MONETIZATION IN 2XKO (ft.

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Join me and ‪@BruiserMinion‬ in our discussion on how Riot Games upcoming fighting game 2XKO will handle their monetization as a free to play game, including speculation on DLC characters, skins, stages and other forms of paid content.
Thank you to ‪@BruiserMinion‬ in joining me for this chat, if you are interested in 2XKO news/discussion and future 2XKO content go follow his stuff he makes great content!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:00 What monetization options will 2XKO have?
3:47 Base roster and purchaseable champions
5:30 Stages
7:48 Skins VS Chromas
11:00 Does F2P Work in this old genre?
13:30 Meeting Expectations
16:00 Battlepass
20:20 Can F2P Players Get Cosmetics?
21:40 Champion Mastery/Eternals
23:50 Story Mode?
30:30 Champion/Cosmetic Bloat
38:45 How do skins affect the game?
43:20 Banned Characters/Skins
49:15 Soul Fighter Event
51:25 Will they only add popular characters first?
55:30 How far will they seperate characters from their league counterparts?
#fgc #2xko #projectl

Пікірлер: 45

  • @Raynfgc
    @Raynfgc4 ай бұрын

    What do you hope to see in 2XKO in regards to cosmetics or paid content? additional 2v2 discussion coming soon as well xoxo COME DISCORD FFS! discord.com/invite/raynfgc

  • @deku4517

    @deku4517

    4 ай бұрын

    i really want that when they release Aatrox as DLC, we have like a raid boss that is 4 people vs a giga buffed aatrox controlled by an AI, and we try to take him down, and of course give people rewards depending on how well they did, and of course the ultimate reward is Aatrox himself

  • @BruiserMinion
    @BruiserMinion4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for having me boss! was a fun conversation.

  • @whereamiproductions9583
    @whereamiproductions95834 ай бұрын

    Granblue has a really cool and interesting way of customizing the character, with Weapons, Colors, and now they even have unique Costumes you can put on each character. I personally think that'd be a really great model for League's customization. Weapons and costumes being separate would go crazy, and of course combining that with Chromas, you get a unique customization for just about everybody you see online, while knowing still exactly who that character is.

  • @cinchch

    @cinchch

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah i feel like the granblue system is gonna be one of those things that fit the best for selling customization.

  • @Jaded.1
    @Jaded.14 ай бұрын

    Fun convo, really interested to see how well this game does

  • @meepsipax
    @meepsipax4 ай бұрын

    not reading that, congrats to you, or sorry that happened

  • @MedriMystic
    @MedriMystic4 ай бұрын

    an hour of ryan fighting game community ASMR??? sign me up.

  • @r2bot
    @r2bot4 ай бұрын

    Could we agree also that knowing riot if they do make more expensive cosmetics it’s very likely they will be cosmetics that the fgc have never seen before like full character transformation similar to like how valorant base guns are basic but the gun skins have new sounds, look, partials and final kill animations.

  • @Jay-mx5ky
    @Jay-mx5ky4 ай бұрын

    Other than chromas and skins, I want to pay for intro and win screen/lose screen animations, alt voice line packs, taunts, individual hair customization, and maybe effect trails. I think those could be layup customizations to add for a few chumps of change.

  • @jjqq4116
    @jjqq411620 күн бұрын

    2xko will have 200 character in a decade if not more like league. I love it. Great for both casuals and pros as things will not get boring.

  • @victorchen547
    @victorchen5474 ай бұрын

    I feel like there's definitely things that should be considered regarding certain other fighting games in the past. Like skullgirls has announcer packs, art and music dlc, some games like MvCI have skin bundles (with the option to buy the individual skins), and Soul Calibur has custom character customization packs. So I think that implementing any of these gives people plenty of options that can be relatively cheap. I would rather not pay for characters personally, so I hope that the game will not require players to buy characters, but give them the option to earn or buy them.

  • @YoTerrako
    @YoTerrako4 ай бұрын

    Hey if bruiser is here I’ll watch

  • @villum3289
    @villum32894 ай бұрын

    hearing this while making pizza is something else

  • @charizsy
    @charizsy4 ай бұрын

    2 giga chads talking and me listening

  • @The_Rum
    @The_Rum4 ай бұрын

    13:39 It really doesn’t matter how they will price their skin. The game itself is free. That shit is optional. Discussing and comparing games like SF and Tekken’s (even overwatch) skins cost doesn’t make sense since those games have a box price. Yeah people will complain out that. Also LoR(card game) failed to sustain itself because theres not much to bling out the game. That’s just the genre inherent flaw. But for fighting games, you can do so much than just skins. Its ripe for blinging.

  • @007meef6
    @007meef64 ай бұрын

    I honestly think that the launch roster situation will be like: Darius, Ahri, Ekko, Yasuo as the "Always free/available" characters cause they're the starter pack Then there's gonna be a 2/3/4 champ rotation every week or so

  • @Kinslayu
    @Kinslayu2 ай бұрын

    I think they definitely will have 30 dollar skins. The character models are so much more detailed in 2xko than league so a premium skin is actually more work and looks better. And it also is much bigger on the screen so it has a bigger impact

  • @noeldanchou3170
    @noeldanchou31704 ай бұрын

    Premium Skins i think have knockout animation, attack effects, voicelines, stages(if its collab skin), round start animation, taunts, some personal cosmetics like Avatar Profile, Title card, ko title card or something Battle passes are normal skins with no effects and also personal cosmetics I think they will use like how f2p used their monetization

  • @jass783
    @jass7833 ай бұрын

    i was just thinking about this the other day and realized i honestly wouldn't mind if they had a paid system for dlc release champions. it's a very standard model for every other fg and i really think it just makes sense to have dlc packs of certain champions or battle passes where champs are on the reward track. i think this might be the best option especially in hindsight of Legends of Runeterra going essentially into maintenance mode because they relied almost solely on cosmetics to fund the game, and I have to assume as an outsider that a fighting game is more costly than a card game (but i could be wrong). it makes me worried for the longevity of a game i'm likely going to love for years that they seem to be going the same route, which also sets expectations too high and is likely to cause backlash if they decide to go back on their word when they realize they need to use other monetization strategies

  • @Ijusthadnocluewhattodoo
    @Ijusthadnocluewhattodoo4 ай бұрын

    I really hope the only paid dlc will be skins or a quick way to earn a new charachter.

  • @User-pu3lc
    @User-pu3lc4 ай бұрын

    Other areas to monetize: title cards, finishers, round start animations, round end animations/voice lines, match end animation/voice lines, the max super animations. They could also play around with custom burst or dust animations, but might mess with the gameplay indicators. I kind of disagree on the skin price point made here. I think people want to flex on their “main” champs in a game like this and would be up for higher price points for skins, especially if some of the custom effects listed above were included.

  • @Gear-pp1io
    @Gear-pp1io4 ай бұрын

    What of you see your skin in your monitor and opponent can default skin of your character of he toggles on only default skin

  • @Imbrisea
    @Imbrisea4 ай бұрын

    If they don't offer ANY method of getting previous battlepass rewards, I don't want any battlepasses. If you start playing a few years in and can't get cosmetics for a character you love even when you're fully willing to pay, it just leaves a bad taste.

  • @ahmedtanvir346
    @ahmedtanvir3464 ай бұрын

    people often buy new skins cause with constant playing the new one gets old with time as well also riot releases tons of skins in just short breaks so you often want the new cooler skin

  • @Superspooks.
    @Superspooks.4 ай бұрын

    Honestly I would kind of take the Ticket Route with the My Hero Battle Royal, getting 3 tickets a day to play a character I’d do that the first week a champ is out before you have to buy it to play

  • @Superspooks.

    @Superspooks.

    4 ай бұрын

    2 Champs every release 2.99 each 5.98 if you want them both (also I’m the only person asking for this but I hope we get Custom Chromas options)

  • @JhowBoy
    @JhowBoy4 ай бұрын

    The main reason people in the fgc complain about costume prices its because you have to pay for the game on top o that, the comparison with fortnite is pretty bad, one is a free to play game, the other is a full price 70$, 2xko will be full free to play apparently, so the pricetag they had for something like league skins actually wound'nt be a problem imo.

  • @maquinlol9673
    @maquinlol96734 ай бұрын

    Almost missed the video cause of the new avatar

  • @MrTerry1298
    @MrTerry12984 ай бұрын

    I expect 20 characters at lunch, and at least 50 at the end of the last game season, partly because I get tiered of playing same matchups, partly because this is a tag fighting game. Just let devs figure out balance problems.

  • @andreamarques8328

    @andreamarques8328

    4 ай бұрын

    Last game season? That will be in like 20 years, we will have way more than 50 characters

  • @MrTerry1298

    @MrTerry1298

    4 ай бұрын

    @@andreamarques8328 I don't believe that fighting game can live for so long

  • @andreamarques8328

    @andreamarques8328

    4 ай бұрын

    @@MrTerry1298 maybe not 20, but league kinda shows it can last a long time and just be updated

  • @MrTerry1298

    @MrTerry1298

    4 ай бұрын

    @@andreamarques8328 Even in SF5 45 characters overall and it feels like A lot for a fighting game. How about we have a conversation again in 6-7 years? Things will be much more clear :)

  • @Kinslayu
    @Kinslayu2 ай бұрын

    About having too many characters, league champions aren't that simple. Yeah they have 4 abilities but each ability has a cooldown, cost, range, and unique effect (sometimes multiple), plus a passive ability. It's an insane amount of knowledge to learn but people are willing to still play and enjoy the game. So I don't think 2xko can have too many characters

  • @mrberryhill
    @mrberryhill4 ай бұрын

    I think the thing about the skins, has to be kept in mind that the game IS going to be F2P. It's not like you're spending $70 on a full priced game then are still asked to spend $10+ per skin. I highly doubt skins will be any less than $5 a piece, and I fully expect them to be closer to $8-10 a piece. Have to look at their other games. The skins are all priced based on what they know will net them the most money. If RIOT thought they couldn't get people to spend $20 on a single gun skin in Valorant they wouldn't be charging it. I think the Cannon's are smart enough though, based on their comments in previous videos, to not try and charge $20 for a single skin. I just think people have to come to understand that a F2P game is going to cost a little more money for cosmetics. Something I think they may do is release any new stages for free on a less-often cadence, similar to how they don't charge extra for new maps in Valorant. Doing something like that will assist in justifying the more-than-normal cost for the skins in this game compared to other fighting games. Releasing maybe 3 new stages a year completely free of charge is a pretty decent compromise to justify a $10 cost for a skin that you don't need to buy. Regardless, I'm excited to see exactly how they decide to monetize the game.

  • @ahmadhamza1871
    @ahmadhamza1871Ай бұрын

    People don’t realize a game is free means that u can get ur non fighting game friends on very easily without paywall that is a big reason why brawhalla is shitting on the big 3 in players. I think to make the game also have casuals would be to add auto combos like dbfz .allows players to be able to do something cool without really having to practice which helps casuals have fun. Skins I feel like most likely will be 30 around there since valorant success is crazy and 40 for a gun skin is not even as personal as your fighting character. Some sort of brutalities or finishers could also get good sales. The game from what it looks like has big launch potential but keeping players especially casuals not really.

  • @RavenGuiltyGear
    @RavenGuiltyGear4 ай бұрын

    I didn't understand for a second why you're in my subscriptions because you changed your avatar. heh

  • @petrikillos
    @petrikillos4 ай бұрын

    Didn't recognize your pfp lmao

  • @kenshin391
    @kenshin3913 ай бұрын

    I hope Fiora makes it in the game.

  • @costas4058
    @costas40584 ай бұрын

    10$ buy in and full out skins

  • @goku-pops7918
    @goku-pops791815 күн бұрын

    Does 2xko have cooldowns on the specials?

  • @Raynfgc

    @Raynfgc

    15 күн бұрын

    Nope

  • @goku-pops7918

    @goku-pops7918

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Raynfgc from what I've read it does, like what rising thunder had

  • @nyaakage
    @nyaakage4 ай бұрын

    ryan gf asmr when?

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