Thanks Travis! A great video on the performance of various motion sensors. This will help me pick out sensors for my smart home (and automations) applications.

@bill_automated1226

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Travis. Good insights as always. I have started using more zigbee sensors in HA. I do like using the Shelley motion sensors in my garage, they’re big big, but they last months.

Thank you so much for testing indoor vs outdoor hue sensors. When you made the first video I requested it and at the time I only had 1 outdoor sensor I used inside. Now I have 2 and the new indoor sensor. I just got them so can't speak to compare them much. The range and view on the outdoor is as you say, insane!

@TheSlimHim

2 жыл бұрын

Oh btw with the outdoor mount, I put a Velcro strap through it to make up for the lack of magnet.

@TheSlimHim

2 жыл бұрын

I can say however that they replaced two of my old zwave hsm200 which I loved the led and form factor but hated the high pitch noise they made. I couldn't put them in the same place obviously but didn't matter and it was a seamless replacement in terms of reacting. Actually better but I admit may be due to better placement.

I am still not sure (after watching so many of your videos) what I like the most: the content, your style or... your funny boy and they way you guys have fun together ;-)

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I do try to mix it up at times and things have evolved a little as do all things. He has a lot of fun doing things and of course the outros are fun that I try to include at the end of most videos. I appreciate it that others get some enjoyment and some knowledge out of things from my quirky way of videos!

You know I send you these selfishly to consume your content. Excellent video and spread the good word. We need more people to put devices to a real test rather than just saying "it's great". Excellent video Digi and love the subtle jokes with the kiddo.

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Stone sent me a screen shot of I might have missed on the annoying 3 min Ikea cool down. Will have to go look for it when I get home.

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

One test I forgot to mention! None of the sensors died from being dropped.

Great breakdown of the motion sensors. Anyone have any experience with the newer Lutron motion and occupancy sensors that are stand alone battery operated? I have not found any videos on them as of yet. They are not cheap, but are suppose to integrate to HA through the Lutron hub.

Thanks for all the hard work with the videos. Do you ever considering to do video with external converters for zigbee unsupported devices

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

That is a massive rabbit hole to go down to support new sensors but eventually I might. Still learning things myself on that side.

I would chime in that Linkind are great...at first. One year in, many are becoming problematic. I had/have 8 around my home in addition to numerous others in home assistant. They were rock solid for about a year with almost instant detection and flawless integration with z2m. Now that most are past a year old they aren't nearly as responsive (changed batteries in all of them and nothing changed), fall off the mesh all the time and have to be woken up manually, and 2 have to constantly be re-paired. Of the original 8, I only have 3 still functioning as intended and in place. 2 are "ok" in that they take longer to recognize motion than they used to, but function as secondary triggers in a group with other sensors in a room so not a big deal. The other 3 I have given up on and just in my junk box in my network room.

I'd be intersted whether the Aqara P1 motion sensor is still as bad with the Aqara hub or whether this is something in the zigbee2mqtt device profile that is off. It behaves like the motion sensitivity is adjusted to low. It's certainly not reacting to the advertised 7m distance for high.

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

That was my only thinking as well, it seems pretty bad for what it is. It did better than the Shelly though! HA! I don't have their hub to test it though. Messed with one before but putting Zigbee in the cloud was a pass for me.

Keep in mind you can get cr2 battery eliminator. This would let you hardwire it and not worry about battery life

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Very true! I have done this with some clocks that were battery only and next to a plug. But if you have mains power I wound opt for an ESP based solution.

Do you have any powered motion sensors to include in tests like this? Battery powered ones are obviously a lot more convenient but a big advantage of the powered ones is the lower timeout until they leave detected status. On that topic, I see you can modify the aqara sensors to lower this timeout. You have to open it up and do some soldering but I figure if anyone has tried this, it would be you! I'm curious on how easy to process is and how much it affects battery life.

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Some stated the battery wasn't impacted, given the issue with their protocol on the older line and such I didn't see it worth it. Glad to see they fixed those two issues on the newer one. And yes, I have some mains powered ones off of ESP chips using the AM312. Love those little sensors and easy to mount in things. I've done some older multisensor videos and such on them.

@sharktamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY yeah I've watched them, definitely interested in trying to make a couple to get that timeout down.

I have *1* AM312 module (on an 8266) that's crazy sensitive. It picks up movenemt at 60ft (length of the house). 2 others at the other end of the house have trouble sensing 5ft away. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Love those AM312 sensors. I have several deployed myself for a few years.

Thanks Travis.

Travis. Can I change the sensitivity and time out on the Aqara P1 in Home Assistant? Or will I need the Aqara hub to do it?

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I changed the settings in Zigbee2mqtt which is exposed to HA.

@JesseG2573

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY Thanks !!!

Is the Hue Outdoor Sensor the only one you would recommend for outdoor use?

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah as it is the only one that is outdoor rated that I tested. Others would require the user to seal them in something and still be able to see out.

I really like the Ikea sensor.. I think you just did not configure the occupancy timeout in the settings, did you? The default is 90 seconds, which is actually good for battery saving and a lot of applications anyways, but if you want to test the sensitivity it would make sense to set the time out to 0-3 seconds.

@digiblurDIY

6 ай бұрын

Mine didn't have any exposed settings on the timeout. I found others complaining about it as well on various threads.

@peterpalupski

6 ай бұрын

I think it depends on how you integrate this sensor. If you use the Ikea Hub or Z2M the settings should be exposed. ZHA and other platforms might not be supported. I have 2 of these Tradfri sensors and am pretty happy with them. The only annoyance is that it is pretty hard to make OTA updates work using Z2M. It probably is easier using the Ikea app, but I am not going to connect any Zigbee device to a cloud.... Nvmd I ordered one of these new Aqara sensors as well. They are three times as expensive, but I like the configuration options they come with :).

Will you ever be doing non Zigbee? I am really liking the idea of bluetooth.

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

The reliability and ease of use with BLE just isn't there yet compared to a mesh protocol like Zigbee or Zwave. BLE is great for temperature and stuff that isn't time sensitive like motion.

@SuperDaddyof2DD

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY Interesting. I just purchased one to try out. Was only $12. I'll see how it works.

I have Kerui Mini Motion detector in my garage, i dont know why it keeps giving false alarm in the middle of the night no cats, no no animals Its a close garage near the road. The sensor is facing the main door inside. Idk what adjustment i need to do

so if i was about to buy all new motion sensors for a new home... like 20 of them... which one would you go with?

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

The two I listed as the favorites in description depending on my needs/budget for the area.

@FrankGraffagnino

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY ahh! I missed that in the description. Thanks!

I talked to martin jerry and they said they will sell pre flashed dimmer at end of this month probably!!!!

Really would like an answer to the Ikea Tradfri Motion Sensor reset time. Mine has a timeout of over 4 minutes which is plain stupid.

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I will be able to check later in the week to see if the specific setting tab has more options.

@peterpalupski

6 ай бұрын

You can set the occupancy time for the Tradfri sensor. I am using Z2M and youll find it under sepcific settings. The default is 90 seconds

have you used any of these as a light sensor, say you remotely turn on a light in a dark room, would it sense motion?

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

They do have lux sensors but usually that doesn't update until motion is detected. Light doesn't usually make a PIR kick unless it makes a big heat change which would require some serious old school lighting

@garylovesbeer

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY The Philips Hue I have updates continually. Very handy, great sensor.

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Nice to know if triggers on lux changes too. They did a great job on this sensor.

Do I need manufactures hub for linkind sensor or I can use any zigbee hub

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Most zigbee hubs will work fine.

@Leo-sl9vr

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY amazon link from description says that it must be from linkind I plan to use it with home assistant but don’t want to buy their hub lol

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

You are good to go. That's for the average joe user. They work fine with HA as you can see I tested with it.

@Leo-sl9vr

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY awesome Thanks man for fast response 🙌

I'd like to see some radar ones

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

There is that new Xiaomi one but it isn't being sold outside of the China market.

@HATipsByLarry

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiblurDIY and there is the new Aqara FP1 (also only sold in china at the moment) but its more of a presence sensor then a motion sensor. Very nice but also very expensive.

But again, you have placed all these in a line and it's normal that some of the sensors have detected the motion differently. If The kid appears from the left, the sensors that are on the right side will detect it first/faster of course.

@digiblurDIY

Жыл бұрын

It is why I did the direct tests as they have different beamwidths as well.

High on rocks 😄

the bouyany folks need some zigbee coordination! see what I did there?

Bouyant!

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Famous!

Only the aquara original and the outdoor are good looking detectors.... What battery does the original aquara sensor use??? What is 'sticky zigbee'??? I have never bought 2045 batteries concerned they may be pricey to replace in new aquara... THE REST ARE UGLY... IMO🤪

@digiblurDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I am not sure as I did not include the original aqara one in this review as the new one addressed the failures of the old.