At this rate push-pull setups for your M.2s will become the norm.

@TdrSld

Жыл бұрын

or straight adding to your water cooling loop

@dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791

Жыл бұрын

Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!

@fleurdewin7958

Жыл бұрын

PCI-e 5.0 SSD is hitting 11W at sustained write operations. So , it is a possibility. But likely the M.2 connector has to go because M.2 specs requires 3.3V at 2A. We're hitting 3A on PCI-e 4.0 SSD these days.

@Rentta

Жыл бұрын

@@TdrSld That's already a thing :D

@Darkknight512

Жыл бұрын

Phase change or bust.

Bought the (similar) copper one some time ago. The cooling is actually impressive with just a little bit of airflow from a nearby case fan. Installed it on the rear M.2 slot on an ITX motherboard, result was a good 20 to 24 degrees drop. The difficulty is mounting space & positioning so it can benefit from some airflow inside the case.

@vvb890

Жыл бұрын

Yea that’s exactly what I was thinking when he reviled the results of the last cooler. Seems to relies on air flow from either nearby case fan or gpu fans pulling air up.

@imnutrak130

Жыл бұрын

3d printed shroud could easily boost performance forcing back(top fans for VRM too) fan to suck air close to the M.2

I have a pair of m.2 AI accelerators that output 28 watts each at full load so the tower cooler would actually be a good option

@TheOriginalFaxon

Жыл бұрын

my first 80mm fan cooler was for an AMD duron that drew around 40 watts or something. A small little m.2 cooler this size would probably have done the job back then, given they came delidded. This looks quite promising for modern drives that keep increasing the power draw of the controller for more performance. Also wild to think that the controller on my drives is probably faster than that Duron as well xD, it was only like 750mhz or something and had way less cache xD edit: im half delirious rn with a cold and a ton of benadryl in me, shold clarify im talking about the 2nd cooler that was shown off, not the ROG one lol.

@flintfrommother3gaming

Жыл бұрын

May I ask? What's the software support for them? I have no experience with AI so I just wondered.

@interlace84

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOriginalFaxon Another Duron gamer 💪 I remember swapping it out for an athlon 850 that ran at a cool 1ghz literally.. remember when cpu's actually fried themselves at 95c instead of it being normal boosting temps?

@dylanherron3963

Жыл бұрын

@@interlace84 Was just about to say, my teen years were full of lawn-mowing/landscaping summers, followed by PC component upgrades a few weeks before school started back up, lol, year in, year out. Spent I think 550 USD and bought the AMD Athlon 64 X2 (The worlds first consumer grade dual-core! What an absolute fucking disaster of a product line) Same story as Linus Sebastian on that one. What an expensive, EXPENSIVE mistake, especially being 14 years old and having to work a couple months to make that kind of money, lmao. I remember when simply running hot would kill CPUs.

@highvis_supply

Жыл бұрын

@@flintfrommother3gaming basically all dedicated AI hardware requires you to convert a tensorflow/onnx/etc model to a hardware-specific variant and this is usually done with a proprietary software suite. I would like for more standardisation but the industry is still very young so it's hard to establish a more universal approach...

I'd like to see the copper one (JeYi) in a situation where it's using the down firing airflow from a GPU to provide additional cooling air (IE, its presumed intended use case.) I know the GPU will be providing warmer air, but it might be a fun surprise.

@ncohafmuta

Жыл бұрын

Hell, just in a standard case with and without a gpu would be a decent real-world test vs the bench

@MrKentaroMotoPI

Жыл бұрын

It's probably pronounced "Jay Yee". Yes, any forced convection airflow through the fin gaps should help a lot. They should have left the fin gaps open at the top to allow the air entry to the gaps from multiple angles.

@DiYei

Жыл бұрын

got it today, my temps are from 48°C to 56°C using my mobo stock cooler (Aorus b550m pro-p) that tbh is just a crappy heat trap, I'll let you know how well the Jeyi works, just give me a few days

Would love to see a light airflow version of the testing for the coolers that are clearly banking on the system having some airflow. Especially that Jeyi copper one. That was the cooler I was looking at using before I decided to just go full diy and go for a copper heatsink and mount it myself. (I have not done this yet.)

Honestly loving that tiny cpu tower cooler

I cannot believe how good these videos are. All this cheap/alternator AliExpress stuff is absolutely amazing. Definitely keep it a trend please. Maybe delve into other thing?!

Would be nice to see at least 1-2 cooler tests done in a normal enclosed tower(w gpu) to see 'real world' performance temps, then emulate the rest of the coolers numbers in chart. Thanks for the comparisons and sacrifices :D What is the wait time of aliexpress products?

M.2 Tree would be decent even without the fan, wouldn't it? You could try the Jayi Q80 as well. It has parallel to the longer side fins, and you can maybe add a random 4cm fan to improve whatever performance it has. Anyway, I think that any diy power led lamp enthusiast welcomes these small, but sometimes fair enough coolers. Of course I am talking about those solutions, which at least look like a usable heatsink.

@volvo09

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wouldn't even use the fan on that, i'd just leave it passive. No matter the orientation it'll get great airflow in a case.

That M.2 Three cooler should make one hell of a good passive cooler, if it can fit without blocking other PCIe slots without the fan. I think GPU fans should provide more than enough airflow for any modern SSD with that kind of overkill heat sink.

@mromutt

11 ай бұрын

I was thinking it looks great for a game server especially if you dont need a gpu in it.

@ppsarrakis

10 ай бұрын

that one lets me think if its ment for some kind Crypto mining useing m2 drives,i know there are cryptocoins that are beeing mined useing ssds already..

"Smallest CPU tower cooler" wait till he finds out about the Ice Tower coolers for Raspberry Pi, they're straight up cute!

JEYI makes also makes the "Snowpard M.2 cooler" which is very strange as it contains a M.2 PCB riser card which flips the orientation of the SSD. It also extends beyond the M.2 slot in both directions making it look like a motherboard mounted heatsink.

@-opus

Жыл бұрын

That would be interesting, having the m2 drive perpendicular to the motherboard seems almost logical if heat dissipation is becoming such an issue

Jiushark is the brand that made the JF13K 240mm topdown CPU cooler, they like humongous heatsinks everywhere. It would be a nice thing to review as well.

That silver vertical stack with heat pipes and fan cooler was cute as a button. It would probably work great on a Laptop CPU if anyone wanted to pull one out of a case and convert it into a desktop :P I don't know, maybe if you got gifted a laptop you didn't care much about and needed a backup PC or wanted to make some Frankenstein home media pc or lightweight gaming rig for the living room, etc.

@davidgunther8428

Жыл бұрын

It would work better on AMD'S 65W desktop processors. No idea how you'd get it to stay attached. Lol

This M.2 cooler video series, reminds me of the attempts to cool North and South bridge chipsets. Especially remember the ones that were "designed" for use with SLI and crossfire uses. 🤣

@krelakuma

Жыл бұрын

Yep I had an XFX 780 Tri Sli board, the chipset heatsink had a fan on it that rotated near 6000rpm, was awful

It's unfortunate you didn't point a case fan on them so I could see what kind of change would happen.

The tower cooler could cool my 3700X just fine. It's a 65W CPU.

@DigitalJedi

Жыл бұрын

Your 3700X is drawing over that quite often. It has a 65W TDP, but modern CPUs will exceed that TDP rating under load so long as there is thermal headroom. But yes, your CPU could run at TDP on that M.2 cooler.

@PREDATEURLT

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitalJedi AMDs 65W tdp cpus are allowed for 88W of actual electricity at best thermal and load conditions.

That M.2 Cooler with the heatsink fan is crazy lol...

I heard Derbauer knows a guy that knows a guy that makes thermal pads.

For the last cooler, oriented in a vertical way, the heat rise will create an airflow

Most of these cooler, specially the finned and tower-style ones will greatly benefit from O11 Type cases where air intake is usually on the bottom. At that point only clearance is probably an issue.

@piedpiper1172

Жыл бұрын

Fractal Torrent let’s gooo

Who remembers the Thermalright HR-05 northbridge chipset tower cooler ? 2007 era, single heatpipe , about the same size as this M.2 THREE unit. Great little ripper, I still own it.

Great job Roman, now I have to clean coffe from my laptop as I was laughing out loud :D

Yeah, Jeyi looks like it would get a big boost from the GPU intake fan with that tall fin stack. Gelid would be fine on a storage M.2 for looks, is my thoughts on it. As for the huge tower, you could put a pair of them into one of the MSI boards with the double SSDs in a row, to benefit also from bottom case fans maybe. But a bit overkill. Great review, as always. Also, I agree, the Jeyi was a gorgeous cooler, that polished copper and matte black was a piece of art.

One thing i see about each pc build is that hot air from gpu gets recycled back into fan intake and fins, so best it would be to have the shroud connected to a duct at the back or front without leaks.

Wonder how to get hold of the Juishark M.2-three cooler. Been after something like this as part of a mod for assisting against thermal throttling of mobile cpu for gaming. (Please don't judge and state the obvious. I know it's not practical for a laptop. But I have a unique use case.)

youtube timeline is broken on part 2(all after intro is 1 big part)

Have you tested chipset coolers? I see tons of southbridge/northbridge coolers online I would like a fan based cooling for some extra temperature relief. However I have no clue what is good and what is lets say not good.

The finnscold heatsink looks pretty sick, and I think they're thinking that if you put it right next to the GPU it might take advantage of intake airflow to the GPU. You're also missing a newline at the end of each Timestamp chapter thingy

i got a copper one with fins oriented facing the front intake fans and it has a small fan in front and blows air in between the copper fins to the back... gives decent cooling to my m.2 gen4

jonsbo has M.2-3 a low profile heatsink with diagonal wedges for good compatibility of airflows and decent metal mass for burst workloads, for double-side ssd and also comes with phase change heat pad.

The M.2-Three would probably work really well with a GPU fan in close proximity to it. You wouldn't even need to install the fan that shipped with it.

Happy Easter (bunny) to your cats!

Love the CPU cooling part with the m.2 cooler. I figured you'd do something like that when I saw the thumbnail. I got a kick out of the video.

In the next test benchmark it would be nice to see the M.2 Three performance without the fan in open bench vs closed real case. As it would be appealing to use it without the fan if the performance would be there with regular case airflow.

That m.2 tower cooler is better than some cpu cooler used in prebulid😂

@piedpiper1172

Жыл бұрын

In all fairness: Any part that actually functions at its intended job will outperform most prebuilt component counterparts.

Excellent video! but I really wanted to see the curve of that mini-tower mounted on the SSD without the mini-fan

I would like to see the JIUSHARK M.2 three tested without a fan!

Sometimes I think the failure of the cheap heat sink comes from the low-grade thermal transfer sticky pads they come with that may be simple foam tape. The heat is just not getting to the heat sinks proper. The tests should be tried with known-quality thermal pads too. I had a similar issue with cheap thermal paste. The good stuff made a huge difference.

My personal thought was always "is it possible to add a cooler to a laptop?" My original idea was "why not move the entire finstack to the back of the laptop and make that part of the chasis of the laptop very open?". That way any cooling pad or even any air movement thru there would be much better than the restrictive finstacks with small fans that we have in laptops today. Then I thought you could even add a USB fan (or more like a few in line) and use it as a "tilting of the laptop" and extra airflow. I think the MSI Titan does this to an extent. Maybe surface area ain't enough?

Have you tried the Alphacool m.2 liquid cooler? Alphacool HDX Pro Water - M.2 NVMe 2280 SSD - MCX Version

Surely the obvious thing to try with the mini CPU cooler was taking the fan off?

why didnt you do a test with a fan blowing on the coolers? you talk about at the end if there were some airflow they could have performed better, why not just get a crappy small fan to simulate some case airflow and see how that works?

Absolutely love these m.2 cooler roundups. Some are questionable, others are high performance beasts.

I've been thinking of replacing the cooler on my itx x570 aorus pro with one of these types of coolers from thermalright. The board by default has the little cooler fan blowing over the NVME and the chipset that sits underneath the NVME, but i dunno if replacing the cooler with this cooler will negatively affect the chipset.

The M.2 Three intrigues me. I would like to see it tested on a lower end CPU, like a Ryzen R5 7600, 5600, 5500, 3600 (all 65 W TDP) and see how well it cools them. The small size could work in an SFF or ITX build and if it works Ok on this sort of 6 C 12T CPU, it should be 'fine'. I would suggest zip ties to affix it.

Even if they are not throttling with no cooling it will increase the longevity of your drive. Heat is bad for SSDs. This is brilliant

I haver a full copper heatsink, it's a simple checkered square design, works well, but haven't done any comparisions as of yet

There is something wrong with the design if m2 drives need more cooling than just a heatsink and decent airflow.

@lemagreengreen

Жыл бұрын

It was just never designed with any of this in mind. Why U.2 did not become the standard for desktop PC's I do not know, using M.2 in the way it is used today just doesn't make a whole lot of sense in any platform other than laptops.

6:45 I bet lapping the CPU and the cooler could even more improve the cooling performance!

The RGB cooler remind me of a case Jay stumbled accross when troubleshooting a viewer PC. Long story short : The RGB on the SSD (2.5" one) was outputing so much heat that the disk would just overheat and stop working So even if the heatsink work, covering it with RGB doesn't seems that smart

I think the last one would benefit from a normal use case. I think the fin are oriented in that way because above there is the gpu fan pulling air between the fin. Not much because there is large gap between the gpu and the m.2 but i think it would perform better.

This is what Der Bauer listening to his intrusive thoughts looks like

Fun content! It would've been nice to see them in a closed case with some air flow, as pointed out in the video

I'm pretty curious to see the Jiushark with out a fan. It could be decent to have it near a gpu fan

I love gadgets like this, but still... "large quantity of metal draws heat. News at 11."

I remember having Northbridge cooler like this back in the day... innovation never change 😂😂

I don't understand how they expect these coolers to fit when GPUs sits right on top of the M.2 slot... very few motherboards actually have an M.2 slot ABOVE the GPU. But even then, the remaining M.2 slots are below the PCIe/GPU slot

wish you'd tried the tower m.2 cooer without the fan installed, that would stop it from blocking the slots next to it and it might still work really well

The M.2 three cooler would probably have been a good candidate to use as a passive drive cooler.

@mrlithium69

Жыл бұрын

a long time ago, I used to use a Thermalright HR-05 passively for my northbridge chipset. It stuck off the board so far, it reminded me of this one.

The M.2-Three (23) should include the Air Jordan logo since it's GOATed.

Hahahaha the cut to using the SSD cooler on the CPU. Absolute mad lad.

Please test JF13K 😊 That tower cooler would no doubt perform much better with a slightly larger fan that got some airflow over the pipes, and a clamping mechanism. Seriously considering it for my Mini-STX with x8 GT710 and NVMe to PCIe adapter. Still looking for something like a standard tower case but very smol to put it in.

I was wondering how the jiushark one would perform when only passive cooling without the fan? I mean its such a massive heatsink that it probably would perform pretty well without the fan

I think you need to reconsider some parts of your testing when it comes to these SSD coolers, the JeYi cooler looked like it would work a lot better if the mainboard was vertical, to aid convection airflow. I don't know how well that would apply to the other ones but that one seemed like it would benefit the most from a different orientation.

Jiushark M.2-Three M2 SSD Heat Sink without fan?

we need more m.2 coolers testing

Did the big cpu-style any other mobo thermals simultaneously? That would be interesting as they often over or under the GPU ect!

The changed logo font protects the manufacturer from lawsuits from ASUS =)

Hi man, great video. Is that an aorus master z790 mobo right? So no way to fit JIUSHARK M.2 three on the main m.2 slot (the one near main GPU slot)? I would like to use it to cool a gen 5 nvme

Rowan, did you use the M-11 or the EL-80P "Elecgear m.2 2280" heatsink?

I have mounted the last one on a 980 Pro with a 3M 8810 thermal "pad" in a B550 ITX with a NH-C14S on the CPU and with the same test, the M.2 doesn't go over 60° C with about 21° C ambient.

jeyi is actually quite famous and is the go to brand for ssd conversion kits(msata, mpcie, m2 b/m, sata, ultrabay)

Jeyi Finscold Q150 really cool, but have got design flows. Aluminum base and Copper fins aren't properly connected. I think after Gill Boyd video JEYI fixed a bit construction, but not sure. I think they just should invert construction - let copper fins touch thermal pad on SSD and aluminum base just close "sandwich".

GELID made great budget coolers back then. I remember running the Tranquillo on my 2500K back then, it was giant and 4.5Ghz daily was no problem, it was like 30 bucks. Then later on the Phatom Black dual tower cooler also great and was like 40 bucks.

the last one you tested is supposed to work with the fans on the gpu, as you place that m.2 right uncer the gpu

To be fair - you did crack the housing by the fan so maybe that is why it is making noises ??

Doesn't the lack of mounting space especially with an installed graphics card makes these almost redundant? My Gigabyte Aorus Master X570s mobo has 3 PCIe slots and 4 m.2 slots. The top m.2 slot (as per usual) is between the cpu cooler and the graphics card, there is some chance of an aftermarket cooler fitting in there. The 2nd and 3rd m.2 slots are under the graphics card, the included mobo cooler/low profile shield appears to be very very close to the graphics card, I would need to use feeler gauges to measure it. The 4th m.2 slot (which disables 2 sata connections) would have no issue with an aftermarket cooler. An add in m.2 quad card probably makes more sense for cooling, but then you need a free 16x pcie slot that does not conflict with your graphics card slot...

The Acidalie m.2 cooler is meant to perform well and looks well designed. The Sabrent Rocket m.2 cooler also tends to rate well.

I have two JEYI RGB Coolers on my SSDs. They don’t have the fine copper fins but more coarser Aluminum fins and some RGB on top. Very well made and the SSDs max out at around 50C.

Please test the Acidalie M.2 Heatsink. It’s usually regarded as one of the better, and cheaper, passive M.2 heatsinks.

The last cooler, seems to rely on gpu airflow as the fins seems to have airflow in the direction of the intake of the gpu fans if there was a gpu pulling fresh air upwards

Only a 2 heat pipe cooler with an 8cm fan haven for ~130-135W Xeon E5-1620 v1 in a Lenovo S30 by factory. At CPU full load is not silent, but solve the job without throttling. But that true of course, much EZr cooling down a 22nm chip.

Using an M.2 cooling solution to cool a 13-series Intel CPU. Whodda thunk it? I guess without throttling it should handle what, a 13100, maybe a 13400? Props to the team for making that strong an M.2 cooler!

NGL I'm gravitating towards Aliexpress stuff more and more lately because of pricing. They're like the new normal these days and gone are the days of super inferior stuff.

I love the way you go out of your way to buy the worst crap available and test it with a seriousness it in no way deserves. Better than retro-encabulators ;)

It would have been also interesting if you tested the M.2 Thee without the fan, so you could see the difference between that and the Finscold cooler.

It would have been interesting to see some airflow put on the last one.

I love the look of that copper one

Master, take a look at the barrow and barrowch m.2 coolers. The barrowch has even a version with an oled thermal monitor!

The cpu cooler one is awesome and would be great for those new gen5 ssds, even in a passive setup i imagine.

@dave6800

Жыл бұрын

They just dropped a much more reasonably sized new version, worse cooling ofc but that isn't saying much seeing how overkill this version is.

Just saw another Jiushark product on LTT channel. It is a CPU cooler with a flat profile with some decent cooling performance for the price. That company looks legit.

Hi Roman, if possible can you please test what happens if you populate all the m.2 slots on the motherboard and use the motherboard heat sink? As I'm curious to see if the issue of heatsoak is primarily on my setup or could be issue in the future with motherboards with multiple m.2s installed especially higher capacity gen 5 nvmes.

The big problem with using the top M2 slot is the SSD absorbs tons of GPU heat while gaming. Shouldn't be a big deal as you aren't doing an extended read/write, but it is noticeable.

I have an nvme just under the gpu, it will hit 83c but if i turn on the gpu fan 50 percent, the ssd lowers to 65c. Which is good and doest ghermal throttle. No heatsink needed.

Do i need to put heatsink at the back of my sn850x ? Planning to buy thin graphene adhesive cooler

The JEYI cooler would perform well I think ... motherboard is mostly vertical mounted, so the dissipation of heat would be a lot better then horizontal mounted, I think ... And I agree, it got the best looks !

The tower cooler is the one I most liked. Your use of it on the CPU is what sold me. TBH there are low profile coolers about the same size that would cool about as well. I prefer to use some of these when I can. If the intel stock cooler was beefed up a bit with more mass and/or fins they could be quite a reasonable design. I have an old one from Arctic Cooling that is a basic 'starfish' design that keeps my Ryzen 3600 under 80C all the time. I also use an even older AM3 design from them that keeps things nice under my load scenarios. It just depends on the case to be used.

It would be funny to compare the M.2 Three or even use it alongside with another cheap tower cooler like the Deep Cool Ice Edge Mini FS 2.0

Can't wait to hook up a 360mm aio to my m.2 in a couple of years