So, fun fact I just learned, apparently Dionysus is associated with the first recorded "He's right behind me, isn't he?" joke in history. In one of the many plays about Dionysus, there's a bit where Dionysus and a friend travel through the underworld and they talk about all the horrible monsters they could encounter. At one point, Dionysus's friend is describing a particularly horrible monster he doesn't want to meet and Dionysus starts acting like he's afraid of something off stage and the friend is like, "Oh, no! Please don't tell me that the monster is just over there now!"

@Kelaiah01

6 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh, that is all kinds of hilarious and awesome! What play was that?

@cheezemonkeyeater

6 ай бұрын

@@Kelaiah01 I don't remember. It was referenced in another video I came across, but I don't remember the play's name. I'd have to see if I could find the video again.

@Kelaiah01

6 ай бұрын

@@cheezemonkeyeater Ah, that's too bad. Oh well. Hopefully one of us will find it! :)

@cheezemonkeyeater

6 ай бұрын

@@Kelaiah01 I'm pretty sure the video was specifically about the history of the "He's right behind me" joke.

@kidstothestreets9104

6 ай бұрын

was the video by TREY the explainer? i think its the play called the frogs by artistophanes?

The cult of Dionysus was especially known for feeling devious, looking glamorous, getting mischievous, and polyamorous.

@Alusnovalotus

11 ай бұрын

So he can MC gay pride then. 🏳️‍🌈

@menhera758

11 ай бұрын

I was so sad that red didnt do that song at the end

@SirSaintRipper

11 ай бұрын

With wine and women and wonderful vices

@Grim_Ghost589

11 ай бұрын

Welcome to the cult of Dionysus 🎶

@fntthesmth423

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I cannot like this comment, because it currently has 69 likes

honestly, a characterization of dionysus where he is an outgoing party animal who's super chill most of the time but absolutely reminds you why he is technically a god of death and also of hallucinations when you fuck up sounds incredible. not only do you get a three dimensional character with a sense of mystery proper of a god, it also works as a reminder of both sides of drinking and partying.

@ianhogben3472

8 ай бұрын

and when the mood takes him being completely unhinged

@Dokataa

8 ай бұрын

He generally a god of insanity. In Greece they didn’t know why people acted weird after drinking wine, so they decided “oh Dionysus”

@girlinthetardis.0418

3 күн бұрын

✍️ jotting this down for Dionysus's appearance in my story tysm

Athena: Welcome to the Esoteric Birth Club! We got Aphrodite! Dionysus: Uh...where's everyone else? Athena: They were born the old fashioned way.

@dwell7315

7 ай бұрын

I always forget that Aphrodite is part of the club! If they wouldn't get creeped out by and/or fight each other, the Furies, also born of Ouranos' blood (which technically makes them Aphrodite's SISTERS?!?!?!) would be in the club as well

@adrianfigueroa6788

6 ай бұрын

If we’re talking gods only then yes that would be good but if we’re including non gods the furies (megeara, Alecto and tisiphone)

@puppies3330

5 ай бұрын

aren’t the furies goddesses of divine punishment? +the primordial gods that came from chaos would also be included

@adrianfigueroa6788

5 ай бұрын

@@puppies3330 nah the furies as far as I’m aware are not goddesses since the goddess of divine punishment is nemesis. But the furies also fill that role but live in the house of hades. The only time I could see them being called goddesses is if they’re getting the appallo and Artemis treatment with Helios and Selene

@puppies3330

5 ай бұрын

@@adrianfigueroa6788 ohhhhhhhh

So,basically,he was a good child,went through an emo phase,and is now a hippie? Sweet

@rhys2275

4 жыл бұрын

megan allen ... yes

@dylanchouinard6141

4 жыл бұрын

Mood

@zucchinibyday

4 жыл бұрын

That's a wide ass mood

@wylee9

4 жыл бұрын

that's me honestly

@makki0s

4 жыл бұрын

megan allen sounds like me lmfao

So basically Dionysus grew backwards, from "mature looking" edgy and moody teenager with destructive powers to "young looking" chill and party animal adult with destructive powers.

@bobatea7608

3 жыл бұрын

the destructive powers stayed

@mushroomkaat2667

3 жыл бұрын

@@breezythaprof what do you mean at least , cutie Dionysus is way better than edgy Dionysus :3

@flameconvoy7424

3 жыл бұрын

He’s drunk Benjamin button

@jerryeverest7098

3 жыл бұрын

@@flameconvoy7424 i thought this as well. May your day be pleasant, and may you find happiness along your youtubeing path freind!

@bluelfsuma

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, every dude looks younger when they shave (y'know, until wrinkles start coming in).

I'm just imagining Dionysus sitting in camp half-blood, drinking diet coke and remembering the good old days where he had a literally insane cult

@skillissue707

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yes

@Grim_Ghost589

11 ай бұрын

I’m imagining the campers just watching Dionysus sulk, thinking about the good days when he had horns & a crazed cult. The campers would be one-of-two things: confused or just not caring.

@TimeskipCronos

8 ай бұрын

"Had" implies strict past-tense. For some odd reason, I don't think that's entirely right. ~ P

@wildcardjoey4776

7 ай бұрын

Dionysus: I used to be an eldrich horror, you know

@metarcee2483

6 ай бұрын

the diet Coke is mixed with booze. Dionysus is incapable of being sober.

Fun fact: The game Hades actually acknowledges the connection between Zagreus and Dionysus by making it a joke that Zagreus and Dionysus play on Orpheus

@JaelinBezel

11 ай бұрын

Confusing the canon

"what does feral wildlife and crippling insanity have to do with a fine chardonnay?" Well, someone's *clearly* not going to the right parties

@chocochipzzz4434

4 жыл бұрын

I died when I read that

@Silverwind87

3 жыл бұрын

Dionysus invented raves and furry conventions.

@TORchic1

3 жыл бұрын

Drunken Furry Convention After-Parties?

@kariscoyne1886

3 жыл бұрын

@@TORchic1 I was actually thinking bush doofs but you know what? You're absolutely right.

@Rabijeel

3 жыл бұрын

Or did not play Fallout Series or The Elder Scrolls Series..... And: 1001 - Sweet Nights, Sherezade.

Damn, Dionysus aged like fine wine. He progressively kept getting younger than his previous selves

@slateoffate9812

4 жыл бұрын

How fitting.

@Pyrotigre2

4 жыл бұрын

He pulled a weird Al

@alexkeaden2741

4 жыл бұрын

He did a Benjamin Button

@LordAmerican

4 жыл бұрын

The illustrations made it seem like he went from middle-aged dude, to slightly less middle-aged dude, to edgy teenager, backstepping slightly to introverted millenial, and then finally going back forward to party animal teenager.

@katiearbuckle9017

4 жыл бұрын

He's the Doctor lol

Another intriguing thing about Dionysus is his relationship with Ariadne. Whether he threatened Theseus to abandon her on Naxos or he just found her after Theseus abandoned her of his own volition (everyone has their own interpretation), one constant with retellings of how they met is that Dionysus absolutely _loved_ this girl. He loved her so much that it appears that this hedonistic god _became monogamous_ when he married her. He loved her so much that when she died (whether it be suicide or murder, again based on interpretation) that he refused to let her stay dead. As in he went to the Underworld basically saying “Eff you, I’m taking my wife home” and just up and left with her. Oh, and he took his mom home with him for good measure too, and had them both turned into goddesses. Pretty heartwarming stuff.

@joshc5613

Жыл бұрын

I don't know about the monogamous part, but it definitely says a lot that a god of sexual liberty would get married

@PolishAxolotl

Жыл бұрын

My favourite love story from greek mythology 💜🖤🍷

@sonofjack6286

Жыл бұрын

I don't really think Hades would mind letting his nephew take his girlfriend back with him, or his mom, he's got enough of Zeus's ex-girlfriends to handle in Tartarus.

@MonsieurBananaTheBetter

Жыл бұрын

Ah, got to love how the god of partying and insanity treats women better than zeus.

@MrCyplixo

Жыл бұрын

@@sonofjack6286 Hades do be quite chill. Besides kidnapping/arranging the marriage with Persephone he has consistently proved himself to be one of the most wholesome gods. He stays true to his wife, he does his job, he gives heroes planty of opportunities to save their loved ones and gotta love that according to research, the name of his GIANT THREE HEADED FUCK OFF HELL HOUND translates to Spot.

Dionysus: *casually turns his kidnappers insane via loud flutes and snakes* Also dionysus: "this grape juice is very strong"

Our theater teacher gave us 3 words to remember this guy: The God of Sex, Drugs, and Rock n Roll

@nunyabisness7055

4 жыл бұрын

Thats 5

@Kimosabes2hot

4 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabisness7055 it was theater, not math

@Dean-nq8so

4 жыл бұрын

Your theatre teacher hasn’t even heard of Zeus if he’s the god of sex

@pseudonym8667

4 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabisness7055 uhh

@registheron9752

4 жыл бұрын

So Dionysus is Slaanesh. Got it

Okay but is he feeling devious, looking glamorous, and getting mischievous and polyamorous???

@anonguy772

3 жыл бұрын

@Kyrlics Yes there are - Welcome to the cult of *pause* Dionysus!

@CJCroen1393

3 жыл бұрын

I know this is supposed to be a reference but yes, actually he _is_ all of those things! Though in some myths he ditches the “polyamory” part after learning it upsets his wife.

@lemon_boii1074

3 жыл бұрын

@@CJCroen1393 gee, who would have thought that infidelity was upsetting (unless you have a cuckold kink in which case I put this here cause I HAVE seen it before)

@Aldrnarii

3 жыл бұрын

@@lemon_boii1074 Polyamory doesn't need to be infidelity if she had agreed to it too

@chromatic_fate7114

3 жыл бұрын

Me, a Critical Role fan: Mollymauk?

i want a show with the three versions of dionysus as roommates. helenic dionysus as happy go lucky party boy, orphic dionysus as chaotic unhinged trickster, and mycenaean dionysus as a vaguely creepy but laid back dude.

@yourpalbryan1442

8 ай бұрын

That'd be a dope sitcom ngl

@ieatplaster9884

6 ай бұрын

Zagreus is their next door neighbor

@eric2500

6 ай бұрын

Love it. "All My Avatars"

@TimeskipCronos

6 ай бұрын

​@@ieatplaster9884I offer: Zagreus is Orphic Dionysus' twin. ~ C

@andistansbury4366

4 ай бұрын

The background noises (laugh track and stuff) are a Greek chorus

"Closing Time" is actually PERFECT for Dionysus because although it's ostensibly a song about drunk people leaving a bar, it's actually a metaphor for birth. Lines such as "time for you to go out to the places you will be from," and "every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end," imply that the bar patrons are children going out into the real world for the first time.

“Alexander the pretty alright” I’m fucking dying.

@itarry4

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen their video on Alexander the Great yet. Basically the only Alexander the......... That isn't used is the great.

@arianewinter4266

3 жыл бұрын

it never gets old ^^

@myneighborsnorlax3780

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite bit they do

@ojutay8375

3 жыл бұрын

@@itarry4 well he uses it at the end of the video

@picklehanma8029

3 жыл бұрын

As soon and red said that i read your comment and i was like *WOOOAAAHHH* thats was cool

Also, just to add that Dionysus, god of wine, madness and parties still has a more loving and functional marriage than Zeus. 😌

@flamebunny6511

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t anyone though 😂

@SorowFame

3 жыл бұрын

@@flamebunny6511 it’s not exactly a very high bar to pass.

@flamebunny6511

3 жыл бұрын

@@SorowFame nope it isn’t 😂

@ghost_fueled_scarecrow

3 жыл бұрын

Wait who did he marry?

@Boss_Isaac

3 жыл бұрын

@@ghost_fueled_scarecrow Dionysos took as his wife the Cretan princess Ariadne, a daughter of Minos, son of Zeus, and his wife Pasiphaë.

01:21 It's so funny to imagine Dionysus and Athena bonding over the fact that both of them were born from one of Zeus body parts

@maxthepaladin2147

4 ай бұрын

If we take into account that "'leg wound' is an euphemism" theory, then they both were even born from one of two of Zeus' "heads" xD

One of my favorite Dionysus quotes is from PJO, when he tries to pour himself a glass of wine but it turns into water mid-pour, as an effect of his exile from Olympus to CHB. He says “y’know, the Christians have a guy that can do this in reverse. Now THATS A god!”

@keolas6916

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's just the movie, but still a great line.

@Feu_Ghost

Жыл бұрын

My headcanon : That was his son

@SCP_Wandsman13_13

11 ай бұрын

We do not talk about those movies

@timothywilcox1539

6 ай бұрын

@@keolas6916 The one good thing to come from those movies.

@DrZuluGaming

Ай бұрын

When your character is played by Stanley Tucci, you know that he's gonna be that good part of an otherwise bad movie.

I like to think Dionysus is just as angry and powerful as he always has been, but only when he's sober.

@seludovici

3 жыл бұрын

Like the Hulk.

@Breidablik06

3 жыл бұрын

Or he is far superior in strength compared to all the other gods when sober

@jacobturnage

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@nicodemusedwards6931

2 жыл бұрын

That’s why they have to keep him drunk. Otherwise he’d overthrow Zeus.

@lemurpie9381

2 жыл бұрын

@@Breidablik06 since his an og god, he might just be

Hera: "You, sir, are a drunkard." Dionysus: "And you, Hera, are unhappily married. But in the morning I'll be sober!"

@eugenio5774

3 жыл бұрын

I hate you for planting an image of wiston churchill as a bacchae. I hate you.

@kieranh2005

3 жыл бұрын

I know you're imagining him naked in one of those marble frescoes... I'll go get the brain bleach. And the shot glasses

@Kelaiah01

3 жыл бұрын

@@eugenio5774 Haha, sorry. XD

@Kelaiah01

3 жыл бұрын

@@kieranh2005 Shot glasses. How appropriate since this is a vid about Dionysus. ;D

@cheezemonkeyeater

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! No. Dionysus is never sober.

I feel like this should make Zagreus and Dionysus total bros. I feel like that's a promising friendship, the extreme extrovert who loves partying and the quiet kid who doesn't know how to handle gatherings larger than just him and his parents and also their trusty dog Spot.

@foureyesisafish7968

Жыл бұрын

Have you played Hades?

@selenopheria

Жыл бұрын

@@foureyesisafish7968 No, why?

@ForrestFox626

Жыл бұрын

@@selenopheria If you play Hades, you'll see you aren't wrong

@selenopheria

Жыл бұрын

@@ForrestFox626 Really?? Aww man that's so cool.

@abigailw7146

Жыл бұрын

@@selenopheria there’s this thing called trial of the gods where you have to chose between gods and the other one gets mad at you and if you dont choose dio hes like “zag man.. i thought we were buddies :(“

This actually made me appreciate Percy Jackson even MORE. I had always thought of him as Wine first with some cool madness wild cuz parties. It didn't really occur to me that the insanity and vindictive nature came first, then the wine. Which if you read the PJO books, Mr D comes across as a being who's really very spiteful with hints of true and unsettling power, but then it comes back to him not being able to drink anymore. It's the difference between "party god is grumpy cuz no party anymore" and "someone who is very capable of being vindictive, brutal, and unpredictable but is mostly just grumpy these days because of the universe's worst hangover"

@keaganwheeler-mccann8565

8 ай бұрын

It gets even wilder, it is possible that the name Zagreus is a reference to the cult of the Zagros mountains that worshipped the ecstacy of wine.

@urbainleverrier1

7 ай бұрын

​@@keaganwheeler-mccann8565didn't the video mention that which turned out to be a complete coincidence, a nothingburger if you will

@keaganwheeler-mccann8565

7 ай бұрын

@@urbainleverrier1 I don't think there is enough evidence to say one way or another. Zagreus and Dionysus share other details than that. Such as the Zeus and Persephone parentage, and the underworld ties.

@dwell7315

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I know the books have zero problem leaning into that angle (such as his frequent threats to turn people into dolphins, when he drove Atlas' men crazy in Titan's Curse, etc) but I didn't know until this video how much of his history and personality that actually was. Rick Riordan takes a few liberties with the god's powers and divine domains so I think I just chalked it up to that

Ancient Mycenaean texts: “Zagreus, highest among the gods” Supergiant Games: *write that down, write that down!*

@lewisconroy6225

3 жыл бұрын

Doctor Who Writers: *takes all of the hallucinogenic drugs* ZAGREUSSITSINSIDEYOURHEADZAGREUSLIVESAMONGSTTHEDEADZAGREUSSEESYOUINYOURBEDANDEATSYOUWHENYOURESLEEPING

@pzz6367

3 жыл бұрын

no wonder Zagreus and Dionysus get along well in the game. They're pretty much the same person.

@ignitedrowlets5776

3 жыл бұрын

holy crap, that prank that the two of them pulled on Orpheus had some truth to it?!

@ShadyDax

3 жыл бұрын

@@ignitedrowlets5776 that's the reference, yes

@pyrosianheir

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Honestly, I'd play the heck out of that sequel, where instead of working with the Olympians to escape the Underworld, Zagreus is working with a slightly different set (say, remove Zeus and Poseiden; add Persephone and Apollo?) to take Zeus' throne. It'd be so cool.

"Also, Dionysus was a major cutie." Literally every male character you draw is.

@robertminnie782

5 жыл бұрын

Can NOT argue that. XD Well said, Oculus.

@ethanotoroculus1060

5 жыл бұрын

@@robertminnie782 Thank you very much.

@danukil7703

5 жыл бұрын

2:10 for anyone interested

@BAVR_MAPL_

5 жыл бұрын

Yep

@Slow_Internet

4 жыл бұрын

Ethanotor Oculus exactly what I was thinking

One more thing I fucking love how you're against painting a "one true' narrative. Its so refreshing and informative. The idea of a bunch of different narratives syncretizing and evolving and branching is so much more interesting anyways dont you think.

I like how HADES not only jokes about Zagreus and Dionysus being the same person, but also establishes the two as different aspects of the myths. Dionysus is just the god of wine but Zagreus is the one who becomes the god of rebirth

I’m feeling devious, You’re looking glamorous, Let’s get mischievous, And polyamorous. Wine and women and wonderful vices, Welcome to the cult of Dionysus

@crest2x4

4 жыл бұрын

Just got into that song. Nice choice.

@doodleghost6225

4 жыл бұрын

I LOVE YOU

@alienz8641

4 жыл бұрын

Damn! Color me impressed!

@callmemarie9364

4 жыл бұрын

I love this song

@wolfiexox7156

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping Red would do this songs for the end card thingy. (You know how she does really good covers at the ends of her videos.)

"God of Wine" seems more like an honorary title so that Zeus doesn't have to admit Dionysus is essentially the ultimate town drunk who won't leave.

@leonr8255

6 жыл бұрын

I personally call him the God of the Vine.

@dvklaveren

5 жыл бұрын

Or maybe the request to be called "God of Madness and Evisceration" didn't go over so well. Wait, does this make Dionysus the murder hobo god...?

@auburnkeyblade2491

5 жыл бұрын

Just Some Guy with a Mustache Holy crap it's you again!

@DimitrisGenn

5 жыл бұрын

Just Some Guy with a Mustache I swear, you always have the best comments

@NimhLabs

5 жыл бұрын

+Alderick van Klaveren: I accept Dionysus as the God of Murder Hobos as the most canon of canon here and on ward.

I like to think that if Dionysus' title of God of Madness was more renowned than God of Wine, he might have taken up that scary villain image that Hades was popular for. I mean when you think about him in the Bacchae, he desires his place of worship, makes certain people insane, and has them gruesomely tear his offender apart. And his art of making wine could have also been adapted as the art of chemistry in the area of hallucinogenic drugs. And he did not originally have a place in the Pantheon. He could have been Disney's Hercules' villain rather than Hades.

@tylermcneeley3136

Жыл бұрын

Or Hera, who was the actual villain of Hercules' life

@daviddaugherty2816

11 ай бұрын

​@@tylermcneeley3136 That would be great, but then parents would have to explain to their kids why Zeus is Hercules's dad, but Hera isn't his mom.

@berengustav7714

10 ай бұрын

Besides these two,Poseidon is Zeus's rival,and connected to the underworld,The sea is f*cking scary so he would be a villian.

@berengustav7714

8 ай бұрын

Azula from Avatar:The Last Airbender:"The tides have already made up thier mind about ending you,while I'm still mulling it over."

As someone who has Dionysus as a profile picture, I am a large fan of the bisexual grape man. Also, good for Dionysus taking out unsavory sailors.

@Ardorstorm

Жыл бұрын

Same I love him, also I have your pfp in my photo library already and it's amazing

@Random_daughter_of_Poseidon

5 ай бұрын

That is QUITE the sultry Dionysus you have there!

@icneo9738

3 ай бұрын

How far thoust fallen

I love how someone said they like to think Dionysus was raised by a big group of gods. I can just imagine Hades being like "But he's so cute and funny! Can't we keep him for another century?" and Persephone just sighs like "No, Hades. I know he's adorable, but Hera is literally fighting Cerberus as we speak-"

@mohammedyousef4005

3 жыл бұрын

I think I'm gonna die from cuteness

@Sarah12471

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that makes a lot more since than just one deity raising him, especially since hera was on his tail

@brandonporter8509

3 жыл бұрын

Hades: but he and Zagreus are getting along so well! Look I even got them matching outfits!

@mohammedyousef4005

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonporter8509 persephone:dear he's going to be in danger if he stays here

@zanderblankenship3849

2 жыл бұрын

Hermes: Uh, Hera just beat up your dog and is coming for you right now, so, yoink.

I kinda like the idea that Dionysus is still a god of death, madness, going to overthrow Zeus, all that stuff, BUT, he's drunk/hungover all the time and all the other Gods/Goddesses conspire to keep him that way because they're terrified of what he might be capable of if he ever sobered up.

@mandykalblinger5260

4 жыл бұрын

Nicola Heekin lol

@stargazer378

4 жыл бұрын

that is now my personal head cannon, thank you for the hilarious image of Athena intentionally getting drunk just so Dionysus stays drunk XD

@Janoha17

4 жыл бұрын

So both Sanguine and Sheogorath can be seen as being based on him.

@loganiushere

4 жыл бұрын

I just created a story in my head based on this idea.

@osman-hj1pg

4 жыл бұрын

Thats me

Things I learned from this video 1. Zagreus in the game Hades is actually based of something and wasnt made up for the game. 2. Dionysus' portrayal in PJO is hilarious. It makes sense hes a grumpy old man given that in the series, the gods appearance represents their mental state, but still.

Other Olympians: *having a serious discussion about Olympian stuff* Dionysus: *stumbling in drunk and high as hell, while also recovering from a hangover the night before*

"Alexander The Pretty Alright", that has to be the best comparable name ever.

@ghostcraft9343

4 жыл бұрын

If you think that is good watch blue’s video on him

@Cati_Offical

4 жыл бұрын

I like to watch it as well

@ghostcraft9343

4 жыл бұрын

Cattery no last name given it’s great I don’t believe he ever reuses a name

@enchantedporkloin2658

3 жыл бұрын

I know I laughed my ass off, I do ever time hear it,😂😂 also love her choice of music

@Phoenix-dp5cc

3 жыл бұрын

It is Alexander the great not the pretty alright in history

So Dionysus is like snails or lobster: mostly for the poor people until someone rich and powerful noticed and wanted in

@deppresedonion5146

3 жыл бұрын

Nice analogy

@dreadcthulhu5

3 жыл бұрын

Rich people; ruining everything for everyone since forever.

@julianbello8376

3 жыл бұрын

Or black people music

@ashadeofblue6815

3 жыл бұрын

@@julianbello8376 except those time they also made it a privilege

@dossiebigham6916

3 жыл бұрын

ye

Quick note: I'm sure you've heard the phrase "dead drunk." That's the cthonic connection. Blackouts are super scary. And since death=scary, that would be the reason that Dionysus/Zagreus wasn't really so much worshiped as dreaded in early times, so you just didn't talk about it. Or write it down. Still, there's the whole tune in/turn on/drop out thing going on throughout this era, and a bunch of people ignoring social norms and getting together to get drunk and talk about stuff during mystery rites, so I can kind of see "dude, what if Dionysus is actually this, like, really cool guy who gets drunk and parties instead of this super scary god of life, sacrifice and rebirth stuff!" Of course, since the kids are continuing to shake up the status quo, every priest and his brother attempts to quell the cult, but the party doesn't stop, and here we are with Dionysus today.

I really like the Bacchae Dionysus for some reason. He’s chaotic, powerful, and has horns, but also is young. I also like the madness stuff.

@Grim_Ghost589

11 ай бұрын

Honestly, yeah. I think I like him for the same reasons I like Hades & Persephone. They’re cool. They’re scary, sure, but they have functional relationships & some-what likable traits about them. That definitely sets them apart from some of they’re other Pantheon members.

@thierryeubanks3586

6 ай бұрын

Yes! He’s my fav!

I like to think that Dionysus was raised by all those gods/titans/mortals you mentioned, and they had to keep passing him around because Hera was constantly going door to door looking for him. I picture it like a screwball comedy where he's always just barely ahead of her.

@garretthochmuth4522

4 жыл бұрын

as of oct 14th 2019, today...that is my new Greek comedy

@dontburstmybubble686

4 жыл бұрын

BigBadSeed I love the headcanon thanks

@kottonkandy0962

4 жыл бұрын

That’s similar to what I headcanon where the gods pass him along for the week. The fact that Hera would’ve looking for him just makes this even better

@booty_hunter4207

4 жыл бұрын

He always gets out of the house _just_ as she gets there

@maddiesenpainotice9991

4 жыл бұрын

Sitcom title:hide the baby

Headcanon: Mycenaean Dionysus dies, becomes Orphic Dionysus. Orphic Dionysus dies, becomes Hellenistic Dionysus. Fits with his whole death/rebirth thang.

@asonounds1862

3 жыл бұрын

i like that

@Nobody-707

3 жыл бұрын

Another headcanon: Mycenaean Dionysus dies, reborns as Orphic Dionysus and calms down into Hellenistic Dionysus. Fits the whole death/rebirth as well as explaining diluted wine

@spacebunny9116

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nobody-707 makes sense

@redqueen772

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nobody-707 More head cannon Mycenaean Dionysus dies becomes Orphic Dionysus he dies and becomes Bacchus Dionysus who calms down to Hellenistic Dionysus for reasons above and a bit more specific

@zagreustheannoying3075

3 жыл бұрын

The Hellenistic Dionysus drank too much and forgot he was connected with madness and rebirth

Dionysus is the Greek ‘Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass’ trope which I think is very neat

Dionysus often went far afield, or as it is also referred to, he had a tendency to Zigreus when he should Zagreus.

@TimeskipCronos

Жыл бұрын

Thisisstupidlyfunnyandmakesmewanttostabyou

@JosRocks410

3 ай бұрын

lmao

"Do you like men or woman?" Athena: "I like war!" "Ya but what turns you on?" Athena: "Battle!" "Right but what does it take to get under your toga?" Athena: "Victory..."

@marcospatricio8283

3 жыл бұрын

So... if i pull an Alexander the pretty alright on her and dedicate my victories to Athena, it's romantic in her weird way, or creepy? Or it depends on how i do it?

@d_valroth

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcospatricio8283 Maybe she's just hinting she's got eyes for Nike...

@Rabijeel

3 жыл бұрын

Am I wrong or does this sound like Ares instead of Athena...? I mean, wasn't she allocated with "Strategy" and a be Protecting God alongside the "Hunting down" aspect...???

@d_valroth

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rabijeel Artemis is the hunter, Athena is battle tactics and arts and crafts. She liked a good fight, but from a more cerebral angle, like watching a plan come together rather than getting down on the ground and hacking up the enemy which was Ares' jam.

@f.w.3823

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what Artemis would think about this line of questioning. Or Hestia...

Hellenized Dionysus: Adorable babbu; must protect. Desire to cuddle. Orphic Dionysus: Hot damn, take me now. 10/10 would let do horrible things to me

@dcelement3959

4 жыл бұрын

Hellfire Studios - Demonwolf37 first yes second n o

@fancy4663

4 жыл бұрын

First yes second Y e s

@danukil7703

4 жыл бұрын

6:19

@connorcore7008

4 жыл бұрын

Hot damn indeed

@birdlisa58

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Agreeeeeeeeeeed

Poesidon became a great example of "boss when you have to fight them" and "boss when they become playable"

I find it strangely tempting to re-interpret Dionysus as a lovecraftian being. "Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom."

@fangirl38

Ай бұрын

Honestly, I would read it- 🙏

@Green24152

Ай бұрын

i mean the guy's already got cthonic (underworld) connections isn't cthon a super important place in the lovecraft mythos?

Dionysus born from Zeus leg Athena: Welcome to the club baby bro

@StergiosMekras

3 жыл бұрын

"leg"

@sarahstevens4931

3 жыл бұрын

I imagined she’s his designated driver when he goes out partying

@EvilRaccoonDM

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahstevens4931 cause she doesnt get drunk as a god of wisdom

@Thorne-In-Your-Side

3 жыл бұрын

Hm? I was always taught Athena was born from Zeus' head, being a literal "brain-child."

@averysemidecent2870

3 жыл бұрын

i HiD hIm In mY lEg- Zeus, king of the gods

This makes me recall this one moment in the Percy Jackson books where Percy says something really antagonistic to Dionysus and the god turns around, there’s purple fire in his eyes and Percy sees visions that make him suddenly remember that Dionysus’ trait as a god of madness is a lot scarier than the trait of grumpy alcoholic that Percy has been envisioning him as for three books.

@panicontheargo7034

4 жыл бұрын

Mr. D is a pretty scary god. Hell, he had a lot of his “insanity powers” before he became a god! People underestimate him a lot.

@isabellehuber2595

4 жыл бұрын

Quinn Sinclair lmao yes! I remover that

@MiguelSanchezDelVillar

4 жыл бұрын

I love Mr. D, he is the best olympian in the novels

@idongesitusen5764

4 жыл бұрын

Quinn Sinclair yep, which is why I don't drink!:)

@TheYipee14

4 жыл бұрын

That was the best Dionysus moment EVER

The fact Dionysus had a femboy phase is probably my absolute favorite detail in all the greek mythology

@andrewollmann304

6 ай бұрын

Oh, Dionysus had no problem being androgynous. In The Bacchae, Pentheus explicitly mentions the god’s long blond hair that flows down to his shoulders and comments that his figure is “not like that of a wrestler) (this is when Pentheus has taken Dionysus, whom he assumes is just the mortal leader of the Bacchae, prisoner).

Can’t believe Dionysus was a Lovecraftian deity this whole time

"Orphic Dionysus is the son of Persephone and Zeus" Throws up in mouth.

@garretthochmuth4522

4 жыл бұрын

same

@jaded_mus3

4 жыл бұрын

Heh heh... Zeus f’ed his daughter...

@pastorTracy911

4 жыл бұрын

Baby._.Sister._\ Cali *vomits*

@nyxshadowhawk

4 жыл бұрын

I mean... Hades is her uncle.

@taralucent1219

4 жыл бұрын

@@nyxshadowhawk I'm kinda use to the whole incest thing in mythology. It's just that a relationship between a parent and a direct child is still pretty hard to stomach.

Nobody is goona talk about how DIONYSUS IS A FAITHFUL HUSBAND?? TO ARIADNE?? AFTER UPSETTING HER?? THAT ALL OF THE OFFSPRING HE HAS MAJORITY CAME FROM HER??

@ives6622

4 жыл бұрын

*majority

@ives6622

4 жыл бұрын

Also he basically kidnapped her from Theseus didn't he

@servantprincess3079

4 жыл бұрын

@@ives6622 Well Theseus basically dumped her and left her behind on an island. I believe that's when Dio meets her; he hears her crying and asks why she's all alone

@kiryulover317

4 жыл бұрын

@@servantprincess3079 Theseus was told to do that, though! By Athena! Because they stayed the night on that island, and it belonged to Dionysus.

@ives6622

4 жыл бұрын

@@servantprincess3079 While Theseus and Ariadne was sleeping Dionysus whispered in Theseus's ears and said to leave the island now without Ariadne. So Theseus left when she was still sleeping. When Ariadne woke up Dionysus was all like "oh no your boyfriend left you what a douche wanna marry me instead". Not trying to start an argument here but that's just what I read.

I love that when she brings up Alexander the Great, she says “Alexander the pretty alright.” I just love her spirit. 😂

Persephone: (Has a son with her dad) This feels wrong for some reason. Also Persephone: (Has a son with her uncle) Ooh, that's better.

@SCP_Wandsman13_13

2 ай бұрын

She said better, not good

"Turns men into Dolphins" You know.... after hearing how bad dolphins can be, I'm not surprised the Greeks thought this.

@gaelstrarai

Жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment!

@IDontLikePplPlayinOnMyPhone

Жыл бұрын

Dolphins are some pretty, umm, “handsy” (“flippersy”?)characters from what I’ve heard!

@greenbeets0

Жыл бұрын

plus dolphin brains are terrifyingly close to human ones

@watercraver

Жыл бұрын

I hate dolphins.

@ethanotoroculus1060

Жыл бұрын

It's as I've always said; Cetaceans are probably among the only animals on earth able to both fully comprehend what evil is and willingly choose to act on it anyways.

He’s feeling devious he’s looking glamorous

@alexandriaisokay964

3 жыл бұрын

Let's get mischievous, and polyamorous...

@luannenoir4453

3 жыл бұрын

Wine, guys, women, and wonderful vice (I know the line is, Wine and woman and wonderful vices, but I say that version because I am Bisexual, hope that's ok)

@dcasey714

3 жыл бұрын

@@luannenoir4453 hey, the lyric fits and I'm sure Dionysus would be proud

@lumilumi4030

3 жыл бұрын

Welcom to the cult of Dionysus

@OpussumEatsDirt

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

4 years later and still hoping we get that Bacchae video. As a huge Dionysus fan and theatre major, the Bacchae needs more coverage!! No rush tho, it wouldn’t matter if it doesn’t have your passion in it

Somewhat terrified at the thought of a "progression" of the Greek Mythology where Zeus IS overthrown by his children, like a power play team up by Dionysus and Athena, and the new King of the Gods is lord of Madness, Death and just kick ass booze. Like, Greece would have devolved into a drunk orgy.

SCP Foundation: “Oh man there’s no canon it’s sooo cool and unique!” Greek Theologians: “Hold my wine.”

@lordoftheducks332

4 жыл бұрын

Merc at Arms this is a very underrated comment

@karaqakkzl

4 жыл бұрын

Tyrion: Now this is a god of Tits and Wine

@Silverwind87

3 жыл бұрын

A _lot_ of the SCP Foundation was inspired by mythology and Lovecraftian fiction.

@samuelarnold9653

3 жыл бұрын

(Claping)

@CJCroen1393

3 жыл бұрын

Vocaloid: We did that too, btw.

I would love to see a modern take on Dionysus that leans more into him being a terrifying god of madness and insanity.

@dreadcthulhu5

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Love the name btw.

@jameseltonjones4499

3 жыл бұрын

I think you mean, "I would love to see Jim Morrison"

@keiwiiisinpain

3 жыл бұрын

me too oh my hdi

@chocomuffin7433

3 жыл бұрын

James Elton Jones huh?

@DarkAngelEU

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameseltonjones4499 Hit the nail on the fucking head!

Honestly, for as long as I knew about Dionysus, I never thought of him as just "the wine dude". I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I was introduced to Dionysus through Percy Jackson, which went out of its way to provide a more faithful portrayal of the gods, and as a result, included a lot of the lesser known elements of Dionysus' mythology, including the madness and the dolphins. That said, when Dionysus appears in Heroes of Olympus in his Roman form of Bacchus, he's much more the chill, hippie, party dude described here... which makes sense given the timeline of Greece to Rome.

Hades's exploding from baby cuteness face never fails to make my day

“Woah, Dionysus, the ‘70’s called, they want to know if they can borrow some of your stash.” I imagine you might want to specify which ‘70’s you’re referring to, Dionysus has probably experienced hundreds of 7th decades at this point.

@alanepithet2931

4 жыл бұрын

He probably doesn't remember more than one or two of them, though.

@derronmendel9650

4 жыл бұрын

Just 70 AD obviously

@demi-femme4821

4 жыл бұрын

Plot twist: every '70's secretly had a whole drug thing going on.

@rossmartinez7377

4 жыл бұрын

Dude Jim Morrison was Dionysus 🤙

@LordAmerican

4 жыл бұрын

8th decades.

From terrifying monster to cute party guy... Dionysus was just the vampire of ancient times

@CJCroen1393

3 жыл бұрын

Holy crap it all makes sense now...

You know, the way hades looks at baby zagreus is just adorable.

So, uh, fun fact. In Ancient Greece, phallic wounds were tactfully referred to as “leg wounds” in public. So there is a non-zero chance that Zeus put fetus Dionysus there instead.

@ThinWhiteAxe

6 ай бұрын

third leg wounds... I see. heh.

@eric2500

6 ай бұрын

Okay sure...b/c fertility and life juice.

@JosRocks410

3 ай бұрын

that makes more sese than a leg tbh

The entire thing about the wine cult likely being as old as wine itself is interesting, but I love how this could be interpreted as the MINUTE that wine is revealed to get people CRAZY drunk they decided "hey, we could make a religion out of this!" And thus Dionysus' cult was born

@memersnas8684

3 жыл бұрын

Bill Wurtz reference?

@eep_eep

2 жыл бұрын

@@memersnas8684 the world is a bill wurtz reference, if you think about it

@jpan7211

2 жыл бұрын

the first ever use of this phrase

@supremecalamitas342

2 жыл бұрын

@@eep_eep The universe is a bill wurtz reference, my friend.

@drendraleigh4722

2 жыл бұрын

When a group of human got intoxicated for the first time, it's probably not hard for them to make something out of a trippy experience?

Soooo basically, he's actually not so much a god of drunkenness, and more a god of insanity, connected to wine through... well, the effects of being drunk or high. About right?

@thething2723

4 жыл бұрын

So he's cocaine

@mendaxMultorum

4 жыл бұрын

i mean what is being drunk or high but controlled insanity?

@Jake007123

4 жыл бұрын

@@mendaxMultorum Controlled? Ever heard of addiction?

@mendaxMultorum

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jake007123 i mean feasibly if you had enough resolve you could stop whenever you wanted, it just takes initiating the quitting process

@devanskrobarcek2013

4 жыл бұрын

In fact there is a goddess of Drunkeness and is considered dionysus daughter

13:39 Dionysus' thinking: they don't believe I'm a God-?! Time to make some b*tches see sounds and hear colors We love Dionysus

It occurs to me that there's another myth about Dionysus that lends even more Orphic connotations. When Ariadne dies, (and the stories vary as to how she does: in one version she's turned to stone by Perseus via Medusa's severed head and then shattered, in the Odyssey [book 11] it's said Artemis kills her, and there's also a story where she hangs herself, which has some spillover with Arachne and invokes some possible preponderance of weaving figure/goddess = suicide by hanging symbolism in Greek and related mythologies) Dionysus heads down into the Underworld, retrieves both her and Semele and makes them both Goddesses. I think there's even one version where Hades bids Dionysus to give something he truly loves if he really wants them back, and he obliges with a grapevine.

Hermes, raising Dionysus: I'm about to start this kid's whole career.

@michaelmarkcavita7979

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, let the Trickster God raise the Party God...

@gingersummer4005

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmarkcavita7979 a VERY SMART IDEA

@silentspirit8923

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Apollo witnessing that.

@mohammedyousef4005

2 жыл бұрын

@@silentspirit8923 I can *absolutely* see the three of them being best friends

@dabi410

2 жыл бұрын

Hermes: alright, lets go steal a sacred animal

Holy fricking shiet. So Dionysus used to be a full blown lovecraftian god of madness, death, rebirth and intoxication to ascend to a higher state of existence. And eventually became the cute drunkard boy who would occassionally cause mass chaos and insanity. I didn't expect this, wow.

@ilmisteriosofranceseradene7548

6 жыл бұрын

New favourite God spotted.

@pastelhotmess9299

6 жыл бұрын

God of Insanity...I though he was innocent I wasn't expecting him to have so many FORMS!

@haeilsey

6 жыл бұрын

He goes from super death madness nature dad to Sheogorath to a boy who likes grape juice.

@thetzeentchianrepresentati5547

6 жыл бұрын

that pre-Dionysus video sounds amazing...

@Hecatonicosachoron

6 жыл бұрын

The pre-Hellenic view of the underwood was quite different. It was a meadow here the souls of the dead could be care-free or something like that. The asphodel meadow and the Elysian Fields were probably outcrops of this earlier optimistic view of death. Wine libations were also common. In the Odyssey, Odysseus prepares the ritual of talking to the dead by making a libation of wine before filling a hole in the ground with a ram's blood. Libation cups are very common finds from Minoan, and also Mycenaean sites and there are also depictions on frescoes from that period (and even in some Egyptian wall paintings was well).

It's interesting to think Dionysus, in some form, was son of Persephone, since both of them are deities wich control plants.

I love how they drew hades as excited about his kid.

"Why did he transition so late?" Oh honey, it happens to the best of us

@rhys2275

4 жыл бұрын

😔✊

@chada4806

4 жыл бұрын

This is really wholesome. :3

@Sweetumskitty1789

4 жыл бұрын

Macaroni and Cliches He was the god of homosexuality so it does make sense for him.

@spitfire_saint4428

4 жыл бұрын

This made me picture a dude having sex and not being able to cum, then an hour later while he's asleep just blasts off...

@lemonman8654

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sweetumskitty1789 I think he was actually the god of transgender people, correct me if I'm wrong please

"I bet Frigg doesn't need to put up with this.." That, Hera, is one of the perks of being married to an absolute nerd

@MathasiaJ

3 жыл бұрын

Odin is not just a nerd, he's an *emo* nerd

@sjachdecadere8768

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, Odin was just as big a horndog, though he was a BIT more subtle about it...

@connorgolden4

3 жыл бұрын

Actually he did have lots of kids with others.

@arawn1061

3 жыл бұрын

@@connorgolden4 then again Frigg also slept around. Notably with the other two creator gods, Odins brothers Vile and Ve

@nyetloki

3 жыл бұрын

Open marriage vs cheating

Speaking about that Frigg line yes Odin has had many affairs with other women but she seems to treat their marriage as open since Frigg herself is said to have affairs when her husband is away. She never goes after her stepchildren including Thor who is her husband's most famous child, but then again Thor was from a former marriage but the others were from affairs he had after they married. Seriously, I could see Frigg react to Hera's outrage on her husband's bastards as being overboard saying everybody has their needs as long as it's consensual. She even talks about times she's banged including her own brother in laws. Although I do think she would raise an eyebrow about Hera punishing those raped by Zeus, because in contrast the Norse pantheon punished Odin when he resorted to rape to conceive a child that would avenge Baldur. You know as much as Frigg and Hera are supposed to be counterparts they really could be so opposite. The only time she's vengeful is if you messed with her child like Loki did but she also showed a cruel streak by taking it out on his youngest sons, Vali and Narvi.

@nicolasnamed

10 ай бұрын

From what I recall in learning about Old Norse culture (both because I like the period historically and because I'm a Norse pagan) sexual monogamy wasn't really a moral thing for them or seen as this great sin or anything. Like, you wouldn't do it where you'd cause social strife but it wasn't a huge deal either.

You know, despite you talking about the Greek Gods and their heinous acts, you drawing them like that is surprisingly wholesome. Like I can't stop smiling.

It's also worth mentioning that Dionysus spared one of the dudes on the boat because he immediately realized he was a god and was trying to get the other crewmen to set him free.

@emmautterback3927

4 жыл бұрын

But then he saw all of his friends turn into dolphins and he was just left there alone on a boat full of snakes

@adaritter9597

3 жыл бұрын

@@emmautterback3927 Hey I mean he did still kidnap the guy

Learning that Zagreus isn't an OC and the people behind the game Hades did their homework. The whole death and rebirth associated with Zagreus/Orphic Dionysus works so well in a roguelike

@CrownofMischief

2 жыл бұрын

Plus that whole bit in the game where Dionysus and Zagreus play a prank on Orpheus to make him think they split from the same being really ties it all together in a really fun way

@tylercoon1791

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrownofMischief which is funny that ‘Orphic’ Dionysus/Zagreus was a prank played on Orpheus

@scdolence

2 жыл бұрын

I literally came here today for this after finding that part in Hades. Blew my mind. Supergiant DOES their homework well, and is a GREAT developer.

@picgmr1575

2 жыл бұрын

@@scdolence DUDE supergiant is amazing. apparently for hades they had forced vacations to combat crunch culture

@roxxram9151

2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile this episode explains AT LENGTH the context of the joke. Several layers deep, that humor

funny thing i like: in hades there’s a little subplot with orpheus where zagreus keeps telling him more and more outrageous stories to sing about. first one is a prank thought up by Dionysus where zag tells orpheus that he and dionysus are actually related - maybe even the same god entirely! i thought that was funny as hell considering the possible connection between the two irl

Istg explaining greek mythology sometimes feels like a breakdown of the differences in characters across peoples fanfics of them. "In this one hes more emo whereas here hes got no mullet. This one however sucks because it doesn't even feel like the same character, the writer did an awful job encapsulating his essence"

@justafallperson2108

2 жыл бұрын

So. Freaking. True.

Zeus: has affair with woman literally every other god: "oh lord, not again"

@derangedyarn6544

4 жыл бұрын

"Oh us, not again"

@marithepuppetmasterfazbear7838

3 жыл бұрын

Basically Every Olympian sewing Hera plan her next attack: Ah s***, here we go again.

@StergiosMekras

3 жыл бұрын

...not just women.

@J1nx_exe

3 жыл бұрын

@@StergiosMekras not just the women, but the men and the children too!

@Silverwind87

3 жыл бұрын

@@derangedyarn6544 They'd probably say something like "oh Chaos" or "oh Gaia."

9:35 "Hey in order to become an actual cult you need a God to worship" "Screw you we'll use this guy" "Who is that?" "Lol idk some death God or smth"

@kristiankepley5944

2 жыл бұрын

Seems legit

@cybernurgle6413

2 жыл бұрын

They just got so drunk they picked up a madness god along the way and didn't realize it till later

@coltonwilliams4153

Жыл бұрын

@@cybernurgle6413 Wine Cult: Who are you? Mad God: Ah, don’t mind me. I was just passing through and saw you guys partying last night. Thought I’d join. Now… *snaps fingers and makes more wine appear* how about more wine? Wine Cult: You must be our god! WOOHOO!

I know it's very after the fact at this point, but coming into this video after playing Hades and learning about the evolution of Dionysus, I LOVE how Supergiant was able to tie Zagreus and Dionysus together by playing on their confusing origin stories but ALSO by playing on the parallels of wine and blood. And the "Dionysus as a god of death and rebirth" coinciding with Zagreus' being reborn from a pool of blood every time he respawns just evokes the same image of Dionysus waking up in a pool of wine. It's just wonderfully evocative, and everything you go into here with Zagreus as a potential origin point of Dionysus just plays perfectly with the game's portrayal of the divide between the chthonic and Olympian gods. I'm just a huge fan of what you're doing. ^_^

7:05 This really explains the song Hymn to Zagerus that we hear Orpheus sing in the Hades game. The line "Born to Zeus has a serpent" would refer to the fact that Zeus once slept with Persephone as a serpent (resulting in the birth of Orphic Dionysus). Zagerus (the protagonist) is the son of Hades and Persephone. Either way, Hera doesn't approve wich ties in with the lines "In spite of Queen Hera, Zagreus came" "Torn to shreds by the Titans, devoured in pieces, from his heart aflame the seed of Dionysus grew, the God of wine and feast anew" would also tie in nicely with Hera's revenge plot and the heart thing.

OH MY GOD! So the joke in hades where Zagreus decides to play a prank on Orpheus and says “Don’t tell anyone but Dionysus and I are actually the same person.” And Orpheus responds with “of course! You sound so similar!” Is based off the fact that Zagreus IS Dionysus

@Megafreakx3

Жыл бұрын

If you go down the rabbit hole, you will find that a zagreus is a hunter who catches living animals (Artemis makes a comment about him being some kind of hunter). And something else to the Ionian word zagre signifies a "pit for the capture of live animals.". So besides those links, we also have Zagreus with Hades, possibly as Hades' son or as Hades himself."So, in the end, we just have different bits of a lot of different versions but with no clear picture of Zagreus ( and this really doesn't help with what Red covers with Dionysus). And somehow, the studio (I think ) makes some kind of reference in one way or another (like how Poseidon called Zag Little Hades)

@rangerofthewasteschaoticne6888

Жыл бұрын

Also, they have the same voice actor in game! Orpheus too I believe!

@awittypseudonym2520

Жыл бұрын

@@rangerofthewasteschaoticne6888 Zag and Dio don't share the same VA, however Zag is voiced by Daren Korb who is the voice of skelly, the singing voice of Orpheus, composer and main performer of all of Supergiant's games, and apparently the fastest of the dev staff at the game.

@newsystembad

Жыл бұрын

@@awittypseudonym2520 Darren Korb is such a fuckin' badass. (And Ashley Barrett, too, can't forget her.) I've done some critical listening of each of his soundtracks, and it feels like there's ALWAYS something new to find in them.

@user-ju7gf3im7k

Жыл бұрын

Also if I’m not mistaken, Zagreus told Orpheus that one time Titans ripped his heart and from it was born Dionysus. I believe after it Orpheus tell that they are similar, but it turns out that the joke itself is a reference to this

"STOP THAT THIS INSTANT" "SHAN'T" this just looks like the perfect drunk response. Don't know why. It just does.

@maritomoko4915

5 жыл бұрын

This turned out so funny in my head thanks for the chuckle

@rellikai945

5 жыл бұрын

The fact that I'm currently drunk *right* *the fuck* *now* and I found that part to be absolutely HIGH-LARIOUS only backs this theory up.

No need to worry about the song during the end credits, I actually like the chill vibe you created with it, even if it was unintentional.

This makes the Dyonisis and Zagrus tricking Orpheus into thinking that they are both the same person in the Hades video game so much more hilarious 😂

There's a game called Hades where you play as the God Zagreus, and a hilarious nod to the Zag/Diyonsus lack of continuity where you can actually trick the court musician Orpheus into thinking the two gods were one and the same. Lol

@noattendance9801

3 жыл бұрын

Where can you get it? Tell. Me. Now.

@Aurora-313

3 жыл бұрын

@@noattendance9801 Steam. Its about $25 AUS if I recall correctly.

@Sevyvee

3 жыл бұрын

@@noattendance9801 and switch

@khurelbatbayanbat7913

3 жыл бұрын

No Attendance it’s on steam epic and switch

@romanejerome168

3 жыл бұрын

It goes even farther than that, Orpheus ends up creating a song about how Zagreb’s fought the Titans and got ripped apart and from his blood Dionysus was born ~ I think that whole affair is the devs’ way of making the whole confusion about Zagreus and Dio cannon in the game’s universe with the origin being those two playing a prank on Orpheus and he took it seriously.

"Dumb War God- Smart War God" *Athena is just Ares but with braincells change my mind*

@greywalker505

4 жыл бұрын

Funny, considering Athena was born from Zeus’ brain.

@Janoha17

3 жыл бұрын

@@greywalker505 She got all of Zeus' braincells.

@gingersummer4005

3 жыл бұрын

J17 plus her mom’s (who was actually pretty clever)

@andrewwang8021

3 жыл бұрын

Athena is meant to represent the strategic aspects of war, while Ares embodies the madness of it. Extrapolating from that, he would probably represent sadism, violence, and the all-consuming terror that possesses someone in a life-or-death situation. Athena stands in stark contrast to those things, being a deity of the arts and overlaps in some ways with Hephaestus as embodying technology and the sciences.

@greywalker505

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewwang8021 Funny that you mention terror, as two of Ares’ sons were Phobos (god of panic/fear) and Deimos (god of terror/dread).

Another interesting thing about Orphism is that orphism included a belief in reincarnation: if you did certain things and performed certain rights, you could reincarnate into a chosen form and return to the land of the living instead of going to a bleak underworld or being made to reincarnate into a form that was undesired. Dionysus has the epitaph "twice born": he died and came back to life after being ritually shreaded by the titans.

The whole, ‘a society ostracizes a specific religion due to them appealing to other ostracized peoples before fully embracing said religion and causing it to spread like wild fire’ concept draws a weird connection between Christianity in Rome and Dionysus’s Cult in Greece that I didn’t realize until now

I’d like to think that Dionysus was raised from being fostered by Rea, Hermes, AND Persephone + Hades because he’s a good husband. Persephone gets him from Monday-Wednesday, Hermes gets him for the rest of the weekdays and Rea takes him in for the weekend. Having godly connections would be lit as your local illegitimate child.

@rhys2275

4 жыл бұрын

really don’t like being referred to as ‘it’ but ok

@ericzouu

4 жыл бұрын

I think Hermes would raise him because he was raised secretly too.

Can we just take a moment to admire how beautiful and aesthetically pleasing Orphic Dionysus's design is?

@luctlapt6590

4 жыл бұрын

Gamzee Makara. (audible dot)

@Harshworld100

4 жыл бұрын

@@luctlapt6590 A Homestuck reference! I havent seen one these in ages!

@Jobe-13

4 жыл бұрын

PizzaFace12456 Yes. He is.

@masterklaw4527

4 жыл бұрын

I was getting some Dio Brando/ Danny Avidan vibes.

@dragnixstar

4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

Ah yes, the yassification of Dionysus

13:10 There's a similar story about Dionysus bringing his worship (and his army of madwomen from the Aegean islands) to the city of Argos. The local version of the story was that Perseus was king at the time. Perseus said "no thanks". There was a battle, Perseus won, and he killed all the maenads. The spooky bit is that the famous Greek traveller, Pausanias (2nd century AD), said that he visited the actual mass grave of these women--and of Chorea, the top maenad, who was buried separately to honour her high rank. Later, the 5th-century AD poet Nonnus wrote a huge and totally bonkers fanfic about Dionysus. In book 47 he goes into great detail about the battle between Perseus and Dionysus, saying that Hera tricked Perseus into opposing the god. Also, Dionysus has both maenads and satyrs in his army. At one point Perseus deploys his superweapon (the head of Medusa). Luckily Dionysus is immune thanks to a diamond he wears on his face. Unluckily his wife Ariadne--yes, THAT Ariadne--has no such diamond, and is immediately rendered statuesque, if you know what I mean. Dionysus is so enraged by this that he's ready to raze Argos and Mycenae to the ground. But Hermes grabs him by the hair and says, "Look mate, blame Hera for kicking all this off, not Perseus. I know you're pissed about your wife, but how many people get to say they were killed by Perseus himself? Major afterlife street cred. Let's honour her with a statue. Oh hey, we don't need to make one! Convenient!" As Red says in another video: weird chapter. 🤨