Thank you for covering this case. I am Spanish and the area where he got lost is very tricky. People with years of experience who camp or go for long hikes has been lost but normally appear within 24 hours. This is very weird. Spanish Government covers all the expenses of this search. No need for a Gofundme. Spain is Europe. With more resources than other countries in Europe. This sound very weird. Experts in the area, drones, dogs, police, Guardia Civil. Everybody is doing their best. They are keeping very silent which may indicate that they are after something. I hope they find him safe but it doesn't look good or logic, the version of events that the family and friends are communicating. You are an amazing professional Sir. Thank you.

@nicolasimpkins3640

5 күн бұрын

Bella black you don't know that about the Spanish government and the money is for volunteers too they need equipment food etc

@Bellablack205

4 күн бұрын

@@nicolasimpkins3640 hi Nicola! It could be, but based on previous searches volunteers do not help in this type of landscape, unless the search has been finished. Only then the private searchers can do something and yes, they are paid. Asking for that amount when you don't know if he is going to appear in some days is beyond weird. Thank you for your comment.

I always find it strange when someone sets a go fund me straight away before they have even had a chance to realise he was actually missing and its a serious situation!!

@lyndkent-cl2oe

12 күн бұрын

Man, You want to think the best?...what is the truth?...is this a "fake reality?"....the rescue, all hours...search party's ?....The hidious background of personality?....

@olivergratrix-bq8iy

12 күн бұрын

It wasn't set up straight away, it was 4/5 days after he'd been missing. There was a fake one straight away not set up by the family

@JeffsWig

11 күн бұрын

Like in the Nicola bulley case although that one was closed due to the backlash from the public

@mirjamweibel9678

11 күн бұрын

I didn’t even set up one after a terrible thing happened to me and I could not work more for months. And I am alone. No financial support of a husband or so. I read he lost drug money and used too much drugs. And now he owes them 20k and that they all know where he is

@sheilacarter7875

11 күн бұрын

Same thing happened with Nikki Bulley ,Emma Whjte started a go fund me for 100k on Feb3rd Nikki was just missing then and wasn't found until. two weeks..week deceased.People were so angry she was made to take it down.Why would anyone set up a go fund me when they don't know where the person is.

The guy is no angel. He has form. Don't be fooled and don't part with your money. The whole thing is suspect.

@jessicatomlin5829

10 күн бұрын

I’m sure you’re not an angel either Ken. Regardless of what he has or hasn’t done, he is someone’s son and brother.

@leeshepherd4775

10 күн бұрын

@@jessicatomlin5829 HES A WRONG UN

@Bushwacker-mb6hw

10 күн бұрын

I’m an Angel

@karenrogers9034

9 күн бұрын

@@Bushwacker-mb6hw Me Too x

@godwinmpazi1062

9 күн бұрын

A criminal that mocks working people​@@jessicatomlin5829

The fact that she feels the need to tell us that she visited a holiday location for a Holiday started my spidy senses tingling .. As she is trying to tell us that she was not on the island for other reasons. i.e the real reason . The rest is rather bi-polar , swinging between including herself and distancing herself. Police should grab her, seize her phone and passport and find out what she is hiding .

@sarahForensicCriminologistBSc

3 күн бұрын

I agree

The gofundme now says it’s for Debbie his mum, but initially when it was set up it wasn’t. If you look at Lucy’s first interview she does a Freudian slip and says “we” then quickly changes it to “I” so who’s the we? She definitely knows more than she’s saying.

@tricia4900

10 күн бұрын

What do they need money for...

@caroleforshaw6287

7 күн бұрын

​@@tricia4900precisely

I find it very strange that the go fund me page was set up soooooooo quickly

How would Lucy know that Jay had left with his two friends after stating that she had left the club early?

How does she know jay left with anyone if she went earlier 🤷🏽‍♀️

@tracyjacob7091

12 күн бұрын

Totally agree

@lyndkent-cl2oe

12 күн бұрын

😫🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

@rosita3528

12 күн бұрын

She asked Jay to leave with her butbhe said he was going with the other guys. It's in a few of the articles

@Dafferz007

12 күн бұрын

​@rosita3528 So WHERE did the 3rd friend go ?... Mmmmm.... little said about him eh ?

@tracyjacob7091

12 күн бұрын

@@Dafferz007 maybe he doesn't exist

There's a quote from Lucy in the daily mail criticizing the police for not speaking english. As long as they are searching to the best of their ability, it doesnt matter if they don't speak english, they are not english. They can't help not speaking English, they are Spanish! She said, " They don't even speak english"

@atlanticblue2665

12 күн бұрын

That !ucy May is an idiot and suspicious

@acreativiter

12 күн бұрын

She is a teenager too and emotionally affected by what's’ happening I don’t expect her or any relative to make rational comments

@lyndkent-cl2oe

12 күн бұрын

@@acreativiter ?

@ohno521

12 күн бұрын

If your going on holiday to a foreign country , you usually learn the language

@d.b.cooper1

12 күн бұрын

i mean of course it matters...how else do you think they're gonna get info from all the people (mostly english) who knew him & saw him last? you need a good grasp of not just the language but how it ties into behaviours, hence why it's criminal they didn't get a translator till the 3rd day. Spain has literally been full of brits in touristic areas for decades, youd' expect translators to be on hand

Lots of ppl now saying its all a scam and ppl should stop donating immediately.

@janlittle2148

12 күн бұрын

Why would anybody donate? For what?

@KatieBlue16

12 күн бұрын

fbk jay slater discussions tells it all

@nmarshall6794

12 күн бұрын

@@janlittle2148its at like 26k

@lyndkent-cl2oe

12 күн бұрын

What is the donation for?

@user-my8bb6nc1x

12 күн бұрын

Lucy wants British police involved? Yeah, have them investigate HER and Jay when he's "found"

Lucy Law said to a Sky presenter that she phoned '911' Police Emergency No when she should have said '112'. massive slip up there!

@senorra941

11 күн бұрын

Yes, I could understand if she said 999 as she would at home but why 911?

@localbod

11 күн бұрын

​@@senorra941She said it so Americans can relate to it for the 'Go Fund Me', in my opinion.

@senorra941

11 күн бұрын

@@localbod Ah yes! Good point.

@astroterf.

9 күн бұрын

​@@localbodwhy would she do that?

@debram2364

8 күн бұрын

Someone answered this elsewhere, apparently wherever you are if you dial 999 or 911 in another country it still connects you to emergency services in that Country (I am presuming the UK and USA aren't special and the same thing works with all countries emergency numbers) so I am thinking that probably having seen a lot of American TV she opted for 911 thinking that is the emergency number for everywhere outside the UK, and it just connected her. That's my guess.

My hunch is that he is alive and well and it was a planned 'missing persons' to avoid some kind of danger of others.... or jail time or debt, and is now in another country.

@mrcury8014

Күн бұрын

@ConnieGMK tenerife is an island. He would have to fly to another island or by boat would be in west coast of Africa- where a visa would be required.!

@amandasmith3716

20 сағат бұрын

It’s not jail he’s avoiding. He was given community service by a soft Judge for the machete attack on another lad he took part in. More likely drugs debt or stealing from a drug dealer.

The second I heard lucy talking on a news interveiw,I knew she was lying and up to something-from what I can gather is she was as the connection between a gang of drug dealers and jay ,getting a rucksack of drugs off them that she gave to jay to sell at the festival,but apparently jay tucked into it and used a lot got really wasted and lost the rest,meaning he owed ALOT of money and lucy was going to be the one to have to tell the dealers that,so her and jay had a row and she left to distance herself from it all and make some dreaded calls ! Jay took off with two guys who offered to hide him in their remote bed and brekkie,he took a pic to proove to her he wasn’t at the party and told her he was as lost and had no batt cos she was as going mad at him to get back to her and face this ,I think he scarpered and is faking going missing so he dosent get beat up ,and she has set up the go fund me to cover the bill ,30 grand! The mum knows she did the fakest interveiw ever ,fake sniffs ,no tears saying he was such a good boy despite him nearly killing someone in the uk and being in gangs and dealing ! I think he is just hiding out or jumped on a diff bus / boat ,his mum has even had threats since she arrived in tenerife

@jayess5489

12 күн бұрын

He jumped on a dingy and floated back to the UK, He's now in a hotel in Brighton claiming asylum under a new name so there never going to see him again

@wecandothiswarriors

12 күн бұрын

Lol yeah

@lindMW

12 күн бұрын

​@@jayess5489🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's a belter.

@user-nn4wj8gk9s

12 күн бұрын

Great imagination and very believable.or he just wandered about out his head .hopefully the truth will come out

@andywrong3247

12 күн бұрын

I noticed crocodile tears I've seen that before.

There is nothing “allegedly” about him and his gang mates wielding a machete and attacking a young lad….he did do it….he was found guilty in a British criminal court. There is however rumour that him going missing is retribution for that earlier crime!! He apparently has a lot of enemies!

@debscymru788

10 күн бұрын

Is that the young lad that has bravely issued a statement asking people not to focus on that and hoping this kid is found safe and well?

@Crosshatch1212

10 күн бұрын

Lots of

@tricia4900

10 күн бұрын

His workers and boss say he is not like that and very polite and nice..

@michaeljones1445

10 күн бұрын

​@@tricia4900 thats what Harold Shipman's patients said...

@leehorrocks5253

10 күн бұрын

​@@michaeljones1445I live 2 mile away from them, general concensus locally is not revenge.. But more dealing, lost drugs and a debt needing to be paid... Is Lucy the facilitator between a gang and the dealers, which Jay was possibly doing at this festival?

you don't need to speculate about drugs....they're literally at a rave....it's like going to bar & being surprised there's people having a drink. no one hides the fact either

@BlowinFree

10 күн бұрын

You sound about 13

@Kevhuman

10 күн бұрын

​@@BlowinFreeyou can hear them , it's a written comment. Also why ?

@DrMattiLabbratt

8 күн бұрын

Quite so. Interrogation would not be focussed on drug usage/possession in this scenario. It is irrelevant and would be assumed.

@suzyqualcast6269

3 күн бұрын

Keep On etc....

@missladybug319

3 күн бұрын

​@@DrMattiLabbrattunless they were supplying

"Their apartment was miles from civilisation *and in a very secluded location"* It jumped out at me that she added "and in a very secluded location". Not only is it an unnecessary addition, but she specifies that the location is "VERY" secluded. "Secluded" might be leaking the word 'hidden' - as in... 'he' is hidden, as opposed to the location. Also, the word "location" is noteworthy in this context. Its a 'police kind of word', not necessarily consistent with someone whose writing style seems to be transcribing their Northern English speaking style. She also refers to his location as "a 10 hour walk from his hotel". How did she know it was a *10 hour walk* to his hotel? Nobody talks in terms of a 10 hour walk - they would either refer to *car* driving time, or say a 10 mile/kilometer walk. Strange phraseology! Her words give a sense that she is very far removed from the situation; the situation itself is a hopeless needle in a haystack... and perhaps that the guy is hidden. Her use of words is more like crafting an impression than being descriptive or attempting to give information. Rather, the overall vibe is 'concealment'. Love Peter Hyatt and his work! 🌷🌿

@courtneysquill8843

11 күн бұрын

She went to villa that is so secluded and recognised it from the photo he sent amongst hundreds of other villas in hundreds of other villages. So how does she know this villa and it's distance when he pinged her from the mountain. She even spoke to Luton guys. Did she set him up and send him to face the music alone. This is all emotional blackmail. To get money. They should all be arrested. And to copy Michael Moseley's last walk is perverse and disgusting. I think Jay went missing Sunday night. His last photo was Sunday night. We only have the two UK guys and Lucy and the landlady of the villa claiming he was in mountains. They are connected. Lucy finds the not so secluded villa. Lucy came to ping his phone or Brad. Doesn't Brad look a bit like Jay. Jay couldn't have walked 3 miles in 15 mins. Lady in business next door to villa said she never saw the lad at all. Is Jay changing his identity because of his past. Is that why mum let slip his passport was stopped. Why stop his passport.

@courtneysquill8843

11 күн бұрын

Did Brad have a fight with Jay over Lucy. Is that the guilt. Did Brad fight Jay or spike his drink. Why is Brad soooooo quieeeeet

@Takadananobaba112

9 күн бұрын

Yeah that sentence leapt out to me as well for being really suspicious!

@marinka424

3 күн бұрын

I thought “ secluded location” sounded out of place. She uses simpler shorter words the rest of the time. I just assumed she was copying what she’d read on a Tenerife holiday website, that’s how holiday hotels describe themselves ( in a secluded location). It sounds like a typical travel agent/ hotel sales cliche. People who aren’t very literate often copycat like this from other written literature to make themselves sound more intelligent or better educated. Those are not her words. It’s obvious when you look at the rest.

@dietisgreat

3 күн бұрын

You wrote all that just to be wrong get a life

I’ve also noticed that Lucy has said the Spanish police aren’t doing enough, said that the British police are refusing to help when they have offered, but the Spanish police have said they have the resources to do the job. This to me indicates that she’s trying to take any shade away from her and trying to lay blame anywhere else and away from her.

She and Jay went together to Tenerife. They went to a 48 hour "rave", where drinks, drugs and loud music were the intent. Lucy has one glaring lie in her Go-fund-me appeal. Jay went back to a "cheap bed & breakfast" house when the rave ended. He was with 2 other guys. He was seen and spoken to the next day. I've looked at Jays criminal record and it is attrocious. He's a drug dealer and has committed many attacks on others, one where he used a machete. I'm convinced that Jay and Lucy planned his disappearance and gfm money scam. Go-fund-me has announced that it will not release any money until they have spoken to some relevant people.

@lauraspear434

8 күн бұрын

Another boy went missing last year? A go fund me was set up by Lucy, she knows what she is doing

@teresagreen8505

6 күн бұрын

Well it looks like there given her the money

@gibbo822

6 күн бұрын

1 attack and he wasn't directly involved what a mess your comment is

@margarettodd1074

2 күн бұрын

@@lauraspear434 how do you know this ? If she Lucy has done this before that does seem odd. It would be sad if this is indeed a scam , then others that really need help won’t get it 😢

@gaysy1st

2 күн бұрын

​@@gibbo822 He must have been directly involved, or he wouldn't have been found guilty!

It didn't make sense to me why he would choose to walk 10 hours over mountain terrain instead of waiting for 2 hours for the next bus so I was suspicious straight away. Plus the fact he didn't get water at the apartment he went to and allegedly had a leg wound and didn't shower there or anything. The whole thing stinks IMO

@gaysy1st

2 күн бұрын

I agree. I'm sure he could have charged his phone there too. Why did those guys (aged between 35-40) let him leave like that, with no water & no usable phone? Why didn't Jay go back there & ask if he could stay there until the next bus came? Would you really choose to go on a 10 hour walk, in heat, risking becoming dehydrated? Look what happened to Michael Moseley. They reckon he passed out from the heat & would have been dead within a few hours. His family & friends keep saying that he's not stupid, but the trouble is that teenagers always think they know everything, but there are so many things that their brains don't even consider.

@gillianmaxted1856

Күн бұрын

​@@gaysy1stI believe from the videos and statements from other people at the event, Jay was falling on the floor, so must have been soo drunk and or high, therefore the next day he must have still been under the influence of whatever substances and maybe that is why he could not sit still long enough to wait for a bus. The more you hear the worse it becomes.

My senses flew off the charts when I was watching Lucy’s interview. She said Tuesday in the interview, that she immediately called 911, on Monday morning to report him missing. She claimed that right after explaining to the interviewer that she told Jay to “stay where you are, I will come to pick you up” Wouldn’t you try to find him before reporting him missing? Well the emergency number here is 112. Not 911, How can you forget something so important in 24 hrs?…don’t sit right with me. Then she claims the police said they’d send a helicopter out to search for him. When does LE do that from a single phone call? When she was interviewed on screen, she had her back to the camera. Concealing her identity. Something is wrong, I don’t appreciate the way she’s trashing on the emergency services. I get the frustration. Yet all our guys are out there. We have 3 tiers of police here Local, National and Guardia, and they’re all out there searching. Including mountain rescue, and fire department. Shame is that Jay has an abundance of fruit out there and probably doesn’t even know it. These barrancos are full of cactus, with fruits known as “prickly pear” to some. Jay probably went to get more drugs from their apartment after paying them. Probably expecting to drive back with them all. The guys have been questioned and left the island on Tuesday when given the go ahead. There is a very short video of Jay at the club, and his jaw is uncontrollable. I’m not proud to admit, yet I was young once too, and in my experience, he was definitely on something illegal. It’s sad. I do think they’ll find him. Yet I don’t think it will be a rescue. Sad.

@Caroline-bk4xf

12 күн бұрын

Thank you veru much Peter. 😊

@atlanticblue2665

12 күн бұрын

That Lucy Mae Law seems to be lying and seems suspicious......

@misskatejoker6404

12 күн бұрын

This lat has been sentenced for brutal machete attack. Im sure the rumour of his debts only make me sure 5hey are scammer and dr*g 4un

@beat66

12 күн бұрын

Seems like you got carried away with yourself

@Ian.Treherne

12 күн бұрын

@@atlanticblue2665 Having your back to the camera in the interviews is strange to me.

I love listening to you explain Statement Analysis. Thank you for putting these videos out

Thank you so much for covering this. It opens up the whole picture which doesn't come across in UK news.

His mother knew he was going out to sell drug's for the weekend festival and he was helping himself and not paying for it so now he is in trouble because he is not the gangster person he thinks he is maybe at home but always someone else who is further up the chain and you don't mess around with that. Lucy also lying about where he was too police and searches don't have a chance when lucy has not told the truth. The 30,000 is money he owed the gangsters for taking drug's and not paying. Fact

@col8353

4 күн бұрын

Hahahahahaha FACT ok Sherlock.

@mycrimetime

4 күн бұрын

@@col8353 wait and see not long now and they will find him. That's what happens when you play gangsta

@suzyqualcast6269

3 күн бұрын

How much of any buzz d'you think a bod can use to sort themselves of a weekender that = £30k ¿?

She didnt want to be interviewed in sight was strange considering this is her friend and very concerned

@courtneysquill8843

11 күн бұрын

She's a drug peddler that found the villa in the middle of nowhere where there's no civilisation. So she knew address and the boys as she knocked on door and spoke to them. They should have checked out Monday. Why didn't they.

@SummerMayDay

10 күн бұрын

She’s *allegedly* a drug dealer who goes to Tenerife regularly to do so at raves.

How do you get phone reception in the mountains at 1%

Its my opinion that this is Drug related.. if it was true that he had no phone or water common sense would have told him to stay at the Bus stop where his friends could have given the Police a point of pick up...this case doesn't make sense..l've be delving more into Lucy...thanks for another great analysis Peter.👌

Is it a possibility that the 'Go Fund Me' request is to pay off a debt - or is a ransom - to get him released from whoever might be holding him, due to a drug 'deal' gone wrong?

Lucy is a well known drug mule , she had introduced Jay to that World but he messed up on his first attempt , he lost a rucksack with £17K of drugs in it , gang is holding him until it's paid back, they appear to be treating him well, fed,washed and watching the Euros Football with him.

There’s a story floating around alledging that all 3 were selling drugs at the festival for big time drug dealers. Apparently it’s Lucy who recruits some of them, Jay being on his first job, but he consumed a lot of the drugs and lost his ‘bag of drugs’, resulting in the situation now. It’s an interesting story and makes sense in many ways, however I’m not sure how credible the source and story is. I saw the post of Facebook tonight

@R8V10

12 күн бұрын

The Mocro Mafia have been mentioned on his Facebook page,

@wecandothiswarriors

12 күн бұрын

You know what, it’s looking like that might be the reason he’s disappeared. As each day passes

@7547JAMES

12 күн бұрын

Makes sense, this is probably what happened. The story being put out seems off.

@Oakleaf700

12 күн бұрын

@@7547JAMES I agree...a young lad being given a bag of coke and E {?} probably ''got high on his own supply'' - he looks zammo'd on one of the vids at the 'rave'.... if he lost the drugs he could be in trouble. They do seem to be small time dealers - I once found a bag of ''UPS'' in the street {Europe} a few years ago - I handed them in to police that were about as it was a weekend....I didn't want them personally, and didn't want kids finding them.

@user-eh8cg4bp3y

12 күн бұрын

Interesting 🤔 That's a brilliant comment, thank you. Considering we keep hearing that he didn't actually arrange the trip and wasn't very keen to go initially .... Why not? Was she the one who arranged it, I wonder? Could it even be related to his machete attack? Certainly, there's something missing in this story 🤨🇬🇧

This statement appears to have been put together by more than one person. From the TV interview, Lucy sounds young, yet here uses words/ phrases such as " aware of his surroundings/ desperately needed/miles from civilization/secluded location/frantically" that sound like they came from an older person embellishing/re-writing Lucy's words for dramatic effect/authenticity/to underline the gravity of the situation. While I understand in such a case, close family members would need to scramble to book flights/take time off work to go to Tenerife which would cost money, I'd like to think in a genuine missing person case, you'd just put it on a credit card and sort things like paid holiday later and focus on finding the guy before crowd funding....

Thank you for covering this. It is extremely hot and dry there with very rough terrain. If he wasn’t carrying water, unfortunately his chances of surviving this long are not good. Unfortunately drugs are easily accessible also. I hope they find him. 🙏💙🙏

@DrMattiLabbratt

8 күн бұрын

If the narrative postulated by his “friend” is true, then sadly Jay is extremely likely to have died on that day, and his body is yet to be found. If the narrative in false, and Jay is at another location and this is a scam of some order, then he may well be alive. For his and his family’s sakes, I hope that the latter is the truth

@mrcury8014

Күн бұрын

@calgal5752 that is only if you believe what this lucy has said.

I am British and the Go Fund Me page is written by someone with very poor English and grammar.

@lyndkent-cl2oe

12 күн бұрын

Grammar?...or Liar?....Not all British have the best "grammar?"

@deegralak-roe

12 күн бұрын

It's not unusual in the UK. Very often people just can't spell. This includes even managers who theoretically should be better educated.

@user-my8bb6nc1x

12 күн бұрын

Did you hear how she speaks? "Like" every other word. Scammers

@RushmoorFizzbomb

12 күн бұрын

“ Civilization” is the American spelling. I don’t know why she used the American spelling. Perhaps she is a sad product of the failing education in English in the UK education system.

@pokoz5941

11 күн бұрын

It's normal for people to talk that in Burnley lol

Lucy is tired because it’s exhausting to have to deal with and cover up a drug deal that has gone wrong and events that she’s involved in are spiralling

He was seen at a bus stop at 8, and was lost in the mountains dying of thirst by 8.30. This whole story stinks, either someone disappeared him because of whatever he’s involved in, or it’s a go fund me scam in my opinion.

@glennhall6615

9 күн бұрын

more likely to be the former IMO

@jacko2815

9 күн бұрын

He had money for the bus but no money water seems legit doesnt it

@margaretkiernan9957

9 күн бұрын

I think so too but what gang is he in

@TriTr-gk8bo

9 күн бұрын

The Oswaldtwsistle crisps.

@TriTr-gk8bo

9 күн бұрын

*Crips even. 🤣

I have been looking on KZread for one of my favourite channels to pick up this story. Thank you! 🙏

Peter, you must analyse the video interview with his mother, and how conclusive she is about him being abducted. Similarly there are videos of Lucy retelling her gofundme tale over and over verbatim. Red flags 🚩🚩

Just another gofundme scam.

I don’t know how long a phone call you could make with 1% battery, but he seems to have given her a lot of information in that time 🤔

@astroterf.

9 күн бұрын

Mine won't even make an outgoing call on 1% battery...it's BS!

@jacquelinehunt7794

9 күн бұрын

Not possible.

@astroterf.

9 күн бұрын

@@jacquelinehunt7794 not even slightly!

This gentlemen is making a lot of sense This is an excellent analysis

In terms of the excess information, she also said that, "One of the people he has met has hired a car out of here, so he's driven them back to his apartment and Jay has gone there not realising how far away it is." Seems like all of this including the hire car information is quite detailed for someone who only spoke to Jay when his battery was on 1 percent and he was lost. There is quite a detailed back story which does appear pre-emptive. There's also the new photo of her partying next to Jay in the night club which is said to be from the early hours of the morning (although the police are keeping the exact timing rather close to their chests). She said she 'left early' but did not specify what time this was.

Hi Peter, thank you for all your analysis of the years. Could you do one on whatvyou think of Jays mothers interview to the press.

My suspicion was triggered soon as I read that another guy had gone missing on holiday so soon after the missing TV doctor - they messed up a drug deal and are using the ‘gone missing’ story to cover up and escape.

I live in Tenerife and never heard of 1 degree celsius in that area it is possibile only in winter time on volcano Teide.

Yes, "off" means "from" in this instance. It's actually quite common in the UK for people to say"got a call off" even though it's not grammatically correct.

@PeterHyatt

12 күн бұрын

Thank you

@MizzTH-G

12 күн бұрын

Yep, it’s now a common dialect in the UK

@mol588

11 күн бұрын

​@PeterHyatt Hello Peter, thanks for your video . Tenerife is a very small island, around 60 x 20 miles in size . It's pronounced Tenereef 👍

@marinka424

3 күн бұрын

“Got a call off”, is that a northern colloquialism, or teenage slang? I’m English, and never heard it before, but I think I can imagine northerners saying it, perhaps in a Lancashire or Yorkshire accent.

@userJ1J123

3 күн бұрын

@marinka424 It's quite common everywhere in UK. I'm in the south and I hear it regularly.

For a go fund me appeal it seems a lot about Lucy's itinerary rather than jays situation

So many holes in this - I wonder if Lucy says he was in the mountains etc when he was never was - just a misdirection?

She’s distancing herself from the whole situation because it’s bad and she would rather him disappear than get in trouble

I think she’s involved in him going missing 100

@wecandothiswarriors

12 күн бұрын

Same here

Again, according to 'the media', Jay's mother was initially against the GoFundMe account, which Lucy opened without any communication with the family. However it appears Jay's mum changed her mind even though the British embassy is apparently financially supporting the families trip to Tenerife. So, why would she change her mind? Could it be that the exact GoFundMe sum request of £30,000 is coincidentally the same amount as the ransom for Jay's return and that Lucy had to explain that to Jay's mother, and if so might account for anomalous responses in interviews by the parents? The exact sum of £30,000 is mentioned in the detailed text message sent via social media, and related to the eight young drug traffickers whose lives are (it claimed) in great danger if the money isn't returned... Lucy has not shown us her face neither has she offered her full name. The video is named 'KZread Asylum', and is 4 days old. I encourage you to kindly watch, if you can please.

Pumped and dumped - drunk , maybe pills taken - not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree , of a generation that cant find the corner shop without help from their phones - any of these factors would be a recipe for disaster

Lucy calling for british police is posponderous. It would be ironic if they were deal drugs.his mother appeared to have crocodile tears

How does she no he left to go to party if she left earlier than everyone else and alone

@user-cv5kz4fp2b

12 күн бұрын

Yes. Where is the third person. They were with?

Great analysis Pete. Thank you.

This is like the Nicola Bulley case. Everyone watching and distracted

@courtneysquill8843

11 күн бұрын

Yep and the Russians are arming and bills are being passed and a meteor is on its way. Nicola Bulley was a hoax too. Strange coroner's report. Witnesses lies remain unquestioned. Spouse timeline is up the spout.

@JM-The_Curious

11 күн бұрын

And all the conspiracy theories, when in reality it was Occam's razor and she'd slipped into the river.

@courtneysquill8843

11 күн бұрын

@@JM-The_Curious No evidence she slipped in the river. Coroner could not determine where. Fitbit conflicts with coroners report. I think that was a staged event too. I think drugs is the common denominator in both cases.

Small time criminals thinking they can keep doing what they do on a first time holiday abroad in a place they know little about then find themselves mixing with the big boys and end up way out of their depth - Then things go horribly wrong

Two points: if your battery is at 1%, you TEXT rather than call. And mostly, when abroad, people use Whatsapp which can pinpoint location easily on a map pinged to as many recipients as the sender wants from just one text. But we're supposed to believe he called just one person? And also, his criminal conviction is not 'alleged' - a 30 second search will discover the conviction and the judge's comments.

@DrMattiLabbratt

8 күн бұрын

Exactly so. Excellent and incisive deduction

@nicolasimpkins3640

5 күн бұрын

Nope by the time you text it still runs out

@DrMattiLabbratt

5 күн бұрын

@@nicolasimpkins3640 Possibly so, but less likely that a call

A guy just posted saying a lot of info about this Jay and how she is a drugs runner and recruits people to sell at large events.

@LdnLady

12 күн бұрын

Jay is a he not a she

@d.b.cooper1

12 күн бұрын

i mean this is the kids first time abroad without his parents...so lol i doubt he's selling drugs when the locals/brits who live in these areas easily dominate this area themselves. but the guy has a shady past for sure

@Gimenez528Hz

12 күн бұрын

​@@LdnLadyBeth, is talking about Lucy, not Jay

@beth24me

12 күн бұрын

@@Gimenez528Hz thanks, i did mean lucy.

@fozzydare7987

12 күн бұрын

@@d.b.cooper1clearly this is entirely speculation - but if he/they (Lucy and co) were dealing drugs maybe they have stepped on someone’s toes

When lucy left alone where was the other friend also why as the other friend not spoke out🤔 Jay was 💯 off his head on drugs at the rave, it stood out a mile. He has past with drugs. The last thing on my mind would be to set up a go fund me, i would be out looking and not leave the place he was last seen until i found him.

@angelawatson7740

5 күн бұрын

She was taken to the area by an American woman and spoke to the two men at the airb&b . After which she moved to the area to be near the search .

Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. I have learned a lot from you and I am so grateful😊

This lad does seem to have a criminal past and possible substance misuse. This also echos the story of Micheal Mosley and his unfortunate walk home. Something very suspicious about the whole issue

@sarahForensicCriminologistBSc

3 күн бұрын

They probably came up with this story as it was around the same time Mosely was found.

They’ve either hidden him good till they get the 30k he owed for the bag of drugs that went missing, or unfortunately they’ve panicked during the kidnapping and stuck him in a deep hole or to bottom of sea and fled.

I just don't understand why people donate to go fund me.

@acreativiter

12 күн бұрын

Mum and perhaps other relatives need financial support to stay in Tenerife while searching for son :last minute trip, accommodation, food, transport, etc …

@Nathalie7774

11 күн бұрын

@@acreativitershe never said that was the case.

@jesclifford88

10 күн бұрын

@@acreativitershe’s posted an update on the page saying that they’re not paying for any of that with the funds raised so what’s it for?

How did she know he left with 2 men and went far aeay, if she left early and alone and eent to sleep...

I was watching and hoping for this Peter!! 👍😊 Thanks

Tenerife (we pronounce it Tenner Reef) is very popular for young British tourists.

@gateshead_angel

12 күн бұрын

Tenna reef lol

@Katzzzz

12 күн бұрын

More like Sodom and Gomorrah, amirite. It didn't used to be like that. What a low bar for behaviour getting rare holidays to Tenerife and partying with his recent offending.

Sir you are wildly overestimating the British educational system if you expect her to quote in the correct person.

@calgal5752

12 күн бұрын

Same in the US unfortunately….they don’t know the difference between to, too, and two either

@clairegreenwood1910

12 күн бұрын

I’m in the UK and notice lots of young people use the word ‘use’ instead of the correct spelling ‘you’.

@finnishinsider1569

12 күн бұрын

@calgal5752 Correct. I’ve always wondered why so many Americans say “could care less”, instead of the correct term - couldn’t care less.

@Katzzzz

12 күн бұрын

​@@clairegreenwood1910as in, youse, plural of you. Read Irvine Welsh if you can lol I would love to see you streaming that if you think British people are misusing terms instead of learning colloquiallisms by asking questions or even paying the slightest interest, instead of presuming.

@calgal5752

12 күн бұрын

@@finnishinsider1569 Exactly….that drives me nuts

Great !! Its a pleasure to lessen to you .

"discernment" is a useful concept. Thank you, Peter.

Great analysis Peter

Latest info...he was seen at 8am at the bus stop which is beside the air bnb. He asks the airbnb owner when the next bus is twice, hes told 10am, he walks away and a woman sees him walking in the oppsote direction he should be going. He called his friend at 8.44 to get him instead she called thr police They claim the gofundme is to get information and rewards??

Lucy gave an interview to Good morning telly, but hid her face. His Mum gave interviews. And they’re so dodgy!

@KatieBlue16

12 күн бұрын

she makes the noise like she's crying, but not one tear shed

@tinydancer2544

12 күн бұрын

​@@KatieBlue16Agree 💯

@acreativiter

12 күн бұрын

With the amount of conspiracies on her already… I wouldn’t show my face either …

@TheoUK87

12 күн бұрын

@@KatieBlue16 I saw that each time o watched the interview....and also pay pay close attention when she talks about hism going again for another festival in the future and other trips, her voice gets normal for a few seconds..weird, you would think she wouldn't like that to happen again, but nah sounds 'normal'

@user-my8bb6nc1x

12 күн бұрын

Disgusting if it's true they're scamming

Excellent analysis as usual

It's clear that they were all on drugs. That's how these festivals work. She left early as she was exhausted - probably dancing for 48 hours non-stop. He has gone with two guys who probably offered more drugs after the dancing. The problem is that at 19 years old you don't have the experience to know danger when it's right in front of you. So, he's alone, out his head, thirsty and confused. I don't think this will end well.... All my own interpretation no offence to anyone implyed.

@risenshine2783

12 күн бұрын

Yes it seems logical. Poor young man, traumatised , violent past, impoverished environment, I know where he is from, young white males are not given the help they need growing up. Imagine a girl going off on her own..well noone would let it happen

Lucy makes regular 'trips' to Tenerif. Locals are saying she's a drugs mule. What's the betting she got this county lines drug dealer kid involved. Lucy is up to her neck involved in his disappearance.

The first thing I thought when I heard about Jay slater is we need hyatt on this asap

I zhought from the very beginning that her statement of what happened was not right she is lying

Yes it does seem odd that she has not given her surname and doesent want to be interviewed what ever has happened to him !!!!!! she clearly doesent want to be identified !!!!!

The mothers appeal is very telling!!!

@Mike75575

12 күн бұрын

Do tell.

@Mike75575

12 күн бұрын

@@leannemc225 Sounds more like the real story imho 👍

@gillianlaing1073

10 күн бұрын

Went to get her nails done,just what you're going to do when your sons missing

@catwomanh3603

6 күн бұрын

​@@gillianlaing1073and her eyebrows too....

Amongst the several 'odd' turns of phrase in the Go Fund Me statement, is what appears to me to be the even more odd target figure quoted. Why £30,000? £10,000 would have been more than adequate to pay for the family to travel to Tenerife & rent accommodation. Go Fund Me appeals frequently far exceed the target amount. Lucy would have been well aware of this. Therefore, this raises a very important question: was £30,000 an amount of money which was very much NEEDED for some reason or other? Her GFM statement is all about her, & screams to me of misdirection & untruth.

I think this is very upsetting for Jays family….this Lucy person sounds really suspicious! Why does she want money? It’s all got so many holes she needs to be investigated and I mean by police. I hope Jay is safe and maybe he’s confused and now might be worried he will get into trouble. I pray for him and his family.😢😢

I became suspicious the minute the MSM started covering this case, therefore I am here trying to get the detail they don't want to give us.

@engste678

12 күн бұрын

Same. Narrative forming.

@debbiejames3096

12 күн бұрын

same here

@KatieBlue16

12 күн бұрын

fbk jay slater discussions

@lyndkent-cl2oe

12 күн бұрын

Google Lancashire UK...eight lads attacked TOM HILTON with a machete/golf club...2021

@harpsailorharp6716gg

12 күн бұрын

it's another nicola bulley psyop

Lots of dodgy people involved aren't there?

I’ve only just started paying attention to this case, so sorry if this is a stupid question. If he left the secluded building at 8am, surely he had access to running water there, so wouldn’t he have had a drink of tea or coffee or water before he left, and if it was a hot day, taken a bottle of water with him, and wouldn’t he have charged his phone before leaving. Lucy is talking as if by 8.30am, he was dehydrated and on the point of collapse. Anyone would think he’d been away from electricity and running water for 24 hours. I’m struggling to piece together the time line from all the news clips, so I apologise if the answer is obvious to anyone knowing all the facts.

Maybe Jay was not functioning well after the long festival weekend, partying, and whatever might have gone on at the apartment with the two older men. Seems odd that he opted to set out on a ten hour walk to his hotel because he missed the bus, rather than wait just ten minutes for the next bus - apparently the bus runs every ten minutes and the bus stop is next to the apartment where the two men were staying. Why didn’t he call for a taxi, or ask someone to call a taxi for him, rather than walk until he has only 1% charge on his phone? Did he intentionally walk ‘until’ only 1% remained, then intentionally disappear?, That could sound like a plan, but if so, whose plan - Jay’s, Lucy’s, unnamed others? I wonder if he was so anxious to get away that he would not wait for the next bus, or if he just was not feeling well and didn’t realise he was so very far from his hotel. Lucy’s GoFundMe does raise questions - my first thought was that she was narrative building rather than simply saying that Jay is missing, and we need help to pay for flights and accommodation for his family, or whatever - but she doesn’t specify how the fund will be used. It raises questions as to why really was she there - was there a reason (GoFundMe) beyond attending the festival? Did Jay go willingly with the older men, or was he taken? Seems odd he would leave with two new much older acquaintances, at night, without a friend. What type of friends let him go - did they - or was he taken? Lucy had already left, so she can say it was nothing to do with her, and it may not have had anything to do with her. Still, she felt like explaining it. Guilt or alibi? Why does she say the area is “far from civilisation”, when there are at least apartments, a shop, and a bus service which runs at ten minute intervals? Hardly a lone shack in the mountains, even if it is off the beaten track - the bus is civilisation. I think it doesn’t look good for Jay - his mother will travel to Tenerife, just to sit in the hotel, but she won’t even visit the search area, or see where her son last was known to have been. Might as well sit at home and wait for news, IMO. Fifteen family members and friends are gathered in Tenerife, so maybe the GoFundMe is to finance all of them - seems like a lot, but Tenerife is nice at this time of year. Jay does have a serious crime in his past, and some speculate that his disappearance could be payback for what he and his friends did to the boy they attacked. I think it’s likely he wanted to get away from the men in haste, and probably was under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol. There could have been a plan, but maybe not the one he anticipated, if he did. I don’t know. I hope he is found safe, even if he is partying on the other side of the island - seems unlikely after five days, unless he’s part of a GoFundMe scam. I would think that, except it seems dark for two older men to take a young boy they had just met to their apartment, miles across the island, late at night. They could have done something to him, left him unfit to make his way home.

@jewelssunsun9450

10 күн бұрын

Apparently the bus was a 2 hour wait.

@heyjude4679

10 күн бұрын

@@jewelssunsun9450 Yes, I’ve also read that since commenting. A two hour interval does seem more likely for a bus service in a remote location. Pity he didn’t wait, poor lad.

Substances are used at every festival, by most of the participants there. The drugs are already on the islands and are cheap and readily available. It's pretty normal practice. They're party islands for Brits. People don't normally go missing, though.

What you forget is British English is made up of very different forms of syntax and semantics depending on what county you live in. So what may sound suspicious is actually how some one might talk.

@FromThe3021

12 күн бұрын

Example please.

@user-my8bb6nc1x

12 күн бұрын

Why didn't she disclose her last name? Why the lack of transparency?

@debscymru788

11 күн бұрын

@@user-my8bb6nc1x it's a go fund me! Why would she?

@debscymru788

11 күн бұрын

@@user-my8bb6nc1x she doesn't need too. It's not an interrogation. In UK the gov bags us not to disclose personal details online. She did what she was supposed to do. Transparency laws do not apply in UK. Check facts before sprouting off.

@clare2401

11 күн бұрын

This man is one if the world's experts in statement analysis and you want to tell him how language works? 🤦‍♀️😒

Brilliant Peter as usual 👏

him and his horrible little group attacked someone

@margaretcurrie4093

9 күн бұрын

Yes and now that person is in prison.. For robbing an old lady.. 😉Bad as each other..

Could listen to you for hours

My opinion is that he went off with the 2 guys to a) do drugs in their apartment or b) he was offered a 3-way. I think he was still under the influence in the morning either from drink or drugs and whilst walking he's fallen down a ravine.

@onewomanandherdog5219

12 күн бұрын

Thank you for being the first person to mention a 3 way, that's been my thought from the start and I believe that is what Lucy is hiding.

@name-ce7sn

12 күн бұрын

Is a 3 way a threesome as in kinky stuff? I'm don't know what the dlang means.

Very good analysis

Apparently he was involved in a crime before with a group of friends.....they chased another guy into the woods, armed with a golf club, machete and one other weapon and split the guy's skull open. The guy survived. Jay and his corhorts were in court snd laughed among themselves throughout th proceedings.

@misskatejoker6404

12 күн бұрын

Exactly. Gangsters on the rise

@rosita3528

12 күн бұрын

Reading comments on here all day and apparently the guy they attacked had attacked and robbed an old lady and has his own criminal record. Also apparently in jail. Didn't seem to stop people giving him sympathy.

@mariekeating6459

12 күн бұрын

@@rosita3528 if that's true, then they're all a right load of thugs altogether!

@mariekeating6459

12 күн бұрын

@@rosita3528 lovely lads altogether.........

@astroterf.

9 күн бұрын

​@@rosita3528 bad person doing something to another bad person doesn't make them a good person lol

Don't do drugs. If you do do drugs, be with people you trust. If you do drugs and suffer ill effects ALWAYS put your health and life before any fear of later repercussions from the law as trouble can be solved, death can't ! Also, if phone dying, use last of power to record a voicemail explaining any useful information and whereabouts you believe you are as this information will be available even when your phone dies. X

it was safe for her to leave alone to go home yet jay goes missing

Theres more to this than people involved are letting on

65 year old british woman here,i don't drink alcohol at all but i frequently say i need a drink when I'm thirsty meaning water or anything from cola to tea.if you do not know british colloquium then don't try to analyse a statement made by a British person.

@asbocazbo

12 күн бұрын

Spot on!!! ❤

@plynn136

11 күн бұрын

But Brits love to analyze everyone else's ways of speaking. Just stop.

@simpleshoes

10 күн бұрын

⁠66 year old Canadian woman here and we also say we need a drink when we mean we need water etc.

@lorraine.bernardettehoole7743

10 күн бұрын

I haven't heard him interpret this as him wanting alcohol. I think we are all clear that he means water.

Hi Peter Im just at the start of your video & so not sure if anyone’s already commented but Tenerife is pronounced Tenereef. Partying for 3 days with drink/drugs/both, plus the sun, is tiring to be fair. Also do you know Jay was involved in a crime before & that his mother got a snapchat saying he owed lot of money to someone? Is it possible they’re trying to get this £ back via the gofundme? I suppose it’s quite possible

@betir5151

10 күн бұрын

any info about who sent that message ?? or was that message “staged” to go in the direction of “abduction“ !?! kind of a Maddie McCann kind of scheme….

So, what's the gofund money for then, seem to have money for drugs and drink?

@suzyqualcast6269

3 күн бұрын

Wish.

If your 'phone battery is virtually discharged & you're in dire straits, you TEXT to save battery power so your 'phone can continue to 'ping'. Additionally, why not charge his 'phone at the Airbnb? The evidence so far presented seems to suggest that he never went to that remote bnb. Lucy later claimed that she had 'tracked down' the location of the Airbnb, knocked on the door & was told he had left. Question: If Jay's 'phone was on 1%, how was she able to glean sufficient information from him before the battery actually died? Question: How do we know that Lucy ever received a call from Jay? We only have Lucy's word that she received a call from him. I'm convinced that Lucy knows exactly what happened.

Jay has been missing for 10 days. I am watching every hour here in UK because I cannot imagine how his parents feel