imagine needing to use matrix math to understand which conjugation you need to use

@Raykkie

8 ай бұрын

Can confirm that's how French works

@CoPoint

8 ай бұрын

...which leaves only two possibilities: - young members of that race can only learn their language after being old enough to comprehend matrix math (but in what language would matrix math, and anything else, for that matter, be taught up to then 😵? - at some point, they just went "oh, to **heck** with it..." and integrated the ability to comprehend that aspect of their mathematics / their language / why not just the whole language, while they're already busy in there, into their genome, in one way or another... Dammit, just thinking about _this one little corner case_ of that language gives me a headache 🥴...

@gunngg908

8 ай бұрын

@@Raykkie 💀whar

@deryckchan

8 ай бұрын

Can confirm that's how I read Ancient Greek

@Monoryable

8 ай бұрын

Alternatively, matrix multiplication exam is a prerequisite for using a time machine

Finally, a language with which I can describe games of "5D chess with multiverse timetravel".

@astralnekomimi

8 ай бұрын

I just watched a video on that lmao. It's really trippy

@gastonmarian7261

8 ай бұрын

The way people keep coming up with descriptive models for moving through higher dimensions, it's like a need for it is soon to burst over the scene of culture

@StuffandThings_

7 ай бұрын

@@gastonmarian7261 Fr, there seems to be an interest around 4D games too. There's a 4D golf game in development, and I'm waiting for 4D Miner to take off.

@theapexsurvivor9538

7 ай бұрын

​@@gastonmarian7261well logically, if you were from a future where humanity was woefully underprepared for gaining access to 5 dimensional multiversal time travel, the solution is to plant the necessary concepts and information at a reasonable juncture for it to become a cultural staple that most people will know about in time for the breakthrough...

@justseffstuff3308

5 ай бұрын

BRO same, on waiting for 4D miner to take off. I just keep wondering when it's gonna get properly popular.

"Huh, a language that only uses diphthongs and no single vowels? That's a pretty cool idea actual-- oh, triphthongs, too... ok th-- wait, WHAT DO YOU MEAN TETRAPHTHONGS"

@amandasunshine2

8 ай бұрын

ALL THE THONGS

@lorefox201

8 ай бұрын

it fails in lacking at least one Pentathong

@ze_rubenator

8 ай бұрын

@@lorefox201*pentaphthong

@fedeonio555

8 ай бұрын

My language has one lesgoo

@NoriMori1992

8 ай бұрын

-Wouldn't it be "tetraphtongs"?- Edit: Looks like it got fixed. …Oh jeez, and I misspelled it in my correction. That's "Muphry's law" for you! ("Muphry" is misspelled on purpose, look it up on Wikipedia.)

in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy it mentions a linguist who attempted to make new verb forms for time travel. They never caught on.

@user-ef8kc4rv7n

8 ай бұрын

And hitchhikers guide only has terminator/interstellar/prisonerofazkaban time travel so it's far less confusing

@NStripleseven

8 ай бұрын

Gotta love that “you can have on-book haventa forewhen presooning returningwenta retrohome”

@space__idklmao

8 ай бұрын

I willan have-be loverey deleled this concept

@pierreabbat6157

8 ай бұрын

Dan Streetmentioner, right?

@HappyBeezerStudios

8 ай бұрын

give it time, you might not be ready for it, but your kids are gonna love it.

Now to just apply some language drift across multitudes of timelines and time travellers and you’ve got yourself the foundation of a timeless storyline.

@CoPoint

8 ай бұрын

...and/or the grandfather (-paradox🤭) of all wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey tempora-linguistic messes ever conceived... Darnit, now I want to read this 😁...

@EmergencyTemporalShift

8 ай бұрын

I feel like language Drift wood be less because you're constantly talking with Time travelers of every time

@Kram1032

8 ай бұрын

@@EmergencyTemporalShift there is a time line for any conceivable and inconceivable amount and type of language drift.

@user-fr1fk9mn2i

8 ай бұрын

this is a multiversal setting the grandfathers paradox does not apply here@@CoPoint

@quizzly_6114

8 ай бұрын

@@CoPoint Could the grandfather paradox even occur in a time travel system such as presented? As your original timeline would still exist, meaning if you killed your past relative you wouldn't cease to exist, just the new timeline's version of you would.

I'm in love with cursed conlang creators conceptualizing entirely new fields of logic to base a language on, it's actually so fascinating

@dominicpancella3012

7 ай бұрын

Their creativity is boundless, and also ridiculous

@silverblank1139

7 ай бұрын

some concepts are simply not possible without language paving the way to them. you will see in eastern or even latino cultures things that are difficult to express in english.

@-minushyphen1two379

2 ай бұрын

@@silverblank1139Like what? I can only think of 孝 in Chinese - where one character represents a fundamental concept that English speakers don't always use, which is "filial piety".

I love how Russel's paradox shows up in the 7th tense-- anyone who knows how to actually use it is by definition in an unreachable timeline, where the concept being referred to is known but then is it actually in the 7th tense? Quite suitable for a timetravelling language!

@theapexsurvivor9538

7 ай бұрын

Alternatively they're in a reachable timeline but the time between them learning how to use it and forgetting is shorter than the minimum time required to teach the usage of it. Which is quite likely given that it refers to anti-memes and thus understanding how to use it removes the understanding of how to use it.

@robonator2945

7 ай бұрын

techincally you could know *_how_* to use it, you'd just never be able to actually think of an example of such a case outside of extremely distant concepts. "Well you uh, you'd, basically when you can't think of a thing, it's probably 7th tense, but it also might just be something you don't understand, or something that's above your understanding, but isn't technically impossible to understand... just, you'll know to use it when you need to use it" It's sort of like how people can describe eldritch gods as being undescribable; the description can never be useful in describing the thing itself, but it can be useful in defining what the thing isn't, i.e. describable.

Scp-055 is a good example of a 7th person being, whenever you think about it, you forget it ever existed, a perfect example of an antimeme

@Frommerman

8 ай бұрын

055 isn't the perfect antimeme. After all, it's possible to remember things it is not, possible to know it has a location even if you need prompting to remember it exists, and records of its containment protocol are not self-censoring. A true antimeme would be utterly uncontainable, as even negative information concerning it would be impossible to contain either in a human mind or in any hard format.

@randomperson1955

8 ай бұрын

@@Frommerman A better example is SCP-3125 Aka "The Escapee". The INSTANT you realize it exists(don't even need to figure out how it works, just need to see the hole in the concept space it's creating, even just with horrible plots) it erases you, your work, your relatives, your friends and anyone who thinks like you. It erases things so cleanly that you can't even observe the holes normally, or with memory recovering drugs. You need to use special equipment, which then makes you see the hole, which activates it's ability, killing you. The only way the antimemetics division was able to study it was by having an information sealed room which had a memory wiping mechanism that triggers when leaving.

@thevalarauka101

4 ай бұрын

what are you talking about? there's no SCP-055

@jan_Majeken

4 ай бұрын

@@thevalarauka101 yeah i have no idea what i meant, that one was skipped because, uh, what was i talking about?

@jideongab-le6760

14 күн бұрын

You were talking about Scp-055, an anti-... uhh... um...

as a potential future coauthor of the (in some probable futures) bestselling book "Navigating Multidimensional Time: An Introduction to Time Travel in a Non-Deterministic Branching Multiverse and Related Transtemporal Concepts", I approve of this conlang.

@wolfetteplays8894

8 ай бұрын

I wish you luck! I’m writing and working on World building for a few projects of my own, and it ain’t entirely easy

@Decopunk1927

8 ай бұрын

I am the other co-author

@Tynach

8 ай бұрын

Sorry, but the multiverse doesn't actually branch. All the 'branches' are just positions along a probability axis, and all positions already exist and have always existed. It's still non-deterministic though, even moreso now that you can destructively make permanent changes. Good luck figuring that mess out ;)

@Decopunk1927

8 ай бұрын

Here's how the time machines in my time travel story operate. I propose, to correspond to the three spatial dimensions {x,y,z} are three temporal dimensions {t,u,v} where timelines can branch in and you can view them as physical structures. As three-dimensional creatures we can only experience three axes at once, so under my rules a time machine shifts the frame of reference to drive to its destination on the timelines instead of space. This is why time machines arrive in the same location they left. (Since location has to be relative to something, it would be most useful to set it relative to Earth's surface.) For my storytelling purposes, there's a seventh axis {w} for what I call "meta-time" which is how one can experience time passing while operating a time machine. The universe is constantly expanding, which means time is constantly expanding, so the future doesn't exist until it happens, and thus you'd be able to watch timelines lengthen at one second per meta-second. If timelines happen to be perfectly misaligned they could collide, which might be bad. Now this is kind of arbitrary, but a significance of Back to the Future's 88 miles per hour is that a timeline could be 88 hours per mile of length, but that's kind of arbitrary. So to conclude, in my time travel story You Shall Erase This Day From The Memory Of Time a time machine can go back (but it takes a road trip) and the only way forward is waiting patiently for the future to exist, and all actions in the past result in a branched timeline, which means historians can use it to alter events in different ways to determine their significance. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

@Tynach

8 ай бұрын

@@Decopunk1927 While I wouldn't use your system myself, I appreciate several aspects of it, and would love to see or read something that uses this set of mechanics. In particular, I GREATLY appreciate your inclusion of meta-time and the future not having been written yet, because I had recently read a very neat and well-written article by a very smart person who advocated for thinking of physics as 'timeless', simply because the Universe does not perfectly ever return to a previous state, so 'current state of the Universe' could be used instead of time to tell the time. Which made me really frustrated, because physics - especially down to quantum mechanics, which this very smart person used to help formulate this 'timeless physics' more exactly - is NOT deterministic, and you can only use 'current state of the whole system' as a replacement for 'current time within the system' if you DO have deterministic physics. And especially since it was recently proven that the Spectral Gap problem in quantum mechanics is mathematically undecidable, that - to me - sounds like 'timeless physics' is completely disproven. It seriously bothered me that this very very smart person would overlook such a huge problem with their idea.. So it's actually very cool that YOUR idea DOESN'T overlook it, instead incorporating it.

There's someone amazing about there being a regular feature of a language that is existentially horrifying.

I love languages that are easy to pronounce and somehwat logical if used on easy examples, but grow exponentially in complexity once you try to understand any more of its core concept. It's like reading a forbidden tome which at first appears to make sense but then melts your brain.

@robonator2945

7 ай бұрын

the author of which demands you use their 7th person preferred pronouns

Truly, one of the languages of all time

@rkemihmu

7 ай бұрын

Holy shit, you actually made that meme make sense

I mean this isn’t really cursed just very well worldbuilt

@DrWhom

8 ай бұрын

it is cute how you youngsters have found a new use for the adjective _cursed_ but don't forget we already had _confounded_

@Douli218

7 ай бұрын

@@ippos_khloros6163 y’all are *wilding*

@Duiker36

7 ай бұрын

@@DrWhom Well, the problem with calling them "confounded conlangs" is that confounded describes the conlang. Who's doing the confounding, and why did the language feel confounded? You could say "confounding conlangs", though? If you say "cursed conlangs", though, everyone understands: we cursed the conlang, because it was worthy of being cursed at. Perhaps you wanted to say "accursed conlang"?

@DrWhom

6 ай бұрын

are you confusing confounding and confusing?@@Duiker36

Your language uses four time dimensions. You actually made a language that talks about the four-dimensional time cube.

@tomkerruish2982

7 ай бұрын

Wow, I'd forgotten about that.

I actually really like this concept. Please expand everything so that it could serve as a functional language, I'm sure it would be good in a sci-fi story.

@evah3136

8 ай бұрын

That's where I'm at! Is it terrible that I would love to write a journal-entry style time-travel story that's complicated enough to need this grammar? That would be such a fun project.

@Generalofthest

8 ай бұрын

@evah3136 Absolutely not. Despite its complex nature, everything in Mpiua Tiostouea exists for good reason, so it would fit perfectly into such a story.

This is horrible, i love it

Good video, this is what first got me into the language! Some notes I made during this watching: - It should be noted that some time-travelers refuse to use Ioa, which might confuse people new to the language - Would be nice with an example of an -insteosui - You may see some written texts starting with "nnn" to prevent confusion when communicating with mirrored or rotated entities

@kamikeserpentail3778

7 ай бұрын

Well why use a spoken language when you can travel to the future to be modified to communicate more efficiently

@LucaTeemant

3 ай бұрын

Where did you learn to speak it? Was it just from the video, studying the document, or something else? I am very interested in it and I want to learn it.

@ITR

3 ай бұрын

@@LucaTeemant I just searched it up in The Great Library.

@LucaTeemant

3 ай бұрын

@@ITR What’s that?

@ITR

3 ай бұрын

@@LucaTeemant Ask whoever provided you with your time travel device, they should be able to provide you directions

this is really clever, I'd hesitate to call it cursed except for the fact that time travel itself is cursed so anything trying to explain or quantify it is cursed by association. otherwise, it's just really cool. except for the tetrapthongs, those are definitely cursed.

@kamikeserpentail3778

7 ай бұрын

Time travel is easy, they always exaggerate.

Now i can FINALLY talk about Doctor Who like a Timelord would! Edit: I commented before the Doctor/River example. I guess i was accidentally correct...

@andremeIIo

8 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as a coincidence. You just had a thought from your future self! Congrats, now you're thinking with time travel.

@DrWhom

8 ай бұрын

au contraire, the _only_ thing that there is, is a coincidence@@andremeIIo

imagine a time travel puzzle game where several almost all of the characters exclusively speak this language.

I know what you meant in the title but “the language of all time” has the same vibe as “the most language I’ve ever seen”

Dear lord that’s so many verb forms. But I need to know the kinship terms. How do we differentiate relatives across timelines?

I would like to point out that there are actually five temporal dimensions (or possibly six, maybe) because _Ioa_ (Objective Time) is relative to the universe(s) at large and doesn’t account for time dilation which happens locally. Given the rule that there are no absolutes, and anything possible can/will/has occurred, eventually a time traveler will encounter a situation where they are within a single universe and timeline, but experiencing time slower than the speed it is actually flowing relative to everything else all at once. Time dilation is a phenomenon where if there is anything supermassive nearby, the gravitational pull literally distorts spacetime. Anyone near one of these events experiences time at a much slower rate. This can also happen when traveling at superspeeds (approaching the speed of light), because you yourself become smaller, size-wise, and heavier, mass-wise, until the gravitational force you exert on the universe slows you down. Technically, this happens with any gravitational body (anything with mass) and increases the faster (relative to multiple points throughout the rest of the universe or the universe at large) it moves. The International Space Station has to set their clocks to be fractionally faster than the ones on earth. Time dilation can theoretically be used to hold you in stasis while the world moves around you, effectively acting as a gateway to the future. Since all motion and mass contribute to this, time travelers will need an additional relative universal time since this enables them to travel forward on a timeline without branching. The true objective time can still be measured relative to the entire universe at large, because of fancy handwavey stuff with relative motion that I don’t really understand well enough to explain, but this also introduces a larger question: If each person can take a perfectly accurate timepiece with them and experience different dilations, that means that relative to them, time flows at a consistent rate. Each person has their own time that is both objective and relative; relative to the flow of time around you, you’re _not_ time traveling, yet it still counts as time travel. This can be corrected against with the universal objective time, but that means that objectively, time flows at different rates for each person. Again, not a problem since the universal time can correct for it. But the question bothering me is, what guarantees that time flows at the same rates between multiverses? How would one even calibrate against that? Because a perfectly accurate clock continues at the same relative rate, time travelers would have no way of knowing if they’re experiencing dimensional time dilation while they are in that universe? To them the clock always tics once per second. Sorry to blast you with nitpicks that might require you to reconstruct your entire language to fix, but I just wanted to put my thoughts out there. It is a super interesting and well thought-out conlang otherwise though!

@robonator2945

7 ай бұрын

in other words, it's accounting for time of higher powers, without account for time at lower powers. It's accounting for errors in higher order time, (i.e. time splits that run parallel) but not lower order time where the time within the universe itself splits into localized "segments". (well technically it would probably be a gradient. Then again, probabalistically in a multiverse everything would be more accurately represented by a gradient, so there is probably some naturally segmenting force that creates some meaningful seperation, I'm guessing thats why 7th person exists) With that said, this isn't necessarily an issue with a time traveling language, since such subjective distortion is not necessarily an aspect of time itself. Distortion references drift between two reltaive timeframes that should be identical, but not a change in time itself. If we assume the objective linear time can be contextually (1984 comes after 1884, but jesus was born 50 years earlier in this timeline so when I say 1984 it's assumed by context you know I'm referring to this universe where that's 50 years earlier than the "normal" 1984) then the difference between subjective and objective time would account for this locally. When dealing with higher order temporal phenomena this might get more complicated, but hypothetically you could consider a distortion of your timeline's objective time in the same way relative to other branches assuming such a distortion is possible. Distortion is only ever going to be a relative comparison, so in theory if you just go-up a power and compare to that it would still work. (i.e. : "for me, time was distorted in my universe by 50 years" is a comparison between your subjective time and objective time) Another possible argument is that such an event itself constitutes a space-local temporal-branch, so an individual who experiences temportal distortion are, themselves, time travelling just within a constant spatial locality. (i.e. : they're never leaving the universe, but they're still time traveling within it) In that sense there isn't any issue at all because it would *_literally_* just be your subjective Uea vs the objective Loa. The issue then of course is that you still run into the gradient issue as described earlier.

@lukeang5615

9 күн бұрын

Hmm, maybe the total entropy of the universe could be a way of tracking "universal time"?

let's hope the different multiversal branches also came up with this same system, or else we'd have an uncountable amount of different time travelling languages

I wonder if this would be an efficient language to use for 5d chess with multiverse time travel

@iamsushi1056

8 ай бұрын

I imagine you would need to add some emphasis to subjects and delineation between them, but yeah

@silverblank1139

7 ай бұрын

it seems very low information dense. compare spanish or vietnamese vs english. you need to speak fast to be efficient, otherwise slang all the way

This is some very high effort cursedlanging. Even some of the most well known clongs often don't have lost/reconstructed forms lmao

Very nice. I am tempted to suggest that special evidence markers would be helpful, especially when talking about the future. EG, I can assert this because I've been there in this timeline; I can assert this because it is usual for timelines; I assert this based on conjecture from known facts. But I suppose this is already covered by tense, given the dimensions of time you identified. EG, if I assert something with a low-negentropy tense, I am asserting that it is what normally happens (so we might expect it in a given timeline, absent reason to the contrary). If I assert something with a past-to-me tense, it means I've seen it with my own eyes, or something close to that.

@theapexsurvivor9538

7 ай бұрын

You'd probably use "this [happened] (after this happened)" with [*] being past-to-me tense and (*) being local-future tense. You can also go with "this will have happened when I will have been in this date at this relative probability coordinate" if you want to be more precise. You could also go with "assuming the difference between this timeline and that one is sufficiently similar as to have not altered these major events, which is reasonable given it's less different than that timeline, and that other one which also has these major events, we can currently conclude that based on the experiences I had x years ago which I will have in x years from now in that timeline which are consistent with these events in that other timeline according to what the person I will have had had yet to talk to and later talked to earlier in this timeline, meaning that these events will happen in this timeline at these dates unless we take a hand in unmaking them at this date, which seems likely as we have no records of this having had happened in this timeline", which I'm only 99% sure I screwed up the order of operations on once.

@theapexsurvivor9538

7 ай бұрын

Also, yes, I did give up on marking tense the instant I started using more than 2. Sue me.

you missed a line. “Because these are universal, it’s safe to assume they’re also multiversal”

the way you wove a horror story through your conlang was perfect

The reading at the end sounds like characters from Hello Neighbor X ) As complex as this conlang is, it's honestly really cool to imagine how would people communicate if time travel was common.

@user-vm1hi7bo5s

8 ай бұрын

Охеей, ямие родогие! Бордо жалаповать на мой накал, Личисец! Гесодня расттует оредечная зеблоблачная, дуся по гропзонам, денеля в шанем гродоке.

I've thought about the idea of a conlang for time travelers before, but I see now I didn't consider nearly enough variables (good job taking the concept and running it to its cursed conclusion)

7 grammatical persons is so bonkers, especially having one of them that nobody has ever even heard of being used haha

I always hate it when I lose my quantum homing device.

The Fermat joke a couple of minutes in nearly took me out. Amazing work 😂😂💀💀

This is amazingly creative! I love the concept, and I love the subtle horror with stuff like the 7th person that suggests something nasty lurks under the surface.

This is definitely one of the most languages of all time

13:45 I think there's a glitch in the video. The middle of the chart just disappeared here and became solid white for a bit

@ScienceMeetsFiction

8 ай бұрын

Weird. I was sure I put something in there. 😉

I'm surprised prime number multiplication was not implemented to map on to some ungodly complex chart of some sort that can only be deciphered by prime number factorialization.

I took latin for 5 years, I think I would cry if i had to learn mpiua tiostouea

You could make a whole science fiction story or film in this clong

This is unironically a cool Conlang.

Okay so a couple things I've been thinking about with this: 1: an Oeitei of 0 shouldn't be the average across all timelines. That would be impossible to comprehend and isn't a feasible thing you can't just average different variations of reality. Your example highlights a far better definition: it is the deviation from the speaker's timeline of events, or alternatively the speaker's definition of normalcy. This would actually be really useful for 2 travelers meeting, as they could quickly find out how unusual their current timeline is in comparison to each of their own home timelines. 2: the 7th person is honestly way less cursed than it seems (okay, the fact that some words have been deleted from collective memory probably from some antimemetic being is still very cursed) and I'm not sure why there would be no known examples of use. It could simply be some concept that has never been thought of in the speaker's timeline, yet is perfectly normal elsewhere. Say you traveled to a timeline where starting a billion years ago life on earth evolved in a completely different direction. You would have no feasible way of comprehending what that life would look like before observing it. Its pure concept would be unknown to you. Thus, 7th person would be appropriate in this case.

This is great. Finally one that doesn'te seem like a short shitpost, but something well thought out! This is actually a great concept

Someone should integrate this into a toki pona derivative.

I am watching this as a former nuclear technician and current software engineer. And this is the most emotions I have ever felt about a technical topic. This is insane and so straight forward while adhering to the rules of the construction of language so eloquently.

"impossibility is expressed with an adverb denotating failure"

mfer i swear if a time traveler meats another in America of our time and gets told to speak English, they will not visit us again

@livedandletdie

8 ай бұрын

It's a lot of fun, to meet Americans, steal their wallets, and move back in time, to place their wallets on their bedside table. If you've ever been sure you've grabbed your keys or wallet only to find them missing, I can almost guarantee a time traveler.

@OrangeC7

8 ай бұрын

​@@livedandletdieTime traveling honest pickpockets is something I'm going to look out for, now, thank you

Imagine a linguist in this world, concerned that the language is too complex, and conducting a wide survey across speakers of fluency in different aspects of the language. Some communities more prominently participating in time travel might more quickly and accurately use unusual tenses, since they frequently need them to describe their lives or the lives of their friends and family. Other communities may have less access to time travel, and may struggle to describe tenses and relationships they rarely experience. Imagine that one of the few nearly universal results found by the survey is an unexpectedly high fluency across virtually all demographics in speech using the 7th person, scoring higher than many of the most common forms of speech. This result surely indicates a vast mismanagement of educational resources across a diverse array of timelines to make students so intimately familiar with academic details that they'll certainly never need to use in the real world.

Couldn't 7th person stuff survive if the speakers told fictional stories that include them? Like campfire scary stories? Maybe this is going over my head.

@gcewing

8 ай бұрын

The 7th person beings don't want us discussing them, not even fictionally... what was I talking about just then?

God I can’t imagine how relative long this would take to learn in one continuous time line

I typically reconstruct the Ergative Singular 7th-II-V slightly differently. You have *iosteui for it at 16:02, but my colleagues and I prefer to instead use

Woo! I love your channel To see you join us in the cursed conlang contest is absolutely lovely :))

Watched a few submissions and this is my favorite by far, good job

Lost it at "if it's in this timeline, it's usually 4th person parasingular"

I love how much worldbuilding you were able to squeeze into a conlanging video. This better win.

you did a really good job, this takes a lot of work.

jfc, what kinda astral horror kinda fearlang is this... you outdid yourself with this one sir I'm gonna be drooling over this for WEEKS

Finally, a ccc entry that wasnt recorded on a phonogram

Oooh sweet mercy the sweetspot of my special interests has arrived. Love this one so much.

so this is how 5d conlang with multivowel time travel was born. nice to see its origin

Honestly the orthography would be cursed even without the language and the tripthongs and whatnot... imagine trying to read that with dyslexia.

@CoPoint

8 ай бұрын

Scary thought... I severely hope they have somehow made the genetic cause for dyslexia impossible in their genome - otherwise, any dyslexic in that culture may as well be classified as 'functionally non-verbal', because, with _that_ language structure, probably barely anything they say, based on their understanding, would make any sense whatsoever to anyone else 😬...

I HAD THIS SAME IDEA A YEAR AGOOO THIS IS SO COOL BEING REALIZEEEED

I love this! The 7th person got me.

This is unironically a cool conlang

I love this!! I remember similar ideas of really funky grammar for different strange time situations in two books I read when I was a kid. The Time Machine by HG Wells and Hitchhikers Guide to the galaxy by Douglas someone (can't remember his name)

I love the idea of a temporal tower of Babel due to slang terms existing in only certain timelines

Actually a really cool concept for science fiction

I'm pretty sure this uses the exact type of time travel dragon ball z uses

What grammatical numbering do you use in a situation where a paraplural collection has converged in a single timeline?

8:27 Would statistical Normal be one where there are no time travel changes ?

this truly is one of the languages of all time

I absolutely love this

this is actually really cool

Can someone make a video trying to teach this? Also, I checked the word list and it wasn't very informative. There weren't many words. It was just the bee movie example in the video. Is there another word list that I missed or has he not posted it?

8:28 It is said that the executioner was the first man to live a truly private life. Forced by societal shame to live on the outskirts of town, doing a necessary but grim task no one else wished to do. The same will be true of the Time Travel Ethics Committee, Hitler Timeline Protection Squad. Why yes, I have read Wikihistory.

I know saying this has basically no relevance I just like showing off the conlang I made about 2 and a half years ago. So, here's the first part of the bee movie script translated into it. Nakrodoniain eeba nalla fo neiwa hovollanall fean aviatacou, nean heibei ton shueldo ebia fo nonnbllei utafallee. Neaneema thoba nanggamv sa chuchuma sallma ein nea sa heinennv chuchuma hatoman. Tubei, kazan nea nedu, tell heibei sa kotinuwee utafallee ebkonnsou heibeinall ton akreeya honntour humnanall kinthou sa fo eponnsabellann. And here's my shitty direct translation of it. (I know very little about linguistic structure so this might not give as much detail as you may want) In accordance by all (past participle marker)->know law-all of aviation, a bee not should be (ppm)->able to-fly. Its

What’s interesting, is I can see a natural learning path in which you stagger the language. As a child you only use the timeline tense, and as you grow or get a timeline job you go to school to learn the REST of the language 😂

8:15 You don't need this "statistical normal," since you have a privileged reference time line: the one where no time travel occurs.

Love the language, but even moreso the world building! When is the book coming out set in a universe where time travelers have this type of culture?

14:29 sorry, what's with the vowel harmony? could you expand on that?

Mpiua Tiostouea is one of the languages of all time.

Why isn't there a PSing. form for most persons? How do I say 'me in another timeline'? Or 'me from another timeline'?

this is the first cursed conlang i've seen that actually sounds like it might be a *learnable, pronouncable, understandable* language and that scares me.

I like to think that the time travel patterns from 1:45 are actually a well-estabilished schemes and more complicated / cursed ones don't even have a name (p.s. I simply love the aesthetics of this language)

Possibly one use case of the 7th person subject would be the Tao (道). The first line of the Tao Te Ching describes it like this: "the Tao that can be known is not the Tao"

this is barely cursed, it's really just. Cool

2:52 Is that a goddamn Fermat reference?

The meta note at 2:52 instantly earned you a sub

This is brilliant, and maybe the nerdiest thing I’ve stumbled onto in KZread.

The phrase "does not exist in our memespace" is absurdly cursed in and of itself.

It'd be cool to see an uncursed version of this, e.g. antimemetics get uninvolved due to being completely forgotten/don't extend into the basic concept of antimemetics and thus don't extend into deleting pronouns, phonology isn't affected by old gods, etc. Maybe also if it were changed to different forms of time travel like where the time travel effect always happens and thus results in the time travel happening later on or even more chaotic variations where it's just confusing and sometimes time travel will make alternate timelines but sometimes that deletes the original timeline and sends 2 guys to 2022 to make sure a warlord doesn't die because we end up in a utopia if ww3 happens.

This is awesome.

if you like this video, read the book "this is how you lose the time war"!! its got time travel stuff as well and this video reminded me of it

i like how 7th person's "no known examples of use, but experts insist we need it" implies that it is definitely being used but due to antimemetic shenanigans its use cannot be perceived or recalled

This is one of the most spurious videos I've ever seen here on KZread clearly on the level of the flat-earthers. Time travel is simply not possible, since time and space are different manifestations of the very same immutable phenomenon which we perceive as the expansion of the universe. To travel back in time then would require the contraction of all space/time everywhere which is just not possible.

@devonhardy6447

2 ай бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiction

Powerpoint supports ligatures, but you need to go into advanced font settings and turn them on.

@ScienceMeetsFiction

8 ай бұрын

You can do that in Word, but Powerpoint doesn't have the advanced settings--at least not my 2016 version. (Although weirdly, they work in Excel even though it's not supposed to support them either.)

5d-chess is a game, where any time travel to the past creates a new timeline, BUT ALSO any token can move between parallel PRESENT timelines (with chess-toke-constrains for this), without creating a new timeline, and when you move in a past-timeline, the "present-moment" may move back in time.

Do you think maybe 7th person could be used for irony? Like “honest politician-nst-” or “our friendship-nst-” where the speaker is aware the subject definitely does exist in some timeline but wants to imply it can't

would have loved to see a sentence from the world building translated and explained, where all these time-travel grammatical feats are employed. the word salad it must be in english would be delightful to witness :p

So grammatical person are 1st (me) 2nd (you) 3rd (the guy near us) 4th (the guy not near us who's somewhere in our universe) 5th (the guy that was never born who's somewhere in our multiverse) 6th (the guy that's just a cartoon character who's somewhere in the omniverse) 7th (the omni-non-existent entity who's nowhere in the omniverse)

@CoPoint

8 ай бұрын

I don't know, but that 7th person sounded quite SCP to me, somehow 🤷‍♂...

@DrWhom

8 ай бұрын

he wasn't there again to-day

@iantaakalla8180

8 ай бұрын

Now I would like for there to be an SCP who actually exists, but can never interact with anyone because that person is a day after literally everyone else, so that person can never leave clues that he existed (as opposed to just a second ahead where a prolonged touch or some direct contact may signal that a person just a second ahead of everyone else exists).