Cheers for the kind words buddy!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Credit where it’s due Mel. It’s a fantastic book!!

@HavasiP

3 ай бұрын

Learned so much from Mel's channel. Didn't know he actually released a book too.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

He did indeed!

@hobbyjobbers

3 ай бұрын

You’re a legend, Mel! Even in the States! 🙏🏼

@theminiaturepaintingtutor7885

3 ай бұрын

Yes Mel! Great book. See you at salute?

1:34 "... things you might not get from KZread. Like litteracy." - Hah! Jokes on you. I have subtitles on, because my hearing is bad...!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Ah, but I wrote my own subtitles and deliberately misspelled every word - just to prove my point. 🤣🤣

@kasparbaktat964

3 ай бұрын

​@@thestateofplay2023I am pretty sure, that the auto-generated subtitles surpass you easily on that 😛

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s true. I said “fork out money.” Have a guess what swear word KZread thought I said. 🤣🤣

I have a big collection of White Dwarf magazines and I often take a look back in the past to get inspirations or a tutorial how to paint. I'm old...but happy. Thank you very much for this wonderful video.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Oh man, me too! New doesn’t always mean great. Some old White Dwarf tutorials are some of the best I’ve ever seen.

Retired software guy here: Zero is the first number, not one. 🤣 This is a great video and I was really happy to watch it. I love good books!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I hear ya! I’ve been a programmer myself since 1992. But there’s no section 0 in a library or bookshop for mere mortal none programmers . 🤣🤣 🤣They should do it and put all the programming books in section 0!

Books! Who'd have thought you could use these ancient things to gain knowledge. And you don't have to keep rewinding to get that bit you miss. The page stays open until you are ready to turn it. Love your channel and your delivery, it's a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Ancient things! 🤣🤣 pretty much describes me too!

Books are a great source of instructions and inspiration. I have Mel’s book as well as the ones by Michael Mertens aka TWS. Books also require your full attention which is another advantage with everybodies digitally induced attentionspan of a goldfish.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Attention span of a goldfish ….sorry, what were you saying again. 🤣 but you’re absolutely correct on all counts.

I would add Colour and Light by James Gurney and Figopedia by Jeremie Bonamant Teboul

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

You know I wanted to add figopedia but it seems out of print and I couldn’t find one anywhere. I’ll check out the other one!! Cheers!

Like literacy..... the deadpan delivery slays

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

On KZread, perhaps. When my wife asks me what she said an hour ago - and I deadpan the wrong answer. I get slayed.

A big thank you for this video. I had been struggling for sometime to find information on certain painting subjects & I kept falling down the KZread rabbit hole myself looking for answers. I picked up one of the books on this list & another is on my birthday list. These niche books can be hard to find & the reviews even harder to find. This means you have to gamble your money that the book contains what you are looking for & they are not cheap nor always available in your average local book shop. I would love a volume two recommendation video for further painting/modelling books.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Hi Helen, sadly there aren’t enough quality books left to review. I think I pretty much own them all. 🤣🤣

I think main issue with these kind of books is that they are not ringbound (not sure if that's the correct term). This way they would be easier to keep open on relevant information.

@Kallistosprom

2 ай бұрын

I use a music stand which means I can have it next to me rather than on the table and it has hooks to stop the pages going back.

Showing my complete lack of age, I had no idea there was ever enough of a market for mini books. I like it!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I always find it much easier to post-it note a page than pause and skip a video. That’s if I even remember which video I saw with the tip I wanted to try. 🤣 Memory goes as you age….what was I saying?

Great work, you’re my favorite hobby KZreadr. Your presentation and editing skill has really improved too

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, much more comfortable on this side of the camera now. Took a a while to move from director to “presenter”. 🤣🤣

Cheers & thanks for this!

@thestateofplay2023

9 күн бұрын

You’re welcome

If you're interested in display painting I highly recommend James Gurney's Color and Light. Awesome resource to painting atmosphere.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I’m interested in all forms, whether I do it or not. 👍🏼

@redrooster7371

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 Then you should definately check it out. I'd say it's a standard in artbooks. You see it in nearly every book shelf behind all the KZread artists. And fantastic artwork.

The AK series is aimed at scale modellers (which has always been big on realistic basing and weathering vehicles). From the video, they look to be a logical extension to the late Francois Verlinden's books (yes, I am dating myself) that were the first real 'how to' for well composed basing. Scale modelling is so much larger than mini painting - particularly in the gigantic US market - and that has driven most of the publishing. But really, miniature wargaming is just scale modelling at a different scale (most tanks are at 1:35, planes are at 1:72 or 1:48 and 28mm Warhammer is about 1:56). Definitely have been referring back to my old copies of scale model magazine for some weathering techniques and this video has definitely made the "maybe I should look for a book or two for mini painting reference" easier.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yeah Kickstarter had a minipedia for gamers book a while back. I opted not to get it because many techniques are the same, just on a smaller scale, as you say. A technique is a technique so to speak. I dunno, may I overdo things. I can’t help wanting my stuff to look like little miniature worlds.

@darthkek1953

3 ай бұрын

"(yes, I am dating myself)" Not uncommon in this hobby.

That minipedia book collection is an amazing source for beginner information. Gave me the confidence to start mini painting

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s a really good reference. A proper confidence builder.👍🏼

The price comparison to unpainted minis hits hard. I have in the same day bemoaned spending $15 on paint, and then dropped $100+ on impulse model ideas.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 weird how we do that, isn’t it. “I better make my own airbrush cleaner and save £3. Oh, look, new Intercessors for £150!”.

Scale75, AK Interactive, Ammo Mig, Vallejo, and Green Stuff World are 5 different Spanish companies which all make paints for scale modelling. They make and sell many more things, but they’re mostly known for acrylic paints in miniature wargaming. Recently, AK and Ammo Mig are also known for enamels and oils, thanks to The Grimdark Compendium and Dark Ages Workshop. Ammo Mig used to be part of or associated with AK, though, I don’t know the story. I like both companies’ products and have many paints from both (acrylics and abt502 oils from AK, enamels and pigments from Ammo).

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Brilliant info thanks!!

I love books, and am always looking for more. Thanks for this!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome!

Excellent resource! Thank you for showing all the different series.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

No problem!

Lot of excellent suggestions here, thank you!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. I love your 007 books too. Although I bet you hear that joke a lot. Sorry. 🤣😜

Thanks for the great recommendations!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

No problem!

Thank you, i will pick up some of those books. Some I already own and totally agree!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Phew! Glad you agree. Thought I was the only one.

Great video, this could be my favorite one so far! Im definitely going to order myself some of these books! I, like you, have really cut down on watching a lot of KZread painting videos, so some good painting books will get me excited again to improve my model painting skills. Thanks again!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Glad I could help. Yeah, books let you go at your own pace without pausing and skipping ads! 🤣

Thx for the book tips!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

This is a great video mate, really useful and I might buy some of these books. Thanks for making this

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome!

Thank you thank you thank you. I'm new to the hobby and have been searching for just this. Btw there was a Kickstarter last year that is for 3 books with painting tips and processes from top painters. I subscribed of course.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Cool thanks for that info. I’ll check it out!

As someone who really enjoys the tactile touch of paper, I really appreciate this video and have a good number of these books. I shall grab the rest. I also really enjoy your sense of humor. Keep up the good work, you have a new subscriber.

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

Thanks George! Glad you got the sense of humour.

6:43 i bet the person that numbered these has experience with arrays

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 Far too much I think. No experience numbering books however.

Well I am now the happy owner of Minipedia and Vol 0 & 3 of Encyclopedia of Figures. Thank you for the great suggestions!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Oh cool! I hope they serve you well!

good video, makes me feel old considering my first instinct in taking up this hobby was trying to find a good how to paint book and there werent any in my local hobby, book. arts. used books and library...so I had to learn from KZread. I may pick up some of these now that I know they are out there.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 We are old in that case. It is hard to find these books used as most people never give them away.

Great video. I had heard of some of these, but many others were new to me. Thanks for the recommendations!

@thestateofplay2023

19 күн бұрын

You’re very welcome! Hope they help

Ha, right there with you mate… I still have my hand written note book from 1995 of tips and tricks that I collected after pouring through my mates 7 year collection of White Dwarf magazines for the 1 or 2 pages of helpful advice from the pros hidden somewhere in each edition. Thanks for a great vid and keep up the great work (including the glib one liners…not to bad for a pommie) 👍👍from Stray-ya

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 Us pommies are good for….nah, forget it - we’re not. I still often go back through my old WD. Some of those techniques still work. Not that I’d paint my bases goblin green of course!

A few other books that I've found useful over the years: James Gurney's Color & Light and Imaginative Realism - Gurney wrote the Dinotopia books and these discuss many of the techniques he used. Really good on color, including light temperatures and reflective lighting. Kirill Kanaev's Figure Painting Techniques F.A.Q - Detailed sections on many of his painting techniques paired with excellent photography. A bit expensive, but also huge. Sheperd Paine's How to Build Dioramas - Brilliant book on the details of diorama work. Quite old at this point, but still very valuable for me. Bill Horan's Military Modelling Masterclass - Better on the conversion/sculpting side than the painting side, mostly because Horan used enamels almost exclusively. Still brilliant work, especially on diorama composition and conversion. And for a deep-in-the-weeds discussion of pigment and color theory: Michael Wilcox's Blue and Yellow Don't Make Green

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Great references there!! Amazing

I just ordered AK's book on color transitions, as I've also noticed that just adding black or white to a color doesn't always do what I'd like, so it looks like it will be super helpful! I might also have to check out some of Minipedia. Thanks for the recommendations!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Hey not a problem. I just worried that many of my links only had a few books in stock. Glad you grabbed a copy. It really is a handy book to have on hand.

Goodness this was fantastic

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Thanks. And for being super polite. My kids read this. 🤣😜

Love your channel.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Scott! Love ya too!

Ive loved books as painting ressources ever since I bought the official eavy metal paint guide as a teen. Shit, I must still have that somewhere!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Dig it out. It’s vintage now!

@gingerwhale871

3 ай бұрын

Hehe will do@@thestateofplay2023

Nice video! I also found Working with colors a really good reference for color theory. I like a more philosophical and theoretical take on paint/design/miniatures/angst ;) I love your mature and honest take on the hobby, dry humor and you go more in the cracks of the questions so to speak. With that I mean, I may search KZread for the answer on something and often have more questions after I've watched the video but with you it's more "Ahh! As I suspected! Good to have another guy having the same problem and not just saying 'Thin your paints'."

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Not surprised you say this. It’s why I started my channel. If no one else was going to answer my questions - I’d bloody well answer them myself! 🤣

Thanks

this was fantastic, thank you. i have added most of the books you suggested to my Wishlist. *Clicks subscribe* I look for word to browsing your website and YT Channel!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Sadly, it looks like "How to Work with Colors and Transitions" is out of stock literally everywhere (even eBay). Here's hoping that there's another printing as I'd gladly pick up a copy. Many thanks for this video, I've ordered a couple of books off the list already.

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

Shame as that’s a great book. You might be able to grab a digital copy?

@TapCat

2 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 They do offer digital copies but they can only be read through AK's app and the reviews on the Apple store are dominated by people saying that they can't open their purchases after the most recent update. I think I'll wait for a bit in hopes that they do another physical printing. On a more positive note, I was able to find copies of both Color Harmony and the Minipedia at very reasonable prices on eBay and am looking forward to reading them.

Another great video, thank you!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Cheers!

This comes at a perfect time. I've become frustrated with getting my information from youtube videos, that let's be honest, are more often than not just glorified entertainment pieces you watch in your sofa rather than lessons that teach. I had the chance to flip through the Angel Giraldez book and had the impression it was just a step by step guide with nothing really to teach.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

In that case i’d recommended The Art of Tommie Soule for you.

I loved this video!

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

Cheers mate. Much appreciated!!

Thanks for a great video. I really enjoyed the How to work with colors book as well. I would recommend the two general FAQ books from AK as well and I will check out the diorama book.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

The la for that recommendation. I’ll check those out!

Oh the irony, a You Tube video on why books are better than You Tube videos. I did read a book once and enjoyed it but couldn't find the like button!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I tell it like it is! 🤣 That’s what Twatter is for. Read a book then broadcast it to the world.

OMG these are some of the best and funniest videos in the hobby!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

And I was aiming for “serious yet lighthearted”. 🤣🤣

haha so true about Angel Giraldez's books. I felt exactly the same

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I love his work but the book felt like secrets were kept secret so Vallejo could make money out of him. Shame really.

I think I found my new favorite painting channel !

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

Oh thanks for that!! 😳

Learning about painting NMM/ non-metallic metal is learning how to do volumetric highlight’s which applies to everything. This opens up a whole world of possibilities.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I know how to do NMM. I don’t because I can’t spend that time on a model anymore. Two kids, job, house, family, friends and KZread - it’s quicker to paint TNM. Then I can play a game. 👍🏼

I have the 3 Foundry painting books from Kevin Dallimore. Love his paintingstyle. Awesome vid with great humour as always. 😅

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Thanks I’ll check those out. Love me some book collecting!

I do enjoy reading and looking at physical books much more than ebooks but didn't realise that this type of book was available. As I am older even than you, I too have had a proper education, including literacy! Unlike you, however, as a Computer Science major, I am perfectly happy with counting from zero 😂. I will take time to look round the book sellers at Salute this year. Thanks for the tips 👍

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 Nice! And thank you. I hope you find a good book - properly numbered of course.

lol love it.. I have had so many students that think so much is just on computer and phone screens.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Oh man, tell me about it. “hey Will, where did you learn that?” “I read it,” I say. “Send me the link”, comes the reply. “There’s no link, it’s in a book. You want the link to the book?”. ….silence.

I used to get the books by Verlinden, Superdioramas was incredible. P.s. thank you for the tip with nail art brushes, they worked really well.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Cheers for those! Yeah nail art brushes are great - provided they aren’t pink with glitter sparkles. 🤣🤣

Really cool.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Cheers!!

Glad I am not the only one that prefers painting books than videos. I find the issue with videos is that you constantly have to pause, backup, restart all the time. Plus I hate having a source of distraction sitting there on my painting desk. I like a book on a stand far better as I can look at it in an image or reference it anytime I look up. Just personal preference I guess.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Plus a book can’t edit around mistakes and pretend a paint job took less time. 🤣🤣

I used a How To Draw Manga: COPIC MARKERS book to get some inspiration for Tau army. Took 2nd place in the Painting Comp at a local tournament. That was back when 40k mattered enough to me to want to push my skills.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I have that book! You might even be able to see copic markers in my background behind the lighted sign. 🤣

That was fantastic. Thanks.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

No, thank you for watching! You could’ve watched The Marvels. But you picked the better option…🤣

@Jharlax

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 haha lost interest in the franchise years ago. Got to actvisty for my taste. Will defnitly buy some of the books. Especially the weathering pencil one. Maybe i can get them to work then 🤣

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yeah those pencils are fiddly little things but can do some cool things on terrain.

Thanks for flipping the pages >.>

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

Aw thanks for the review Will! It means a lot to hear that you got what i intended the book to be. Tommie

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Well looks like my link sold it out so happy to send traffic your way. Bloody good book! You may need to get a lot more printed up. 👍🏼

Great video!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I liked covered books and the video. Especially the part which describes what books actually is.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!!

Your videos inspire me to go mix up my own custom paints from inks and medium and paint. I end up painting something after each of your videos, so thank you for that. Less faffing about what to do and more doing. Plus, I appreciate the humour and sarcasm and as a fellow trained print designer you are excellent at explaining the stuff we know but forgot to wpply to miniatures... 😅

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Weird isn’t it. We designers can make computers do anything with colour. Then we stare at grey plastic and just freeze. Maybe we should write briefs for every model and set a deadline. 🤣🤣🤣

@TheGunnarRoxen

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 you might be on to something there 😂

Still waiting for my first books i bought covering painting. "Miniature Painting made easy" by Colorful Kraken Studio (It's a Kickstarter). Never thought about books in my past.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I’ve never bought a Kickstarter for that exact reason. I can’t wait that long for something. By the time it arrived I’d have found something better. 🤣

Haha... you're funny! But also very helpful

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

Cheers Joe🤣

Great review! I can confirm AK and Ammo MIG are completely separated. They have history together but are now functionally and financially separated. I had the companies confirm this when I boycotted AK after their holocaust debacle

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Great! Thanks for informing me as boy, that one was confusing me! 👍🏼

Great list, I love reference books. FIGOPEDIA by Jérémie Bonamant Teboul is a great book to have. Sort of like Color & Light by James Gurney (another book I'd recommend) but more geared towards model painting. Aside from that AK FAQ Figure Painting Techniques vols 1&2 are great but there is a lot of overlap between them. I think I favour Kirill's Vol.1 more.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I know what you mean. Most i’ve now added to my website but figopedia is really hard to find now.

FYI, AK Interactive has many of their books as ebooks in their app for *way* less than new+shipping - if you can find the in stock. For example, the Color one is $17.99, not $65.99+shipping/out of stock everywhere….

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

Good info! I still prefer the paper book as it doesn’t need to be charged like a tablet. 🤣 But $66?! Is that what you guys have to pay for it? Wow.

oh, it’s dangerous to watch your videos... after watching you definitely have to spend 100-200 euros on very cool stuff. Thanks for this detailed review! damn, these books are very good... As a lover of all physical stuff, I now simply have to buy myself some paper guides! The first and second episodes are simply top.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣 I never expect people to run out buy stuff.

@virrcraft

3 ай бұрын

​@@thestateofplay2023 I was surprised to find Encyclopedia of figures here at local internet store... 44 euro for vol.3 - not so huge price. I mean not cheap, but manageable

@virrcraft

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 I was surprised to find Encyclopedia of figures here at local internet store... 44 euro for vol.3 - not so huge price. I mean not cheap, but manageable

My favorite miniature painting book is F.A.Q Kirill Kanaev. One might think it would be way over the heads of most painters but it's really an excellent source for every technique and concept of mini painting. Worth every penny.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Ooh. I just searched that. It looks amazing. Thank you!

@chrisstabile3243

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 You're welcome!

Another awesome video! I will add some of these books to my wishlist for sure. Can you make a video covering how to extend a day from 24 hours to something like 36 hours so that I can actually get some time to myself to hobby?

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 I’ll go one better. I’ll build a time machine with the laser cutter and some AA batteries.

@bretts2356

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 they make MDF DeLorean kits. All you need to do is add batteries and I think we'd be in business!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

@@bretts2356 Sorted, I'll see you yesterday and reply before you even wrote the comment.

Thanks for the great video! I might get a book or two that aren't still in my hobby library. But if I see that grinning dwarf in another book ever again.... ^^ Have you also taken a look in the minipedia for gamers?

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I did look at that when it was on Kickstarter but as I already had the other one, it looked like more of the same. Effectively painting techniques don’t really change because a model is smaller. Base, shade, glaze, wash, drybrush, highlights. 😜

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

P.s. I might buy that dwarf just so I can take a blowtorch to it

@fleboy8618

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 I fI might suggest a book not mentioned it is "How to paint miniatures for Wargames" by Ammo of Mig Jimenez - a great colleciton of starter techniques going all the way to masterclass. If I had to recommend a single hobby realted book to someone it would be that. But careful not tp purchase the spanish edition ;)

Best video yet

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Really? Thank you my dear sir!

@Old_Wizard_Minis

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 Yeah I'm an old guy. So I love art books, hell books in general. But concerning the content specifically, it's way better than another "Super turbo slap chap wang chung" video. This is excellent content I probably wouldn't have heard of or stumbled over. Also for anyone else who likes this content Marco Frisoni kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmiD2tucgLbKqdY.htmlsi=744qHI4VLYRpQuXW has a great video on art books he likes. Keep up the great work!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

“Super turbo slap chap wang chung “ is now the title for my next video. 🤣🤣🤣

Great video. Highly informative. I see the barrier to buying books is the cost. Hobby can be already expensive. Shelving out $50+ is just not going to happen.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

It’s funny you say that as this is an expensive hobby. No one really ever says this. It’s always strangely ok to spend hundreds of dollars on models that never get painted but a book tips us over the budget. 🤣🤣

@frubblegump

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 agreed. I always tell people think of it as an investment. Unlike paint, etc. Books don’t run out 😂

Thanks for another great video; you had me laughing so much when you were describing to youngsters, what a book is (brilliant)😂😂😂😂 👍🏼

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 it’s funnier when it’s true!

@stevemayers6194

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely 💯. 😂

@stevemayers6194

3 ай бұрын

Maybe you can slip this in one of your future videos that the word ‘incorrectly’ is spelt incorrectly in every dictionary 😂 That will make a few people reach for their dictionaries 😂until they eventually understand it.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

The one I like was what’s the best word in the dictionary. Most people say “best”. But the answer is …better.

Would have been nice to see some examples of you applying some of the techniques you read to your models.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

The video was already too long I think. 🤣 We’ll get there. Everyone and their grandma has a painting channel thesedays. So I’m waiting for a good opening.

Looks like scale75 released an updated minipedia called “minipedia for gamers”. Very curious on how it compares to the original minipedia.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yes I looked at it and it’s linked on my website but…weirdly it was less detailed than the original. Felt like a cash grab to be honest.

FAQ Dioramas seems it might be worth it for me and my girlfriend. Others seem to be good filtered through youtube :)

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I think many of these are dependent on what you’re wanting to do. 👍🏼

Great recommendations! One thing missing is Figopedia, highly recommended :)

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Figopedia is going on my website. But it’s really hard to find now.

@Bishop0151

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 I got a copy last year. I tried going to my local Waterstones with the ISBN, but with no luck. They could only find it at the same random German bookshop I found. I eventually got a copy by going direct to Jérémie's own site, where he does sell it. No next day delivery, but worth the wait. I'd also suggest James Gurney's colour and light. But not for beginners, perhaps intermediate painters looking to up their game. It's a "proper art" book and doesn't mention miniatures at all. So implementing the information in our hobby takes some level of understanding already. I have access because my other half has done proper art for many years. At my first reading a lot of it escaped me, I knew enough to put it to one side and came back months later. When a bit more experience and experimenting started to make what I read and seen in the book, make more sense to me. Thanks for some great suggestions.

I appreciate the zero-indexed based numbering system haha.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 I thought it was a bit weird to devalue a book by calling it 0. Each book system to their own I guess. 👍🏼😜

Great video thanks! I would love it even more if you split the video into chapters 😅

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I was going to do that. But found that chapters were killing my view duration and then causing the video to die. It was a bit like someone telling you what all your Christmas presents were before you unwrapped them. 🤣

I used to think you were secretly Paul McGillion until I looked him up and realized that his accent in Stargate Atlantis was fake and much more time has passed than I realized.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 That dude is Scottish! Not that much older than me though so I see where you’re coming from. I do consider myself more Rodney McKay though….

@M3nacria

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 At the time the show was on the air I had never heard a Scottish accent in real life, so my memory of his voice was pretty vague.

Yoga videos... Like Jules Ari videos😮

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

They have names?!? 🤣🤣

Huzzah for ancient technology!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Next week, how to budget for Warhammer with an abacus!

@HacksawsHobbyBunker

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 Thats how the Amish do it!!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

The Amish paint warhammer? Well I bet they’re never “parade” ready. 🤣

I loved the video! Thank you! Quick question for you sir. If money wasn’t an issue, which book/or sets, would you say I should get? (Could be from this list or anything else that comes to mind). I’m not sure if we should get them all or just a certain few etc. thank you for your time.

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

Definitely the book about colour and mixing. And the art of Tommy Soule next. Then FAQ dioramas for bases. Finally I’d say “minipedia for gamers” which isn’t in the video.

@williamtrinidad3520

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@thestateofplay2023well I’ll add those to my list! I want to read them all. Follow up, in the comments, you referred to minipedia for gamers as a cash grab and a less detailed version of the original minipedia in the video, but now you’re recommending the former. Do you have new information? What’s changed your mind?

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

It’s a cash grab for those people who already own the original minipedia as it’s a lot of the same information. But if you have neither set them it won’t matter which you buy. But the original focuses more on large scale models and the gamers one is more for minis. Basically I wasn’t going to pay £120 twice for the same info.👍🏼

@williamtrinidad3520

2 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 I appreciate you. Thank you sir!

@thestateofplay2023

2 ай бұрын

😜

Casio watch classic

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

You remember when teachers always said you won’t always have a calculator in your pocket? I wanna meet them now and pull out my phone….🤣🤣

Ha 😅 I think I have been watching the same Weathering pencil videos as you.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

🤣 Funny aren’t they. A bad workman blames his tools, especially when the tool is blunt.

I see State of Play video, I click the Like button.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

I see ThorekIronbrow and I add them to my Christmas card list! 👍🏼🤣

@team_rex

3 ай бұрын

…and then I find a thing to comment about!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Gibberish works for the algorithm too. Probably a myth though. 🤣

@team_rex

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 Well, in that case, adjust turbines to speed, correct for inverse polarity, and engage the turboencabulator!

as if you could buy & read the books and subsequently put this knowledge to use in a YT channel :D

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

That’s a good idea. I might try that. 🤣

How to do stuff to minis. Why do I feel worried for the minis. Are they safe

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Around me…no mini is safe. 🤣

@HouseOfChaosUK

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 lol

My problem with most Influencer videos is they bury their tips in hours of "entertainment" (yawn) and it's difficult to track down their tips. Example, the Mini-Witch lass. Lovely lass, nice hair. A recent video is her face scrunched-up in the thumbnail THIS ONE TRICK CAN HELP? and it's just a video about using slow-dry additive (in this case, Newsh) to wet feather blend. She painted a tyranid in her typical Synthwave colours then showed, quite well, how to add extra depth. But unless you can remember which Troll-faced ClickBait title it was filed under, it is lost - like a bottle of Nuln Oil after your hand has slapped the pot. The objectively correct way to learn to paint is VINCE VENTURELLA. His video titles tell you what you will get in the video. His intros are a few seconds long and the rest of the video is explanation. The Shredded Wheat of master artists: nothing added, nothing taken away. And he has 8 years of tutorial videos behind him, the culmination of a 25 year art career.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Nailed it! So many times I remember watching something useful and can’t remember where I saw it. I can save a video but can’t bookmark a specific part of it. With a book I can literally shove a post-it note in the page with a quick note. Thanks for this info because this kind of stuff informs how I make my own videos.

@darthkek1953

3 ай бұрын

@@thestateofplay2023 your videos are usually quite clear as to what they're about, but the "Five Tips" type videos, whilst they might be exciting to watch them unravel the first time, aren't useful as an encyclopaedic resource. Unless you group them by theme, e.g. "Five Laser Burner Tips". You mentioned offhand about the Layman's Medium, "see my other video about it", but it took quite a while to find. You can change thumbnails, even a list on the thumbnail would make subsequent referencing much easier. PS I'm now really gearing up to start painting with the Ink/Layman's Speed tutorial you mentioned a while back and you got me all excited for in the comments. It took a while to get the airbrush due to it having sold out (H&S Ultra) but I have it now (god-damn, for a 1st ever use of an airbrush it's SO easy). Already have 45 minis Zenith primed, 30 Black primed ready to be Zenithed, and 15 unprimed ready to get Black when I can find mountings for them. It's chaos on a tiny table. And that's just the terrain (walls, doors, furniture). 90 miniatures in the first "batch", THEN it's 80 monsters & heroes. And that's just Base set, two mini expansions, and 1 Etsy Resin round. After that, 6 full-sized expansions and a 2nd Round of Etsy Resin. Just a few weeks into the Hobby and my PILE OF SHAME MOUNTS!

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yes it’s hard one on YT to balance. Make a video indexable and obvious and no one clicks. Then YT kills it. Make it more obscure, more clicks but less easy to reference. Totally agree about the airbrush though. Never understood beginner vs advanced in this hobby. What works, works.

"Read between the pannel lines" ... lol

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Well spotted! 😜

Remember when AK made a book about how to make vignettes from the Holocaust and Rwandan genocide? "here's how to model the oven your grandparents were cremated in" AK will never get any of my money.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yup, that’s why I’ve added some Vallejo, Scale75 and AMMO MIG books.

You need to be careful my friend, if we all go off reading books who’s going to be watching you on KZread? 🤣🤣

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Smart educated people maybe? Then perhaps good videos will get views and chaff like Mr Beast will disappear…🤣

I know it's just your sense of humor but at various points in the video, especially the intro, you come off as rather condescending toward younger and/or more tech minded viewers. I'm also not too keen on framing the video medium as the problem when it comes to falling down a rabbit hole of unrelated content. That's not all that different from the anti-ebook luddites who blame the medium for their own inability to focus if/when they have other apps they can fiddle with. As for the use of books on the subject of painting I've found two major issues that prevent me from utilizing them as my primary source of information despite my own preference for reading instructional materials. The first is cost. Many of the publishers of these works seem to subscribe to the GW myth that ours is a luxury hobby and price accordingly. Second is how many of them suffer from what I call the "How to Draw" effect. Think back on those old, ubiquitous "How to Draw ____" books that were popular in the late 80s and early 90s. Specifically, think back on the progression of instructional steps that, effectively, went "draw a circle, draw a square, now fill in all the fiddly bits all at once and you're done". Some are better than others, but many books on the subject (due partially to the limitations on how many images one can fit into print) follow that "beginning, middle, done" approach when those interstitial images are where the "magic" is actually happening. A more conspiracy minded individual might think that the authors want to give the impression that they're giving away their "proprietary" techniques without actually doing so, so as not to foster competition.

@thestateofplay2023

3 ай бұрын

Yes it is indeed my sense of humour. Dry, deadpan, in your face. My apologies if it’s not your thing. But I’m my defence, after spending years building most of the tech we all rely on. No one fell down any rabbit hole before social media. The tech…is the problem. 👍🏼😜