

@6Untitled9

6 ай бұрын

Looks like a damage limitation attempt, for Saudi consumption to me.

@rezrunnercl

6 ай бұрын

You were able to absorb a complete realistic and sober assessment in 20 minutes and one view narrow point of view? There are many scholars who have very different explanations as to the origins of this attack. This guy is very biased and his view is one in dozens. I used to think Ari attracted an intelligent audience. But based on the comments here, one has to wonder about their critical thinking skills and intellectual curiosity. Very sad that people are so easily lead. It's not just Republicans who believe anything their media tells them. Get some other views maybe. This view provides only "one of many" contributing factors, but it's not "the reason" And his solution was pure propaganda!

as long as Bebe is in power, there will never be peace.

@tetianavarvynska2125

6 ай бұрын

Arab nations attacked Israel next day after it proclaimed its creation in 1947. Bibi may be a bad guy but the history of anti-israeli sentiments and actions precedes him by long.

You are great! Hope we can enjoy your visit to Buenos Aires soon. Best wishes! - Christian

i appreciate your purity of your heart and your warmth for the world. Thank you, Mr. Harari and all the editors.

@nextinstitute7824

6 ай бұрын

So this is supposed to be a Chinese viewpoint?

@sureshnaidu201

6 ай бұрын

@@nextinstitute7824 how is this chinese viewpoint?

Benny Gantz is our best international asset. Netanyahu must resign. he keeps power against now the will of the people of Israel. Am Yisrael Chai.

Harari seems to repeat decades of Israeli policy: "We want peace but we won't discuss it with you" where YOU is the PLO, Fatah, Hamas, whoever is successfully - arguably - representing the Palestinian people. They decided they could not work with the PLO, violated all of their agreements, elevated Hamas and engineered it's eclipse of Fatah in Gaza, and now complain that they can't work with them. I don't know what the endgame is but we need some clear commitment from the Israelis to peace and we need them to stop pretending that they can pick and choose whom to negotiate with, who the representatives of the Palestinian people will be.

@ekamarga

6 ай бұрын

I agree, Harari repeats the argument "we want peace but others don't". He fails to address the massacres all the past years, the apartheid, the illegal expansion of Israel - these sre reduced to "mistakes". Hamas is again framed as the problem, whereas there are evidence that Israel repeatedly failed to recognize the rights of Palestinelians in the area, and there is no evidence that it will do so in the future.

@MCJSA

6 ай бұрын

@@ekamarga I've been watching this since the 1970s. Today, Western orthodoxy presents Hamas as a pariah, a near sub-human entity impossible to approach, and this has been a pattern with all emergent leadership among Palestinians. The preferred method of neutralizing Palestinian resistance has long been to deprive them of leadership.This naturally leads to frustration, increasing radicalization, and ever deminishng chances of reaching a negotiated settlement. The Israeli alternative to peace is not war: it is a slow national attrition and an erosion of presence leading to national extinction. There should be no drama. No cataclism. No catastrophy. Only a quiet ebbing away of life, as in a stragulation, where any attempt to resist is met with extreme violence. Israel repeats the pattern of national and cultural genocide against indigenous people in other colonial settler states, particularly the USA, Canada, and Australia.

Saudi-Israel treaty had not happened before October 7, but the guest speaker treated it as if this treaty had had a chance it would bring peace to the Mid East and the Palestines would enjoy peace as a result. It is his hypothesis which does not take into account of the complexity of the problem which has roots that go back much further than Oct 7 and the prospect of Saudi Israel treaty.

@LisaKeamy

6 ай бұрын

He said it would benefit the Palestinians and it's what Saudi Arabia also has said.

@DuongTran-mh7ci

6 ай бұрын

The Saudi- Israel treaty does not address the problem squarely therefore the seed of the conflict is untouched. The conflict therefore is prolonged and meanwhile the sufferers still suffer from generation to generation and the resentment continue to build up. Honesty with oneself is required, you cant buy time for the conflict to go away.

@robertcampomizzi7988

6 ай бұрын

How does Oct 7 address the problem "squarely"??? Square that away for me. How did Oct 7 lessen hostilities and shorten the conflict? Honesty is required. 3:53 "Hamas is beyond extreme It has a sort of genocidal charter" - Ari

@MrMarumari

6 ай бұрын

@@robertcampomizzi7988 Bibi helped create Hamas as a counter-weight to the peace process. Israel does not want peace - it wants to take over Palestinian land for resources and to claim it as its birthright. It's been doing this for years - stealing land and building settlements, and killing anyone who objects with impunity. You are under-estimating the subterfuge and smoke and mirror tactics Israel has learned from its bffs Britain and the USA in the geopolitical skullduggery in that region.

@LisaKeamy

6 ай бұрын

@@DuongTran-mh7ciProlonged? Like it was about to end otherwise???

When the time comes even the people that you admire and aspire fall down to the things you see .Trust no one is my life motto.

@bodymindsoul60

6 ай бұрын

Wow, my new realization just today!

@patriciaadducci6549

6 ай бұрын

We need to avoid confusing unrealistic expectations with trust.

@nextinstitute7824

6 ай бұрын

Indeed, Harari is a great disappointment.

@oleggold

6 ай бұрын

​@@nextinstitute7824 To anti Israelis like you. That's fine.

The Palestinians deserve a better leadership that prefers peace over revenge. Revenge for the Nakba (the 1947-48 war in which both sides weren't flawless). Almost no nation is seeking for revenge (though many have suffered from others in the last century). Revenge always leads to more war. Peace is about forgiveness, compromise and future.

@aurelgold

6 ай бұрын

ei sunt plătiți pentru a fi carne de tun , din păcate

@cinemar

6 ай бұрын

It's not about revenge. It's about safety and security. A woman cannot live next door to her rapist. A kid cannot lice next door to his bully.

@DavidJulian-ed3bg

6 ай бұрын

It’s not the leadership alone. The leadership is just a reflection of the population. All poles show that over 90% do not want to co-exist. This means a genocidal desire. Education, incitement on national and religious basis must be dealt with. Israel now understands it.

@PeterLamin-bw5rs

6 ай бұрын

End the occupation ❤❤❤

@DavidJulian-ed3bg

6 ай бұрын

@@PeterLamin-bw5rs I stand with Israel. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱❤️❤️❤️. You stand with ISIS-HAMAS 🤮🤮🤮

I have respect for Harrari, but he said that "Israel's goal in this conflict is not revenge", and many simply have trouble believing that given the disproportionate and inhumane actions they've conducted that have raised concerns among many experts of human rights and international law. Some having even raised the very specific concern of a possible genocide, which seems to be supported by the rhetoric of their officials. So I honestly don't know whether Harari said that because he wants to believe that, or whether he actually does. Honestly, it would very naive of him to think that the dismantling of Hamas is Netanyahoo's only goal here.

@Nom1fan

6 ай бұрын

"Possible genocide" would mean the killing of 2.2 million civilians. Do those "experts" really believe that? Do you? Well even if you (stupendously) do, if at the end of this war there are still 2.2 million Palestinians alive then you would have had been proven wrong. I'd bet against you my entire life fortune that there is no genocide. Wanna take the bet?

@benb6527

6 ай бұрын

Well I hope you care enough to pay attention when the fog of war dissipates and we learn how Hamas has created this situation where Israel has no choice but to do this

@dilsadmeraler

6 ай бұрын

@@benb6527I highly recommend the many Israeli officials talking about how they see hamas as an asset, too. Extremists on both side are minority but unfortunately have the power and guns

@ChrisAlbertH47

6 ай бұрын

@@benb6527 And I hope that you have enough perspective to understand that this did not begin on Oct 7th. Shocking I know..

@sharonstonts

6 ай бұрын

​​​​@@ChrisAlbertH47but it kind of did. No one knew Hamas was that cruel, no one knew humans can be that cruel (yes even after the holocaust). Most of those communities are peace activists, but they are not anymore. We weren't paying attention. Hamas says time and again that they want to destroy Israel and they use Palestinians, keep them poor, radicalize them. Why didn't we listen? This is not about liberation. it's about building an Islamic state, taking over, becoming Iran.

For someone whos supposed to understand human nature this guy is very nieve

Mr. Harari, of all people, would know that excluding a stakeholder is against discourse ethics. Was leaving Palestine out of Israel - Saudi discussion the right thing to do. Had things been done differently, would this situation have been avoided? If disarming Hamas is a valid call, will it also imply that Israel's military power should be clipped?

WOW... what a simple minded person ! Historian ? When I read his book Sapiens said it's nice summer reading ! entertaining , not a single new piece of information ! Why the western media is found of him ? Exactly for this reason.. Talk too much says nothing , especially about social issues.. I did read his "economic"part in Sapiens with a smile ! High school level at best

How many of the thousands of children died were Hamas??? So sad, my heart breaks. One thing for sure, the US and EU have lost their credibilities in the eyes of the world. Yuval, please re think how the Oct 7 happened, how the border could be so easily breeched?!?!?

Thank you for bringing this thoughtful and knowledgeable genius. Please bring him again to help us make more sense (if possible) of the horrors we now encounter - everywhere!

@lora8546

6 ай бұрын

Harari is little more than your typical Jewish propagandist, mythmaker and sophist. Nothing about the reason for the hostage taking which was to force Israel to release at least part of the 6000-8000 Palestinians it has been imprisoning and torturing in inhuman conditions, many of them underage kids who were tried in military courts (the only country in the world with this practice) and many languishing there for decades with hardly any charges against them. Harari's thinking is so limited that he can't recognize that the "concessions" proposed by Israel are not acceptable not only for Hamas but most for Palestinians. He uses the usual propaganda phrases about having Palestinians live a "dignified life" when there's no way that he is not aware that Palestinians live in occupied areas are living in the most undignified conditions thanks to Israel: walls all over their territory, restrictions of movement and obstacles on free travel abroad, trade impediments on exports and imports, access to less water than what Israelis have though Palestinians are sitting on top of aquifers diverted to Israel, prohibitions on visiting the sites of their ancestor homes in Israel, and most important a prohibition on returning to the properties their ancestors owned for ages. Even Palestinians who are citizens of Israel face obstacles, as for example in real estate purchases. So his words about dignity for Palestinians is a pharisaic as they can get. The same applies to his use of the phrase "absolute justice" which in his mind can be applicable solely to Jews. Also he is being stealthily deceitful that it's only Hamas that Israel wants disarmed. Israel has demanded in the peace talks that Palestinians not be permitted to have any military force aside from local police. This is hardly a truly "dignified" solution. For Hamas sleepily watching as Israel disunites the Arab bloc in its support of the Palestinian was unacceptable for the same reason that Israel would hardly sit by idly as some Western countries turned champions of the Palestinian cause. Israelis have shown in the years leading to their independence that they can be just as terroristic in forcing decisions as Hamas today. Their terrorism was the main factor that got the British to leave Palestine far before they left any other colony of theirs. Melber who is Jewish continues recycling the debunked tale of Hamas killing babies. The official list of victims of the 10/7 attack can be found on Haaretz's site on the internet and no infant is listed. Only a few children were killed. As for those burned inside homes there's a question of whether that was done by Hamas which at the most had grenades on them or the IDF who shot indiscriminately and with missiles at homes and cars to root out the Hamas fighters. Obviously neither Harari (as a historian and philosopher) or Melber are capable of being loyal to their professions and stepping outside their Jewish prejudices to discuss what has happened accurately and without fictitious embellishments. Melber's program has always been an hour of primarily propaganda.

@brunoreinhardt1182

6 ай бұрын

Hamas was historically empowered by Israel. The whole narrative is so naif from the beggining..

Wonderful 😂❤ thanks so much 🙏 watching in London Sirus London

You were a person I admired as a historian who practiced vipassana for years, I expected a more humanitarian response of you! You failed in doing your job 😔 It feels like the person who is talking now in this interview and other interviews is not the same person who wrote “Sapiens” !!! I was waiting for you to at least address the killing of over +10000 people in Gaza 😞

Very good, thank you.✌️🫶🙌

The reason why Hamas did this now is because if the Abraham accord had continued with Saudi signing it, the Palestinians plight would have been ignored and forgotten. The whole region would now be best friends with Israel, forgetting Palestine. The peace treaty was not for the benefit of Palestinians.

There are many sides to this story but compromise is a must. Both sides need to compromise for the sake of peace and a dignified life.

Countries around the world have put the occupation of Palestine as the core issue that must be solved before any fair peace may be achieved in the region. Countries in the Middle East further insisted that there must not be normalization with Israel before this issue is resolved. This principle is rooted in the rejection of colonialism, and to ensure that no reward is given to those who steal lands and commit crimes against native populations in the region. For a long time, the Palestinian people suffered from never ending violence and elimination of freedoms and basic human rights by the Israelis. On top of that, they also suffered from BEING USED AS A POLITICAL INSTRUMENT BY THE ENTIRE WORLD who pretended to care about the Palestinian people themselves, as opposed to serve the own interests and vision for the region, and as part of this larger conflict. Eighty years later, the west-enchanted Saudi Arabia was going to break this principle, with some moderate (though not public) support from previously opposing countries in the region, such as the selfish regime in Iran, as well as others. Hamas, who stood against those actions and who fought over the years in the name of the Palestinians victims, didn't like that.

How would any of us view, a people coming to your land and taking over your land???

It would be enlightening to hear a discussion between Yuval Noah Harari and Norman Finkelstein about this conflict. Both are experts on this subject. Harari says the Oct. 7 massacre was intended to derail a treaty between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Finkelstein says it was the predictable result of decades of horrible treatment of the Palestinians by Israel. Which is true? Can they both be?

@NLF123

6 ай бұрын

Finkelstein is nothing more than a self-hating Jew, so I'd say Yuval Harari's take on the situation is closer to reality

@allysonrose4930

6 ай бұрын

In this subject over peace, I believe this is only from yuvals ideas on the Hamas... In this case he is not tatally neutral... Neh. Israel is as much to blame in preventing the peace treaty. Maybe this supposedly peace treaty should have included the hamas at the table for this discussion. Steups....

@sravanyavully9958

6 ай бұрын

Ask yourself

@randyevermore9323

6 ай бұрын

​@@sravanyavully9958 "Ask yourself" I did. And the response I got was, "You're not an expert; ask someone who is."

@NLF123

6 ай бұрын

@@sravanyavully9958 No

The voice of reason in a country that lost its direction

💯💯💯💯

History showed that peace is only possible if your conquer your enemy or get conquered.

@52darcey

5 ай бұрын

You mean like South Africa?

Sir you are describing totally contradictory condition. On the other hand thousands of people are dying day by day in the Palestine ,but the world is still quiet. Why world is not helping the helpless PALESTINE PEOPLE. 😢😢😢😢

Were the supposed concessions you failed to mention detailed on the back of the new map Bibi waved around at the UN with Palestine completely erased?

Yes.

I don’t blame Bibi for this attack. He didn’t organize it and would have stopped it if the IDF had alerted him. The failure of the IDF to detect this attack is the question why did the security measures fail? Blaming Bibi is just wrong. Why did the IDF take so long to respond get to the root of that so it never happens again. Israel is not Alaska it takes more than a hour for 911 to respond to my village always. We have to be ready to fight back while we wait for help. Why were these villages not prepared to fight? Why was there not security personal in every village? These are the questions I would be asking not blaming the Prime Minister

Yes also. Listen to him he is right. Compromise and healing. God can bless this process, hopefully men can. Yes he should go.

I don’t agree how Melber treated you; flippant and casual. Your broad knife and opinion about white Americans leave you open for interrogation, but you’ve earned a lot throughout your hard work.

Run run run

I think Yuval Harari is a very important host, his understanding of history and culture can help a lot to understand and solve this horrible and so complicated situation

Thank you, Yuval Noah Harari. Todah raba

That's yuvals ideas... We must all u der stand we listen to opinions

God bless Israel!!! ❤❤❤

Don’t care too much for Ari…Love Yuval. That’s why I watched.

Netanyahu is right wing and divisive, true - but the unwavering position of Hamas and it's supporters, absolute or tacit, has little to do with it. They are not interested in dialogue or compromise, and have never been.

@d0lvl0

6 ай бұрын

Religion is key to understanding Hamas' mission and commitment to a permanent war. Less so for the rest of the Palestinians. I personally think it will require a huge % of moderate muslims to condemn extreme muslims, instead of excusing them, before there will be long term peace.

@CivilizationInNation

6 ай бұрын

The Palestinians refused all peace attempts from 1948 to 2014. The Israelis kinda lost hope...

@ChrisAlbertH47

6 ай бұрын

@@CivilizationInNation Nonsense

@Nom1fan

6 ай бұрын

​@@ChrisAlbertH47As an Israeli, no it's not nonesense. My family has been extreme left peace supporters since I were born, but yes at some point it started feeling hopeless. We extend our hand in peace and get shot in the face again and again and again. So don't dismiss our plight by saying "nonesense" about something you have no understanding about.

@ChrisAlbertH47

6 ай бұрын

@@Nom1fan And perhaps you shouldn't talk as if I have no understanding of what I'm saying, given that you don't know who I am either. The notion that Israel has been the only party to ever want peace while the Palestinians are the ones who constantly seek to deny it is historically nonsense. I could write you an essay but I don't care to convince you of anything. I only wanted to express my opinion. It would've been more accurate and realistic to say that throughout the complicated history of the two people, there have been elements on both sides that have sought to sabotage the creation of a long lasting peace. Your current government through its actions have not shown that either.

Great interviewer, he's new to me. Respect!

@proAlbertEinsteins

6 ай бұрын

He's a well-known historian and a great thinker

@kofManKan

6 ай бұрын

Well he's even better known now!@@proAlbertEinsteins

Never ever i will buy your book nor will I believe in anybody else who is a storyteller and pretends to be peacemaker… I have seen your heart…thank you you have shown me what manipulation, injustice and being ignorant means

But what sparked the Oct 7 attack? History did not begin two months ago.😊

Really ...? Harari believes Netanyahu would have given rights to Palestians. He is losing his marbels and my respect.

Netanyahu is under threat of judicial criminal action which will be initiated when he is no longer PM of Israel. He is so concerned about his vulnerability that he has taken his eye off his main task which is to keep Israel safe. How much imagination does it take to realize that on a Shabat which is also a religious holiday (Sukkot) and the 50th anniversary of the Yom Ki-pour war, that Hamas will do something. How much experience do you need to realize that most wars are preceded by heavy artillery bombardment. Hamas doesn't have artillery so she uses rockets. How is it that when the attack started it took so so long to get the army there and why were units withdrawn from the area before the attack.

יובל היי, בתור היסטוריון שמסתכל על המציאות בעיניים אוביקטיביות ובוחן את הווה לפי הפעולות שקראו בעבר איך אתה מאמין שקיים אפשרות לפיתרון שתי מדינות? אני כלל לא היסטוריון ואני זוכר לפחות 4 ניסיון של ישראל לקדם מדינה פלסטינית אבל בכל פעם הענין הסתיים בטרור. איך אפשר להמשיך לחשוב שזה הוא הפיתרון אחרי שהוא נכשל שוב ושוב.? שמעתי אותך מציין על השואה והעבר הקשה עם גרמניה ועל המצב הנוכחי של שלום כיום בתור איזה שהיא דוגמא לסכסוכים קשים שיכולים להסתיים בשלום . עדין אין פה משהו אופטימי ואופרטיבי שיכול להעניק תקווה לסכסוך שלנו עם הפלסטינים

@mokied

6 ай бұрын

היה רק נסיון רציני אחד לקדם את פתרון 2 המדינות. זה היה בשנות ה-90 דרך התהליך המדיני מול רש״פ שהתחיל בהסכם אוסלו והסתיים בכשלון השיחות בקמפ דיוויד ובפרוץ האינתיפאדה השנייה עם עליית אריק שרון להר הבית. בעיה משמעותית אחת היו פיגועי ההתאבדות הרצחניים שביצע החמאס במטרה לטרפד את התהליך, ובעיה שנייה היתה הנסיגה החד־צדדית מדרום לבנון שהקשיחה את העמדות בצד הפלסטיני משראו שאפשר לסחוט ויתורים מצד ישראל ללא תהליך מדיני (וזה הוחמר עוד יותר אחרי הנסיגה החד־צדדית מרצועת עזה שבוצעה ללא הסכם וללא תאום עם הרש״פ). בסופו של יום יכול להיות שפתרון 2 המדיניות הוא קשה לביצוע, אבל אין באמת פתרון ריאלי אחר.

How come palestinians are extremes, although they abide by two states solutions .. which was ruined by Israel?

Harari understands.

What about your settlements in the west Bank? How you can talk about peace? What about the law of return, can I use it to go back to my home, or is just made for jews?

how in a clear mind, Israeli PM radicalism can be put in the same line as Hamas?! really?!

I think there is also a tiny bit of revenge in all of this, to be honest. Several thousands of mouthfuls of teeth for a tooth and several thousands of pairs of eyes for an eye to be specific.

@RS-uh7rz

6 ай бұрын

You seriously don't understand.

@dannyfarkas9127

6 ай бұрын

Well - if we take past prisoner exchanges as a basis of measuring value, the exchange rate between Israelis and Palestinians is about 1:1000.

@DeOmnibusDubitandum76

6 ай бұрын

@@RS-uh7rz Hamas is a disgusting gang of butchers. That's irrefutable. The response of the Israeli government, with its fanatic ministers, is completely disproportionate. Easy to understand, really. Cheers!

The exent to which Mr. Harari's goes to deflect from 75 years of occupation ad colonialism.

@mele9131

6 ай бұрын

Palestinans need to lead the peace process

Shame on you Ari. I used to watch your comments and mostly agreed. Not challenging his narrative tells me a lot a lot you. There was no inclusion of life improvements for the Palestinians on the new treat to normalize relattions between Israel and the Saudis. They left to the flies. Yuri .. another one that is out of my list of books.

The oil and gas off the coast of gaza has nothing to do wit this !(

“Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” DANIEL 11:37

Yuval ❤

It is just unbelievable to see the professor talking about the most far right government in Israeli history was about to give something back to the Palestinians.

Excellent content.

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." Malcolm X

I wonder why Ari shaved for this interview.

For a historian, Yuval is leaving out a lot of it… I love his books but this is very disappointing

@oieiworpoafjaklsd

6 ай бұрын

You expect him to fit the entire history and all the nuance of the middle east into an 8.5 minute interview? That seems like a pretty high bar. 😅

@mikiohirata9627

6 ай бұрын

What do you expect from these media tidbits ? He will need full hour or more to lay out why it happened to how he thinks will bring about peace in the regions and or lay out realistic plans that involves not only conflicting nations but who ever holds any political / religious / Economical stakes. I personally think you can talk and talk and talk till you are blue in the face but It'll get no-where at least for not any foreseeable future.

what a crock. too little, too late for these war crimes apologists

In War, Resolution; In Defeat, Defiance; In Victory, Magnanimity; and in Peace, Good Will - Winston Chruchill If Israel can be magnanimous to the peaceful Palestinians in their eventual victory over Hamas, maybe there is a chance. But without magnanimity, it will slide back into conflict very quickly.

@aminahmad2595

6 ай бұрын

Israel has already lost. Only thing coming out of our Muslim children being massacred is hamas 2.0 Many orphans in gaza right now. Coincidentally, many many hamas fighters are orphans too.

Two things he's wrong about: 1. The Peace treaty was designed to normalize relations while side stepping Palestinian issue entirely. Netanyahu would never sign a peace deal that created a viable Palestinian state as it would require the removal of settlements in the West Bank. 2. Iran had nothing to do with the attack. Hamas planned it with maximum secrecy so it have the best chance of succeeding. Iran and everyone else in the region was taken by surprise.

@alextabet9247

6 ай бұрын

Excellently put. Agree 100%. There is no evidence whatsoever that Israel was going to concede anything to the Palestinians. If anything, when Netanyahu presented his vision of the Middle East to the UN in July, his map showed an Israel that included Gaza and the West Bank. There was no Palestinian state in his vision.

@user-ts5qw6tr9b

6 ай бұрын

How would you know? You at the meetings. 😅

@alextabet9247

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ts5qw6tr9b nobody heard or saw any evidence of Israel conceding anything to the Palestinians. If you read the posts on this thread, you will see that it is generally agreed that Israel was sidestepping the Palestinians to secure a peace deal with Saudi Arabia. Even experts have said that Netanyahu and his government have no intention of working with the Palestinians in any way shape or form. Of course, if you have any evidence to the contrary, feel free to share it with the group.

Why can’t people simply condemn Hamas and also speak out on the serious war crimes by the Israeli government. This level of dishonesty is beyond shocking.

I've read two of Harari's books - he's an amazing intellect. However, I am skeptical that his analysis of the Israeli government's position and actions in this conflict is correct. Their collective actions to brutalize and subjugate Palestinians over the decades does not fit the image of a nation pursuing peace. If anything, it explains why Hamas is committed to bitter and desperate violence. This is an extremely long and complicated story, but Harari's take sounds like so many other pro-Israel voices who can't (or won't) see past their own biases.

@NLF123

6 ай бұрын

It was never ideal, but Gazans lived much better lives before Hamas came to power, when they could work in Israel and bring home a decent salary

@chazyvr

6 ай бұрын

Who can negotiate peace on the Palestinian side?

The voice of reason! Dignity and peace for both peoples.

@lesliebrowne1502

6 ай бұрын

The voice of reason?! Please, do expand your sources of information before forming an opinion & expressing it. Even Israel's leading publicationing Haretz & it's editors have told the real story & condemned the Israeli government for what has happened.

@med1to

6 ай бұрын

@@lesliebrowne1502 I believe that Mr Yuval Harari represents the voice of reason. We all try to be informed.

If you ever wondered about the beautiful story-telling ability of Harari, his evasive mealy-mouth take on Palestine tells you everything.

Ari stunned like a mulett. bS MSNBC

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Hamas must be removed in any case!

I think it is Israel’s genocide, not Hamas’ terror, that thwarted the Saudi peace deal.

Peace process and Palestinian state?

Just for completeness the word "payback" was used by some Israeli officials. In any case, your voice is much needed in these times. Thank you for stepping up.

@rezrunnercl

6 ай бұрын

???? Keep asking questions. A very narrow view point. More respected scholars would not agree or would only partially agree. Wouldn't you get closer to the truth if he also interviewed a Palestinian scholar or even an American Scholar. Someone from an Isreali University, would naturally give us a biased view point? Aris so smart. ..and a master at peddling the view her prefers. Journalistic integrity? 😂 I don't know about revenge but I know Netanyahu wants the land, and the Pallistinians gone. He's been quoted many times. And Netanyahu is nothing, if not an opportunist.

Yes Mr harari, Israel must make peace with Palestinians first then with neighbours

@CivilizationInNation

6 ай бұрын

The Palestinians refused every single attempt for peace in the past, not offering any alternative...

The Chinese say: There cannot be two kings in one kingdom. The whole world already knows there is a conflict in the Middle East but the solution is hidden. Many don't realize that Israel is not a real country without Their Temple, regardless of when Christ is coming back!

Why is it so difficult for people to see that it’s impossible for Israel to make peace with Palestinians until Hamas is disarmed ?

@Marksman3434

6 ай бұрын

Like they've made "peace" with the Palestinians in the West Bank? Give me a f***ing break.

@user-xz9zz8rf6u

6 ай бұрын

oh for gods sake go research you facts, history and politics

@keepthepeacesharethelove7022

6 ай бұрын

Israel was even before Hamas not interessted in peace and lsrael was the one with America who created and nutured Hamas, because they wanted to weak PLO. That are the facts.

@hend0saud

6 ай бұрын

Why haven’t Israel make peace with Palestinians before Hamas even existed and before Hamas founders were even born??

@fortynine3225

6 ай бұрын

There always be trouble as long as a Israel state is at that place...basically arab country. There are now troubles there for 100 years now and before that also. It will not stop. If Israel want peace than it needs to leave. Staying means endless agression.

This "breakthrough" would just have been Israel and Saudi Arabia normalizing relations. The concessions to the Palestinians would have been token, temporary and just to make the normalization more palatable to Saudi domestic opinion. To pretend that Netanyahu would have made peace with the Palestinians if not for the Hamas attack is backed by no publicly available information and flies in the face of the stated and demonstrated actions of Netanyahu and his government. Remember, he is dependent on the support of far-right political parties to keep his coalition together. Those wouldn't accept anything less favourable to Israel than the Trump Peace Plan.

This Gentleman wrote 2 great books. I have no Sympathy for Jihadis.

@qvorth

5 ай бұрын

No sympathy for jihadis, no sympathy for Israel far right

..Free Palestine 🇵🇸..

We must stand with Israel

@alextabet9247

6 ай бұрын

Who is we? Most of the World is standing with Palestine. But fret not, the US, the UK and the EU stand with Israel.

What an intellectual cowardice. Shameful that someone of your status can not grow out of hateful rhetoric and justify such injustice.

Mr harari you're reasonable man. Can't you see the conditions people of Gaza have to live? And don't you think when the war criminal Netanyaho went to the UN and showed the world a map without Gaza and West Bank?

No Palestinian viewpoint here, any interlocutor would have said that collective punishment is commonplace on the West Bank so why is the Gaza campaign any different? If the settlements aren’t rolled back this talk of. New peace process is meaningless and why would this peace treaty with the Saudis be any different from that signed with Jordon and Egypt inthe 70s which had a Palestinian component Begin and Sharon simply ignored once they got what they wanted, as did the Egyptians and Jordanians.

I never heard of any "Palestinian peace process" in the Saudi treaty. Can you please advert me to documentation? It could just be another Israeli delay tactic, like the last 56 years.

no way, who gonna stop war knowing that he will lost his power....555

I'm confused.. is it Yuval or his partner that is pregnant?

Without Iran's blessings, Hamas would not have attacked Israel on Oct 7th.