Been waiting for you comments on this one for a while so thanks. I got my V7 850 (a Black Stone one like you tested) in June last year have clocked up 18K miles on him now. Totally agree with comments about the suspension, which is a vast improvement on the previous V7s. but still could be better The switch gear is fine except for the DRL/dip/main switch I find it easy to go from main back down to DRL and by pass dip beam. Not a problem unless you ride a lot at night. The gearbox eases up after 3 or 4k, but is never snickable and I wouldnt try clutchless changes on it. Handling is fab. I love the head light and the instrument console (but I am a bit of an outlier there). The fuel tank can easily give you a 300 mile range. The sidestand on the bike you rode needs greasing, I have to do mine regularly. The engine is a peach and where I would be gearing down to 3rd for over takes on a my V7III, 4th 5th is more than adequate on the 850. Ive added a Givi screen and H&B luggage and that mkes the bike a very capable tourer. The longest single day ride was 525miles.from Argyllshire down to the very bottom of South Wales. The seat is fine but if you ride for 4 hours straight your bum will complain. Im a shorty arse at 5'6" with 29" leg have no problem flat footing this bike. Its easy to push around (way easier than the 96 Guzzi Nevada I have which is lighter). I found its definitely easier to move than a Triumph Speedtwin that I had to move for a friend Problems I have had have been few. I got an engine check light on at 13K the dealer reset this. The ECL was caused by a misfire and a incorrect O2 sensor reading. ECL light hasnt come on since. The other was the rear brake caliper. Sadly the rear calipers arent lovely opposed piston Brembos but 2 piston single side sliding calipers. The cailper is placed in pssibley the worst position ever at the bottom of the disk where all the crudde gathers. I need to change my rear pads at 16K but couldnt as one of the retaining pins was siezed solid (it doesnt help that they are also made with thread retainer). Gave the caliper to a machine shop and they had a go at removing the pin. Their estimate labort cost was about the same price as a new caliper. So I fitted a new caliper after carefully taking the pad retaining pins out and making sure they are well greased. I'll now make sure I regularly clean the rear caliper and regrease the pins. I use my bike almost daily, for a 40 mile commute and long fun runs at weekend. It works great as a commuter, tourer or just a good fun bike. Having also ridden the bike in winter and got it covered in salty road crud (making) sure it was covered with ACF50/XCP) it has stood up remarkably well. Better than I expected to be honest.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the real world feedback, appreciate you taking the time to comment - all the best, Andy.

@MarkHSPR

Жыл бұрын

Apparently the engine check light has been a known problem for years! And for a number of people it just keeps on coming back, which I really don’t think I could handle. I love everything about the bike though and I’m a shorty like you. I know that I’m either going to get this or the street twin (V7 is more expensive here in Australia) but that eco is pushing me towards the triumph! Guess I’ll ride them back to back before I decide.

The lack of a fuel gauge will require the technique we used when most bikes didn’t have one, resetting the trip meter when you fill up. You will then get to know roughly how many miles you have left before you need to refuel. Failing that it’s the old trick of opening the fuel cap and shaking the bike to see how much is sloshing about? Always fancied a Moto Guzzi, loved the old airhead BMW’s for the torque reaction and vibration.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Yup!

@andyaptc2907

Жыл бұрын

Maybe got a reserve tank switch ?

@stevec6427

Жыл бұрын

The same technique I have to use with my 2012 Bonneville. The trip meter becomes the fuel gauge

@splodge5714

Жыл бұрын

Been resetting the trip when I fill up for 50 years. Far more accurate than most fuel gauges.

@SteveInskip

Жыл бұрын

Have a look on KZread for ‘Leo Wanker Moto Jump’ for the correct way to do it! 😉👍 (from the Paul Hogan Show in the ‘80’s)

Got the 2021 V7 as my first bike passing my test last September. Put 6000 miles on it with no issues. Regularly get 250 miles on a tank with miles left. I wanted a bike that felt like something my dad would have ridden before they become too sanitised or all electric and I love it! Great review, cheers 🍻

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

@bikerbeliever8169

Жыл бұрын

Yeah got same bike 6000 plus miles, great Characterful bike. Motor is a charm, handles good, turns in effortlessly.

@paulgray3013

Жыл бұрын

@@bikerbeliever8169 yeah I watched your channel, and reviews when researching the v7 😊

@Conrad1867

Жыл бұрын

Love this part: " I wanted a bike that felt like something my dad would have ridden before they become too sanitised or all electric and I love it!"

@paulgray3013

Жыл бұрын

@@Conrad1867 thank you sir 🙏

Absolutely loved the V7 special after I took one for a test ride. Comfortable, characterful, easy to ride, and low maintenance. My current fleet has a Ducati Streetfighter 848, 848 EVO and a 996 (just for reference to what I’m used to) and found power on the Guzzi surprisingly sufficient. It’s a wonderful ‘clear your head’ kind of bike, and the first I’ve ridden in a long time that doesn’t urge you on to ride frantically. I can’t wait until the spring, when one gets to come home with me!

Had two Moto Guzzis, agree with the comments. The 850 is an improvement over the 750. Plus points; very easy to work on and customise. No chain maintenance. Build quality excellent, under rated, significantly better than other well known brands I've owned. Surprisingly sure footed at speed on Motorways and A roads. The only real minus point is the suspension which needs upgrading to deal with some rough unclassified back roads luckily a cheap fix. As long as Moto Guzzis are kept clean and regularly serviced they will provide many rewarding years and mileage of fun and reliable and economical motoring at very reasonable cost, now thinking of my third, question is which one!

@youtubeaccount9058

Жыл бұрын

what suspension upgrades would you recommend?

@user-hf6ok2tj5h

7 ай бұрын

For me, the biggest plus point of Moto Guzzi is their well-proven shaft drive. Been looking to replace my Indian Scout 60 which has no/low maintenance belt drive. For me, chain drive is making the case against Royal Enfield and Triumph.

@hughphillips1427

7 ай бұрын

@@youtubeaccount9058I am sure Hagon shocks would be a good upgrade. They can make depending on your weight.

@robertparisi8016

6 ай бұрын

@@user-hf6ok2tj5h use to be a avid shaft drive guy, but just remember a few things: chain is much lighter, less wear on rear tire, chain good for 20k, easy to replace or repair, new chains are not loud or need lubrication as much, yes , u have to buy chain lube and rags, and adjusting needs a jack or centerstands, and rear wheel gets dirty more often but I am not that anti chain guy any longer, they also have a quicker response and your not going to get shaft up and down jolts in corners. I guess a goldwing or bmw 1600rt would not be appropriate with a chain lol

As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 500. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle

Bought one new this year, and I absolutely love it. So light, loads of torque, sips fuel, looks gorgeous in matt black, very happy.

This is a truly unique machine. First introduced in 1967 it has steadily and continuously improved and evolved. This is arguably the most refined motorcycle in the world. Made by hand in the same factory since its introduction. Almost entirely made in Italy.

@simonlangmead7

2 ай бұрын

The twin came out in 1967.

@kevinnielsen1356

2 ай бұрын

@@simonlangmead7 Ooops, only a ten year typo mistake. Thanks, I corrected my post.

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 ай бұрын

I certainly wouldn’t call it refined!!

@kevinnielsen1356

2 ай бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer Depends upon how one defines refined.

You're missing the point of the transverse V twin. 1/ it reduces vibration 2/ it is the easiest of layout's to work on for adjusting the valves clearances. Two things here-this will save you a considerable amount of money when it comes to servicing the tappets if you have a go yourself & it will also save you a considerable amount of time. 3/ The other benefit in cooler climates is that the cylinder heads offer your legs protection of sorts. Gearbox-so you obviously haven't ridden many shaft drive bikes as this is very typical with a shaft drive bike. You need to be very precise with your gear changes and blip the throttle on the change down through the gears. That's not a fault but typical with a shaft drive machine. You soon get used to it. You didn't like the led style on the front of the light. Again you can't know much about MotoGuzzi as that is the Eagle insignia which belongs to guzzi. Clutch may feel heavy because it's not hydraulic like some bikes which again is more simplistic but less to go wrong. Again you can go back to your comment that it is a simple bike, which it is-that's the way they've designed it for longevity & reliability as well as affordable servicing which you mentioned nothing about. 853 cc. Weight-depends if you've actually weighed it on a weigh bridge but I have with my MotoGuzzi Breava 750 with fuel/ oil & it was 200 kg wet. I also own a Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 cc single adventure bike & I put that on the same weigh bridge & it also come in at 200 kg wet weight. So I guess that would suggest that the Motoguzzi is quite a liteweight bike regardless of whether it has a shaft drive or not. Normal forks are an advantage in that they are less likely to pump fluid everywhere if the seal goes compared to upside down forks. The other bonus you failed to mention is the fork gators to protect your staunchion's and seals.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank, for adding a little bit of light to my review. All the best.

Another good review Andy, which is absolutely spot on as usual. The love for Guzzis is very much a subjective thing of course, which tends to creep up on you over time. I have the 850 Special and that V twin pulse combined with the 'characterful' gearbox, lets you know in no uncertain terms that you're piloting a piece of machinery. I think that's why Guzzis are often cited as good alternatives to older classic bikes. Most modern bikes are pretty slick and can adapt to the rider. With Guzzis the rider adapts to the bike, just like in the old days. It's all part of the fun! Anyway, that's enough fanboyism for now. ;)

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Yes I completely get that - thanks for watching and for stopping by!

@eulersusana9355

Жыл бұрын

i completely agree. i am a guzzista, myself. i have a 2019 v7 and a California touring 1400. if you like the character on the v7 imagine on a 1400cc. is unbelievable

The V7 reminds me a bit of the BMW boxers before they went "high-tech". Just a simple air-cooled twin with shaft drive.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Yes a similar sort of deal for sure!

Thanks for another great review, used to ride an MG Centauro, the pre-Griso, remapped by Raceco , bike was brilliant, pulled like a train, happy days. Being an Amersham lad enjoy your reviews so much more knowing your roads. Thanks

My curiosity finally got the better of me, and I managed to pause the video sufficiently to read your disclaimer. Nice to know that I have "impressive pausing skills." 😉 Cheers, Andy!

Excellent review of a cracking bike..You make some very valid points…picked one of these up last week and absolutely love it…I am a guzzi fan boy in fairness 😎

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your new bike!

Great review, opened my eyes to this bike enough to go and get a demo. Never had a bike with a fuel gauge and 200kgs for a shafty sounds fine!

I loved my V7 when I had it. Very basic, but all the better for it. Even at 198kg dry it’s still a lot lighter than a Bonneville (and carries it’s weight lower). I also loved the fact it had a shaft drive and massive fuel tank / frugal engine. Did some big tours round Scotland on mine in total comfort (although I did upgrade the suspension as it is cheap / harsh). Main thing is its’s something different, with a lot of character . Another great review 👍

@timothybrockbank7474

Жыл бұрын

What suspension upgrade did you do

@georgemills2302

Жыл бұрын

@@timothybrockbank7474 Hagon progressive springs in the forks, Hagon fully adjustable rear shocks.

@normanbuild

10 ай бұрын

It's seems almost obligatory to have to upgrade suspension nowadays. I have a triumph speedmaster which was transformed but the same hagon treatment. Great guys to deal with as well

Another great review, TMF! I have a 2019 V7 Stone and love it. I really prefer the old style analog gauge on it over the new digital one, although I really miss a tachometer! I agree that the suspension, err, "leaves a lot to be desired" - easy (if pricey) to upgrade. As to your sidestand complaint, I had the same trouble, easily remedied with a squirt of grease. One more thing about the 2019 is my led headlight is way nicer than the new one! So despite much less power I like the previous model over the new V7.

I have the 2019 VIII Racer (the 750cc engine, with the Ohlins rear shocks). Absolutely love it. Such nice details, I step into the storage just to look at it for a few minutes. Only 52hp (only Racer in name), so no rocket-type launches and top speed, but I don't care for that. It indeed feels light and flickable in corners, suspension is a bit soft, love the vibes and character of that twin rumble and the accompanying gear whine. Almost a sort of Italian Harley regarding the old and sturdy technology (still using push rods!). Only added bit is a nice Agostini exhaust to make her sing :) I'll never sell this one.

Good review, congratulation!👍 ..I’m seriously thinking to move from my actual Bmw F800R to the MG V7 stone. I’ve testet this motorbike 2 months ago and she gave me a very good impression: the beauty of the originality and essentiality. I’m Italian and I’m proud of Moto Guzzi, even if I’m discovering Moto Guzzi just at the age of 52… maybe the age of maturity 😉

Nice review! Love my 750cc V7 III. One thing you didn’t mention is that these are still built in the original factory in Italy, so you’re buying into history and supporting European manufacturing and jobs.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Yes good point Duncan, thanks for watching!

Finally, you've done a review on the V7! I've liked these bikes for a while. I wanted one as a second bike (main one is a big old GS). Wife wouldn't let me buy a new one.....so I got an old Breva 750. Turns out, it's pretty much the same and only cost 3 grand! It's a hoot to ride, has a clunky gearbox and the rocky roll vibe and a really comfy seat....can go a decent distance in comfort. So, if your viewers fancy a wee delve into Guzzi, then an old Breva might be worth a look😁😁

Your pronunciation was spot on.. PERFECT 💪🏆. Great video. I love those bikes

If Steve McQueen in the Great Escape can check the fuel by looking in the tank and shaking the bike its good enough for you!

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

True!

A proper motorcycle; especially in the Special trim (which I've seen in person - oh my!). The Special offers up two qualities I really like: better colour and two clocks. I agree with you, much better than the spec sheet would lead you to believe. I also like the ability to adjust the valves (had a Griso and a Quota, valve adjustment is very easy).

I enjoy how you're not afraid to give your personal, subjective opinions; too many reviews focus on data sheets, and seem hesitant to just say, "I like/don't like this/that about this bike."

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Glad you think that - appreciated!

Great review Andy and that Guzzi is a very good looking bike! Awesome! I’d probably have one of these over an Enfield if I was looking for a classic.

I have a soft spot for Moto Guzzi’s. The only one I’ve ridden was a Norge, which I quite enjoyed. It had the the ability to shed 200lbs when dropping it into a corner. The engine reminded me of a small block V-8 from the sixty’s. Great experience.

@petercody7649

Жыл бұрын

Bob, I have had a Guzzi Norge for 12 years (no issues), I absolutely love it. It's all the bike I need. Good for a fun ride out. I have thrown luggage at it and toured (what it's designed for). I have also had it over to the Isle of Man TT twice and opened it up over the mountain. There's a lot of bikes I like, but not at the expense of having to part with the Norge

@lauriebloggs8391

Жыл бұрын

@@petercody7649 Me too, for 11 years, until written off in crash for cash thingy. Couldn't agree more.................

@jurgentreue1200

10 ай бұрын

Small block V8 is an excellent description of a Moto Guzzi. I've owned a couple of Moto Guzzi Le Mans, a 1984 Mk III and a 1990 MkV. When describing the engine to a non motorcyclist, I'd tell them the engine is like sawing off two cylinders off a V8. The way Moto Guzzis, especially the Le Mans, develop their power is addictive. My Le Mans MkV would develop maximin torque at 6000rpm. That's 180kph in top gear, and it will still be pulling like a 16 year old. At 6000rpm, the bike could burst through brick walls. Cruising speed anywhere between 150kph and 180kph, if allowed. Not bad for a pretty agricultural 1000cc (948 actually) air cooled V twin with carburetors.

I have this exact spec bike in this colour. It is, by far, the nicest bike I’ve ever had to own and ride. I like the matt black, it’s easier to look after and you’re not constantly worrying about scratching paintwork. For a new rider, it’s so incredibly forgiving with its low-down weight, smooth clutch and gearbox (mine is, anyway) and comfort on occasional longer trips. There is a way around the fuel gauge issue. There are two trip meters. Set one for your fuel capacity at the filling station, the other for your journey. And even when you get the dreaded amber light come on a THIRD trip automatically starts, telling you how many miles you’ve covered since. I think that’s as good as a fuel ‘gauge’. The huge 21 litre capacity helps on the anxiety front, too.

Spot on review! I had a V7 before buying a V85 TT. And all the remarks you made: suspension, side stand (rusty prostetic leg effect) are true. The reason I switched is that the V85 TT is way more comortable for me (1m84) for long voyages. Take care over there in the UK! Greets from Belgium

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Steven and thanks for the feedback!

@ToolkiT73UK

Жыл бұрын

Agree 6ft/1.83m is about the tallest I would recommend on a V7, if you are taller get the V85TT

@tomaskral4685

Жыл бұрын

@@ToolkiT73UK That's not true. I'm quite finicky when it comes to creature comforts. I'm 195 cm tall(6'4) and this bike feels perfect. It might look a bit small for me perhaps, but I never feel any pain coming home from a long trip. Very neutral sitting position, great seat. As for riding with a passenger - that's another story. Just not comfortable. I mean for the passenger..

Nice one Andy. As a Guzzi fan (and the owner of a 1980 850 LeMans 2) this video resonated with me. Great to see this fantastic marque represented in your road test content.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Dave!

HAHA the gearbox that's a Guzzi. Dry Clutch...clunk clunk clunk. Absolutely love my V9 Bobber. These bikes have been handmade in the same factory for 100 years.

Detailed review. Rode the Special version and the bike felt well made. Agree about the gearbox, the fuel gauge and the side stand... can check my work. p.s. You got my like here. Just keep up.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Good review, I’m thinking about one. Back in the day, a transverse mounted engine meant that the crankshaft ran across the bike, making this engine mounted ‘in line’. Keep up the good work.

@farmer_donny

11 ай бұрын

I agree, in line is in line with the frame, transverse is across the frame.

Good to see you out on a Moto Guzzi. I've loved these bikes for years and like them even more now they come with the 850cc engine. I'd definitely go for the speciale Version, which looks so much better (and has the traditional twin dials). Difficult choice between the Guzzi and a T100 Bonneville, the Triumph is probably the better all round package, although the Guzzi might win with its exclusivity and convenience of shaft drive.

@garmit61

Жыл бұрын

The Guzzi will still be going when the trumpet falls apart.

Nice review TMF, that’s a nice bike. I’ve just bought Stone 111 Le Man replica 2019 model, so 744cc 52 hp and have to say it flys and absolutely love the vibes, rocking, noise etc. I tried that exact model before buying as I hadn’t ridden a moto guzzi before and it’s a lovely bike. Ps I’m loving your Segura jacket and gloves looks really cool. Cheers👍🏻🇮🇹

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mike, got to look right on the bike!

Another interesting review TMF - I have to say that I agree with you 100% with respect to the Special edition in blue. In my opinion the blue with chrome details and silver rims really suit the bike and let you see the styling details, whereas the all black model reminds me of prototype bikes where they're trying to disguise the detailing prior to launch. I rode a Guzzi 1200 Sport from Denver CO to the west coast back in 2016 and have to say I really enjoyed the bike and ride so can see that this bike (albeit in blue) could offer a similar experience. I'd love to see you ride/review a Triumph Scrambler 900 as I love the look of that bike and it must be in the same class I suppose (retro styled, mid sized, ~64bhp roadster)🤔. Keep up the good work, I know that you recently said you were going to do fewer bike reviews but please don't stop altogether as I do look forward to watching them😉👍👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Don’t worry I won’t!

I have had Moto Guzzi bikes for 30 Years and love them. The best place to ride them is between 4000 - 5500 RPM they sing in that zone in 3, 4, 5th mine are all 5 speed nothing fancy here. The single Brembo brake on the V7 is fine especially with the wonderful engine braking available to you. I put on some free breathing exhaust system on my 2012 V7 and it sounds awesome. Agree about the instrument pod. Not a fan, the classic has the twin analogue much more suited to the style. My 2012 V7 stone has the twin clocks they changed to single a few years back to keep young people interested I think. Thanks for the review.

Nice review 👍. I like the look of the bike. Really liked the special you flashed briefly on the screen. But even so. I prefer my interceptor. I agree with you regarding fuel gauge. It would be a deal breaker for me. I already suffer from fuel anxiety on trips.

Great to see you review the V7. Have to say that of all the bikes I've owned over my 15 years of riding, my Thruxton R and Tiger 800 were the least reliable, had the most recalls and niggles of them all. The Thruxton also showed signs of corrosion after just three months of dry summer riding. I've owned Harleys, a Guzzi 1200 Sport 4v, and now have a RE Classic 500. The V7 Special might be a future purchase. I fancied a Bonnie but part experience of Triumph and the mad prices have put me off. Hoping you get the test the V100 Mandello soon.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

I have put a word in too - I like the look of that!

A pair of 'Mistral' pipes sound amazing on this machine. Thankyou for the video.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Timely video. Thanks Andy. I've spent a good part of the summer hemming and hawing over getting a V7 Special, especially now with end of summer deals on. I love the look, comfort and character. Not entirely sure how well they hold up over time, or long term parts support.

Great review - lovely bike…sounded like the seating position might be a little like an R9T…do like the shaft drive…..bring the bloopers back at the end….thanks for the content always great!!!

I have a V7 iii, really enjoy mine. Lucky to have a few bikes and my V7 is the only bike I look back at when walking away and think “what a great looking bike”.

101 years of history. There have been a lot of good bikes over the years

Nice review, I am yet to ride the newer V7 bikes, but very much love my 2012 V7i which I have had from new.... which is a fun bike on trackdays and has embarrassed a few sportsbikes it had no business bothering! 😀

Thanks TMF for the straight-up review. I've been agonising between the V70 and Triumph T120 for too long. Having read all the great comments, and for a combined price equivalent to the T120, I finally decided on the charactertul Guzzi - PLUS a Royal Enfield 350 Classic for when the V70 is in the shop!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 ай бұрын

Good solution! Enjoy....

I came across my first Moto Guzzi back in 2013 while searching the used classifieds. I was a 2010 V7 Cafe classic 750 in Legano Green. I traded it for a 2018 V7III Carbon Dark which is now heavily modified/customized. This summer I added a V85TT Guardia D'onore. Love them.

Hi! Another fantastic review. Like many here I´m also a Guzzi fanboy. Owned a Guzzi Griso 8v that I had to sell. It was the most beautiful bike I ever had and I do not now many prettier thatn that (specially the Griso 8v SE navy green on a black frame). I rode a few guzzis over the years - the Norge, Sport 1200, V85 tt, the previous V7 (with a smaller engine) and earlier this year I got to ride this bike. It is a beautiful machine and while it's true that you have to live with those vibrations they are something that I welcome personally. Regarding the styling of the bike, I don't like the headlight and the dial on this one. I sat on the special in blue and it is glorious. Twin dials like a retro bike must have and a simple headlight, plus the chromes, spoke wheels and it all comes together as a very good machine. Regarding the suspension I understand that it isn't the gratest but it leaves room to personalize the bike, just like your R Enfield. Looking forward to watch yout next video. Cheers

I love that seat shape, not sure how to describe it but it fits the lines of the bike really well.

The rock and roll from a Guzzi prop is a thing of beauty :-)

I fell in love with the looks of this before I'd even seen it and test rode this very bike at Wheels back in June! Like you I couldn't warm to the gear box and unfortunately was a deal breaker for me.

Fantastic, sensible practical, economical, reliable bike. Looks great blacked out.

Great review as always. I recon this has got to be one of the nicest looking bikes around. I’d love one. Either stone or special.

Riding VMax 1200 and 1700, I love this bike, looks really good. Simple, maybe. But it has all a nice bike needs. Thumbs up

Good job. I’ve got a 2020 viii Racer. I replaced the stock exhaust so I could hear a little rumble which also blocks out the whining of the engine!! You were spot on with your thoughts on the MG. I love this bike for all the reasons you said. I like the Triumph line but here in the States they are 4 grand more so a little too much for me. Thanks again!

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

Nice review buddy. It’s a bike we really like…but…you’ll see on Thursday. 👍🏼

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Look forward to hearing your opinion on the bike too!

Honestly, I don't have much interest in this bike, BUT I'm super excited about the Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello, it looks amazing!😁 Another great review though Andy!

As an owner I’d like to point out that this is not a retro bike. Moto Guzzi has been building the V7 with very little changes since 1976; the frame for example is still the same. It’s a classic.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough - “very old design” bike then!

@dave6467

Жыл бұрын

Lino Tonti was a genius.

@williamrae9954

Жыл бұрын

Great thing about that,a ton of accessories ready to fit!

Hi, nice review 😎! Since Nov’20 I own a Guzzi V7 III, so the previous model. I have to say, it is very special and it always makes me a big smile at my face. The naked Guzzi got something very particular and it is hard to explain. Maybe I just love the way and the character of it. I am nowadays got 25t km and I start to think about a petrol station when I reach 450km (petrol warning light starts flashing at about 350km). However, one I run it empty (in purpose and out of curiosity) and the machine runs empty at 520km !!!! That is quite cool I think. I assume the actual V7 got similar fuel consumption. Therefore a fuel gauge is not really necessary for this bike 🏍. Cheers and … try to ride the Speciale!! Hehehehe

Thanks for the review! As a moto guzzi fan and owner ( I own a V7 850 special in grey) I can say you have to ride in a guzzi for 10.000 km for it to teally "losen up". After a while the gearbox the engineering snd suspension really "smooth out" and you end up with great bike to ride! Had to just tell you! Ciao ciao greetings from the Netherlands

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Greetings!

Fantastic review Andy,and to be honest a lot of bike for the money I spent just under £10k on my 2015 ZZR1400 Performance Sport! Agree with you about the fuel gague,not hard is it for manufacturers to fit one nowadays.

Always like your videos. Thank you ! I started researching this bike as I was amazed by it's look and production. Nothing mentioned here that it's Air Cool ? for us in Hot weather might be a big issue.

I’ve got a 2016 V7 Stone II. I bought it because I wanted retro, and having ridden an Interceptor, and whilst arranging a ride on a Bonneville, saw one of these in the showroom. I rode it, and fell in love with it. The Guzzi wobble you mentioned is a bit of a marmite feature, but to me it’s part of the character. You must have found one of the few Guzzis that has a neutral installed, but my gearbox clicks quite precisely, not spongy at all. Neutral is there, but elusive. The stands are stiff despite everything I’ve done to mine and the clutch is heavier than comparable bikes, but I only find this an issue in heavy traffic. You might enjoy the looks of the older version more - it has twin analogue dials (but alas still no fuel gauge), and a standard headlamp, plus all the chrome of the special, albeit the power output is lower. But the low end torque is fantastic, and I don’t tear about like a hooligan anyway😉. For me, the bike is summed up by one of your quotes - it makes you feel special. And the exclusivity always makes it an instant tourist attraction when parked up. Bikes are intensely personal, so everyone has their own opinion, but I’m slightly disappointed you didn’t like the V7 more.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Sorry Jonathan, can’t love them all!

@hugodacosta

Жыл бұрын

I had the V7II Stone, and now I have the V7 850. The clutch in this new model has nothing to do with the V7II. It is very, very smooth.

New word for the day….”E-Lek-Trickery”, 🤣…brilliant. I don’t know why but that bike is stunningly tough looking to me. I flipping love the look of it. A few marks against it, yet she made my head turn. Great review as ever, thanks Andy.

Nice look Andy, thanks. I’ve spent some time on a 20 model, great little city or B road machine but stay off the motorways, the vibes will drive you nuts. 👍

Enjoyable honest review. Thanks

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great review, a pleasure to watch. Thanks again, all very useful information. 👍👍.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for the kind words…

Cheers TMF, cold & windy afternoon here in Tasmania so your vid was well received.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Summer is on its way Russell!

Very good review. As I approach my 7th decade on this planet, the current iteration of the V7 appeals to me in a way I haven't felt since I bought my first new bike, a '78 Yamaha XS750. And as I recall, it was a quite characterful and quirky ride too. I would go with the Special though, with the chrome bits, dual gauges, spoke wheels and gloss paint.

At 200Kg, I wouldn't consider it heavy for a shaft drive 850, it's around the same weight as the Interceptor and slightly lighter than the Bonneville

Another fantastic review. I am a longtime Guzzi owner, having owned several in the past and currently owning a vintage LeMans. I recently purchased a new V7 (850) Special with the proper dual gauges . Forget the hp numbers, this bike is more fun to ride than some motorcycles with double the power output. I agree that the bike could use a fuel gauge, but it’s worth noting it has a large tank (I get over 200 miles before the low fuel light comes on). I have put a Dart fly screen on mine and intend on putting a cartridge kit in the front forks and a set of mufflers on it. Otherwise, the bike is perfect for what it is.

Nice review as usual flyer, I have a v85tt which I love but also like the v7. Grew up without fuel gauges on bikes and I still don’t trust them, always reset the trip meter every fill up. People I know with v7s have all changed rear suspension, look forward to next post.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for stopping by!

Love your reviews!

Great Bike I have 2012 v7 stone I also have a Triumph T120 I find the v7 easier to ride some times depends what mood I am in . Great review .

Got tired of waiting for the V100 Mandello so I bought a Multistrada V2S, love it but may be tempted next time. Guzzis have loads of character, look lovely and are well made. Tempted by a V7 as a second bike…

Thanks for the great review Andy. You mentioned that you didn’t like the torque reaction due to the shaft drive. Don’t you get a similar rock and roll on your BMW GS ?

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

No - with the liquid cooled model (post 2013) that’s way less noticeable - I hate it on the older bikes and the RnineT too!

A lot of my early stuff had no fuel gauge Andy ( riding bikes since 1978) just whip the fuel cap off and rock the bike 🤭 I like the look of the bike always fancied a Guzzi nice review mate very fair 👍👍👍

@williamrae9954

Жыл бұрын

Czech company, electronic experts,LSK make fuel gauges that go by the weight of the petrol, far more accurate than a float!

Such a nice bike! Thank you mr Flyer!

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching John!

If I could afford more than one bike at a time, I would absolutely have a guzzi. Their handling always suprises me in a good way. There is just nothing else like them and as time goes on, I am more attracted to the simplicity of them even more. Just a little underpowered for my taste as a primary bike.

@scottcalhoun5524

10 ай бұрын

How much more power do you really need?

I love how the italian brands think of budget, not so powerfull and a little bit of an old school bikes. When you are chosing your bike you are choosing part of your reflection as a character so I really like the concept behind V7. There have to be a bike for everyone.

A single front brake disk should never become an issue on this type of bike. It is possible to have plenty of stopping power via one disk. Dual disks exist mostly to improve heat dispersion so as to reduce brake fade when a bike is being ridden fast and hard round bends.

My Bandit has a fuel gauge but when it’s getting to,(two of the five bars) I use the trip gauge. Something I’ve always done since my first bike at 16,(1985,now I feel old)🤣. Great review as always Andy.👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Barry, always good to have you along.

I like it ! Great review Andy.

Wanted to see a review on this for ages. Love the look of them but to me they are a direct competitor to the Ducati Scrambler and I think that was its mission . The clock for instance is very scrambler like. Great review.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Simon - appreciated

I own a V7 850 Special and covered 3000 miles. Owned quite a few mid capacity bikes before. The V7 puts a grin on my face like no other bike did before.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear!

That "Special" edition in the blue with chrome is very sharp looking!

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s a thing of beauty isn’t it!

I've had my '22 Stone for nearly four months and have put 2600 miles on it. I absolutely love it and look for any opportunity to ride it. It's a wonderful counterpoint to my very fast and very smooth Concours which I also love. Most reviewers seem to prefer the Classic, and yes it is a great looking bike. But I chose the Stone over the Classic because it runs tubeless tires and it's matte finish makes it a breeze to wash. Mine is the "Arancione Rame" (orange) color which I liked best of all the V7 850s. And these bikes easily deliver 250+ miles on a tank of gas unless you have a really heavy throttle hand (which defeats the purpose of these bikes IMO). Only the Italians could make a 5.55 gallon tank look so svelte. One of my favorite things about these bikes and Guzzis in general is their rarity. In the short time I've had my Stone I've encountered hundreds of H-Ds but only one other Guzzi (a Stornello). It's really fun to ride something that's both modestly priced - and a great value IMO - yet more distinctive than bikes that cost 4 times as much.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Nice one - there' something tobe said for having something a little unusual too isn't there....

When I was on the search for a new bike, my heart was really set on a Guzzi. They’re so damn beautiful, and all I hear about is how unique they are to ride. In my opinion, I think they’re at the top when it comes to how beautiful a bike is. However, the two dealers near me refuse to offer test rides. I ended up getting a t120 which I’m really happy with. I hope to try a Guzzi someday and have one next to my Triumph.

@PhilipBallGarry

Жыл бұрын

And you really need a test ride. The one we tried before signing for the T100 had all sorts of issues. Lying neutral indicator, misfire at low throttle and meaningless random info on the display. The dealer was very good and promised to sort out the issues. True to his word, he rang the next day to say they'd replaced both HT leads which had cured the running issue (apparently, internal arcing was causing all the electronic gremlins) and he offered us another go. Sadly, we'd already decided to buy the T100 so they lost our sale. But there was a lot to like about the Guzzi, especially the character of that motor.

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Crazy not allowing test rides, and dealers wonder why they can’t shift bikes!

Very nice video as always. Last year i bought one and although it is difrent, i love it.

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

I loved my blue 2017 V7 iii special. Every time I stopped some place everyone wanted to know what it was and thought she was beautiful.

I have to question whether this or any Moto Guzzi is actually 'Retro' in design ? It just looks like a Guzzi to me. A fair and honest review as always Sir!

It's certainly a good looker; the tank looks perfectly positioned over that pretty engine. I'm looking to upgrade my Int650, and it's between this and the street twin I think.

Nice perspective mate, and fair review!

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

What I see on this motorcycle is a worry free / no maintenance bike that you can ride all day long. The Bonneville i like more, but that chain and the tube in the wheels is just a hassle. Off course you can put a belt drive conversion and use some kind of sealant for in the rims to convert them in tubeless, but ... look at this Guzzi ! They managed all of that straight of the box. Bravo! Well done

THANK YOU for this review. I have been looking for a daily commuter that has shaft drive, but did not want to spend RNine money to get one. Just tired of chain maintenance every other weekend. I do believe this bike is in my immediate future...

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Yes perfect for that mission!

Never owned a Guzzi. But have Happy Memories of a Holiday at Lake Como & a Trip round the Moto Guzzi Factory Museum at Mandello

Nice review as usual TMF. I always fancied a Guzzi as I do like that big transverse V twin so some years ago I bought a used Griso 1200 8V in white. I loved it! Absolutely superb handling, bags of character, bottomless pit of power and torque, the best brakes (Brembo) I have ever had on a bike, and it had a Termignoni exhaust so it roared with the power 'on' and had a lovely crackle and pop (not backfire) on the over-run like a throttled-back RR Merlin. I loved it! BUT - it was an early 8V and it transpired they were likely to suffer cam failure. MG re-deigned the engine to have roller cams which I believe cured the problem, but they would not issue a recall for early bikes and only offered cam upgrades (parts only, not labour) if an early bike suffered cam failure, and then only if it had an up to date MG dealer service history. Actually, not a great help even if you qualified as the swarf from the failed cams would be all through the engine so it would require a complete engine re-build (not covered by MG). UK MG owners club took MG to court over it and had to concede because MG (Piaggio) could afford much better lawyers. I think Piaggio even argued that legally they were not responsible as they did not manufacture motorbikes! Owners cliub faced horrendous costs if they pursued it and lost so they had to drop it. I sold my bike at a loss to someone who had a tame MG mechanic who would do the cam upgrade for them, but I vowed never ever to buy anything from MG / Piaggio.

@lauriebloggs8391

Жыл бұрын

Pedants corner....its a longitudanal V twin, with the cylinders mounted tranversely...... I'll get my coat......

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Oh dear!

Excellent and fair review!!! Thankyou 😉😎

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Another great sensible review thanks TMF. Nice motorcycle but a little too niche for me. Engine configuration so reminds me of a Honda 650 Euro Sport I ran for many years back in late 80's. Just bought a Suzuki Gsx 1000F after your in depth review of one last year ! Thrilled to bits with it, even getting used to its weird looks......!!

@TheMissendenFlyer

Жыл бұрын

Yes I love the big Suzuki!

I like this bike. Not scortchingly fast but pleasant, nonetheless. Shaft drive and valve adjustment without pulling off the tank are a plus.