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It’s High Noon! And that means it’s time for some rootin’ tootin’ commanders. Luckily, Magic’s latest set Outlaws of Thunder Junction has rustled up all sorts of strong legends. So when you’re putting together your next 100-card posse and need a tough customer to lead it, look no further than these dastardly desperados. We’ve got the synergies and strategies that’ll help you get that big score at your next game night, so saddle up - it’s gonna be a wild ride!
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:04:26 - Most Powerful Commanders
00:05:25 - Akul the Repentant
00:16:15 - Bruse Tarl, Roving Rancher
00:24:28 - Eriette, the Beguiler
00:38:09 - Felix Five-Boots
00:47:08 - Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds
00:54:48 - Kellan, the Kid
01:11:38 - Loot, the Key to Everything
01:18:29 - Obeka, Splitter of Seconds
01:26:46 - Riku of Many Paths
01:35:00 - Roxanne, Starfall Savant
01:44:06 - The Gitrog, Ravenous Ride
01:52:47 - Vraska, the Silencer
02:01:28 - Our Favorite Commander
02:03:08 - Most Powerful Commander
02:05:12 - Outro
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Which commanders do you think are the most powerful Commanders in the set? Did we miss any? Are you planning on building any of the Commanders we talked about today? What are the sweet cards that we missed?
@NerdHerder545
2 ай бұрын
I think Vihaan, Goldwaker has the potential to be a very powerful and unique take on Mardu Aristocrats/Treasures.
@user-rf4yw1xp4z
2 ай бұрын
Wanted to see your analysis of the new Kambal, I think it's busted!
@johnnyd1988
2 ай бұрын
Im guessing Rakdos Thunder Junction regional variant is in the 99 vid?
@Lady_Luxury
2 ай бұрын
Think there was a major miss for Akul--you can't have Goblin swarms and etbs without the king, Purphoros. The other Purphoros costs 5 and gives stuff haste, and then there's the newly reprinted Terror of the Peaks, which goes extra hard with cheating out big stuff. Also, minor flub on Rachel's part: the treasures Vraska turns your stuff into aren't tokens, meaning you can't double them up with Parallel Lives or Second Harvest or populate stuff.
@lapinrouge8876
2 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised not to see the new marchesa or taii wakeen. bot see really well
A bit surprised that with Bruse, they didn’t mention the obvious Ox in the room in Restless Bivouac.
@mikebott6940
2 ай бұрын
Cattle Tribal is on its way.
@DrOmnipotent
2 ай бұрын
@@mikebott6940mooooove over
@sambrown9475
2 ай бұрын
Call it "Home on the Range" 😂
This podcast becoming the candy zone podcast for 5 minutes was the best part 😂😂😂
I would not be surprised if Olivia built a Eriette, the Beguiler deck and have Eriette of the Charmed Apple in the deck as part of the 99.
@harrisonmalfoy429
2 ай бұрын
I have an Eriette if the charmed apple deck, and my best friend told me I should.
@CarlosSJoannaR
2 ай бұрын
That's my plan exactly
@B3NN3TT066
2 ай бұрын
This is also my plan lol
@ImNotPoppyAtAll
2 ай бұрын
i have an eriette of the charmed apple deck and i'm building a eriette, the beguiler deck with the other eriette in the 99 2 eriette decks, double the fun
@austinward9741
2 ай бұрын
Don't forget Killian in the 99
Kellan, The Kid is love at first sight for me, it is an open ended engine to use a lot of fun mechanics as well as many of my favorite cards. I do think finding the balance between instant speed interaction and actual things to cheat into play, but so long as you can get lands in, all is well.
@meekumanu
2 ай бұрын
It's great because it's a playstyle that has never really been in Bant before, but it's still kind of got the signature Bant "vomit your hand onto the battlefield" playstyle. Super well designed, has synergy with tons of mechanics, but still doesn't seem super overpowered. I'm really happy with this Kellan.
@metricarea7546
2 ай бұрын
I love the Kellan!
@rippleeffectspnw
Ай бұрын
Same, as soon as I saw it I had to have it. Had to get it built before anyone in my pod too. Favorite card of my favorite set from the last 5 years.
Invasion of Kaladesh also gets you three types on turn two!
Something they didnt mention about Vraska, is that you dont even *need* a stream of removal spells to kill creatures in golgari. She can revolve around a deathtoucher core. There are like 5 equipment in the game that let you ping creatures for 1 with attatched creatures for dirt cheap, and giving access to cheap fight and ping spells makes your killing much more consistent. Also, Felix Five-Boots has blue and black. Hes a ninjutsu commander.
@austinward9741
2 ай бұрын
Funny enough, I was looking at the Grand Larceny precon and might take out some of the combat damage cards and Felix to add more cast from exile cards on Gonti, Canny Acquistor.
Appreciate the shoutout to my boys Yargle and Multani, that deck is so much fun!
Prismatic Bridge waits eagerly for obeka’s release ❤️
@elliotthartsock8809
2 ай бұрын
Ew
@thickpickles2325
2 ай бұрын
Right!
@hunterjoverstreet
2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@VexylObby
2 ай бұрын
I agree, I think she will be more valuable in the 99.
Important correction on Jaxis + Ghired: Jaxis gives all of the Blitz properties to the token as a continuous effect, rather than modifying the copying process (Jaxis says "it gains", rather than "except"), so copies of the tokens you make with Jaxis will not have haste, will not draw a card when they die, and will not be sacrificed at the end of the turn.
Bovine intervention
@OhNoTheFace
2 ай бұрын
HA
@Mizelei2012
Ай бұрын
Great comment
I'm a little sad that there was no mention of Lilah, Undefeated Slickshot. Seems like Wizards is gradually increasing the support for prowess. My intuition is that it may be a signpost for Izzet in Bloomburrow. And Swords to Cowshares is an expert pun!
@smargio
2 ай бұрын
One of the coolest spellslinger cards I've seen in a long time.
@austinward9741
2 ай бұрын
Bria from Bloomburrow will go nicely with Lilah.
@mikebott6940
2 ай бұрын
@@austinward9741 I'll probably find room for both in my Narset, Enlightened Exile deck.
"we have never seen anything like this in a magic card before" the 9th Doctor crying in the corner.
For Gitrog, use his saddle ability and then cast Colossification on the creature in the saddle. +20 cards!
@jameelkurabi
2 ай бұрын
That would require a bit of setup since Colossification is an enchantment. Can't cast it at instant speed.
@daneburke6592
2 ай бұрын
@@jameelkurabiyou can saddle it on your main phase and then put the aura on it. How is that a lot of setup?
@PrimetimeSports20
2 ай бұрын
He may be a newbie@@daneburke6592
Delina, Wild Mage would be bonkers in a Roxanne, Starfall Savant deck. Delina can come down before Roxanne, and then attack the turn Roxxanne comes down. Roxanne's attack trigger doesn't happen with Delina since the token would enter already attacking, but it is still a token copy that enters the battlefield, so it is essentially a blink effect on attack that will make more meteorites. Edit: I started putting together a decklist for Roxanne, and I found Esika's Chariot, another great card for Roxanne. Attacking with it can create a copy of ANY token you control unlike other things that tend to only copy creatures, so you can make more meteorites. Another great combo, although it's difficult to pull of because it requires two cards on board, is Stangg, Echo Warrior and Dan Lewis. Dan turns all of the meteorites, and any other artifacts you have, into equipment, so then you can equip all of those artifacts to Stangg, and then Stangg copies all of them on attack. All the copies are sacrificed at the end step, but they all still get the ETB triggers and could be tapped for mana before they go. Some other noteworthy cards are Blade of Selves and Nexus of Becoming. Blade of selves effectively works like Delina, giving Roxanne myriad, and Nexus of Becoming gives some card draw and creates the possibility of turning regular mana rocks like sol ring and arcane signet into tokens so that they create extra mana from Roxanne's ability. Also, Displaced Dinosaurs can turn any new meteorites into dinos XD instead of sending them into extinction, meteorites will make new dinos!
Note on Roxanne and mana rocks that have conditions on their mana (like powerstones): Roxanne generates the mana herself and has no restrictions on use, so Powerstones can be tapped and the additional colorless mana can be used to cast nonartifact spells. However, this also means Icy Manaliths from Svella only count as producing one snow mana, as Roxanne isn't a snow permanent.
Some interesting lands to play in obeka are bottomless vault, dwarven hold, and sand silos. If you are able to get those extra upkeeps they will almost always be tapping for at least 2
16:19 I've been waiting my whole life for this *see name
I’m surprised not to see the new Kambal here. There are a ton of tokens floating around in Commander games these days, so Kambal will provide a ton of value just from your opponents. But beyond that, he’s maybe the best commander I’ve seen for a deck built around giving the table a ton of tokens to blow up later for Blood Artist, Syr Konrad, etc. Hunted Horror gives you 13 power for just 2 mana! Forbidden Orchard becomes one of the best lands ever printed! Alliance of Arms is obscene!
@seductiveswine7387
2 ай бұрын
Not to mention the sheer volume of tokens you get from Infernal Genesis and Tombstone Stairwell. I also quite like Wedding Ring, since you get two of them for double the draw and life gain. Saw in Half can be used offensively to copy someone’s best creature twice, which is delightful. Kambal has so much tech, it’s been a really fun build around.
@covfefe5842
2 ай бұрын
@@seductiveswine7387 I appreciate you for the Saw in Half tech! The Wedding Ring play is hilarious anyway (I’m twice as married as you), but it gets truly ridiculous with a Panharmonicon. I’m also trying out Overencumbered as a pseudo Secret Rendezvous that can really hose artifact-heavy aggressive decks.
@seductiveswine7387
2 ай бұрын
@@covfefe5842 I had forgot about panharmonicon. You can really just invite everyone to the polycule at that point, huh? Plus if you’re running corpse knight and suture priest effects that can definitely get out of hand quickly. I remember overencumbered being targeted in the majority of deck techs as a cut from Dogmeat, so I’m also glad to give it a home.
@covfefe5842
2 ай бұрын
@@seductiveswine7387 Yea, you can also play Delney to double your Kambal/Priest/Knight/Blood Artist triggers. It’s even grosser than it first appears because a token on any opponent’s side will make two Kambal triggers, which will each produce an additional drain.
@seductiveswine7387
2 ай бұрын
@@covfefe5842 I completely forgot about Delney, that’s awesome! Plus her unblockable ability means that my 50 billion Tombstone Stairwell zombies are probably getting in. Going to have to pick one up for sure.
I'm with Rachel, banana runts are the best runts.
For Vraska, they mentioned a lot of animate artifact enchantments, but not Titania's Song. You animate everyone's noncreature artifact. that way you kill everyone else's treasures but get to keep your own, since yours have a cmc.
I was already gonna build Vraska, but this just gave me some more nasty ideas :D I love it!
I brewed around the new Obeka, but didn't end up with a list that I thought would be fun for me and my playgroup (it would have been a very feast-or-famine voltron deck), so I brewed around Kellan, the Kid next, wasn't liking that it turned out too "good-stuff-y" and finally settled on my first budget deck (entire deck including lands under 100 €, not extremely budget, but a decent first for me): Doc Aurlock's Crazy Adventures ! An adventure deck in Simic colors that plays a couple of Plot and Foretell cards for good measure and tries to win in very fair ways (and without any extra land drops or landfall triggers).
i love the talk about backgrounds, i fell they are forgotten about when they do so much
One huge card that I _love_ in the new Obeka is Descent into Avernus. Generates you a _ton_ of treasures, slugs the rest of the table into kill range, and it hitting you isn't as bad since you'll likely have other draining effects like Twilight Prophet. Curses are also quite good in Obeka. Cathedral of War and Forge of Heroes are a couple of my fav lands for decks where you want to buff your commander.
@austinward9741
2 ай бұрын
What do you think about Protection Racket? Huge card advantage; opponents can only pay so much life.
1:44:04 i got some few suggestions to add for roxxane is you can try out aggregated and hellkite charge cause the are mana sinkers that can add more meteorites to you collection, there is also esika’s chariot and one card that i was pretty obsessed with is orthion which you can use to make 5 copies of roxxane, though she does die from legend rule she will still make 5 meteorites. I really love this card because the idea of killing someone with meteorites is funny.
Note: pretty sure with kellan and mentioning fblthp near the end it was stated you could plot them play them that turn , you can't cast any plotted turns the turn you plot them , has to be a following turn.
This set has so many interesting and fun looking commanders. One could go broke trying to build them all. Kambal, Gitrog, Akul, and Felix are 4 I really like.
Infinite Hourglass seems super fun with Obeka
I love the new vraska, gitrog, breeches and Magda
So excited to put Bruse into my Duskana, the Rage Mother deck!
Built the new Selvala, can’t wait to give all my creatures little 1/1 bodyguards to accompany them.
I run Godsire in my Ghired Conclave Exile deck and it seems like it’ll be great in new Ghired too
Two great top-ends I chose for my Akul list that make use of all of the creature generation are *Razaketh* for multiple tutors and *Graaz* because your tokens become a lot scarier as juggernauts :) *Vein Ripper* also seems amazing in aristocrats builds, but I am building in a different direction
I’ve been really intrigued by Obeka after further consideration of her the past couple days. A real nasty combo with her is Rising Waters. Load her up with some buffs and now you’re the only one playing.
Whatever you’re paying Rachel, go ahead and double it
@malachifreedman3975
2 ай бұрын
What does this mean?
@RickyChops
Ай бұрын
@@malachifreedman3975 It means that they should double her salary. ☺️
@malachifreedman3975
Ай бұрын
@@RickyChops For some reason i read it as what ever you’re paying, Rachel, double it. I was just being stupid.
1:52:30 I read about that just today, coincidentally ^^ Here's how the story goes: Jace is so powerful a telepath that he managed to mind control his immune system into fighting the compleation. He then planeswalked to Vraska, found an uncompleated part of her conscience in the mind palace he had previously built in her mind, and taught her immune system the same trick. They then planeswalked to his home plane, where his mother, an accomplished healer (who had presumed him dead for years), nursed them back to health. Only afterwards did they realize that Vraska had been desparked in the process. Worried about what the Omenpaths might mean for the multiverse they set up the events of OoTJ so that they could get their hands on Loot.
Obeka is going to be an absolute all star in my grixis nine/Clara upkeep deck for the grixis package, initiative and dungeons is hilarious when you can finish the undercity in a single turn
I built Roxanne with a burn package as well as a treasure package and a blink package. She is so versatile that you can do several different things with her. I love the card.
We need another Game Knights, now focused on the Precon stuffs. I'm loving Outlaws, I'm building a deck around Satoru, the Infiltrator and it'll be a mix of Ninja/Ninjutsu and Reanimate. It's holding a lot of emotional value for me because it's my first time ever building a Commander deck of my own - or in my case, a Historic Brawl, because I'll be playing it on Magic Arena. Can't wait to craft that deck and roll out!
Quick question. The last 2 to 3 sets that ultra pro made product for all advertised deck dividers. For fallout, you can clearly see deck dividers with the bobble head art on them. But I didn't see the ability to buy them . Same here. I see thunder junction deck dividers, but where do I buy them?
Eriette, the Beguiler is pretty cool. I had the previous version of her built from Wilds of Eldraine. I think I'll update that deck to this version as its more my style.
Obeka is so cool. I'm definitely going to build her!
I am so hype with Loot, I already have a list made to capitalize on Slime Against Humanity. Its perfect with all of the cards being exiled at end of turn
Another awesome episode, thanks guys \m/
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Obeka has Yuriko colors, so I could see her having incredible amounts of evasion options…and there’s just so many different ways to break upkeep triggers.
8:46 you forgot the almighty "Weaponcraft Enthusiast" 3 Mana 3 Bodies
@commandcast
2 ай бұрын
This is a great one!
Sword of Hearth and Home would be so good in Akul
Perfect name for the Akul deck. The Three Body Problem
@ertai222
2 ай бұрын
Hey I'm watching that show.
Im building Obeka to turbo through the initiative. toss a sword on her and she'll get through the dungeon every turn! so hyped to play this deck.
Thanks for spotlighting Bruse. Feel he got overlooked during spoiler season. Hoping he is as fun as he looks.
I got Sarinth Greatwurm in my Jinnie Fay deck, works great!
Weaponcraft Enthusiast is a Rakdos 3body 3cmc you can use to Akul as well
I hope Josh builds a new obeka deck that would be so sweet to see
Akul is wizards way of giving Jimmy a rakdos deck without needing his land drops lol
I love Loot, the Key to Everything. It's cute, and it would be great in the 99 of my Thirteenth Doctor deck
I got a feeling the best removal spells in the Vraska deck will be bite spells because she also has deathtouch… so rather than play any of your 2 mana black removal with limited targets or other downside, just have her deal dmg equal to her power and kill anything not indestructible for just as cheap.
hope you make a video on most important cards in general for commander of the set
I would like to mention Stella Lee as the most powerful. It's a storm deck and she goes infinite with a ham sandwich. Dramatic Reversal and twiddle would give you infinite mana. Twisted Fealty is an act of treason that untaps the creature and gives it a wicked role that would kill the whole table. And the floor of the deck would be to double your cantrips to draw extra cards or have an extra counter in a counter war. Definitely think Stella is a very powerful commander.
So I mostly have older cards from when enchantments were enchant creature instead of Aura. How would this work with Eriette? Would they still count?
Rocks Rock! Shouts out to the Daddies
Damn, I haven’t had Runts in a minute. Now I want Runts. lol
Let’s be real, if we don’t get an episode of Extra Turns with Rachel playing Bruse Tarl, Roving Rancher and the Oxen, then we would be sad.
Akul, Felix, Roxanne and Ghired are the ones that interest me from this list of commanders
In regards to Ghired, there's a green creature from a few years back its a (I think Giant) woman on the left of the card and it has an ETB of enters the battlefield with +1/+1 equal to the total power of creatures you control. That would be cool. Like a Galloping Lizrog in mono green though. Doubling Season, Ozolith and Branching Evolution as well..
I know it’s a land card, but Restless Bivouac is literally a 3CMC Ox when you need it. 24:02
Psychic visions still great with this Obeka.
I think Goldwaker seems like a really good excuse to rebuild my old Queen Marchesa deck. The commander I’m most excited to build is Taii. I think it has a lot of potential. there are so many ways to take advantage of her activated ability multiple times per turn.
With Eriette one thing I really liked in my brewing was some of the disturb creatures. Katilda and Mirrorhall mimic are the best ones because they are just decent creatures if nothing else, but they can also be used to steal stuff
@mariahdaley4773
2 ай бұрын
Yes but be careful. I’m pretty sure the cmc for the aura side is equal to the cmc of the front of the card. So the aura you get from katilda is 3 cmc, not 5 cmc. Still a good addition though
Riku is my fave, going right into my Ramos charms deck
I tried brewing Kellan, the Kid and it just kind of falls flat; and I think the discussion from Rachel and Jimmy shows that too. Like they said, if you're not keeping your hand full, Kellan's not doing anything. On top of that, he's a rather inconsistent payoff for casting other things that don't really have any synergy with one another. He seems much more interesting in the 99 of another deck that enables you to play from exile or top of deck, but the 3 mana color identity prevents that from happening in most other decks. If he was red it would allow for a much better impulse payoff, but alas...
@VexylObby
2 ай бұрын
The way I build my decks, that should not be an issue. I would build the deck around a theme that can operate without the commander, then let the commander be a utility that can be fun if needed. Adventures come to mind.
You all should 110% do a meanies extra turns episode
Gonti and obeka are by far my favorite cards of the set
"Adios" is a pretty good cowboy word for "goodbye".
I dunno which is the most powerful, but there's a lot of charming commanders. I had an ooze deck brewing and now I want Felix as the commander. I also built an Obeka deck as soon as I finished reading her ability when the card was revealed. I'ts kind of a nutty deck. She makes suspend cards just hit the turn they're played and the ones that suspends after being played suddenly loop every turn. Shivan Meteor, Arc blade and reality strobe. So much fun! >:D
0:35 - "Did you know there is a Magic artist named James Wong" and "Did you know there is a Magic card that's named James Wong" seems to be one of those pairs of phrases that you hear whichever you expect to hear. I totally missed Rachel saying "artist" the first time!
Asinine Antics from Eldraine with Erriete on the table will just steal all the creature tokens and it can be cast at instant speed
love the new golgari toys!!!
My vraska deck has lots of ways to turn all lands into creatures and then board wipe you get a bunch of treasure lands
For Eriette you also really want Agent of Treachery. Three cards a turn is no joke.
Tai Wakeen seems pretty fun to build, I'm surprised Rachel didn't pick it
@1:49:13 This just seems like a backup commander to my yargle and multani deck, but better and maybe more landfall synergies.
I'd like to say that with Felix Five-Boots you can lean into toxic as getting the poison counters is triggered by combat damage (if I'm wrong let me know but I think thats how it works) Absolutely nasty
@canamrock
2 ай бұрын
Toxic is like lifelink, it's an additional element of combat damage, not a triggered ability. Same with infect. Fynn, the Fangbearer is the secret sauce for that sort of trick.
@skulg359
2 ай бұрын
@@canamrock doesn't the reminder text of toxic specifically say it triggers from combat damage? Or am I misunderstanding that, what's the ruling that prevents it and lifelink from working with it?
@seductiveswine7387
2 ай бұрын
@@skulg359Yeah sadly it’s not a triggered ability, it’s static. But like the other guy said Fynn is great with Felix. A number of poison staples proliferate on combat, so Felix doubles them too. You can also run cards with Poisonous, or the really old creatures with poison abilities from before New Phyrexia, as all those are combat damage triggers. I definitely think poison is a valid option, especially considering he has blue, which most of the recent poison commanders have been lacking.
@therealax6
2 ай бұрын
@@skulg359 You're describing poisonous. Sadly, it's only in like two cards.
I do want to build a deck around Vraska, the Silencer and have displaced dinosaurs in the deck. It would be epic.
I think we need to see the Vraska deck haha 😜
Correct me if I'm wrong but having Nature's Will on board with Gitrog Ravenous Ride should let you untap all those freshly played lands, right? Just get you even more gas to play all that card draw
I’m building Kellen and there’s nothing anybody can do to stop me
There is a extre combat spell in green. Seedtime. Its 2 mana but you can only cast it if a opponet cast a blue spell on your turn
Ghired is going straight into my other Ghired deck, which is already heavily built around cloning big tokens. And I really want to try and build Vraska Tribal with the new Vraska as the commander - no idea if it's going to be good but I think it will be funny. And I have a list mostly brewed for Roxanne, where every non-land card in the deck mentions a rock somewhere.
I've been working on an upkeep deck for years- immediately built the Ninth Doctor and Clara Oswald, but Obeka is absolutely insane, already swapped the deck over for her Also have an Obeka End Step Deck so it's fitting
Jimmy went all in on the theme and spent all day in the saloon to prepare for this podcast 🍻🍻🍻🤪
Nice video 👍
@commandcast Are there cards that can change the names of tokens created? I want to build a Yuma, Proud Protector deck that focuses on the 4/2 Plant Warrior token and apply a bunch of effects that can pump up key aspects of the token (some for green, some for reach, and / or some for Plant / Warrior).
@spellbreakerunbound
Ай бұрын
spy kit
If building obeka as a staxy powerhouse, good choices are aether vial and as foretold so you can just cheat your hand into play
i already built a Obeka deck, she is so intresting and i am so hyped for her!
I think Akul is super cool! But one extra awesome 3-drop that results in 3 bodies is weaponcraft enthusiast. I also cannot wait to see Rachel's next game knights deck with Ox Kindred lol. The flavor is amazing and even Iroas looks like an Ox/centaur guy
New Obeka is insane with Bonehoard Dracosaur
Jimmy, where did you get that Wrench Mind shirt ? love it.
I played sarinth greatwurm in my erinis/street urchin deck and it was great. Erinis has deathtouch and the street urchin background gives him a ping ability for 1 mana and sac an artifact or creature so it payed to sac itself to kill a creature