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Monarch Lathe Restoration 4: Front Controls

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  • @billsargent3407
    @billsargent34077 жыл бұрын

    I am just a Farmer. But the highlight of my day is having coffee with Keith, or eating dinner while watching over his shoulder. I don't know how someone as young as he has managed to accumulate 200 years of knowledge. I do want to thank you for the direction you have pushed me in occasion! Wonderful to watch you work!

  • @kevinwalker5155

    @kevinwalker5155

    3 жыл бұрын

    I realize it is quite off topic but does anybody know of a good site to watch new tv shows online?

  • @vajake1
    @vajake17 жыл бұрын

    Hey Keith! That old girl is looking so much better than when we visited with you back in May! Great job! Bob Troxell, Virginia USA

  • @roberthorner8494
    @roberthorner84947 жыл бұрын

    GREAT JOB KEITH. YOU WILL GET A FEELING OF SATISFACTION EVERY TIME YOU LOOK AT IT.

  • @johnferguson7235
    @johnferguson72357 жыл бұрын

    I like the choice of a clear lacquer finish on the handles. They really pop, much better than paint. It will get chewed up but it should be easy to touch up. Repairing and restoring machines is such satisfying work.

  • @dennisleadbetter7721
    @dennisleadbetter77217 жыл бұрын

    Hi Kieth, It's almost unrecognizable to what you started with. A nice restoration of an old machine.

  • @cptbimes1
    @cptbimes17 жыл бұрын

    Keith. Your removal and installation technique is spot on for the window units ha. We do manufacture a hardened metal "punch" for all four sizes of these windows. Most of the time people just install them like you did. We manufacture all of these in NC and they are actually 100% USA made since the product was designed many many moons ago.

  • @donaldshulman6771
    @donaldshulman67717 жыл бұрын

    Keith - Cleaning the controls and painting changes the lathe from night to day. The parts were so dirty and now it looks like new. That's the best part of restorations - making the machine and its parts look great. Can't wait to see the final product.

  • @Gary.7920
    @Gary.79207 жыл бұрын

    Keith, Nice touch on the polished controls on the Monarch. Looks better than when Monarch turned it out of the factory. Great job. Thanks for sharing. Gary 74-Year-Old Home shop machinist in North West Arkansas

  • @treemaker2
    @treemaker27 жыл бұрын

    If the lathe top leaks oil a thin layer of silicone sealer on the machine surface and a thin layer of grease on the lid surface works wonders. The silicone seals it and the grease keeps the silicone from sticking the lid down. Works great, i've done it for 30+ years,

  • @siggyincr7447
    @siggyincr74477 жыл бұрын

    Strange that they would use roll pins as pivot pins, but hey it seems to work. Really neat that you found brand new OEM sight glasses. If the clear coat on the handles gets beat up and rust becomes a problem, plating them might be a interesting project and a durable finish. I think Mr. Pete was doing some nickel plating on his channel, maybe a collaboration is in order.

  • @WreckDiver99
    @WreckDiver997 жыл бұрын

    Wise choice Keith. Polished handles look AMAZING on that old lathe. Can't wait to see you starting to use all that great equipment again! The museum will soon be bringing all their stuff to your shop to do the work since you will be outfit perfectly for them! :)

  • @Sizukun1
    @Sizukun17 жыл бұрын

    I usually find when I need to hold a spring, detent, pin, or whatever else tiny in a hard to reach spot and gravity keeps yanking it out, a touch of thick grease on the pin holds it just right. It helps lubricate and prevent rust in the future as well. Keith clearly knows what he's doing, just thought I'd share that tip with everyone.

  • @stephenfowler7037
    @stephenfowler70377 жыл бұрын

    That grinder rocking would do my head in!! Great work looking good.

  • @vaughanlatham1412
    @vaughanlatham14127 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see you fire the old Monarch up and making some chips.

  • @houseofbrokendobbsthings5537
    @houseofbrokendobbsthings55377 жыл бұрын

    Glorious restore. The small things matter a lot.

  • @machintelligence
    @machintelligence7 жыл бұрын

    It truly looks great. There must be a Murphy's Law corollary for buckets of miscellaneous fasteners that states: if you need N fasteners of a given size, you will almost always be able to locate N - 1.

  • @shortribslongbow5312
    @shortribslongbow53127 жыл бұрын

    Good choice on the polishing and lacquer. Lathe is looking great.

  • @dananelson3534
    @dananelson35347 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting Keith. The polished handles look good.

  • @Mishn0
    @Mishn07 жыл бұрын

    You should paint those two oil fill caps black and clean the paint off the raised "OIL". That would look sharp and blend with the placards and control handle knobs.

  • @creativesymon
    @creativesymon7 жыл бұрын

    Keith, top vid as usual. But your new style thumbnails blend exactly with KZreads (albeit silly) red line that shows if you've watched/how much you've watched of a vid. Makes checking your older vids very difficult.

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer
    @mattthescrapwhisperer7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the restoration inspiration Keith. I now have two vintage vises, and a blacksmith forge & blower completed. I am ready to start on an ancient post vise now.

  • @my3yorkies
    @my3yorkies7 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy watching your lathe restorals. Thanks for posting these.

  • @SeanMacLennan
    @SeanMacLennan7 жыл бұрын

    Good choice on the polished metal control levers. Looks good! I also think the green was a good choice.

  • @johnstrange6799
    @johnstrange67997 жыл бұрын

    Looks really nice. Very productive year out in the shop.

  • @JeffHeathTheVintageWorkshop
    @JeffHeathTheVintageWorkshop7 жыл бұрын

    Coming along nicely Keith. I needed the source for sight glasses for my Monarch, so thanks for the investigative work.

  • @tomeyssen9674
    @tomeyssen96747 жыл бұрын

    Looking good Keith. Thanks

  • @ianbutler1983
    @ianbutler19837 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, Keith.

  • @davidbrinkerhoff7397
    @davidbrinkerhoff73977 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful work.

  • @chrisstephens6673
    @chrisstephens66737 жыл бұрын

    Looking god. I don't know if it is common knowledge your side of the pond but if, when pouring oil, you have the spout at the top you don't get the glugging as air can come in as the oil goes out. It may not have been a problem pouring oil into such a large opening but when pouring oil into, say, a funnel there is much greater control over the flow.

  • @InDaBarn
    @InDaBarn7 жыл бұрын

    Keith, enjoy all of you videos. Lathe is looking great. I think a couple of the screws in the gearbox cover were a little long. When you had them sitting in they were sticking out a lot more then they should have been. If you pull them out and stick them in upside down, if the head is completely in the counterbore then you are bottoming out the threads and not tightening on the cover. Generally when I drop the bolts in the holes I like the head to be above the top of the counterbore between 1/2 and 1 times the thread diameter.

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee64787 жыл бұрын

    Super great job Keith ! ENJOYED , Thanks man ..Thumbs up ..

  • @1musicsearcher
    @1musicsearcher7 жыл бұрын

    Looking good. To "freshen-up" a clogged up Scotch Brite wheel just run an old flat screwdriver across it while it's running. It's just like dressing a grinding wheel.

  • @spnynorman5519
    @spnynorman55197 жыл бұрын

    Looks great, Keith. I like the clean look of the polished levers. My Sheldon had painted levers on the gear box. During rebuilding I soaked that off and found nice solid bronze underneath. I may need to get a sight glass for my LeBlond; I'll find out when I get it running. Thanks for sharing the source.

  • @ScottandTera
    @ScottandTera7 жыл бұрын

    Looking good Keith

  • 7 жыл бұрын

    Damn, but I like that green color.

  • @rtkville
    @rtkville7 жыл бұрын

    Great job Keith I'm looking forward to seeing this lathe in operation. Thanks for sharing.

  • @WatchWesWork
    @WatchWesWork7 жыл бұрын

    Whenever I mess with the controls, I pull the shafts and replace the o-rings. The shafts are typically below the oil level and they always leak.

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another enjoyable show-n-tell. Please describe "drifting the clutch while shifting", as it says on the plate.

  • @hornhospital

    @hornhospital

    7 жыл бұрын

    You disengage the clutch (drop the handle down partway) without stopping the lathe, so that the gear train is "drifting", i.e. no pull against the gears and no deceleration. You can then shift without clashing. It DOES take some practice.

  • @charlescompton4495
    @charlescompton44957 жыл бұрын

    Looking good; hope to see it running but being patient for I know it takes time to do it right, Greg.

  • @polakis1975
    @polakis19757 жыл бұрын

    Nice! You definitely need to secure your wire wheel with a horizontal bar towards the wall. It is "dancing" here and there, dangerous and inefficient.

  • @jmh8743
    @jmh87437 жыл бұрын

    good job on restorstion, now i know who to call. great old iron, as a novice I had to opt for foreign metal; but it will never be as good as that old iron. congrats keith.

  • @5tr41ghtGuy
    @5tr41ghtGuy7 жыл бұрын

    Sweet looking lathe!

  • @tomeyssen9674
    @tomeyssen96747 жыл бұрын

    Clear powder coat by far the best! Won't come off.

  • @erikjohansson1814
    @erikjohansson18147 жыл бұрын

    Clearly the best option is to keep those handles or levers bare metal. Looks the best instead of some paint. Really coming together nice :o)

  • @kevCarrico
    @kevCarrico7 жыл бұрын

    those handles look amazing!!

  • @whitehoose
    @whitehoose7 жыл бұрын

    grey scotchbright SHOULD be "final" or blending grade Light Green - Non abrasive for scouring and general maint White - Non abrasive for polishing and light cleaning Grey - Ultra fine silicone carbide abrasive for fine hand cleaning and finishing Maroon - Very fine aluminum oxide for basic cleaning and finishing Green - Fine aluminum oxide for removing rust or corrosion Black - Medium aluminum oxide for heavy duty cleaning or fast action finishing Tan - Coarse aluminum oxide for stainless steel aluminum and for stripping Red is about 320- 400 grit Grey is about 600-800 grit White is about 1000

  • @jpmorgan3265
    @jpmorgan32657 жыл бұрын

    very nice work

  • @WillyBemis
    @WillyBemis7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @1jtolvey
    @1jtolvey7 жыл бұрын

    GREAT VIDEO !! PUT AN 1/8" - 1/4" OF SMALL WASHERS IN SPRING HOLE .

  • @Nf6xNet
    @Nf6xNet7 жыл бұрын

    Those polished gear shift levers look pretty sharp, and it's really cool that the exact same sight glasses are still available. I'm surprised that the detent notches are so close together on those shift levers. I would have expected the shafts to have to rotate more to engage the different gears.

  • @michaelflynn6178
    @michaelflynn61787 жыл бұрын

    looks great

  • @RelentlessHomesteading
    @RelentlessHomesteading7 жыл бұрын

    Very nice. Makes me want to do a restore - what fun! That wobbly grinder station could sure bite you sometime.

  • @cschwad559

    @cschwad559

    7 жыл бұрын

    RelentlessHomesteading Ridgidity, ridgidity, ridgidity.

  • @mattcurry29
    @mattcurry297 жыл бұрын

    Nice work Keith! Matt C

  • @davidhoward2237
    @davidhoward22377 жыл бұрын

    sure looks nice

  • @erikanderson8960
    @erikanderson89607 жыл бұрын

    Keith, I use simichrome on bare metal parts and it keeps them protected and won't peel or chip away. Thanks for the vids.

  • @mikenixon9164
    @mikenixon91647 жыл бұрын

    Looks good.

  • @CornishMiner
    @CornishMiner7 жыл бұрын

    Those handles look great. Promises to be a very nice restoration. Good practice for the 10EE ;) Best wishes.

  • @jeffren70
    @jeffren707 жыл бұрын

    You're probably going to wish you put a gasket on the top of the head stock. Lathe is looking good!

  • @German_MDS
    @German_MDS7 жыл бұрын

    Nice work. The Monarch is starting to look really good. If it was me, I would not Loctite those handles. Just thinking the pain it would be in the future to unscrew them... maybe only a tiny drop of rtv just to keep them in place.

  • @lito11111940
    @lito111119407 жыл бұрын

    Suggestion: A stainless steel plate added to that square behind the 4 or 5 handles to prevent the paint from scratches and such.

  • @lito11111940

    @lito11111940

    7 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful Lathe. Your restoration is perfect.

  • @richardcurtis556
    @richardcurtis5567 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised no gasket or Permatex on the headstock gear housing.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc027 жыл бұрын

    I would be surprised if that top doesn't sweat oil when the lathe is running high speed and flailing oil around inside. Those handle mechanisims are interesting compared to the pegs on the case that detent the levers on my Monarch. Lathe is looking great, better get to making some more space in that shop for more tools! :-)

  • @cooperkaesemeyer2220
    @cooperkaesemeyer22207 жыл бұрын

    11:35 clickspring would cry

  • @StreuB1
    @StreuB17 жыл бұрын

    Gettin there!!

  • @ramosel
    @ramosel7 жыл бұрын

    Keith, ever use "Sharkhide" on your bare or polished metals?? Stands up to cleaners and easy to re-coat (wipe on) without having pull parts off. Sold at most marine supply stores.

  • @expatconn7242
    @expatconn72427 жыл бұрын

    thanks keith .. looks trick

  • @paulmanson253
    @paulmanson2537 жыл бұрын

    Keith,I hate to be critical, but is it possible for you to change the colour of the banner at the bottom ? YT uses the same colour for watched videos. Looking carefully I can tell the difference, but a shade other than red would provide contrast.Enjoy what you do,keep it up.Cheers.

  • @weshowe51

    @weshowe51

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've mentioned that before, and I totally concur. Maybe a nice Green will be more pleasing. :)

  • @paulmanson253

    @paulmanson253

    7 жыл бұрын

    weshowe Green and red make blue,do they not ? Maybe they mix ?At any rate,green would work .

  • @exilfromsanity

    @exilfromsanity

    7 жыл бұрын

    Green and red make brown. Blue is a primary color, not made by mixing anything.

  • @paulmanson253

    @paulmanson253

    7 жыл бұрын

    Luckystrike My memory of tinkering with colour filters dates to the early seventies. Now that I think of it,red and blue make green. I could never figure out colour subtraction versus colour addition. As well,there are three other colours,cyan being the only one I can remember. Add enough colours together,it is supposed to be black but in reality a muddy brown if paint. Gel filters are not the same as ground pigment.

  • @exilfromsanity

    @exilfromsanity

    7 жыл бұрын

    Goggle "color wheel". Green is yellow and blue.

  • @francoisfouche2568
    @francoisfouche25687 жыл бұрын

    GREAT video as always!! Question: Is there some kind of gasket under the top cover?

  • @cmonster6
    @cmonster67 жыл бұрын

    Hey Keith the gray wheel is a fine grit but will reshape aluminum and even some steels if you are not careful

  • @robertcorrie6737
    @robertcorrie67377 жыл бұрын

    Where is your anvil you just keep punishing that poor table lol. Looking good polished is great touch

  • @stuffandthings8767
    @stuffandthings87675 жыл бұрын

    its a unitized/convoluted wheel.

  • @exilfromsanity
    @exilfromsanity7 жыл бұрын

    You're gaining on it! Going to be a beautiful machine. I noticed that sometime during this video the drive screws for the bottom of the spindle speed chart plat got installed. I also notice the red on the short, middle shift lever (at 17:11) but it doesn't appear to be red in later shots. Was that a reflection or is it painted red? Is that the reverse gear? I'm really enjoying this series of videos. Thanks for sharing.

  • @clydecessna737
    @clydecessna7375 жыл бұрын

    3 1/2 gallons? wow!

  • @theoldguy43
    @theoldguy437 жыл бұрын

    I think the Sotchbrite wheel is "7s fine". That's what I use and it looks the same as yours.

  • @commadore129
    @commadore1297 жыл бұрын

    Hey Keith, When you get around to putting the clutch linkage and shafts back together can you show that in detail? I have a lot of wear in my clutch linkages and needs a lot of work I think it's mainly in the gearbox where it crosses the bed and then runs around the back of the head stock. Also if you pull the compound shaft out can you measure that as well I need to make one the original one is missing and I need a better idea how it goes together. My Monarch is a 1944 18CW 18" swing and 30" between centers. I think the parts are the same between them Just newer on yours. Thanks. your lathe looks a lot better than mine right now.

  • @RelentlessHomesteading
    @RelentlessHomesteading7 жыл бұрын

    A real "hammer mechanic" today. LOL

  • @flatblack39

    @flatblack39

    7 жыл бұрын

    I keep yelling, "Look where you want the hammer to hit!" The glancing blows make me wince!

  • @rosserpace3602
    @rosserpace36027 жыл бұрын

    Looks great, have you ever tried Shark Hide to protect the exposed metal? I live in central Florida and given our humidity & temperature everything rusts. Have been using for a couple of years and have great results.

  • @dizzolve
    @dizzolve6 жыл бұрын

    Love the videos Keith. Can you please take a moment to tell us which 3m product exactly that you use? There are so many I don't have the slightest idea where to start - and they're so expensive I can't really afford to experiment till I find what I need. Thanks in advance!

  • @fairweatherfoundry715
    @fairweatherfoundry7157 жыл бұрын

    Great video Keith, but what happened to "Monarch Lathe Restoration 2?" The video series skips from 1 to 3.

  • @hilltopmachineworks2131
    @hilltopmachineworks21317 жыл бұрын

    I need new sight glasses in my Model K. What were the Bijur part numbers?

  • @dtoad48
    @dtoad487 жыл бұрын

    Was that one cap screw higher than the rest (above the machine)?

  • @bsb0011

    @bsb0011

    7 жыл бұрын

    I was wandering the same thing. Maybe an old washer was still in the hole?

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew07 жыл бұрын

    I've got my doubts whether that type of sight-glass will work to see the oil circulating. It's looks more like a dedicated level-gauge.

  • @bsb0011

    @bsb0011

    7 жыл бұрын

    There are 2 different ones. One is a oil fill (in the back), and the other is a drip through (the front one).

  • @johnhenderson1760
    @johnhenderson17607 жыл бұрын

    I don't know that I've ever seen you use the parts washer. Only mention it. I've been reading a bit about them. What solvent do you use?

  • @AdventuresinFabrication
    @AdventuresinFabrication7 жыл бұрын

    Looks good, did you do anything to the plastic knobs and if so what?

  • @Landrew0

    @Landrew0

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nothing much happens to Bakelite knobs when they have been indoors.

  • @AdventuresinFabrication

    @AdventuresinFabrication

    7 жыл бұрын

    I have a couple on a used machine that are beaten up so I was hoping there was something I could do.

  • @Landrew0

    @Landrew0

    7 жыл бұрын

    You could drill and tap an 8-ball as Adam Savage has done, or you could refinish it by sanding and lacquering it, unless of course it's too far gone. In that case, simply buy a new knob online.

  • @Patroand
    @Patroand7 жыл бұрын

    In open gear system it is normally suggested using something like 80-90! Seems that you use a much lighter oil? Why? Is Vectra medium normally used on sliding surface?

  • @johnferguson7235

    @johnferguson7235

    7 жыл бұрын

    If you watch the video Keith made about restoring the information plates on the machine, one of those plates says that the machine should use Vectra oil.

  • @jusb1066

    @jusb1066

    7 жыл бұрын

    i guess it because it wont get warm, so needs to be thinner, and thats the grade suggested by the manufacturer on the plate

  • @romaneisner798
    @romaneisner7987 жыл бұрын

    please fix the polish maschine^^

  • @elidouek5438
    @elidouek54387 жыл бұрын

    Machining beginner here: On the speed chart, it says "drift clutch when shifting". Can someone tell me what this means?

  • @ronrinock6943

    @ronrinock6943

    7 жыл бұрын

    Eli Douek It means to just barley engage the clutch so that the spindle is turning just a little. This is done so that the dogs on the sliding shift collars will line up with the dogs on the gears. Back a video or two he had the top cover of the headstock off and you can see how the shifting mechinism operates.

  • @jusb1066

    @jusb1066

    7 жыл бұрын

    images of this lathe drifting around a large parking lot, smoking its tyres...lol

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew07 жыл бұрын

    Much better job with the wind-noise Keith. I hated to ride you on that, because you do such good work, but I thought it was fair criticism.

  • @rosserpace3602
    @rosserpace36027 жыл бұрын

    Looks great, have you ever tried Shark Skin to protect the exposed metal? I live in central Florida and given our humidity & temperature everything rusts. Have been using for a couple of years and have great results.