When Micah shot Mrs. Grimshaw, I couldn’t believe Dutch had no reaction. If that didn’t prove Micah was the rat, I don’t know what would’ve.

@chrishelbling3879

Ай бұрын

Jack was the rat.

@NkosanaMakhubele

Ай бұрын

​@@chrishelbling3879 noo😢😢

@fantasy_4772

Ай бұрын

I peronaly belive he and abi to be the rats we all have been looking for

@joekuvorkian

Ай бұрын

​@@fantasy_4772the story has a couple spots left open ended for a rat other than Micah. Abigail has motive, and conveniently is the one who caps Milton. Trelawney comes and goes, he also has a family that can be used against him. We have no idea how truthful Milton was about when Micah started ratting, or how little Molly gave him. Pearson also has a wife.

I felt really bad for Ms grimshaw because she probably had a genuine love for Dutch like molly when she was younger. But over time she saw that Dutch only liked a woman for her appearance&it turned her into the camp general basically.

@shayleeledevre6401

2 ай бұрын

Also how she felt Karen and MB were always laughing at her because her youth was gone. That camp scene was sad but she checked them.

@glowhoo9226

2 ай бұрын

And yet she stayed loyal all the way to the end.

@johnnysilvercloud4470

2 ай бұрын

If Dutch was the Commanding Officer of a battalion, Grimshaw was the Command Sergeant Major. She keeps the barracks in line.

-Dutch: Quite a lady she’s becoming. -Charles: Nani?!

@tasingapastel4819

2 ай бұрын

The face like : "What you just say?"

@ForgottenPassword

2 ай бұрын

LOL he could not believe what he just heard

@Mr.WestDickens

Ай бұрын

My Man was Shocked

@Aganie.

Ай бұрын

His face 😭 like: Bro??!?

Karen and Ms. Grimshaw were underrated triggerwomen.

"If I killed Ms. Grimshaw do you think Dutch would be mad?" - Tilly *Mr.Grimshaw is killed in front of Dutch and isn't even acknowledged* The foreshadowing in these 2 games are amazing

@shlapmaster2485

2 ай бұрын

Its one game

@TacitusKilgoreReal

2 ай бұрын

@@shlapmaster2485theyre talking about both games having rly good foreshadowing…

WOW, that interaction between Dutch and Susan in Beaver Hollow is... Uncomfortable as hell.

Her death was so sad. She was loyal to the gang to the end, was one of the earliest members, and as you heard her wither in pain as she passed, Dutch STILL didn’t care about her. And the people who would’ve cared like Arthur and John were at a standoff.

She sided with Arthur at the end. That says it all.

@SirDankleberry

Ай бұрын

Because Arthur was probably the closest she had to a son. She was firm but she loved him.

@nobody-yk2hu

Ай бұрын

The fact Dutch cared more about 3 ruthless criminals more than people who have been with him for over 15 years is just sad I wish we had a scene where after seeing Grimshaw gunned down Bill and Javier question their loyalty and Just decide to leave Dutch and Micah like if in the distance you can hear them ask "why are we after them? The Pinkertons are coming Dutch we gotta go and then the chase happens it would have been a nice detail is all I'm saying

When you see Grimshaw first dtab that guy, you know that she’s someone you want on your side. Micah shot her, knowing that she wouldn’t hesitate to take his ass out, much like she did with Molly. I hate that you couldn’t avenge her there and then. And Dutch just spazzes out after one of most loyal members was gunned down

@raheeeg

2 ай бұрын

I'm still not over Dutch's reaction

@ashenking5013

2 ай бұрын

The way Dutch just ignored her dying wails and droned on that it’s all about him was unbelievable. For John, his heart had to have been hurting more than that gunshot wound.

@Iceblade269

2 ай бұрын

@@raheeeg Idk why Arthur didn’t shoot Micah there. He just killed one of the most loyal members of the gang unprompted. I guess it was because a gun fight would break out, but I’m surprised Micah’s ahot didn’t cause a chain reaction.

@Slapnuts9627

2 ай бұрын

​@@Iceblade269Because he did it when Arthur was distracted, so Arthur didn't have an opening

Grimshaw is like the camp Mom. In one piece of dialogue she refers to Arthur as "son"

Dutch was so narcissistic. Molly: I love you Dutch Dutch: Thank you. 😤

Dutch mentionned that at the beggining it was him, Arthur and Hosea. I suspect Ms. Grimshaw joined shortly after Arthur.

@Billy_the-cat

Ай бұрын

He doesn't see her because dutch clearly has lost respect for her just like he did with molly. Truly sad. Him not listening at all to susan says something about his crazy character even more

The way charles THROWS himself around after Dutch says that to mary beth kills me every time😂

@fenixchief7

2 ай бұрын

Charles like "bro, we both here."

@johnaustin209

2 ай бұрын

"Charels..."

I always wanted more of Grimshaw The few moments you get her soft side shows how much she cares but knows she has to run a tight ship to make things work I loved the mission rescuing Tilly because you get to see the complete badass Grimshaw can be when pushed or needed I was livid when Grimshaw died since it was obvious to me and Arthur that Dutch is long gone I like your idea of showing Grimshaw leading more

1:10 Talk of killing Miss Grimshaw. The foreshadowing. 1:27 Arthur: Dutch has a soft spot for her. Meanwhile near the end Chapter 6 Micah shoots Miss Grimshaw right in front of Dutch and everyone and Dutch feels nothing, but she's betraying him.

@johnaustin209

2 ай бұрын

Dutch was a lost cause by the time of Beaver Hollow. He even screams on Miss Grimshaws face.

@Thomas20Smith

2 ай бұрын

Chapter 6 Dutch was full on gone at that point, if he’d done it before Saint Denis then he’d have possibly been killed for that.

@ayamgorengdimakanayam

Ай бұрын

Arthur probably cared but he was in a standoff

@Getawayk

Ай бұрын

Don’t have time for feelings in a stand off

Grimshaw has a soft spot in my heart. Her behaviour with the other women in the camp could be due to her position. If the gang was an established household with an estate she'd be the housekeeper in charge of everyone, basically the head of housekeeping, which was a high ranked position in victorian times. Mostly older women who were well adjusted and knowledgeable of the inner workings of a household (or in this case, the gang's camp and the gang itself) held this position. There are many cases where the head housekeeper was often remembered as a grim authority figure and abuse was not rare, physical and verbal if the maids below the housekeeper didn't do their chores right. You can pretty much see a similar scene in the party at the majors house when the servant you follow to the office scolds a maid for standing in the main hallway where she could be seen by the guests. Grimshaw seems exactly like that. She does not take any disrespect and maybe even harbors bitterness due to her broken relationship with Dutch. Her killing off Molly in her delusional stage was the only thing she saw right: A woman beneath her acted up and threatened the gang, so she disposed of her. Mary-Beth sat around reading... so she went off on her. Grimshaw expects the gang to know their chores and place and them stepping out of line is not taken in a good way. Her death hit hard for me because she was basically running the place. Dutchs role as a leader got smaller and smaller the more delusional he got with his anxiety and paranoia of being betrayed. She was the one alongside Pearson to keep the gang's camp afloat - people seem to downplay the importance of a functioning camp, but in reality it is hugely important. Grimshaw dying as just another nail in the closing coffin for the integrity of the gang and symbolic for how everything is falling apart bit by bit.

By the time i got to Butchers Cove, i had the camp completely upgraded with $3000 in the camp fund. Dutch screaming, we need money when there is money right in arms reach. The story didn't do a good job, including the camp fund box

@jessemclorie9992

21 күн бұрын

I agree they dropped the ball on that one .. . . $5000.00 in 1899 would be $189,198.19 by to days standards . . . An enormous amount of money. They definitely could have done a much better job of telling just how much money Dutch want to bail with, they didn't even clarify how much Dutch had stashed in cave; which looked like a tone, add on the money from the army train Heist.

I like to think Arthur used to be like the girls, but as time went on he began to appreactiate Grimshaw for the 'tough love' she had for the gang and learned not to hold any past animosity against her.

Considering she's one of the first members of the gang, I see her and Hosea as Dutch's sort of surrogate parents with Arthur of course becoming his son. This could really reinforce Dutch's idea of the gang being a "family." I think all they would really need to drive this home would be to have a camp interaction between Hosea and Grimshaw where they more or less discuss their disappointment in Dutch and his dissent. I totally agree they should (and could) have done more with her!

Grimshaw gets done the most dirty

When she killed Molly was the final nail in the coffin for her in my eyes. It was clear Molly was unstable and just saying whatever would hurt Dutch.

I do not understand how it's possible, that Micah killed miss Grimshaw during a standoff and it didn't turned out into a gunfight. How is it possible?

You're right Miss Grimshaw got a raw deal which she didnt deserve. But here something ive always wondered if Arthur wasnt sick and seen the way that Dutch was leading them a path to ruin, what if Arthur challenged Dutch for leadership of the gang who would side with Dutch and who would side with Arthur.

The only mother figure in the camp, her death is sooooo unjust 😔

Underrated character.

Ms. Grimshaw’s death at Beaver Hollow actually got me to cry. I cried for her before Arthur.

I want to know more about her dead husband. Who was he? Was it before or after she joined the gang? Theres an interaction between hervand mary beth. Marybeth talks about love and heaven and asks if grimshaw believes in heaven. Grimshaw then says that "he was the best man she ever knew" and that she believes that "if there is a heaven, hes up there". That camp interaction happened for me in late chapter2/ early chapter 3. I was hoping to get some more insight later but it never happened.

@Exotic_Lizard

Ай бұрын

There's the church in Rhodes that says the name Rev Herbert P Grimshaw on the sign, that could be her husband or a relative

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD

Күн бұрын

@@Exotic_LizardI wouldn’t be surprised, considering that Dutch’s mom’s grave can be found in Blackwater

I cannot express how much I love your channel and how you keep pumping out red dead 2 content, straight to the point and enjoyable, brilliant work as always :)

The life of mrs grimshaw, after the husband she claims is in heaven becoming an outlaw would be an awesome dlc or possible third entry imo

@ladypeahen8829

Ай бұрын

I always imagined story similar to Once Upon a Time in the West behind...

This game is years old yet still has alot to offer

Miss grimshaw is the mother they all needed ❤

I always assumed it was her that got the women out tbh. She cared about them. I love her I wish there was more missions with her.

Yeah I agree she wasn't used in the way she could have been.

WOW WOW WOW What a great video. Keep it up dude!

i love your red dead videos bro, you should make more. you should make some rdr1 videos

If rdr3 is another pre squeal to rdr2 i rlly hope we see a young grimshaw that shows new colors and sides to her we didnt see,i hope she actually gos robbing with the gang and i hope hes like a mother to Arthur and john.

I really liked Grimshaw. I was sad when Micah shot her. Really bummed me out that no one tried to help her.

I loved Ms Grimshaw.... She was quiet yet feisty at times but like Lenny and Hosea u grow too love her .... before anyone says anything I know she's a video game character

Video suggestion. Should the gang sided with the grays or brawthies

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD

Күн бұрын

Neither.

The sad thing about the scene at 8:08~ is when i saw it i had glitched 8 million $ into the camp funds

Ms. Grimshaw cares for everyone but unfortunately she lost the respect from the girls when she shot Molly it was clear molly was full of shit and the Dutch after hearing Micah was a rat who then shot her does nothing

Charles be like :O

My fave cougar in the game 🥵

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD

Күн бұрын

Woah buddy…

I know a lot of people in the gang didn't like Miss Grimshaw, but the fact that no one truly second guessed themselves in that scene really bothers me. Like, i get that shit is tense, but micah made the first move, and then Dutch gets on John for shooting at him. Bro, you literally were complicit in what could be considered the closest thing to a mother figure that John and Arthur ever had. It feels very rushed to me.

2:06 pretty bad transition dude

You Dropped this 📌 Can I Have It

@CynicGTA

2 ай бұрын

If you tell me something i dont know

@Willessam69

2 ай бұрын

Can I Get That Pin

@Willessam69

2 ай бұрын

You don't know I have 2 dogs

@gordonchen9510

Ай бұрын

L

I gotta unsubscribe. Way too much ‘they should’ve done it this way’

@wisemanchronicles9698

2 ай бұрын

The game story is still good because it's character driven. But if they ever wanted to adapt it into a TV show or movie I think they should make small changes that he recommended.

@channel45853

2 ай бұрын

While I usually agree with such a philosophy, he does have a point. Ms. Grimshaw is one of the founding members but most players seem to care about her but not as much as they maybe should considering her history.

@dadassery8506

2 ай бұрын

@@wisemanchronicles9698 i hope they don’t. Some games should be allowed to stand on their own merits.

@jessemclorie9992

21 күн бұрын

I agree "they should have done it this way" growes tired some.

only 5 likes after 50 seconds? you fell off

@CynicGTA

2 ай бұрын

Dont you gotta blow up in order to fall off? 😂

@ironicly__iconic

2 ай бұрын

Made your day that did 😅 been waiting for ages to write that I bet. 🤦🏼‍♂️😅

@NikoCigoj

2 ай бұрын

@@ironicly__iconic yup, couldnt wait for the chance

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