I love the inclusion of the music found in the Saluda grade training video, great presentation!

@ingenjelly5480

4 жыл бұрын

Now that's a true fan right there!

@jgalexander510

3 жыл бұрын

Same!

@ThePaulv12

3 жыл бұрын

The training vid was absolutely fascinating. I couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks afterwards.

@kadebruce295

3 жыл бұрын

ThePaulv12 same here! It was fascinating.

@kadebruce295

3 жыл бұрын

Ingen Jelly haha, absolutely.

Best modeler on KZread

16 people are jealous of the amazing realism here. Incredible sound overlay, modeling details, and narration

Interesting video! I’ve driven up and down Saluda mtn. on I-26 many times in my 25 years as a truck driver.

@davidtheriot7404

2 жыл бұрын

Me too brother. I drove for 31 years.

0:10 the Saluda training video music, nice touch!

Love that 80s safety music. Me listening and watching the train be like: 👁👄👁

@brittaneybrownrigg5096

4 жыл бұрын

It's from an NS training video on Saluda operations "The Mountain of Challenge"

@mgr_video_productions

3 жыл бұрын

Go For the Gold is the song name.

VERY cool. I grew up on the lower San Francisco/Santa Clara Peninsula in the late 60s/ early 70s - when every industry was served by rail (and there WAS industry). I remember, at night, hearing not only the local trains running cars to the industries (cement, stone, steel-products, and early computers)... but the Naval Aircraft operating out of NAS Moffett Field.

YESSSS. You used the safety training video song!

@railfanpat1719

3 жыл бұрын

I laughed like hell when I heard the training video music

This was fun to watch and brought back some fond memories. I was fortunate enough to have railfanned Saluda Grade in the spring of 1994 when we chased two relatively new SD70s (Nos. 2502 and 2523, if I remember correctly) up and down the hill. In the morning, they ran from Asheville to Spartanburg. That afternoon, they returned from Spartanburg and tripled the hill, doing exactly what this video shows. We also witnessed a Belmont coal train coming down the hill in the morning with mid-train helpers. Now that was something to see in Melrose, watching this huge train try to keep control, as it cleared the timing section and made it successfully down the mountain.

When I was a kid I can remember watching trains cross suluda mountain. They didn't always break the train up. They some times had slave units mid train and pushers at the end of the train.

Love the inclusion of the grade training video. Thought for a minute a empty Belmont was going up the mountain.

It is interesting that the track is still there, hopefully a tourist line can do something with it. I would hate to see such a historic part of Southeastern Railroading became just another bike trail.

@sauced2007

4 жыл бұрын

I always thought a dinner train would be great. Perhaps from Inman or Landrum to Saluda back or something.

@trainman2226

4 жыл бұрын

It would be dangerous to go down. If a single system fails on the train everyone could die

@redrock717

3 жыл бұрын

It would take a LOT of work to get it back into operating conditions. I believe it has two washouts.

@beeble2003

2 жыл бұрын

@@trainman2226 Up is more dangerous. If something fails on the way down, you still have the locomotives at the front to slow things down: might not be enough, but it's something. If something fails on the way up, you potentially have a cut of cars disconnected from the locomotives and now you're purely reliant on car brakes.

@tavi9598

2 жыл бұрын

As neat as it would be for tourism trains to operate on the grade, it's very dangerous and Norfolk Southern has left it railbanked for exactly that reason. In the event that NS did decide to sell the portion of the W-Line that runs through Saluda, whoever bought it would have to contend with repairing significant damage to the trackbed. There's been two washouts plus the "Miracle Tree" that managed to displace one of the ties when it fell down the hill beside the tracks.

Many of the wood chips pulled up this grade would go to the Champion later Blue Ridge Paper Mill in Canton. They had car loads of chips pulled there all of the time. Sadly enough, Blue Ridge Paper closed recently. Nearly 2000 jobs lost in Haywood County. I don't know if it is still there but there was once a restaurant in Saluda known as the Saluda Grade Cafe. I grew up in Black Mountain near Asheville and remember the sound of the many trains passing through on the NS line before or after passing through the Old Fort Loops and the Swannanoa Tunnel.

Very fascinating operations. I could only imagine what Saluda would be like if mid and rear DPUs were a thing back then

@railfanpat1719

4 жыл бұрын

On the training video that the music came from, when they ran the Belmont over the grade, they used essentially Early DPU as the unmanned mid-train helpers

@UnionCountyPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

You’re all over I go! 😆

@tonyromano6220

3 жыл бұрын

What is a DPU?

@CentralJerseyRailfan

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyromano6220 Distributed Power Unit

You ought to see some of the grades we've had on this side of the pond. At the Foxfield Railway, a preserved quarry in England, there is a 1 in 6 grade out of the engine shed itself, and a 1 in 19 that full trains were dragged up out of the pits on. Now that was a display of power

@beeble2003

2 жыл бұрын

The US used to be full of logging lines running at insane gradients. But Saluda was the steepest _main line_ grade. The steepest main line in the UK is the Lickey Incline, which is "only" 2.65%.

Love the music you got from the original Southern Saluda training video. Pretty cool addition! Nice scale modeling too.

@whiteknightcat

Жыл бұрын

Gives it a very 70's feel!

Love it. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing the trip down.

This is fantastic! What a great production and reenactment . Long live Saluda in HO!

Excellent video! Such a great idea to include the music of the prototype training video! 👍

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4 жыл бұрын

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@iatif1995

2 жыл бұрын

yes

@thedogethatgames

2 жыл бұрын

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Absolutely awesome, and extremely well filmed! I can't wait for the descent back down!

The line itself is just so full of history. Love hearing all the stories about it. Though the Saluda side of the W-Line has been laid to rest, the eastern (Columbia) side is still lively with traffic. 7-8 trains on a daily basis, and will see more in the future as port of Charleston intermodal traffic is on the rise.

Excellent video. I love how you slid the window open on the rear loco after the cut. Nice work Josh.😉👍🏿

That was an epic video! I love how much detail you put into that because it adds a very in depth touch to it!

Killer video as always, love the realism and the detailed explanation of the Saluda Grade operations, well done!

I love it tour Saluda grade oh yeah I have a model railroading niche perfect for my layout thank you very very much God bless.

Fantastic replication of the Saluda-Melrose grade and its operations! Thanks for putting this up.

I could watch your train operations all day long, very well presentation, great explanation of what is happening, love the realistic sounds of the trains and your layout is just plain Bad Ass... 👍👍👍

Fantastic work! The layout, video and information are all superbly done.

Awesome! Looking forward to seeing the downhill return.

I really admire your modeling skills.

Great video, rail fanning to a layout with good narration. Need to see more of this, good stuff, thanks.

Your videos are absolutely, top notch!

Great video Josh. I’m in the testing phase of designing my first real layout. Your videos are very helpful.

Wow! Speechless!!!! That's wonderful!

There was once a whole lot of trains ran thru Asheville. Southern had a pretty big operation at the yard back then. The round house was torn down a long time ago. I think most of the operations there shutdown when it became NS. Champion Paper was wide open back then and pulp wood poured in from the east and south. Coal out of TN came thru going in every direction. Granite gravel from the quarry between Asheville and Canton headed down to the flat lands. Big operation for such a small town like Asheville. Population in the county back then well under 100k. To this day I go up now and then to visit friends. Love to sit up on the mountain and hear the train horns coming up from the valley reliving fond old memories.......

Great video as always! I love these realistic operations videos with the narration.

Hello, super interesting and informative. All wrapped around your wonderful layout. Thanks.

Thanks Josh for another great video.

the Saluda Grade is making its way back into service!

Fascinating stuff.Well explained & presented.

Very nice. Your camera angles create a truly realistic view. Really impressive and one can appreciate your commentary throughout this video. Thanks for sharing. 🚂

Josh, very interesting details. Thanks for sharing!

Amazing video through and through! Loved it!

Excellent work. Based on the material I’ve seen in books this looks a whole lot like Saluda. Thanks.

You have the most realistic HO scale modeling on KZread! Sometimes just for laughs, I cue up the video on my laptop, with no intro, and the sound turned off. Then I invite a non-railfan friend to watch it telling them it's about a steep section of railway. When the video starts, the friend thinks he's watching an actual full size railroad event. At some point I will hear the words, "What the ***k" and he will look at me with complete surprise and amazement! LoL ... It gets them every time!

Great video! Nice touch with addition of the music from the actual NS training video on the Saluda Grade.

Very nice. I never knew about this line! Very interesting! Tripling the hill!

This is fascinating. I lived within walking distance of the track in Tryon, NC.

Beautiful layout and a great video.

Super awesome...as usual, thanks much

Love it. If I may, at 11:27, a real crew would stop and stretch, then the conductor would hook up the air hoses. I always like to do that, it slows things down a little.

Very interesting information. Thanks for sharing.

Excellent video, Josh

Great video !! Adds a lot of operation ideas !!

Hello, I've seen many of your videos and your dad is awesome at making kits. I'm starting a layout of the Missouri River from St. Louis to Kansas City. Your layout is so good Jordan S

Awesome Video of Prototypical operation !!! Barry

@nsmodeler24

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Barry!

I been to the grade once...it was heartbreaking to see it bring overtake by nature again

Fascinating! So what industries are up the hill that require the different types of rolling stock? I recall a photo in TRAINS mag’s 100 Greatest Railroad Photos that shows three NS 6-axle units struggling to pull a cut of wood chip hoppers uphill. Your consist has wood chip cars, boxcars, tank cars, coal and grain hoppers. Videography and scenery really stir the imagination. Great video!

Very well done and enjoyed the video.

Great show 👍

I just left here in real life. I was a dream to see this. Im a former railroader and always heard about saluda. It was awesome to see it in person

Great history lesson Josh and video. Bob

Very fine piece of work! Definitely like the real Saluda!

That would be so cool as a layout itself. Run 8!

this is great, my layout is the Blue Ridge Southern line that now operates those tracks and the line between Asheville and Canton

Amazing model!

That horn is amazing

Great info! Well modeled, too.

Love the music from the Southern Railway training video

How about them Top Hats? Fantastic video, Josh!

@nsmodeler24

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

nice opening 80s safety video music... love it

Great video! The music reminded me of infomercials from the 1990s.

This is way cool...love it!

Really cool layout!

Pretty dope operation!

The cheesey mid 90s self help home video music Really makes this awesome. All that's missing is the old VHS flicker you had to deal with 😁 Love these videos sir, being English our operations work quite differently to yours so it's nice to see how it's done on the other side of the pond ;)

You keep the memory of this alive, for sure. You can see why it's not in operation now.

YES YOU ARE THE BEST MODLER ON KZread. GREAT VIDEO AWESOME VIDEO AND VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO AND YOUR TIME HAVE A GREAT DAY JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA. 👍👌

Awesome layout! I wish I had visited the saluda grade I only live about an hour away in SC

I love this channel and this video but my favorite of all time is the Woodchips and Paper Mills in HO

props for a nod to the southern reproramming the dash 9 horn to a p5!

I love the realism. 👍

The grade can reach 7%. My layout: hold my beer

@ohioandnortheastern

4 жыл бұрын

How steep does it get?

@moose4787

4 жыл бұрын

%5.3? It's near the 8mph timing section iirc.

@just_here_

3 жыл бұрын

@@ohioandnortheastern 00

@tonyromano6220

3 жыл бұрын

I had 4% on my layout on the branch.

@theamericanlocomotive

2 жыл бұрын

I used to have a 10% grade before I fixed it.

Great job.

thanks so much. hey from the River valley in Arkansas

Some great model video work! A colleague at the office couldn't believe he was seeing a model railroad and not the real thing. I was wondering, during the Southern days, pre-merger, what operating division included Saluda? Did employee timetables include instructions for descending the grade? Again, really nice video.

Would love to also see the Downgrade Trip modeled!

Up here in Canada the cp had a grade in bc that was 4.5 percent and the railway abandoned the steep hill in 1909 and built a new railway line with 2 tunnels that make the long trains loop over themselves and the railway grade is today 2.4 percent instead of 4.5 and sometimes 40 trains a day roll through the tunnels

Just like the real grade, l like that, very nice, 👍🏿

Loved the music

Another great video Josh! Been to the prototype & all I wanted to do was put my speeder on the tracks! What kind of set up do you use for recording & editing your videos? Thought I’d ask one of the best....

Love it

Sweet!

Some of the steepest mainline grades in the west: Cajon leaving LA was 3% but now is 2.2% on most tracks Siskiyou CA/OR border reaches 3.67% and SP replaced that as fast as they could with a 2.2% line but the steep line still exists.

I recognize the music !!!! Nice job.

@nsmodeler24

4 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks!

Nobody at Saluda: Me: *Flashbacks of Delay in Block Productions*

Nice video I love your amazing layout josh. Do you know when scaletrains is announcing there ns AC44C6M?

MELVIN WARREN WOULD BE PROUD!!!🛤️

According to @Delay In Block Productions Saluda is still a NS Route just awaiting to be reopened in the future.

@nsmodeler24

4 жыл бұрын

The odds of it being opened is honestly pretty slim, as much as I would love for it to happen!

@railfanpat1719

3 жыл бұрын

Especially with the Old Fort Loops closes to thur trains