Greetings from Mongolia! Your previous video about Mongol language was spot on!

@namingisdifficult408

4 жыл бұрын

Hello from New York!

@frechjo

4 жыл бұрын

Hello from near your antipodes, in Patagonia Argentina :D

@jihangirastra3851

4 жыл бұрын

mini francis yes it’s pretty much the same, but Mongolian Cyrillic has some extra letters like ө,у

@miraxell

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ida-xe8pg thats correct.

@miraxell

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ida-xe8pg well, replaced our way of writing with Cyrillic which happened to be quite adaptive and adjustable for our language. But phonetically there are differences since they are different languages by their origins. For example as Bold-ochir mentioned we have extra made up letters such as ө and ү.

Agglutination, vowel harmony and no grammatical gender. These tongues may not be Uralic or Turkic, but the similarities are still fascinating!

@centralasia186

4 жыл бұрын

This is due to the fact that once the Korean Uralic Turkic and Mongolian languages ​​came from the same region and were neighbors. This is northern China, i.e. Manchuria.

@FairyCRat

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the Uralic languages originated in west/central Russia

@89Awww

4 жыл бұрын

@@centralasia186 Yes, some very powerful areal features and strata at play!

@centralasia186

4 жыл бұрын

@@FairyCRat The Ural genetic haplogroup N1 appeared on northern China. And then through Siberia it spread to the north-west. But the Uralic languages ​​are very ancient compared to Mongolian or Turkic.

@christopherellis2663

4 жыл бұрын

Skip the vowel harmony and you might be talking about Basque

As a - yes - Mongolist who has been living with and working on all this for quite some time, I want to say that there is nothing in this contribution I would feel the urge to complain about. Very well done, please keep up the good work.

@blankblank1284

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he does his research to make his videos as accurate as possible. Same with Langfocus, though he focuses on languages themselves rather than their glottochronological history.

I hope you are well. May some language love help you pass the time. Life was different when this narration was recorded. So will it be trees, waves or onions?

@stza16

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you are well too.

@Be-wilde

4 жыл бұрын

Much love

@jetwaffle1116

4 жыл бұрын

I’ll almost be fluent in Italian by the time this ends due to all of this free time!

@tagootuesday6521

4 жыл бұрын

You’re the man, love this channel

@mamymimma

4 жыл бұрын

@@jetwaffle1116 Buon lavoro😉

I have never, ever heard of a devoiced vowel before. That was confusing

@alicewyan

4 жыл бұрын

Japanese has them too!

@peterfireflylund

4 жыл бұрын

Alice Wyan so desu!

@r.m.pereira5958

4 жыл бұрын

European Portuguese has it. Some Uto-Aztecan languages too. It may happen due to vowel reduction.

@celtofcanaanesurix2245

4 жыл бұрын

Alice Wyan oh is that what those u’s are at the end of words like desu, I had a single year of Japanese in high school before switching to russian for the rest of my time, and always found that desu thing confusing.

@somedragontoslay2579

4 жыл бұрын

Also Central Mexican Spanish has them!

9:49 I knew it, Serbs were behind the Mongols after all!

@luizmatthew1019

4 жыл бұрын

mongolija je srbija

@Ida-xe8pg

4 жыл бұрын

Nje, Mongolja je Jugoslavije

@dunjam1194

4 жыл бұрын

Deretic was right all along!

@Halocon720

4 жыл бұрын

Chinggis Khan is proud to be a S E R B

@Ida-xe8pg

4 жыл бұрын

Bog je Serbin!

Сайн байна! Би буряад хэлэн һурганаб Hello to my mongolian brothers! I am learning Buryat language, I hope we will use it more often in Buryatia.

@Ida-xe8pg

3 жыл бұрын

WA WO WAWO WA WO JA

@leagalvidyte9863

3 жыл бұрын

I think I should learn it too! I currently live in the U.S. but it would be good to remember one of my family's languages there :)

@tuvshinkhantaishir3910

3 жыл бұрын

Buriad helee sain suraarai

@sergeykuzmichev8064

2 жыл бұрын

Круто, успехов 👍

@RandomBestEdits

Жыл бұрын

Mend amor

0:27 "I got _animated_ about..." I see what you did there.... I see it.

Also like onions, when you mess with Mongols, you cry.

@MDLuffy-oc8tr

4 жыл бұрын

Laughs in Mamluk...

@Innomenatus

4 жыл бұрын

Laughs in Japanese.

@huntgame2523

4 жыл бұрын

Almost all asians have Mongolian DNA. *GENGHIS KHAN ROFL*

@caileighgouthro1365

3 жыл бұрын

Can confirm...

@arare-principissaphocarum958

3 жыл бұрын

LAUGHS IN VIETNAMESE

"I get animated" Cute. Love the stories and the feeling you put behind them.

@blankblank1284

4 жыл бұрын

Makes it easier to learn if the person talking shows intrest or passion. College and University are annoying becuase teachers sound so disintrested and miserable that its hard to get engrossed. I love these youtube videos where the speakers sounds so enthralled by what he is talking about, and so excited to be able to share his knowledge with the world, that you just get so engrossed in the story he is telling. On the other hand most teachers show so little passion that students get bored and zone out, it becomes like a series of meaningless sounds and information that quickly leaves you're head. Making notes a neccisity as ypu would forget it otherwise as they put no effot into making it easy to remember, relying on rote memorization. If the teacher dosn't care about the subject, he can't expect his students to care. That is at least my take on the matter, on what the _modus operendi_ of teachers and teaching should be.

Why not a Mongolic tumbleweed? The branches are separate from each other, but they're also entangled and intertwined.

@voicelessglottalfricative6567

3 жыл бұрын

So Mongolic family is technically inbred

@PC_Simo

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense 🤔.

The "Cthulhu Association" welcomes its new member: Khalkh.

@andreaslind6338

4 жыл бұрын

Cthulhu ftagn just means "good morning" in Mongolian.

@blankblank1284

4 жыл бұрын

I prefer the original name for the "Cuthullu Mythos", that being "Yog-Sothothery". Which makes more sense as all things are one within Yog-Sothoth.

@m.kostoglod7949

4 жыл бұрын

@@andreaslind6338 no in mongolian it is Ögloniï ménd

@larsfrisk6658

4 жыл бұрын

@@m.kostoglod7949 they were joking

@PC_Simo

3 жыл бұрын

@Mr. Infinity I can’t help but feel there’s a connection to Finnish ”Hyvää huomenta.” Specifically between ”ménd” and ”huoMENTa”. I guess ’Sprachbund’ struck again. 😆

I'm currently learning Mongolian, and it really is a wonderful language. Also, I think you worry too much that if your videos are full of purely facts and examples they might get too dry, but I'm sure none of us mind.

@heavenly_girl

3 жыл бұрын

What's your mother tongue?

@qwxzy1265

3 жыл бұрын

me too! the only issue I'm facing is lack of motivation to learn it consistently, due to laziness 😅

@epewx6667

2 жыл бұрын

Laziness is not an issue, bcs I live in Mongolia and forced to learn mongolian.

@mansionbookerstudios9629

2 жыл бұрын

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@coffeecoffee2096

Жыл бұрын

​@@epewx6667 хөөрхий амьтан чи чаднаа

"One of the most common sounds in the world: /p/" يبكي بالعربية

@jawad9757

4 жыл бұрын

😄

@Just4Kixs

4 жыл бұрын

Haha poor Arabic!

@mrmimeisfunny

4 жыл бұрын

@Andrew Goering It was a joke.

@juch3

4 жыл бұрын

What about /dʒ/

@Ida-xe8pg

3 жыл бұрын

@@juch3 They have a [d͡ʒ] sound ج (Classicial) but it has different pronunciations in Maghreb and some of the levanti dialects [ʒ] and Egypt [g]

Nativlang, I hope someday you will make a video on Bantu noun classes.

@Bushwhacker-so4yk

4 жыл бұрын

Ekmal Sukarno Aren’t there, like, 25 of them?

@ekmalsukarno2302

4 жыл бұрын

Bushwhacker 1278 Regarding Bantu noun classes, I don't know how many of them there are.

@mansionbookerstudios9629

2 жыл бұрын

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Everytime I see that you've uploaded a new video, I get so hyped up! I never knew that learning about language could go farther than just learning how to communicate with others, and I'm totally here for it! Please continue making these videos, even if it takes awhile. I'll wait as long as it takes!

Thank you for sharing another excellent video with us! I hope you’re doing well. We love your content, and language.

I shared this link today with my SIL. I hope she enjoys this as much as I have. So much info in such a short video. Thank you. Always enjoy your new videos.

I'm really glad this less casual, more in-depth style of video is back! I got a bit nervous during the Georgian video and the first and to a lesser extent second episode of Mayan tenselessness that these vids were going to get more and more shallow as time went on. Keep up the good work, and hope things continue this way! Look forward to the wave model.

Whoohoo! One more video about our language. Thank you so much! You're helping us re-learn our history and language. :)

Love your videos. Whenever they pop up on my subscription list, they immediately get out at the very top of my to watch list.

This is one of my favourite videos that you've done. A lot of them, while interesting and entertaining, leave me generally unsatisfied and wanting more. The way you dug in and got into the nitty-gritty of the whole family and its history was excellent. I hope you do more videos like this.

@mansionbookerstudios9629

2 жыл бұрын

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Ah, I've missed your videos! Thank you for this awesome explanation of the layers of Mongolic

these videos are always an adventure, especially during times like these stay safe out there nativlang

Thank you for posting these informative animated videos. Quite interesting and useful knowledge. Thank you for your flexible, progressive approach in sharing this knowledge and thank you for sharing. Great video.

There are some weird similarities with Finnish. there is the difference between back and front vowels and the word kele in that old mongolian is kieli in finnish (meaning the same thing) edit: vowel harmony in old mongolic, finnish and ungarian which is kinda interesting 🤔🤔🤔 another edit: many noun cases in all 3 languages

@zsoltsandor3814

4 жыл бұрын

And with Hungarian too. Oh, and "blue" is "kék" in Hungarian.

@liv5645

4 жыл бұрын

Finnish and Hungarian are related, though quite distantly by now, they're both members of the Uralic languages, which are hypothesised to originate around, well, the Urals. Which is absolutely fascinating, because what's *also* incredibly similar is the Turkic family, including (obviously) Turkish, all are heavily agglutinative, with loads of cases and lots of derivational suffixes, vowel harmony systems... It's so wild how seemingly every language family from the Eurasian steppes seems to approach grammar in almost the same way

@ers4690

4 жыл бұрын

@@zsoltsandor3814 🇰🇿Kök / Gök🇹🇷 🇲🇳 köke / Ğöke 🇭🇺 kék 🇰🇿 Alma/Elma🇹🇷 🇲🇳. Alm 🇭🇺 Alma 🇰🇿Baatur/Batur🇹🇷 🇲🇳Bateer 🇭🇺Bátor 🇰🇿Saqal/Sakal🇹🇷 🇲🇳Soqol 🇭🇺Szakall 🇰🇿Sarı🇹🇷 🇲🇳Shar 🇭🇺Sárga The sounds is similar when saying these words.

@keptins

4 жыл бұрын

@@zsoltsandor3814 and Kök is blue / sky in (old) Turkic

@vazul666

4 жыл бұрын

@@ers4690 what would Alm and Zsakal mean? As a Hungarian, I do not recognize them. However, alma means apple, and sakál means jackal. Maybe you mixed them up?

I'd love to see you do a video on Dravidian languages, especially on Brahui the language used in Afghanistan and Balochistan which is Dravidian but is isolated and far away from South India

@shrekuwu259

4 жыл бұрын

OMG YES DRAVIDIAN LANGUAGES! I would love to see that as well!

@peterk.9571

4 жыл бұрын

Is that the language that might be a descendant of Harappan?

@deekshas3936

4 жыл бұрын

YES!!

@WealdaLupinus

3 жыл бұрын

@Master Yoda we know that Indus River valley descended into many civilisations, it probably gave birth to proto Dravidian. And then Tamil. But so many dialects of it descended many other languages. We find Kannada. A few old inscriptions. Proving the Dravidians were in the north. We know that Dravidians were the first migrators to India, they first arrived in ice age. Once the fall of the Harappan civilisation due to climate change, they went to other rivers. One of the rivers is suspected to be the Saraswati river that arrives in Hindu mythology. I theorise that the Dravidians documented, long enough for the Aryans to incorporate both the river and the prototype of lord Shiva. The Aryans included the god that the Dravidians prayed just to make them practice the new religion. Archeologists still wonder what caused the Dravidians to be pushed back to the south. Some say the Aryans were a fighting tribe.

@FirstLast-hz8ut

3 жыл бұрын

@@WealdaLupinus I mean, they’re is references where Indo-Aryans mention that they kicked out the Dasa’s out of Punjab. Maybe the Dasa’s were Dravidians? But the most likely theory is that Brahui migrated to modern day Pakistan in the 1000 because it lacks vocabulary from Avestan.

Yay! I like these in-depth language analyses, although the historical overviews of past videos were also quite cool, possibly even better than the in-depth-ness.

This is one of my favourite episodes to date! Amazing work!

I really enjoy your videos about the origins and connections of languages, Mongol as been a favorite of mine for a while now so this video is two times enjoyable!

fantastic to see you with regular uploads

Amazing video I look forward to every single post on this channel 10/10

I love how educational it is. I’d never heard much about these languages or even places until you made a video.

Yayy! This language family is super interesting. I'm glad you took a deeper dive into the whole thing. I'd love to see more videos like this about overarching language families and their origins and relations. Maybe a look into Altaic as a whole? Or the differences between Japonic and Koreanic languages?

Greetings from Mongolia! I love how you are studying Mongolian and revealing info that I, even as a Mongol, had not known before (I speak khalkha obviously). Keep up the good work!

Great, video. I really enjoy these longer, in depth videos.

The change from kaxan to kaan is interesting, because referencing from the Chinese poem, Ballet of Mulan, the word khan is 克汗, pronounced in Mandarin as "kehan" [kɤxan], Cantonese as "hakhon" [hɐk̚hɔn]. This linked up for me personally much more between the Chinese and English pronunciation.

Awesome, love these journey across the steppes. Would always love to see more.

Thank you. You are some kind of super hero when it comes to languages! I love all your videos. I would love if you did a video on Afrikaans, my mother tongue. It should be extremely easy for you, since it's not a complicated language derived from dutch and extremely similar to Belgian (Flaams). PS. Thanks for all the hard work you put in for these videos.

Awesome as ever! thanks for the knowledge and lang!

I love these videos! Keep up the good work, they're always fantastic!

Thanks for a such educational videos. Animations are so good too. Keep do what you doing man

great video, I would love to see more explorations of language families particularly those less commonly learned in the west, particularly I would love to hear more about a family you mentioned here, the Tungusic languages.

@user-mm8fh5ie1b

4 жыл бұрын

Why ? It's dead

@ahather

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-mm8fh5ie1b as far as I understand the Tungusic language family is not dead, there are at least a few still living if endangered Tungusic languages, admittedly according to Wikipedia, there are some 75,000 native speakers. as to why I think it would be intersting to learn about them, well, IDK gotta pick something

@jugdertemuujin4014

3 жыл бұрын

Where u r meet the tungusic people? They extinct in Russia and in China, they no more manchu and evenki can communicate in they native language! They assimilated by chinese and russians respectively that’s end of tungusic race.::....... :)

I love these in depth language family showcase videos, I love your content!

so exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is exactly what i needed

Among all other linguistic youtuber, NativLang is on a whole new level. He must be a PhD in linguistics.

I love this stuff so much! Thank you!

I've been hoping you'd do Mongolic - thank you! Excellent video :)

köke/xöx (meaning 'blue')... that's damn close to 'kék' in Hungarian, which shares the meaning and quite some in terms of proncounciation. Love watching your videos and on top finding out more and more about where we Hungarians may have been, hung out, came from, had possible interaction with. (And love the fact that I was the 1988th to like this video - it's my birth year).

@Genso326

3 жыл бұрын

actually you would be surprised to know how many similarities both languages have.

@xlarge7370

2 жыл бұрын

Valid for turkic branches too

i love your videos about different language families!!

Great video! I was very excited for wake up to this in my feed!

Finally a video about Finland

@Ida-xe8pg

4 жыл бұрын

No i think it was about Greece

@jugdertemuujin4014

3 жыл бұрын

Ты откуда знаеш ? Славянин? Много обших слов и выражений, построения предложения с венграми чем с финнами

@scottwilson8499

3 жыл бұрын

How original

@Genso326

3 жыл бұрын

@Kee R Видимо у них там в Финляндии это типо считается шуткой.

@PC_Simo

3 жыл бұрын

@Kee R The video was about Mongolic, yes; not Finland/Finnish; but genetically we are almost certainly more closely related to Mongols than Scandinavians, which we are all too often mistaken for. Still, not very closely at all, but that just goes to show you, how little relation we have to Scandinavians, or other Nordics. It’s like Estonians and Baltics; or Celtic and Turkic peoples. 🙂

These are always fun to watch. Thanks, stay healthy

I get so happy every time you post a video :)

A really interesting video! The Mongolic languages are ones you rarely, if ever get to hear about, so it's wonderful that you've taken the effort to present its features and history in so many videos. It's a fascinating family, how it's spread, and how Kalmyk still stays present, far, far for the Mongolic heartland.

@lt419

Жыл бұрын

Khalmyks are Oirat Mongolic people who had to been separated from the motherland Mongolia. They had to settle deep in Russian land due to a bitter and tragic historic event.

Great video NativLang! Appreciate it.

Amazing! Let's keep this going. More historical linguistics, please!

just more just gimme more of that brilliant content

I had no idea double declension was an actual phenomenon. That is incredibly cool, to think of all the possibilities it enables!

@tomrogue13

4 жыл бұрын

Add it to your conlang!

@Saturos02

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomrogue13 Already have ;)

@tomrogue13

4 жыл бұрын

@@Saturos02 awesome! I'm struggling with one declension lol

@BigLoloFrmDaO

2 жыл бұрын

RIP Golden Sun

Yayyyyyyyyyy finally a new video thank you for your hard work

youre doing gods work. keep on keeping on!!

Loved this episode. The Mongolic family seems so fascinating!

Well done. I forget most English parts of speech anyway, then you add new ones which evaded me somehow. Still, I love the topic, because it shows how tribes and nations moved around and impacted each other, rising and falling, yielding linguistic hegemony or at least allowing another language to alter their own - fascinating. We're so clearly wired off language, makes me almost sentimental.

Thank you for making this video:)

Fascinating. Please keep on.

Thank you for this. Awesome video. :)

A video idea (that I'm sure you've thought of / had suggested but here we go) - if you you were to assemble a language from the most elegant, expressive, and interesting parts of the many languages you've researched for your videos, what would that language sound like and what would its grammar and writing system look like?

Amazing, very informative, especially for fellow linguists

I love this stuff. Thanks!

Thanks. I was hoping for amore in depth look into grammar, vocabulary, and script.

Very cool, thanks NativLang

I’m waiting for the Tupian language family and how just one of its branches expanded and conquered all half of South America from Guyana to Uruguay, while the others divisions stayed mostly in the same area in the middle of the Amazon. Similar to Austronesian where there’s great diversity in minuscule Taiwan but one branch ventured out to Madagascar and Hawaii and New Zealand

I find linguistics fascinating but die to a lack of resources I can’t really explore my interest in it, you video help give me an avenue to explore my interest.

@NativLang I'm intrigued by Dagur, would love to see a video exploring the Dagur language in more depth.

Another fascinating and educational video. Well done! On another matter, would you consider doing a video on the different Tai languages (Thai dialects, Lao etc.) or alternatively the languages of Thailand, Laos and neighbouring countries?

I loved this new episode !

Heyyy i love your videos! Im learning so many things! Can you make a video about Greek Pontian Dialect?

"should we even be describing mongolic with the tree model?" *Deleuze and Guttari have entered the chat*

@22ChampagneSupernova

4 жыл бұрын

Y’all mind if I r h i z o m e

@littleolliebenjy

4 жыл бұрын

calypsis Who or what are Deleuze and Guttari? 🙂

@DerangedManiac12

4 жыл бұрын

@@littleolliebenjy a philosopher and psychoanalyst who proposed an alternative to the usual tree model of thinking, called a rhizome, where there is no clear start or end and instead just a mass of interconnected roots (like ginger root, for example)

@stephen0793

4 жыл бұрын

Dude I came here to say this! Rhizomes!!

@stephen0793

4 жыл бұрын

However, you spelled Guattari's name wrong!

I'd love you to expand on converbs!

I remember that you did a video about the Caucasus and how it's full of languages there, and I think Taiwan is pretty much as linguistically diverse when it comes to Austronesian languages, it'd be fantastic if you do a video about it

hey, i love your channel and it’s gotten me really interested in linguistics!! i was wondering if you’ve ever looked into norwegian in specific-the history behind the formation of its written forms and the hundreds of dialects is really interesting and i think you could have fun with the cultural debate about the difference in various consonant combinations :p

@mansionbookerstudios9629

2 жыл бұрын

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It's good to see something like this again. Thank you.

I enjoy watching your videos.

Loved it!

Last time I was this early everyone was speaking proto indo european

@edmind47

4 жыл бұрын

Quid iam?

@Rhiwwers

4 жыл бұрын

And Fenno-Uralic!

@servantofaeie1569

4 жыл бұрын

technically we still are, just a bunch of very late forms of it.

@servantofaeie1569

4 жыл бұрын

@@elsiesrifle yep.

@peterk.9571

4 жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early, Proto-Borean was only a DIALECT

Ohhhh the noises that are so common are all so pretty. I'd love to learn one of these dialects

Nice work!

Fascinating ! I love these videos of yours, please go on making them ! Now I'm practicing that suuuper weird L (I though icelandic had the weirdest one, but nope, there are more !)

@EmelieWaldken

4 жыл бұрын

PS. I'm on the onion side !

At the start of the day I thought I it would be a bad day, But when I saw this notification EVERYTHING got better

@luizfellipe3291

4 жыл бұрын

Sent you a hug from Brazil

Love your videos 👏

Mongolian here , i am so happy that you actually put so much effort to do this ! 😌

Excellent video!

i don't understand half of what you'r saying, yet i love it keep it up

It might have been an excellent document if you had added more descriptive examples displaying the features you pointed out!

Excellent speaker!

Totally rad! Thanks a million!

Great video, I would tend to argue for the wave model to replace trees generally, not just in this particular case. Languages with adjacency almost always bleed into each other with enough time, and "enough" is highly variable. It's really difficult to really categorize some languages when you're only allowed to have one "parent." English being the example most relevant to me, but it seems like the case here as well.

@blankblank1284

4 жыл бұрын

While I disagree with your statement I do say English is a very good example of the point you are trying to make. Considering the fact that we lost the majority of West Germanic inflection due to influence by North Germanic Speakers who invaded us. We also had many changes due to the Normans. Leading English to be barely reconizable as a West Germanic language. The closest related language being Frisian, which sounds nothing like English. Romanian would probably be another example due to heavy Slavic influence. ------------------ Why dont we use both models, Tree method it good for showing how languages are related, while wave is better at showing how they influenced eachother. Just becuase one is heavily influenced by somebody else, does not mean that they are no lomger related to their parents. A high degree of divergence does not change where one came from. Your Orgin is set, undeniable, unchangable, no matter where you end up the place you started would remain the same. Thus Tree is better at classification and showing relation / inheritance. As it is important to know exactly where a language originated, even if it is more closely akin to other languages unrelated to itself, due to either close proximity, loan words, or a full on Sprauchbund; we would still want to display where it came from. ------------ Sorry for rambeling, did not expect to go on for that long. Just wanted to get all my thoughts out (Well, I could go on longer, but this is a youtube comment, not a thesis).

@Great_Olaf5

4 жыл бұрын

@@blankblank1284 Well, I'll admit that a wave might not be the most effective, but trees need modification. A lot of language roots more closely resemble genealogical trees than what we currently use. You can absolutely narrow down to a point, but the branches go both forward and back, a web might be a more accurate term. Languages continually diverge and consolidate, and they do both simultaneously. Even as various regional dialects of Anglian, Saxon, and Jutnish merged together to form Anglo-Saxon, new regional differences emerged and some old ones were preserved. Another good example is the Franco-Germanic region; you can easily call French, German, Dutch, Frisian, etc. separate and distinct languages, but if you travel along the border regions, it's practically impossible to say where one begins and the other ends, the languages bleed into each other at the edges of the places where their speakers live. And that's not exclusive to languages in the same major family, I've heard (though I haven't looked into it as much) that you can see the exact same kind of gradual bleed in the Uralic languages of the Baltic states and Hungarian with their Indo-European neighbors, and the Semitic languages of the Middle East with *their* Indo-European neighbors. The Dravidian and Aryan languages of India. Hell, it's not even limited to land contact, Japonic and Koreanic languages share so many characteristics that it was thought they were related for a long time. So, while I don't particularly disagree with a lot of your points, I still feel that trees currently fail to capture the nuance of interrelations between languages adequately.

@blankblank1284

4 жыл бұрын

@@Great_Olaf5 Thats why I said we should use Trees along with another method. One to show relation, with another to show influence. Most languages have some degreepbleed, though French and German don't as French is Romance, subbranch of Italic. While German is descended from High German. Sub-Branch of West German, Sub-Branch of Germanic. They are too far apart from one another to undergo gradient blending. Though Trees do not show all the complexities of it, they do well to show where it came from, which does guve a general idea of its features, though in some cases, like English, this doesn't work. Though English still has a vast array of Old English vocabulary. Vocabulary is something that is always transfered downward, though it still would make new words overtime that would replace old ones. Basically they are still useful, even if they are incapabke of cathcing all of the nuances, they still are good at giving a general idea along with giving a very high degree of specificity and organization. ----------------- Any form of graph displaying how languages relate to one another would be a mess. At leats any 2-d Graph, as a 3-D Model Graph could use distance along Z in order to go to different families, and you can place relatives up the Y-Axis. So Y would display the Age that a language became its reconizable form. Like lets say The West Germanic Family is Z8 to Z14. With East Germanic being Z15 and North Germanic being Z1 to Z14. English would be like a Z8 or even a Z7. Though would have no lines drawn to it from other North Germanic Languages. With rather the line from Anglo-Frisian leading into (Z7, Y1066) I only came up with this at the top of my head, not sure how well it would actually work.

@blankblank1284

4 жыл бұрын

@@Great_Olaf5 Many similarities between Japonic-Ryukuan and Koreanic were due to two things, 1: Both Taking Loan Words from Chinese 2: Japanese Occupation of Korea Between 1910 and 1945 Japan Occupied and ruked over Korea. Causing a large degree of loan words to saturate their language. Though this influence had been happening long before, becoming expecially prominant after the Japan-Korea Treaty of 1876. Though it became massive during and after Japanese Rule and Occupation. Phonologically they are nothing alike whatsoever, Japonic-Ryukyuan Languages have such little similarity to Koreanic that I dont see how people thought they were related. I am not as knowledgable on Korean Grammer as I am Japanese Grammer, so I can't really say much about their similarity in those aspects. ------------------------------ I did at one point speculate that Japonic-Ryukuan and Austronesian were related, somewhat like how Indo-Aryan, and [Balto-Slavic, Italo-Celtic, Hellenic, Germanic] (The European Branch of Indo-European) are. Due to their Phonology, being largely open-syllable and being based on 2 - 3 Character Syllables, with a Consonant followed by one of a small array of vowels, allowing a Coda consonant, but only with certain consonants. Though their vocabulary has no proof of that claim. With there being little to no similarities in that category. They also aren't all that similar grammatically. I was a wee lad, just getting into the field of linguistics.

I love these videos!!!

yaaaaaaaaaaas! pls do more! would be nice if you set up a discord as well. I'm a sci-fi writer and I've been dabbling in conlangs, and for various plot reasons I need to make a mongol descendant con lang so I'd love some help on that since I'm an illustrator primarily. I make sci fi comics to be exact. And I wouldn't mind trading in my art skills for some con lang help.

It's interesting that "köke" meant blue in Mongolian. In Old Turkish, blue was "kök".

@UNKNOWN000247

4 жыл бұрын

In Hungarian it's Kék

@indranilbose9454

4 жыл бұрын

@@UNKNOWN000247 Heh Kekistan. The blue land

@m.kostoglod7949

4 жыл бұрын

Altaaaic

@ferretyluv

4 жыл бұрын

sara s You’re starting to see why Altaic was so popular.

@aslanfromnarnia339

4 жыл бұрын

Same in kazak tili "kók"