Mobility Myths with Dr. Quinn Henoch | Foam Rolling | JTSstrength.com

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Dr. Quinn Henoch will be discussing the pros and cons behind several popular mobility ideas, starting with Foam Rolling:
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  • @petramarion
    @petramarion7 жыл бұрын

    As a physiotherapist this is music to my ears! So happy that the right kind (evidence-based) of information is getting to people. I really dislike that foam rolling is called myofascial release while it is just neuromodulation.

  • @MrSupernova111

    @MrSupernova111

    4 жыл бұрын

    What evidence? Because all I heard here was opinion. Evidence would be peer reviewed research and not one single study was mentioned here. You sound like a very close-minded person looking for ways to validate and reinforce your belief system instead of expanding your views with new and actual evidence. This entire video was fluff.

  • @AceofDlamonds

    @AceofDlamonds

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSupernova111 What do you mean "opinion"? This is evidence-based science. You know Dr. Quinn mentions studies in the other mobility myths vids?

  • @TheSandkastenverbot

    @TheSandkastenverbot

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrSupernova111 I think you don't understand the word "evidence"

  • @coacherikjohnson6706
    @coacherikjohnson67067 жыл бұрын

    Been doing this for a bunch of years with a lot of success. Short and sweet between sets. Great stuff. Thanks Quinn.

  • @yuyos6606
    @yuyos66067 жыл бұрын

    Great video ! I used the clinical athlete directory to find a PT near me and man he is a blessing. Ben has truly changed my life and has taken me out of the pain which I barely managed to endure for a full year due to FAI and an anterior labrum tear. Dr. Quinn I want to personally thank you for making such informative videos based on evidence based research and the clinical athlete directory. You have changed my life.

  • @peterkeleher
    @peterkeleher7 жыл бұрын

    great video - i actually reduced my foam rolling time, its good to know im on the right track with that

  • @dupatrick5666
    @dupatrick56664 жыл бұрын

    Dr.Quinn , could you please do a mechanism understanding of the massage gun like this one ? Is it the similar idea to the foam rolling ?

  • @mr.physio

    @mr.physio

    4 жыл бұрын

    very similar

  • @hm1rza
    @hm1rza7 жыл бұрын

    JST you have winner in Dr. Quinn Henoch ! Always very clear and to the point. KUDOS

  • @bujacik9N
    @bujacik9N7 жыл бұрын

    Seriously: Thank you thank you thank you for making these videos. I've been a personal trainer for 9 years and this is easily the best channel I've found on youtube. Love your videos, great information.

  • @MA-ii3gm

    @MA-ii3gm

    7 жыл бұрын

    K Marie where did you became a personal trainer?

  • @bujacik9N

    @bujacik9N

    7 жыл бұрын

    I started years ago teaching bootcamp/martial arts at a local academy. Then I earned my cert through NESTA and started training at 24 hour fitness. Now I am certified through ACE and run a private gym for a corporate office :) Been an awesome career!

  • @daytonasayswhat9333

    @daytonasayswhat9333

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s not really his channel.

  • @ckipnis10
    @ckipnis107 жыл бұрын

    This is what I did my master's thesis on! I love to see the same discussion from what I found in my research

  • @sjgardne

    @sjgardne

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do you have your thesis online?

  • @ckipnis10

    @ckipnis10

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@sjgardne It is. Just got published a few months ago. Titled "Incorporating Foam Rolling After a Walking Warm-up Does Not Increase Hamstring Flexibility"

  • @MrSupernova111

    @MrSupernova111

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ckipnis10 . Sounds like a very narrow view on the benefit of "Foam Rolling." A better thesis would have been on the overall benefits of foam rolling.

  • @ckipnis10

    @ckipnis10

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSupernova111 Thank you for your feedback. My goal was to look just at the variable of range of motion as the previous literature was inconclusive.

  • @MrSupernova111

    @MrSupernova111

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chloe Kipnis . Understandable. Congratulations on your masters. Cheers.

  • @delciemcwhoopie
    @delciemcwhoopie7 жыл бұрын

    request for more Dr. Quinn videos please, JTS.

  • @islander1
    @islander17 жыл бұрын

    mind blown. I'm going to try this out. Foam rolling in between sets, versus 10-15 minutes in warmup.

  • @etanner11
    @etanner117 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. Very informative and clear as are the other JTS videos and trainers. Any chance you could do a video on dry needling? Science, benefits, risks, etc...?

  • @PFOLEY
    @PFOLEY7 жыл бұрын

    I've had a 60 lbs kettlebell for the last year. I have also started having pain and tightness in my left hip flexor (extreme pain standing after sitting for a while). I've noticed that when I do swings and goblets squats with my 60 lb KB 2-4 times a week (3 sets of 10) I become pain free.

  • @trevor_btg
    @trevor_btg6 жыл бұрын

    I’m also a DPT, although a new grad. I can’t thank you enough for this information. It gets hard to explain to people that these effects are short term and tissue doesn’t “break.” I’m not sure why we’d want that even if we could do it. I like your example with the heavy barbell, my personal favorite is using the pressure on our feet while standing. Wouldn’t that “break” tissue and turn you into a puddle? Great informative EB video.

  • @fernandomurillo2771
    @fernandomurillo27717 жыл бұрын

    Keep the videos coming awesome and very helpful information!!!!

  • @fredastaire6156
    @fredastaire61565 жыл бұрын

    I wish more people would talk about the research behind myofacial release. It is so prevalent that everyone is doing however I have yet to see stable long term results. The questions that Dr. Henock presents are worth asking. Thank you for this video!

  • @gingerbreadboy
    @gingerbreadboy7 жыл бұрын

    This is the exact way I've been doing things for my hip pain in my back squat, do a warm up set then do some foam rolling, do a set then some band distraction, do a set then some hip planes and by the time on my working sets the pains almost gone.

  • @zezty4295
    @zezty42956 жыл бұрын

    your videos helped me allot man after spending allot of money and being told nothing is wrong when my right side is clearly dropped and scapular wing wich you helped me realize isnt that bad and fixable.thanks again.

  • @Daaadavid1
    @Daaadavid17 жыл бұрын

    great content. a video about trigger points and release techniques would also be great

  • @CrossFitAddict1
    @CrossFitAddict17 жыл бұрын

    I used to spend 10-15 minutes foam rolling and using a lacrosse ball after lifting. However as my training time increased and I didn't want to spend the time after I started doing exactly what Dr Quinn has spoke about in this video. I use the foam roller, lacrosse ball and bands to stretch and help gain mobility in the areas that are tight when I am warming up. I have seen no loss in mobility, if anything maybe more and found I move a lot better during my squats and say snatches.

  • @micpadovano
    @micpadovano7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Thank you very much for sharing!

  • @Heatherjoporter24
    @Heatherjoporter245 жыл бұрын

    Hello! I realize this is an old video but thank you for posting! I’ve recently become really curious about the mechanisms of Manuel therapy and when I ask people tend to make something up as opposed to giving a evidence-based response. Great video!

  • @MrSupernova111

    @MrSupernova111

    4 жыл бұрын

    What evidence was mentioned here? Because I didn't hear about any peer reviewed research in this video. Just a bunch of fluff backed by opinion.

  • @JohnnyGarman
    @JohnnyGarman6 жыл бұрын

    How are massages working? Or is that a perception thing, too? I gotta say, if it is, it's one hell of a placebo effect.

  • @christineharrelson4831

    @christineharrelson4831

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's our nervous systems that create lasting relief/changes in the body. So in very simple terms, how well we're able to relax and not be in fight or flight while receiving massages determines how well our tissues takes to the work being done.

  • @longboarderanonymous5718

    @longboarderanonymous5718

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@christineharrelson4831 So for long term relief, one must be able to relax the areas of tension on one's own accord. So massages are crutches since they only relieve the symptoms and not the actual cause.

  • @longboarderanonymous5718

    @longboarderanonymous5718

    5 жыл бұрын

    I found that full-range, multi-planar movements along with eccentric exercises (lite hand weights) are very effective at relieve tension or knots. (AKA Dynamic stretching)

  • @thomashoran3073

    @thomashoran3073

    4 жыл бұрын

    Strident Atheist many research studies have shown that blood lactate concentration levels (lactic acid is just a byproduct of glycolysis) actually diminish within minutes post exercise through oxygen uptake. So unless you’re getting a massage 1 min after a workout, your theory is incorrect.

  • @steelyburt

    @steelyburt

    4 жыл бұрын

    I see no harm in enjoying an occasional steak in the Matrix

  • @EWQWEQQD
    @EWQWEQQD7 жыл бұрын

    Just great. Glad to see that more and more people start to integrate evidence-based knowledge into clinical practise. Well done!

  • @fredastaire6156
    @fredastaire61567 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, this is gold!! Thanks Dr. Quinn!

  • @CGPS2019
    @CGPS20197 жыл бұрын

    Dr. James Franco?

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    I get that a lot

  • @footbal218

    @footbal218

    7 жыл бұрын

    Arturo Iribe I see more of a Freddie Mercury

  • @xxcrysad3000xx

    @xxcrysad3000xx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Noone is hotter than Freddie Mercury. Noone.

  • @milkytoad8388

    @milkytoad8388

    6 жыл бұрын

    He doesn’t even look like him

  • @Laotzujm
    @Laotzujm5 жыл бұрын

    According to NASM's protocol the foam rolling gets the golgi tendon organ to relax which gets the muscle to relax. Any thoughts on that?

  • @BigJL5288
    @BigJL52887 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know how you square this with "tight muscles" that are relieved through pressure techniques. For instance, I had a very tight quad and I used a foam roller to apply pressure to the muscle, then used contract/relax cycles along with breathing techniques to coax the muscle into "letting go". This worked amazingly well and the result was that the huge chorded muscle (that felt like I had a frozen beef tenderloin tucked in there) disolved away and took the pain and tightness with it. I agree that the change is 100% neuromuscular. I don't agree that it is neccessarily a short term sensory distraction. Thanks for your time

  • @jimmycrackedcorn226
    @jimmycrackedcorn2267 жыл бұрын

    This channel is amazing. Subbed!

  • @dandyandy3002
    @dandyandy30024 жыл бұрын

    I love this! I am a current physiotherapy student and I would love to read up on the research presented in video. Cheers

  • @sefas666
    @sefas6667 жыл бұрын

    Wow man, thats informative! What should i foam roll if my right knee hurts? A little bit inside and down. Not only when i squat also walking all the time. Thank You!

  • @fitnessplatoon6382
    @fitnessplatoon63827 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a great video. I experience feeling good after foam rolling and have tried to implement in between working set during deadlifts and I felt like it relieved some tension. I was told that I was "loosening" my muscles up and this was dangerous in a complex movement like deadlift? Does this make any sense to you? Thanks in advance, Richard

  • @Chaosdude341
    @Chaosdude3417 жыл бұрын

    Very digestible. Enjoy this series quite a bit.

  • @vibraforcebyfitnessevolution
    @vibraforcebyfitnessevolution4 жыл бұрын

    Would greatly enjoy your feedback on how percussive hand-held devices can effect the fascia.

  • @EricBurnetMusic
    @EricBurnetMusic5 жыл бұрын

    Great advice, thanks.

  • @asleepwithyou
    @asleepwithyou6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Quinn I really appreciate this video, along with the rest of the mobility myths series. I'm a first year Osteopathy student and am interested in finding some more info on the original studies you are referring to where they were testing on rats, do you have some sort of link/reference for this? Thanks again for your work!

  • @brunoaraujo2128
    @brunoaraujo21286 жыл бұрын

    Hi, first of all good video, I agree with what you said, although I do some good use at my foam roller sometimes, but, when I do, I like to finish with some stretching for the areas I've rolled, I believe I've seen research on it, for a longer term effect and to get something more beneficial than just foam rolling, what you think about it?

  • @richman360
    @richman3604 жыл бұрын

    This is actually very helpful. I the bit of information :)

  • @user3657
    @user36577 жыл бұрын

    I'm not going to say I have any knowledge here, but I have sat for close 15 years, and I can for sure say that takes a toll on your body. I've been seeing drs for 2 years now, and everyone wants to work my "injuries". my only injury ever was a pec tear. after 2 years I know that is never going to help me. I can't find any body like Vinne rehab to fix my posture, so I'm taking it upon myself to release my whole body a few times a week. I use a ball and roller and after 20mins of this I am standing so much taller, arms hang lower, shoulders are behind me, and forearms pop out, and this is because my body is transferring signals? no way. I can see a dramatic difference when getting dressed in how much it's helping my back muscles pop out. I was doing my shoulder 3x a day to help it and my Dr asked what the hell was I doing being it was so lose compared to my good shoulder. self release absolutely 100 percent does restore tissue.

  • @SnakeC666
    @SnakeC6667 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting information. Well thank you. Continue further up the good work. I wonder more about the most effective type of stretching :)

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    Whatever gives you the short term range of motion benefit to use in training is the best kind. Lots of options there depending on context

  • @poste1otto
    @poste1otto5 жыл бұрын

    question : you speak about loading weight after roaling, is it also effective to stretch after foam rolling? Do i gain anything to use the roll before stretching an area?

  • @rickcr1205
    @rickcr12057 жыл бұрын

    So I've been working on correcting anterior pelvic tilt. From my reading, the consensus seems that the primary cause is tight hip flexors/psoas and weak glutes/hams and weak abs (core.) I've been using a larger ball in the lower gut to try to loosen up the psoas and using it on the upper quads as well. If this isn't really going to help long term, what do you recommend to lengthen/fix the tighter hip flexors? Or overall, what's the primary thing to work on for those with ATP.. should I primarily stick to static stretching for the hip flexors and skip all the rolling (that of course, like others have mentioned, Kelly Starrett so highly recommends.) Thanks!

  • @joshnoiseux
    @joshnoiseux7 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video!

  • @TMFitness
    @TMFitness6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent description.

  • @scottgunter5398
    @scottgunter53987 жыл бұрын

    With this in mind, it draws into question instrument assisted techniques and active release. What have you seen in the research on your end?

  • @STEELPHIT
    @STEELPHIT7 жыл бұрын

    Doctor of Physical Therapy student here. Great series on this channel. Thanks! So, to clarify, you are saying that foam rolling is similar to TENS in treating c/o pain (and/or stiffness in an implication involving foam rolling) in that it is a neuro-physiological process (i.e. gating mechanism and other theories associated with sx relief from TENS application) that is short in duration of relief; AND, even though you say " 'perceived' newly gained ROM", the ROM gain post foam rolling IS truly there, but it is due to a process that the literature cannot currently answer with certainty. Is this an accurate summary of what you are saying?

  • @magumi3748
    @magumi37487 жыл бұрын

    I use the foam roller before training to release verterbrae in the thoracic spine by lying on it and stretching, turning and letting the spine loosen up a little bit.

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    It it works for you, then that's great! I'd just recommend finding the minimum effective dose in order to maximize the use of your time.

  • @Lertpipopmetha
    @Lertpipopmetha7 жыл бұрын

    Very informative I've spent way too mch time foam rolling on a daily basis. Bt does this mean that foam rolling post exercise in regards to increase recovery and mobility is actually not doing us anygood??

  • @McMeatBag
    @McMeatBag7 жыл бұрын

    Great advice. Never tried foam rolling in between sets

  • @tallcip65
    @tallcip657 жыл бұрын

    Can you link some of the literature that focuses on the perceived changes from mobility tools?

  • @ihaveproblems1360
    @ihaveproblems13607 жыл бұрын

    Hi Quinn, what about knots/tight spots/trigger points? Do they exist if so what exactly do we solve by getting rid of them? I was also reading a blog by Andreo Spina who agreed with you on what MFR really does, but he did say that that applying pressure and sliding did break up the fibrosis. I can't find the article now though!

  • @santosmichelena3519
    @santosmichelena35197 жыл бұрын

    I foam roll before static stretching cause it supposedly decompresses your muscles or something like that, am I doing everything wrong?

  • @JacksTeam
    @JacksTeam7 жыл бұрын

    Hi, You talk about short term effects only. That is why I recommend to my athletes to roll 30" to 2' actively before training and between sets. But if you consider stretching for creating a real change (for example someone wtih tight psoas), is it the right strategy to use it for minutes after training or on a rest day relaxed and breathing properly ?

  • @hunterchristian4376

    @hunterchristian4376

    7 жыл бұрын

    No. Stretching is bad and inhibits muscles. Don't be stupid

  • @petramarion

    @petramarion

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jack's Team The effect of stretching is actually quite the same. We cannot lengthen our muscles by stretching or foam rolling, we are only making a change in the nervous system, it's called neuromodulation. If we do these things regularly there might be a tissue change, but I haven't read any studies on it. Actually eccentric exercises help to relieve the tight feeling in muscles as well and they produce a tissue change.

  • @andrewsong7760
    @andrewsong77607 жыл бұрын

    So would you foam roll and do dynamic work only before and after warm up sets, and not between working numbers? And if so, why exactly?

  • @hongjack5998
    @hongjack59987 жыл бұрын

    So does foam rolling routine after exercises help us to recover?

  • @reecostewart2788
    @reecostewart27887 жыл бұрын

    Could you recommend articles on the topic

  • @lntimidatingxbl5857
    @lntimidatingxbl58577 жыл бұрын

    I still find it to work wonders on my calves, instantly relieving my tight ankles and shin splints. I basically go on the side of my calf, cross my other leg on top of that one, so then all my bodyweight is on the one calf and my two hands. I then find a tender point, and start plantar flexing/dorsilflexing my ankle and spin it in circles. I've found that the best way to relieve tight ankles. I also do the same for my forearms and my carpal tunnel is gone. But the pain always finds its way back eventually.

  • @islander1

    @islander1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Same here. I used to get charley horses in my calves regularly - typically while sleeping. Then I started foam rolling. At first it was nightly, right before bed. A year later, I don't need to anymore, just when I lift.

  • @jakemarshall3406
    @jakemarshall34067 жыл бұрын

    I keep injuing my quad (rectus) or adductors when i sprint. i went to see a physio and he said it was a problem with my hips making my muscles too tight. he gave me some small exercises but stressed that i hit the foam roller as much as possible to loosen everything up. Is this pointless? in terms of preventing further injury?

  • @RNBenM
    @RNBenM7 жыл бұрын

    What are your thoughts on Active Release Therapy? Does the intense pressure and instrumentation used have any actual physical benefits or is it still sensory? The reason I ask is ART has exploded in popularity and so many fitness enthusiasts swear by it now.

  • @billionairefaith1
    @billionairefaith15 жыл бұрын

    What do you think of the precursor guns like tim tam tim or thera gun?

  • @WeighedWilson
    @WeighedWilson6 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with this video. I bought three different foam rollers and I had zero improvement a day after using each. They taste horrible and I think they cause constipation.

  • @oscarthroedsson1227
    @oscarthroedsson12277 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering. If this is a neuro thing, i guess we stimulate, neuro muscles effectiveness? Wouldn't band floss stimulate the same way for example running? That you floss 1-2min before you start running? I use FMR, for warm-up 30 sec/ primary muscle -> warm up set -> FMR primary muscle -> low loading set -> FMR primary muscle -> increasing load set and i keep on going until i feel the sweat starting and the mobility working fine. Would you say this could be an example on how we can use it?

  • @lukabaric7017
    @lukabaric70177 жыл бұрын

    why is it that the first time you foam roll a sensitive spot it kills and makes you cringe and grunt in pain, but the 10th time you foam roll the same spot there is almost no pain at all when you rest all your weight on it? my lower back was aching all the so i foam rolled by lumbar area and glutes and this is exactly what happened, also no more lower back pain

  • @Prophetelf
    @Prophetelf7 жыл бұрын

    So foam roll between sets of warm up for maximum efficiency?

  • @sinatrashotya
    @sinatrashotya7 жыл бұрын

    So then if I have lots of tension in my knees, is it basically impossible to meaningfully loosen up those tendons? I've been told by my physical therapist that massaging those tendons would break up scar tissue and allow the stretch to not be so tight.

  • @bigbowey21
    @bigbowey217 жыл бұрын

    Especially when increasing ankle mobility, foam rolling is one of the keys to help mobility obviously if paired with stretching. I am assuming you are talking about foam rolling on its own, however how can foam rolling exactly help if one is rolling everyday

  • @__-yw1hb
    @__-yw1hb7 жыл бұрын

    The only area I've found my foam roller to be useful is alleviating and getting past DOMS particularly on the (upper) leg

  • @izac6988
    @izac69887 жыл бұрын

    Where can I find the papers about the pressures needed to structurally change (or not change) tissues?

  • @-Rickster-
    @-Rickster-6 жыл бұрын

    Would this mean that physical massage (Swedish and sports massage etc) would be the same as foam rollering? I.e. It's a short terms neurological benefit which would reset quickly?

  • @1OTDM
    @1OTDM6 жыл бұрын

    In the book "Scientific Stretching" Kurz posits that a huge component of stretching is neurological. In essence it sounds like you are saying something similar. That being said, training your body's natural neurological response to stretching is still effective and important for athletes. If your minds natural reaction to stretching is to tense up, and foam rolling combats that response then it is helpful.

  • @DanielRiveroPadilla
    @DanielRiveroPadilla7 жыл бұрын

    I got the foam roller thing, but what about stretching, should I do it between the warm up sets or it is good to do it before and after the training, usually I do it before.

  • @kring3l0rd
    @kring3l0rd7 жыл бұрын

    thought foamrolling was about the muscles being cramped and so you massage em. what i did was cut a pool noodle and i roll along my back, agAinst a wall or flooor. it cracks some vertrlebrae and ribs as well,wich is nice

  • @smidgens1
    @smidgens14 жыл бұрын

    So long term fix for a tight upper glute? I cant get my left foot over my right knee whilst in a wall squat position. From what you're saying foam rolling will only ever be a short term fix. How can I make it permanently more mobile?

  • @SakariMover
    @SakariMover7 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Henoch, I have a question. I went to a PT a while ago and he basically said something along the lines of: There is a jello-like structure of acids or something that build up in between the muscle and the bag(?) that holds the muscle, which we feel as the tight, sore spots. And the myofascial manipulation promotes an inflammation response that helps break down the jello. Sorry, I'm unsure of the terminology, because the conversation was in Finnish. Is there any truth to this? Or is it a different thing? Thanks!

  • @dfreeze55
    @dfreeze557 жыл бұрын

    Hey Quinn, What about using foam rollers and lacrosse balls to relieve muscle knots and tight fascia. I found your videos very interesting but for someone like me with a hyperkyphosis, winged scapula and all the tightness and pain that comes with it, it seems you discount some other benefits of stretching and rolling. Pain relief, general muscle relaxation and blood flow as well as relief from muscle knots that develop are extremely helpful. Would love to hear your thoughts. Cheers

  • @p4inmaker
    @p4inmaker7 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much confirms everything I've always thought. Good stuff.

  • @Nerdybdirty
    @Nerdybdirty6 жыл бұрын

    So weighted stretching is the most effective for long term relief?

  • @runescapeclassicable
    @runescapeclassicable7 жыл бұрын

    what about foam rolling for recovery purposes? and because ur body is beat up of poor posture/long time lifting. increase bloodflow ? some people say they foam roll just substitute of massage cause its do it anywhere whenever you want. your take on it ?

  • @sarahscott9413
    @sarahscott94137 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! I know the mind is amazing, but I have experienced muscles (seemingly) physically softening/loosening, as in--to the touch, post lacrosse ball work. Is this really just a change of mental perception? It really seems like an actual physical change. I'm intrigued.

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great question Sarah. Unfortunately, there is just little to no evidence of the contrary; and they have tried. It could be the increased blood flow that changes the feeling in the tissue, or some kind of neurological 'release'; but we have been unable to verify or measure anything like that at this time. Also, if it were truly breaking up your cellular structure, then the barbell would make you absolutely disintegrate. Having said that, if you feel a difference, than it 'works'. Do what's best for you. I would just recommend using the minimum effective dose, to maximize the use of your time.

  • @SaiYeNz

    @SaiYeNz

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's not just a proprioception. I get massages regularly. At first the therapist commented that my muscles "feels like rocks". Over many regular sessions it has progressively gotten softer and looser. There is actual physical change. Also, regarding "if it were truly breaking up your cellular structure, then the barbell would make you absolutely disintegrate." SMR with a lax ball would put your bodyweight on to a very small area of your muscle. A barbell distributes the weight across a much much wider area. The appropriate statement statement should be ""if it were truly breaking up your cellular structure, then a 1 ton barbell would make you absolutely disintegrate." I haven't tried it but i would guess the latter part of that statement is reasonably accurate.

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    +SaiYeNz Thank you for the response. I understand you feel that there is cellular change, but at this time, the actual controlled, scientific evidence is weighted towards the contrary. My statements in the video are not simply my opinion; they are based on the peer-reviewed literature.

  • @SaiYeNz

    @SaiYeNz

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm not talking about one's own perception. I'm talking about someone else who is manually working on the muscle. They feel for the "knot" with their hands and put pressure on it until it subsides. And on the next pass, that "knot" is gone. How do you explain that if it is just in "my own head"?

  • @sarahscott9413

    @sarahscott9413

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Quinn--very fascinating!

  • @name2103
    @name21035 жыл бұрын

    how about the concept of trigger point therapy? is that a myth? i do foam rolling outside of workouts because i heard about "trigger points". i really appreciated your demonstration of foam rolling at the beginning because thats how i feel when im foam rolling.

  • @thomasofarrell5524
    @thomasofarrell55247 жыл бұрын

    However, what is your opinion on autogenic inhibition. Golgi tendon organs (mechanoreceptors) that once a fascia is under to much tension or pressure your GTOs overrides muscle spindles relaxing the muscle. I.e. When you reach your max during a bench press and feel you cannot press any more your pectorals and synergists etc completely relax (GTOS). The same surely applies when your SMR or foam roll, resulting in knots or adhesions relaxing...

  • @dus65
    @dus656 жыл бұрын

    So what about foam rolling in the context of massage /recovery therapy? Albeit probably not the most effective or precise, but in the respect that it’s bringing blood to the muscle to flush out lactic acid, bring nutrients, etc.

  • @NicholasGrove19
    @NicholasGrove197 жыл бұрын

    "Breaking up the cellular structure" sounds a bit different from unsticking tissues that are stuck together. Regrettably, I neglected to post my results on pubmed; but when I first started getting into mobility work, I did a side-by-side comparison of "pec" (any relevant tissues in the pec area) restriction. I first tested both pecs by abducting my arms while maintaining my arms at about a 50-60° angle to the ground in an externally rotated position, and each side turned out to be about the same. I then proceeded to smash only my left pec with a few different tools (the most effective method seemed to be the "tack and floss" method using my hand as the "tack") for about 10-15 minutes, and retested. Upon retesting, my left arm abducted smoothly until the joint ran out of range, while I experienced some restriction (fuzz, stickyness, etc.) in the right pec area as I approached end range. I have ruled out placebo, because: 1) I objectively quantified (the best I could; unfortunately, there exists no unit of measurement to describe tissue fucked-upness) my result, rather than claiming it "feels better" in some abstract way; 2) I did not expect to experience noticeable change.

  • @VyTran-ew9yi

    @VyTran-ew9yi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you take any measures to note the difference between the two sides in abduction?

  • @karthik_silkroads
    @karthik_silkroads6 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @Mentalcheez
    @Mentalcheez7 жыл бұрын

    Could you describe which foam-rolling techniques would be good for the corresponding tightness? For example, tightness on the front of the hips while descending into a squat could be relieved by rolling the hip flexors with a medicine ball (or even lacrosse ball). I guess this could be a future video in and of itself..

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Niaz, I'll likely not do videos on rolling techniques, because it doesn't have to be complicated. If you feel tightness, roll it and the area all around. Trial and error and experimentation is the key.

  • @geewhizdude21
    @geewhizdude217 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure if you still look back at comments on this, but the Rat explanation was enormously helpful. With that being said does Graston tool usage amount to the same effect? Or does that actually bring about physiological change (and bruises)?

  • @henriquerocha5453
    @henriquerocha54536 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I have.a big question. With these methods we get a temporary range off motion, but is ir safe? Will we get strengh in that range of motion or the risk of injurie is too high? Provably the reason everybody is (trying to) overhead squating even dont have strengh and the real mobility (not just temporary)

  • @backfru
    @backfru7 жыл бұрын

    foam roll, then static stretch after a workout? have you come across any research on the link between self-myofascia work (rolling,massage etc) and neurotransmitters?

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm not familiar with any, but that would certainly fall under the umbrella of neurophysiological effect. Ultimately do what works for you. What we are more sure of right now is what foam rolling doesn't do moreso than what it does.

  • @mamunurrashid5652
    @mamunurrashid56522 жыл бұрын

    Whatever....Form rolling...self message feels so good. My DOMS is so low,if I foam roll or self message...Sleep and resting period improve,too(for me)

  • @georglaasikphysiotherapy9416
    @georglaasikphysiotherapy94166 жыл бұрын

    Amazing stuff

  • @TonyHStanley
    @TonyHStanley4 жыл бұрын

    Which is better, foam rolling, stretching, or massage?

  • @name2103
    @name21035 жыл бұрын

    also what about going for a sports massage? does that aid recovery or help prevent injury? because when i foam roll, thats essentially what im trying to do. re-create some of the effect i might get at a sports massage. but if i go to get a sports massage its usually not specifically between sets, its just a general massage, and i don't do anything in particular after to "use" the short term effect. so is sports massage a myth too?

  • @kiyasuihito
    @kiyasuihito7 жыл бұрын

    So why do some people get bruises after foam rolling if it doesn't release the fascia?

  • @hatekast
    @hatekast6 жыл бұрын

    I had throbbing knee pain in my left knee for 10+ years. Seen many to specialists, but no one was able to help. After one foam rolling session, the pain was gone and never came back. That was 5 years ago. How does one explain that, if foam rolling is a a temporary solution? Not disputing what was said in the video, honestly looking for a answer.

  • @trevbarlow9719

    @trevbarlow9719

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. If rolling is just a placebo, why don't the various other things have the same placebo effect?

  • @lafreeway

    @lafreeway

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have similar knee problem. What kind of rolling technique did you use? Thanks.

  • @DJM3KS

    @DJM3KS

    5 жыл бұрын

    The tension in my feet was unbearablely high. I used a lacrosse ball to massage deeply on my soles and the release was unbelievable. It felt like years of tight, restricted movement left my feet after that session. It was NOT a placebo. Every morning id have to shuffle around until i was warmed up, now i feel free. Not placebo!

  • @Amber86queenbee

    @Amber86queenbee

    5 жыл бұрын

    Theo Albezsta that is really like saying that just cause a doctor can't diagnose it is must all be in your head, that they must be disparate for attention to think they are in pain and that is the worst thing you could say to someone who is unwell or in pain. My mother went 30 years before being diagnosed with her autoimmune condition and being told it was in her head - doctors aren't infallible and sometimes there may not 'appear' to be an underlying reason when there is. People shouldn't be narrowed minded and science and medicine is ever evolving. And muscle knots or other postural problems can cause significant pain in itself...unless you know the OP's medical history you can't comment on what has caused their pain or imply it was made up.

  • @gmotwmirl
    @gmotwmirl3 жыл бұрын

    A foam roller is great for thoracic extention and iso holds, but dosent suck enough for myofascial release imo

  • @ahmedalabdan8108
    @ahmedalabdan81087 жыл бұрын

    Very informative! Loved the video Let's say I wanna foam roll my glutes and piriformis muscles during squat warm up, would it matter if I'm using a soft foam roller or a cross ball?

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't really matter. Personal preference

  • @brian20439
    @brian204397 жыл бұрын

    Would you say then that whether you foam roll or not is not a good enough deciding factor on sport-related injuries? And if not, then what are the causes for sport-related injuries? Would be be more stability and biomechanics related? Do you have any videos on sport-related injuries?

  • @thetriptrap622
    @thetriptrap6227 жыл бұрын

    Do u have some tip for tight trapezius? For example using a foam roller to relax the area then do some exercise to make them less tight using stretching? sorry for my bad english and thanks for the attention!

  • @qhenochi

    @qhenochi

    7 жыл бұрын

    I think that sounds like a decent plan. I'd need an assessment to give specific recommendations.

  • @sumsar01
    @sumsar015 жыл бұрын

    I must be a physical therapist as well. Because I'm also judging everyone in the gym.

  • @trentedwards5005
    @trentedwards50057 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Quinn do you not think that long term, material mobility changes cannot be made with foam rollers, lacrosse balls, and the like? I am a big fan of banded mobility and loaded positioning to improve mobility but if I roll out my quads on a consistent basis(1-3 times per week) they not only feel better that day but also on the days that no rolling is mobility is done. This compared to the control of me not rolling my quads at all.

  • @drcwatson
    @drcwatson7 жыл бұрын

    Are you only talking about rolling up and down length of muscle? What about holding pressure on 'trigger points'/hypertonic muscles for an inhibitory response of relaxing the muscle?

  • @drcwatson

    @drcwatson

    7 жыл бұрын

    re-watched, answered my question as well as in another question in comments

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