Thanks for the content, always helpful. Keep up the good work

Dead on man! You pretty much said everything I was thinking when I saw the title. Keep up the videos love the content!

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate. I always appreciate the feedback.

Thanks Matt. This helped me understand which tool would be best for me. Also, thank you for doing the lb conversion for the crazy US system, our system really doesn't male sense, but it's what we are all taught to use and think about here in the states. I really enjoyed watching your video and seeing your passion for these tools!

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I’m really glad it helped. The US definitely use some strange metrics, would help if we all used the same. Thanks again and have a great week👍

@thenextgen1able

Жыл бұрын

Just divide inch/pounds by 12 to get ft/pounds

I've got the 18v set and just got the m12 and love it

Just subbed! My main platform (65% of all my tools) are Milwaukee both the 18 and 12v. My favorite m12 is the restoration tool. I've found myself using for every lite duty tasks. Looking forward to your content. Keep up the great work

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Can’t go wrong with Milwaukee. Cheers for the support mate👍

I personally prefer the M12 , for service work , it’s very versatile and great in tight spots . My default impact is the M12 Fuel Surge . Kinda like a pistol with a suppressor ! I also find the M12 Band saw , and Circ . Saw to be very handy !

I got a mix of them depending on the tasks love the m12 impact so light

I'm a commercial security installer so I first got the M18 line since we do a lot of heavy duty work. A few years ago I got the M12 surge impactor with the 4.0 battery and it's my favorite tool now. Light weight with a ton of power its my daily driver but quite often I need my M18 drills to get the task done ✔️

@gergemall

Жыл бұрын

Ditto

@donaldstepp4850

11 ай бұрын

Yep I love my surge reminds me of my Glock 21

I have seen four motor types on Milwaukee tools. Two and four brush motors and small-frame and large-frame brushless. Large-frame brushless tools are usually marked "Fuel". The capacity of the batteries is measured in watt-hours so an M12 battery only has 60 percent of the capacity of an M18 battery with the same amp-hour rating. An M12 Fuel tool may deliver more power than an M18 non-Fuel tool but usually has a shorter runtime.

The M12 FUEL Gen2 (2504 drill/2553 impact driver) are noticeably faster and more powerful than the first Gen models in this video. Only “complaint” I have about them is the 2504 drill changed from a mechanical clutch to an electronic clutch, and while that’s largely a matter of personal preference, there are some measurable advantages to a mechanical clutch, including much lower torque at the low end settings, making them much more suited to installing fasteners in low torque (under 7nm/60in lb) settings such as screws going into plastic, etc.

If I had to pick between the M12 impact or drill to carry in my tool bag witch one would you recommend?

Informative video, thank you.

Last year I bought 18v brushless combo/drill and impact driver for $199, best drill/impact set I’ve ever owned, spend little bit more money for the brushless one, you won’t regret it.

As a sparky, M12 Impact with a 5.0 High Output battery, and a M18 Drill suites my needs perfectly.

Very helpful. Thanks

i like the 18v stuff for rough in work, when all the big holes and fasteners are going in. the 12v comes out for all the trim out and finish. the m12 fuel multi tool is another story, damn thing is a beast that can be used anywhere, lol

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

Great application👌 you’re definitely right about the multi tool. I don’t even have the fuel version but it gets the job done👍🍻

The only M12 I own is the M12 Fuel impact driver (gen 2), even though the M18 Fuels will always be the heavy duty work horse of my Milwaukee tools, the 12v impact driver is definitely the one I carry on me when I climb up a ladder to run a screw into something quickly. It is just so nice how light weight it is and it still does everything I need it to, honestly one of the best purchases I have ever made in recent times just because it is so versatile and allows for quick driving of smaller wood screws.

I run with the m18 platform. Works great doing any kind of framing or siding work. Been contemplating getting a dremel and reciprocating saw in the m12 platform for some of my side hobbies

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

For that sort of work, the m18 would be the best. Smaller stuff, the m12 is great!

@HernanHH95

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely there’s deals on holidays

I’m an apprentice electrician, I love my m12 fuel impact, but after about 6 months my m12 fuel hammer drill gearbox started slipping. Sent it in for a warranty claim, so today I bought an m18 fuel hammer drill. I’m excited to try it out.

@Lewdacris916

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the M12 hammer drill is a bit weak IMO, but the inpactor is the shit! The M18 hammer drill is a beast!

Thanks for this video. As a hobbiest/DIYer I've had the M18 for years. Served me outstandingly well rebuilding cars and building simple wood tables etc. Recently considered the M12 just for some lighter-weight tools. Seems like the M18 is pretty significantly more-powerful. If I were a professional using them all day, every day the M12 seems like a great addition to the tool-box, but for now I'll stick with the M18. I do have an M12 right-angle drill for small places, and it's great, but definitely lacking on power.

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Hey mate. Glad I could help. It’s definitely a good addition for full time smaller works. I’m still using it everyday over the m18. I haven’t used the angled drill yet. It’s definitely on the list.

Def yes I'm an electrician and 12v tools are amazing for trim work. Haven't tried roughing with the hammer drill yet cuz a have a dewalt 998.

Just bought my first m12 tools knowing the m18s are more desireable, But like you said, for my applications the M12s are so much better, light weight and smaller make them easy to lug around. If i need more power ill get an M18. Nothing wrong with having more tools anyway!

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. They’re a great addition to have. I’m really wanting to grab the newer m12 gear. Mines outdated.

I really love the m12 gear. Most of my standard tools are Makita, but those light batteries are incredible. I forgot my driver/drill kit one day and had the m12 screwdriver in my bag. It took a little longer but way less time than going back home to grab the makitas. M12 saved the day. The stapler is amazing. I'm looking forward to that upcoming pin nailer.

Thanks for the video. For around the house I went with a used set of m12 drill and it does fine. I wouldn’t put up a house with it but I also don’t need that much power. I’m currently using a cheapie knockoff battery on it. Honestly should have just gotten a used Ryobi it would have been just fine for my needs.

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome. A lot of the ryobi gear is fine for around the house. It would be interesting to see a comparison with the ryobi vs the m12 gear. Thanks for the feedback 👍

3:50 have you tried setting the speed to 1 for more torque?

I'm a DeWalt guy but I use the 12V impact and screwdriver daily. Can't remember the last time I used my 20V impact. Just no need most of the time.

Salesman at store sold me instantly on the M12, yet when I got home with it and checking it out it I realized I needed a bit set. Then went back on the online sight to get an idea, and realized the M18 was same price yet also for $28 more I could even get a complete M18 with battery, charger, bag and bit set.. so now after reviewing your video, in which was very helpful I will be returning and exchange and definitely go with the M18 bc I’d rather have more efficient tool vs M12 somewhat mediocre for same price as the M18. Yet, I definitely will notice a weight change but I’m okay with that to have a more powerful tool, that won’t disappoint me. So it’s the M18 for me 😃

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely sounds like you made the right choice. Especially if they’re the same price.

@JM-dq7pb

8 ай бұрын

I know it's been a year, but welcome to the Milwaukee family! As many have pointed out in the comments, although he states that newer models are available, what's missing is how much more powerful those newer M12 Fuel drills and drivers are. It could be that you bought and returned the current M12 Fuel. I own both 12v and 18v Fuel current generation tools. The M12 is far from mediocre. My experience reflects that of many who own both - there's not much the M12 can't do. It's the tool I use 90% of the time.

As a sparky myself I can get most of my work done with the m12 range. I only get the M18 when I'm doing heavy drilling

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Seems to be the best setup. 👍

@owent2032

3 жыл бұрын

I also have the Milwaukee packout and veto pro pouch and backpack ! Only the best for sparkies lol

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

You’ve got good taste👌

keep it up mate. Very usefull content. Try Bosch Daredevil spade bit they are far better Irwin.

I'm from trinidad brother and was wondering the process and if it make sense to come work Australia as our electrical is kinda similar lol

Been looking at getting the M12 . Pretty much most of my work is steel i.e gates and automations. Don't need to drill much thicker than 10mm but I have drills for that . Do lots if fastners into plate. This was helpful... looking forward to getting the M12.

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad it was helpful mate. I love the m12 gear. Im up for an upgrade though. Let me know how the m12 drill goes for your work 👌

@mattbickford2640

2 жыл бұрын

Has the m12 been good for you? Going to do what sounds like the same thing as you are doing

IF you are a Electrician I recommend 12V tools or any 18V or 20V tools drivers or drills that don't have that much power but you're looking for a gentle and controllability. You can look on Makita 12V, or DeWalt dcf801 Xtreme 12V or Bosch 12V or something that is very affordable like Hercules brand harbor freight 12V impact driver there's a lot of options out there moe! Don't just look on Milwaukee. Milwaukee is not the only Apple in the Tree. You gotta look the entire Tree or the entire Farm.

Pretty much only use my m12 impact for everything unless drilling holes I use the m18

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

That’s it. Sounds the same to what I usually do. I’ve actually been using the m12 drill for hammer drilling softer smaller holes in residential which has been very handy.

As a electrician you only need the m12 impact but at the end your find your self having more m18 battery’s. 25 years doing this.

@furrys.1304

9 ай бұрын

That's what I'm finding too. Find that I have extra m18 batteries and not enough m12!

as an electrician too I can say that 12V are for lite stuff we got the fuel ones but they are at the bottom of the gangbox rite now, they can’t keep up with the many hours of hard work, m18 fuel all the way

I basically use my 18v for drilling especially in steel and use my 12v impact for screws. The only time I use my 18v impact is for cable tray work which requires more torque.

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds about the same as myself. Great to have both👍

@user-qc7me2hs5c

3 жыл бұрын

Oh dude my fuel drill is great for drilling holes in steel especially when I get lazy and don’t wanna waste time finding a corded drill on a boat and run 10 cables

Great video thanks

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mezzi. I appreciate it👍🍻

Which M12 do you prefer to use to install your electrical mechanical installation the impact m12 or the driver M12

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

I mainly use the impact on almost everything.

I use m12 drill and impact almost exclusively at work but I have the m12 surge impact which has a hydraulic driven hammer and it’s crazy how much quieter the hammer is. Same as many here I just grab an m18 if I’m using a hole saw or something like that. I like how light the m12 stuff is.

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard good things about the surge. I haven’t tried it yet.

New subscriber,glad I found you.

@AddictedtoTools

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate

I use both but advise my apprentices to get 12v for moving shit between cars, portability and what not. Personally between domestic, commercial and industrial jobs my 18v only come out when I'm heading up a ladder boring a hole through a pole or ripping a roof off. 95% gets done with 12v and most of the time just make do with it, at the end of the day the best impact driver will be the one on your hip.

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

100%. The 18v almost never comes out.

Definitely the M12, but you should upgrade to the newer fuel models. You're running some old school stuff and the newer fuel M12 is night and day. The M12 fuel hammer drill has a full size 1/2 inch chuck for a reason, I can drill with big spade bits or auger bit no problems... The current M12 fuel impact and drill has been out for over 2 years. Can't you get the current stuff in your country?

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers. That’s a clarification I make. We have the newer models but I don’t buy new tools unless it’s required.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with these tools. For some unknown reason Milwaukee uses the nominal voltage to rate the M18 batteries but the peak voltage for the M12. The truth is the M12 is more like a M10.8. Even worse they use the inflated voltage to calculate the Watt-hour capacity of the pack which is just wrong. The real Wh capacity of the M12 pack is only 90 percent of what is marked on the label. They calculate the Wh capacity of the M18 pack correctly. Good luck with your videos.

@AddictedtoTools

Жыл бұрын

Hey mate. Cheers for the info. I didn’t know that. Where can I learn about this?

@SuperMurrayb

Жыл бұрын

@@AddictedtoTools There are many sources of information about lithium cells including the Wikipedia. If you have a multimeter you can measure the voltages yourself. Fresh off the charger the M18 pack will measure just over 20V and the M12 just over 12V. That is normal. The charge controllers for common lithium cells charge at constant current to start but will shut off completely when they reach a voltage of about 4.2 Volts per cell. The tool will then draw power from the cells from 4.2 volts down to about 3 volts. The average voltage over the discharge cycle is about 3.6 volts per cell. It is the average voltage value that should be used to calculate the total energy contained in the cell. Milwaukee appears to use 3.6 volts per cell to calculate Wh for the M18 but 4.0 volts per cell for the M12. That is an odd thing to do. An important thing to note is that the internal resistance of the 10.8 volt M12 pack is much lower than the old Ni-Cad or NiMh packs. These newer lithium-based M12 tools can deliver as much power as the old 18 volt tools could with their nickel-based batteries.

I am seeking advice. As a woodturner I often sand bowls using my Milwaukee m18 drill which gets very heavy. Can anyone suggest a lightweight drill for me? Maybe the Milwaukee M12 5203-20? Thank you, Jim

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

I would definitely recommend the m12 drill. The newer models to the one I have, have a lot more power and are lightweight still. Worth a shot

@geojimrpu

2 жыл бұрын

@@AddictedtoTools much appreciated!

Fellow sparky(commercial) here, Thanks for the videos it nice to see someone that actually uses there tools to give us an honest opinion. I've been using the gen 2 drill and impact with 6.0 battery's for the last 3+ years. I also have the older gen1 brushless drill which came free with some second hand 6.0 battery's I bought. Whilst I full understand that you are not going to replace your older m12 kit till it dies, you are also not painting a very accurate picture of the m12 platform in its current state. With regards to the drill for sure its never going to be in the same league as an m18 drill, that being said I've not found any task in the last 3 years on site it cant do yet. From 52mm holes in trunking/panels, 32mm step drill in panels and metal back boxes, and 10-12mm holes in unistrut all no problem. can you stall in out absolutely you can but that just means a lot less chance of breaking my wrist when something grabs unexpectedly. Now as for the gen 2 impact that a different animal entirely its basically the perfect impact for electricians super controllable power, super light weight, From doing delicate stuff like self drilling screws in tin to level3 beast mode for smashing in tapcon anchors, or doing up m10/m12 nuts and bolts. This little beauty does it all no problem at all. ps if you want to see a more up to date comparison check out HayesMachinery on youtube. for sure they aren't very experienced with using power tools but that kind of makes it even more fun to watch.

hey bro, is m12 same charge with m18? I need to buy a charge but I don't don't know if is the same or not

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

You can buy a charger that charges both m12 and m18. They have different mounts.

So for just simple drilling holes through studs to hang up heavy pictures the m12 will be fine?

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Especially the new ones. They’re extremely powerful.

@jo9732

2 жыл бұрын

Save your money. Buy a Ryobi drill. It will be cheaper. The m12 stuff is nice but pricey. Albright to be fair they have a decent Black Friday deal going.

Or you can go for brushless non fuel m18 kit, slap 2ah batteries (if 5ah too heavy for some reason) and have more power with same compact size as the m12 fuel. It makes almost no sense to chose m12 if m18 version is available. one difference: m12 fuel sds is very compact, but has no chisel function

I have 4 😂😂😂😂. Milwaukee M12 and 18 fuel Also 2 of my 6 year old makita ... I moved to the Milwaukee for the power 💪💪💪 but in my opinion it cant beat the Makita on battery. My M12 is the most used drill though 🤣😮

Obviously your m12 drill wont be able to do your 25mm auger bit on speed 2! Put it on speed 1 and im pretty sure it will go trough pretty good!

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. The idea is to show where it starts to not perform. If I’m drilling holes in timber studs all day I would want to know if the m12 would suffice or not. These are questions I get asked so I’m answering.

@francoismorin6316

3 жыл бұрын

@@AddictedtoTools perfect man I understand 👍 great video content by the way! Keep up the good work👍

You cant really recommend a tool by its voltage rating anymore...the M18 impact guns solidly outperform the Makita and DeWalts in 36 or 40V if you watch the comparison on Project Farm or the Torque Test channel. I am still torn on the M12 solely because the M12 angle impact gun has a large head but outperforms a lot of other more expensive tools but I want the M18 for everything else

Hey mate, idea for a video. What would be your choice of multi bit screwdriver and driver bit holder? Been looking for a good one in both and have found conflicting opinions.

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers for the idea mate. It’s definitely something I’m working on. I have a couple now. Just working on getting a few more and seeing how they are in the field so I can give some opinions. I’m always up for more ideas, I appreciate it.👌

@tomwhitehead3352

3 жыл бұрын

Also not sure if you've covered it, but soldering irons. Are you a butane fan or milwaukee m12 fan? Positives to both I've heard (don't have either myself)

The m12 fuel line is a shoulder saver. If it not heavy material I’m using the m12 tools. For home use they will do 99 percent of it

You mentioned that newer models exist, however I don't think that statement accurately portrays how much better the M12 Fuel tools are in comparison to the old brushed models you are using. The newer M12 Fuel drivers would accomplish those tasks very easily.

I recommend the M12 surge. Takes it easier on your ears.

You should let people know that your tools are older generations of the m18 lineup. They have all been updated to be smaller and more powerful nowadays. The m18 line is the best imo. They’re more powerful and the theres more tools on the platform. Recently i considered the m12 because i wanted the 23g pin nailer which is only m12 and since im a cabinet guy it would be handy to have smaller tools. Im too invested into m18 so im just gonna stick to what i have.

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback mate. 2:20mins I state that there are better newer versions and that mine are dated. When it comes to changing platforms, you’ve definitely got to consider the outlay for batteries and so forth. If the 18 is sufficient, then I would also stay with that. Cheers👍

Yes get a M12 100%

I'm not an electrician, used to be one and I sucked at it, I work on cell towers and I love using my M12 impact driver. I have both M18 and M12 and I just keep going back to my M12 because of how light it is.

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

I could imagine you don’t want to be taking anything extra up a tower. The m12 sounds perfect for that application.

@volcomguy51

3 жыл бұрын

@@AddictedtoTools Yup! The lighter I carry, the better. Although, I do have the new M18 Fuel 1/2 impact wrench and it's great for building new structure or tower decommission.

O yeah the newer 12 volt are a lot better I got the 12 volt fuel it’s a beast

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

The newer m12’s are definitely more powerful, and smaller. I always find it strange when I use the impact. It has a slow start up for some reason. Not real issue. Just something I’ve felt when using the apprentices drill.

@troygtge8179

3 жыл бұрын

@@AddictedtoTools yeah I kept the 12 volt Milwaukee but switch to makita on everything else I had the 18 volt hammer drill and impact but had trigger issues and it not working at all on 3 consecutive hammer drill and issue with bit coming out occasionally on impact but they were powerful

what is a chippy?

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Carpenter

Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" kzread.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.

12v for the more mature tradesman after they figure what they need.

M18=absolute power

Your not using the m12 fuel line. Big difference

The gen 2 m12 is literally so much more powerful literally 2x more….. the gen 2 impact is cheaper then the gen 1 also

If your an electrician yes if your a plumber no

@AddictedtoTools

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t use the m12 gear much as a plumber? Whys that? Always interesting to hear what other trades are doing👍🍻

@glenarseneau1231

3 жыл бұрын

@@AddictedtoTools I have m12 tools they have their purpose but as a plumber we drill larger holes so why have the m12 when the m18 does everything the m12 does and so much more, just my opinion but I don’t want to stock my van with more tools when one does everything

@shponjoel

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenarseneau1231 why would you drill holes with an impact? Just have your 18v hammer drill for holes. I use the 12v impact for anything besides holes. The hammer drill does a better job with holes anyways.

Would m18 be better for the long run? Appreciate here trying to save 😂 just getting started.

@AddictedtoTools

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by ‘for the long run’?

I'm a window/door installer, using the M12 for years. Started with the 18s and switched to m12 and will never look back, use them for everything. I use the 4amp battery. I noticed they make a 6amp as well. I would like to try the 6amp but their expensive

@AddictedtoTools

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely worth getting the 6ah if you want longer use. They don’t weigh much more and are the same size as the 4. Good tools for what your using them for👌

@kayaking1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@AddictedtoTools $158+ tax in Canada for one battery