MKLeo is BACK! Can the Character Meta be Saved?! | Lights Out Episode 48
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The whole squad is here to discuss the HUGE Tournament win MKLeo got last weekend in France, along with other topics like player improvement, character metas that are ruining the game and more(including surprise appearances from Void and Charles) LOL
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► Timestamps:
0:00 - Check out Low Tide City & use code LightsOut10 for a discount!
0:45 - Intro / Why is Light in a... CAR??? (Support the Patreon)!
2:55 - What is everyone's next Smash Tournament?
6:00 - EE's NEO Conspiracy Theory (LOL)
9:15 - MKLeo wins King Con: Explaining how he BEAT Sparg0 twice!
14:20 - WHERE WAS GLUTTONY AT???
15:50 - Marss didn't make Top 8 at King Con... WE DECLARE WAR ON FRANCE!
18:35 - Could MKLeo play multiple characters & still Win / Top 8 Majors?
20:30 - Is the 2024 Character Meta the BEST its ever been? Light & Cosmos debate!
28:45 - Light's ChunkyKong horror story (LOL)
29:40 - Raflow: Carrying the Palu Meta to the Top!
34:15 - Can MKLeo start and continue a streak of consistency in Tournaments???
38:35 - Cosmos doubts MKLeo... the GOAT???
40:45 - EE DEFENDS MKLEO, HIS GOAT! (PURE PASSION)
42:45 - Can Zomba become the next BEST player in the World???
49:25 - MKLeo or Zomba: Who's winning streak will last longer? (Feat VOID)!
51:05 - VOID Perfectly breaks down Joker! / Is ROB better?
54:40 - A WILD CHARLES APPEARS (LMAO)
55:30 - Outro
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Random Charles encounter was definitely the highlight of the episode 😂
@mek80010
4 ай бұрын
Charles was just so chill about it too... LMAO! 54:41
Light being in a different location every episode is actually becoming pretty funny and should be a thing every ep😂😂😂😂
@EliMfGen
4 ай бұрын
you realize it's bc he's basically homeless and looking for a place right? it'd suck if that was his norm lol
@Mr36Chamberz
4 ай бұрын
@@EliMfGenit shows the authentic struggle of a pro gamer.
@meorwss
3 ай бұрын
@@EliMfGenis he doing alright? hope he finds a good home
Bro if you don't help light get a place to live soon he's gonna start using the overnight venue as a hotel room
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
LOL
@user-el1nv9hd1l
4 ай бұрын
yo light wake up! Pool a42 has to play here right now!
I did not expect light to be in his car bruh😂
@tlk4554
4 ай бұрын
Quick, into the Lightmobile!
@sharsasuke01
4 ай бұрын
Bro, that shit took me out. LOL
@justice8718
4 ай бұрын
That’s his house.
I'm a firm Leo believer but imma wait for consistency before I say my goat is truly back
@gerardoortega323
4 ай бұрын
As soon as he wins an S tier after running into Tweek Gluto or Sonix I'll say he's truly back
@6PathsGohan
4 ай бұрын
@gerardoortega323 Agreed. I'm not trying to knock Leo at all but even when he was "struggling" him and Sparg0 would have very close sets
@Chelmicus
4 ай бұрын
A very reasonable way of looking at it, unusual for the smash community
@dopeflamingo8812
4 ай бұрын
Agree wit all y'all☝🏾
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
Oh yee of little faith, remember this comment!
Light got his seat belt on and hands on the wheel while parked. Cops got him traumatized out there 😂😂
Good to know that we still get random Charles appearances even without him living with you lol.
Also flow might have yawned because he dqed from winners as he missed his alarm
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
Shut up France apologist!
@jonny7444
4 ай бұрын
This is hilarious
@dennisd.4726
4 ай бұрын
If he missed his alarm he got extra sleep??
@Jpable111
4 ай бұрын
@@EEvisu Bro, he was literally having breakfast DURING the set. Watch the vod.
@lokks2130
4 ай бұрын
Obviously. Even if it was disrespect -- deserved! Marss already called him the Mcdonalds of Roy mains. But I don't think there's any greater disrespect than losing to a dude who was half asleep eating breakfast mid set.😂
I think Leo won Genesis last year with 4 characters. Rob for Justice, aegis for Sonix, tried Byleth against muteace, and Won with joker. Sniped some random fox under the stage.
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
The possibilities are endless for my goat
@hecty8667
4 ай бұрын
And then at double down Leo got 2nd with corrin rob byleth
@user-el1nv9hd1l
4 ай бұрын
Went aegis a couple games as well@@hecty8667
Light being in a beautiful setup one week and in his car the next is so funny 😂
Seeing Light homeless broke my Fox main heart, instantly subbed to Patreon lmao
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
We appreciate you lol
I love the scuffed quality of this show. Charles joining out of nowhere was the highlight
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
It’s funny cause I’m trying SO hard to be professional 🤣
Rooting for a Light major
@owenloveridge279
4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@pbz7572
4 ай бұрын
A Light Super Major (S+)
Light might be able to stand up to Zomba, he has a car and a license.
@sentoworf
4 ай бұрын
Now he just needs a roof over his head 😭
Light is out there proving he has a license after Zomba's statement about smash players not having a license.
I would subscribe to the patreon, but the top ranked smash player in America being homeless is just too funny
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
💀💀💀
@BlackBeartic229
4 ай бұрын
Bro NAH 💀💀💀
@thelordoftheweebs9501
4 ай бұрын
I have to agree lol still love light tho
Spargo definitely panics in clutch situations vs Leo. But remember Leo beat him at Crown. Spargo then took advice from a random off twitter and then bodied Leo at the next major they played at. So i expect Spargo to adapt hard for next time.
@char1194
4 ай бұрын
He just needs another twitter random to coach him again
@teddybui1319
4 ай бұрын
Lmao wait what is the Tweet still around for this?
@three2won_
4 ай бұрын
worked for Light too, twitter advice kinda OD
Light with the BBB stream setup!
@sinfinite7516
4 ай бұрын
At least he aint driving 😂
@pbz7572
4 ай бұрын
I’m afraid to ask what BBB means
@TheVirginMeri
4 ай бұрын
@@pbz7572The King of Pop!
@sinfinite7516
4 ай бұрын
@@pbz7572 bobby big ballz
The wild Charles appeanace at the end was so funny and Light being a freaking car is something I didn't expect to see in Lights Out 😂
So happy I got back into watching smash. Love this community and loved watching during 2019. Just started watching again. You guys are awesome man. Also Light taking care of his own standing up for Marss whether he has the context or not that’s what we like to see✊🏻✊🏻
10:29 Light is so correct, and their set at Crown the 3rd 8 months ago is a testament to that. Leo was hitting some of his lowest lows, with Spargo hitting his highest highs. Leo hasn't gone Joker in MONTHS and has all but given up on the character. He's down 0-2 against Spargo with Byleth. Spargo has beaten Leo 4 of their previous 5 encounters, with the one time he lost having him double eliminate Leo in Grands from LOSERS. He swaps to Joker, and INSTANTLY the entire crowd pops off. On the second stock, Leo completely destroys Spargo and outreads him the entire stock, and you can see Spargo REELING in the playercam. At the end of Game 3, despite still being up 2-1, it clearly looks like Spargo is playing not to lose as opposed to playing to win. Game 5, Spargo swaps off of Cloud to Aegis but it does nothing to stop the reverse 3-0. I feel like MKLeo is the player that Spargo will always respect the most, even if Spargo becomes #1 and Leo never breaks into the top 10 again. Because even during Spargo's comeup, MKLeo did say that Spargo would become the best player soon during his dominant reign of Ultimate, and lo and behold, Spargo is now the #2 player.
Bro that type of laugh that happens in situations like when Charles popped in is therapeutic lmao
just saw the charles twitter clip and this just got uploaded, bless
17:46 Im crying at ees smile bro 😭 he knows damn well he’s instigating
To solidify the tinfoil hat theory: during the prelocal Raflow beat Neo in winners with palu THEN played Samus to lose against him in losers top 8, then during Kingcon his teammate Neeroz who also has a pocket palu upset Neo (he played Pikachu tho)
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
INTERESTING…. 👁️
Neo is a real G for ACTUALLY going to King Con. I still can't believe all the top players that turned it down. Zomba took an L for sure by not backing up his "#1 in the world" shit. He would've lost to the true GOAT. MKLeo W forever. Nobody will have the level of success and talent he's had in this game PERIOD
@TheVirginMeri
4 ай бұрын
It was right after Genesis not everyone wants to be traveling that much
@TheVirginMeri
4 ай бұрын
@@YuhDug cuz they dont need one LOL they just decided not to go
@Perciprius_91
4 ай бұрын
@@YuhDugThere are valid excuses. Rest is very important and burnout is a real thing.
@SN-gv9zw
4 ай бұрын
@@YuhDugnot to mention zomba's in college lol. as a full time college student myself, I have no idea how he won genesis, college is stressful asf
Maaaan episode went by so fast ! Goats doing goat things ! 🔥
26:43 I love the fact that while listening, literally right before this moment I was questioning "Wait... has EE not called anyone a 'Jim' yet? We can't have a podcast without the traditional EE Jim-calling." Thank you for delivering EE. Lmao.
26:45 that might be the longest it has taken for Cosmos to get roasted
@moementumfilms
4 ай бұрын
Nah I think 4:30 😂
Charles cameo was OD! Bro came in with the long filter 🤣
The chuck nasty cameo was god like
Chuck hopping on at the end had me in tears 😂 great episode!
Super fun episode. Chuck’s cameo was the best part
The people do love it!! I'm with you EE, let's go Leo!!
Light living in his car now. The pro Smash scene has really gone downhill 😢
I’ve been waiting on this episode since Saturday man😂
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
You already know!
I think it's fine if he's never fully "back." He doesn't have to be #1, or even make top 8 every time. I'm just happy that he's still around, still competing, still the GOAT
12th in France is like 800th in the world LOL
please never stop this podcast
no shot this podcast has been going on for more than 48 weeks
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
it has, we even have missed a few weeks lmao
Light being a homeless is kinda fitting tbh. Is close to Mango in the homeless rizz
That Charles cameo is god-tier. Whadduuup
My boy acola having his Yagami arc in japan rn studying for uni exams and writing down people's names in the steve book. Once he starts competing again everyone will remember why he's the best.
Good ep ❤
The Chuck cameo was absolute GOLD! 😂
nah its cause marss called flow the mcdonalds of roys 😭
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
Pure comedy cause Flow is a great Roy lmao
@PlagueDrHK
4 ай бұрын
Where I need to see this 😂
@user-el1nv9hd1l
4 ай бұрын
He actually said that??
@lokks2130
4 ай бұрын
when did he say this LOL gosh it serves him so right that he lost if this is true
@legrandliseurtri7495
4 ай бұрын
Please give us the link to the video where he said that!!!
You're never catching me signing the Leo apology form because I've NEVER doubted my goat. NOT. EVEN. ONCE!!!🗣🗣🗣
Charles cameo was insane 😂
The Charles show up was amazing. LMBO Defintely unexpected. (glad he got to hang out for a bit with it being smash stuff and all...but get your butt back to Tweek Talks!)
BRO WHY IS LIGHT FAKING DRIVING
@roberthamelin5637
4 ай бұрын
He is feeling pressure from zombas "I drive" genesis comments
best sunday of my life no cap
Charles cameo was hilarious 😅🔥
35:13 That analogy was insane
WOW i never thought of that joker being wolf with arsene is so accurate
Flow was also eating breakfast durring their set so yeah he was just tired. In addition he slept through winners and therefore got dqed
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
Quiet!
Marss did call Flow a "McDonalds Roy" on stream.
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
McDonald’s is delicious (sometimes)
@Senaru
4 ай бұрын
McGriddles go hard.
Ayo I was worried when my boy Light got that car to roll up on him glad he was good lol
The people do love the EE monologue
Light coming to bat for the homie Marss is smth I didn’t know I needed.
I thought Wolf had a lot of ways to kill, up and down smash, b-air, up tilt, f tilt, dash attack, and a kill throw. Aren’t up air and fair good at high percents too? I guess it’s still a struggle at top levels,
4:41 so proud of Cosmos for this
I think Leo will be just fine, I've felt that way since the end of genesis and I'm happy to be proven right, immediately after. He'll have ups and downs but I think for the rest of the year it'll be very stable.
Great episode! I think zomba can do it. But he needs that consistency. The mindset needs to be sustained and the playing needs to be sustained. He can do it tho!
Dude I can't with Charles XD
I just love seeing Leo winning over and over again doesn’t matter who he plays
Hot take: people have waaaaay too much faith in Leo. Everyone talking bout “the king has returned”, “Leo’s back”, yata yata. Ppl rly do be blinded by recency bias bc literally LAST WEEK MR. GENESIS didn’t even get top 8 at genesis. Leo’s has had good results as of late, but he’s also had plenty of lack luster ones (genesis, watch the throne, port priority). So I’ll say he’s back when he’s actually back.
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
This is how it starts, just you wait!
@Lerkero
4 ай бұрын
I actually like the idea of mkleo being the underdog now. Top players have caught up to him and its great for the competitive smash scene
can you guys please use a de-esser on your audio? Just throw one on and it’ll help the audio quality drastically. The s sounds really hurt and are very loud.
sparg0 in general hates being in the corner, that boy will bounce expeditiously from ledge (i get why it’s cloud lol). makes sense that Leo rly got the edge on him in those corner/ledge situations, the ledge trumps were godlike too
lights homeless chapter
Light in the car is crazy
Leo used Byleth for pools and Top 64....
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
I mention this later, mainly focused on his Top 16 / Top 8 run, which is traditionally when a single character focus matters more for him.
Got y'all with the like and comment 👍
I don‘t know if Flow was actually being intentionally disrespectful there cause he did oversleep his winners round against bloom, so when he played against Marss he was probably genuinly tired cause he just fell out of bed 😂
need some fanart where cosmos/ light are cosmos/wanda and ee is timmy turner lmao
Nairo steam with cosmos and light let's goooooo
0:48 probably the hottest light moment of the year so far imo🌞
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
He’s WHIPPIN’
EE at 41:46 is the God Tier. Bro I’m weak
Yeah, from now on as long as Leo isn't in the tourney I'm rooting for Light. Bro needs the encouragement
Brawler isn’t a random pick for Bloom, it’s one of his best chars, like yink or Lucina for zomba. I think he beat aba once, and he was only playing neutral and didn’t even go for any confirms
Man I do wanna see them at low tide city
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
use code lightsout10 for your registration and meet us there!
Light making sure that zomba cant trash talk him about lisense and driving when he wins the next major. 😂
Tell me why my first time on ees stream bro was wearing a ski mask 😂 keep grinding
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
All day
Mcchicken with cheese only is crazzzzyyyyyy
ROB is the SF6 Luke of Ultimate
Haven’t had the chance to watch this yet but I hope someone tells this man during the podcast he should stick to two characters at most.😭
Oh Zomba is very likely to make top 5 imo. Sure he won Crown 3 and didn’t make top 10 last year, but his win list at Genesis was even better than in that tournament. He literally took out four top 10 players (in a row) to win Genesis (and he beat Sonix twice, even after getting reset).
The Charles jumpscare lol Charles had been missing the podcast life so he came through, on that note where's the next Tweek Talks?? EDIT: NVM saw they just dropped an episode lol
Flow literally woke up late for the tournament. He was actually tired vs Marss. That’s why he yawned you jims.
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
Maybe, but that’s not a fun story
Zackray at BH9 used 8 different characters the whole weekend for doubles and singles and won.
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
My Japan GOAT
CHARLES CAME OUTTA NOWHERE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Yalls debates are funny. Everyone’s like “Until this player shows XYZ, I’m not gonna say he’s XYZ”
Ain’t no way cosmos complaining about boring characters when he plays aegis
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
Aegis is hype
@elitecombine5373
4 ай бұрын
@@EEvisuHype is used to describe something that is cool
Hour of listening to these dudes calling it King Kong
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
King cuck*
Lights out (of a home)
Flow missed his winners and just woke up in time to fight marss in losers
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
oh we know! haha
EE has always been Smash's black preacher
COME ON DOWN TO THE BUTTER BARN
@EEvisu
4 ай бұрын
Huh?
If Cosmos changed his mentality about matchups just a little bit he’s a top ten player!
Light on his homeless arc
I somewhat agree with Light about the higher level of the players being interesting in itself. Sonics have learned the combo routes and that means they're relying on Spindash less which improves the entertainment value. However, I don't think seeing the skill expressed by/against charas like GW, Minmin, or Aegis makes for more entertaining matches because their gameplan is pretty linear and doesn't change that much. Kazuya's combo game was solved the week he came out, and as a result he only gets worse as time goes on (still strong though).