“Wanna talk about how shitty modern Pop music is? “I’d love to!!!” This is gold!

That was way too intelligent.🧠You portrayed both sides excellently.

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

It's easy because I am literally both, the dilemma of Metal 😄

@amphibeingmcshpongletron5026

3 ай бұрын

@@Farvann That early 30s limbo state. We were exposed to the best of both worlds. From actually buying cassettes as a main means of music consumption to streaming on Spotify. We've seen so much change with music, technology, culture, etc, but don't really feel like we are fully in the new school or old school mentality.

"If every metal fan would be like you, the music would be long dead. That's what you're doing to your 'favourite' kind of music". Maaan, that hit really hard

I love old-school

@sleepforever8378

8 ай бұрын

Nice profile picture :)

@CizerKedi

8 ай бұрын

@@sleepforever8378 thanks :3

@h0pesfall

8 ай бұрын

I love metalcore

Cant go wrong with some good old school thrash and death metal🤘

@cpb9893

8 ай бұрын

That old school thrash recorded with one SM47 in the middle of a warehouse with songs about either mythology or thrashing

@RED-dx8qo

8 ай бұрын

@@cpb9893 hell yea

I use both a real amp and digital plugins, I think both are great for different things, and often the same things as well. It's really all about preference.

Your comedic chops are getting sharper and sharper.

''We had our rehearsal room next to a skunk factory up in Siberia it was freezing and smelling the whole day'' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@bezoticallyyours83

7 ай бұрын

That part made me laugh

The charles dickens joke actually got me, haha, it ame unexpected :D

I love these videos of yours! I like both modern metal and old metal.

So resonate with me from both sides 😂😂 man You nailed it.

yes, there are so many decent amp sims that sound great in a mix for recording, but when I'm jamming I prefer the sound and "feel" of an actual amp.

@bezoticallyyours83

7 ай бұрын

Same

Your project Durbatuluk is superb! Can't wait for the next record! Wish u all the best, bud. Keep it up! From Kazakhstan with love🤘🏻🧙🏻

Reminds me of black vs death metal video

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

Makes sense 😁

Great video, loved how you depicted each side because I thought you were going a different direction with it. And now to share an unpopular opinion on a predominantly black metal channel: I've been a metal head most of my life, and while I still listen to newer stuff just in case there's brilliance there, I find myself slowly rolling back the distortion to hear individual notes. I also let myself listen to other genres of music (romantic era classical music is bad ass). I've come to appreciate how Dark Funeral and Behemoth have evolved. There's less notes and more space in the music that gives it a unique ambiance. And while Slaves Shall Serve is an all time favorite, I feel like things like O Father O Satan O Sun are just as dark and heavy. Maybe I'm just getting softer as I get older. Cheers.

This video is pure gold lol

A "good old amplifier" costs more than the entire pc,plugins,guitar combo combined 🙈 I'll stick with my digital shi*. I'm with the modern guy lol.

@Mp57navy

8 ай бұрын

I see you're one of those people that call a potato a "computer". Edit: I checked. A decent amp doesn't even cover the cost of a mid-range graphics card.

@thenephilimm

8 ай бұрын

honestly lol

@borist.

8 ай бұрын

@@Mp57navy The amp that I use in digital version (mesa boogie dual rectifier) costs 1500 euros used if you're lucky. And that's without considering the cabin and the mic (let's put also a pedal if you want some extra distortion). You don't need a 4090 for recording songs,even the cheapest card works super fine. A 3060 it's even too much for the work and costs 300 euros. I love real amps but the costs,the space required etc doesn't make sense for me. If you have the space,the money etc,nothing to say but let's not pretend that is a more convenient and better deal than the digital stuff.

@qerzuk

8 ай бұрын

@@Mp57navy most decent amps cost over a grand. For music production a pc wort about 600 bucks will be more than enough. I can buy 4 plugins outside a sale with the spare money and have way mroe options.

Haha! Way too accurate! Old school metal musician who started out with adat portastudios/tape and now loves new technology!

The end is just perfect :D

I've been watching your channel for a while now, and I finally figured out who you've always remind me of. Mr. Dan Swanö. Who is one the most talented individuals in history. IMO, of course. Anyway, I love your channel, my friend! Cheers!

The old school is better!! 🤘 🤘

First Vince Vocals, now Gregory Guitar and Derek Drums... Am I sensing a second season of 'High Gain'? 🎸🤯 You depicted the Metal Elitist Boomer very accurate😂

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

😄

This 'Dismember' t-shirt looks so good.

I like both kinds of music, modern and old metal

despite our differences we are not so different😊

This aging metal GOD (self proclaimed, of course) agrees with everything grey haired Farvann said...if only I could actually HEAR what he said! 😂

Old Farvann looks smoldering, and I'm strait

Very good, entertaining. And true.

Old school !! Silver Play button for christmas !

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

Christmas next year 😄

lol love this! love old school music but hey I love plugins lol

vannfar vs farvann Cant stop think about that megadeth sound

The Nile shirt 🔥

I’m 49 years of age. I’m totally on the same side as the older guy.

A nice and meaningful message 😔

Both are amazing. Also for modern metal theres alot of modern metal that brings the roots of old school metal such as Deathhammer, Midnight, and Hellripper

I would like to complain about the inaccuracies but....well I'm old and forgot what I was talking about.

I have Darkthrone shirts older than most black metal fans and they constantly try gatekeeping me.

@Anonymous-wb3nz

3 ай бұрын

Gatekeeping is in the eyes of the poser ....

I wanna do a modern punk meets modern metal head with you as the metal guy would be funny bro

This is a pure gold. But hey, I still use a tube amp and mic. 😁

"e??? Who am I? Charles Dickens?" I died 😂

Was that "To Hell and back" at the end?

"Playing to a click, even live, making it sound anything but ALIVE." FATALITY!

@Luemm3l

6 ай бұрын

yep, fatality for bands who can not play for shit and then call it "being authentic" if you are a tech death band or even a black metal band who relies on faster blasts and tremolo and you are NOT on time, you will sound like a washing machine falling down the stairs. if that is what you like to hear live, more power to you, but it is kind of pathetic sometimes to hear bands that you love on record struggle to play their own material, that often is not too hard ot complicated to begin with. I wont name any names, but have experienced that especially with black metal bands more than once lol. so a click would actually help a lot of them to play better, tighter and thus have more evil atmosphere.

I like doing it the old school way I respect the new school but god I love old school

Does anyone know how to get Transylvanian hunger tone on boss katana mk2 (I tried a lot of different settings and it still sounds warm compared to the recording)

Honestly you are good at acting.

Hello man can you please make a video about Beherith? I think it would be great!

I’ll bet there were similar sentiments by old swing jazz guys vs bebop players.

The whole "back in the day" argument seems to me quite out of touch, especially with metal, because metal in the 2000s has produced some of its finest material: Khanate, Portal, Gnaw Their Tongues, Liturgy, Deathspell Omega...

The amount of people commenting who are hilariously oblivious to the fact that they embody the stereotypes Farvann is poking fun at is lasting entertainment for me.

What song is that on the outtro, im guessing its a durbatuluk song but i couldnt find it.

oldschool FTW! 🤘

So basically me and my dad to some extent but he’s toned down a lot now that he’s old😂

dang man u buff

Will we see you in season 2 of Musician Mansion? :))

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

No 🤣

@cpfantastic5576

8 ай бұрын

Come on, episode 1 and 2 were good, they wrote a song with music video and performed it live. That alone worth participating.@@Farvann

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

@@cpfantastic5576 No no, I can't participate because I'm not famous enough. And I'm not a music KZreadr anyway

@cpfantastic5576

8 ай бұрын

Jimena is a small channel and That Carcosa guy is not really a "music youtuber" either but both of them participated. It's your call, i'm just messing with you. It's fun if we see you in season 2 though. @@Farvann

The arthritis joke called me up

I'm old school I love tube amps!

I’m such an old metal head I can’t stay out in the rain too long in case my hair starts to rust.

Gotta agree with the old school

That's not grey hair farvann, that's Chris Barnes

I like using microphones in front of tube amps with pedals in front of them... But I run the mic outputs into Bitwig through an audio interface, and use a parallel DI to preserve clean transients so I can make drum tracks in a plug-in. Whose ass am I supposed to want to kick in this video? I'm very confused.

As an old BM guitarist - oof. 😆😆

“If you’re not into metal, you are not my friend” says nothing about the friend status of people who are into metal.

There's skunk factories?

I’m on team Old Metal but he was definitely the instigator 💀

Whoa, those dudes look so much alike. Weird. Probably related.

Both is good

Man , change the Boomer's shirt to Hellhammer or Any other FWOBM band

These two tribes have something in common: Most of them don't buy music since 2005, which killed professional metal bands. I think the only 21st century born Metal band whose members are able to live off their music is Ghost. Not even an honourable example lol. Fucking sad how so many people don't have the natural desire in having a physical album. CD's are my weapon of choice, and some of them come with artwork that is absolutely amazing. It's like buying both the music and a book.

@filipdzero8739

7 ай бұрын

2010s also had some great metal albums, just saying.

Nile and Dismember are contemporary bands from the late '80s-early '90s, but lets put it aside.

@Farvann

7 ай бұрын

😉

Nice. I’m an old school metal guy but I’ve always said that very thing. If you think that only old school metal is good and everything new sucks, you’re basically saying that metal is dead. … and it’s more alive than ever. Just not in the same way. Music in general and the way we consume it has changed dramatically from the freakin 80’s and 90’s

That poor headstock

@Farvann

7 ай бұрын

The sounds are post production. The magic of cinema 😁

i am both

I didn't think video would go that way. As an old metalhead, I criticize what is called metal these days. If a band has a guitar in it, it is immediately metal, not rock, hardrock etc. but immediately metal. If you ask your metalhead to name some old bands, they answer Slipnot, Korn, and some other nu-garbage ( I will never accept nu-rock being called metal).

@KindredBrujah

3 ай бұрын

" If a band has a guitar in it, it is immediately metal, not rock, hardrock etc." ...what? The Beatles are metal? Simon and Garfunkel are metal?

@antondzajajurca7797

3 ай бұрын

@@KindredBrujah hence .. (bands) these days, as "today" bands.

Endlich sehen wir am Ende des Videos wie du deine Haare färbst um jünger aus zu sehen😎👍

whats the title of the song at the end?

@Farvann

4 ай бұрын

Seelenwanderung

@deathmetal5156

4 ай бұрын

@@Farvann danke man, starkes album!

What song is the outro?

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

Durbatuluk - Seelenwanderung

only problem when I hear a "modern metal" frase is that I automatically imagine some metalcore or deathcore or somethingcore bands..anyway,there are thousands of awesome metal bands that,believe or not,started playing after 2004.

Damn, somehow i'm both

Lmao brilliant

What song in the outro?

@Farvann

7 ай бұрын

Durbatuluk - Seelenwanderung

@rahmatsumantri6577

7 ай бұрын

​@@FarvannThank you very much🤘Love the song so much🖤

The main problem with modern (metal) music is that lots of talentless people are able to record and release their bullshit, and because of that really great stuff is very difficult to find. And plastic sound, of course.

@christinawoolf4320

8 ай бұрын

Amen

@dee-taylor

7 ай бұрын

Correct. And if it's not completely hack bullshit like Polyphia, it's usually some derivative, 'heard this a million times' bullshit.

@tromboneman4517

7 ай бұрын

Oh come on. There’s plenty of great stuff out there and it’s not so hard to find!

reality

My dad is oldschool so i guess i am modern fan? 😅

You made me feel so guilty about making it obvious that modern metalheads wear headphones. Mainly because the living costs are so stupidly high nowadays that all they can afford is live in a rented flat with plenty of neighbors... Anyway. I'm a mix of both worlds. I prefer the sound quality of modern metal but the liveliness of oldschool. No, I'm not talking about your obvious generic "remaster", which is a remaster only in the name lmao. A true remaster is a re-recorded old song with better equipment and mixing, but in the same manner even if it means you gotta PLAY THE WHOLE SONG FROM START TO FINISH without hitting stop on the recorder:) you fools...

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, headphones are great! 😄

To be fair, Pop music always sucked. Doesnt matter if you talk about mordern pop music or pop music 50 years ago.

@DrinkingBleachOnTheBeach

8 ай бұрын

City pop is great and 80s pop is great

@bMt5553

8 ай бұрын

As much as I generally dislike most pop music, I’m going to have to unfortunately disagree with you on that. But you have your opinion, and I have mine, and that’s perfectly fine.

@KindredBrujah

3 ай бұрын

Doesn't even make sense. Pop music is literally just whatever is popular at a given moment. If you dislike things purely because they're popular, you're a doofus.

me talking to my dad as I record guitars with a more complex tone than his.

Modern tech has lowered the bar for entry to the point anyone can make music and release it. Nothing more KVLT than that.

hhahaaaaa hahaaa great

dont tell him digital drums exists

Fühl mich plötzlich irgendwie zwiegespalten...

Old-school👆👆👆

A yes the true glue of any metal fan , shitty modern pop music lol

@Okbuddypal

8 ай бұрын

Our hatred for modern pop music unites us, whether we prefer old metal or modern metal

Respect the elderly. Boomers have feelings too

Ничто так не объединяет двух как ненависть к третьему

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

😄

@TymurZhezhel

8 ай бұрын

​@@Farvanndid youtube translate my comment?

@Farvann

8 ай бұрын

No, I did

@TymurZhezhel

8 ай бұрын

Actually thank you for your music, man, love it🤘

Plot twist: the old Metal fan is right

Nothing about drop tuning? Every old thrash metal fan knows that drop tuning is for people who can't play guitar, even though it is much heavier sounding.

There is a lot of good modern metal out there, but overall the genre has just become so stagnant and lifeless compared to what it was in the 80s and 90s, the creativity that bands had back then is long gone

In the end ALL Metalheads agree that (modern) Popmusic is garbage.

old metal fan is right none the less.

Wait, bands really play to a click live?

@KindredBrujah

3 ай бұрын

Yes. If your music has a backing track (say strings or synth or something) then what other option is there?

@ilikevideos4868

3 ай бұрын

@@KindredBrujah didn't think about backing tracks