Turin: *Kills Morgoth once for all* Gimli: "That still only counts as one!"

@khukri_wielderxxx1962

3 жыл бұрын

Best quote possible on this thread good sir!

@justanotherguy5915

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@chipperunder6887

3 жыл бұрын

I like what you did there I also enjoyed the heck out of your comment

@safenders

3 жыл бұрын

Ok you might win the internet for today

@camerongunn7906

3 жыл бұрын

I heard this in Gimli's voice.

You know it's crazy when Earendil shows up in a space ship to kill a dragon.

@davidlundquist1979

3 жыл бұрын

"He's from space. He came here to steal a necklace from a wizard." Tony Stark being snarky, or Tolkien plot summary?

@jesseroberts3115

3 жыл бұрын

With giant eagles no less

@Southernrefinish88

3 жыл бұрын

ancient aliens

@feydeway

3 жыл бұрын

i hope they put this in the final season of that silmarillion show they’re making

@d.s.c.5438

3 жыл бұрын

@@feydeway The show is set during the Second Age, so all of this has already happened very much time ago.

The war against Melkor kinda explains why people like Elrond, Gandalf and Galadriel were fairly chill about Sauron. Sure, he was the worst thing CURRENTLY happening in Middle-Earth, and posed a threat that had to be dealt with EVENTUALLY. But to those who survived the first and second ages, the Third Age looked tame. Only one noteworthy dragon, Ungoliont was long-vanished, and the most powerful threat is a former liuetenant with a fraction of his bosses power. Melkor literally darkened the entire world twice. Sauron had to work hard to create a cloudy day to stop his Orcs from getting sunburned. Not to mention, Sauron never created anything like the Dragons, just improved on Melkor's designs. Sauron was, to them, a clean-up operation before going home to Valinor.

@M24071

Жыл бұрын

Sauron was a toddler compared to morgoth

@joew9690

Жыл бұрын

Morgoth didn't create anything !Evil can not create new things only twisted already created.

@magic713m

Жыл бұрын

It's why Sauron had to resort to manipulations and trickery during the Second Age. He did not have nearly the power his former master held, to wage war whenever he wanted. The timing had to be right, or he had to be prideful or desperate enough to challenge them in might.

@Crichjo32

Жыл бұрын

Sauron was like Morgoth's secretary, who continued to file the paperwork whilst his boss was out of commission.

@TelpPov

Жыл бұрын

This is why Saruman joining Sauron made zero sense. Sauron was not a greater power rising in the East if that's what Saruman was seeking lol. Saruman is a maiar who witnessed entire 1st and 2nd age and was selected to guide the men in 3rd age as being the wisest. He of all should understand, all it take for this 3rd age playhouse between men and Sauron to end is by some really powerful Maiar unleashed by the Valars. The host of valinor don't even need to show up. Saruman with his pride, power and all wouldn't even need to bow down to a Sauron who is of his equal while diminished without physical form

Elves: the wisest race in Arda Also the Elves: "let's kill each other for some jewelry while the bad guy attacks us"

@finns935

2 жыл бұрын

The Hypocrisy is soo real

@folklore19

2 жыл бұрын

There's an old joke that the elves are all so wise by Frodo's time because all the stupid and short-tempered ones had killed themselves off thousands of years prior

@chrish4439

2 жыл бұрын

@@folklore19 that actually makes a lot of sense lol

@jesusxsmn

2 жыл бұрын

Never underestimate the destructive power of pride

@quintusfabiusmaximus8700

2 жыл бұрын

elves: yo bruh we smart jewels exist elves: give it to MEEEEE

Wow, the War of the Ring was a pillow fight compared to this 😂

@tevincollins2869

3 жыл бұрын

Basically lol it mattered but the old age was like playing rugby over lava

@bbsolpico1

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@BeardAxeMcAxeBeard

3 жыл бұрын

Someone needs to make a movie of this, but it better be high quality

@heimdall1973

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeardAxeMcAxeBeard An epic, I guess. Or a series.

@azaram8133

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine seeing the armies of the Vanyar, Maiar and Noldor all under Eonwe fighting millions of orcs under the Balrogs and Sauron and a fleet of winged Dragons in their full might on screen

I've recently gotten into The Silmarillion and was surprised at the destruction of the War of Wrath. A third of a continent is sunk into the sea; what destruction!

@mowermen1762

3 жыл бұрын

I would say it was a separate continent kinda like Europe and Asia **(I get your point)**

@maxwellwynter174

3 жыл бұрын

@@mowermen1762 except europe and asia are a single continuous continental shelf, India being an exception to this ofc.

@FuryOmega

3 жыл бұрын

Makes the War of the Ring look like more of a squabble, doesn't it?

@morgothbauglir8687

3 жыл бұрын

@@FuryOmega War of the Ring... phhh, that’s child’s play

@southwestmafia6814

3 жыл бұрын

42 years of war. no wonder 1 third of the land is sunk

The War of Wrath sounds like a fantastic setting for a video game. 42 years of conflict, epic battles with dragons and balrogs, and heroes from Valinor!

@pnwoffroader331

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a video game that took 42 years to beat

@max2008abhi

3 жыл бұрын

In real life that would be the war of Afghanistan. 42 years of conflict and on and on it goes

@Iliketrainsbrooooom

2 жыл бұрын

@@max2008abhi lol.

@moaazmoustafa3169

Жыл бұрын

@Nisr Masry88 𓅓𓁺𓄿𓁼𓃭𓎦𓏭 𓂝 so you wanted the invaders to win.....

@samvimes9510

Жыл бұрын

There's so much fantastic material for video games. And what do we get? Gollum. A terrible, broken game nobody asked for. I have no idea how that stupid project even got greenlight, or why Embracer Group gave the LOTR rights to that studio to begin with.

Goddamn. I've always wished Tolkien would've finished the story of the Dagor Dagorlath, as the description of the rebirth of the world sounds beautiful beyond measure.

@presidentsnow7315

3 жыл бұрын

My understanding was that elves and dwarves would not inherit the new world resulting from the second music, only humans would, (since elves and dwarves were directly tied with and created from the first music) which (if true) kind of made me think that the Tolkien intended the new world to be the world that we currently live in.

@darkisatari

3 жыл бұрын

@@presidentsnow7315 would the dwarves be considered part of the first music? They were created behind Illuvatar’s back after all

@presidentsnow7315

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkisatari Honestly, I have no idea.

@tjbfox769

3 жыл бұрын

@@presidentsnow7315 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 That is fucking wicked cool.

@presidentsnow7315

3 жыл бұрын

@@tjbfox769 =D

This is one of those series worth watching several times. Great job!!

@lordheklsmosh9490

3 жыл бұрын

The music for the war of wrath is amazing

@GaryPewteaux63

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously. I have watched these over and over. Now I'm about to watch this one a couple times today

@Praetorian_Rex

3 жыл бұрын

Lord hekl smosh I agree! Do you know the song?

@lordheklsmosh9490

3 жыл бұрын

@@Praetorian_Rex no I do not

@BlueGuitarMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed! This is a great dive!

What’s scary about Morgoth is that they were unable to kill him but they could imprison him. So he just waits...for the time to be right again.

@nate7LP_my_dog_found_the_knife

3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to imagine him floating through space like..."yep, any minute now Sauron should be popping up to unbind me, any minute now." Meanwhile back at mordor, Sauron. "I think I'm forgetting something. But for the life of me I can't put a ring on it...hmmm, what would boss do?".

@shadearca

3 жыл бұрын

None of the Ainur could be killed. Sauron is not killed when the ring is destroyed, Saruman is also not killed when Grima stabs him. Morgoth is so diminished at that point that Tulkas just faceplants him every time with ease.

@corneliusmaze-eye2459

2 жыл бұрын

@@nate7LP_my_dog_found_the_knife That makes me wonder. Was Sauron still loyal to Melkor, or would he have turned on him eventually? I think what makes Sauron far worse than Melkor is his unwavering commitment to malice. It was Sauron who created Black Speech, to utilize Orcs as soldiers, and his iron will was impossible to challenge. The idea that such an independent Maiar such as Sauron could keep serving Melkor is frightening.

@RovingPunster

2 жыл бұрын

Even scarier - Sauron, the chief villan of LOTR, was just ONE of Melkor's finger puppets. An underling, and not even his greatest ... during the 1st age he was arguably 3rd or 4th in might behind Gothmog, Ancalagon the Black, and Glaurung. Sauron's chief attributes, besides being a peerless sorcerer of undying relentless hatred, were cunning, patience and his ability to survive ... he always played the long game.

@RovingPunster

2 жыл бұрын

@@corneliusmaze-eye2459 IMNSHO, the word "loyalty" doesnt really apply where (quasi)divine mythological archetypes are involved ... it's a bit like wondering if the seven deadly sins are loyal to the embodiment of evil, or if Red Blue and Green are loyal to Primary Color. As for opining that Sauron was somehow worse than Melkor ... uhm, that's a bit NO, with a capital "N". Melkor was as far above Sauron in terms of power and importance to Arda as Gandalf was above Bill Ferney. Sauron bred orcs and created the black speech yes, and was the chief bad for the 2nd and 3rd ages yes, but the 2nd and 3rd ages only totalled around 5kyrs, which was only a small fraction of all the time covered in the Silmarillion, most of it before the Sun and Moon even appeared. Morgorth threw down entire mountain ranges, uplifted valleys, drained seas, and destroyed the great lights thst preceeded the Sun ... and not just once, but TWICE, and even the Valar couldnt prevent it. Morgorth sang the chief opposition role in the Divine Music that created the entire world and the entirety of all future history that would subsequently unfold. No ... Sauron, for all his might, was just an underling, when compared to Morgorth.

Let's all take a moment to appreciate Eonwe, the highest-ranking Maia, master of arms of all Ainur, who led the army that crushed orcs, dragons, Balrogs, personally hewed Morgoth down, and then told Sauron he didn't have the power to forgive him.

@PorkotylerClips

3 жыл бұрын

Sauron: I’m sorry please show mercy! Eonwe: May the Gods forgive you because I won’t... *reloads shotgun* Sauron: *runs for his life*

@brandtbollers3183

2 жыл бұрын

Came to New Founded Numenor..Befriending King Elros Tar Minyatar.and Teaching The Edain all The Vala wished Revealed to Mortal Men.

@febrian0079

2 жыл бұрын

@@PorkotylerClips makes me wonder what would happened to Sauron if he did willing to return to Valinor or Eönwë just take him to Valinor by force

@steffanyschwartz7801

2 жыл бұрын

@@febrian0079 well Gil Galad would be alive. Numanor wouldn’t be corrupted. The only evil would be men in Rhun which if the blue wizards are still sent can convert. Basically peaceful middle earth with only dragons, a balrog, and spiders to worry about

@aesir1ases64

2 жыл бұрын

@@steffanyschwartz7801 The evil that Morgoth has lay upon Arda and specially Middle-earth would never cease, betrayal, kinslaying and destruction would follow as well, even if Sauron wasnt around to make it worse.

"The dwarves will then be counted among the children of Iluvatar" If that didn't bring tears to your eyes, you're a psychopath.

@simonmorris4226

3 жыл бұрын

I’m an engineer. My father is an engineer. My grandfather a Mason. My great grandfather a miner. My other great grandfather a Blacksmith. Baruk Khazad Khazad ai Menui!

@jacobp249

3 жыл бұрын

I got all choked up at that and I have no idea why

@pthanos

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that and Hurin avenging his children

@billfred9411

3 жыл бұрын

I was always curios as to were the dwarfs go when they die and I think this confirms what they believe is true. They go to there own afterlife called the Halls of Mandos where they wait to rebuild the world with Aulë. For a race that wasint even supposed to exist they sure ended up playing a big role in middle earth.

@greatcoldemptiness

3 жыл бұрын

Calm down

It's interesting to think about how Beleriand's ruins are still sitting there under the sea to this day.

@philipcallado5693

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently Tolkien was inspired by Atlantis. Btw, when you said “under the sea” I thought of Little Mermaid. 😂

@Craftyboy89

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, imagine all the ruined ancient cities and stronholds, Angband, Gondolin etc.

@marleyjr00

3 жыл бұрын

It would make for an interesting DnD adventure.

@willrichards9482

3 жыл бұрын

I think about this daily.

@DISTurbedwaffle918

3 жыл бұрын

@@philipcallado5693 Numenor also ends up being. A parallel to Atlantis, and perhaps a more direct one. Gotta face it, drowning entire landmasses in the ocean is a good way to to reshape the world.

*Morgoth being the Dark lord* meanwhile Manwe: "and I'm the Fabulous lord."

@denisl2760

3 жыл бұрын

Tulkas: I am the Chad lord

@Becky.Ray14

3 жыл бұрын

thanks to the Prancing Pony Podcast now i can onnly think "Omg Manwe!"

@skullknight6584

3 жыл бұрын

Ulmo: "Hellu, help mi. Im under deh woter."

@putrifeehily2696

3 жыл бұрын

@@Becky.Ray14 oh yeah, the 'OMG Manwe' clan

When youtube tolkien fan makes better content than holywood

@heimdall1973

3 жыл бұрын

Fans will definitely make better content. Hollywood is in it for money. They see an interesting story as a cash cow, exploiting it, not bothered about doing it properly, more making a film that's attractive for wider audience plus whatever makes it more profitable. Fans, on the other hand, want proper storytelling, true to the original writings, and they will take time to examine and scrutinise every detail...

@FoulPet

3 жыл бұрын

It's basically a history lesson with random art. While that's probably better than the Hobbit it isn't a fan made "movie".

@hannibalb8276

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, the LOTR trilogy is the greatest film trilogy in history and extremely well done, and they were funded and created by "hollywood".

@heimdall1973

3 жыл бұрын

@@hannibalb8276 It's good. But it's not accurate. Also, I wouldn't call it a film trilogy. I would call it a miniseries consisting of 3 episodes... with each episode being over 2 hours long!

@Sidewinder528

3 жыл бұрын

@@heimdall1973 ....what do you mean not accurate?

*Expects the video on Saturday.* *Nerd of the Rings posts it early* "A surprise to be sure but a welcome one."

@jeremymelvin6976

3 жыл бұрын

Riiiiiiighhtt

@gujikujtutu2330

3 жыл бұрын

It's treason then

@whentheyes4076

3 жыл бұрын

Be silent. Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth (and start quoting LoTR)

@gujikujtutu2330

3 жыл бұрын

@@whentheyes4076 Authority is not given to you to deny the return of the king

I swear to Eru Ilúvatar, Tolkien unintentionally created death metal while creating Morgoth.

@euminkong

3 жыл бұрын

Haha.

@simonmorris4226

3 жыл бұрын

No. Aule did when he created the Dwarves. Live underground, wear armour and carry big big axes and hammers to war! Metal. Death. 39, 40, 41 42!🪓

@lordbillaire9638

3 жыл бұрын

More Goth is needed.

@Davidofthelost

3 жыл бұрын

@@simonmorris4226 Aule is Power Metal while Melkor is Death Metal. Fits more for them.

@plasmaborn369

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely created black metal too! The band Gorgoroth, Birzum, Amon Amarth...etc lol

At the end of this video, I was so enthralled by your narrative, and filled by the epicness of this grand, legendary and fulfilling story, I gasped with tears in my eyes. You were able to tell this tale with such power and intensity. Great job, looking forward to your next videos!!

@Donfrak

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say that :''''') The part he says about Beleriand lift up again brought me to tears.

* After Dagor Dagorath and at the beginning of the Second Song * Eru Iluvatar: Very well, after eons we finally get rid of that primadonna of Melkor and now we can create a new perfect world with a new perfect song without any interference New edgy ainur: Allow me to introduce myself...

@nate7LP_my_dog_found_the_knife

3 жыл бұрын

*heavy metal intensifies.

@SephTheHuntress

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Eru actually makes the second song symphonic metal.

@christopherbravo1813

2 жыл бұрын

imagine another Ainur being *foolish* enough to try and imitate Morgoth despite CLEARLY SEEING the results of that path.

@anatoldenevers237

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherbravo1813 Well, Sauron kept being an evil jerk for millennia after his master and most of his other minions got destroyed by the Valar, so it could happen.

@christopherbravo1813

2 жыл бұрын

@@anatoldenevers237 Sauron was already evil.

Fun fact, a throne from which those who sit upon it can observe all of the world is similar to Odin's throne Lidskjalv. Possibly not unique to Norse mythology, but seeing as how much Tolkien draws from it it's likely Húrin's seat was inspired by Odin's

@thedirty530

3 жыл бұрын

Between History & Mythology...When ever I come across something that just screams as an inspiration to his stories, it's a truly great feeling. It really makes me appreciate that everything in it is something about our own history that made a lasting impression on him. Learning the underlying themes also feels like you are learning about his personality as if it was a conversation. Talk about a gift that keeps on giving!

@simonmorris4226

3 жыл бұрын

And the hills of sight and hearing in LOTR!

Anyone who doesn't know, the sword Beleg was killed with was "sentient" in some ways. It's said it carries the guilt of the innocent lives it had taken

@lokensicarius9347

3 жыл бұрын

an if I recall their are meant to two? an both are not from the world itself. :')

@revylokesh1783

3 жыл бұрын

@@lokensicarius9347 yep, Anglachel and Anguirel were forged by Eöl, the Dark Elf, (father of Maeglin who betrayed Turgon). Both swords were forged feom meteorite iron. Eöl kept Anguirel for himself (though his son stole it for himself when he and his mother fled Eöl) and Anglachel was given as payment by Eöl to Thingol at some point. Anglachel was not only sentient, but could also speak, at least once.

@harryhonsoo3255

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah i was going to say you left out alot about why torin does this... The sword talked!

@kodeystockton1124

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but what about Anakin's lightsaber?

@natedorney7032

3 жыл бұрын

Blue Oyster Cult had a song called "Black Blade" which was a nod to the mormegil.

Arguably, THE most epic battle in fantasy ever written ! Waiting anxiously for the Beren and Lúthien video!

just finished all 3 sections. This was very well done.

after reading the silmarillion twice, i finally understood the whole thing with morgoth thanks to your videos. now i only need to read it three more time to understand the elven family trees :P

@LurkerAnonymous

3 жыл бұрын

Go for the Lost Tales and read the part about the Fall of Gondolin. Now those were two pages of epic slaugther.

@LurkerAnonymous

3 жыл бұрын

Or in the Unfinished Tales, I can't remember for certain.

@joaopedrodeamorimpaula8965

3 жыл бұрын

@@LurkerAnonymous will do, thanks!

@LurkerAnonymous

3 жыл бұрын

@@joaopedrodeamorimpaula8965 ********** The Fall of Gondolin - 510 First Age of Arda

@redlightning2322

3 жыл бұрын

@@LurkerAnonymous 👑you dropped this king

The fact that one man was able to create a mythology so great, a legendarium so vast and detailed tells much about the genius of Tolkien. All other religions and myths of the world have evolved and moulded over hundreds of years, the lore abridged and modified by many men and women throughout the ages. And yet, the more I learn about Tolkien's world, the more I am enthralled by the detail and the vast history that he was able to craft just in his own life. Truly, he created one of the greatest mythologies to ever exist for our world, and it will only grow in popularity and renown, as it should.

Yo, if I'm being honest. You're voice over for Morgoth was very good. I loved it, whether you practiced it or it came out of nowhere, you really sold it. Very well done on the voice over & well done on telling the story. I appreciated it. Your time & efforts are appreciated by all Tolkien fans.

I only watched the LOTR trilogy and never thought to read more into the story. Now I know a lot from the first age and second age from watching your channel. Keep up the good work!

@simonmorris4226

3 жыл бұрын

Read the books! Life changing!

I didn’t realize how rich the history of Morgoth was. Listening to these three videos, I felt the same tension I felt while watching the original trilogy. Truly a tale of epic proportions. Well done, NotR. Thank you for these videos.

@Test-mq8ih

Жыл бұрын

Read The Silmarilion, it's a super epic book

Man this is fantastic, Can you make a video's like this about the wars of the legendarium, more characters and so on.....but really this is AWSOME!! Thank you for the information's about the war of wrath, I did not know much about it.

Imagine watching a trilogy about the Simarillion, and The War of Wrath as well. Man it would have been mindblowing seeing the last battle with Balrogs, Maiars, Morgoth, the Valar etc.

@politicallycorrectredskin796

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, Silmarillion is more of a multi-season TV show than a movie trilogy. I thought the LotR trilogy was rushed and skipped too much. I can't even imagine what a Silmarillion trilogy would be like.

@BRG1807

3 жыл бұрын

@@politicallycorrectredskin796 I think they should do a tv series but for each season finale join the last episodes together for a movie Also I wanna see beren and luthien

@blaydeesy2005

3 жыл бұрын

I think it would have to be something like the Harry Potter series… or Fast and Furious lol. Nine movies with other movies that branch off. I could see a computerized animation series of movies, but this guy would have to direct it.

@BRG1807

3 жыл бұрын

@@blaydeesy2005 I don't think animated series works with lord of the rings unless it's specifically targeted at a younger audience But even then it just seems weird having lord of the rings animated

@corneliusmaze-eye2459

2 жыл бұрын

I think it could be done. Three films, each titled The Silmarilion each with the subheadings; Beren and Luthien, Children of Hurin, and The Fall of Gondolin. It would still be tricky to make as the source material is difficult to write a screenplay from, and events happen over a long period of time.

When Hearing this story The Movies seem so Small i mean we get a villaint thats not the original we get a dragon thats one of the smallest there is and only halve of the world this truely is a bigger then live story

@euminkong

3 жыл бұрын

It is soo cool!

@Ramiroocampo

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine having the whole thing in such great detail as LOTR...

@grubbyarmadillo9863

3 жыл бұрын

especially knowing that Morgoth might return...

@corneliusmaze-eye2459

2 жыл бұрын

But that is something Tolkein plays with. The idea that the world is perpetually diminishing; Things and people were bigger and grander in the past, even the darkness was greater; that the elegance of the Eldar days were gone when everyone spoke like a poet instead of peasant slang; The world and structures in it were more carefully built and appreciated, that everything is always a shadow of what the past had to offer. Tolkein was a romantic who grew up in a time when the Aristocracy lost all its flare, leadership, and worth. He became a man at a time when the world tried to embrace the principles of democracy, that any man could rise to lead men. Actually, Tolkein - as great as he is - has some funny ideas about who deserves power, dignity, and righteousness

@christianriddler5063

2 жыл бұрын

@@corneliusmaze-eye2459 Tolkien was a devout Christian. This also means that he is in support of Monarchy and more specifically the one thousand year reign of the King of Kings. Also known as Jesus Christ. There is no democracy in the bible and democracy itself is a short lived dream of naivety that can never become real. Humanity was created to serve God and only God. Tolkien knew this and believed it wholeheartedly as does any real Christian.

Tolkien had Iluvatar sing three versions of creation in three Great Acts, just as Aristotle said all good stories are told in Three Acts. Since the Silmarillion and Hobbit/LOR represent Two Acts, the Dagor Dagorath is probably what Tolkien was trying to write when he left us the 13-page opening of a final book.

@aayushagarwal4138

2 жыл бұрын

No, that book was set just some years after the events of the War of the Ring, the son of King Elessar was still alive.

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

Act 1 - Silmarillion Act 2 - The Hobbit Act 3 - Lord of the Rings Tolkien gave up on The New Shadow after a few pages, and I don't blame him.

@SuperZekethefreak

Жыл бұрын

@@concept5631 Act 2 would be The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings together, since they both tell two parts of the same story. Act 3 is about the Dagor Dagorath, which Tolkien obliquely called The End. Thus, Aristotle's Three Act form is followed: Act 1 (Silmarillion) introduces the main characters and the conflict between antagonists and protagonists, Act 2 (Hobbit/LOTR) develops the conflict and Act 2 (Dagor Dagorath/The End) resolves the conflict. Judging by the stories of Samwise as the Mayor battling Saruman Sharkey (lol) and his own notes on the DD as Act 3, Tolkien very much wanted the last story to be about how all races merge into humanity, with normal humans fighting the much-reduced antagonists of legend, until the rising action leads to a final battle with Giants, many many Dragons, Balrogs and other fantastic creatures who will be serving the revived Melkor.

I never really cared about the background of LotR until now. I need to get a copy of The Simarillion.

@Gwydda

3 жыл бұрын

Have a look at a video called "How to read the Silmarillion" by KZreadr "The Legendarium" so you know what to expect. Most people struggle with the Silmarillion because they go looking for a novel like LoTR.

@williamerickson520

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gwydda Yeah, it's more like a history book. My sister is a big Tolkien nerd. She has a copy. Thanks, tho. Might check out the vid anyway.

@Dylankiwi1

3 жыл бұрын

I say history book comparison not entirely fair nor is the Bible ... I consider it a collection of lost short stories translated by Bilbo telling a story of that era. Well anyways I would recommend Silmarillion explained ( still ongoing but SO GOOD) REALLY good for first timer or even ur second or 3rd whatever reads. They some other Silmarillion content on KZread which helps ya. Once u reach chapter 20 I recommend reading children of Hurin replacement for chapter 21 then read chapter 22 Silmarillion till the end :)

@Gwydda

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dylankiwi1 Well even as a short collection story it somewhat compares with the Old Testament, which is mainly short stories with a whole cast of protagonists, often told in a style of a historical chronicle. But no one is saying it's like a history book or like a Bible, but the style matches with both of them. On the other hand, a short story collection doesn't do it justice, since it has a clear beginning and an end and usually smoothly transitions from one chapter to another.

@Dylankiwi1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gwydda completely agree as it does compromise a beginning, middle and end of sorts at least Thematically speaking. Tough to say what kinda book Silmarillion is but yeah i get what u mean i sometimes hear people just dismiss it as a history book or a Bible ripoff which annoys me haha.

You've done an inspired job telling the story of Morgoth in these three videos. I think most people find their entry to Tolkien's world through The Hobbit or LOTR, but unless they go on to read The Silmarillion they never understand what a mighty fountainhead of storytelling exists in the ancient history of Middle Earth. And I think much of that ancient history is the story of Morgoth.

That picture of Gothmog with Ecthelion at 7:28 is THE BOMB

The quality of your videos is unmatched, and for some reason they are always very emotional. That is something I have not experienced with other LOTR channels. Thank you for your hard work, my friend.

Dude, epic reading of the words between hurin and morgoth. if you slow down to 0.75x and listen to that reading, the voice acting and mood of the conversation is incredible. You amazingly captured the disdain in Hurins speech, as well as the evil glee in Morgoth’s speech

Dude your Morgoth voice in the “ Children of Hurin” reading segment is fricken awesome

@NerdoftheRings

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! ☺️

@StickminTheYT

4 ай бұрын

timestamp pls i wanna hear it

@TheDeadlyKnight

4 ай бұрын

@@StickminTheYT 0:33 - 3:16 . It’s my headcanon voice for Morgoth now, especially the binding spell part

Finally! I was so excited for the third part, but early posting, this indeed is a surprise most welcomed.

It wouldn't be easy but I wish someone would make a TV series of The Silmarillion.

@philipcallado5693

3 жыл бұрын

Amazon is making a series on the second age. I’ve heard rumors of talks for first age movies too. I do like the Marvel and Star Wars cinematic universes, but a Middle Earth/Arda cinematic universe would be mind-blowing.

@jhconnor88

3 жыл бұрын

@@philipcallado5693 But only if done right .. I feel like modern action movies are sucking more & more. Need to get Jackson back in his 1999 mindset!

@philipcallado5693

3 жыл бұрын

Jason Connor I’m fine with Peter Jackson not directing another Middle Earth movie. The LOTR trilogy was special. It was a real passion project for him. Hobbit was basically a money grab. I really wish Guillermo Del Toro could’ve directed that trilogy. I feel like he would’ve given it a fresh take instead of recycling LOTR tropes.

@philipcallado5693

3 жыл бұрын

Joshua Hennessy JA Bayona is directing the first two episodes of the Amazon series. Apparently he’s a huge Tolkien fan, and from what I’ve seen in A Monster Calls I’m encouraged.

@gregbors8364

3 жыл бұрын

Just keep the GoT showrunners and JJ Abrams far, far away from it!

Can’t wait till you have posted every story there is from Tolkien’s universe, and then for someone to put it all together into one HUGE epic, visual story! That being said, thank you for your content. I really appreciate the way you make the stories come to life with the voice acting, map movements, music and pictures. You’re doing a great job!

Please do Sauron next, I would like to know all that he did after heading east and rising as the new Dark Lord…

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

Most surprising thing I found out about early Sauron? Werewolves and vampires.

@NerdoftheRings

3 жыл бұрын

Got you covered already, my friend! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJyBqduNermnZNY.html

@kodemasterx

3 жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings ah thank you, I'm very new to your channel, BTW your content is awesome.

I like the addition of the pic of The Children of Hurin when Morgoth speaks. It's a quick and simple way to tell everyone when, and in which book those events happen.

Like many young folks, I discovered the 'The Hobbit' sometime in my early tweens. Then a bit later, I read the LOTR books, sometime during high school. That time for me was the early 90s, and those books rocked my world, like so many others before me that had read them.. I had no idea that the Silmarillion was a thing until about a year before the first Peter Jackson movie came out, and they had put up a giant display of Tolkien's books at my local Chapters; hoping to cash in on the hype surrounding the film. I had no idea what I had purchased that day, I just thought the name 'Silmarillion' sounded cool. Well!..By the time I had read about the two trees being drained and the Nolder setting foot back on Middle Earth, I was hooked! By the time I got to the end and realized the scope of the whole history... Well... I was simply amazed, just.. so amazed. Twenty two years has past since then, a lifetime ago it seems, but I can still recall that moment when I finished the book and my brain tried to process the utter depth and scope of imagination that I had just partook in. The Silmarillion is a very special book... These video serials of Melkor's exploits are so well done. You really drew me in with your narrative and seamless editing. 10 out of 10 I give this, video story teller fella!

After all the pain and suffering caused by Morgoth, and the truths we know about the after the dagor dagorath, the ending was so peaceful and lovely. The inclusion of the dwarves as children of Eru Ilúvatar, the reconstruction of the lands of Arda, it’s so much more because of all that was suffered for and lost. The greatest pains bringing the greatest joys.

I was absolutely blown away by the book, and then I heard your version of it and was blown away once again. Great job.

We NEED to see an animation of The War of Wrath: From the north burning to Alcalagon toppling Thangorodrim with his corpse. A graphic novel even!

this isn't the first video made by you that I watch/listen, MAN you can talk, well narrated, coherent, no hmmm, not ahhhhh, no errrrrmm .... fluent, clear and very well a voice to sleep with all night and wake up really rested, BRAVO !!! And I mean it !! Keep up the good job ! (Also I subscribed)

I love that you Add quotes from the characters and put on a rendition of what you think they’re voice might sound like.. really brings the depiction to life .. I greatly appreciate your effort.

The War of the Ring is like the Football War (a small conflict that lasted only 6 days or so) and War of Wrath is like WW2.

@alexandernorman5337

3 жыл бұрын

The War of Wrath was a real world war. Everyone was in it. The War of the Ring wasn't that way. Not even all of Middle Earth was part of the fighting.

@kaank5921

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexandernorman5337 War of the Ring was more like the Franco-Prussian war, just between two main countries.

@RowdyBoy82

3 жыл бұрын

Are you ready for some football?

@rageagainstmyhatchet

3 жыл бұрын

Poor Elrond and Galadriel, looking out at the War of the Ring, thinking "Useless, they don't know they're born! Try fighting a war so big that the World collapses".

@andersonsmith979

3 жыл бұрын

Bearing in mind that "Legendary" Histories about "Legendary" Wars are often full of "Legends"*. One should take any such stories with a grain of salt. Even those within the framework of a fictional world. Herodotus, Founder of History in Western Civilization, claimed that Xerxes the Great of the Achaemenid Empire brought One Million Persian warriors and Allied Nations to the battle at Thermopylae, (That battle in the movie "300".), Simonides of Ceos alleged Three Million. Complete nonsense but it made for good reading and excellent story-telling back in Greece. Old stories are often expanded on over time into Great Epics. The greater the time, the more gilding of the lilly. The length of these wars also proves little vis-à-vis their relative significance. World War Two only lasted 6 years, whereas the Hundred Years War was over one hundred years, yet we all know which one caused the most carnage. Of course, The Hundred Years War was important to France as the end resolution of the fighting removed England and the Houses Plantagenet and Lancaster as usurpers to the French Throne-so Vive la France!-but not quite as significant as WWII. *Stuff and nonsense/Fiddle-faddle and rot.

Fantastic! What a great birthday gift to get this final of 3 parts! The idea of the Dagor Dagorath and what follows is actually quite intense and moved me to tears.

I didnt quite understand the monologue at the beginning of LotR Fellowship of the Ring until i watched your videos on the 1st Age a few times. Which was spoken by Galadriel. (I amar prestar aen.) The world is changed. (Han matho ne nen.) I feel it in the water. (Han mathon ned cae.) I feel it in the earth. (A han noston ned gwilith.) I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it. I now understand this first part of the intro monologue. Its a reference to the events of the 1st Age. Most would refer these words as Galadriel speaking as if the events of the 3rd Age had long passed into the 4th Age. After seeing your videos, its brought new insight for me and understanding. Lets break it down: The world has changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. - Refers to the world being forever changed by the sinking of Beleriand after the War of Wrath and Numenor in the 2nd Age into the ocean. She describes it as if the very nature of the world around her in Middle-Earth is affected by the loss of Beleriand and Numenor. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it - This refers to once great lands and kingdoms of Beleriand that represented the pentacle of Elvish society that was lost due to Morgoth and once again refers to the great height of man in the island Kingdom of Numenor that was lost due to the arrogance and jealous of man towards the Valar as well as corruption from within by Sauron the Deceiver. All who can remember these tragic events are either long dead having died in these events or died some years after. Take Feanor or Hurin or even Isildor for examples. Or even Glorfindel who was the only person to have fought down a Balrog at the Fall of Gondolin and died to only return back to life many many years later in the following age by the will of the Valar due to his great deeds. Making Glorfindel the one of only two to have been brought back to life after facing down, coincidentally, a Balrog of Morgoth. The other being Gandalf who brought down Durin's Bane in the 3rd Age in Moria.

This would've made a better series then Game of Thrones.

@aleclightwood721

3 жыл бұрын

INDEED.

@wilfredolopez9865

3 жыл бұрын

welp thanks to Amazon, it probably will be

@whentheyes4076

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@jonasspjuth

3 жыл бұрын

@@wilfredolopez9865 isent that one abote the second age ?

@eobardthawne19

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonasspjuth no

Earendil pleading for mercy for both men and elfes even after been hunted because of the Silmaril always touched me deeply. To see his father Elrond only had to look to the sky.

Thank Eru you are a fast worker, was hooked on the first video fearing it would take long to conclude. Great job!

In Tolkien lies the true definition of hope. One that I've never seen in other parts since I read the books, and one that we need more than ever now. With this final words on your video you made me cry, man. Wonderful.

"Man this Morgoth guy is a real jerk": Norm MacDonald.

@josephgibbs723

3 жыл бұрын

Norm macdonald is a comedic genius

@GerryBolger

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephgibbs723 He's a deeply closeted comedic genius.

@jakealter5504

3 жыл бұрын

Morgoth is the Middle Earth version of Satan, he’s the source of ALL EVIL in Middle Earth

@josephgibbs723

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakealter5504 ayyy kinda like Obama, amirite bois

@jakealter5504

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephgibbs723 no, more like trump

Thank you so much for the three parts to morgoth. I’ve watched the other two numerous times already and will watch this one as well. Such an interesting character. Thank you for putting the time in it.

Man the First Age is so depressing, I much prefer the Second Age where an entire island of people gets destroyed thanks to the greed of men, wait...

@Big_Double_The_Bear

3 жыл бұрын

:D

@anatoldenevers237

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize until reading the Silmarillion how dark and brutal some of Tolkien's work gets. All the ground in Middle Earth is drenched in the blood of tens of millions of people.

@santiagobarratt-boyes5558

Жыл бұрын

@@anatoldenevers237 yep nothing like real life…

Great job! That was a great mini series. I enjoyed it very much. I especially love that you use moving figures on maps to show movements of characters or hosts. It helps

the epicness of this events is barely handable..

finished watching part 2 an hour and a half ago. I'm very happy right now!

I'm hooked. I've always been a big Tolkien fan especially of the Silmarillion but damn, you make revisiting it so much fun

Desperately awaiting the Beren and Luthien video. I dont know, their love in an ancient time like the beginnings of the FA, seems magical to me. Like that period was thousands of years ago before the war of the ring, and you have people still acting and being the same in that dark time. I guess in our culture we read about ancient romances like these that occured thousands of years ago and think it was somehow different from today's courtship rituals.

bro, the voice acting is top notch!!

Great video. Just a quick note: Earendil was Halfelven not Elven when he was seven and left Gondolin. He veered on the side of Man, but eventually chose Elvenhood to sail round the sky for an eternity with the missus.

watched this Melkor's storyline several times. And it never get's old. How i wish there was a movie or a game, or anything to capture all the big battles and diffrent storys from this era of the storyline.

Amazing work. The quality is brilliant.

For anyone who loves both metal and Tolkien's works, i highly recommend Blind Guardian and specially their album "Nightfall In Middle Earth". Most songs there are about the stories from Silmarillion, with my favourites being "Noldor", "Curse Of Feanor", "A Dark Passage" and "Blood Tears". For example, since this a video about Morgoth, the song "A Dark Passage" is all about him, even quoting the curse he set with "With my eyes you'll see, with my ears you'll hear".

@Aleph3575

Жыл бұрын

That's my favorite song on the album lol. And the way the song ends with a marching beat and "Slowly Marching On" repeating over and over. I've heard that Blind Guardian hired Tolkien experts to ensure the songs were as loyal as possible to the source material.

Man, that Hurin - Melkor dialog was sick

You make Morgoth sound like the Emperor/Darth Sidious, and I love it.

The First Age makes LOTR look like a playground slap fight.

“But he that sows lies in the end shall not lack of a harvest, and soon he may rest from toil indeed, while others reap and sow in his stead.”

@chargingrhino5636

3 жыл бұрын

The first time I read that it gave me chills. It's a quote well worth committing to memory!

Wow. Really good!! Going in my Middle-Earth Hx playlist along with parts one and two.

Earendil coming in clutch honestly made me tear a bit.

@samsmith2635

Жыл бұрын

indeed and he was unmatched because he embodied selflessness

Love these videos, despite knowing the details and having read the stories, it still raises all the goosebumps. Thank you sir.

Man I wish you would do an entire book reading with your amazing voices

Can't wait for your video on Beren and Luthien

A friend recommended you after he forced me to watch lord of the rings and it was worth the trip

It's amazing how vast & well thought out the history of Arda is. Tolkien's work & world building puts all other to shame. Just imagine how many stories & books there would be if he had written about the contents of the silmarillion (I get why he didn't, but I've always been *way* more interested in all this rather than the fellowship story) (Also, Ancalagon is the greatest dragon to have ever lived in the history of everything. No other dragon in any story can ever compare to this BEAST)

@corneliusmaze-eye2459

2 жыл бұрын

What about the World Serpent from Norse mythology? He's a big boy

Morgoth is truly an awesome dark lord, and perhaps the greatest thing about him is his legacy, chief among which was Sauron. That anyone else could rise to the degree of malice he left on Middle Earth says scary things about both Melkor and Sauron.

I feel like this guy would be a great dungeon master for DnD

After watching some of these episodes one just begin to see the endlessly deep chazm that comprising Tolkien's works. It is truely mind boggling how vast and complex the story really is. Indeed, it is the best Fantasy to be ever written.

My God this is the greatest story that has every been told....

Been waiting for this gem since last video. 10/10 !

I love your choice of music! :-)

I knew all this because I've read Silmarillion a few times, but really enjoyed all the art you've used for the videos. Well done!

Your map really highlights the destruction and loss of land! What was there south of the map - did that sink too?

@NerdoftheRings

3 жыл бұрын

It was just that section. From what I’ve been able to gather, just Beleriand sinks, which is in the northwest of Middle-earth

Good Morgoth impression!

@MonkeyJedi99

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah... impression. (Don't send the balrogs at me!)

A massive amount of work went into all these books by Tolkien. A massive amount of work went into this videos and it was well worth it I just want to say thank you for an excellent job and a flawless narration.

I’ve been a somewhat kinda fan of lord of the rings but you have a way of bringing everything to life I can’t stop watching your videos

This series was friggin amazing. Thank you for this. I need to read the Silmarillion again

I'm digging your nerd channel, nerd.

I am watching these videos like crazy. My mind wouldnt collect all the info despite reading Silmarillion, but seeing the connections by your video makes everything easy for me. Thank you! Talking these with friends is so much fun and i'll definitely be prepared lol.

I absolutely love your videos! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into them. It's like a deep dive into the world of Tolkien and I feel like I am there!!

Incredible work and a true labor of love! Causal LotR fan, yet Im devouring your videos daily. Thanks so much and keep going!

This was amazing and sheads so much light on how bad the first ears was. The war with Sauron is like a small skirmish compared to this.

Can’t wait for a future video about Kings of the Valar and the bitter relationship with Melkor .

i have read Silmarilion several times, and i never saw the scope of the battles or the details surrounding them. and you not only bring the story to life, but fill it with visuals that manage to be equally informative and entertaining. I'm so grateful that you made it into a 3 parter, and that you finished with the end-times with the raising of the sunken lands and the last deed of the dwarves. Didn't know that was a thing even. Thank you so very much!

Silmarillion is not an easy book for everyone. Most of the casual readers will only read the Lord of the Rings or Hobbit which are the easy adventure books. Maybe this is the reason why we didn't get any movies, or games adaptations so far. For those who can handle to read this book it will give you a fantastic amounts of Middle-Earth lore. The War of Wrath was the biggest battle that has ended the first era, but Dagor Dagorath battle will be much bigger. If you want to catch a glimpse of it I recommend using a mod created by a fandom to The Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth 2 Dagor Dagorath mod which adds first era units to the game that includes hero units like Melkor or Ancalagon the Black (this dragon used to crash the game because he was too big for game engine to handle). For a veteran of this franchise this video did remind me of certain things, but it will be a big help for the newcomers. PS. The history of Túrin Turambar, and his wife Niënor is one of the most darkest stories in this franchise. Not only Melkor curse affected Turin himself, but it caused tragic events for his children and grandchildren (you can learn more if you read a book). So it's only natural that Turin is the only one that should deal a killing blow to Melkor.