I can’t believe they found this 1500 year old video of this Mongol shock trooper putting his armor on

@nestorgamer9746

Жыл бұрын

On colour no less

@jameswilliams3581

Жыл бұрын

Early fashion influencer. 😂

@raowraow3312

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the likes guys, I guess the internet is just about making shitty jokes until 1 is actually funny

@pokeyscorpion8224

Жыл бұрын

@@raowraow3312Yeah that’s a good way to sum it up

@thenamesianna

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe the Mongols invented cameras 1500s years ago.

The fact that after he said piercing and slashing damage and didn’t round it out with bludgeoning made the DM in my heart sad

@emiruysal507

Жыл бұрын

Right? I already said "bludgeoning" in my head and when he said blunt it was like a reality dissonance

@benjaminholcomb9478

Жыл бұрын

I three experienced this

@local_therapist8637

Жыл бұрын

Cringe

@thatcrazyguyeveryonelikes4197

Жыл бұрын

​@@emiruysal507Didnthe exact same thing. Already said bludgeoning and then my heart sank when I heard blunt.

@Blue-Pheonix455

Жыл бұрын

The dnd player in me was a bit confused when it wasnt bludgeoning

In addition to being rather simple to make and maintain, lamellar armour also provided a good range of motion compared to something like scale armour. And good mobility was definitely important to the mongols since they mostly fought horseback. In Asia, lamellar armour ended up becoming more popular than scale armour specifically because it was much less restrictive to the user's movement.

@kompatybilijny9348

Жыл бұрын

Scale armour? That thing is pretty much non-existent. Europe used mail.

@killerkraut9179

Жыл бұрын

@@kompatybilijny9348 In historical artwork it seen often!

@kompatybilijny9348

Жыл бұрын

@@killerkraut9179 To be completely honest, most depctions resemble lamellar more than scale.

@-nvmanyhow1436

Жыл бұрын

@@kompatybilijny9348 I'm talking more about Asia where scale armour was, in fact, widely used. But Europe definitely used scale armour too - it was used throughout medieval times and before (romans, byzantines). The thing is it was mainly used to *augment* other types armour, mainly mail armour but also plate armour. For example, scale cuirass over mail, scale pauldrons, faulds and aventails. Scale, although less flexible than mail, provided more protection against piercing and blunt attacks. So it was good for some extra protection in areas that were more vulnerable and/or more likely to get hit. Also, dude, like there is archaeological evidence of scale armour. We KNOW it was used. And while scale and lamellar are indeed *similar,* they are not the same.

@kompatybilijny9348

Жыл бұрын

@@-nvmanyhow1436 I know that, but I was pointing out that it was very rare to see, simply because it was hard to prduce and repair.

Jack of all trades, master of none is often better than a master of one.

@QWERTY-gp8fd

Жыл бұрын

because in battle there is never a one thing

@nichopyro

Жыл бұрын

@@QWERTY-gp8fd I mean there is ONE constant in war, but thats typically WHY you wear armor to begin with right?

@QWERTY-gp8fd

Жыл бұрын

@@nichopyro no shit

@vhaelen326

Жыл бұрын

a good 'jack of all trades' can turn (some of) their weaknesses into strength's, imo lamellars lower durability is actually an upside, the deformation of the plates under enough force woudl absorb alot of that force, much like modern balistic plates that break uppon impact to remove most of the kinetic energy. and because of the easy design of the lamellar you dont need a specialist to fix it, nor do you need and tools, just some replacement plates and some kind of string, and even IF the damage from something like a mace or a warhammer is enough to kill or incapacitate the wearer, it will still have at most damaged a hand full of plates which can still be repaired and handed of to the next guy, unlike something like a full plate chestplate, if you break that its broken for good, there is no easy repair after battle, you need a blacksmith and even then its probably easier to start over with a fresh chestplate then try and repair a broken one

@allsoover

Жыл бұрын

@@QWERTY-gp8fd so, there is a one thing then?

Don't forget the silk undershirts they would wear. Silk can be woven tighter than a lot of regular clothing, so it can offer a slightly better level of protection

@lordzaboem

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I was going to mention this. I would argue that the silk layer is a key component of Mongolian armor.

@schaddenkorp6977

Жыл бұрын

@@lordzaboem Supposedly also makes it easier to remove an arrow or spear tip from a wound.

@borismuller86

Жыл бұрын

Also lovely and soft 😊

@capyrika

Жыл бұрын

This is already debunked. Silk was mad expensive and definitely did not provide any protection against weapons as the myth suggests. I'm not saying no Mongols ever wore silk to battle, but it was rare and they most definitely did not wear it for protection against weapons.

@capyrika

Жыл бұрын

@@schaddenkorp6977 This is a myth, an arrow will most definitely pierce through silk. While it is true that wearing many layers will naturally increase protection, any other fabric should do the job.

They invented drip got dam

@robertharris6092

Жыл бұрын

Lorica segmentata makes this look like some supreme shit.

@Eliphas_

Жыл бұрын

@@robertharris6092It does not

@krosskreut3463

Жыл бұрын

​@@robertharris6092nah, lamelar like byzantine ones are peak , and mongolian was amazing

@zeppkfw

Жыл бұрын

on god they did. Especially those last shots damn

@rodrigovaccari7547

Жыл бұрын

@@robertharris6092 the difference is that a significant part of the legionaries would be wearing segmentata while a minority of mongols even had metal armor..

One thing the blacksmith I know (he made knives, mostly) said is that it's 'better to have things that break but easy to fix'. I think the same applies here too. The protection might not be the best but it gets the job done. And you can maintain it easily too

@vhaelen326

Жыл бұрын

agreed, plus the deformation of the individual plates should absorb alot of the energy meaning they are somewhat similiar to modern day balistic plates made from ceramics which are designed to break upon impact to absorb the energy of the bullet

@KoflerDavid

Жыл бұрын

​​@@vhaelen326a lot depends on the properties of the strings between the plates though. They must not tear or stretch, allowing the weapon to push the platelet aside. Yes, that somewhat affects the momentum of the weapon, but it's still gonna cause piercing damage.

@vhaelen326

Жыл бұрын

@@KoflerDavid im not talking about pushing the plates aside im talking about bending the plates and or piercing it, and as i said it still very much absorbs alot of energy, imagine a glass pane, and you throw a rock into it, the glass shatters and the rock drops virtually on the spot because most of the energy gets absorbed by the glass breaking, or look at a newtons cradle, they are an example of what happens when something that doesnt deform absorbs energy, smashing two eggs together is a show of what happens when something that does deform/shatter absorbs energy, two eggs hit each other but it will never break both (unless you do it at such speeds that even the tiniest egg shell pieces have enough energy to crack the other egg, but then its not really the egg breaking the other egg its the shrapnell breaking the other egg)

@topibundar9554

Жыл бұрын

Less protection but more high agility, saving stamina, and easy to fix is definitely worth in battle

Always loved the look and flexibility of steppe lamellar. It literally is "It just works."

@voster77hh

Жыл бұрын

Compared to plate armour out of hardenend steel it is way bulkier. So way more exhausting to wear and fight in. That is a matter of advanced metallurgy to raise steel quality via coal mines and iron ore mining tech advances. Stuff Mongols had no access to and largely used bog iron and charcoal. Chainmail and scale is as far as you can get on that dirty raw ore material and lower heat from biomass charcoal vs mined fossil black coal.

@BioHunter1990

Жыл бұрын

@@voster77hh I agree. I’m not blind to the metallurgy. It’s interesting, because any lamellar made today with steel is far better then then. Though, remember that because of its construction, lamellar armor can be made of many materials. A long time ago I saw a sample of lames made from whale bone. And across Medieval warfare…armor made from non-metals had far greater potential then we’re used to thinking. Because of the small size and simple construction, lames can be made of many things. Damaged lakes can be replaced with other materials. Flexibility is phenomenal fir that.

@voster77hh

Жыл бұрын

@@BioHunter1990 What goes for the hardening of armor goes for the hardening of blades, points and tools. Bronze would work well for Bronze blades and tips. Flintstone is fairly brittele. So bark laminated with bone glue or resin would likely stop it. Leather or bone would be extremely time consuming materials that would better be used in broader strips or harness type suits. The real deal with lamellar is casting a lot of the same piece. Likely the holes were in the cast already. If you look at Viking shields there is intersting find & documentary. The progression from framed hide shields to laminated bark and wood consuming a lot of glue. You really get i to how much labor can be drawn out of agriculture to process raw materials, experiment and make stuff. Bone glue and leather are arduous stuff to make. Flax string and wood is fairly easy to use for anyone. However any bronze would likely pierce or chop through it. Basically sharp pointy objects give an advantage to less muscled people against brutes. Especially ranged ones like arrows. It made sense for people to dedicate times on balancing ideas to keep community stock levels up for next winters starvation period. In my eyes you improve both at the same time - weapon & armor material. That's an engineers view on Vickers hardness and elasticity of materials, where flint is sharp, hard and brittle. The stone age stuff used well into medieval times that is perfect for arrow heads. Wood material would quickly dry & crack. Not sure what tools are needed to make useful slices out of bone. How time efficient that would be. If you had iron or steel tools you would need tools already from another level stage on the armor/weapons balance. Tools hardness metallurgy is the big enabler of everything and always has or will be. It unlocks working a certain material into a useful object. You need a flint to chop and sharpen a flint. You need a hard bone to work another bone or use a way harder flint tool on it. Eventually thick hide would do a similar or better job to bone in a time & material balance. Chances for archeological find are scarce. Only those native american bone harness come to mind that I considered largely ceremonial. At some point a faster unencumbered fighter performs better. You need a specific formation shock troop over a fast & nimble guerilla. Logistics come into play when guards defend an immobile winter stockpile of an agricultural settlement. Mongol elite shock troops used fairly heavy armor as long range fast nomadic raiders. People that traditionally travel & live lightly. Many weak materials armor would only serve as ballast. Unless we consider a Brigandine or a Linothorax or reinforced leather clothing. The real deal with armor is stationary guards, formations and sieges. Armor makes running impossible. So in any out-of-town ambush decently fighting people would just harass and outmaneuver you. It requires an insane logistics trail of light armor to field heavy cavalry. You need to solve being harassed first to be on the useful side of the mobility, armor & firepower side of that engineering triangle. Even on the wood & bone material stage of half-naked natives.

I've always loved the look of lamellar armor.

@schaddenkorp6977

Жыл бұрын

Ditto poohbear.

@vhaelen326

Жыл бұрын

same, which is why i recently started on my own suit, the chest piece is virtually finished, its great to have/make functional armor that doesnt require skill, time or specialized tools

@Bl4ckD0g

Жыл бұрын

@@vhaelen326 nice, hopefully I can get the time to do something similar sometime.

@zennoix9984

Жыл бұрын

I like brigandine armor and plate armor

@Bl4ckD0g

Жыл бұрын

@@zennoix9984 brigandine is another favorite of mine for sure.

The durability problem might not be an issue too much since you aren't really fighting 24/7. My suggestion may be that they repaired it in downtime. and since it's segmented plate, you just replace the plate

@fablesguykol3025

Жыл бұрын

At first I was thinking how that'd be a pain in the ass to replace and relace each plate afterwards but if you had a dedicated armourer on standby (which Mongols probably would have) it'd be fairly easy to always have fresh hands and materials at rhe ready.

@bravomike4734

Жыл бұрын

Problem wouldn't be replacing the plates imo but the strings being damaged and coming undone. Then the armour splits and iron plates are unwoven and spreads in every direction. That's gotta be a pain in the ass to collect and rebind from ground zero.

@davidtitanium22

Жыл бұрын

it looks like a pain, but if you think about it another way, repairing this seems like something ANYONE can do with a bit of training (like how to tie the knots), without any specialized tools, compared to something like chainmail

@zerophoenix8312

Жыл бұрын

It’s much easier when you compare it with chainmail, lamellar doesn’t require a full set of metal working tools to repair.

@william3791

Жыл бұрын

like I bet its easier to replace some small plates and tieing it together rather than fixing a heavily dent plate armor.

Lamellar was prevalent in Asia for a variety of reasons but one is that archery was very common and such types of armors are especially effective against arrows and offered good flexibility

@DBT1007

Жыл бұрын

Bro. Stop using "asia" word just for "east asia". Just call it "EAST ASIA" or "CHINESE" or "CHINESE REGION" or something. Depends on your context. ASIA IS HUGE DIVERSE SOCIETIES. Asian is not just chinese. Arab, malay, turk, indian, etc are also ASIANS. And, originally, "asia" word is a name for the western asia part of Turkiye's territory back in the roman era. It's not even for the "region of chinese people" 😅 Just stop, please. It's like calling all African dark skinned 😅. Even though north african are light skinned people. Or.. thinking European foods are all bland because you just tasted british or scandinavian food. Even though the southern European dish is much flavorful.

@aethelon4144

Жыл бұрын

​@@DBT1007 But Lamellar armour was used from China to Turkiye and even parts of eastern europe... Not to mention the mongol empire in which the video depicts an armour from spans from the pacific ocean to the Danube and the Euphrates rivers. So they aren't exactly wrong when they said that it was widely used in asia

@CrnaStrela

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm pretty sure Lamellar armor or its variety being used in majority of asia including arab, east asia, turkey, and even part of south east asia. So he's not wrong, it was prevalent in Asia and not only in East Asia.

@dylannecros3636

Жыл бұрын

​@@DBT1007such a huge rant over someone still being correct.

@baranjan6969

Жыл бұрын

​@@DBT1007 -"Entire Mongol empire used it" -"Just call it China" ...

I thought he already look badass but after that mask, he got even more badass

@zeppkfw

Жыл бұрын

you can understand where the horrifying stories of mongols come from

@Jake-dh9qk

Жыл бұрын

@@zeppkfw The mask was actually used by the Chinese and adopted by mongols

@MatthewNguyen-zx3de

14 күн бұрын

Unfortunately the mask isn't historical. Granted they had something else.

Natives of N America did the same with wood. Incredible stuff

@voster77hh

Жыл бұрын

true. The concept biomimics reptiles. Not so had to imagine in places where they do occur. Such scale armor stuff was around with Assyrians etc. in biblical times too. The real deal is the metallurgy from bronze and brass to iron and steel. You need to dig enough spare time for putting people on the job removed away from agriculture.

@brucegilbert625

Жыл бұрын

Which ones?

@LOL-zu1zr

Жыл бұрын

@@voster77hhscale armor was invented by Scythians most likely at least They can just trade or rob the iron but most military innovations in history were made by nomads.

I love the Lamallar in Banner Lord. Looks awesome.

Lamellar armor is by far my favorite when playing as the Khuzait in Mount&Blade II: Bannerlord. They are essentially Mongol.

@MonteKowalsky

Жыл бұрын

That Khuzait heavy cav is no joke!

The plus-side to lamellar is that it breathes pretty well and the plates and cord can easily be replaced.

I'd think the weight and the heat build-up would have been the major weaknesses of this armor. Though speaking as a cosplayer just getting in and out of that level of armor can be quite a pain.

@topogigio7031

Жыл бұрын

also, used in Mongolia, not Miami.

@Grey_Shard

Жыл бұрын

@@topogigio7031 you've never worn full coverage armor, have you?

@Grove122

Жыл бұрын

@@topogigio7031the Mongolians used the armor from china to the deserts of the Middle East and the fields of Europe. Its not only mongolia

@william3791

Жыл бұрын

​@@topogigio7031if it can reach midle east it can survive miami dude

@schaddenkorp6977

Жыл бұрын

@@william3791 yeah but those places listed tend to be not all too humid unlike the devil’s steaming ass crack that is Florida all year round.

Absolutely my favorite armor from history, and always the one i use in mount and blade lol

Can we just appreciate the cameraman for going back in time to record a Mongol wearing armour

Lamellar is also a very general term. You can get wildly different styles and materials

It's also relatively heavy

@patrickbueno3279

Жыл бұрын

not much of a problem if you have a horse, than if you are on foot.

@imissyou0423

9 ай бұрын

​@@patrickbueno3279it depends on horse breeds

Amazing how these things are simultaneously great technological solutions for their contexts and incredibly artisanally crafted pieces.

In those eras your armor was a symbol of your rank, experience, and wealth. Every suit of armor was painstakingly made by or built specifically for the wearer.

You know all this armor stuffs really makes me want to play Mount&Blade again.

Honestly if we were still making lamellar armor they could improve it's durability with a stitch locking pattern. I was reading about medical sutures and the nice thing about a stich locking pattern even if one stich gets cut the rest will resist coming loose. At the end of the day you're at the mercy of material work fatigue but still it could definitely improve it's durability.

@vn0688

11 ай бұрын

Funny story... the military infantry standard is interceptor armor plating. It's the armor system we see all the time where you have a vest with a thick ceramic plate insert put over the chest and sometimes the back and sides. There was a push to change from interceptor to dragonskin some 15 years ago, which was medieval style segmented plates overlaid and integrated into a specially designed Fiberglass vest. Unfortunately producing a direct competitor to the biggest armor tech contractor leads to some pretty hostile conflicts... the manufacturers of the interceptor system just so turns out to have been the ones responsible for testing the efficacy of the armor and thus, tested the protection of an individual plate exactly like they would test normal full plate protection... The dragon skin system was failed because individual scales couldn't withstand a direct head on shot while secured to a testing platform like standard interceptor, despite the advantage of dragonscale coming from the plates being mounted to recieve impacts at an angle, and being able to disperse the impact across multiple overlapping plates and the fiberglass vest. Because they were able to control the testing parameters, dragonskin was not able to be field tested and thus, were starved for funding. They eventually went defunct. But it was an intriguing story while it was happening.

@allstarwoo4

11 ай бұрын

@@vn0688 don't get my wrong the military industrial complex is absolutely corrupt but I heard the dragon skin had other problems. Adhesives not handling the heat well. Repeated strikes to the same area(although unlikely) will fail. To a bullet sometimes slipping through a gap in the armor. I like the idea, just it wasn't very practical.Ivebheard that people are trying to revitalize the project though

@vn0688

11 ай бұрын

@@allstarwoo4 the logic behind its advantages had more than justified its apparent drawbacks. To me, the adhesive failures were overblown since theyd designed the plates to be swappable in the vest, so plates with excess stress could be replaced with fresh ones much cheaper than entire ceramic interceptor plates, and youd certainly be able to engineer more efficient manufacturing methods. Disregarding the entire concept over a simple issue like that especially in its prototype alpha stages just seemed premature to me... And of course a smaller thinner plate would be easier to force into failure than a large plate because of the difference in mass... the point now is moot, because one isnt even in production anymore. Im glad to hear its being revisited tho.

@allstarwoo4

11 ай бұрын

@@vn0688 the execution of the product isn't or wasn't very good. Theoretically you could replace a scale but it wasn't practical and you'd be better off just replacing the entire plate. Admittedly the adhesive problem I think could've easily been overcome but I think it comes down to KISS. The production and maintenance of dragon scale made it more expensive to replace. Dragon scale you have to produce ceramic disk, coat them in anti spawling, adhere them to kevlar and do 2 layers with top layer to protect the kevlar from UV. VS a plate where you produce a plate, coat it in anti spawling and you're done. It doesn't make logistical sense to invest that much more in marginal upgrade in armor. And it is marginal because what happens if someone get shoot with a vest they usually go for a medical assessment because guess what you just took a bullet to the chest and now we need to check for cracked ribs. At which point you're more than likely to get a new plate.

@vn0688

11 ай бұрын

@@allstarwoo4 fair. The selling point was that dragon skin would be able to provide even, flexible, and consistent protection across more of the body than the interceptor system, which admittedly has its strong points for sure, but it has obvious gaps because it prioritizes covering the vital organs. Dragonscale offered theoretically improved comfort and ease of use, better coverage, and less waste. Yes the higher cost of Manufacture of all the scales necessary to fully armor up and assemble the system is a factor, but you'd also only need to replace a few small damaged plates rather than an entire interceptor plate even if the majority of the plate might be intact. The integrity of the entire plate is compromised where a small scale would be unlikely to be struck again, and a small plate or two would be far cheaper to replace between engagements. The only question up in the air is how convenient it would be to inspect, remove, and resecure scales, vs the interceptor plate swap.

Me seeing this armour after a no stopping run of ghost of Tsushima

This kind of armor is so versatile at protecting such a range of threats that civilizations across the planet developed the same style without (likely) having come in contact with another

Always thought of it this way. A knife can stab thru a thin sheet of steel but fail to pierce a phone book. Layers to your armor has that effect. Essentially absorbing more with each layer. Great armor is like an onion. If you leave them out in the sun they get brown and start sprouting little white hairs

This kind of armor is why i started getting fascinated with the Mongolian Artifacts you can collect in Ghost of Tsushima. They dont even give you a completion bonus but i wanted them anyway because it was fascinating to learn about.

wow that’s very beautiful

Lamellar really has impressive potential. It's the Byzantine empire's go to armour scheme. Though I can't find it in Wikipedia right now but one Roman emperor was able to tank over a dozen spear thrusts and make it alive.

Well I feel like fear is a better tool than high functionality. Imagine these armored up shock troopers running into battle, especially with those masks on

Visby plate - also very good at raiding from ships on shores combined with chainmail. Not only for horses or Mongols. Also to put up some Viking shock troops.

Another favorite of mine from Mount and Blade Warband. God I love that game

What was also great about this armor is that is was extremely recyclable due to the little plates being individual pieces. You could theoretically take the broken ones out if you had the time and replace them after, or just scrap the entire thing for parts. Since the little plates were easy to make, you could mass produce them far easier than any plate armor

The most important thing to mention about the armor itself is the benefit of mobility!!! The entire army was built around the idea of being mobile 🎉

Tang dynasty origin, same with japanese armor. Chain linkage mail is something they pickup from eu/middle east.

What more fascination is the first soldier to wear iron armor at the end of the bronze age. What a Game changer!!!

I do some SCA armored fighting, and this style is really popular (I think the later image where it's a simpler chest piece might even be SCA armor haha). Compared to a breastplate or other armor the flexibility is very useful, and they still absorb blows really well.

@skyknight1281

11 ай бұрын

Yea, about as common as pajama Viking kits.

I like how he says "OOOHHHH!!" As if someons suddenly put the video footage infront of him by chance and it was completely spontaneous and totally not pre-planned.

In the military, it doesn’t have to be pretty, or work great necessarily: It just needs to work good, and be as flexible as rubber fresh from the tree.

Steppes people always had the most cool looking armor. Also, you can clearly see the mongol influence on slavic equipment.

You forgot the 4th type of damage, magical damage, but since the mongols fought exclusively against muggles they didn't need that kind of protection

Another thing that made lamellar very useful was if the plates were damaged instead of the normal get new armor because there is a hole you unlinked the plates and replaced the broken ones so it was cheap to fix as well (damn Cumans, Mongols, and Chinese with their cheap useful as hell armor)

A armor is not just for protection its also a moral Boost

Remember, seeing someone make one of those Mongolian armor plates by hand by themselves it took them over a year because they had other projects in hand as well and it takes a master craftsman to complete it without losing their mind

I want this shit in a zombie apocalypse

Lamellar armour, especially the iron variety is your best option when sourcing your iron is difficult, and not the right type of iron, steel that can be hammer forged in single piece armor like breastplates. This is the same reason why “samurai” armour is made of many pieces and why the “katana” was made the way it was. You can see that as soon as the civilizations got acces to better iron in higher quantities they adopted different smithing techniques, and at the same time also adopted more western types of armour and arms. Later on whole loads of pre-manufactured blades where imported into Asia, from example “Germany”(not a single state back then) and the British Empire.

A jack of all trades is best at none, but always better than a master of one

I’ve always figured something akin to that with modern ballistic armour technology would be next level. There’s a company out there founded by a former delta member that makes steel plates coated in Kevlar that can take repeated hits quite well while absorbing the spall and shrapnel with the Kevlar. I imagine a thicker version of that in smaller plates would be a really effective modern version of shock troop armour. For those curious it is Predator Armour and the stuff is honestly next level I am really surprised no big channels have covered it. I’m going to add an edit here as I’m sure someone’s going to mention it. Ceramic armour is an option problem with ceramic is that after a round or two for what’s its rated for it’s usually completely or otherwise compromised. It’s why in a scenario where I either must take repeated hits or cannot guarantee a replacement plate after getting hit especially in a scenario where getting such supplies are impossible. I’d rather take a ballistic steel plate and wrap it up in thick Kevlar to eat spall. Because you can train yourself for extra heavy gear. You cannot train immunity or otherwise protection against bullets.

I do belive that Lemellar is also the best way impliment leather and bone armor, since if one plate breaks just replace it with a new plate. Like its both easier and cheaper to make.

I’m digging the helmet and mask of that guy, kinda reminds me of the Cuman Kipchak helmet.

That is by far the most luxurious armor i have seen. I am a mongolian btw. From what i remember from museum, most of genghis khans troopers got some sort of chainmain under their deel, mongolian traditional clothing

@magnumnoc62

11 ай бұрын

Lets not forget the horse urine leather bro :D

There is also alot of ways to fashion it as you like. One can be quite creative with this kind of armor and you can display wealth quite well.

if you think about it the hordes could ask vassals to make the plates, and move around the small plates with a trading caravan, and that means repairing this Armor doesn't need a forge or a special building, just a few tools and a someone that knows how to repair, keep and make more armor, so this means they could use this armor in the campaigns far away from their home.

It might not be that durable but its also easily repairable in the field. Somthing important for a nomadic people with an all clavary army. the plates could be hammered back flat enough without a smith and redoing cut binding is relativly qivk and easy when compared to maile etc.

bro just did a club penguin dance and thought we wouldn't notice

Imagine a war and of troops, mercenaries most likely, wearing a mesh of chain mail and lamellar. By this I mean each of them wearing a mesh of chain mail and lamellar. Their mobility would be phenomenal and logistically speaking upkeep on armor wouldn’t be complex, though it would still cost. They’d be so quick, and telling an archer from infantry would have its own challenges for their foes. Aside from seeing their equipment up close that is, where they are definitely closing in or aiming. I’m getting ideas and need to see more historical sources on lamellar.

'ooh do you see this right here.' He acts as if this is shown to him at the same time as us, but it is his video...

Awesome set! 🤩🤩🤩

A Jack of all trades, is a master of none.

Hefty and tanky but flexable and maneuverable... perfect shock armor

If i ever invested in a suit of armor, itd be mongolian lamellar. It just looks so delicious, dawg

Mongolian throat singing is dope.

FYI the mongols had very few lancers. They’d form up in triangle formation and the outer riders would be lancers. Everyone else used maces and sometimes sword or ax. I can’t plug my source. But this information came from two texts I read . They are primary sources of those who fought the mongols.

Great video, while on this subject could you talk about the many types of armours around the world? I would love to know more about the Indian,Chinese and Iranian armour and weapons.

Something I'd wear in a zombie apocalypse

Even though history fact short channels seem to be all the rage right now your content still feels the most legit by far

The durability isn't an issue in any way and another massive reason this armor was used for so long its easily repaired and offers amazing mobility

somewhere someone in this world will call this a samurai armor and we wouldn’t know

Got into smithing not too long ago. And right now I am making myself armor like this. It looks so neat and bad ass

Always the coolest stuff about history ! Makes my day man thanks

Oh, I love it because it’s just layers and put more shit on that

Crazy how much yet how little things change over time.

And considering Imperial Chinese soldiers were equipped by the state, this kind of armor was more popular in China as well, since its easier to fix and very customisable.

He has got it in one. Lamanour armour was an ideal generalist armour, being flexible and good at protecting much of the body: as due to it being many plates on a flexible base (often leather or padded cloth),it could more easily be shaped to the body like clothing unlike more rigid armours. Another decent advantage was it was simple to source parts for, we have evidence of Lamanour being made of bone and wood and when using metal you didn’t need to forge a large singular plate which was difficult to make if you lacked a lot of iron or had poor quality metal. It’s why samurai armour was often Lamanour or used a lot of Lamanour sections, due to the poor quality ore from Japan making plate mail impractical on a large scale. Really the only real ‘issues’ were it being time consuming to make, not being as strong in specific areas like plate armour being against slashing and piercing. It was also a pain to maintain, as when it got savage you had to see all those plates back on.

This reminded me of the Chinese paper armor. It was mass produced and strong enough to stop bullets from early guns!

Love your channel. I'm a Civil War reenactor. I was wondering if you could talk about some funny incidents from the Civil War. Thanks

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The overlapping plates would surely result in a lot of excess material, so it must be quite heavy. A breastplate is only that particular plate, no extra material, but harder to come by and maybe less flexible. Lamellar like this needs to overlap, and then there’s the binding, and you still need some padding. Very cool, though.

I can confirm they used this armour being a 5000 year old vampire I've seen it all

It looks so cool!!!

I like the leopard skins on the side, i bet that was the miniboss mongol guy

It wasn’t durable, but wasn’t it easy to replace the pieces/sections if they were damaged compared to other armors? Some of my favorite old school tech right here! The Mongols were badass 🔥

Nah I call that the new dragon warrior😂

Camera man never ceases to amaze me he went back in time to get this footage

"all 3 types of damage" LMFAO

GOD DAMN MONGORIANS

Was also very heavy and made moving relatively more difficult, at least compared to plate armour.

I miss the Mongolians

Repairs are probably also easier since you can simply replace the damaged lamellars

Imagine how terrifying it would be seeing half your army wiped out by arrows and then hordes of these guys screaming towards you

I figure it would also be a lot easier to repair than chainmail or full plate. If it's damaged, you can unstring it, swap out the damaged plates, and then restring it.

Weird that this comes up when someone used an excavator to dig through the great wall of china.

Hey, they even have family jewels protection plate. Roman Segmentata was always the most bad ass looking but I could never get over the only thing protecting your nethers were those fancy coin tassels. Pterges, I think they were called. Maybe someone could fix that spelling.

Lamellar is one of my favorite types of armor, alongside the Roman Lorica Segmentata

I remember watching a short where you went over the generals of the mongols. I can’t find it anywhere. Could you do a full video on the greatest generals during ghengis khans time? Doing a versus debate with friends.

I love lamellar! It's all so pretty, IMO armor peaked aesthetically with Russo viking and byzantine lamellar

Please talk about Byzantine weapons and armor, it’s SO UNDERRATED!

I figured the drawback is that's it's incredibly heavy in its full set

They tried this concept with kevlar for bp vests called it "Dragon Scale" but it couldn't make it out of the beta test stage. Could stop .22 but nothing higher. 9mm and .45 cut through it better than regular kevlar and obv kevlar with plates,