As long as KTM exists, this would always be considered an aesthetically pleasing motorbike

@Beans672

3 жыл бұрын

Ha. Spot on

@gilvietor1918

3 жыл бұрын

Truer words have never been said.

@livelyartichoke1543

2 жыл бұрын

Gosh from some angles I love it, from some 🤢

@vstm3950

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@stephenmitchum5864

Жыл бұрын

You do have to wonder how the designers at KTM keep their jobs.

Have recently purchased one of these 2nd hand and had a weekend away 400 plus miles everything I expected quirky, comfortable, excellent fuel economy, just a couple of things I would say about this review its an 850 not a 1200 , so I wouldn't consider it a big twin in the modern sense, so yeah it needs more revs & gear changing having previously owned a 1200gs, it's gearchanging is an absolute joy by comparison, also I wouldn't consider it a retro & if it didn't have a TFT the motorcycle press would ruin it, if your considering something different try one you may find it's everything your looking for. ,

You buy a bmw with your head,you buy a moto guzzi with your heart.

I love the styling. It is so classic that it is not boring to look at.

Totally agree with this I bought one in april and have done over 10500 miles on it but absolutely love mine

I can't help but love this bike ever since I saw them in the flesh! Thanks for the video Mr Flyer!

Nothing like a Moto Guzzi I've had a Norge for 11 years and love it.

My first bike Was a Guzzi, tried other bikes made in Thailand, India , America and one with a motor from China in a german body 😆. Well, I’m still riding a Guzzi and just picked up a 2020 v85tt travel. To be noted- when you let the guzzi’s breath with better exhaust and a fuel Remab they come alive and sound like no other machine out there. speaking from experience.

@karelkrticka2786

11 ай бұрын

:) ...and what is a better exhaust?

@mattbryonphoto2357

11 ай бұрын

@@karelkrticka2786 mistral exhaust is my favourite

@jeffloucks2120

3 ай бұрын

@@karelkrticka2786 Very expensive prospect on these bikes.

Nice to see the shaft drive, and ease of access to the rear shock absorber for easy adjustment. So many monoshocks hidden in the bowels of the bike, and directly in the line of fire from debris flung off the rear tyre. Matte blue looks nicer than Ronald MacDonald edition.

Well done TMF. A very good honest review that pulls no punches and critically reviews bikes instead of the usual kissing bottom that some of the pro journo’s always do when reviewing👍

Thanks for the footage and honest opinions about the MG V85TT - pros and cons, Sir. I Always enjoy watching your videos. Best regards from Italy.

The gear position indicator probably works the same way as the one on my Harley. It calculates which gear you're in by comparing revs and road speed, so it won't work until you let the clutch out. Personally, the only time I really use it is when I'm cruising, to check whether I'm in 5th or 6th. I took a test ride on the V85TT and really liked it.

@jfro5867

4 жыл бұрын

Correct. Clutch has to be fully out for it to register. But you do get used to it quickly. No biggy really

@richardlandry5020

2 жыл бұрын

And the 2021 has a real gear indicator and tubeless tires…great bike and alternate to a GS which is a great bike itself.

@gryphongryph

11 ай бұрын

I think it’s the same as the Super Tenere.

Nice honest and thorough review as always. Thank you.

I have had the moto guzzi bobber v9 for three years now as you know. I loved the review and I'm very happy you had the chance to spend some time with it, it may not fully come across in your video but I know it's a bike experience you'll remember and mention for years to come. The con's I can relate to and I would add to the 'running out of puff' at high speeds that the sweet spot is around 55 - 60 in 5th gear which is pretty strange, I find that on long trips I now stay in the slow lane and accept a longer more cruiser style ride on motorways and may do all my distances on A roads from now on. I'd love one of the new V9's the new paint jobs are amazing. The pluses I can relate to aswel, it really is a head Turner and I've never had a bike that gets this many looks by half, and I mean...by half. The V7 and all it's iterations are in a market all of there own, a shaft driven 700 transverse twin? Pff brilliant. Yep definitely not bikes for everyone but I'd like everyone to have the experience of having rode one let's put it that way.

Very fair and comprehensive. Excellent stuff Captain. Happy travels.

I have just bought my V85TT, I prefer the looks over the BMW R1200/1250GS. I like the minimalist switches. The second generation has the gear selection visible with the clutch in. The tall screen is great. The only niggle I have is the cruise control, when it is activated but not in use, the flashing light attracts the eye and I keep thinking that the indicator is on. It does have a nice sound from the exhaust, not to loud but not strangled like some. I am running in and on a 205 mile run it did 66 MPG.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Nice one - something a bit different to the crowd too…

I have never seen such a good quality video like this. Cheers

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Crikey thank you!

Love the sound of M-Gs. Congrats on another great review!

Hey Andy, I always enjoy your vids, Bike Scran in particular! but haven't looked at many reviews. I'm in the market for a V85TT to replace my GS and now I see why your channel is so much more popular than some of the other brit youtubers, really enjoyed the reviews on this bike, very real world and useful, thanks again!

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure - thanks for the kind words!

You do the best I depth reviews on KZread keep it up tmf

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

The pros defenitely take over the cons of this bike.. such a unique motorcycle! Nice and honest review, like it!

Cheers to Moto Guzzi for building motorcycles that constantly reminds you your on a motorcycle and not sitting atop an automobile on two wheels. I do agree TFT's should display information in analogue (dials and arrows) adding to the riders sensory input and riding experience. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Big Bird too.

@theodoremarakas9899

4 жыл бұрын

Gene Clarke I have a V9 and love it. The TFT display is about the only thing that I would complain about. I’m old school, I like the needles. Certainly NOT a me too bike, everywhere you go, it stands out from the crowd. Moto Guzzi is a bike that you either love or hate. No middle ground. It is a “gentleman’s” bike

@vackjugugl9503

3 жыл бұрын

@@theodoremarakas9899 plus a gentle woman or girls bike

@TheHomjom

2 жыл бұрын

@@theodoremarakas9899 True, love the optic of the Veglia displays on the older bikes

@EmopunkDr

11 ай бұрын

@@TheHomjom TFT are for sure cheaper. That's why every brand is using those screens. I wonder how long will they last, expecially when you park your motorcycle in open sun. For sure you can still use Veglia instruments on 30 years old bikes.. Will we able to do the same with this TFTs? I doubt it..

Another 1st class review TMF. Agree on the clocks. MG dealer 15 mins from me in Falkirk, it's lovely in the flesh. Not sure about the yellow, the white and red one's beautiful.

Hi mate. Thanks for the review. I'm super glad you talked about the heat coming off the bike. Very few reviewers look into this very important aspect. I live in Australia and as you became aware on that 37C day, this is a massive issue when deciding which bike to purchase. I hope you include a mention of the engine heat in EVERY review you do. Thanks.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Well normally it’s not worth a mention - but some bikes just dish the heat and this is one of them! Still not as hot as my Panigale though!

@tcpiptv

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah Ducati's are not popular in Australia due to heat issues. They're definitely in the class of "winter bikes".

Looks certainly are subjective ! .. to me the Guzzi looks a thousand times better than any pig ugly GS ever made !

@vageliskoios1062

3 жыл бұрын

And much more cheaper with cheaper service as well and one of the best vfm

Great review. I love this type of detail information. I hope you get to review the moto guzzi audace.

You should do more of these Lessons Learned which I found very informative in contrast to the initial ride you do which is more general.

I bought mine in Jan 20 and I must admit that I love it. Yes it isn't the most potent bike out there but if you stir the gearbox it is great fun to ride. Distinctive and comfortable too.

@TheMissendenFlyer

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

Come on TMF, of course it looks awesome. The problem for MG, in the UK, is it's not a predictable air-cooled retro twin roadster, fitted with knobbly tyres, brown seat and a grill over the headlight. So the mid-life crisis, British hipster bikers won't 'get it', as it won't fit in at the 'oily, old-school, smoked garage, coffee roasting, foundry, warehouse, which seems to the pervade of UK motorcycling these days. Hang on,...…...actually, it is air-cooled and fitted with knobblies, so maybe there's still hope :-)

Nice honest review and to be honest the looks are something that I struggle with as well.

Agree with the looks, you summed it up with the Big Bird reference on Biker Scran with G & D, I keep looking for Elmo and the Cookie Monster to jump out haha.

Nice bike.. like the engine size and another comprehensive review. Cheers

I think it's a great looking bike, a little bit outside the box so to speak, and that can't be a bad thing. I owned a Motto Guzzi Stelvio some years ago. The only way to describe the engine was it had soul. I think Motto Guzzi are on to a winner here.

Nice review. I must say I'm positive for the looks. It's strikingly original. Not sure I'd call it retro like other Moto Guzzis however. Looks fab in silver.

Great review, I love the look

Thank you TMF! I honestly feel like I'm on my own thinking that TFT screen sticks out like a sore thumb, its an absolute carbuncle, I'm sure its very effective, but it couldn't be any more out of character for that bike!

Awesome review, very detailed!!

Just picked up a very lightly used 2023 in the same color, love it!

You mentioned Big Bird the other night. YES! That’s what I was trying to remember. Looks awesome side on though.

Still loving this bike TMF, I will be test riding one. That top end power issue is what I need to check out but love everything else about it.

“29 degrees C, almost too hot to be riding a bike” 😂😂. You should try to come to Texas where I live! Took my Thruxton out today, temp about 38-39C and it wasn’t that bad. Thanks for the nice review.

@JoshuaTootell

2 жыл бұрын

Rode my GSXR 500 miles round trip in a day on 100° weather in California, in full leathers 🤣

The TFT looks like a Big Screen TV !!! and I was never a Fan of the Engine look but to each his own.... The rest of the bike looks Great ! Outstanding Review Mate Cheers.

To me the looks is way better than the BMW GS or any BMW all terrain, running out of steam at high speeds ? well is a 850 cc what do you expect, and if you add those huge panniers the wind resistant is maybe too much for the motor. The only real issue could be the heat coming from the motor, I am a old school rider so for me changing gears frequently is part of the enjoyment. Cheers.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@gere7739

4 жыл бұрын

I've driven one in a test drive also in the traffic, I tought it was hotter but it isnt. I think its a well build multipourpose bike very comfortable and easy to drive.

@ArtTheTractor

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. I sold my R1200GSA few years ago, and as much as I am partial to BMW, they have nothing in their lineup that appeals to me - visually in particular. This MG may be just it or me.

@Benito-Musolesi

3 жыл бұрын

The heat from engine is useful for old sage balls

Nobody does it better! Fantastic review!

The looks are great !!! Beautiful bike

To me this is the most beautiful bike you can buy

Nice review. I'm tempted, will try this one out :)

I don’t understand this constant fascination with gear indicators on everything. Never had them never had a need dont understand why all of the sudden people feel it’s a necessity

@markkleinberg

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. If you are unable to perceive that you are in the wrong gear maybe get a Toyota Corolla. I love BMW as much as Mr. Flyer but just look at the price difference !

@mvjoshi

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Riding for 30 years now and never felt the need for one on the bikes that didn't have one and never looked at it in bikes that did. Frankly, of one needs a gear indicator, then one is not fit to ride a manual transmission automobile. At max, a neutral indicator is helpful, that's it.

@rogerwredford

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. They're for people who shouldn't be riding bikes. If you don't know what gear you're in, or you can't FEEL what gear you're in (ie. know the characteristics of the engine in your bike), you shouldn't really be riding one. You won't be able to accelerate properly (particularly when overtaking), brake properly (using engine braking), corner properly (correct gear essential to accurate cornering) ETC ETC. But unfortunately we live in a world of "lifestyle" biking nowadays... a world where a bike helps your image, or instagram "brand", or belatedly gives you the impression you really ARE the rebel you really WEREN'T. Knowing what gear you're in instinctively is as important as knowing your road positioning and body position. Those of us who did it back in the day progressed from 125-250-400-600 etc. and learny all this along the way but nowadays throw some money on the table and ride off on a big bike having driven a car all your life and expect it to do everything for you, and spend half your time nodding and waving at everyone who also happens to be on two wheels, rather than doing what you should be, learning how to properly control it and concentrating on what's going on in front of and behind you.... End of sermon....

@lama2584

3 жыл бұрын

Elitism usually scares away interest from new riders. And if anything we need more riders ( sensible ofcourse bot moped thieves scum )

@rogerwredford

3 жыл бұрын

@@lama2584 It isn't elitism per se, it's a question of aptitude, ability and desire to actually know how to ride properly, rather than have a shiny two-wheeled fashion /attitude accessory. Those who are going to come, will... the rest who are passing through, we can do without. I don't even think it necessarily produces better drivers either until you actually learn (and I don't mean passing your test...) how to ride PROPERLY, ie. road positioning, hazard awareness, gear selection etc etc. You only have to view the average headcam footage on here to see that many are not learning a thing, and so many develop a chip on their shoulder arguing, revving and gesticulating at the slightest perceived infraction on their road space (a hangover from car ownership) that they are actually giving genuine bikers a WORSE name. I'm all for new bikers... I was a new biker in my teens, myself, of course, but would you accept a member on , say, your golf course, if they shat in the bunkers, dug holes in the green or spent all their time at the clubhouse waffling on about their shiny 4 grand handmade clubs as they go around with a 28 handicap never improving... I'd be much more open to them if they were interested in the mechanics of the game, wanted to improve, spent time on the practice range and knew they were part of a history. Sorry about the golf analogy... I don't even play! Ultimately, motorcycling is a means of transport, even more so than a club of members... number one priority is learning how to do it properly, for your own safety and enjoyment and those of other road users... and I am by no means a doddering old fart on the roads. That's my point, and in a long and convoluted way, gear indicators de-skill you....

I didn't know Moto Guzzi were still making bikes Lol.😂 They made some fantastic bikes in the past. Excellent review as usual, thanks.

@doncarlo5

4 жыл бұрын

excuse me ... I don't know on which planet you've been living in the past 100 years ... Guzzi started building motorcycles in 1921 , and, as far as I know, they never stopped ...

Great review. I have a few comments of my own. I love the look of the Guzzi, but for a few key points : TFT screen becomes a bit irritating after a while, twin clocks would be much more suited. The front does let it down, a single headlight would be much better & get rid of the ugly beak. Never know why bikes have these. Overall though I like the colour combo. The bike is a bit sluggish and after getting back on my R9T I do notice this. But still a decent bike and something a bit different from all those GS's.

So to hear, it’s a very nice bike for easy touring through the countryside. We had 41,5°C at that time of the year in that part of the Netherlands where I live. A new record.

@williamrae9954

4 жыл бұрын

I live near Glasgow, it was about 12C ;)

Great review Andy, I had three times the chance to ride one and the only gripe I had is the useless gear indicator as gears are shown only when clutch is engaged(?!?) This rev limiter thing was also something I ran into - did 120 km/h on the motorway and it indicated to shift (but have been in 6th already ;-) ). No issues other than that power wise - it goes up to 170 km/h with ease never had problems overtaking anyone (except street bikes ;-) ). Heat wise well if you're used to a Tiger 1200 the V85TT feels cold in comparison. I like the looks but usually I "fall in love" with a bike (and buy it) which hasn't happened with the V85TT so far - even if it is an overall excellent bike. For the colours somebody mentioned - the matt gray and blue make the bike look boring, the red doesn't work either so it boils down to either the McDonalds or red-white colour scheme of which I'd prefer the latter. Stay safe

I love the looks. But I also loved the old Triumph Speed Triple with the duel round headlights.

@d4v1dv38

2 ай бұрын

Me too

SUPERB review. Thanks a lot really.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Alec

Nice review with a lot of information packed into a brief and to the point time period. Personally, I'm very attracted to this machine because it is unique, shaft driven, and quality-built. However, where I live in Central California, there's not a dealer within a day's ride. So, I'm still on the fence. Thanks for sharing your expertise.

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 жыл бұрын

I'm no expert Kent but glad you liked the video!

I think it looks great, better looking than a GS in my opinion, you get used to any characteristics of any bike in time. 29c too hot to ride? Come out to the Balkans in July and August at 36c+, all the gear all the time goes out the window. Agree with you on the TFT screen, i like dials.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mike!

Looks brilliant !!

Forme, that is the most gorgeous bike out right now. It's Spectacular!

I have to agree with you that the front looks a little weird, but I love the color scheme and could get past the looks of the front of the bike if it weren’t for the lack of grunt at the top end. I love the rush of a high speed overtake. 😊

So no real negatives. Good.

Just came across a 2nd hand one of these today and it did catch my eye. One careful owner and immaculate. Does my garage need another bike? No. But then I might! Your review was most helpful answering all my questions. Now to speak to my psychiatrist !

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 жыл бұрын

Best of luck!

Though I've not seen one in the flesh, I think I'm with you on the looks. Would love to hear your impressions of the little Moto Guzzi V7III! For the money, at least here in the U.S., it is a really fantastic bike! I suggest a standard variant, not the cafe style.

A very good review, thank you

Good review tmf, love mine, only negatives is the power up top but its not bad. Had a tiger 800 before this and i would pick the mg every day. Keep up the good work!

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers SJ - will do!

I love these honest review , made by the guys from the street, like you and I , who have no ties nor obligations to any dealerships ... otherwise the press guys, who gets free meals to showcase them ... they do have some obligations ... the won't tell ya , the ( whole ) truth ...

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Another nice review TMF. This was on my short list, along with the Tiger 800, in the end I got a F750GS and love it. The 750 does also have a nice low engine grumble.

@HDB112

11 ай бұрын

Funny to read, 3 years later those bikes are on my list as well (second hand). Did you keep the 750 or did you get something else later? I tend to go for the V85TT because of the shaft drive.

Love a bike with character but its not a retro its a Guzzi. Looks much better in the red and white. Prefer it to the BMW GS 850....and it has shaft drive.

Thanks 4 the nicely review 🏍🇮🇹👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Alberto...

@albertopadovani4237

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank to U Mister, I see all about Guzzi's World!!

Good final review TMF

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

The part you told about the gear position indicator was very familiar. It was just like my previous Aprilia Shiver. The Shiver doesn't use a fysical switch for the position but it caculates it with speed and revs. The Guzzi uses probably the same system. Aprilia and Moto Guzzi do share a lot of electronic parts.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I think you're right....

Thanks for the review. Agree that TFT dash is a drag - hate them - when I test drove the Triumph Scrambler 1200 I could not even read it half of the time due to sun glare. Maybe they are the concession to the iPhone generation? The other minus for me is the lack of tubeless tires - here at least Triumph made the right choice with the Scrambler 1200. Otherwise love this bike.

You just have to change the rev limiters in the console and it will give you the power where you need it. Programmed low for run in.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Really? I didn’t know that - great stuff....

@loddude5706

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, you mention having to work the box to stay on the power, yet the old T3 850 pulled like a train throughout. Are these now a very short stroke motor that relies on revs & the ECU for most of the torque? Or have the modern emission controls just taken the guts out of Guzzis over the years . . .

@stewartellinson8846

4 жыл бұрын

@@loddude5706 This is a long stretch of the old V35/50 powertrain. The T3 had a heavy flywheel which gave the impressio n of grunt, these don't. From memory, i think this gives the same claimed Bhp as my le mans - I'd think this is practically more though as people check these days. Also, i'd guess it'd rev more as the small blocks always did like to rev.

@loddude5706

4 жыл бұрын

@@stewartellinson8846 - Ah, a V50 with a big bore kit to offset the Euro-asthma power losses . . . cool : )

@stewartellinson8846

4 жыл бұрын

@@loddude5706 No, the 85TT makes the same power as the Le mans 850 did in 1976 and probably morre as 1970s italian horses were notoriously small and lazy!

It's about as retro as a BMW R1200gs but you like the TFT on that.

Good afternoon M F , I’ve just taken delivery of a V85 TT centario edition . Only done 400 kms and so far so good. My only real gripe is the wind noise from 55/60 kms per hour. The dealer is fitting the bigger screen next week. I hope it works . I get less noise off my ‘naked’ Triumph Bonnieville. Apparently because I’m 6 foot tall doesn’t help ! I know there are better bikes available but I bought the Guzzi because of the Character that you mentioned. I actually like the looks of the bike, just like marmite ……… Anyway I enjoy your videos. No bull …. just the truth . By the way the 2021 version now as tubeless tyres and 5 riding modes !! I’m happy with just two,road and rain 😊 no off road stuff for me . Cheers from Johannesburg.

@TheMissendenFlyer

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Anthony - glad you're enjoying the bike!

100% agree about having Dials over TFT!

It's different and I quite like it.

You just convinced me to buy this motorcycle:-))

Thanks for the comprehensive list of both pros and cons. One thing from your review that I was surprised about (in a good way) was that you could easily get your feet on the ground. Pictures are deceptive and this thing looked tall in pictures...whereas the Triumph Tigers have always looked lower than they are (to my eyes anyway). Seems like all of these manufacturers want to make these bikes for giants and average guys like you and I struggle to touch down.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

As usual a comprehensive review that sets the right context for the time I'd test the bike. As a former V7ii owner I sympathise with the "love or hate" angle on the style and the small quirks. The engine is what the technology allows in terms of usability/power. Being air cooled, two valve and pushrods coming from its original 60's design is remarkable what Piaggio has achieved given the pollution requirements nowadays, almost 100cv/lt, without an oil cooler. Even BMW and HD have evolved to some sort of liquid cooling for the heads to meet emission requirements while delivering the power people expect nowadays. I guess in that process MG have lost some of the grunt at low rpm it was famous for. Thanks again for the review.

I own several motorcycles, I’ve down sized my bike in CCs and weight due to my age. I want something that I can still pick up if I drop it. I went into the dealership looking at a BMW R-NINE-T and drove off owning a Moto Guzzi V85TT , The Guzzi was loaded with the boxes where as the BMW was stripped down. The over all cost out the door was less expensive too. The Guzzi is my long hauler while my smaller RE-Himalayan is my putter around town. I’m very impressed with the overall dual sport-ability of the Moto-Guzzi despite its larger size , From the Las Vegas area USA. Thank you for the review

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

A big plus you over looked (and it really only comes to bear when you own one long enough), the valves are easy to adjust. The heads are out in the open so removing the valve covers (and a rubber bung near the fly wheel) and there you are. Everything is right there. Lock nuts and screws - no shims. It's a half hour job if you take your time. Others are much faster. Still say it's not a retro! Otherwise I agree, dual clocks are always preferable. No comments on fuel mileage; did I miss them?

@stoicwarrior346

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, do you still own this type of bike?

@ronboe6325

2 жыл бұрын

@@stoicwarrior346 Nope

@stoicwarrior346

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronboe6325 I was curious about it's reliability.

I am looking to learn how to ride motorcycles and this is the one I am currently looking at. The other ones being the KLR 650 and the V-Strom. My dad is a motorcycle rider and he has always told me to start out with 250cc and I have found it hard to find a road bike with that "small" of an engine.

I like this kind of presentation more informative compared to when you ride the bike. Great negative and positive list.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you - glad you like it!

I like the looks of the bike with the paneers.

Great video and just as we have come to expect from yourself, very honest and subjective opinions of the bikes that are reviewed. I personally don’t like the look of the bike at all and that alone would stop me from buying or even test riding it. Is that wrong of me? Keep up the great work Andy. 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Not at all!

@ed.barker7069

4 жыл бұрын

I think if you showed one of these as a silhouette it has a similar look to the Royal Enfield Himalayan. Another Bike that divides opinion on the looks front.

From this camera angle ,the panniers look massive!

Moto Guzzi V 85 TT Speciale Thank you for your great reviews TMF! After one week with our first Guzzi, which we bought second-hand with 11.210km: - gas handle - very hard to turn & short way to go too - anybody experienced? solutions except cruise control? We both get cramps & calluses! - not for people, how like to ride on their toes with a pillion - Above 85 km/h hurricane in our Schuberth C3´s. (Windshield upright) No puig available, we will try the Givi AF8203 sliding wind-screen. Any experiences? +/- no flying carpet but sporty chassis - have to check if fork can be softened. Lower seat is fine. Excellent seating & standing-position, handlebar 10cm wider than GSA. (we are 174 & 178cm tall) (GSA: Telelever & Paralever with ESA = flying carpet) -/+ spending a lot of time changing gears, because you want to change to the next gear with 2.500 U/min! Going up Iselsberg (Lienz) in the 6th!, turns in the 3rd!!! + The Boxer--engineers could get MG (Aprilia???) to build one for the GS! It´s so smooth! (compared to my 2014 R1200GSALC) But definitely reduce the gears when overtaking, because you can expect some people excellerating. - Petrol-gauge, Cruise control light blinking when activated: no comment * Lack of power? In the lower revs more grunt than my boxer. It is sporty, but no race-bike. Don´t use the frontbrake together with the enormous steering-angle. +/ It comes with no tools! (1 piece 5mm allen key for the screen) + Excellent feel, emotion, grunt, vibration, brakes, power, petrol consumption in the alps: 3l / 100 km, 4 with pillion

@luckylook83

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for those pointers. Have the same helmet, is the windshield like the one on the Travel? So not for shorter leg people with a pillion, hard to balance on one foot? No basic tools? How do you adjust preload at the rear?

Hi TMF, loved your reviews for a while now, best out there. I waited for about a year on the V85, got a test ride around June last year. I was a bit deflated, I'm about 6 feet tall with an inside leg of 31"and I found I was on the balls of my feet, with no seat height adjustment that was one negative, I found the bike a bit sluggish and, as you say, had to do a fair bit of dialling up the right gear, lot of wind noise and buffeting (large screen fitted), the gear change indicator was buggy (as you mentioned). I still wanted one--not the McDonalds, but in solid red it looks much better. The thing is, straight after the V85 test ride, the salesman gave me a go on a Honda VFR800X Crossrunner, it was two months old and had all the luggage, for 2 grand less than the Guzzi. I loved the Honda from the start and ended up buying it. I didn't want Japanese, not multi cylinder and it had to have shaft drive!! Have I made a huge mistake? How do the two bikes compare?

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

No you didn’t make a mistake...

My Stelvio is even more comfy, has more torque and power, but it's quite big and heavy. Still I prefer mine. Both are a blast to ride. Hope you get to try one one day.

I test rode one about 3 months ago and loved it. Though I appreciate your review, for a test ride can only give a limited idea of a bike. My question is between the MG V85 and the KTM 790 Adventure R, which in your opinion is a better choice ? I have not had the opportunity to test ride a KTM 790 Adventure R (KTM Dealers in my area of the USA are stingy in that they do not like allowing test rides, go figure ). I have a 2016 MG V7 II and love that bike for what it is (no problems since I have owned it in the last 3 years). The major thing I like between the MG and KTM is that MG has a Shaft Drive versus chain drive of the KTM. The shaft drive maintenance is never (except for regular oil changes) where a chain drive requires much more regular maintenance (cleaning, adjustment, ect ...). Price wise I do not think there is much difference between the two over all. But I have read that the KTM is a more nimble better handling and powerful bike ? Comfort for long trips ? And that the KTM is better off road. But I doubt I would go off road often if ever haha. So in closing I respect your opinion(s) so I would truly appreciate yours in this regard. Though in the end I will most likely make my choice not with my head but my passion or w/e, haha *I also own a 2015 Harley Super Low 1200T which I use for a cruiser and love that bike as well for what it is. My HD had a belt drive versus a chain drive ...

I look ahead when riding, not the gear indicator. It's in the feel...over all thumbs up vlog 👍

Can't beat an Ivico Daily.... at least when on double whites anyhows! :D I am really glad you kinda liked the V85TT, I bloomin love my V7! :-)

The Yellow-red-White looks like Scrooge McDuck. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Good review 👍 Tmf. I prefer the Tft screen and don't like the front of bike but the rest is great .thanks from danny

Hold on to your hat! Saw one of these today in Middleton in Teesdale! Same colour, same spec I think! So, there is at least one more on the road!!

The 850 MG is a machine thats been around for a very longtime........in the 70's we had the 850T, 850 Le Mans and 1000 California..........big Vtwins, first engineered in the '60s are what they are:)

@mikefry6765

4 жыл бұрын

Malcolm Bennett the older 850s were big blocks this is based on the small block

37deg C is a frigging hot day in sydney, we wear it but we don't like it either! Re the Guzzi, i'd like it a lot more if it had tubeless spoked wheels like BMW have had for thirty years.

Love it. For 2021 is comes in “Nero Edna” black 🤤🤤

Great review yes 29 is a little bit warm but I guess we are used to it in Australia. I find over 35 is when the wind is just HOT and not fun to ride .

@mickeypopa

4 жыл бұрын

That's when you put your gear on as if it were cold. You might find this surprising, but leather is equally protective when it's either cold or hot (because it doesn't let any air through). So if you can bear a bit of sweat underneath, a leather jacket will protect you from the heat in the summer, particularly on those days when it's so hot that it's like you have a big hair dryer pointed at you. Riding in your T-shirt on those days to "cool off" is actually very deceptive because you think the wind is cooling you when in fact it's heating your body and causing you to sweat even more. So at anything above 36 degrees Celsius (i.e. body temperature), you should wear a leather jacket.

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449

4 жыл бұрын

MackP not for me I dislike leather “ sweetie when it’s hot 🥵 smells when wet and heavy, in heat I generally sock my T shirt in cooled water and put breathable jacket on over the top - acts like a air conditioner

I really enjoyed this video and like the bike but remember when we counted in our head what gear we were in. It seems like most electronics make us a bit lazy. Some are good safety items but most I could do with out and I'd take dials over TFT displays on any bike including my KTM 1290 SAR.

@TheMissendenFlyer

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree.....