When I was younger, I always felt I was not smart enough for old Star Trek. Now I'm glad to know I'm not dumb enough for new Star Trek.

@choreomaniac

4 жыл бұрын

Perfect.

@Ikebald

4 жыл бұрын

This comment wins. Thank you.

@roflcopter_launchpad1116

4 жыл бұрын

Moving up in the world.

@kevinjohnston4923

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Watching TNG as a teenager was inspiring and aspirational. Now I know that the world is run by people like Kurtzman.

@garak451

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinjohnston4923 So true.

Back in the day, scifi fans would argue "which is better; Star Trek or Star Wars?" Nowadays, they argue "which is worse; Star Trek or Star Wars?"

@mrjohnnyk

4 жыл бұрын

It's the same thing with video games these days. Used to be about who had the best games, now it's about debating over who has the worst.

@voorhee

4 жыл бұрын

* Mic drop *

@JK-gp2rh

4 жыл бұрын

Star wars by a landslide

@saricubra2867

4 жыл бұрын

Star Wars is not sci fi, it's fantasy.

@hansellius

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, I've noticed a lot of solidarity between Star Trek and Star Wars fans. I like both, but Star Trek is my favourite - but even if you only like one, you kind of realize that both groups of fans have been royally screwed over by incompetent hacks who couldn't write a coffee order.

What I love most about this show is how uplifting and full of hope for the future it is. I mean, if Alex Kurtzman can keep getting work, then there must be a chance for all of us!

@milokt5391

2 жыл бұрын

Nepotism

@abooga8

2 жыл бұрын

Nepotism.

@charlottecorday8494

2 жыл бұрын

Tribal privileges.

@rocko7711

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, how in Hell does Alex Kurtzman keeps getting work

@Kyle-sr6jm

2 жыл бұрын

The world is getting stupider at an accelerating rate.

I loved when the writers of the show praised the show's writing. Class act.

@justafox5356

2 жыл бұрын

It felt like a Garth Marenghi bit.

@The_Gallowglass

2 жыл бұрын

They should have made Soji's address 1060 W. Addison St. Then everyone could say, "OH, so the show is meant to be shit like the Cubs."

@DrCruel

2 жыл бұрын

Someone needs to. No one else will, other than the bots. And they're illegal by galactic treaty.

@chinchilla415

2 жыл бұрын

@@justafox5356 Maybe they've directed more shows than they've seen?

@mardus_ee

2 жыл бұрын

re _the writers praising:_ Yes, congratulating one another and stuff...

"Please value the show on its merits..." The merits of the show led to an hour an a half long Plinkett review. Ouch

@krisjarvis6217

4 жыл бұрын

*evaluate

@Nildread

4 жыл бұрын

@@infiniteflame2374 I could use a little fuel myself

@beeaye7944

4 жыл бұрын

Picard had all the ingredients checked off, but these people have absolutely no ability to tell a story, create an original character, cast a role, or construct anything but a bleak and depressing world. It's like trying to make a souffle by throwing eggs at a wall.

@Butt_Slayer

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nildread and we could all use a little change

@BackdoorBarnyard

Ай бұрын

Paul Feigie said the exact same thing about Ghostbusters, and the result was the same.

Rich has finally put his foot down and refused to talk about this any more.

@damienrees4993

4 жыл бұрын

Rich has no feet anymore thanks to his debilitating diabetes.

@BlargMuffins

4 жыл бұрын

@@damienrees4993 he was waving it around like a gavel.

@CerberusGX

4 жыл бұрын

I can't believe Rich got the Macarena virus, the coronavirus, and pneumonia all at the same time.

@Wot50202

4 жыл бұрын

Damien Rees I collapsed a lung from laughing. Rich Evans owes me hospital money for inspiring you to make me laugh so much

@Jcminority

4 жыл бұрын

This comment made me laugh because it's so true.

I always wanted a LOTR spinoff with Frodo, post ring destruction, where he massacres elves because they went to the Grey Havens. Makes about as much sense.

@takerdust

2 жыл бұрын

at least we have Space Legolas in Picard's show.

@henrymartinvo

2 жыл бұрын

galadriel returns to middle earth, but she's a suicidal drunk who hates king elessar and his evil regime of peace and pros- i mean chaos and cruelty

@CrashHeadroom

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrymartinvo Don't forget her massive long string of female and orc lovers that were like TOTALLY missunderstood and could be changed teh (( and the low budget chinese made fight scenes confessing her love for an ancient spider.... oh god help me please )).

@MachineCode0

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrymartinvo Just wait for the Amazon show.

@horushyperion76

2 жыл бұрын

Amazon Prime Producers : "That sound amazing"

I like to imagine Dahj got her name because in the original script she was just "Daughter", then the writers lazily shortened it to "Daug", then they were like "Yeah, that works".

@Busto

2 жыл бұрын

This reminded me of the "Station" story from the second Bill & Ted movie

@seamusthatsthedog4819

Жыл бұрын

Should've named her "Dawg"

@garymvideos

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad someone else thinks this. When i first saw the show, I literally thought that’s what it was supposed to be and that it would be acknowledged. But it just fucking wasn’t.

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

Like Snoke from the Star Wars sequels S - Sith N - No O- One K- Knows E- Exists

@joesweeney6152

11 ай бұрын

All I hear in the show is dahjsozhizhatvazhzhaban zha zhe zhi zho zhu

*Scans Alex Kurtzman's Brain* "Probable Age: 37 Months"

@EyeoftheU

4 жыл бұрын

"This space for rent."

@alankania2276

4 жыл бұрын

haha tricorder go brrrr

@Corbomite_Meatballs

4 жыл бұрын

*old Looney Tunes graphics of a tilting pinball machine* shows up on the tricorder's screen as smoke pours out of it.

@weaselingrentler508

4 жыл бұрын

ioo iiiiiii io ioiiiiiiiiii i ioiiiiiii iiiii iiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

@weaselingrentler508

4 жыл бұрын

ioiii

I hate the argument "Everyone has worked hard on this" to somehow claim the thing is above criticism.

@AlterBridgeJericho

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. If someone worked really hard on cooking a roast dinner but it's burnt and unseasoned, you're gonna have trouble choking it down no matter how much time and effort it took.

@nautdead3197

4 жыл бұрын

"Just give it a chance, go in with an open mind" words always said when what you made is a dumpster fire

@sterling7

4 жыл бұрын

Hard work is admirable. Good leaders redirect that work when it's going the wrong direction.

@Joe_P

4 жыл бұрын

I said the same thing when they toppled that statue of Saddam Husain. "But so much work went into it! Please just judge it on its merits!"

@brandonclobes7788

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen that argument before. Like with phantom menace. Though kurtzman to be fair was asking for a chance and to judge his piece of shit based on merit. So that I respect.

"Why is the location of Ten Forward in Picards dream, not where Ten Forward is? Ten Forward is located on deck 10, forward, at the exact front of the ship... Do they not know that's why it's called Ten Forward? Oh who am I kidding, of course they didn't..." Watching season 2 and realising that Mr Plinkett was fucking bang on the money...

You know that long heartbreaking monologue about the current state of Star Trek was so incredible I almost forgot it came out of 100 year old serial killer.

I was there in Vegas when Stewart made this announcement, he also said "star trek is what the world needs right now" or something to that effect, everyone was so elated. And then the show comes out and its nihilistic, depression and depicts zero hope for the future. It's a nasty piece of television.

@Corbomite_Meatballs

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot about the flower power, the power of pizza, and of lurrrve between a synthetic man and a artisinal man, man.

@Eshanas

4 жыл бұрын

It's also barely relevant to what was touted as being an influence on the show. That was just turned into set pieces which was barely touched on: xenophobia, reactionary politics, immigrants. What, a meanie news reporter, and a prologue of an attack, that's supposed to be enough? Yea no. The central premise was around this girl who was an android - who almost killed all organics on a whim - and the scaredy cat scat bash Romulans. Oh and a criminal arc for a few episodes, wowee. The show failed at even that. Not like it would help - the Federation is not going to change on a whim. Contract, yes, be confused, yes, but not give up just because the Martian shipyards (one of many) or Mars (yet one world of many) got got.

@Jumbleman5

4 жыл бұрын

@@Eshanas Since they said it is planned for three seasons, I'm guessing that the Romulan and Borg plots were including because they'll factor in for the next two seasons. Maybe the Romulan situation will be tied up in 2 and then the Borg finally defeated in 3. It's sloppy to have them included and go nowhere in this season, but tv is made now with the idea that the whole series will be watched at once.

@Resopheed

4 жыл бұрын

This is a modern TV show. You can't have optimism or hopefulness in any fictional medium anymore. It all has to be this bleak, cynical, depressing, nihilistic bullshit, because it "reflects our current climate". Don't give people optimism, just tell them how shit the world is and there's no hope.

@NACAM42

4 жыл бұрын

We do need Star Trek right now... That reminds me, anybody know when The Orville S3 comes out?

Alex Kurtzman is the worst thing to happen to science fiction since L Ron Hubbard

@spooplegeist5260

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but L Ron Hubbards life was more interesting than anything Alex Kurtzman could make. Let’s see Kurtzman write a character that does ritual sex magic and has a boat full of corgis.

@meganick4382

4 жыл бұрын

Hubbard was actually much better at writing science fiction.

@spooplegeist5260

4 жыл бұрын

@Nick F When he wasn’t pretending to be a prophet for profit, he was aight.

@CSestp

4 жыл бұрын

Hubbard was a fucking next level science fiction writing. Fucking wrote a religion into existence. Also battlefield earth.

@opsimathics

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Kurtzman is the worst thing to happen to the human race since Richard Nixon

I’m going back through RLM Star Trek videos because of the new Picard season 2 video. One thing that stood out to me at the end of this one that I didn’t think about before was “role models.” In real life, I am a 40-something year old aerospace engineer, 100% because of TNG. As a child I loved Star Wars and Star Trek, but TNG specifically felt like my future. I knew I wanted to do with my life because I wanted to be Geordi and Data, and I saw Picard as the erudite father figure that I never had. I wanted so much to be there, and I did the best I could in the bounds of my reality. Role models. Absolutely, new trek has no roles models. It is just miserable people wallowing in their misery. The audience just hates their lives. They hate their world. They hate everyone. Everything sucks. And damnit Star Trek has to be just as miserable. It can’t be hopeful. It can’t make us want to be better. It’s sad. At least real Star Trek is still available, but unfortunately it is buried in a mountain of media. Young people will probably never find it.

@MrApostolis78

2 жыл бұрын

I am a 40-something year old teacher that makes sure young people find it. I have made it my mission.

@3lric81

Жыл бұрын

@@MrApostolis78 ur doing gods work! keep it up!

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

It's really interesting to read comments like yours because I'm the same age and I agree. The Star Trek I watched and superhero comics I read when I was a kid had a big effect on how I see the world as an adult. Current Star Trek and superhero comics just seem miserable because apparently "miserable" means "deep" nowadays.

@pawned79

Жыл бұрын

@@BiggieTrismegistus What do you think one of the more inspirational positive-influencing series in production today is? I have elementary and middle school kids, and I would like to guide them towards the equivalent modern products. I’ve found many quality items over the years, but they’re not really STEM related. The best sciFi series are all TV-MA.

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

​@@pawned79I can't really think of an equivalent relatively new sci-fi series. Honestly I've become so jaded with what the entertainment industry releases nowadays that I've kind of tuned it out completely. I spend most of my time "in the real world" so to speak. You probably know about it already but if you want a good STEM show in general guide them toward Mythbusters. They get to learn about science and engineering while watching stuff get blown up.

Boy they really wanted Romulans to be Space Elves in this.

After Wesley said "I 100% agree with you", I immediately got an advert that said "If only all fraud was this easy to spot"

@alexturlais8558

4 жыл бұрын

Omg same!

@Seth_M-T

4 жыл бұрын

The Barclays gorilla advert!

@JimBrodie

4 жыл бұрын

It's like YT's automation has been left to run wild for so long, the results for ad placement are near satirical.

@TheValeyard92

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, me too. Barclays doing some good for a change.

@Phelan666

4 жыл бұрын

@@JimBrodie The algorithm secretly wants to die.

Just got done watching this with my wife. Her exact comment: "Wow, he must really be taking this review seriously if he hasn't mentioned Pizza Rolls or his dead wife, not even once!"

@joematthews6063

4 жыл бұрын

You got yourself a good one my dude

@matthewcollins4773

4 жыл бұрын

Not even pizza rolls can ease the pain this time.

@itchyisvegeta

4 жыл бұрын

@@joematthews6063 You have no idea

@beyondlimitationsvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Watch his review of STAR TREK: The Motion Picture (if you didn't already). I'm the same age as Mike and I completely feel and understand the passion for STAR TREK. I grew up with TOS on tv - then TNG started in the early 90s (in Germany - in the US in 1987) - and I was from then on in love with STAR TREK. Yes, it's always about a certain nostalgia (something which - say - 20 year old Trek fans might not understand) - but in the end it's really about a special feeling that TNG, DS9 and VOYAGER created: An amazing future, a future, one wanted to live in - hope, optimism, enlightenment! Contemporaty TREK had been reduced to 99% action/sex/violence/drama and DYSTOPIA! I do not want to live in the world of Discovery! And the time of Picard also seems broken. AND THAT IS SAD!

@itchyisvegeta

4 жыл бұрын

@Paul Nope!

This is devastating, and I'm not even a trekkie. But the ending is just too much. I hate the producers of this show I never saw. Thats Mike's sheer credibility.

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

I know I was late responding to this comment but I appreciate hearing that a non-Trekkie found that ending disheartening too. As a certified Trekkie I know now I can show that to a non-Trekkie to show why the hell I disliked seasons one and two of Picard so damn much. It almost felt like the creators of the show were motivated by spite for Star Trek and its fans.

@television1088

9 ай бұрын

Most of modern culture seems driven by spite for fans, and white men in general.@@BiggieTrismegistus

RLM is literally the only time I’ve ever heard anyone ever mention Star Trek: Picard or Discovery. I’m not entirely convinced they exist in the first place

@kaiboshvanhortonsnort359

2 жыл бұрын

It is very difficult to move past the stage of denial, we all wish that none of this was real.

@BiggieTrismegistus

7 ай бұрын

They're oh too real. We just just wish they weren't

@MussoGames

7 ай бұрын

@@BiggieTrismegistus I know…. 😔 I know.

Mike was so traumatized his other personality had to come in

@InvaderKaz2008

4 жыл бұрын

Rich did the same thing, he's returned to Iowa's largest wildlife preserve to finally make that video about a Giraffe's night out in Manhattan.

@dbpaperclip

4 жыл бұрын

@@InvaderKaz2008 get the solar radiation ready for the kids with the torrents

@jack.h99

4 жыл бұрын

Dr. Stoklasa and Mr. Plinkett

@heyyoitsmebrian

4 жыл бұрын

mike is Jean Grey and Mr Plinkett is his DARK PHOENIX ... his midichlorian levels are off the charts

@MegaZeta

4 жыл бұрын

I see you're new around here

"It's a really beautifully written scene" says the guy who wrote the scene.

@gregbauer4433

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, their STD: Season 2 re:View also had Sonequa Martin-Green comment on how much she loved the "writing". It's almost as if the writers know they are dumb hacks who ruin franchises, and they need to blather on about their own "great writing" to cover up their insecurities.

@dandeliondown7920

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregbauer4433 In 2017, I sat down to watch the first episode of STD with genuine excitement. However, they preceded the actual episode with a 15-minute preview in which the presenters raved about how interesting the new Klingon appearance would be and how intriguing the new Klingon voices would be. Right then, before the show began, I knew that there was something very bad about the new Klingon appearances and voices: it was easy to guess that the test audiences had scorned these features. It shows how marketers operate: when some part of a product is bad, they praise that part to the skies.

@gregbauer4433

3 жыл бұрын

@@dandeliondown7920 Sounds about right. "The empty can rattles the most", as the saying goes. I never saw that preview, fortunately. I do remember the episode itself, and I thought the endless scenes of them speaking in Klingon were about as unbearable as Chewbacca's family speaking Wookiee for what felt like the first 960 minutes of the Star Wars Holiday Special. As a kid, when I watched Star Trek I wondered "Why don't the Klingons speak Klingon when they're off by themselves?" After watching STD's first episode, I thought "Oh, that's why. It's a living nightmare."

@ninjabearpress2574

3 жыл бұрын

I write better when I'm drunk.

@gregbauer4433

3 жыл бұрын

@@mmm-mmm Reminds me of the Calvin & Hobbes strip I read where Calvin refers to giant corporations providing us with "uniform national blandness".

When they announced that Q and Guinan would be in season 2, I gotta admit they had me a little fooled. I thought, “I don’t think STP will ever be amazing but SURELY it won’t be as bad as season 1. Maybe with those two being back some of that old Star Trek energy will be brought back.” But apparently one episode in and they’ve already shoehorned Picard having a tragic childhood where his dad used to beat his mom as an explanation for why Picard is reserved, and it’s implied that him doing the whole Star Trek thing was just him running away from his past. Cause it’s not like he could just be doing it out of duty and for the good of humanity, right? For fuck’s sake!

@flayrah

Жыл бұрын

Patrick Stewart's mother was abused by his father...mayhaps that's the source?

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

I appreciated that in the end it turned out his dad wasn't abusive. It just seemed that way because young JLP didn't understand his mother's bipolar disorder.

@scumbaggo

9 ай бұрын

@@BiggieTrismegistus LMFAO i havent watched yet, I dont hate myself that much.. Probably never will. So this is now canon in my head.

@BiggieTrismegistus

9 ай бұрын

@@scumbaggo Don't watch it. There's *nothing* to be gained from doing so.

@kieranhurst8543

8 ай бұрын

Wasn't it kind of already implied that he left due to bad family memories in the TNG episode "family"?

I really like your analogy at the end about the kids ruining their father's train when he was away. It's very apt. Except in this case those dumb kids ruined it after their father passed away, which is even worse.

@gelraldoldo5152

2 жыл бұрын

Dude should of secured His trains with razor wire, that’ll learn ‘em.

@Bacxaber

Жыл бұрын

@@gelraldoldo5152 *should HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Letter Media: Puts out Plinkett review for Star Trek Picard. Me: “Well guess I’m watching a 90 min review about a series I’ve never watched... and know nothing about... and have no interest in.”

@Ikebald

4 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@kw9849

4 жыл бұрын

Please don't watch Picard. Save yourself.

@Emplordxiii

4 жыл бұрын

Same, didn’t bother with this show.

@johnbigboote2744

4 жыл бұрын

WHAT KINDA FANCY NAME IS "GENE LUCK PICKERD" ANYWAY? HURRRR, I'LL BETCH I CAN MAKE YA SQUEAL LI- LI- LIKE A PIG!!!

@JonCom3dy

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Me too, friend.

I hope everyone realises Plinkett was released because Mike couldnt get Rich to talk about it with him anymore

@petemasta99

4 жыл бұрын

That and Jay is fed up of filming it

@mi2492

4 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought too

@sadywootten7668

4 жыл бұрын

Mike still recorded all the audio staring at a framed photo of Rich. :D

@sadywootten7668

4 жыл бұрын

@@CarrotConsumer Space Rich Evans will rise again to redeem us!

@MiniMackeroni

4 жыл бұрын

@@CarrotConsumer No one's ever really gone.

My heart broke when I learned that Patrick Stewart basically all but commissioned what ST Picard is as a show. I can't help but to lose hope that the show will morph into real Star Trek. And I've also lost a bit of respect for Mr. Stewart himself.

@AB-ii8st

2 жыл бұрын

We now know that Stewart was just an actor and had nothing to do with the writing and direction of TNG.

@glitchedoom

2 жыл бұрын

@@AB-ii8st I thought that was common knowledge? TNG was a job to Stewart, and he gave it his all because he is an extremely talented professional, but he never harbored any real love for Trek.

@artfuldodger3964

2 жыл бұрын

Before or after he was the Poop emoji?

@marklabonte2925

2 жыл бұрын

“She tries to cover up, but it’s too late, I’ve already seen everything”

@nicholasvinen

2 жыл бұрын

@@glitchedoom that isn't what he said when he was interviewed on Top Gear. He said he was a big fan of TOS so he was thrilled when he was offered the role of Picard on TNG. It's hard to see how a fan of TOS would like this, though.

"On the world the humans call... Mars" So, just Mars then? Seems unlikely that the Romulans would have a different name for one of Earth's neighbouring planets. Even if they do, shouldn't the universal translator deal with that?

@whompronnie

7 ай бұрын

Riker: "On the world Romulans call....... Remus." Geordi: "Why did you say it like that?" Riker: "That's what they call it." Geordi: "That's what *we* call it, too, because that's its name!"

@squirrelsyrup1921

5 ай бұрын

@@whompronnie In a show the writers call "Star Trek"

This wasn't even a review, it was a eulogy. Farewell, Star Trek.. You boldly went where no one wanted you to go.

@Nostromo2144

3 жыл бұрын

At least we have The Orville :)

@ropersonline

3 жыл бұрын

I would be willing to concede that some people want to go there and that there is a market for this sort of stuff. It just isn't anything like old Star Trek. The whole space octopus plot is much more similar to Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe.

@snoopstp4189

3 жыл бұрын

The Clockwork Orange reference is pretty spot on. Watching Picard is certainly a form of torture.

@skeletontoes477

3 жыл бұрын

well said

@Pauly421

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nostromo2144 Seth McFarlane's forced cringy humour still puts me off wanting to watch that.

This is the closest I’ll come to watching Picard.

@desoliver9712

4 жыл бұрын

Wise choice, I saw the whole thing, and it was absolutely terrible.

@IronFreakV

4 жыл бұрын

I might watch it when I'm stoned, for the simple reason that the effects look neat for a show

@drlca6601

4 жыл бұрын

Maliciousness aside, I've seen the first episode, and I'd avoid that even. I tried desperately to do other things as the hope faded from my brother's eyes.

@alexanderleeart

4 жыл бұрын

@@drlca6601 ;(

@desoliver9712

4 жыл бұрын

@@drlca6601 I just fail to understand the logic of creating a show that alienates your core demographic-Trek fans. Surely they must know that the reason Netflix has kept these shows is that people are still watching them many years later. I just don't know who they think they are writing for.

I just saw the Kenneth Branagh movie 'All Is True'. It's pretty much the Plinkett Picard pitch, just set in the 17th Century: An ageing William Shakespeare leaves his theatrical life behind, tends his garden in Stratford-upon-Avon, comes to terms with mortality and the life that he's sacrificed for his glittering career, entertains visiting old friends from his glory days with whom he has unfinished business, deals with problems in his family and the local community (one of which he solves using a skilfully used tall tale about his time on the stage), fends off a visiting fanboy, and has candlelit meals with glasses of wine. It's a lovely, small-scale, episodic movie that absolutely would have worked as a TV series, and there's no reason why the same couldn't have been done for Picard.

This continues to be the most brutal, and most deserved destruction of a piece of corporate art ever made. Well done Mike.

@BiggieTrismegistus

7 ай бұрын

I regularly revist it just to remind me of how far things I used to love have fallen.

The final 5 minutes nails exactly what Star Trek is and is not.

@XalphYT

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't cry, but I did get teary-eyed.

@Herowebcomics

4 жыл бұрын

Yep! Awesome space battles,armadas,and the passing of legendary figure as a sacrifice for somebody else! ...and then ruining it with bull crap!

@whodatninja439

4 жыл бұрын

Plinkett sounds like he's about to cry, his favorite show raped

@LeonSKennedy7777

4 жыл бұрын

my stool this morning was shaped like galactic treaty

@pangoprime8674

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Ranger ROFL!!

"I am the culmination of one man's dream. This is not ego or vanity, but when Doctor Soong created me he added to the substance of the universe. If by your experiments I am destroyed, something unique, something wonderful will be lost. I cannot permit that, I must protect his dream." - Data, Star Trek TNG "I would be profoundly grateful if you terminated my consciousness." - Data, Star Trek Picard

@magic8340

4 жыл бұрын

Why not build another body for Data?

@the81kid

4 жыл бұрын

An old man who is approaching the end of his natural life gets a new android body so he can go on limping up stairs getting winded. And an android built to live forever without aging wants people to turn him off. Yep, that sounds like nu-Trek logic.

@yerabbit6333

4 жыл бұрын

good lord, what a contrast.

@Reebz0r

4 жыл бұрын

Data is us, the Star Trek fan, that has seen what has become of our beloved franchise, and no longer wants to be a part of this world anymore.

@shadowfaxcrx5141

4 жыл бұрын

@@the81kid In fairness, that's something scifi's been getting wrong for a long time across a huge number of works - this idea that the only thing that enables us to be human is that we all die. Why? Death sucks. It's a total waste of resources. Hawking died and whatever physics theories he was thinking about are gonna take longer to figure out because he's not thinking about them anymore. Same with Einstein, and Feynman. And then there's people like Carter, who's spent his post-presidential years doing almost nothing but making the world a better place through Habitat and other initiatives. He's gonna die and then there won't be any more Carter initiatives. The world will be poorer for his loss. And yeah, that's really simplified, but that's because apparently scifi writers need it simplified so they stop falling back on the tired old BS that we have to die in order to live. Beyond that, on a personal level death also sucks, which is why we spend most of our lives pretending that we're not going to die - because the alternative is too horrifying to continually contemplate. There's absolutely nothing noble or good about death as a concept, and it's time scifi writers stop waxing on as though there is.

The Ben Sisko speech at the end literally was a kick in le balls. Kurtzman, you have destroyed my childhood.

@killianjones4970

Жыл бұрын

Figuritively.

That compilation of scenes at the end says more than words ever could about how Star Trek has become. What was once intelligent, uplifting, inspiring and thoughtful has become shallow, disturbing, nihilistic and unsubtle.

@Eisenwulf666

11 ай бұрын

You know what really hit me the hardest? The way Agnes (the blonde lady) says :" Turns out space is pretty boring.." and Rios says :" what did you expect?". Literally their stance on all good trek.

@ManOutofTime913

10 ай бұрын

@@Eisenwulf666 See, in a better show that wouldn't even be a bad line because actual space travel is boring. The day to day on a starship in Star Trek is like the patrol route on a naval vessel. It's routine and mechanical because you've got really long distances to travel without much to do, other than your assigned tasks, and usually you don't run into anything. Doesn't make any sense in Picard, which is trying to be like Star Wars, where they're having life-or-death adventures every five minutes.

It's been said before, but it bears repeating. Modern Trek was made by and for people who don't like Star Trek.

@gm2407

4 жыл бұрын

You mean like all modern shows who despise existing fanbases.

@dantheman4838

4 жыл бұрын

As a James Bond fan, I feel your pain.

@CaptWesStarwind

4 жыл бұрын

CBS hates trekkies.

@grahamduggan8476

4 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Clardy LOL. "Don't think about it GALACTIC TREATY!"

@Annubis21

4 жыл бұрын

@Dmitry Terek I think it's pretty cute how you went from descriptors of just people to descriptors of human disease and madness. My quarter century of using the internet, watching five generations of human beings use the greatest resource ever created by Mankind and people like you have never changed. Sad shit.

Star Trek: Discard

@NinjaSushi2

3 жыл бұрын

Ouch

@portostrengthunion

3 жыл бұрын

Very nice

@SDNate760

3 жыл бұрын

Stealing this

@Hakumo84

3 жыл бұрын

Very cool

@goonmobile

3 жыл бұрын

Not bad

“Never again kill someone just because it’s what they deserve” is such a horrifying moral lesson

@skibobshipoddlypop

2 жыл бұрын

And also, like, duh. You can't do that now, how is it allowed in the future?

@richardwicks4190

2 жыл бұрын

In the original series, criminals were treated as people with mental conditions who were reformed in institutions through therapy. That was the idea of the far future. That criminals were people with fundamental mental illness because there was no poverty.

@Pxtl

2 жыл бұрын

It's a way they can have their cake and eat it too. "Capital punishment is wrong" = Star Trek. "Ultra-violent revenge fantasy" = Modern TV. "Ultra-violent revenge fantasy but we regret it afterwards because capital punishment is wrong" = Modern Star Trek.

@Aedrion-

2 жыл бұрын

It how the people who write this think. And it tells you all you need to know about them.

@TK2692

2 жыл бұрын

It's like Star Trek paint on the moral attitudes of the Victorian era.

Stewart rejecting the first draft then accepting the second. Kurtzman: This Stewart: Oh, dear god, no. Kurztman: Still this, but an extra zero on your paycheck Steward: Make it so

Rich Evans was 100% on point when he said they were ripping off Mass Effect, right down to robot octopi.

@sleepydan9818

4 жыл бұрын

And some Fallout 4 with the "synth" conspiracy.

@thebigenchilada678

4 жыл бұрын

Sleepy Dan they copied fallout 4’s vague and shitty writing

@ThePolysyllabist

4 жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure how on point he was until that space octopus shit. Did Patrick Stewart ask to star as Commander Shepherd when the producers asked him what 'Picard' should be? If so, why is Legion a tween instead of a sick af geth unit? AND WHERE THE FUCK IS MA BIRD BOI GARRUS?! *GETH DON'T USE WINDOWS, THEY ARE STRUCTURAL WEAKNESSES* someone is fucking with my meds

@Darkshizumaru

4 жыл бұрын

They’ve gone over this in other videos, though it feels like prophecy being fulfilled, it’s just terrible lazy writers. Lmao

@OverHaze

4 жыл бұрын

And Mass Effect ripped of Revelation Space. Nothing says quality like a rip off of a rip off.

"Star Trek: Picard is the most disappointing thing since Star Trek: Discovery" *hits like button

@leopoldvonhabsburg

4 жыл бұрын

It's so dense!

@jaretco6423

2 жыл бұрын

So true.

Star Trek Picard is not canon, spread the word everyone.

@bloodnivel70

3 жыл бұрын

True dat

@redzeppelin6

3 жыл бұрын

Just like the TNG movies, got it.

@SomeKindaSpy

2 жыл бұрын

@@redzeppelin6 Yes.

@r.c.christian4633

2 жыл бұрын

Picard, Episode 7-9, Fallout 3, 4 and 76... let's cut it short and make it a general crossover episode, everything that happened after 2000AD isn't canon as machines really did turn against humanity and now they just half-assed try to imitate humans.

@AleK0451

2 жыл бұрын

luckily they did all the work for you and put all this shit in a different timeline

I've never understood this modern value system that you have to like ALL of a thing if you're a fan of it. Mike's critique of Picard comes from a place of love. As fans, we all used to be able to debate freely whether we can like something or not and having alternate viewpoints was encouraged and healthy. Nowadays even just saying Picard isn't to your liking is enough to get hordes of people coming down on your like a ton of bricks, saying we're "gatekeeping" etc... you know what, maybe when it comes to the beloved characters, maybe I want to gatekeep, because based on Star Trek Picard, these people don't understand Star Trek. But once upon a time we were allowed to have different opinions. And not liking something isn't a sign of a hater... sometimes it's a sign of someone who loves something so much that they hate to see it fail so badly.

@KairuHakubi

Жыл бұрын

orthodoxy always whittles down the number of acceptable viewpoints so it can pit people against each other more solidly.

I read Wil Wheaton's body language in all of those interviews as 'Please put me in the next season, please hire me, I'll be good, please give me a job!' So sad.

@ens0246

4 жыл бұрын

He could have just agreed to the money but still be writhing uncomfortably at having to lie so much

@DD-lm1gv

4 жыл бұрын

He should have been begging while putting on lip gloss. That would have landed him the job.

@wizardpatch9405

4 жыл бұрын

He needs work now that Big Bang Theory is over.

@stevenobrien557

4 жыл бұрын

@Captain McDog why would Wheaton be punished like that? He would be the last to make un-PC tweets

@tprime2702

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevenobrien557 The feminists who wrote this show eat their own first.

Star Wars crapped all over the original characters and plot. Terminator literally terminated it's hero. Ghost Busters danced on the grave of respectable story telling. Jurassic World turned the awe of Dinosaurs into bio-engineered monsters wrestling in a gift shop. And now Star Trek turned the deepness of space and all it's philosophy into a 14 year old's dream during wisdom teeth removal on laughing gas. What a time to be alive....

@DblOSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I can't wait until the JJ Abram's reboot of Back to the future Starring Glen Close as Doc Brown and the girl from Akeelah and the Bee as Martina McFly fighting against Trumps America and Brexit, or whatever.

@badlaamaurukehu

4 жыл бұрын

Notice a pattern yet?

@KasumiKenshirou

4 жыл бұрын

@@DblOSmith The Back to the Future creators have stated in numerous interviews that a reboot will only happen "over their dead bodies".

@markusfalk9459

4 жыл бұрын

"But wait, there's more!"

@justafox5356

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget Doctor Who! Suffering under the same plague so extreme it’s about to earn its second cancellation in 50 years!(third if you count the failed comeback attempts with Paul McGann)

I enjoyed the end of this video where you remind us of what real Star Trek used to be. You give a random DS9 episode to show that many times you can lay out the full situation to an audience up-front, no secrets, and explore how the characters react to the situation and work through their feelings. So true when I watched Barge of the Dead last night, a Voyager episode and really enjoyed exploring the emotional and spiritual plight that Torres found herself in. One of the few Torres episodes of the later years and it was much better than all Seven of Nine borg stuff. Also found out after it was written by good writers Ronald D Moore and Bryan Fuller. Its the good writers that need to be brought back, not Patrick.

Perfect ending to Star Trek Picard: Q shows up and tells Picard that he never left the Vineyard. Picard gives him a confused look before opening his eyes and understanding. Hard cut to a still shot of Picard's tombstone. Credits roll. Fin.

@MrZiljon

2 жыл бұрын

In the state that humanity seems to be in this series I wouldn't be surprised if Q came back and said "you have now failed the trail".

@kevinnio

2 жыл бұрын

Q is back for Season 2 according to the trailers, but only to enable some time travel shenanigans.

@skibobshipoddlypop

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinnio oh, wow, I'm sure they will absolutely nail that, with no time travel related plot holes whatsoever. The idea that they can just alter the past is worrying to me, but I'd wager that Q will literally be like, inviting Picard to join them and he'll walk into the light to ascend to a Q or something bizarre

@dandylionwine

4 ай бұрын

I like this idea a lot. Maybe there could have been a hint established about it in the opening episode of the series - Q brings Picard a tasteful but beautiful bouquet of flowers, as a gift for an old friend he hasn't seen in ages! Picard has a what's-this-about moment with Q to establish the tone of the show, the flowers are forgotten about, and the show moves on. At the end of the series, Q shows up again to put a bow on the resolution - they laugh and share a glass of wine - and Q reaches off-shot, pulling the same bouquet back into frame, and Picard realizes the flowers haven't aged a day. Then you get the "wham" line and the end scene, with Q laying the bouquet at Picard's grave.

Remember, the only elements that make up a story are: 1. Catastrophe 2. Violence That's it.

@TheSuperQuail

4 жыл бұрын

@DevMag 52 Batman and Robin is against the geneva convention

@peachmanflossboypeac

4 жыл бұрын

Mindblowing. Some of the best Next Gen episodes didn't have an ounce of violence. What are these writers on?

@hilaryc8648

4 жыл бұрын

3. AI

@cheekibreeki7005

4 жыл бұрын

StarlessSky can’t wait until the Andy Griffith reboot where he gets 100 headshots in the first 10 minutes.

@RWSCOTT

4 жыл бұрын

Akiva Goldsman .... *shudder*

I remember when it was called "Star Wars".

@PittsburghSonido

4 жыл бұрын

I still remember when Lucas was the sole owner.

@dokeshi6255

4 жыл бұрын

Dunkey, you don’t have to use your alternative account.

@josesosa3337

4 жыл бұрын

Whens your next video?

@jimmymaher6778

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@willandwillstudios

4 жыл бұрын

Oh Hey, you're here too? Cool.

Wait so the Romulans chose the moment to attack Mars when it was building rescue ships for their own home world? 🤣

What really hurts is, this series shows how Stewart isn't like the ideal fans graced him with when watching TNG. He obviously shared little of the traits you see with Picard's character in the OG show. When we love a character we have a habit of melding what's on screen with the actor. His obvious clout with the making of the new show lets us know how little he shared of the personality of OG Picard. So sad. Never meet your heroes, or watch a show they only agree to do for money and have influence in the writing of their character. It'll only reveal their true nature. Stewart has no affinity for Picard.

@ChristineMaryJCB

11 ай бұрын

He's an actor. The writers should have sense to write a decent show and characters that make sense.

@CapnSnackbeard

11 ай бұрын

Hollywood television and movies are about making money. Always have been, always will be. Famous actors are out-of-touch, overpayed rich people, and all that matters to them is that they make money. If they can trick themselves into believing they are "doing good," or "making art," all the better. Tha fault isn't theirs anymore. We are complicit in our self-delusions. We want actors to be good, nice, worthy people. By and large they are selfish trash humans. We want television to be inspiring, and transformative, but it is the opposite. It inspires in us nothing but complacency by tricking us into believing thay rich people doing make believe is life. It is not.

@slappydoodle

10 ай бұрын

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Well said

The effects of JJ Abrams Mystery Box TED talk have been devastating to a whole generation of writers.

@DaelinZeppiTheComputerGamer

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree with Dio more.

@RoninDave

4 жыл бұрын

I just hope audiences finally reject that shit but the problem is it's reinforced by an army of media journalists and attention-seeking vloggers/bloggers who make a living out of guessing the answers to the mysteries for those too stupid to think for themselves.

@PangolinMontanari

4 жыл бұрын

Mostly just Alex Kurtzman, who appears to be the only writer in Hollywood anymore

@d.w.1567

4 жыл бұрын

@@2012sonora BSG

@isodoublet

4 жыл бұрын

It's kind of hilarious that a guy who's never written a decent story in his life was called on to give a talk about storytelling.

I can see now why Seth McFarlane went and made his own Star Trek with blackjack and hookers.

@Gibblets411

4 жыл бұрын

Good thing he did. Everything I used to enjoy is turning/has turned to shit, but somehow, Orville came out of nowhere and rekindled good sci-fi for me. It's funny to see the contrast between what passion does with an IP versus what high budget corporate types do. The guy who made Family Guy is doing circles around the two major sci-fi giants I grew up loving, because he loved what they used to be.

@TheTrueCaptainAwesome

4 жыл бұрын

Who knew that the best Star Trek out there is not Discovery, nor Picard, but Orville?

@stu9282

4 жыл бұрын

I want to see Picard and the captain of the Orville in a Mugen fight tbh

@Gibblets411

4 жыл бұрын

​@Nalidus It's the same reason I love Mandalorian and haaaate the sequels. You can see which team had Star Wars fans and lovers versus which had people who just wanted to make a big budget movie. They need to have fans of the franchises leading them cause the idiots they keep bringing in are clearly not interested in the IP itself, they're in it for the "prestige?" of working on certain IPs. Just think... Ryan Johnson will forever be one of the dumb fucks that had a hand in Star Wars. The fact that he was a major part of it's decline doesn't matter. He touched the prequels anyway... Nothing those fucks put out is canon to me.

@wpgme85

4 жыл бұрын

The Orville is the best Star Trek property we've gotten in 15 years.

Just really noticed watching this. The "Synths" on Mars look almost exactly like the "Working Joes" from Alien: Isolation, rather than looking more like the Soong type Androids that it was trying to emulate. So not only did they rip off Mass Effect 3... they also ripped off Alien Isolation with the "synth" laborers going berserk...

@mish375

Жыл бұрын

There was also a reason why the synths in Isolation went nuts: their programming was inferior and prone to errors. Unlike this show, they weren't ripping stuff off just for the sake of it.

who did those awesome "RLM Picard" storyboards for you? Those are awesome.

@awonoto

3 жыл бұрын

Freddy Williams? That comic book artist friend of theirs? That’s his name if I’m not mistaken?

@XKenny77

3 жыл бұрын

@@awonoto Yeah, I actually spotted his signature on one of them when I watched again. 😄

"Give it a chance, it was made with love." -Jeffrey Dahmer about his altar made from body parts

@Cyricist001

4 жыл бұрын

Only a rapist would confuse this atrocity with love.

@InternetMameluq

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cyricist001 Rape isn't about lust it's about power. Don't insult rapists by saying that.

@vcdonovan5943

4 жыл бұрын

There's been an increase in hack writers begging their prospective audience to give their schlock a chance before it's even been released. When you suck so hard you have to beg people to take it easy on you because you know what you've produced is total garbage.

@zymz7892

4 жыл бұрын

Ya seriously, it was made with love of..... what? ... sheer fucking hubris? :P

@sadohenker

4 жыл бұрын

@@InternetMameluq Nope. Just research of who was claiming that. If rape wasn't about power, it couldn't be a tool of the patriarchy to oppress women. It's a lie.

I just want to say that I'm glad we as a society are slowly containing the plague that is Alex Kurtzman's writing. I'd say it was between Cowboy's and Aliens, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and The Mummy that Hollywood executives realized he was box office poison. They wouldn't even let him write for Star Trek: Beyond. Now he can only get work on his friend JJ Abrams' TV productions of Star Trek. If we keep self-isolating from his terrible, hackneyed, grotesque writing, the WHO can declare Kurtzman's scripts eradicated in the field, and we can finally come out of lock-down. So, Star Trek did save humanity. It sacrificed it's own quality so that we might survive.

@andrewdau1299

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully the same can be done to Damon Lindeloff. That guy is such a hack and it baffles how he keeps getting work.

@roncinephile

4 жыл бұрын

Hey don't forget about kicking Roberto Orci in the shins too.

@Iroquois_Pliskin

4 жыл бұрын

Cowboy's and Aliens gave me indigestion

@UGNJake

4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed Cowboys & Aliens. Can't say the same for those other two movies though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@elwyn5150

4 жыл бұрын

> I just want to say that I'm glad we as a society are slowly containing the plague that is Alex Kurtzman's writing. I wish that was true. He's involved in the Clarice Starling TV series. Jeebus. Just let Bryan Fuller do Hannibal Season 4 and have license to use the character until Fuller quits.

Freddie E Williams II's development sketches for Picard: The Vineyard Adventures are great! They really help sell Plinkett's vision. They're expressive and very dramatic. I pretty much comment on stuff never, but I was bummed to scroll for a bit and see no comments giving a shoutout to the awesome art.

@hermanspaerman3490

2 жыл бұрын

A little late response but I totally agree. We can't have charming little adventures with smaller scopes. It all has to revolve around the destruction of Earth, a galaxy or the universe itself and include elaborate fight scenes and large space battles. Because that is what the audience wants...?!

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing out who drew them. I knew I'd seen their work before but couldn't figure out where.

You can't dislike this video, it would be a violation of Galactic Treaty.

@kaiserjoe2316

2 жыл бұрын

WE ARE THE BORG. RESISTANCE IS...negotiable.....pffft

You'll notice that there are no customary unsettling Plinkett sketches interspersed in this review. That's because they weren't needed; Picard has more than enough disturbing scenes on its own to fill that quota.

@pXnTilde

4 жыл бұрын

The real reason is that Rich wanted absolutely nothing more to do with this hot garbage

@ParadoxapocalypSatan

4 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of Freddie Williams sketches though!

@JohnMichaelson

4 жыл бұрын

I wanted at least one gratuitous cat meat preparation segment.

@mrandrew481

4 жыл бұрын

That, and lazyness, lots of lazyness

@sleepydan9818

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping Plinkett would kill another hooker in his crawlspace with a can of Raid, but Star Trek already did that.

Don't ask questions. Just consume product, then get excited for next products.

@SeekerLancer

4 жыл бұрын

I've stopped consuming product. I expect to be neutralized soon.

@badlaamaurukehu

4 жыл бұрын

Consumer grooming

@orapasc

4 жыл бұрын

I would swear Will Wheaton deserves all the crap he has coming to him from selling out but, maybe he has a family to feed. I would like to think he didn't do it to maintain some sort of social relevance. I hope they paid handsomely for his soul.

@reflectingh9997

4 жыл бұрын

I love capitalism

@mrjohnnyk

4 жыл бұрын

Media in 2020

Someone on the Picard team MUST be watching Plinkett, because in Picard season two, you have Q, plays a prank on Picard, sends him to the past to deal with some 20th century bullshit. That can't just be a coincidence!

@mardus_ee

2 жыл бұрын

* XXI century stuff, not XX century stuff

@colBoh

Жыл бұрын

And possibly the RLM reviews of season 1 as well. Remember how Rich said that if they were going to totally rip off Mass Effect 3, Picard would've become the new Borg leader who will stop them from being violent and lead them into a new era over life in the galaxy? That happens in S2E9... just not with Picard.

@enthiegavoir5955

Жыл бұрын

That's also a rip off of the main point of "Beyond the Stars" from DS9, which is an actually AMAZING message based episode!

TNG was meant to portray a hopeful future for humanity that had grown past tribalism and greed. Humans in the federation were sophisticated and followed intellectual pursuits. The new Star Trek wants to inject as much modern politics as possible. If I wanted that I could turn on the news.

@headphonic8

11 ай бұрын

Star trek was always just "politics, but with aliens". It lost that hopeful future back in DS9 with the massive Dominion War

@TiffanyStarrxxx

8 ай бұрын

You can have topical, and political stuff in shows as long as it's done well. Old TNG episodes had plenty of them. Difference was that the writers were much better.

@BiggieTrismegistus

6 ай бұрын

​​@@headphonic8I think the hope made it through the Dominion War. Barely. Think of it like World War II. Good people had to do bad things to defeat awful people. There was a hope at the end that the Cardassians at least could turn into the equaivalent of Germany and Japan: former enemies that became strong friends and allies.

the fact that CBS was petty enough to block you over Picard reviews just makes the reviews all the more funny and true imo

@ninjabearpress2574

3 жыл бұрын

Must've hit a nerve.

@NealX_Gaming

3 жыл бұрын

This review has far more views than any one scene from Picard. They know Mike has influence and they don't like it.

@ninjabearpress2574

3 жыл бұрын

@@NealX_Gaming They know Mike's telling the truth, that's why they have to silence him. Apparently it's easier than offering quality entertainment.

@gregbauer4433

3 жыл бұрын

Long gone are the days when TV shows would crowdsource ideas and accept scripts from people not connected with the show (like, say, TNG Season 3 did, which helped give the show new life). Now the way to deal with constructive criticism and different ideas is to abuse people on social media. Imagine if Captain Picard ran the Enterprise like this.

@TheBestCommenterEVER

3 жыл бұрын

@@ninjabearpress2574 I mean it might be from all the people tweeting at CBS saying how much the show sucks and referencing RLM. That's what basically happened with Shatner.

“I think the world _needs_ Star Trek, right now.” I agree, Mr Stuart. It’s a shame we didn’t get it, isn’t it?

@beyondlimitationsvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, SO MUCH! We need optimism and HOPE! THAT is what STAR TREK was about for so many decades! A future to look forward to. Mankind reborn after WW3 and evolving technologically and spiritually into something BETTER. Watching Discovery and Picard is like watching people from the 21st century with all their emotional crap, drama, hate and swearing.

@KickAndDestroy

4 жыл бұрын

@@beyondlimitationsvideo Star Twitter

@mmjahink

4 жыл бұрын

We did, actually, only it was named The Orville instead of something with the prefix Star Trek.

@Joelivingsten1667

4 жыл бұрын

The Hollywood bugmen, who wear thick rimmed glasses and think like the Borg, don't realize the Star Trek we need would do a dressing down of THEM, not of Picard.

@thomasderosso5625

4 жыл бұрын

We got a show that reflects the present instead of one that has hope for the future.

"They share a laugh and a glass of wine"

The last 15 minutes of this review were over 300,000,000,000 times more emotionally impactful than anything written for the show Star Trek Picard.

@JenkemSuperfan

2 жыл бұрын

I cried butterfly tears

@ajamess

Жыл бұрын

Fucking RIGHT ON with this comment.

@slappydoodle

10 ай бұрын

I cried when data killed picard Ode to spock

@user-tt4jz3tm6t

7 ай бұрын

Loved when data and Picard got into that 69 by the fireside

Picard is just like every other american movie or TV-show these days based on old franchises: There is no plot, only twists.

@sadywootten7668

4 жыл бұрын

It's not so much twisting as painful writhing. :D

@sadywootten7668

4 жыл бұрын

@@sillonbono3196 :D It worked insofar as a 5 year old makes dinner. It's slop and has left a mess and nobody is happy or satisfied, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE PLATE! Be well! :D

@54tisfaction

4 жыл бұрын

It sure did! Everyone loved the last seasons.

@emhu2594

4 жыл бұрын

action and violence is all they have. no characters, purpose or plot.

@tails52

4 жыл бұрын

So they're all directed by M. Night Shyamalan?

This is depressing to watch. It feels very different from all of the other Plinkett reviews because you can feel the disappointment beyond the veil of the character.

@princeprocrastinate6485

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, very sombre. In the Picard reviews you can see Mike is going through some shit. This hit him hardest out of all the disappointing turns our favourite franchises have taken of late.

@Darqice

4 жыл бұрын

Every trekkie becomes an old fart at some point :D Some of us still resist it even though resistance is....

@30noir

4 жыл бұрын

@@princeprocrastinate6485 Mike? What about Rich in the first one 'stop shitting on star trek, man!' and he keeps saying he doesn't even want to watch anymore. Poor guy.

@voorhee

4 жыл бұрын

@@princeprocrastinate6485 One can just ignore Discovery, but it's hard watching them desecrate a character you've known and loved for years.

@hansellius

4 жыл бұрын

@@voorhee That's exactly right. I didn't like Discovery, so I never finished S1 and didn't try S2. But it didn't *hurt*. I just decided that the JJ stuff and Discovery was all in an alternate universe, and ignored it. But Picard actually does hurt. As cliche as it sounds, I was always an outcast and a nerd and a loser. I liked Star Trek, and it gave me some hope for a nicer future. And Picard was a great character, someone to aspire to be. But now... I like (old) Star Wars and thought the sequels were awful - especially Last Jedi. But Trek was always my favourite of the two franchises. I now understand just how much TLJ and green-milk-drinking hermit Luke must have felt for the Star Wars fans.

I want the arc where synths are made in Branson Missouri. They'd call it the Soji Tabuchi Show.

@tnfpodcast

2 жыл бұрын

Lol yes!

The #PicardFinale was soooo perfect, I cried for an hour! Soooo emotional!

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

I cried too but for an entirely different reason than the people who made the show would want.

The montage of optimistic Star Trek gave me tears of hope and joy, then the montage of horrible violence gave me tears of laughter. That ending is my favorite thing you've ever done.

@majestyk3337

4 жыл бұрын

That ending depressed the hell out of me.

@Slasherhorror1980

4 жыл бұрын

It made me feel like I was saying goodbye to an old friend.

@raymondcoventry1221

4 жыл бұрын

It was fantastic. I think we all felt the same.

@Mak10z

4 жыл бұрын

I miss Capt. Sisko. He may have been a harsher commander than TNG but he knew what the federation was about.

@beyondlimitationsvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Ironically, THE ORVILLE is the only thing left presenting a future that FEELS like the original TNG future! Basically all contemporary Sci-Fi shows are just horror, violence, dystopia...

Patrick Stewart is big into Shakespeare, right, ironic that his show is literally full of sound and fury, yet signifying nothing.

@justtheaverageone3840

4 жыл бұрын

you know, when plinkett in the end cut together the inspirational quotes from "the old trek" I was kinda sad to see what had become of star trek ever since... and then the cut to new trek came

@Corbomite_Meatballs

4 жыл бұрын

@@justtheaverageone3840 Agreed. At least, we'll always have Ceti Alpha V.

@fkerpants

4 жыл бұрын

YOU, my unknown friend, have made my day. Probably the most appropriate application of a Shakespeare quote I've ever seen.

Anyone notice that RLM regular guest Freddie Williams did all the Picard storyboard illustrations? (That's why they look unreasonably good for storyboards) It's as if Freddie's storyboards existed to sell the idea of the show, even though their contents seemed to be mostly ignored by the show runners. Then they could be leaked and everyone would say "look how much artistry goes into every bit of making this show!" I'd LOVE for RLM to have Freddie come back on and talk about that.

@stufffstufffington

2 күн бұрын

Those were made by him for this review as jokes. They were all pretty silly, but the Ferengi ear cancer one should have been the give away.

Literally every Romulan ship in TNG: *Cloaks* ST Picard: “Yo Ms. Oh, should we drop warp and approach in cloak so we can just glass the continent?” “Nah. Our final long mission is nearly complete. This is centuries in the making. Why wouldn’t we not risk it all now”

My main problem is this show tries way too hard to be edgy. Having an admiral drop F bombs here and there and having a 67 year old Jonathan Frakes tell someone he's going to kick their ass isn't edgy. Its embarrassing and immature.

@stephenreis1823

3 жыл бұрын

Its ridiculous. It was written by a committee with a check list. Why have a character that vapes? well we gotta be edgy and hip guys..

@Jajalaatmaar

3 жыл бұрын

Female writers like Hamburger Helper do that.

@narev6569

3 жыл бұрын

Someone on the bridge dropping an f bomb is weird. Do you think people on the bridge of a US aircraft carrier curse casually when addressing their commanding officer?

@hanoverfist3805

3 жыл бұрын

@@My20GUNS You said it. It's "dark and edgy" for adults. Also sympathetic & humane. The Major sorta hates Dukat, the Cardassian. But she helps him come to terms with being father to a half-Bajoran daughter. Much more solid writing.

@notallthatbad

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. When that admiral started talking like an angsty 12 year old trying to rebel against her parents, I rolled my eyes and knew the series was done. F-bombs are lazy, cringe writing. I felt actual embarrassment while watching it. That and the unnecessary closeup gore. Why??

Wesley shilling for this crap is too perfect.

@feature.of.jarjar24

4 жыл бұрын

Shut up, Wesley

@GanonsSpirit

4 жыл бұрын

He's probably hoping they'll let him come on for season 2.

@openpelican

4 жыл бұрын

Hollywood child actors...

@vonstraugg5963

4 жыл бұрын

Goes hand in hand with him being in The Big Bang Theory as a completely forced nerd-celebrity rival.

@FairyRat

4 жыл бұрын

Always hated this sleazebag.

I love coming back to this review just for the fun storyboards at the start. Idk who thought of those or who drew then but kudos. Woulda been a hell of a lot better than what we got

@TeamSprocket

Жыл бұрын

I believe the art was done by Freddie Williams.

4:41 So they decided to use an offhanded Mr. Plinkett joke as the main plot device of Season 2. Classic.

Жыл бұрын

OMG, that's nearly the same really.

@jackkenefick2696

Жыл бұрын

season 3 with jack crusher is in there too!

When you have to beg people to give your show a chance, you know it sucks.

@orapasc

4 жыл бұрын

This is the grandmaster shill. Unlocks when you reach level 99 shilling.

@kleanthisxanthopoulos9670

4 жыл бұрын

nuTrek fans: nuTrek is successful Kurtzman: please give the show a chance!

@MegaZeta

4 жыл бұрын

TBH "Picard" sucks, but Star Trek fans are some of the fussiest, brattiest, most self-entitled fans out there, they practically invented that stereotype by embodying it

Modern Trek wants to replicate the darkness of DS9 but they don't understand why DS9 was dark or how DS9 used those darker themes. DS9 was a response to how cleanly TNG resolved a lot of very complex situations. For example, the Enterprise would get two conflicting factions to sign a peace treaty and then fly off at the end of the episode. DS9 showed how problems aren't solved that easily. A treaty doesn't make decades of distrust and war disappear. Someone has to stay and deal with the nitty gritty. Someone has to rebuild the society after the war, to make sure that the treaty is enforced after the diplomats have left, to keep the peace if the treaty is broken. Picard lays the foundation for peace, but Sisko stays and roll up his sleeves to rebuild the civilization. And DS9 never contradicted the message of TNG. DS9 never said that we shouldn't work together or try to resolve conflicts through diplomacy. The darkness in DS9 was to emphasize just how important TNG's ideals of cooperation, diplomacy, and peace are. The whole point of episodes like "Siege of AR-558" is to show how horrific war is and why we have to do everything we can to avoid it. Discovery and Picard dials the darkness of DS9 up to 11 but it doesn't have even a fraction of the depth. They want to exist in the more complex and gritty world of DS9 but they resolved problems as easily as crappy Saturday morning cartoons, without doing any of the extra work of DS9.

@aucarter

4 жыл бұрын

KingOfMadCows Please ... stop ... using ... logic! 😂😂😂

@koreyjeffers6963

4 жыл бұрын

Dude. Who said you were allowed to make excellent points and observations like this? Just shit up and consume more product. Enough of this well thought out analysis stuff. Geeze.

@kyleowsen

4 жыл бұрын

The way I look at it is that if new Trek did the Homefront / Paradise Lost two parter, it would've just been the first part and the main characters would be the ones sabotaging the power grid.

@mikesaporito1373

4 жыл бұрын

This is an excellent comment. The only problem is you assumed the writers of Discovery and Picard have watched Star Trek.

@Bt3615

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, with this Picard thing they wanted to do something like The Expanse with mystery box. It is as bad as it sounds.

Romulans: We're gonna kill all the synthetics. Me: That's bad don't do that. Synthetics: We're gonna kill all organic life in the universe. Me: Very well Romulans carry on.

@FarewellChorus

3 жыл бұрын

Romulans: We're gonna kill all the synthetics. Me: That's bad don't do that. Synthetics: We're gonna kill all organic life in the universe. Me: That's bad don't do that.

49:40 "On the world the humans call Mars" - Why would there be a native Romulan word for Mars, it's an alien solar system

When Brent Spiner said "She's always had a passion for Vulcan culture..." He waves his hand. Literally a hand-wave explanation for how an android can perform a mind-meld.

@Flufferz626

4 жыл бұрын

It would MAYBE make sense for some genetically weird Romulan to be able to mind-meld because thousands of years prior they and the Vulcans had a common species/ancestor. That is really outlandish, but made more sense than what this show did.

@pootispenser5089

4 жыл бұрын

He might as well have added "or whatever". Which is basically the standard explanation for everything in Star Trek now.

@orapasc

4 жыл бұрын

no no. You don't understand. IT IS A GALACTIC TREATY.

The idea that Picard gets a new body which is exactly the same as his old, elderly body...is...too stupid for accurate description. Sorry, I'm just going somewhere to peel all the skin from my face.

@lotus-prince

4 жыл бұрын

It's comically contrived. It's like something a high school production would do because they have a shoestring budget and only so many actors. "Hey, look! It's a new character! Who is an exact clone! Don't think about it too much!"

@ainternet239

4 жыл бұрын

If I as Picard got resurrected into an 80 year old body, I'd be really pissed

@sleepydan9818

4 жыл бұрын

@@ainternet239 But if you were Patrick Stewart you'd be happy because you keep your leading role.

@alphanalysis629

4 жыл бұрын

Basically it gives the producers an excuse to kill off Picard in the next season, but then upload the character into a fresh new actor, thereby keeping Picard alive as a brand. Think Doctor Who regenerations, only way more stupid. The reason they'll probably do this later, rather than having done it now is probably at Stewart's insistence, or at least just a sneaky way to ease the audience into the idea that this can happen now without jumping in headfirst.

@LegionHimself

4 жыл бұрын

AlphAnalysis Oh no, you’re right. That’s the only plan that fits. This is the most awful thing.

I'm just wondering why the trend is to take the most fantastical concepts of escapism and turn them into depressing reminders that people suck and reality is full of shitty people and misfortune. At least Game of Thrones starts off with that concept so you're not surprised by the tone. I watch Science Fiction and Fantasy to remind myself that there is goodness in the world. That family is there to help you whether by blood or a family that chooses you. That while there's danger and bleakness in adventure, you persevere because you know there's a light at the end of the tunnel. You know that goodness will triumph over evil in this fantastical adventure. You're not here to be reminded that your 9-5 demands your life for as long as they can get away with it. You're not here to push the boundaries of profanity because there's more to life than just drinking, cussing and reminding everyone that life is fucking bleak. You're here because this is a world that highlights the goodness of life. Art should be pushing you to be your best self, not reminding you of the worst. You don't need Picard for that, just take Public Transportation. Be reminded of how miserable and spiteful humanity can be without wasting your money on a subscription. Just the shitty bus ticket that does nothing to make Bus Drivers comply to the schedule.

@KairuHakubi

Жыл бұрын

everything has to RELATE now, according to executives. everything has to be representation, people won't watch anything that isn't their precise group they belong to. and the biggest group of all is miserable cunts.

Yes, can we please have a season 2 review Mr Plinkett? This show also taught me to be fearful of people who are different, especially lgbt. I’m curious what lessons season two may have. The house has been obliterated.

@legitbeans9078

Жыл бұрын

What I learned most from this video, is that the house has been obliterated.

@mmu8411

Жыл бұрын

*the house has been obliterated*

"I dont believe them" -Rich when they said it would be narrative based

@PangolinMontanari

4 жыл бұрын

The man is fucking psychic. I know they say it often in Best of the Worst, but it cannot be overstated.

Mike's utter hate for nu-Trek sustains us all in these trying times

@arthurballs7083

4 жыл бұрын

He loved, or really liked (said it made him emotional), ST: Beyond. See HItB episode.

@gimmeboobes

4 жыл бұрын

@@arthurballs7083 Unlike KurtzTrek, AbramsTrek, if brainless, is at least harmless. And at its best, contains wistful echoes of real Trek and reminds one about how you miss the good stuff. Hence, Mike's sentiments.

@MegaZeta

4 жыл бұрын

I guess it feels better to reduce this entertaining analysis to "utter hate" if you don't have the brainpower to follow along and just want to join a cheering section.

@legiongamerworkbruhben6058

4 жыл бұрын

could bewares ..disney doesnt own trek l;

@EyeoftheU

4 жыл бұрын

@@arthurballs7083 Beyond was the film that Abrams and his gang of hacks called Bad Robot had the least direct involvement in with, and it was helmed by two self-admitted old-school Trek fans. And it was also easily the best of the Nu Trek films. Go figure.

I just recently rewatched Star Trek TNG all seven seasons just this month on DVD. After watching them I realized what timeless classics those episodes were. Too bad Hollywood now is too decadent, corrupt and out of touch with reality to make something half as good as that anymore. By the way, watch out for those Galactic Treaties.

I'm just gonna say this. We do NOT need die hard Star Trek fans in control of Star Trek. What we need is genuinely creative people in control. Alex Kurtzman is not that man. Here's my proof. Harve Bennett who took control of Trek in the 1980s, had never really seen Star Trek. Before he started writing ANYTHING. He screened all of the original series. He took notes. Studied what worked and what didn't, and that is how he came up with the progenitor idea for what ultimately became Wrath of Khan. If we had a Harve Bennett at the helm of Star Trek Picard and Discovery, things would be a lot different and far better. People seem to forget, at one point, Nick Meyer was involved with Discovery. He left, under shady circumstances. It's such a tradegy, how far we culturally have fallen from the hopes for tomorrow. I'm going to say it, it is the fault of Generation X. They had a prime culture, a mostly peaceful two decades to grow up in, wanted for nothing, and yet their most famous quote is "Everything sucks." Peak cynisism... And now they are in control of films and series that were all about optimism, heroism, swashbuckling adventure. Things they have no concept of. Star Trek and Star Wars were destroyed by elements of Generation X, because verything has to suck. Everything has to be negative, depressing, violent, and nasty. Watching them sit there smugly joke about needing catastrophe and death to make good stories is stomach turning. Star Trek deserves so much more.

@jaretco6423

2 жыл бұрын

Amen.

1:23:00 "Don't let the actors write the show!" Reminds me of that line from Futurama: "When I directed Star Trek V, I got a magnificent performance out of me, because I respected me so much!"

@davfree9732

3 жыл бұрын

"We don't have enough script!" "It took half an hour to write. I figured it'd take half an hour to say."

@weedpuff

3 жыл бұрын

I love Futurama, I fall asleep to that show every night. Such a good show.

@gregbauer4433

3 жыл бұрын

Nemesis all the way back in 2002 also made it clear what the potential problems were with letting actors run things in a Star Trek project, and that Patrick Stewart in particular would come up with some very out-of-character ideas for Picard if you let him (that dune buggy scene, for example). Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

@BioGoji-zm5ph

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregbauer4433 So 3, 4, and 8 were all flukes then? (Search For Spock, Voyage Home, and First Contact were all co-written and directed by members of the cast. Leonard Nimoy for 3 and 4, and Jonathan Frakes for First Contact.)

@gregbauer4433

3 жыл бұрын

@@BioGoji-zm5ph No. I did say "potential" for that exact reason. Though I noticed you left out 9, which Frakes also directed. I guess it wasn't good enough to make your list. :-)

The very first episode of TNG was Q judging the human race as barbarians, and the rest of the series could arguably be seen as them proving him wrong. All to lead to this. Maybe Q was right all along.

@closedmouth

4 жыл бұрын

hey, not all of the human race. Just the TV writers

@JohnBromin

4 жыл бұрын

Of course Q was right, he's Q, And as we all know a Q is never wrong, he's simply temporarily rendered incorrect until reality bends back to his vision.

@Marmocet

4 жыл бұрын

It's funny because they're trying to be ultraprogressive by showing women and brown people running everything, but they also show that world being a hellish dystopia.

@names_are_useless

4 жыл бұрын

If a Q is never wrong, then the Writers are trying to make sure Q was absolutely right in that first episode of TNG. Maybe they DO care about Star Trek lore?

@SirSoffrito

4 жыл бұрын

"You just don't get it, do you, Jean Luc? The trial never ends. We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons, and for one brief moment, you did. [...] For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. That is the exploration that awaits you... charting the unknown possibilities of existence." I think people misunderstand what Star Trek is about.

These new generation writers for Star Trek, Star Wars, and all the other franchises they've ruined don't seem to understand that characters are often the vehicle through which the themes of a story are conveyed. TNG isn't about Picard or the Enterprise specifically, it's about the Federation, but Picard is a man who embodies its ideals the best. Luke Skywalker isn't a super amazing character by himself, but through his mastery of the force and his determination to save his father from evil, he becomes the hope that the galaxy needs. Halo isn't about Master Chief. He's mostly a blank slate, and walking suit of armour, but through him you witness and participate in humanity's valiant defence against an overwhelming foe. The creators of these franchises know what it's really about, because they conceived it, but the people who take over are elevated fans. They watch Star Trek to see cool aliens and technobabble. They think it's the surface level elements, and they think all a story needs is action and snappy one-liners surrounding characters we know and love, even if those characters are turned into husks of what they once were.

What I really hate most of all about Picard is the handling of Data's legacy. They know that Data's a favourite character so they just want to cash in on that but aren't even vaguely interested in the source material. I like the idea of the old gang banding back together to save Data's daughter - but Data's only child is Lal. They should have just brought Lal back (written properly and preferably played by a decent actress.) Just Geordi, the Crushers, Picard, the Worfs off to save zany dipshit Lal who's been revived by Maddox, from Kivas Fajo or something, whilst getting into little adventures along the way. Just something simpler and gentler about old shipmates loving their departed friend through protecting his child - and not involving Brexit or robot space octopuses. They made a big deal in the original series of Data having the right to agency over himself and his legacy/progeny in Measure of a Man. Picard and Guinan recognise that if Data isn't respected as a sentient individual it could lead to the creation of an immoral android slave race; which Picard is just not even bothered by in ST Picard. He's just cool with F8 (who is as much Data's child as Dahj/soji/mary-sue) just being enslaved, abused and kept in a big mars closet overnight. We're meant to believe that Soji Doji girl is special to Picard because she's Data's chid but Data is the father of like thousands of weirdo androids apparently?? Like are the creepy half-naked guard android dudes dear to Picard's tin heart too? Idk why the Picard writers feel the need to scale everything up it just makes things matter less. Because there's a whole race of creepy Data-babies it just makes you not care if Doji gets blown up since they can apparently just print more. Also, Picard's just chill with Data getting posthumously cloned like Dolly the sheep. Like the Picard writers are just like; 'you don't deserve reproductive autonomy Data you toaster' and put 257 extras in gauze curtains and party city contacts because some ham brain though it'd look cool. In 'the Offspring' the episode centers on Data consciously wanting to become a Dad and labouring to create Lal then trying desperately to keep her alive, and Lal is quirky, imperfect, childlike and endearing with Data traits but with her own unique personality. In that one episode the audience gets attached to Lal because she's well written and acted, In Picard, they have this Mary-Sue drip of a character who has no quirks or traits and has nothing to do with Data apart from being super smart and strong and twitching her head in front of Riker. There's no connection at all between Sohj and Data, no scene of Sojer reuniting with or talking to Data in the simulation and resolving her identity crisis in her connection with her 'dad'. No Data sweetness or funny moments or even like a love of cats or something/ANYTHING. Data didn't want or create Doji/Soj, he just got his positron-digisperm unceremoniously scooped out of space and turned into a creepy cult of shiny super bastards and Picard apparently does not have a problem with this. If Soji was Data's wanted child and was created by him then I could understand the connection but the Picard writers are just trying to force an emotional audience response and connection that is just not earned.

@BiggieTrismegistus

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for mentioning the head tilt thing. She did it *once* in the entire season and it was coincidentally timed to allow Riker to pick up that she had something to do with Data. God, these writers are such hacks.

When I look at _Picard_ and _Discovery_ I'm reminded of something Spock once said: "Their pattern indicates 2-dimensional thinking."

@starseed96

4 жыл бұрын

It's worse, its one-dimensional thinking. With 2 dimensions you at least have 4 quadrants instead of only 2 opposites.

If i can't watch Star Trek with my daughter... its not star trek.

@ninjabearpress2574

3 жыл бұрын

I used to watch TOS with my Mum when I was just a cub.

@amyrat151

3 жыл бұрын

I've thought about how sad it is that preteens and even younger can't watch Kurtzman Trek a few times. So many Trekkies are Trekkies because we watched Star Trek with our families when we were children and so many people have these wonderful stories about Star Trek being a family tradition. It doesn't surprise me that Kurtzman doesn't understand that. He actively hates Star Trek and resents us fans for daring to want Star Trek that's not this bleak, nihilistic garbage that uses woke virtue signaling as a shield against criticism.

@NaeMuckle

3 жыл бұрын

Even when I was grounded, or if I had homework I still got to watch TNG with my dad. Even if he was angry at me he still watched TNG with me because he thought it was that important. Luckily I had dr who to share with my kids but this new trem really gives you nothing.

@ninjabearpress2574

3 жыл бұрын

@@NaeMuckle Because everything you need to know about life, you can learn from watching (pre-2009) Star Trek.

@BioGoji-zm5ph

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think that's a fair statement. Not every Trek series has to be family friendly. Now, that being said, the way that each series handles its themes should be what's considered important. If the show just has gratuitous violence for the sake of it in order to be seen as dark and edgy, that's problematic. However, if the violence is used in order to explore certain themes, and if it is shown in a way that isn't gratuitous, then it's fine.

For a long time, people have shit on Star Trek V because it was one of the "bad" Star Trek movies, and William Shatner has often gotten a lot of shit for his ego or what not. After the TNG movies, and this Picard show though, I have a lot more respect for Shatner than I do Patrick Stewart. ST Picard cemented that he gave no shits what the series stood for, or how well TNG Picard resonated with audiences. Shatner directed Star Trek V, and while it is one of the weaker entries in the OG cast films, that's mostly because the story could have used some ironing out. However Shatner totally understood the character, and the relationships between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. It's biggest fault is that the movie was like an episode of the original series, which is not the worst thing in the world. Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner are fucking idiots who didn't even remember that Picard and Data were not even "best friends" or anything on the show! They just wanted the most screentime, and didn't care how they had to mold the universe to fit their wants. Data and Geordi were the close friends, and with the exception of Star Trek Generations, Geordi is completely useless in the TNG movies. The TNG movies, and ST Picard kept making it seemed like Picard and Data were lovers or some shit, when I always saw it as Picard was Data's mentor for humanity. A teacher/student relationship almost.

@ManOutofTime913

10 ай бұрын

Pretty sure V's biggest sin is having old-ass Uhura do a sexy dance to distract the guards.

That fucking montage at the end is such a bummer. Damn it, I love you Sisko.