Mistakes Were Made! | Real Talk w/ The Professor | The Command Zone | MTG Commander EDH Magic
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Show Notes:
With almost 20 combined years of KZread under their belts, The Professor and JLK are some of the most experienced veterans in the MTG content space. Both channels have grown enormously since they began, but it hasn’t always been a simple or easy journey. Today, the two friends sit down to give you a look behind the curtain, discussing the realities of content creation and the struggles that they’ve encountered along the path of building and running a business. You can’t get this perspective anywhere else, so come and watch with us!
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Timestamps:
00:00:40 - Intro
00:05:33 - The Realities Of Being A Content Creator
00:05:50 - A New Era Of The Command Zone
00:06:36 - Moving Offices
00:13:08 - Being A Business Owner
00:20:25 - Growing The Business
00:37:10 - Where Does The Money Go?
00:43:09 - Advertising
00:51:08 - Beating Your High Score
00:53:14 - Financing Small Content Creation
01:02:05 - Patreon
01:05:23 - Fueling The Machine
01:06:59 - What's Next For The Command Zone
01:13:18 - Dune: Part 2
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What new innovative endeavor should the Command Zone take on next? What about Tolarian Community College?
@lancekosisky9946
2 ай бұрын
Josh is an honorable and transparent boss! Good hopes for every adventure! And Prof is a good friend that speaks his mind, good that you can take his views in the best of light! Looking at two of the best in the biz!
@megacardboard2855
2 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed opening the loot boxes, and building TCCs inspired precons. Would be cool if I could buy precons or game kits inspired by you guys directly.
@mesa176750
2 ай бұрын
You should host some commander draft competitions!
@Logan_MZR
2 ай бұрын
I’d love to see some deck builds targeted at certain prices, like $100 versions of your guys favorite commanders.
@TerryTags
2 ай бұрын
I would love to see content with in-depth commentary on the LORE of the MTG storylines (and as of the release of this video, how BAD the lore currently is). Without the critical pressure from your massive community, WOTC will still think it's okay to put out the awful stuff they currently are. It's so bad, the channel "Fantasy Geographic" (with the Magic Historian) just quit putting out content in the middle of the Thunderbox Junction story. And you can see the despair behind the eyes of Ryan at Magic Arcanum. Etc.
I love Prof and JLK together, they really take their time to talk like friends that happen to be colleagues
@JaySay
2 ай бұрын
It's always great to see how the two of them are so close, that not only do you see them praising each other and talking each other up so much, but when they sit down for a game, the two of them love to poke fun at each other and occasionally shit talk. They both have so much respect for each other; they're truly inspiring people in the mtg community.
@vipergtsrgt1
2 ай бұрын
These kinds of open, free-flowing conversations tend to end up being my favorite videos and podcasts. They're so natural, honest, and fascinating. I feel relaxed yet informed.
@ToUnderstandAFool
2 ай бұрын
you only say that because you don't know that Prof defended peds in the community and sold out the people who were exposing them and directly aided in the acceleration of gamergate1.0 making people hate each other for no reason
@EdwinRosario432
2 ай бұрын
@@vipergtsrgt1 Same. I enjoy people being brutally authentic vs currated. There's nothing wrong with things being scripted, but I MUCH prefer to feel like I'm engaging in a conversation amongst friends than solely consuming curated content.
Ok, loving that a good portion of this is talking about paying people fairly. This is just great.
@anstapa6118
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely! We need more of this in content spaces.
@keegs5632
2 күн бұрын
This didn't age well.
@balangaz
2 күн бұрын
came here for this
@nanoglitch6693
2 күн бұрын
Sadly it was obviously just that. Talk.
People like Josh and Prof are great ambassadors for the game and the community at large. Thanks for sharing these behind the scenes stories! Growing a business sounds daunting.
@raulferrer-conill9281
2 ай бұрын
Awesome to see you post here, too :)
This is excellent, thank you so much for your transparency on these subjects.
@TheRahnenfuehrer
2 ай бұрын
Love you!
@Billy_Toler
2 ай бұрын
Jakey joe are you commenting on a command zone video again?
@EastToWestTCG
2 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, you're here to see if breaking a lease is Crime or No Crime
The part that stuck out to me is how happy JLK was to hear Prof was happy too. Two of the most wholesome personalities in the game hyping each other up
I'm surprised Josh didn't start tearing up after Prof made the statement starting 16:27, that was an incredible profession of appreciation by Prof. He saw right into the heart of the work Josh is doing and it's rare to have friends who see into your effort so well.
@TerryTags
2 ай бұрын
Came here to say this, too. WOW! That was so freaking wholesome and genuine. Love it.
38:52 never laughed harder at an ad break
"Probably" and then an ad immediatley plays, that got me lol
JLK, I just want you to know this video has made me feel a lot better about the mistakes I made opening my first business. Thank you so much for sharing.
I'm just glad you guys didnt quit and give up MTG content like some other youtubers
@Loki-
2 ай бұрын
It's good you left their name out of respect. You sure are an upstanding game show host!
@thedicehavespoken6234
2 ай бұрын
Yeah who would do that
@vectorstrike
2 ай бұрын
Noah, we need more MtG videos from you!
@garrett1433
2 ай бұрын
Now I'm curious who left 😮
@DynamicSheep
Ай бұрын
I do miss your deck techs @MagicTheNoah, but I looked at the views on your game shows and went '😮 that makes sense! Good for him. Unsubscribed'
It's so cool that Post Malone basically told y'all "You don't need to pay me, I just want to play with you."
@Dragon_Fyre
2 ай бұрын
His Net Worth is like $50 million. 😅
@FSUMercerian
2 ай бұрын
He obviously doesn’t need the money but it also feels like even if he wasn’t as big, he’d still do that. He’s an actual player and he wants to play, paid or not.
@BlazinTre
2 ай бұрын
@@FSUMercerian that's what I'm saying!
@TimmyTurner421
2 ай бұрын
Yeah he's one of us. Just a dude who likes to play MTG
@Shark-Fist
2 ай бұрын
@@Dragon_FyreYeah, but a lot of rich people seem to only care about making more money. Hearing something like this is refreshing
As a creator, I loved this conversation. It's always a pleasure to hang out with the Prof and hearing what he has learned from JLK is heart warming.
The fact that Josh, of all people, was about to genuinely say, "Dude! And that's the best fucking thing!" Like a teenager shows just how real this friendship is. Hard to say it's not inspiring to listen to!
Prof & JLk probably my favourite combo in magic NGL. Even more than green & black.
@lordsauron8546
2 ай бұрын
Golgari fans unite!
@etherealbonds
2 ай бұрын
Posty + Prof is a killer duo as well though
It's funny that Prof mentioned Jimmy. When I first discovered The Command Zone I remember thinking "Oh, they hired that guy from Video Game High to co-host the show, they must be doing well."
@ThjyuGaming
2 ай бұрын
I knew Jimmy from old FreddieW and Corridor stuff and VGHS was such a pivotal moment for what I realized the internet could be. I love that project so much and when I started getting into Magic a few years ago and saw that Jimmy was co-host for the podcast and the gameplay I fell in love with Command Zone.
@gallowayrobert3
2 ай бұрын
I think I only found this channel because I watch VGHS, but since I've found it, I've loved every second of it.
@thechikage1091
2 ай бұрын
I didn't realize for the longest time that I knew about Jimmy from VGHS. It had been so long that I just didn't remember.
“Love” isn’t enough to describe the feeling I get when I see the dynamic between these two on the camera. It’s a talk between friends trying to get along this world together and it’s great and genuine. Great episode 🥲
Great, candid conversation. Thanks for your openness and vulnerability, Josh. And congrats to the entire team on all their success.
The fact that Wizards doesn't send review product to The Prof is some corporate level bullshit.
We definitely need more companies that are built from the ground up and actually care about their employees.
As someone with a very small channel dedicated to Magic, this is a very interesting video. My channel is currently just about explaining Magic rules, so I don't expect it to grow very much covering that, but over time I do hope to grow it and do a lot more content like gameplay videos and deck building strategies from a bit of a different perspective. So thank you for this video and I hope I don't have many massive setbacks over the years.
@Mcrypt117
2 ай бұрын
Hey saw your comment and was interested so I checked your channel and you’re well on your way my friend!! Only saw your latest video but I’m sure the rest are a house as well! I’m sure wherever you choose to go you’ll be fine! I love magic content so as an individual I want to say your effort is appreciated and honestly anticipated!! Good luck and I wish the best for you!! Btw yes you just got a new sub👍🏽
@ThisIsACommanderChannel
2 ай бұрын
@@Mcrypt117 Dang man, thanks for the nice comment. That means a lot, and I'm just glad you liked that video enough to subscribe. I hope you enjoy the others as well as the stuff in the future.
@kyleedmunds5329
2 ай бұрын
I've been subscribed to you for a while, not as long as Command Zone, but I think around a year and a half or so, and I have learned so much while watching your videos. I learned about them from someone at work, a lot of us play Magic during work when we get a chance and some of us meet up at an LGS to play and we always look forward to guessing wrong on your bonus questions and such. Thanks for the content and it's cool you're getting to see this video from Command Zone and let it help you out with your channel.
@ThisIsACommanderChannel
2 ай бұрын
@@kyleedmunds5329Thanks, wow, I didn't expect to get such nice things here. Usually people just get mad at me for posting on other channels' videos. I'm so happy that my little videos are helping out other pods so much.
@Xynic.7391
7 күн бұрын
@@ThisIsACommanderChanneljust subscribed myself to check out later. I'm the guy that explains rules to my friends so maybe I can just send them to you instead 😂
This kind of transparency and vulnerability from both of you was great to hear as an audience member. Thank you both for this, and thanks to the whole team.
The transparency and candid conversation about their business practices makes this one of my favorite command zone videos ever.
If you need a Janitor to keep the new place clean, you can hire me.
I loved this episode. Its inspiring for a small channel like us. Right now we film in my living room. We use old (but not ancient) cell phones as our cameras now, after experimenting with cheap amazon “4k” cameras. I edit every episode on my own PC which is barely capable. I taught myself how to edit, and do everything else myself too. I hope someday i am able to employ my friends and others and give them a great workplace like you have built.
@qjl889
2 ай бұрын
Best of luck to you. Subscribed for what that's worth
It is always great to see behind the scenes in what it takes to make and manage content, especially at the level that The Command Zone and Tolarian Community College create! Thank you for sharing this. I hope that I'm able to take this advice and knowledge and apply it when I eventually get to making my own content!
I always loved when Josh and Prof did their show together. It's how I learned about the command zone in the first place. I would love to see that come back in some form, or that round table show CZ did a while back. That being said I would love a comedy series.
I remember those old episodes when The Command Zone was audio only fondly. I wasn’t in a great place in regards to how my life was going, practically living out of my car due to all of the commuting the soul destroying job I was at required. But one thing that made the driving a lot more bearable wa this EDH podcast I found on whatever app I was using at the time. Where the two hosts had a good rapport, fun energy, and legitimately good advice. Thank you guys, the last decade of episodes has been a blast and I can’t wait to listen to (and watch) the next ten years
There is alot to learn here for ppl, perhaps us men in particular. The way Josh owns up and doesn't distribute resposibility for messing up is an example to follow for many. Also the way they talk about rheir problems and showing underlaying emotions and support is showing ppl how to handle difficult situations and times in their life that needs to be adressed for being healthy. I have so much respect for the way these ppl talk to eachother and help each other. I wish i had a friend like that..
Thanks for turning the cameras on for this. As a full time, mid-level, one-person-show MTG KZread creator these high level talks from the top of the business are priceless. 🙏🏻
@treycuret
Ай бұрын
fresh bosh pack smoke em if you got em
I love that JLK and Prof appear to be legitimately good friends and care about one another's successes and failures. Such good people involved here!
As someone starting a videogame company amidst the toughest time of my life this has been very motivating. Genuinely, thanks for this cool under-the-hood chat.
Love this video. It’s so brave of you two to speak on stuff like this and it makes everyone involved in both your teams look better because of it.
I thoroughly enjoyed this no script conversation podcast. Maybe not for every episode but I, for one, very much enjoyed this. Also, getting a peek behind the curtain was so cool. As much as we all like CZ already, this really humanized you which is just cool. A+
This is one of my all-time favorite episodes you guys have done! I love that you took a stab at it and weren't sure if it would work, but I can assure you -- it absolutely did!
I kinda love that the community grew out of people like The Prof and Josh and so on, these really good and kind people. Focusing on paying people for their work is so important... I don't make money but I'm constantly trying to find ways to add value to stuff the people I get involved with are doing.
Favorite episode in ages. Love the back and forth and the perspectives Prof brings.
I LOVED profs ads where he is kinda all ... whatever about his product. It makes me way more interested than when something is fiercely marketed towards me.
This is awesome, it's clear how much respect and absolute joy these guys have for each other, and the fact that they don't view each other's channels as competition but rather as psuedo-colleagues and friends is absolutely amazing. Love you guys, hope you grow even more in this new space!
Happy for you guys, I respect a lot the transparency you have with your audience :)
Seeing real life content about progress, goals, mistakes ,etc is really awesome to hear
Its nice to see two of the stalwarts of the MTG content creation field talking about how important it is to share your profits fairly with the people who do labor for you, even if the labor is just being a guest on a podcast.
Even the first minute opening was worth the thumbs up. 😂👍
prof and JLK have so much great chemistry, it seems like they do this every week
The comradery and the brotherhood you two share makes my eyes water its beautiful to see.
It's so wonderful to hear the two of you talk genuinely and off-script about your experiences and struggles. I feel like it's way too common for content creators to put up fronts, being great on-camera but doing questionable things behind the scenes; this conversation was such a breath of fresh air. Thank you Command Zone and TCC and I can't wait to enjoy more of your content!
I have enjoyed The Command Zone and all your content for a few years, but after this episode, I am so excited to be a fan. You exemplify the best qualities a company can exhibit. Thank you for all you do. I will use my new signed, Go To Combat play-mat with pride.
By far my favorite episode of the command zone .. I love the behind the scenes and real talk. 10/10 episode!
I think this is my favorite episode of the podcast you've done. Felt really genuine and real and it's cool to hear the insights into all the work both channels put into making such cool shows for us to watch. I look forward to the next time you get to do this in a year or so
This was a great listen! I love the down to earth real talk conversations and it was great to see you guys take some time to reflect on the past and your guys growth.
Only 1:01 in and I can't resist leaving a comment. I can't state how much I miss Jimmy and Josh's song openings enough. Not that I'm complaining, but it's been quite a while since their being the only hosts after Rachel's joining. I'm feeling nostalgic.
@DangoHsu
2 ай бұрын
And then they say they're not co-hosting this episode 😢 Again, not complaining. I love all of 'em.
One of the best videos I have seen on either The Command Zone or Tolarian Community College. So insightful and also just fun to watch my two favorite creators give us a peak behind the curtain.
Unironically my favorite command zone episode
Please do more! Discussions like these are simply great to hear/watch
I really appreciate this. It’s easy to get entrepreneurs to talk about their successes and brilliant decisions; people are naturally much less eager to exhume their failures, but that’s also incredibly useful and informative to hear about. Fascinating peek behind the curtain.
This is the first video of Command Zone I've ever seen from beginning to end without skipping. Didn't know you guys do that with your ads!! Will be watching entire videos from now on! Keep up the great work! This was an entertaining conversation.
Honestly, I'm so appreciative that you pay people for the games they play. I honestly didn't think it was something that was done but knowing that you do is one of the coolest things I've heard today, yesterday, or the day before. Thank you for having such good hearts.
This video has reinforced for me that these guys are so genuine, and are such a positive force in our community. Thank you for showing us behind the curtain, we all benefit from your hard work and perseverance.
Great episode. I own a business and it can be overwhelming at times. Your channel is awesome and I have been watching for years. The last game knights intro for Karlov Manor was amazing.
This is such a great side to see from both JLK and Prof. ❤❤❤❤
Really happy and proud of you Josh, Jimmy, and the command zone team. You guys deserve this!!!!
love prof, when he gets talking about stuff he likes he gets so excited and it really shows
As a small mtg KZreadr who’s been making content for almost 5 years, it’s super interesting to listen to you and impressive to see what you have created.
Some of us knew it was a house from Graham's vlogs
Love the transparency! Speaks to the solidarity of y’all’s operations and philosophies.
Thank you for the transparency and behind the scenes!
This was an amazing episode. Sharing your experience, successes and failures, says it all about you. I learnt so much. Love your work Prof and JLK. Keep it up! Keep trying new stuff, keep listening to feedback and keep getting happier!! 👏👏👏
Thank you for your honesty, and vulnerability. Its easy to talk about the things that go well in your life, but to share how things didn't go well, and the mistakes you made, however painful, shows a lot about your character. Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely fascinating conversation. Great chat gentlemen!
This is heartwarming and enlightening for me in my life. Amazing podcast and amazing work both of you! I always watch Game Knights because the quality is unbeatable.
I have been watching both the Command Zone and TCC for several years now and so cool to see how both channels have grown. Will continue to watch and support both of you! Appreciate the content guys
This sort of thing is why I love these channels, Thanks Prof and JLK! and everyone else who puts all of this out!
Prof and josh should do this more often, like once a year talking about their channels and how it is going
I rarely comment but here I am letting you know that deep dive conversation is what made Podcast a thing to begin with and transparency is much appreciated content for most of us. It humanizes the people we listen to every week. It makes you relatable too to some extent. Great episode! Long live TCZ!
LOVED this episode! Big fan of these candid and behind the scene conversations. Thanks for sharing your journey!
This was a gift of an episode! Thanks for putting this out
Really honest and humble show. Keep it coming, guys and gals!
Absolutely incredible conversation. Thank you so much for this! Huge fan of you both. Excited to see both channels prosper ❤
I love magic and I got into it maybe 3-4 years ago. I have to say both TCC and The command zone are my absolute favorite channels. I watch your videos to learn to play better, to pass time, and even to fall asleep (the jokes and laughter are enjoyable). Both channels are great and watching this video has made my day.
Thank you guys for the content you produce. I’m brand new to MTG only a few weeks deep and the catalogue of content portfolios produced by both channels has been extremely beneficial to my enjoyment and education about the game. I can only imagine how many would have stories like mine over the years. Thanks for all you do. Hope for many years of success to come for everyone!
@magnusprime962
2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the game! Hope you have a good time!
This was fascinating to see. Really interesting to see behind the curtain. Glad it's all working out now. Love the show and it's amazing how big it is now.
What a great conversation, thanks for the transparency!!!
Man that was a heart to heart episode, its always nice to watch these sit down episodes. I enjoy them greatly
I love the behind the scenes stuff. I will never be a creator or own a business but I find it very fascinating. Thank you for the awesome content!
Massive respect for the transparency and humility of this video!
Absolutely love everything about this episode! Such a breath of fresh air to hear two great personalities have a heart felt conversation
You two are just such genuine people. This stuff is part of the reason I still watch you guys.
Guys as as small business owner of 20 years this brought tears to my eyes. I too am not a business major and am fumbling my way forward, and it was really heart warning to hear your journey! Very inspirational. Keep on slaying it!
Thank you for running the cameras on this. This is amazing and contributed so much to the community.
More of this would be amazing! I love the biz talk. It's really great information.
Congrats to JLK and The Command Zone 🎉❤ You all are awesome!
Any time you 2 talk you should record it. This is hands down my favorite episode to date
Appreciate the candid nature of this discussion. I will say though that I believe a creative company's success should not be measured solely by growth. The video game industry is currently seeing the consequences of focusing on growth as a metric. There is nothing wrong with putting out the same premium quality content that we've all grown to love.
Thanks for publishing something like this, I don't work in this type of space (media) at all, but for anyone who is this is an amazing resource. Not many people are this candid about their failures or successes. The appreciation you two have for one another has never been more evident, kudos to a great working relationship, but more importantly a great friendship.
This is one of the most genuine and enjoyable conversations. Bravo.
Plis do more of this kind of stuff, this sober sit downs where you just talk are incredible loved the video
Gentlemen, this was a refreshing piece of content to watch. I feel like it makes all of your fans, myself included, appreciate the final product both channels produce even more now. Getting a glimpse behind the process and highlighting the pitfalls associated with your growth really resonates with me because so many people only talk about the good stuff and you miss seeing how successful people truly become successful: by failing FORWARD and learning from their mistakes. Then to top it all off, they share that wisdom with other people so the community can grow as a whole. Thank you for sharing those lessons today!
This kind of content is something I weirdly enjoy. Just content creators talking honestly about steps and philosophies they follow to keep there channels alive while taking care of their friends.
Being honest about your mistakes is a great thing for your viewers! Always creates an honest relationship with the people who are hear to support you and helps some learn from you so they don’t have to make those mistakes that could end their dreams.
Great video! I love getting peek in on the wizard of Oz. It helps small operations like mine a ton.