You could guarantee the long-term financial future of MotorWeek by selling those snazzy satin Starter jackets.

I love how even the early BMW's brake the same. The whole chassis goes down instead of the front end dipping like most other cars.

@SparrowNoblePoland

3 жыл бұрын

That's some really good and expensive shock absorbers that stop the rear from going up just at breaking, but not necessarily when rear wheels drop into ditch.

@Friebe1000

2 жыл бұрын

Its not that hard to just add more rear braking. Most cars just cheap out so they nose dive

I bought an '86 325e for $300 as a parts car, then ended up driving it for 6 years with close to zero issues. It had 660,000 miles on the clock when I finally sold it. I miss that little car. It was about as rev happy as a can opener, but it just WORKED!

@davidparker9676

4 жыл бұрын

The e-motor is solid if you keep it maintained properly. The only people that I know that had problems with them are the ones that thought filling the gas tank was routine maintenance. There are certain cars that will go and go if you do what the maintenance schedule prescribes.

@chinchy111

3 жыл бұрын

the e30 straight six is one of the most reliable engines ever made. they are good for over 1 million miles. it will run rings around all the new crap of today

@a.person7825

3 жыл бұрын

“Rev happy as a can opener”..now that’s good. You mind if I use that from now on?😆

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.person7825 It wasn't tuned to be rev happy, friend owned 528e, drove it to death. Could it keep up with 535is? NO! Ach nein! Wasn't meant to, was tuned for post OPEC gas crisis EPA world, BMW vs. Audi, 1 review said eta BMWs made the brand selling volume to dentists in Oxnard.

"The rear end can be accurately position for a turn by the throttle." Truest statement ever. I remember drifting mine into work/Taco Bell/around university parking lots with all that TORK.

@BigEightiesNewWave

4 жыл бұрын

Peter Tork ?

@davidparker9676

4 жыл бұрын

@@BigEightiesNewWave People think he's monkeying around, but he's to busy drifting to learn how to spell torque. I guess that university got passed up in favor of greasy fast food.

@alepepperoni2563

Жыл бұрын

Love me some TORK

EXCELLENT time capsule! Host was so subdued (& had so much hair) I didn't even recognize him from later years.

I like BMWs of this era. they had the mystic mondern ones lack... and a jetfighter styled cockpit ofcourse!

I pretty much watch these all day, lol. I learn soo much!

Love this!! This is exactly what I wanted to see in your retro reviews!

@fernandorocha8459

9 ай бұрын

I love theses BMW 1980s, 1985-1988 is my favorites

I've been waiting for this one. Thank you!

5:10 A wild Camaro has appeared; attacks with burnout.

I've got an 85 635csi and love it not boring at all great car to drive ,it will do 120 all day I've had it at 140

$12,000 ENGINE REBUILD SON!!!!! -Mr Regular of Regular Car Reviews

@davidparker9676

4 жыл бұрын

Who is charging $12K for a rebuild? Someone lied to you.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

aka Buy a new car.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidparker9676 He said he wouldn't come in his mouth, HAH! We've ALL been there, million$ & million$ $serviced.

Funny how back then those acceleration times were considered quick....

1:32 John: Since the others (Sports seats) were tight if you had a big lunch! LOL

@Porsche996driver

4 жыл бұрын

Drive well and eat well ha. John knew a few things.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

John IS a big lunch!

In 1994, I talked my father into buying a 1986 4-dr BMW 325e, in silver metallic with tan interior. 5-speed, 6 cyl. It was the car I learned to drive in. It was in fantastic shape, with only 1 owner. It was an incredible car, even in 1995-1997. I miss that car so much. I've had VW and Audi since then, but that particular BMW was something special. Today's BMW's are nightmares outside of their warranties. I now have a new 2017 VW Passat SE, and it's the closet feeling of satisfaction to that BMW of long ago.

@bananaguy7891

4 жыл бұрын

@1vw4me first I would change that name of yours. you need to start telling the universe what you really want. Yes. BMWs cost more to maintain. So you can either save money or make more money. And problem solved. I believe you can afford it! FYI. It’s not that they are expensive to maintain, my experience is the specialty mechanics only want to use BMW parts. Use aftermarket and find yourself a guy that’ll install them.

Still like that 1986 325 in 2023. I drive a 2015 Corolla LE, and if I ever think my 0 to 60 in 8.5 to 9 seconds with a 132 horsepower engine is weak for today’s standards, then I feel better about that 325 that looked awesome in the 1980s and even today.

Apparently those Eta engined 3 series were workhorses. I love the design of the 635. Still timeless

@davidparker9676

4 жыл бұрын

The ETA engines were nearly bulletproof. BMW using a timing belt was probably the biggest mistake. The only M20 engines that had problems are the ones that were neglected (overheated, no oil changes, no timing belt replacement) otherwise they are good for 300,000 miles

@chinchy111

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidparker9676 they are good for over 1 million. Mobil 1 tested the m20 with their oil a long time ago

@davidparker9676

3 жыл бұрын

@@chinchy111 I wonder if those were laboratory-condition miles or actual driven miles. The M20 will easily go 300K miles with normal maintenance. I could see them getting 1 million with exceptional care and early maintenance.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

They produced 6er for over a decade, with constant tech. & engineering updates, good enough for Cybil Shepherd, who was Moonlighting. Susan Dey drove predecessor E9 in L.A. Law & Partridge Family bus b4 that.

In Europe the 635CSi had 211HP, big difference!

@MarquisRex

9 жыл бұрын

The Euro M30 of this era actually had 218 Bhp thanks to higher CR. The later M30 in Europe went down to 211 Bhp in the E32 due to lower CR.

@trajanaugustus8783

5 жыл бұрын

With emissions control it had 211, without it was up to 218hp.

Hey, MotorWeek, you guys wouldn't happen to have a Retro Review of the BMW Compact that came out in the early/mid-nineties? I have a 1996 and it would be cool to see a review of when it was brand new.

Do you think you could do a retro review of the 2002 ws6 trans am? My dad remembers seeing it back in 2002 and would love to be able too see it again. One thing he remembers most about it is someone talking about how all they had to do to make it into a Daytona pace car was add the lights and stickers

موسيقي ،مسلسل،BMW كلهم رائعين.

The current BMW 3 series (F30) is longer, wider, taller and just as heavy as the E24 6-series. BMW's are WAY too big these days. And boring too. These cars here (E30, E24) are gorgeous.

@1400IntruderVS

7 жыл бұрын

The 6 series was sexy but the old 3 series were just another box.

@briankelly9347

5 жыл бұрын

@MilkTrafficker or audi

@doublevanoz

4 жыл бұрын

@@1400IntruderVS ay ay watch pal I'm a little sensitive towards that "box" as you call it. Prolly you drive a shit box

@davidparker9676

4 жыл бұрын

@@1400IntruderVS I guess every car is either a box or a melted bar of soap to you. The E30 is the top choice of the entire 3-series lineup for enthusiasts. The E30 was basically a well engineered driver's car, it had what you needed and not much of what you didn't. The E24 6-series was a nice design but not the well balanced performer that the 3&5 series offered. I think of it as a two door 7-series, a bit too heavy and soft.

@SparrowNoblePoland

3 жыл бұрын

Look what they released now. Cheap plastic and huge fake intakes everywhere. The most disgusting BMWs in history since Adolf Hitler used their engines to bomb entire European continent..

The straight-6 eta engines were VERY torque-y! Lots of squirt off the line...they didn't rev much because that uses lots of gas. I got 30 mpg easily in my 325e.

Great old times...

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

From a distance...

You guys have any reviews on the 80s S-class Benz sedans or coupes? Thanks

My 635csi only has 106,000 miles on it and it's 39 years old

I'm thin and love the e30 sport seats! Way better than the hard Recaros inold gti's

121 HP sounds pretty puny for a 2.7 liter. On the other hand, it's pretty impressive that it was enough to smoke the rear tires on the sedan in the 0-60.

@alkoyyy

7 жыл бұрын

it was layed out specifically for low rpms and high fuel efficiency. the regular 2.5liter engine in the e30 made 170hp

@FlyingTigersKMT

7 жыл бұрын

Matthew Ford - That's the whole point of the "e" line of Eta engines. They're made for fuel economy which was the major issue when these cars were sold. The regular 325i had the regular engine making a lot more power relative to the Eta engine versions.

@trajanaugustus8783

5 жыл бұрын

The engine was more for pulling loads and fuel efficiency, the German spec'd models had the 2.7e 122hp and later a 2.7e (still 325e) with 129hp. Of course the higher rated ones were the 2.5i with 171hp until 86 and from 87 on it was tuned to 170hp with more torque along with emissions control.

@fezzial

4 жыл бұрын

yah, but it also made 170lb of tq =)

One of my current cars is a 1986 325e 4-door in bronzitbeige metallic (269k miles on the clock). Goes without saying I wish it was as in good of shape as this one! LOL =) Slightly off subject, when does the blue & silver Subie XT get its own video? Thanks for uploading these! =)

Does Retro Review get any better? Nuthin' like seeing a way-back test of David Addison and Maddie Hayes BMW Coupe from Moonlighting. Signed, An 80's Kid! 📺

@gxdjoeybaby07

9 жыл бұрын

I always think of the w126's from the opening credits when I think of Moonlighting =)

Shiny blue jacket alert !

A wild Subaru XT in the background! 5:55

Miss my e30 convertible practically every day..

I love the 80'e BMW car

oh the body lean lol!

@johanbrand8601

2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful isn't it

Many luxury cars today don't have power headrests!lol

Cars used to wallow around so much back then, but now they're too firmly sprung.

@britishsecretagent0078

4 жыл бұрын

Walter Black I think goldilocks feels the same way. However the 3 bears have mixed opinions

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

@@britishsecretagent0078 Now most drive like porridge.

The 635 is still a beautiful car. Better looking than the current rabbit teeth grilles they have now that moved away from the gorgeous kidney grilles.

while not that impressive in stock form, the M30 straight 6 has a lot of room for improvement and decent enough aftermarket support i wouldn't mind having a nice 5spd 635 E24 if i could find one in decent condition for the right price, they're also now old enough (25yr exemption) in my state to be exempt from emissions testing so engine modifications would be no issue

Lol at "strangely oriental headrests". Looking at the HP figures and 0-60 times, we're truly living in a performance golden age. Even a run of the mill modern family sedan would blow both these cars away, and likely handle better as well.

This model is now a classic

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

It was then. What compared?

Sounds like good performance.

@1400IntruderVS

7 жыл бұрын

Fair for the era but not class leading.

@jasoncarpp7742

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe not, but not poor by any standards.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasoncarpp7742 Check back with us when you can drive. If & when...

Were's the retro vid of the 84 Monte SS ?

john davis is baked @ 6:14

Take note of the 635's HP and torque numbers with that big straight 6, we've gotten way too spoiled the past 15 years or so. Sure it's lighter than a modern car, but 3400+ lbs isnt exactly considered lightweight even by todays standards, but admittedly would fall more towards the light end compared to similarly sized cars. Want all the gadgets/features, huge wheels, big brakes, room for rear seat passengers/cargo plus 5* safety ratings? It's going to weigh hundreds more than simpler cars from the 80's-90's.

I didn't know that the 4-door 3 Series was released 9 years into its long production run.

@gregbez

3 жыл бұрын

Only in the US market. The 4 door came out a few years after the 2 door in other markets.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

1983, why do you think Daimler went down market with 190E?

Back when BMWs attracted my interest. So the US got a 2.7 litre 121 hp six when Europe got a 2.5 litre 150 hp six ...I'm assuming the US one was stifled by emissions?

@Faza_M

6 жыл бұрын

2.7l 325e not i, are made for economical not for performance that's why 325e cannot rev very high like 325i 2.5l 168hp

@chinchy111

3 жыл бұрын

US got the 2.5 also

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

@@chinchy111 325is

do you guys weather correct the times?

@Motorweek

9 жыл бұрын

We should, but no. I record air and track temps but they seldom get mentioned. Maybe something for us to consider

@kirbyswarp

9 жыл бұрын

***** Is this the reason MotorTrend tends to get faster times?

@Motorweek

9 жыл бұрын

kirbyswarp everone has their formula, we stay as real world as possible... it's even possible that the tires aren't as fresh for us as they are for others. We are B - list most of the time

@emeyer6963

9 жыл бұрын

***** A List with us though!Happy Holidays MW Staff

@lfsracer79

9 жыл бұрын

kirbyswarp MotorTrend and other magazines also use a one foot rollout so their 0-60 times are far from real world.

187 '80's Yuppies liked this!

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

They're dead, AIDS or coke, I know, I was there, sold them both.

At 1:39 a not so subtle dig at the lack of oil pressure and voltage gauges. Curious what year he stopped complaining about this.

@a.person7825

3 жыл бұрын

He hasn’t.

What year is this?

@jeepthing98

9 жыл бұрын

I think 1986

@WHO9119

9 жыл бұрын

The year is in the title 1986

@hawkermustang

9 жыл бұрын

Its odd that cars like the new Honda Fit are faster than this BMW. It don't seem like its been 29 years though.

@05gtdriver

9 жыл бұрын

hawkermustang Perhaps faster in an all out acceleration test, but in everyday driving, the 325e's wider and larger torque curve would make for a better everyday driver, especially when merging onto freeways, etc.. I had a rental Nissan Versa Note recently(similar to a Fit) and it would go nicely from a standstill when prodded, but in traffic, while on the move, it's still a low-torque 4 cylinder econobox. People seem to be fascinated by pure acceleration figures, torque and when and where it's produced on the rpm range is what gives a vehicle that satisfying feel when driving IMO.

@hawkermustang

9 жыл бұрын

05gtdriver This BMW has 121 hp from a 2.7 liter but the Honda Fit has 130 hp and and 114 ft pounds of torque from a 1.5 liter. The Versa has only 109 hp from a 1.6 liter. The Fit will outrun the Versa with ease. Not that the Fit is built for speed. Its just an economy car.

Where are the Members Only jackets ?

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

Jealous?

"Looks Oriental", so it looks like a rug? Man this must be the 1980s with terms like that...

@2BArchives

9 жыл бұрын

Me Chinese, me play joke. Me go pee-pee in your Coke.

@BigEightiesNewWave

4 жыл бұрын

They are Oriental...what's the big deal ? And people are retarded.

@SnarkyRC

Жыл бұрын

I'm Oriental

@pbfloyd13

Жыл бұрын

@@SnarkyRC Bijar or Kilim?

Is this 1984?

@jeepthing98

9 жыл бұрын

I think 1986 becase he says "the '85 633 we last tested.."

These cars are TINY in comparison to current BMWs.....even BMWs of the 90’s and early 2000’s were small by today’s standards. I used to be a die-hard BMW fan; they looked so sleek and elegant. But nowadays, it seems like every other person has a BMW in either black, silver, white, or beige and they’re so boring looking. They’re all just slightly longer versions of each other the higher you go up in their series. At least Mercedes has distinct looks for all of its different models.

@vincentbeijing6926

3 жыл бұрын

Really? C, E and S Class look like Russian dolls to me

Last good BMW’s.

Amerykański Seba w niebieskiej kurtce. XD

121hp from the 2.7 engine!? Eh...? Even the 320i of the day could almost match that? Why did they water down the engine so much?

@Runeakb

7 жыл бұрын

Because they wanted to make a petrol engine with diesel like mileage and torque. E stands for η [eta], which is the symbol for efficiency in engineering

@fezzial

4 жыл бұрын

it made 170lbs of tq

Beautiful cars, and very real. The sampled engine sound going through the speaker system is what millennial generation gave us. Probably for us not to be "offended" with reality.

@Andyface79

4 жыл бұрын

Blah blah blah snowflakes yawn. You know what makes you a snowflake? Commenting on other people being one.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

Exhaust sounds, like emissions, frequently regulated & so they are autotuned in. Hopefully not the emissions...

@chinchy111

2 жыл бұрын

the reason why so many cars today have fake engine sound playing through the speakers is because people this generation are more bitchy and complain about loud cars. so the fake sound lets the driver hear all the sound from inside the car and the outside is quiet. have to keep the snowflakes happy somehow

1986 BMW 2.7 liter I6 121 hp. 1996 Honda 1.6 Liter I4 127 hp.

@leahcimblanco7799

3 жыл бұрын

1982 Honda 1.3 i4 85 hp

@tomasnokechtesledger1786

3 жыл бұрын

@@leahcimblanco7799HAHAH exact same thing... 1983 Honda 1.3 L 85hp huh ? So, 1.3L x 2 = 2.6L and its 85hp x2 = 170hp 1985 BMW is 2.7L and had only 121hp. Thanks for prooving my point!

@johanbrand8601

2 жыл бұрын

That's not the point.

@chinchy111

2 жыл бұрын

this is the fuel efficient model its not meant to have a lot of horsepower

@tomasnokechtesledger1786

2 жыл бұрын

@@chinchy111No More efficient than a Honda.

Back when BMW was great

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

If only you ever where.

@SnarkyRC

Жыл бұрын

​@@unowen-nh9ov Nice engrish

I am glad BMW's look better than they use to in the 80s. I remember them back in the day and I could never appreciate their designs at all. I thought they were ugly back then.

@willzer808

7 жыл бұрын

you must be on some nasty drugs

@johnls39

7 жыл бұрын

Going by your appearance based on your photo, anyone can say that about you, not about me based on my comment or subjective opinion about the car. Other than that, fuck off, dumbass. I don't give a fuck if you don't like my comment about the car.

@willzer808

7 жыл бұрын

johnls39 i was just joking brother, but yeah i came across as a dumb fuck. Apologies.

@johnls39

7 жыл бұрын

willzer808 I accept your apology. My apologies also. Sometimes I have no way of knowing who is trolling or being sarcastic. No hard feelings, enjoy.

@German-Fox

5 жыл бұрын

I'm the owner of a '89 BMW635CSi, the most beautiful lines for a coupe - ever! I understand that beauty is difficult to define, but those big coupes are gorgeous. Don't get me wrong, I also love today's Bimmers a lot (e.g. i8, X6, M4, etc.), but my sixer is a different world altogether!

Detuned American models eww, had a 87 325i, 170ish bhp.

@Jojo21453

6 жыл бұрын

It is the 325e, e stands for the greek letter Eta, used by engineers to describe efficiency and that was what this engine was all about. It had high compression and a long stroke, making it very torquey but it wouldn't like to rev. You were able to buy the eact same engine in most of europe. The 325i could also be bought in the US with the same amount of horsepower, that you could buy it with in europe.

@mosesberkowitz3298

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jojo21453 Those engines were VERY torque-y! Lots of squirt off the line...they didn't rev much because that uses lots of gas. I got 30 mpg easily in my 325e.

Back when after purchasing a BMW it didn’t loose 73% of its value after you left the lot. I wish they would stop with all the sensors and gimmicks that break not to mention every fluid that the car has leaking non-stop. I wish BMW was about quality and dependability .

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

EVERY new car depreciates off the lot, I wish you weren't a whiney loser.

This show is so much easier to take when John Davis isn't yelling at you. Why does he think he needs to yell these days? Compare his tone then to today's!

@mosesberkowitz3298

4 жыл бұрын

Great comment. He not only yells, he talks like a parody of himself. And the constant electric guitar noise on the new ones sucks too. Repent, Motorweek!

@hertzair1186

4 жыл бұрын

xr500t : maybe his hearing is gone...

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

@@hertzair1186 His audience's.

Back when BMW still made quality vehicles. Now they make trash with fugly buck tooth beaver grills.

Just as slow as I remember them.

@unowen-nh9ov

2 жыл бұрын

You're just as dull.

@chinchy111

2 жыл бұрын

its the fuel efficient model its meant to be slow