These tests are not scientific at all. This video was made strictly for fun. Both of these are great and very fun to shoot. Thank you for watching!

@joaopedrobaggio4475

Жыл бұрын

I love your channel, never miss a vídeo, keep doing this amazing work.

@GunsOfTheWorld

Жыл бұрын

@@joaopedrobaggio4475 I appreciate the kind words brother!

@geraltriv147

Жыл бұрын

More of this test please!! So nice!! Thanks!!

@poudrenoirearmesmodernes4758

Жыл бұрын

Thanks merci 😍🇨🇵🇨🇵

@FrankSlw

Жыл бұрын

Tu canal es increíble nunca me pierdo tus videos sigue asi nunca pares, saludos desde mexico 🇲🇽 :)

Both are great but I'd take the PPSH-41. More powerful caliber, more robust and super simple. Also a more comfortable stock. Fun fact: Germany actually attempted to copy the PPSH because troops liked it so much

@balsa0108

Жыл бұрын

For penetration is PPSH-41, but 9mm have HP, JHP(ammo that makes bigger wound than FMJ without kevlar or any other body armor). I think that MP-40 is compact, FA controlable and lighter. PPSH-41 have high rate of fire and it is chambered in 7,62×25(good for penetration), i think it is more accurate that MP-40(becouse of wobly overlapping stock on MP-40).

@yenle7296

Жыл бұрын

ppsh is heavier, some has low quality reputation but the ammo and fire rate packs a punch. Even the drum mag is heavy, ppsh is heavy in general. Mp40 lighter, more accurate but less damage less weight. If I have low ammo and enemy are far away, i use mp40, if u wanna sweep the floor, use ppsh. For me I want ppsh41 with 71 drum mag becuz I'm not sweeping or sniping, I'm having fun but ill also be happy to get mp40 and see how it goes

@kiennguyenanh8498

Жыл бұрын

What was the name of the copy version

@nuraly78

Жыл бұрын

@@yenle7296 PPSh-41 is more accrute than MP40 due to longer barrel, higher muzzle speed and small compensator. Morevoer, 7,62×25 round is more powerful than 9×19 on most distances, as its higher velocity overshadows less mass of the bullet. I have TT and CZ-75. TT's stopping power is noticably higher.

@yenle7296

Жыл бұрын

@@nuraly78 oh ok thats new but the barrel part make sense. Yeh good but in general if i wanna rock i get ppsh of i wanna chill imma have mp40

Its funny how people are choosing their gun based on stoping power & fire rate, as if any of these two guns wouldn’t send you 6 feet under before you can blink once. One well placed bullet is all it takes. Remember kids; real life isn’t call of duty.

@thomasholohan4090

Жыл бұрын

True

@NowCheckYourSound

Жыл бұрын

Golden words

@Dinguskhan5003

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but one does it faster lol

@johnsheetz6639

Жыл бұрын

those if I see you first that's your ass. Weapons.

@jonh101

Жыл бұрын

@@Dinguskhan5003 quickest hands in the west

That smile at 1:45 says it all

@user-qo3yy9nv1u

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Such a beautiful gun

@TheLisek926

Ай бұрын

In Poland we say 'Nic tak nie cieszy, jak seria z pepeszy' ( Nothing is more enjoyable than burst fire with ppsh )

Wow these guns are much larger than I thought they are. Video games make them seem so small.

@jamesdragonforce

Жыл бұрын

Video games aren’t reality friend.

@pastelfromgreece9603

Жыл бұрын

Especially the mp-40

@The-Blue-Knight

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesdragonforce yeah no shit

@Livelaughandlaughmore

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesdragonforce no mames wey

@jamesdragonforce

Жыл бұрын

@@Livelaughandlaughmore ?

82 years passed and these are as lethal as before.

I’ve fired both and while the MP-40 is one of the smoothest firing guns I’ve shot, it doesn’t have the punch or the rate of fore that the ppsh-41 has. German soldiers used them frequently because of their reliability and rate of fire. They were even rechambered to fire 9mm by the Germans.

@haroldgodwinson832

Жыл бұрын

Rate of fire is a two-edged sword. Yes, handy in certain situations BUT, not only does it typically result in reduced accuracy, it also increases ammo consumption.

@webleypug

Жыл бұрын

Sam Peckinpah's "Cross of Iron" shows German soldier Steiner (James Coburn) ditching his MP in favour of a PPSH.

@thomass1891

Жыл бұрын

@@haroldgodwinson832 did you just point out to us that a faster rate of fire increases ammo consumption?

@haroldgodwinson832

Жыл бұрын

@@thomass1891 No. I'm trying to point out that high cyclic rate is cool bananas until you're standing there with your dick hanging out, and no frinkin' ammo.

@argi0774

Жыл бұрын

@@haroldgodwinson832 Accuracy doesn't matter in the scenarios these weapons were built for. They were not made for precise single shots over long distances. They were made to quickly cover an area in close combat.

No matter how many times I see an MP40 fire, it always surprises me how manageable it is. I would rather have the PPSH, it's ammo is truly fascinating to me. I own a TTC pistol and it's the most accurate handgun I own. 7.62x25 is capable of approaching 5.56mm carbine terminal effectiveness when fired out of a barrel of at least 16".

@TheGreenViewer456

Жыл бұрын

@@FirstLast-gv1zlok

@honorshot5448

Жыл бұрын

Not a lot of people talk about how the MP38 was originally a vehicle crew weapon, it's kinda lame for a reason, it shoots slower; saves ammo, has a folding stock with no cheekweld; compact, this is a great gun for vehicle crews, but Germany definitely could've used a better submachine gun for their infantry. Something for example like the MP28 or MP34 which both could use a bayonet, had fixed stocks and had a faster rpm than the MP40.

@Daniel-du7pv

3 ай бұрын

bro, "close to 5.56 terminal effectiveness" ? you must be kidding

That soda never hurt anyone. You monsters!

@DynamicDuo795

4 ай бұрын

Except maybe give diabetes to millions around the world. Hickok45 took care of that problem in one of his videos.

@billylee7398

12 күн бұрын

I could of drank that. Me thristy and want flavor carbonated drank

I am German and I am a Patriot. But I heard that German Eastfront Veterans prefered the PPSH-41. Its still a great and reliable weapon tho and when it comes to MGs and Tanks I would always choose the german ones but in this particularly case I tend to the Russian Sub Machine Gun, at least in Close Combat.

@GermanSharp1

Жыл бұрын

Ppsh41 was the second most used smg on eastern front by germany. Even converting some to 9mm ppsh41(r).

@GermanPredatorHawk

Жыл бұрын

@@GermanSharp1 I knew they were used a lot but the convertion to 9mm was new to me. Thanks for this information.

@inteuz

Жыл бұрын

@@GermanSharp1 Actually it was called the MP 717(r)

@GermanSharp1

Жыл бұрын

@@GermanPredatorHawk they also converted some to 7.62x25 the ammo used in c96 mauser pistol

@GermanSharp1

Жыл бұрын

@@inteuz my source says 9mm conversion was ppsh41(r) was

MP40: Check out my fire -rate! PPSH: Pshh.

“C’mon Dimitri, Lead the charge!” URAAA!!!

The movie "Stalingrad" a German movie, a German officer tell his soldiers if they find any ppsh 41 take them because they are better than their mp 40. In this test, despite two guns are being shot by the same shooter, it is not the way to test the accuracy and the penetration power. Guns needs to be fixated on a clamp or something like that. The way he keeps the ppsh is not the same as he keeps the mp. His left hand on mp stands on the magazine, on the ppsh stands very close to the right hand which makes the control harder, So not a true test. My opinion, ppsh wins in every kind of competition vs mp.

Both have advantages and disadvantages. But the production of PPSh took significantly less labor costs, it was cheaper. And the Soviet army has much more of these submachine guns, than Germans have MP-40, 38. The PPSh is not the only submachine gun in the Soviet (Red) Army. There was also a SudAev submachine gun. It is better to write in English PPSh. Sh is the initial sound in the surname of the designer ShpAgin. In the Russian language there is a separate letter "Ш". In English, you have to use two letters "Sh".

I'm definitely taking the MP40 simply because it shoots 9mm Luger which I could find alot easier.

@tls6198

Ай бұрын

Tokarev 7.62x25 is easy as well

German units usually only had the platoon leader carry an MP-40, while his men carried rifles or the light machine gun. Soviet units had far more soldiers armed with PPSH-41s because these could be produced quicker and more efficiently than rifles. The large ammo drums used onthe PPSH-41 weren't very practicable though. Each drum took longer to reload and it was difficult to carry spare drums on you. I believe they also issued PPSH-41s with 30 round magazines later on for that reason. And of course the PPS-43 which followed was produced in even larger numbers and looks more 'svelte' as in a 'Russian MP-40.'

Theres a reason why German troops prefer captured PPSHs over their own MP40s

@mushroom11g55

Жыл бұрын

All soldiers like foreign weapons. Except maybe Japanese weapons, I think they racistly thought they were inferior weapons, the same way we see Chinese weapons today, cheap copycat weapons.

@martin018esp6

Жыл бұрын

Realmente muchas de las veces no intercambiaban sus mp40 por las ppsh si no que lo hacían con el Kar 98

@chocoman45

Жыл бұрын

It's not that they preferred it, it's that they needed every SMG they could get their hands on.

@IvanIvanov-yl4mz

Жыл бұрын

@@martin018esp6 That's right. The PPSh was the main weapon in the SA, while in the Wehrmacht it was the Kar 98. The MP was relatively few in number compared to the PPSh.

@user-tv3qn2ju9e

Жыл бұрын

У него скорострельность выши , с него удобнее стрелять .

My two favourite ww2 smgs and a really good comparison shoot. Unfortunately I have deactivated models only as we are not so lucky in the UK with our constitution as the USA and other countries. Police, armed forces and criminals can have live automatic weapons, not responsible adult enthusiasts. Really good to see how my guns would've fired. Many thanks for this. PS, although a collector of fallschirmjager items, the ppsh41 features on my mannequin as it was a more reliable and hardier combat weapon

@valerianocuomo996

Жыл бұрын

England is only a small isla miserabile, lose all industry, london is not England, true country is fish and chips...italy is the 2⁰industry in Europa, supercar,army navy air Force all is made in italy, italy export, UK import because is a country of shit. Death queen, a old racist suck dick s

@user-qo3yy9nv1u

Жыл бұрын

Thats how gun laws work. They protect criminals.

Ppsh 41 with a 72 round drum magazine.

@Sen-115DK

Жыл бұрын

* 71 rounds *

@rider4440

Жыл бұрын

He didnt use that in the tests becuase the drum mag is shit and would also give the psh numerous advantages

@balsa0108

Жыл бұрын

I think that drum mags are not that bad but they are heavy and it takes time to load it. Also, gun can jam more often then with regular box magazine(35 if I remember). They used drums becouse high rate of fire, so gun will easily eat all ammo!

@SeanDahle

Жыл бұрын

Sadly the drum mags were notorious for malfunction

Great camera angles. Good job men. Keep up the good work.

@GunsOfTheWorld

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man I appreciate it!

I've owned and fired both of these weapons. But my favourite is the PPSH. It would empty out a drum magazine without a single stoppage, but such a high rate of fire you could find yourself out of gas at that critical moment!

@user-tv3qn2ju9e

Жыл бұрын

Мой лежал 70 лет в земле и стреляет без единой осечки

@user-cy1ke4ql4q

Жыл бұрын

@@user-tv3qn2ju9e ты где его откопал? Если и откопал, то законно держать такое оружие? Нужны на него документы?

Both SMG are awesome but ppsh 41 is my favorite

PPSH has an High Fire Rate

the ppsh spews out bullets at a much faster rate - about double the mp40 - which is a slight drawback because in a firefight you could quickly burn through a lot of ammo, but in urban and close quarters combat where a split second can determine life or death it has an edge over the mp40 which is probably why many German soldiers preferred it.

@generalhorse493

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that this is a myth created by Stalingrad. The soviets used the ppsh and its fire rate very well there, and the german troops realized they needed to swap their Mauser rifles with smgs to match the soviets there. But German logistics plus smgs being concentrated in the German officers meant that German troops had to use captured Ppshs to get their needed smgs.

@Wolfspaine7N6

7 ай бұрын

@@generalhorse493True, in the German army the K98’s were issued at a 10+ times rate compared to the mp38/mp40.

A glance of an eye at his face after MP-40 full auto, and after PPSh full auto. Tells everything.

Just like when R Lee Ermy compared the Thompson to the MP40... it really comes down to the shooter. Both have their advantages in different areas. MP40's slower rate of fire makes it more accurate. The PPSH's rate of fire makes it more powerful.

Depends for what purpose.To be short for field combat mp40 and PPSH-41 for city/fight.

Schmeisser versus Shpagin! Let's go!! By the way, I know that Hugo Schmeisser didn't invent the MP-40. It was developed by Heinrich Vollmer and Berthold Geipel. Schmeisser just owned a factory that made them. Even the MP-40 magazines bare his name as he had a patent for the straight magazine design.

Awesome video. Not trying to be a armchair quarterback or anything but I did notice you flinch right before each trigger pull. Maybe you are not used to these beautiful antiques but this is extremely common and even seasoned shooters don't realize they do it. Interesting that your flinch tends to send your rounds only up based on the pattern and spread of the two guns. You can probably just compensate for it but a better way would be to train yourself to correct it. One way to do that is to load a magazine with a random amount of live and dummy rounds and when firing it take your time with each trigger pull. Focus on your movement and take it as slow as you possibly can. You'll notice the flinch when you pull the trigger on a dummy round. The idea is to stop that and to keep pulling the trigger slowly until you no longer do it on a dummy or live round.

That bottle shoot demonstrates kinetic energy pretty well. Good shooting.

They don’t speak a word off camera either. Their thoughts and emotions are conveyed through their eyes

2 Legends...like the STG44 and the AK47

@tls6198

Ай бұрын

I saw STG44 review on Brandon's channel.. IMO i wouldn't trust my life to this reliability

I really loved both but PPSh-41 is mostly my favorite

Папаша тоже держится за магазин, как и МР-40. Если что, Папаша-это ППШ.

Yeah I would say maybe PPSH

Old guns, buts never gets old.

Very nice ...from what I've heard and what you showed . ..PPSH 41 is what I would choose. I'm curious if it has dirt jamming issues like the Mp40 . Thanks for the video

@danielpoenaru1361

Жыл бұрын

It has even for water or freezing.

PPSH any day and twice on Sunday!

1:44 you can see him smiling after the firing :)

Ironically, both sides were supposedly envious of each others' smgs.

@mushroom11g55

Жыл бұрын

Soldiers tend to envy foreign weapons

@ashleyoasis7948

Жыл бұрын

And I thought the first gun rivalry was Vietnam with the AK vs M16

@ZA-VII

Жыл бұрын

Talks about the curiosity to use another weapon, also it's war they got what they found to fight.

This was really fn cool. Thanks for the vid

You channel it's amazing bro !

For me, the PPSH41 because it’s basically the FN Minimi of SMGs. A small caliber cartridge combined with a very high RPM and with the cool drum magazines of course.

@balsa0108

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but drum mags are heavy, and I think every soldier holds 1-2 drumags(or one drum mag in gun and 2 box magazines with capacity of 35 i think)

@noncombatant6945

Жыл бұрын

@@balsa0108 солдату полагался 1 барабанный магазин в самом ППШ и 1 запасной в специальной сумке

@57protazan39

Жыл бұрын

Structurally different weapons.

holy shit these look like they're fresh out of the factory

У меня прадед с такой пушкой до Кёнигсберга дошёл, эх отличный аппарат Эхо войны всё же, Мечтаю так же вдоволь и от души пострелять из культового немецкого пистолета пулемёта мп 38-40, такая вещь в хозяйстве пригодиться спасибо за интересное видио

@Dreamisover

Жыл бұрын

а теперь сам до киева грунтовыми водами дойдёшь?

@woland6667

Жыл бұрын

@@Dreamisover намёк типо под землей лежать и матушка природа тебя сама до Киева до толкает? Просто не особо понял вообще обращение в мой адрес

@prostovolk7427

Жыл бұрын

@@Dreamisover В армию ступай ВСУ тебя не хватает..........................

@hornypony2862

Жыл бұрын

пригодиться ещье какь

@loko450

Жыл бұрын

Паш больше ценился, что лепишь, немцы брали его на поле боя, а дед твой mp подобрал?)))

PPSH 41 VERY NİCE!

После отстрела надо отсоединять магазин,и только потом передёрнуть затвор,произвести контрольный спуск-и поставить потом на предохранитель.А вы всё заглядываете через выбрасыватель,а если темно на улице-так же будете делать.

@eugengorbacev2021

7 ай бұрын

Принцип открытого затвора позволяет проверять наличие патрона в патроннике без снятия магазина.. ( в этом и были плюсы и соответственно минусы системы Шпагина)

Mp40💪😈🇩🇪

@specialworld5080

Жыл бұрын

Ppsh-41💪🏻😎🇷🇺⭐💀

What's with the cuts during some of the PPSh shooting footage? Was it Jamming or something?

My Opa was in the 8th Panzer Division 43rd Abt Panzerjager. In the 70s I had a book on military small arms. I showed Opa the MP40 and asked him if he carried it. He said no and took the book and flipped through the pages and showed me a Ppsh and pointed at it. Here that’s it. I asked why he carried that one he said. “Because it worked” Then 5 years ago I bought a book about the 8th Panzer Division and in the book was a mannequin dressed in a Panzerjager uniform carrying a Ppsh… I found that interesting

Stalin's Brrrrt machine vs Facist Ratatta

I love both of these guns, but I would personally want a mp40 over the PP

PPSH 41 is winner.

I'd rather have a Thompson than either of these.

I’ve shot both. Three malfunctions with the PPSh 41 none with the MP-40. MP-40 extremely controllable the PPSh 41 not bad but not as good. I’ll take the MP-40.

@DmitryiYo

Жыл бұрын

Наверное, твой ППШ был с большим износом деталей.

@user-tv3qn2ju9e

Жыл бұрын

@@DmitryiYo да он и копаный отлично стреляет

The German in me says MP-40! But my Soviet heart says PPSH-41! I'd love either!

MP40. Lighter and more compact, especially with the folding stock. As a soldier you’d spend waaaaaaaaay more time lugging the damn things around than shooting them so as long as the weapon is reliable and able to get the job done I’d go with weight and ergonomics every day of the week. Plus you’d need a second man with a wheelbarrow to carry all the ammunition for the PPSH. 😛

@hellotheremyolfriend

Жыл бұрын

best response here imo. biggest factor is humping around as a soldier.

I love mp40s

@hangar18megadethfan42

Жыл бұрын

@Erik Veron based profile picture!

Excellent video!!

That PP is a Fucking Monster 👹 lol

ППТ-27, ППД-34, ППД-38, ППД-40, ППШ-41, ППС-42, ППС-43.

@GunsOfTheWorld How's the accuracy and felt recoil on both guns?

@GunsOfTheWorld

Жыл бұрын

This specific MP40 was shooting high left and the PPSH shot a bit high but both are still pretty accurate. Recoil is almost not there with the MP40, the PPSH has a bit more because of the fire rate but is still very controllable.

Outstanding video

hello. would like to ask how many bullets are in each ammo

Amazing

Very nice test...two off THE best maskinpistols on wwll........

If I could own One single firearm, any one I wanted, it would be an MP-40. Just breaths cool. Question-why the skips in the PPSH FA footage? Jams?

It would be a mp40 for me because if the controlability yes even if the ppsh can singlefire

God I love both of these SMGs but I gotta go with the PPSH-41 on this one

ППШ по «веселей» конечно 😁

@user-vf1tz8nd1w

Жыл бұрын

Это точно

1:24 dang i though call of duty world at war got the firing sound effect wrong but it’s pretty spot on

👌👌

Me quedo con las dos exelentes armas de colección en estos tiempos invaluables

Прицельная дальность стрельбы у ППШ почти в два раза дальше.Ну и магазин барабанный дает в ближнем бою(особенно в городских условиях) преимущество.И минусов-вес тяжелее и барабанный магазин долго с наряжать.

The PPS-43 is sort of like a hybrid between the MP40 and PPSH. Its all metal construction and folding stock have the features of the Mp40. Its ammo, handguard, and magazine takes that of the PPSH. Honestly the PPS is my favorite SMG of the war. But between these two id take the MP40

Главное нет сравнения дальности поражения, у ППШ +1/3

@Ivan_Ivanov_

Жыл бұрын

Что означает +1/3 ?

I think PPSH wins. If only they had been made to better spec.

You gotta get your hands on some old Zastava rifles if you haven’t already :)

Оба хороши...немцы любили ППШ 41 за скорострельность и вместительность магазина...наши любили МП 40 за небольшой вес и удобность...все это в себе объединил ППШ 43...тогда немцы пошли дальше и создали МП 44...наш не отставали, и все хорошие идеи ВМВ воплотили в АК 47...

Man, do you have, or do you know the MAB38 italian SMG?

How do you get these guns in the first place? Can't help but think it's a pretty expensive hobby.

Sir Kindly guide me im looking for 9mm pistol kindly suggest me i have only 3 options here in my country . 1- Girsan regard MC 2- Girsan regard MC R9 3- taurus PT-92 AF Please suggest me which is more reliable and durable for long term use. Thanx

I used to have an MP40 and now have 2 PPSH41s. For the fun factor the PPSH41 wins but not for ergonomics where the better one is the MP40. The ergo on a PPSH41 with a drum is terrible not to mention the problem of not having a pistol grip. The PPSH41 has the upper hand on the power of the round, solid construction, reliability and that it is auto and semi fire. The MP40 wins on ergonomics, magazine changing and handling. Just note that the Russians then made the PPS43 with a stick magazine a mag well like and a folding stock like an MP 40, what does that tell us? In the choice of only these two, I guess I would take the PPSH41 with the stick mags. If the PPS43 has a selector switch in my opinion it would be the best subgun of WW2 with the best features of both the PPSH41 and MP40 less the selector switch. Also the PPSH41 is only an inch shorter than an AK47. In a modern SHTF situation where I needed a subgun I would take the Vz26.

I prefer the Beretta M38A, when you try this model?

The best

Which would of these would I want in combat? The PPSH-41; the capacity of the drum magazine alone makes all the difference in the world.

it's so chill to watch a video of somebody shooting some guns without commentary

Can I beg you to try the SS1 and SS2 weapons, and how it feels like komodo guns

I'd have thought the German gun with its folding stock would be superior in suburban room to room combat situations. Lighter, shorter, thus more wieldy. 🙂

Both... both are good

The MP40 is superior in terms of accuracy but the PPSH-41 is the better of the two in terms of rate of fire, stopping power, magazine capacity and reliability. The 9mm is a more accurate round, but the 7.62x25mm combines velocity of the 9mm with the stopping power of the .45 ACP. Another bonus that PPSH-41 has over the MP40, much like the Thompson for example, is that it can be used as a melee weapon due to it having a solid wooden stock. You can easily beat someone with it because of that. Imagine being in a firefight and suddenly you and your opponent run of ammo. Hitting or striking someone on the head with the PPSH-41 is like getting hit in the head with a baseball bat. The MP40's collapsible stock isn't really well suited for hand to hand combat, all though it still could theoretically speaking. The PPSH-41 is the best out of the two. There's a reason why the PPSH-41 is still remarkably in service in several countries and by many groups and militias world wide to this very day.

@FerretCuddles

Ай бұрын

#autismspeaks

The DUX-53 and DUX-59 were submachine guns developed at the Oviedo Arsenal in Spain. They were based directly on the design of the Finnish 9 mm Model 44 submachine gun, which in turn was based on the Soviet PPS-43. Фирмы Аншутц и Маузер жо 1980 года копировали советский пистолет пулемет. тут даже не надо спорить. ППС - лучший в мире.

This is quite possibly the most based video ever poasted by any channel. Thanks!

@GunsOfTheWorld

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it man! Thank you!

Waouh 😍😍🇨🇵

It's just like a battle between Doomguy and Master Chief. They're both great, and would probably just end up joining forces.

@PAPAMACTV-veryunfunny-

Жыл бұрын

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@ShaedTheMoron

Жыл бұрын

@@VrilWaffen "Between 1939 and 1941, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were Allied." And I'm talking about the guns, not the forces. Clearly your name is false.

@christopherbrice5473

Жыл бұрын

@@ShaedTheMoron They were not allied. They were both tooling up for a conflict.

@ShaedTheMoron

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherbrice5473 Look it up my guy

MP 40 slightly edged it. Your a great shot mate. 👍

MP-40 for me. More easily controlled and less weight to deal with.

@joe125ful

Жыл бұрын

More recoil and worst accuraci hmm.. And weight its not that much different 34grams+- with normal mags.

@todyboy9744

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@swe1733

Жыл бұрын

The difference in weight is 0.034 kg. It can't even be called an advantage. By the way, faster-firing guns have easier recoil control. Just compare how his body jerks (1:24), (1:42).

@morranon7340

Жыл бұрын

@@swe1733 "easier recoil control" yeah we all saw how he hit less rounds with the faster firing gun....

@morranon7340

Жыл бұрын

@@joe125ful The MP40 has less recoil and better accuracy though

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The Germans valued captured PPSH-41 above their own MP40 in WW2 , and i think that says it all

@R18Y

Жыл бұрын

Not quite. Both sides valued _any_ submachine gun they could find as they were almost always better than bolt action rifles in the context of the fighting they were involved in. They absolutely did not have the luxury on the Eastern Front to pick between the two (especially the Axis). The PPS43 (PPSH replacement) of course appears to have taken many of the features of the MP40 including the slower rate of fire and folding stock.

@57protazan39

Жыл бұрын

​@@R18Y The most important thing of the PPS43 is its excellent characteristics and ease of manufacture.

Interesting. Both are useful military weapons. But by comparison the M1 carbine was much lighter - at a bit over 5 lbs -, fired a significantly more powerful round, was more accurate, and had a much greater effective range than either the MP40 or the PPSH. I believe I'd take the carbine and accept SA over full auto.

@charles1964

Жыл бұрын

There's a reason the Carbine was the most recaptured weapon on the Western Front

@sking3492

Жыл бұрын

Always liked the carbine.

@charles1964

Жыл бұрын

@@6610storm 7.65X25mm Tokarev = 85g FMJ @1630ft/s and 514ft/lbs (VERSUS) 7.62X33 .30 Carbine = 110g FMJ @1990ft/s and 967ft/lbs...There's for your Bullsh1t...

@6610storm

Жыл бұрын

@@charles1964That's true, but my opinion it isn't only about energy, i'm talking about penetration standard army cartridges.Tokarev have steel core and that's the reason...

@charles1964

Жыл бұрын

@@6610storm The vast majority of Tokarev cartridges are FMJ, but even with steel cored ammo, the metric for judging stopping power is the same. Terminal Ballistics at Target = Stopping Power; over penetration is just wasted energy...From a 12inch Barrel @100M -> 7.65X25mm =750 Joules; 9X19mm = 660 Joules; 7.62X33 =1310 Joules...The figures show the Tokarev superior to 9X19 Para but Sh1tting on the Carbine's effectiveness is a mistake, go ask Raphael Trujillo or Bugsy Siegel their opinion of the 7.62X33's Stopping Power?