(Laugh!) Back in the 70s, I worked in the phosphate mines and one of the positions was unloading railroad cars. We had a steel pole about 6 feet long that we used to both unlock and open the hopper, and then swing and slam it shut (we'd get the door swinging, and at the right time bear down on the pole and the door would slam shut and a latch drop into place - sometimes we'd have to pound the latch to make sure it was solidly set). It was unpleasant work, especially when raining because the grating was slippery and we didn't have much room to move - and those doors were heavy! This was a far cry from the way we did it (we also had a small, gas powered half railroad engine, half car to move the cars through the unloading station - not a nice engine like seen here). Having a simple, easy control like that... NICE!

@RokerSMisisipi

3 жыл бұрын

That reminded of the scene in the "Kill the Irishman" movie. Tough and dirty work, hats off to all the men who did it

@intermodalman123

3 жыл бұрын

We still do it that way at the rock company I work for, actually we have cars that have had an air system like this ripped out to install manual door mechanisms (those are absolutely brutal to open and close). These air systems don't work so well if the unloading pit is smaller than the railcar. One incorrect wiring job on the door controls and you've got quite the mess. I'd assume Florida phosphate mines? What mine? My employer sends me out that way to unload quite often, always a nice breeze flowing through the gypsum stacks

@RedHeart64

3 жыл бұрын

@@intermodalman123 Swift, back in the 70s. I never experienced that breeze. The areas I worked were hot and humid during the summer - not bad during winter days, but the nights could get uncomfortable. Trying to stay dry was important, as if you got wet you could experience hypothermia in winter, and summer, well, you didn't dry out until you got home. With water pouring down from all areas (rock in the tanks separating out the water and leaks everywhere, plus occasional rain), a rain suit and boots were mandatory and needed.

Good post. Nice to see some of how it's done as to just seeing them roll thru an area. Liked it.

Seems that one major downside of this method would be the capacity of the conveyor system. Perhaps it doesn't matter at this plant. Interesting system keeping in mind all the caveats listed in the comments below. Thanks for taking the time to film this process and posting it on KZread.

Quite the intense operation, thanks for posting.

Notice how much the car's springs came up. Pretty neat!

There are three pockets or doors in the bottom of the car. Each door has a letter to open the pocket of choice. Not because of material but some times you only want to balance the unloading conveyor or Simply for ease of unloading.You never want to dump 115 tons on an unwarmed system as this creates problems on the belts in the system.

@Bassotronics

Жыл бұрын

@@GWRProductions-kg9pt 😂

This looks like FUN!

This is the first time I've seen something like this and I found it fascinating. In response to those who say that there is no time savings to this one, I can't help but think about how long it would take to do this by hand..... Maybe as technology progresses and with the "gotta have it now" attitude so prevalent in society, a lot is being taken for granted. Those who feel this way should, perhaps, do it "the old-fashioned way" for awhile so they get an appreciation for what they have and not expect even more time-saving technology that too, will become obsolete because the bar is always being raised.

@RedHeart64

6 жыл бұрын

Doing it by hand was also rather quick (at least the way we did it)... but very strenuous, uncomfortable, and even dangerous. This took seconds to do... the way we did it took about 30 seconds (closing) for a three door hopper car. Opening was quicker - just flip a latch and the door/hatch would drop open.

Electrical operation of the dumping mechanism is achieved using pick-up shoes on either side of the car. The pick-up shoes are used to transmit the electrical signal that opens or closes the doors to the control valve. When a positive (+) 24 VDC signal is present at the pick-up shoe and a negative (- 24 VDC signal is present on the rail, the signal to open the doors is routed through diodes in the valve’s internal wiring that allow the “open” solenoid to actuate. When the doors are to be closed, the electrical signal is reversed. The pick-up shoe sees a negative (- 24 VDC signal while the rail sees a positive (+) 24 VDC signal which is once again routed through the diodes to the “close” solenoid

@awashbowler

5 жыл бұрын

So what prevents some random person from taking a 24 volt power source to these cars and opening them up whenever and wherever? Is there a mechanical safety mechanism that isnt shown here?

@doug112244

5 жыл бұрын

@@awashbowler my guess is that unless air is be supplied by the car activating the solinoids does nothing.

Thanks. I knew how it was done but never actually saw it. Very cool.

@tokelosellosrailwaychanel3208

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/g42nqKawctfVo5c.html. I have captured something similar

The nifty super-swift switch device looks pretty silly when your conveyor's so slow.

@45polar

6 жыл бұрын

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@bernietronell8245

6 жыл бұрын

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@UKMonkey

3 жыл бұрын

or receiving hopper so small.

Shelly locomotive SD18M, CSX delivered the train and we staged train for departure..

Very helpful, I'm researching unloading methods of ortners and gons for my model railroad - this was great!!!

Love the sound of metal and air from moving train.

Nice video and fun to watch. Take care now.

Yup... only 110 more to go....

@deshirabrinson272

6 жыл бұрын

3006USMC more like 178😆

@johnhull6363

5 жыл бұрын

Good job

@Trains4Fun

5 жыл бұрын

lol!

Sorry, I should have been more informative. We were unloading limestone sand on this section of the train.. The train was loaded with three sizes of limestone and it just happen to be sand when I was able to video the scene. This sand makes a very durable product in asphalt and concrete as it does not break down. Rub some different types of sand between your fingers and you will understand why its in demand.

@robertogalaz2543

6 жыл бұрын

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@alexrobertson9294

6 жыл бұрын

yeah but your conveyor is still slow

@ronjohnson9507

5 жыл бұрын

They're unloading meth!!

@haroldcochan3971

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronjohnson9507 No it's not it's coke!

Tell the gerbils under there to pick up the pace.

@andersgabriel3

3 жыл бұрын

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@krewpeter1436

3 жыл бұрын

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@maximodavid8337

3 жыл бұрын

@Krew Peter yup, I have been using Flixzone for months myself :D

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3 жыл бұрын

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@krewpeter1436

3 жыл бұрын

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Excellent video I enjoyed this

thanks for posting....I really enjoyed this video!!

@jamesrivis620

5 жыл бұрын

Gives a whole new meaning to the word ‘modern’ eh ?

@522549 115 tons of stone per car.35 tons car weight equals 150 tons per car, 14,500 tons for 100 cars.. Figure move time of 40 to 50 seconds per car,plus staging time . I think you see how time adds up..When I get some time I may show how slow swinging a sledge by two men opening the pockets rather than one man using a battery. I'm sure you wouldn't want to swing a sledge , open , close and lock pocket doors either. At the end of the stone season here these guys have arms like a Black Smith.

@rlewis1946

6 жыл бұрын

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@GWRProductions-kg9pt

6 жыл бұрын

come to Britain & watch how it's done

@scowell

4 жыл бұрын

Why is the video 6min long for one car?

This is very interesting..Do you guys load stuff like Salt and Sugar or is that for 100 ton Hopper Cars?

I get a weird satisfaction seeing the wheels smash that stuff.

Thanks for posting that. I hadn't seen it before.

@tokelosellosrailwaychanel3208

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/g42nqKawctfVo5c.html. I have captured something similar

Thanks. Neat! So it is limestone. Regards. Good on ya mate.

If I saw that correctly, the two wires coming from the thing the guy was holding (which looked like an old drill) touched the contact under the letters which triggered the door(s) to be opened?

This is what us fellow RR employees have called "luxury cars" lol. Sure beats unloading with sledge hammers and point bars, or having to bust your ass if a door wants to be stuck open!

Awesome video! Where is this at?

0:30 wow! seperated button/switch

Absolute blockbuster

Superb Video!

I really do not see this system working that well in the future, as electrical circuits and railcars do not mix well. I worked for ACF Industries (now American Railcar), where we built cars, then for a machinery manufacturer who built equipment for the RR, and I owned a shop myself that built equipment for both CSX and NS. A manual hand valve system, with the carman carrying a keyed handle, would be much better. There are too many things, including weather conditions, that can cause an electrically controlled system to fail. Solenoids have an affinity to go bad, on top of rust/corrosion, dirt/sand, ice, etc, interfering with the electrical circuit.

@TheNemosdaddy

4 жыл бұрын

They've been around for years now and work just fine long term.

Actually, there are six gated doors linked together in parallel to allow them act as a 3-set units. It's a common misunderstood detail we in model railroading make too.

wow, this is pretty cool!

This is really cool. Thanks for posting.

The problem for them isn't the cars it's their own conveyors or what ever they have underneath. It's nullifying the gains that have been made through the use of parametric doors on the cars

@seethetrain

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah there's an awful lot of product on the ground. Someone probably has to come along with some kind of air sweeper to sweep that into the conveyor. Not very efficient.

@marinoprimiceri8805

6 жыл бұрын

seethetrain

@sharkheadism

6 жыл бұрын

Yall don't know much about bulk commodity transport

@lylealexander7810

6 жыл бұрын

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@lachlanlandreth9069

5 жыл бұрын

There would be a wedge shape hopper that lets the product flow onto the the conveyor

An excellent video. ♡ T.E.N.

You can actually see the whole car rise up as it's getting unloaded because the weight of the cargo is no longer present.

That feeling when your throwing up and it finally stops

18 volts? Easy for troublemakers to open the doors

@mujeeb7100

4 жыл бұрын

Untill the acess is feom clear the engine loco pilot

That is so cool

‘Stand Clear Of The Doors’ - just like commuter trains!!!

You just showed millions of people how to have fun with parked trains.

Управлениеэлектроклапанами пневмоцилиндров открывания и закрывания люков при помощи переносного аккумулятора?Спасибо.

Dumpster would probably be faster, but you will need rotary ends on the car... That local Coal Plant in Rodermacher, LA gets 3 coal Trains every noun again, takes them about 24 hrs for 135-138 cars

Now some smart ass is going to take an old battery powered drill and rig up electric contacts and try this out somewhere, causing a shit ton of money in losses.

So what the hell is the little orange drill looking thing and how does it make the doors open by just touching whatever that is on the side of the car ?

@crispy8329

7 жыл бұрын

looks like it is sending an electrical current, grounds out on the lower strip, then touches each of the circles individually.

@OOpSjm

6 жыл бұрын

generates electrical pulse

@geezer652

6 жыл бұрын

Appears to be "electric solenoid over air". Electric current provided by "the little orange drill looking thing" trips the solenoid, the solenoid trips air valve that opens or closes the three doors.

@awashbowler

5 жыл бұрын

It appears to actually be a milwaukee flashlight... basically a drill. They are just using it as a source of electric current.

Wow so exciting

This is not race. We do 30 car cuts as we do not rotate the car. But,, We did have a best day when we unloaded two trains,122 cars in 12 hours...

@snowman8235

6 жыл бұрын

ERIE1264 You guys busted your butts

How far is the sand hauled?

Erie, I'm doing research for a novel. What is the tool the man used to release the air that opened the hopper, it looked like something electrical. Also, is there a manual override?

@clearwater3d

10 жыл бұрын

Looks like there is a ground plate which i think is the large plate on the bottom then there are 3 plates per door and it completes the circuit with that trigger tool

@mopac1851

10 жыл бұрын

just looks like a battery with wires attached to open solenoid valves

@spencergreenhill7728

5 жыл бұрын

Too many of the commentators have no idea of what they are talking about. Try opening doors on a frozen railcar in midwinter.

Looks like the kind of job i want. I wonder how sweet sweet that paid is 😙💰😂

@tuckergreen2138

5 жыл бұрын

Trains4Fun 38 -42 dollars 💵 hour

If you watch in faster time lapse mode, you can actually see the car springing back upward as the weight inside is emptied.

What engine were you using & why does it have a CSX EOT on it?

B-Break End C-Center A-non-break end

@sharkheadism

6 жыл бұрын

*brake

What they unloading there?

@sharkheadism

6 жыл бұрын

Sand

Nice

Crazy Video...

Is that Frac Sand?

In central Queensland we tried rotary dumping on the coal traffic. We found bottom dumping was quicker.

@davidhimmelsbach557

2 жыл бұрын

The Swedes have solved rotary dumping. They use it for iron ore. It's AMAZING to behold.

What does that power drill do?

6:21 CSX Upside-down.

This is like watching paint dry!

Car is faster than the hopper auger, so no time savings here. Might be better at other facilities where they deliver.

@danielrose1392

6 жыл бұрын

It safes time. You cut down on the time between two cars, it is 55s now, assume it was much longer previously.

@LynnCDoyle-ek2oh

5 жыл бұрын

I safe time by not watching too many boring videos.

ERIE1264 So basically you are saying that one car contains 115 tons of stone and that gets conveyed underneath in about 4 minutes. And all the people are saying its a slow conveyor!!!

@awashbowler

5 жыл бұрын

Yup! and they dont realize that whether its a hydraulic door like this or a manual door, the car is still going to empty at roughly the same rate resulting in the same flow on the conveyor. I swear people don't use their heads anymore!

@jimbarchuk

4 жыл бұрын

@@awashbowler You're right but there's more. Go find the post by a guy who used to operate those doors manually. Crawling under railcars, at night, in the rain, and swinging huge metal doors till they shut. Dangerous and unpleasant. My back hurts watching the machine do it. OSHA and workman's comp nightmare. Expensive electronics is cheaper than injuries.

Is this wheat or limestone?

Incredible, no graffitti !!!!! By the way, thanks for posting, it was very informative.

@pete5668

3 жыл бұрын

All the kids living along the line must've been sufficiently spanked. Rare for these days.

Que es esa cosa con la que abren las puertas?

Maikäfer im September fangen ist aufregender.

How many volt do they use?

@cw7784

6 жыл бұрын

LSZocker2009 18 is what they said if your asking about that drill they were using

Must be nice we have to use a heavy ass gate opener lol

The guy with the John Deere shirt? it looked like he had it on right with the plastic strap where it was

Going to bring my drill to the railroad yard.

Nice video

I wonder, what kind of discharge mechanism it is? Miner, Ortner?

@EdmontonRails

9 жыл бұрын

it seems to be air powered

@TheSonic10160

8 жыл бұрын

Martin Adamkovič Gravity.

wow, what a tough job probably union

@Turquoise412

4 жыл бұрын

Talesin- God of the Internet Nah, union would have required two men and a foreman

Not bad almost 5 minutes to unload 150 tons

All while using what seems to be a drill half way taken apart with 2 wires rigged on the end. hahahaha

Wow!

In which country was it filmed? Please, i need to know it because of a homework!

Cement plant or other? Also I would be surprised if nobody said it was cocaine for the joke of it.

so a 2cell lipo will do the job, good to know :)

What was you unloading? Is it rice, salt, or sugar?

@davidn6124

5 жыл бұрын

Sand

What's being dumped? Flour? Sugar? Sand? Salt? Molly? Coke?

@davehughesfarm7983

5 жыл бұрын

bolivian cocaine at a CIA base...

@jayswarrow1196

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't be CIA, cause instead of this screwdriver battery, they'd used different laser decoder guns for each door on each car, to make sure the taxpayer's money were spent on a proper equipment.

What r they unloading

I'm not real sure what they are unloading, but they should probably have dust masks on

@doubleutubefan5

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like sand to me

@user-yg2up4lg3r

5 жыл бұрын

@@doubleutubefan5 Actually limestone. Which would be wise having a mask on.

What are the cars hauling?

@wheeliemaster100

4 жыл бұрын

Todd Behrends that would be sand screenings

what railroad

@truckstrains9745

4 жыл бұрын

Csx I think

What are they called

DOORA..!!

What's being unloaded?

@sharkheadism

6 жыл бұрын

Sand

Pull here Jack here LOL

Is it an optical illusion or is there hardly any flange left on those wheels?

@petessite

5 жыл бұрын

reckon your right , not a lot of meat on them !!!!

Are there any power tools or good scrapping systems available in the world to empty wet coal filled in wagons. Its a serious concern as the delay in unloading the wagons causes cost increase by way of demurrage.

@COIcultist

5 жыл бұрын

Is it small coal that is sticking together? The NCB/British Coal way was to add a percentage of larger coal to ease handling. All the coal goes through a grinder anyway before being burn in a power station.

What are t hey unloading?

@davidn6124

5 жыл бұрын

Sand

This video needs more effects

Someone could tell me what kind of tool I use to drive the hoppers ?

This is still very inefficient compared to big mining operations in many places that unload multiple hopper cars at same time and empty much more quickly. But this is still pretty damn good

Why are the doors listed B C A?

@user-zc9pq1bz6n

7 жыл бұрын

Originally those were vegetable haulers for broccoli, cauliflower, and asparagus.

@tracynation239

4 жыл бұрын

Brake end, Center, A end. ♡ T.E.N.

Cars look brand new.