Thank you so much for taking the time to film these videos. I've been locked in thoracic extension for so long I've lost kyphosis and your Juggernaut article about it has help lots. I can finally address the cause of my shoulder pain. Again, thank you so much. I wish there was a Clinical Athlete practitioner in my country.

@socloseagain4298

3 ай бұрын

Did u fix ur scapula winging??

Thank you for this. After researching this condition for years, this was by far the most informative and actually effective.

@mr.physio

4 жыл бұрын

👍

I've had an issue like this with my left shoulder. I tried the way to do pushups demonstrated in the video and also the dumbbell press while pushing into the wall and I could feel my left side working much better than it has in quite a while. Thanks for this video! I'll definitely continue to do this before push exercises.

this is so amazing! The orthopedic doctor told me I had SICK scapula... although didn't even explain what that was and the physical therapy didn't do anything.

@itsyaboi5290

4 жыл бұрын

@michael browne thinking bad of other people is bad for your well being man

As you have someone internally rotate and reach behind their back there are two reasons EVERYONE will wing their scapula at end range. 1) The rhomboids become active to medially rotate the scap (they are antagonistic relative to the serratus anterior). The more active the rhomboids are, the less active the serratus anterior will be. 2) As you induce this motion you build tension on the external rotators (teres minor and infraspinatus) which pulls the scapula into a winging position. Unless someone’s scapula is unable to protract, retract, elevate, depress, medially or laterally rotate then the scapula is not an issue. Winging during that initial assessment is not an issue. Stability is important to improve performance and prevent injury, but for the most part mobility is the truest indicator of joint health.

I really loved this Dr. Quinn, he seems to really know what he is doing. I did a few of these exercises tonight & they were ROUGH...

Thanks again, Quinn! Helping me fix myself one video at a time

Thank you for this. As a clinician ive heard so many times that you have to cure scapular winging but NONE OF THESE SO CALLED EXPERTS EVER TELL YOU HOW! Your way is very simple and straightforward

@socloseagain4298

3 ай бұрын

Did u fix ur scapula winging??

Best channel ever. Dr Quinn is the freakin man.

Great video and clear explanation. You just confirmed many of my own thoughts and observations of this 'condition'.

VERY GOOD PRINCIPLES, Dr. Quinn...I will definitely incorporate your methods in my clinic. Thank you, sir!

Thank you for sharing a mid/int. perspective! I've been trying to formulate a series of healing for my extra cervical ribs, and this video helped to guide me to what my body needs. con gratitudine!!!

This video had so much great information in it, thank you for taking the time to make! Also your model was strong and adorable in the best way, subscribed! 🤣💪🏻

Thanks for this, I was told I have this "issue" with my scapula and was skeptical. This video is an eye-opener. THANKS

Thank You, Very Helpful.

Hey, man, great friggin video!! I actually did have some nerve damage and muscular damage from a nasty snowboard crash but after the nerves starting firing again I was led to focus more on pulls to retract the shoulder blades. We thought they were weaker muscles but after years of doing that I was still having issues, I finally figured out after my own research that more pressing was needed. I enjoy your comment about kyphosis being demonized because I fought so hard against it that I'm sure my lack of it led to other issues in the shoulder. It still has a bit of weakness but I can one arm press over 100 so it's getting stronger. Cool videos, I just found them!

@socloseagain4298

3 ай бұрын

Did u fix ur scapula winging??

This man is brilliant. Very cool stuff for the aspiring physical therapists out there, like me!

@qhenochi

7 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear it's helpful, good luck in your journey!

Thank you for this, very helpful.

IMHO: THIS IS AN EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!! THANK YOU!!!

Great content. I've been watching your vids, learning much along the way. Thank you!

great info Thank you Dr. Quinn Henoch

thank you , literally better after loading anatomical isometric tension simulating weight ( no wonder pain went away when applying moving shoulder blades isometric tensioning helped etc , now i have a anatomical sinonims for physiological approach to scapular winging injury cure ) , thankx again

For years I became obsessive about trying to make my scapula flush woth my ribcage and my posture. After being fed so much misinformation on the internet about tucking the shoulder blades, keeping the chest up all the time, keeping shoulders back, ect.. I changed my posture for the worse by over correcting. Now I have knots and extremely tight muscles all around the shoulders and upper back.. hood video, because you get it and you're not just feeding bad info to get views.

Excellent video, intelligent discussion of the "problem". Thanks.

amazing, been doing some of this tuff with athletes, also learned some new stuff ill incorporate with others as well. Thanks, keep these coming!

@davyd19

7 жыл бұрын

using the wall to "load" is great

So glad I discovered your videos!

I have excessive winging on my right shoulder. It's only an issue when I'm doing uni lateral push ups like archer push ups. I've noticed it greatly effects my range on my cross punch. But like hes saying once I warm up the serratus the protraction is great. Thx for info doc!

Awesome. Best explanation I have heard. Thank you.

What, How, When, Where, & Why! Defines when it is problematic and when not to worry about it. With no load it’s the body’s natural way of compensating to achieve mobility and range of motion if the individual trying to achieve the end of their own range, and if that same person can stabilize under load the winging is not necessarily a disfunctional movement pattern. Decreasing winging is just an improvement in motor skills. If winging exist under load, there is the defining identity of a disfunction . I believe this is the best video I have viewed on this subject!

Awesome video this series is brilliant, one on SI joint dysfunction would be very interesting indeed!

@adamnoeasyfeet

5 жыл бұрын

@juggernaut training systems? YA HEAR? Let's rock it!

The video is very informative. I like what you're doing. Do not stop! Each video will teach me something new. and I'm just looking for this content. Thank you Dr. Henoch. :)

@qhenochi

7 жыл бұрын

Glad it's helpful!

@Schnupfndrache7

7 жыл бұрын

Quinn Henoch agreed! i love your videos. thanks

@masaledarbhartiya5831

6 жыл бұрын

Quinn Henoch In ace we have been told that if the vertebral medial bordrr is visible I mean protruding outward then it is scapular protraction and if vertebral bordrr along with inferior angle it is refered as winging ... Any leads ??? Like is it exactly like this ?? Am I right or wrong

extremely informative and very easy to understand.

Omfg! Thank you for this video.. I have this winging terribly.. causing Costochondritis and more.. Will diligently work on fixing this the best I can.. Cheers!

Awesome video. Thanks a lot for sharing. Will incorporate unstable loads to my training routines. ;)

@jorgekane2842

2 жыл бұрын

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@andyrohan6594

2 жыл бұрын

@Jorge Kane Instablaster ;)

Excellent vid doc, thanks for addressing this 'issue'. I've been concerned about this for years, doing all the banded rotator cuff exercises, etc., ad nauseam with no fix. Guess it's time to start doing push-ups again! Side note - Elaine is a great test athlete for these videos.

@qhenochi

7 жыл бұрын

Great Ernesto, glad the info is worthwhile. Yeah, unless the issue is causing some type of obvious functional deficit, it may be an issue at all. Basic strength training with some unilateral loading sprinkled in should do the trick.

@aaronsoodonihm8816

7 жыл бұрын

Quinn Henoch Thanks for responding doc. I have some slight muscular imbalance across my left-right shoulder girdle, but nothing that has ever really effected performance. Again, this was a really great video, you and the JTS team put out a ton of killer content.

@louiscyfer6944

7 жыл бұрын

Ernesto Manuel those banded rotator cuff will not fix scapular winging. but it still shows a muscular imbalance issue, it should be corrected. training the middle and lower traps will go a long way to correct for the imbalance that is at the issue here.

@aaronsoodonihm8816

7 жыл бұрын

louis cyfer Pull-ups, push-ups, and heavy farmer carries have actually been the largest help for me in my recent training. Any specific movements you would recommend? I reversed my over/under grip on deadlift, that seems to be helping as well. I feel like the imbalance is always going to be there, despite years of unilateral training to specifically fix the issue. I know it's common in throwing athletes (I spend most of my youth playing baseball), so I've just accepted that it's probably not going anywhere. I powerlift, so a balanced aesthetic is no longer a priority for me.

@elf153

7 жыл бұрын

Ernesto Manuel Hi ma right arm goes every morning when I wake up ? I have severe in my rt shoulder n right neck , that pain continue in my right breast it's too painful need help

This video speaks to me Dr. Quinn! I'm from Wisconsin and I am just waiting for some clinical athlete practitioners to pop up D:

The body....what a beautiful thing, its crazy what it does and what it can do.

be careful with this, I have scalpula winging and if you do too, loading it makes it worse. pretty much my entire upper body is asymmetrical because of working out with winging.

@editbazelli843

4 жыл бұрын

just load as much needed to activate the serratus anterior, this exercise is not for working out, it is for fixing scapular winging so you should not use a lot of load.

@Itachi0567

4 жыл бұрын

hmm dont know about this... loading in which sense ? every kind of loading ? been lifting for like two years now, had scapular winging my whole life, i think i noticed it at the age of 14, and i bench press 80 kg in my regular series without trouble, i am not feeling asymmetrical either.

@Itachi0567

4 жыл бұрын

I've always thought that the scapular thing is genetic, i happen to be very flexible and also have this like double joints in my thumbs

@AH-rz2zl

4 жыл бұрын

Itachi0567 fo me quite a lot on my left is bigger than my right but I’m stronger on my right hand side

@daytonasayswhat9333

3 жыл бұрын

edit bazelli Define “activate.”

This is really Helpful. Thank you sir!

Excellent instruction. Very helpful.

i was taught the rubber band to engage the scap muscles but your method is adding more load; i like the progression thanks

Very informative! Thank you!!

Great explanation, very educational, thanks!

this is exactly what i needed thanks dr

doing gods work with these informative videos keem em coming brother!

Love the channel. Definitely had the winging at a lighter weight. At 145 lbs my shoulder blades would always flap around. Jumped to 170 lbs and now I gotta struggle to get them to wing. Thinking it's due to strengthening scapula retraction.

@FaCiSmFTW

Жыл бұрын

Great to know thanks. I'm 150 and my goal weight is 170.

great analysis!

Excellent information. I never got any improvement from my shoulder impingement pain and dysfunction until I worked on the scapula stabilisation (winging). Rotator cuff bandwork alone doesn't cut it. Scapula first then add in and include direct rotator cuff work. Great vid

@jonathonthoo432

5 жыл бұрын

Hello, could you elaborate on how you first target the scapula

These are great videos! Thank you!!

She has flawless pushup form. Love it.

I have this on both shoulders. I thought I've been doing push-ups correctly for the past two years until I took a video of me doing push-ups and saw my shoulder blades sticking out 3 inches, even when I'm just laying down on my elbows my shoulder blades go up a good 2 inches.

Great video, thanks!

no doubt about the bell up exercises adding a much more difficulty stability element to it!

Best explanation. Thank you.

FINALLY, someone that knows what they are talking about!

Great video! What if the winging keeps me from being able to press overhead single arm loaded or unloaded?

Very informative!

nice point！I will try! Hope it work!

Both me and my younger brother can flex our scapula to wing out voluntarily. It only goes out if I want it to. I never thought it was something weird until today.

Thank you!! Amazing info

Amazing very helpful thanks a lot

"A light kettle, 18 pounds" Damn I'm weak xD

As an experienced yoga teacher with a post grad, I have seen plenty of 'winging scapula' apparently caused simply by muscle weakness and poor posture. What is your advice to the people who don't typically wing without load, but under load their scaps are popping off the back. This tricep pushup position (in yoga we call it chaturanga where we lower down) often makes people wing when they don't have the muscular support there. I get them to lower with the knees on the floor to reduce the load on the upper body but would you recommend any specific cue or movement? I'd like to see this demonstrated on a model who isn't already athletic and strong. Most average, bordering on sedintary people couldn't manage what your model did. Could it also be too much pec minor strain on the way down and not enough upper back 'action' ?

@Sam-yu4ve

Жыл бұрын

same with me, my scapula doesnt wing at rest, but when i get into the push up position by left scapula wings noticibly.

@0900McShizzle

Жыл бұрын

Exercises that target the upper back and scapula region should fix it

@seandenahy5378

Жыл бұрын

Imo it needs to be treated outside of a class with exercises such as acapula push ups. It'd be basically impossible to cue them to not wing as they don't have the neurological connection to control or use the scapula correctly.

@geekygirl648

Жыл бұрын

Should a winging scapula patient consult neurologist or just physical therapy is enough?

This works! Thank you!

i have that problem...and id love to see you working with someone that have that has winging sqapula.and thank you that video is amezing and very halpful:)

Great video! Would you give us some tips on how to maneuver the kettlebell if you perform these exercises on your own? In the video, you are spotting her. Thank you.

Thanks you so much dr.

Superb video.

Keep it up! video is very helpful

Very good facts, myth busting and coaching!

I injured my shoulder doing behind the neck press many years ago. I've seen a shoulder specialist, and had an MRI, but all the chest showed was there was some instability. Presently I've been doing scapula exercises but I still have pain whenever I perform shoulder exercises, even with very light weights.

Thank you

I had trigeminal neuralgia, the nerves all way through my to arms go numb all the time, it only gotten better loading the shoulders and doing Olympic lifting, I'll often feel my bicep pop in when mouth my mouth after a broken jaw, but I can move just incredibly weird sensations that do not hinder movement or range of motion? It's incredible you truely do train you nervous system

thank you for this. I have scapular winging in both shoulders, along with bilateral labrum tears and partial rotator cuff tear. What do you recommend for correcting this problem safely with such injuries? Had an orthopedic surgeon tell me I have "loose joints" so the tears are not getting fixed. I got some 1 lb walking weights to start out with because my shoulder snapped really loudly while lifting a 2 lb kitten after a series of trigger point injections (that did not help). I will look for your recommended doctor list and browse your channel. much appreciated info. with gratitude.

This is a great video. But if there is shoulder popping and ribs protruding on same side could that entail something else?

What do you reccomend for a slightly higher unstable left shoulder? I contract my left bicep(which is also tight af) then holding contraction externally rotate, which makes my upper back om that side spaz out and flings my arm into downward internal rotation(to relieve the cramp). I did the exact same thing to my right shoulder...flexed bicep and externally rotated much further and didn't get a cramp/spasm forcing(more like springing) my arm down and into internal rotation....my question is this a rotator cuff problem or could it be a list of possible issues?

12:41 Best moment 😄

Excellent video. Can you also make a video on snapping scapular syndrome?

Very Good SIR. Thanks.

Great Video!!!

Right on brother. A few critiques just to play devils advocate. The spinal accessory nerve can also produce winging, although lateral instead of medial. Long thoracic nerve compression can happen as seen in thoracic outlet, resulting in an Atraumatic winging. The long thoracic nerve is purely motor, non-sensory so it is plausible one may not know when or how their nerve was damaged. Also, many with clinically significant scapular winging show little to no signs of wallerian degeneration, so while I agree that complete denervation will produce obvious deficits, it is not safe to assume negative EMG rules out damage to the nerve (at some point). Just because someone’s nerve healed doesn’t mean they automatically get that function back! Cheers bro!

Yeah, I can "load" my scapula, but that doesn't help me the rest of the 24 hours in the day.

Fantastic!

Great video. Thank you for posting. However, while standing or kneeling, weights above the shoulder (in a military press form)....aren't you in a shoulder impingement setup?

I need this Dr

fantastic explanation....tku

Excellent 🙏🏻

so good!

You look and sound like Penn Badgley! Great video too! Thank you! Thumbs up!

Very good video.

I have noticed how the shoulder blade glides smoothly across the ribcage when I use Gymnastic rings or do the pushups on my knuckles as your athlete did. When I do the push-up on me hands close to the chest and try to keep my elbow close to the ribcage, the medial border sticks out and flaps over before I get to the retracted bottom position. Do you know why that is? Thank you so much for this great informative video!’

13:00 activating muscles can cure your winging

@daytonasayswhat9333

3 жыл бұрын

Define “activate.”

awesome vid

I herniated my C5/C6 disk and injured my LTN which caused winging in my right arm and I have noticeable decreased strength and size loss, as well as mobility in my arm. Will be starting PT soon once I recover from my Artificial Disk Replacement. Hopefully I can come back from it relatively soon.

Thank you. Too much worried about that i was

It would good if you could also do a video where loading the scapula makes the winging worse, as it does with me. When I do a push up, the winging becomes more severe. The heavier the load the harder it is for me to keep the shoulder blade flush against my rib cage. Happens with push ups, bicep curls - pretty much anytime I load up. If the weight is very light then I can keep it flush, but I run out of strength to hold flush if the load is too much. Assume I need to strengthen the right muscles. Can you do a video to address this as well?

@jamesmatthew5404

11 ай бұрын

Did u fix it? If so how?

Amazing guy

Great vid

Hi Quinn, Nice video! Do you think this specific positioning of the scapula is also beneficial for rowing of shrugging type movements? I sometimes feel that the cue to retract the shoulder blades en pull them into depression is provoking the "winging" of my shoulder blades.

This vid is so underrated