Note: Charges made against Justin Roiland were dropped.

@MechShark

8 ай бұрын

Respect. ✌

@alalmalal

8 ай бұрын

Gonna talk about the incredibly believable grooming allegations next?

@mastertubbily1812

8 ай бұрын

Dang it

@NickVS

8 ай бұрын

that's not why he ended up canceled because he's a groomer

@Notchjrgaming1269

8 ай бұрын

Justin roiland could be a groomer but why only cancel him why not also cancel all the trans kids activist and drag queen that read books to children while showing off their balls

The two rules of millennial writing: 1. The author is annoying 2. The writing is about themselves

@MollyHJohns

Жыл бұрын

I'm a Millenial but I don't claim these and Mindy Kaling

@ZyroShadowPony

Жыл бұрын

And there has to be a character with the shaved side swept to the other side style. For some reason it has to be included as if its something very important

@tn420animations9

Жыл бұрын

@@MollyHJohns she is gen x

@tn420animations9

Жыл бұрын

@@cold_static she's a gen x

@synestia4005

Жыл бұрын

@@redwaytoo Found the fragile millenial xD

this writing style just screams ''im 36 and i never grew up after high school''

@EplusNis4ever

Жыл бұрын

i forgot to add, i am younger than 36 and when i was a teen, i already avoided games like borderlands for having dialogue like this. i think mentioning even high school in the above sentence is too much of a compliment

@Hypnotically_Caucasian

Жыл бұрын

Being younger than 28, I can also attest these millennials talk like this too. Untalkative aspies like me stick out

@Chamiliatic

Жыл бұрын

Because they peaked in high-school.

@trueblueclue

Жыл бұрын

An average millennial

@Buckwheat0

Жыл бұрын

@@EplusNis4ever you missed out, BL2 was so much fun

The phrase “Is this adulting?” Is the perfect example of this and pretty much encapsulates their entire existence.

@RobotGuy405

5 ай бұрын

the people that say that are also always like in their 30's too the average millennials' brain stopped developing by the time they graduated high school

@AnimusBehemoth

4 ай бұрын

Damn, bud. You sound exactly like a millennial complaining about boomers. Weird, huh?

@TaRAAASHBAGS

4 ай бұрын

​@@AnimusBehemoth"Only one group of people can be terrible at a time."

@AnimusBehemoth

4 ай бұрын

@@TaRAAASHBAGS funny how it always happens to be the generation older than yours, eh? Im not judging anyone for it, just can’t help pointing out that it happens every generation.

@Daddix0

4 ай бұрын

@@AnimusBehemothEvery generation has its dumb quirks and downfalls, so, yeah, it’s always going to happen. The previous and newest generation will be considered obnoxious in some way, and so will that generation too. Because it’s all true. Never won’t be something to mock and complain about for people.

Being quirky loses it's charm when it becomes vindictive and condescending.

@mohannadalshamrani199gmail

6 ай бұрын

That's the best way to explain it, bro

@lasarousi

3 ай бұрын

Evil can also be quirky, the problem is that these writers equate quirkiness with minorities and victims because they see themselves as anything but the bad guy.

@HiGlowie

3 ай бұрын

@@lasarousibingo. Too many people obsess over skin color/gender/orientation when personality and character is what actually matters and should be focused on

@JCTBomb

3 ай бұрын

Yes!! Well said!

@thequinlanshow3326

2 ай бұрын

​​​@@S_F_SThis!!!! This!!!! This!!!! Shut up man Jesus christ

The marvel cinematic universe and its consequences has been a disaster for the writing race

@TNDTKDTTD

Жыл бұрын

Snowplows and colon cancer have been a savior to the film industry

@MarkMightBeBetter

Жыл бұрын

I miss old marvel movies man, they were better.

@EmilyKimMartin

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkMightBeBetter Same. Superhero movies should've never evolved from being a cheesy, aesthetically charming package filled with action for an hour and a half. Now you get this POG MULTIVERSE 🤓😲 crap with REFERENCES and MEMES and a lot of shitty lore that only exists to bait into sequels and spin-offs.

@Hot_SpicyGrill

Жыл бұрын

There are so many marvel movies they’ve told every single type of bad joke once. It’s just new cringe, simpsons did it frist kind of argument said by people who don’t know how to write.

@leiferickson1494

Жыл бұрын

@@TNDTKDTTDWhat’s the context for this?

The perfect examples of "safe-edgy". They'll mention wage-slavery, but stop before they offend their producers

@yavvivvay

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they should starve to prove a point I guess.

@vladthedragon8250

Жыл бұрын

@@yavvivvay If they starved outside of their own 'wellness induced choice' they wouldn't be writing stuff like this because they'd have at least some lived context of suffering. They have none, so microgressions become a human rights violation.

@yavvivvay

Жыл бұрын

@@vladthedragon8250 there is no hierarchy to suffering. Of course given that, there is a certain hierarchy of needs blocking each other. If you have issues in the lower needs you will think the level above is silly and ridiculous... until you get there.

@vladthedragon8250

Жыл бұрын

@@yavvivvay There definitely is a hierarchy of suffering. It's the very definition between a need and a want and the consequence of being deprived of it. Contrast is what gives things their definition, without a low end contrast and with the high end being so stable it's invisible you get progressives.

@yavvivvay

Жыл бұрын

@@vladthedragon8250 well I don't think there is as i mostly agree with Edith Eger who spoke about her suffering in the concentration camps not being more worth or worse than the suffering her patients experienced. Moreover, people who literally have issues with getting food are sometimes the most optimistic and content individuals you can imagine - as suffering is complex and escapes easy definitions. But to each their own I guess. IMHO the problem is the writers write about percieved suffering of others, not their own. There are many well written stories about depression or discrimination out there. There are also books about experience of others that work really well - you just need to let them speak and pull your ego out. What I see in modern writing is mostly the unicorn upbringing of "you can be whatever you want" morphed into ego of "I never make mistakes" and "any criticismy of my writing is attack on the people who my agenda supports". The criticism then becomes an attack on your tribe, as you setup defenses of class/minority/identity around your work, unwilling to accept it might just be bad. Because when your work is good (Dead space remake) nothing of that matters that much, only fringe haters from both sides will blow up over it.

"The writers just expect that we care about these characters" That is one of the single most important roots to the issue, honestly.

@grimgrahamch.4157

5 ай бұрын

Yiik comes to mind. Especially when the writer for that game called the many MANY people who criticized his writing as children who want toys, not art.

@TaRAAASHBAGS

4 ай бұрын

@@grimgrahamch.4157 Sounds like he was totally Yiiking out

@Krustyplayboy

4 ай бұрын

I don’t care about real people why would I care about your fake ones ya know

@publiusventidiusbassus1232

3 ай бұрын

​@@Krustyplayboythat's unironically what a millenial writer would say

@cam5816

3 ай бұрын

Good point!

The "Problematic Accent" joke really pissed me off. Some people actually talk like that.

@Strix2031

6 ай бұрын

That was the worse line in the video

@ZuluZizo

5 ай бұрын

Italians are problematic now

@lonemaster9290

5 ай бұрын

I'm sorry, but could you refrain from using language that may insult victims of beingbornwithoutabladderitis in the future? Saying 'pissed off' is like the N-word for the Non-Bladdered People.

@GayFrogsTho

5 ай бұрын

AY PWAULIE LOOK AT THIS FOCKEN GUY!!!!!

@Need_A_Newsted_Of_Strings

4 ай бұрын

​@@lonemaster9290 wassup pissed off

I love the Tweet that goes “all art is inherently political”, with the top reply being “what is the political message behind fat Pikachu?”

@simonpetrikov3992

5 ай бұрын

@@whatev2453or that the lack of any immediate message is a sign that you support the status quo

@chrisa7134

5 ай бұрын

It’s fat shaming duh, and it’s highly problematic

@trcimalo763

5 ай бұрын

uhmmm the yellow pikachu actually represents the hyperinflation experienced in western montenegro around the turn of the 90's. but i would expect a FASCIST like you to know about it

@taterthepenguin

5 ай бұрын

If it doesn't have a political message then it's not art. Pretty simple, huh

@m.infernal

5 ай бұрын

It is a deep introspective look into the modern american life style and their over consumpsion of sugar and alcohol while living a sedentary life style causing most of the health problems, mental and physical, for everyone big and small. Yet it is being pushed under the rug as to not shame anyone... or something like that.

1. Pop culture references 2. Characters that just won't shut up 3. Forced humor every 5 seconds 4. Everything is a "critique" of something 5. Cartoonish black and white morality The 5 Pillars of Millennialism. Also everything needs to be loud for no reason.

@thecompareablezombie

Жыл бұрын

As A millennial I agree, that is what some of the most loudest Millennials in the America think.

@theALTF4

Жыл бұрын

i like bocchi too :) AND your mockery of milenials as well 6.everything is toxo/phobic/blematic/soginistic and the author's massive ego si the solution 7.criticism toward the author's ego is rape-speech and toxoblematic and you shoud DO BETTER 8.any form of criticism is "acktualley *snort*🤓🤓🤓" bc you're speaking from your internalized ______phobia/giny/ism therefore your opinion is invalid (proceeds to seek validation in redditwitter...and to dogpile the critic)

@thehermit8618

Жыл бұрын

Millennial writers are chronically afraid of silence and letting people come to their own conclusions

@eren2519

Жыл бұрын

My millennial sibling mentioned there’s also a “millennial stare” scene a lot

@aoiasahina4654

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of yiik

"Erm. Okay. THAT just happened. Lets unpack this. (Insert meme/reference that either died 6 months ago or will die in 2 weeks here)"

@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778

3 ай бұрын

I cannot wait for the day zoomerspeak and zoomer culture is mocked just like millennial shit is.

@joshuafischer684

3 ай бұрын

Yikes 100 Keanu Chungus Le Heckin Cuckolderino

@GuiltyNoticer

2 ай бұрын

"lets unpack this" "hope this helps" "that's gonna be a big yikes from me dawg" "ok sweetie"

@schnek8927

2 күн бұрын

Six months? Try six years.

Ive recently heard the term "safe-edgy" and i think that's common now.

@mohannadalshamrani199gmail

6 ай бұрын

Why do i feel like they're two opposites "Safe and edgy"

@covenantfemboy

6 ай бұрын

​​@@mohannadalshamrani199gmailIts people who are fine with making fun of white nationalities but not brown people basically

@BLKKNGofficial

6 ай бұрын

Those, don't even go together. How does that work???

@mhmtakeyatime9000

6 ай бұрын

@@BLKKNGofficial I.. don't really know. I'd say it means only being moderately edgy?

@BLKKNGofficial

6 ай бұрын

@@mhmtakeyatime9000 so like...Shrek maybe? Or shadow the hedgehog

I love it when people known for mindlessly toxic consumerism make vague jabs at capitalism.

@chrisnichols9014

Жыл бұрын

Pure irony.

@honkhonk8009

11 ай бұрын

Ong bruh. These peoples consumerims makes andrew tate look like Confucius.

@honkhonk8009

11 ай бұрын

I knew this guy, who kept doing the same twitter-speak shit about capitalism almost all the time after watching Hasan. I said the military kinda has its own socialist economy going if u think abt it with their own in house barber shops and hospitals and stuff. This motherfucker deadass said (copypasted): "Thats not socialism. Socialism is classless, money-less society! Capitalism isn't when you use money! Capitalism is low pay, exploitative labor, and no unions!!!!!" Idk if this brainlet realizes that his description of capitalism applies to the USSR. Ion hate the dude, but he was a massive Elon Musk meatrider before Elon Musk started talking bad about democrats. Then he immediately switched his tone, and called him a capitalist grifter lmfao.

@darkzeroprojects4245

11 ай бұрын

Pretty much. It makes me groan every time.

@TheThreatenedSwan

11 ай бұрын

You see if you make jabs at a vague system, you are free to make unethical consumption choices to your hearts content

This reminds me of when I was a kid seeing cartoons written by old people trying to be "hip" with the kids by featuring rap songs.

@JesusChrist-ey9qt

Жыл бұрын

Hey possum didn’t expect to see u here

@StephonZeno

Жыл бұрын

@@JesusChrist-ey9qt It's almost like KZreadrs are people who watch youtube videos as well.

@JesusChrist-ey9qt

Жыл бұрын

@@StephonZeno yeah but it’s never KZreadr that I watch or care about

@taitos00

Жыл бұрын

Unexpected Possum cameo

@juliaturk7054

Жыл бұрын

Holy smokes it's Possum!

i think the lack of sincerity comes from fear of being judged by the internet. it's easier to handle someone shitting on your bad jokes than shitting on something you truly believe in.

@DSPsWifesBf

3 ай бұрын

Make white man bad, make woman/POC good = social media claps

@IrritatedIndex

3 ай бұрын

Good point. That might be why so many people just regurgitate memes. It is much easier to accept crickets when the joke wasn't a product of your actual wit

@marccamp6376

2 ай бұрын

Daaamn, reminds me of Sam Hyde when he actually spoke about the very same thing, about a teen rapper that 'joke-rapped half the way because he was afraid of being authentic and be mocked, so it's easier to produce parody gargabe that you can excuse of any criticism'

@joeyberg5765

18 күн бұрын

As an unpublished writer, that is an honest fear of mine. Not the kind that stops me dead in my tracks, mind, but it's definitely caused some real anxiety. "What if this thing I've poured my heart and soul into just goes completely unnoticed," says the voice in my head that makes me lock up at my keyboard. "Or worse, what if it's just reviled? What if I become the next fodder dummy for the Rant-sona hordes and the video essayists? What if my first failure is so catastrophic that it's also my last?" It's kind of scary, watching the critic world tear apart people like E.L. James and Stephanie Meyer and the like, and all too easy to think, "well surely MY work is better than that". But is it really? Would I recognize if it wasn't? I'd like to think so, but I imagine so did the ones that got tossed into the wood chipper before me, and it sure didn't save them. I'm not opposed at all to criticism; it's a necessary tool for the improvement of any art, but social media is in a place right now where a creator's reputation of quality can vacillate between champion of their craft and incompetent, untouchable wretch at the drop of a hat. I guess what I'm saying is that the peanut gallery isn't throwing peanuts anymore, they're chucking white phosphorus grenades that burn the words "fell off" out of your fucking ashes, and it makes amateurs like me and mine that much more anxious to step into the spotlight with anything we don't know will please the crowd or not.

a lot of this kind of humor (the made-up words, the playground insults mixed with swearing, the sarcasm, etc) was very popular on tumblr from around 2010-2016, when a lot of millennials would have been active on the site. combine the "tumblr residue" with the fact that they have to be ~cool and marketable~ and you get a lot of humor like this

@DSPsWifesBf

3 ай бұрын

I’ve noticed culture catering more and more to the infantilization of people. Most mainstream media is so safe and feels like it’s made for literal children. This goes for AAA video games, movies/shows, even music has become simple as hell.

@katec708

3 ай бұрын

yeah 100%

@pedolover69

2 ай бұрын

yeah, everyone has become oversensitive, thats why. everything is scandalous now, you cant have a serious conversation about serious topics without being called names. ​@@DSPsWifesBf

@Twiddle_things

2 ай бұрын

It's the kind of humour that DSMP and HLVRAI fans have and I can't express how much I despise it. The aesthetic artists too, yk the ones. The ones who tween at 5FPS with a super desaturated pastel colour palette. Every one of these people talks and acts the exact fucking same there is absolutely no individuality. The neopronoun TikTok people, too. I don't understand how these people can all act the exact same and not feel ashamed. YOU don't have a damn identity. You're just mimicking what others say. How do you not feel embarrassed? All the same opinions and tastes. These people consume the same exact media too and love the same KZreadrs. They latch onto trends and immediately adopt new bullshit lingo. "I'm a blurry fragment with somewhat of a name and personality /pos" "i'm stimming so hard rn,,," "WAAAAA EATZ !!! /pos /th" "omg ur stinky /hj" THEY ALL ACT QND TALK TH3 3XACT SAME I HWTE THEM I DONT CARE TAHT THIS IS OFF TOPIC NOW I HATE THESE QUIRKY ASS KIDS WHO ACT THE EXACT SAME AND REPEATEDLY SPEW THE SAME TIRED QUIRKY BULLSHIT

@Faygo2215

2 ай бұрын

The tumblr exodus is what caused this, if tumblr didn’t ban adult content this would have never happened or happened on a smaller scale

"They're not saying it because they think they have something to say, but because they think they have to say something." That's such a great way to put it.

@makutas-v261

Жыл бұрын

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent" -Qui Gon Jinn See, an ACTUAL wise pop reference.

@xyouthe

Жыл бұрын

in high school i had a friend who dealt with autism and i noticed he was starting to think the same way. had to let him know that not everything that happens online needs your opinion to be put out there. if you dont have anything to say, dont force it because youre "obligated" to talk about issues, youre not obligated

@ab-gail

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! That’s exactly it! Cause that’s how School tells you to write.

@AVI-lh6rm

Жыл бұрын

@@makutas-v261 "You are made of stupid." - that one guy from command and conquer

@malcode9155

Жыл бұрын

Plato: “Wise man talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.”

Millennial game writers trying their hardest not to create the most boring and unfunny characters for 10 seconds(very hard challenge)

@jonsnow9659

Жыл бұрын

is what you said Millennial speak or Gen-Z speak?

@superbodoque7860

Жыл бұрын

*dies*

@mightquinnable

Жыл бұрын

@@jonsnow9659it’s millennial, cause the writers in question are in they early 40’s most of the time. It’s their awful attempt at appealing to zoomers.

@TacticalReaper56

Жыл бұрын

@@jonsnow9659 millennials ruined SM. I was born in the in-between stage of them so I got to watch all their BS unfold. They are a stain on this planet and ultimately can't do shit until they bitch or moan enough. That's just a fact, I've yet to meet a millennial that is emotionally stable or able to critically think about situations separating thought from feeling. It's disgusting and disturbing how up their own ass they can be

@Stryfe52

Жыл бұрын

@@mightquinnable I think he meant the meme, unless you mean the meme too?

"erm, morty, God is dead morty, the government is bad morty, *burp* people are never good morty, it's always for money morty. I'm so much smarter than anyone morty and I hate myself" they think themselves smarter than anyone, but still feel they aren't fully recognized for it. They're victims of someone who's stopping them from a potential they don't even know about

@foxboy6145

Ай бұрын

We need more media that showcases hope and showing people who, even as their struggles drag them down, they still do it because either it's the right thing, or because they know someone is counting on them. We need more heroes who do things for others, not just themselves. Nowadays, we're getting nihilistic, narcissistic jerks who can't shut up and are more interested in their own self-interests.

@drumnbasssakuga9352

Ай бұрын

it’s because they see themselves as more sophisticated and less simpleminded than their boomer parents, but exactly like those parents they just regurgitate the consensus of their generation… boomers are always saying some bs about “the new generation is soft” and millenials are always saying some bs about late stage capitalism and developmental trauma

Ironic that the generation that continuously complains about how self centered baby boomers are is seemingly incapable of writing a character that isn't exactly like them

@HydratedBeans

4 ай бұрын

All of the good games released lately were written by millennials. Borderlands and tumblr writers just suck.

@nyarlat2609

4 ай бұрын

​@@HydratedBeansbeing in that generation doesn't make you "millennial" anymore. You can be sane and born in the era, without being a "millennial" prick. I'm a millennial, but my lazy self-centered useless neighbors are "millennials", you get it?

@Bomberman66Hell

4 ай бұрын

​@@HydratedBeansLike what games specifically?

@HydratedBeans

4 ай бұрын

@@Bomberman66Hell most good and bad games released since roughly 2012 were written by millennials. That’s when we started making up the bulk of the workforce

@firstreality3867

4 ай бұрын

@@HydratedBeans This video just cherrypicks bad AAA titles and uses it as an excuse to complain about 72+ million people, for some reason.

I sure do love it when the greedy coorporations talk about capatalism

@Marcara081

10 ай бұрын

By monopolizing its critique they're free to abuse it without fear of retribution. It's an old trick. This is why all the major criticism of government comes from secretly government-backed sources. In America, this is Daily Wire, MSNBC, etc. It bounds the narrative within controllable limits and ensure nothing effective is ever done (or realized).

@jaxkal9596

10 ай бұрын

It's kinda brilliant, they sell merch about "capitalism" to fund the capitalism , and the folk keep buying it xd

@bleachknight90

10 ай бұрын

Its basically a type of gate keeping. Words are always cheap, that is why companies shell them out. Any trust should be built off a history of actions and not words, especially when it comes to soulless corporate mega companies. Why companies get away with just words today, its because human have not adapted yet to being lied to over the internet. We still need a few more generations for it to really sink in that companies don't care about you even a little bit, they care about your money and their money.

@pedrotbird5426

10 ай бұрын

@@ColdSnap9 Same I love it when they lecture about the importance of charity whilst sitting on more money a person could fathom 😍

@MelGibsonFan

10 ай бұрын

@@pedrotbird5426I’m getting vague notions of a certain Turk streamer… Basan, Kazan…? Hmmm 🤔

It's basically people who don't read adult books writing. They've never encountered a moral quandary that they couldn't solve or a paradox. They read books like twilight and hunger games with no complexity or challenge

@PaladinHD

Жыл бұрын

They learned how to "write" from watching Marvel movies lol. They have probably never studied the craft in any depth and are hired based on a diversity standard...

@adamtr1026

Жыл бұрын

@@PaladinHD given how the new dnd movie is literally marvel with a coat of fantasy paint I agree

@coboby3347

Жыл бұрын

It's mostly people in their mid to late thirties that either don't read at all or exclusively read YA

@adamtr1026

Жыл бұрын

@@coboby3347 we're in the post hunger games and twilight years

@deriznohappehquite

Жыл бұрын

DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!

it's not mainly because of twitter. it's as you said, these writers come from coastal elite backgrounds, out of touch with everyday people

@DSPsWifesBf

3 ай бұрын

That and if they actually portray people even remotely realistically there would probably be some outrage.

@Frithonor

2 ай бұрын

Ridiculous. They just don't know how to write, has nothing to do with what part of the country they're from. 🙄

@DSPsWifesBf

2 ай бұрын

@@Frithonor agreed. There are obnoxious types everywhere. It does seem to be like a lot are in California, but that’s probably because California is such a populated area.

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

Ай бұрын

pfff really?

@asdf-sr1ny

26 күн бұрын

But “twitter-speak” still plays a huge part in it. It is debatable whether or not it is the main reason, yet without a doubt twitter plays an important role in altering the vocabulary of a lot of users who spend way too much time there. That’s not unique to twitter either, but the blend of words and the general writing style adhered to in that website is just insufferable.

The way millennials on twitter talk about capitalism is hilarious to me, as someone from the former Soviet Union. Like, you think we didn't have shitty bosses?

@texanarchy666

16 күн бұрын

you think the soviet union was in any way what we are asking for?

@texanarchy666

16 күн бұрын

the soviet union wasnt communist. we want communism

@user-jc1dw9zf5t

15 күн бұрын

@@texanarchy666 it objectively was , as an actual communist , stop with the bullcrap ''it wasnt real communism''

@texanarchy666

14 күн бұрын

@@user-jc1dw9zf5t it objectively wasn’t a stateless, classless, moneyless society, which is what communism is.

@josephb.4640

12 күн бұрын

@@texanarchy666 - Yes. You ARE asking for it, but you are too brainwashed by childish idealism and too ignorant of history to know that you are asking for it.

It's not that millennials are bad writers. It's that millennials can BE as bad a writer as they want and still keep their job.

@JDoe-gf5oz

9 ай бұрын

Oldest millennials are in their 40s now. Statistically there have to be at least some good writers among them.

@ahuramazda2252

9 ай бұрын

I think it's both. Mostly because of shitty culture that millennials grew up on unlike their predecessors.

@andrewarbeit5393

9 ай бұрын

That’s changing as we speak. This strike is the culling

@jamesbackstar8285

9 ай бұрын

Statement accurate asf

@TheGraveyarder

9 ай бұрын

@@andrewarbeit5393the industry is just replacing them with ai machines who are programmed to steal the writing styles from the bad writers 🙃 we're still going to get millennial writing but its just written by a robot

There's a small moment in GTA IV that is the anathema to the millenial idea of "trauma". When going out on a date with Michelle, she might ocasionally speak about Mallorie, saying she is poor, to which Niko coldly responds "You people don't know what poor is".

@Mabra51

Жыл бұрын

GTA IV was something else.

@deriznohappehquite

Жыл бұрын

The American Millenial conception of poverty seems to be “has some form of stress or mental burden due to lack of infinite resources”.

@BlueTyphoon2017

Жыл бұрын

@@deriznohappehquite I mean, not really, I think it’s just more so just stress. And what do you mean not having infinite resources?

@gamesux420

Жыл бұрын

@@BlueTyphoon2017 like "having to get a job to affort living" as opposed to just having essentially unlimited funds to live and do whatever you feel like, like when you live at your parents place. Thats what a lot of the, quite frankly really retarded, "anti-capitalism" thing boils down to for these people "i have to work but i dont want to work"

@moister3727

Жыл бұрын

Modern poverty for americans seems to be that they can't afford the last iPhone Pro Max or whatever.

I think a big underlying facet of Millennial writing is that it can’t just let something be outlandish or weird and leave it at that. As much as people meme about “Le quirky EarthBound inspired RPG” (and for good reason) EarthBound is actually a pretty good example of having an inherently wacky, tongue-in-cheek world that still feels grounded and sincere. The Millennial writer’s idea of EarthBound would have Ness going “Erm… I’m fighting a SENTIENT PILE OF HECKIN’ BARF? AWKWARD!” And shit every time something out of the ordinary happens

@shiba2ndworlder

5 ай бұрын

Undertale moment.

@BlindMarksman

4 ай бұрын

Same is true of his little dig at Whedon (and Tiny Tina, for that matter). For all the hack writers at Marvel have driven their misshapen Frankenstein's monster of his quippy dialogue style into the ground so hard it's cored through the Earth and come out the other side, the man himself did it _right._ There's a damn good reason Buffy, Angel, Firefly and even the first Avengers are so beloved among nerds, and it's not simply because that style of writing was still novel enough to be acceptable at the time they were produced. It's because Whedon was a good enough writer to understand when a joke to break the tension was beneficial to a scene and when he needed to let things remain dramatic.

@rainesaysdie863

4 ай бұрын

​@@shiba2ndworlder I think undertale and actually was really fun and good in 2015, but with how our world has changed and how much people have copied undertale it's kinda eh now

@trustytrest

4 ай бұрын

'I just used magic powers with my freaking mind!"

@TaRAAASHBAGS

4 ай бұрын

1) They think their audience is too stupid to understand their creations on their own. "If I don't explain WHY this is so clever... they might miss my genius! Or worse... they'll interpret it in a way I don't want them to!" 2) Their addiction to consumption requires them to over-explain everything. It's why everything from Five Nights at Freddy's to Lethal Company is full of """lore.""" They can't let anything be its own work; it needs to be ever-expanding and a franchise they can become obsessed with. It used to be we'd have church and the Bible to be our realms of retreat and wonder, now it's debating Star Wars battle anthology or which Primarch is the best kisser.

I swear to god all of this can be traced back to the tumblr exodus during the mid-late 2010's, it feels like since all the horrible writers and cringy, aggressive, condescending and overly political people of tumblr left and infested the rest of the internet, this kind of stuff has become really commonplace. And now because it's spread so far more people began to adopt the same mannerisms. This stuff used to be ripped on in like 2014-2015 because it was so awful, I remember! it was actively mocked because it was just CRINGE. But now it's become commonplace and inescapable. It's tragic

@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, People used to make fun of these people for a good reason. Now look at the state of everything since they have gotten power over the internet. The quality of everything has gone down and people just want to lie and say that it hasn't Nowadays making fun of those types of people is seen as "cringe" When they deserve it for the hypocritical and horrible things they want to do. its tragic to see almost every youtuber who used to stand against this shit suddenly change and promote the ideology of the people who they used to make fun of. They say its "maturity" But their is nothing mature about being a professional victim and treating everyone around you like shit.

@WingedFish66

3 ай бұрын

I'm convinced the porn ban and resulting Tumblr exodus was done for the express purpose of spreading that hivemind across the internet. Looking back now it felt way too calculated of an event. 5 years ago nobody except the most echo chambered and terminally online weirdos cared about pronouns. Now it's suddenly mainstream to the point where people have their lives ruined for not getting some manchild's made up gender identity correct? When NOBODY gave a crap about this sort of thing in human history before? Nah, something is up

@eeyorehaferbock7870

2 ай бұрын

@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778it certainly doesn’t help that a lot of the people calling each other out are functionally the same, as in: equally full of it in their own way.

@GuiltyNoticer

2 ай бұрын

Just like the "revolutionary" boomer hippies have gotten into managerial positions of every aspect of our society after them done being edgy. Their losers kids, the millennials, now have to take the baton.

@RaymondStormbl3ssed

Ай бұрын

I believe tumblr is also where the whole MAP/NoMAP bullshit started where a bunch of p3dos started forming communities and gave themselves a new branding to appear harmless and sane

We hate capitalism. We worked really hard on this game, please pay us 100$ for it.

@lenargilmanov7893

Жыл бұрын

Trade existed before capitalism. Also, even it it hadn't, you still have to live under capitalism and you gotta make money if you want to survive. "When you live among wolves, you have to howl like one."

@kakyointhemilfhunter4273

Жыл бұрын

Doesnt matter how much you hate the system. People still need money to survive and still have to participate in the system

@renard6012

Жыл бұрын

@@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 They don't. People can choose to move to other country with a stronger state economy. The fact they don't is because they are aware that they benefit from capitalism far more than they are comfortable admitting.

@ferghalicious1480

Жыл бұрын

@@renard6012 You must not have very much life experience if you think ​the only reason people can’t or won’t just move to another country is because “capitalism rocks.” Maybe take some time off from reddit and start living in the real world.

@pedrolmlkzk

Жыл бұрын

The real irony is that raising clearly disproves the work theory of value

the MCU ruined a generation of writers

@changsiah2

Жыл бұрын

hater

@rubricon3491

Жыл бұрын

supporter

@changsiah2

Жыл бұрын

@@rubricon3491 hater

@pmsdgy1325

Жыл бұрын

@@changsiah2 loyalist

@blitzstrk0

Жыл бұрын

@@changsiah2 You look softer than the Pilsbury Doughboy, go to the gym weakling.

My favorite part is when you meet these people IRL who always complain about stuff like "Late Stage Capitalism" they are often the most consumer-driven, brand loyal, product obsessed individuals of the bunch. Yes, I'd love to hear the opinions on how "awful capitalism is" from a guy who's room is plastered with Star Wars products from wall to wall!

@kap1618

4 ай бұрын

It's worse than that. Its people who try to gauge other's moral worth by the products they consume.

@silverprimus321boi9

4 ай бұрын

"Star wars" I fucking hate Disney for what they did to that IP.

@Toroleco

4 ай бұрын

i was a watered down infantilized version of the DUNE saga from the start anyways. @@silverprimus321boi9

@blknmongl342

4 ай бұрын

Then they bring up the usual strawman of "you want to change society yet you live in one".

@Skyfoogle

4 ай бұрын

conflating consoomer soyboys with far leftists is like conflating maga boomers with groypers. most marxists i know can't afford merch outside of pride flags and posters for an anime that ended 30 years ago

I've heard some people say it's because writers nowadays have no real world experience. Writers back in the day tended to have an actual profession, field of study, or whatever on top of writing for fun. They have real life experiences and real people to draw inspiration from. I've met a few aspiring writers and they're just so clueless about so much of the world. They want to act smart because they can use big words or something, but in reality, they don't actually know anything and they just wanna be a writer because they consume media 24/7 and want to make their own.

@billjacobs521

3 ай бұрын

That's some of it. But even if you haven't lived through certain things, you can at least do research, or bring in a consultant. Writers used to work hard to figure out how to make things real. I've seen sci-fi authors talk about the countless hours they spent trying to learn about bleeding-edge tech or even just theoretical stuff, getting a feel for how it does or could work, and then implementing that into the story. And then there's the example of Tolkien; he wrote about 10 books worth of notes of backstory and history of his fictional world, and then wrote his novels, which made it feel very grounded. Entirely fantastical, but Rohan felt like an actual place and not just some guys over there somewhere.

@urphakeandgey6308

3 ай бұрын

@@billjacobs521 I never said it was the entire problem. Obviously, I think a ton of factors play into this. I was just throwing this out as something that's probably having an effect. Especially in industries like Hollywood, I don't think writers in the top positions get there entirely on merit. A lot of it comes down to nepotism. Also, I'm not saying people need real life experiences for realism or anything like that. Genres like fantasy or sci-fi have nothing to do with my point. I've known aspiring writers that take too much inspirtion from existing media and almost nothing else. It's to the point I can usually tell what they're taking ideas from. Old writers seemed to like taking inspiration from their own lives and the lives of others. A lot of characters were also based off of people they knew. When a writer writes a story and characters that way, it's no wonder it feels more believable and authentic than when a writer basically xeroxes a previous work(s)... Then another writer xeroxes that... and another... until the quality deteriorates too much.

@MgelikaXevi

2 ай бұрын

exactly. They are boring and chronically online. They are web-dwellers who think that reddit or Uni made them into "writers". But unlike real writers who can share life experience, knowledge, ideas and their observations, these guys can only share with you the same beat-up dictionary and "jokes", that you have seen thousands of times.

I hate self-aware jokes, I hate meta jokes, I hate games based on LA culture, I hate modern social commentary. My main takeaway from this: I hate millennial writing.

@FerdarPleaseSubscribe

Жыл бұрын

I-I... yikes, you sweet summer child there's a lot to unpack here. Who hurt you baby?

@jackstraw4222

Жыл бұрын

i hate it as well, thats why i dont watch any current shows on tv nor have i for years....but its also in commercials and music channels and that makes it even worse....

@xx-fz2ll

Жыл бұрын

Meta jokes aren't bad it's just people forget the "subvert expectations" part of comedy like if u took 2 seconds to think of what the punchline is then you've figured it out it's only good when done properly... Shame it never is

@georgeschmall9254

Жыл бұрын

GTA San Andreas and IV were great though

@arthurpietrogarcia1057

Жыл бұрын

I don't hate this types of jokes normaly, Animaniacs(the original show) has all of this yet its Still Just as funny as silent cartoons.

The scene in Saints Row 3 where they rob a bank dressed in their own merchandise and Johnny Gat is wearing a mask of his own head to hide his identity is a more nuanced critique of capitalism than every single line about capitalism in the new game put together

@vinegar4556

Жыл бұрын

Same goes for the second game, with Dane Vogel. Not exactly subtle, but still manages to say so much more without ever having to explicitly call it out.

@ngmajora6986

Жыл бұрын

@@vinegar4556 Saints 2 is literally a game about gentrification and a ton of other shit and handles it with significantly more nuance than nu saints ever could

@Pragabond

Жыл бұрын

@Antonio Gramsci I agree it should've been taught to blue collar workers instead. That's kind of the people who benefit from it the most and really the backbone to any meaningful change when it comes to working people being treated better. Which is also why its the most important group to keep uninterested in it because the only people talking about it are the complete opposite of them. People who want to sound smart more than they want to talk to a person like a person. No mechanic, no landscaper, no framer, no electrician I've ever met is going to be convinced by: "No you don't understand. Grasping the inherently exploitative nature of late stage capitalism and the class struggle between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie is vital to achieving class consciousness and retaking the means of production for the working class. You need to look at the imperialist cultural hegemony with a critical lens to free yourself from the WAGE SLAVERY INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM." "Cool thanks I am wildly not fucking interested in anything you said" "BUT DIACLECTIC MATERIALISM. LABOR THEORY OF VALUE. P R A X I S." It would be super helpful if people stopped talking about this shit entirely by smelling their own farts and hoping the other guy digs the smell too.

@thegrim418

Жыл бұрын

@@Pragabond That's the issue though. The entire idea was made by lazy educated people who believed they were part of the lower classes because they weren't successful. This is why it always devolves into bloody chaos. Because it isn't about the poor being treated better, it's about causing enough discontent to get people to overthrow the existing structure so the upper middle class revolutionaries can seize power and promptly push their pawns back into their places.

@nopenope2550

Жыл бұрын

@@Pragabond There are ways to critique capitalism (which is just the communist scare word for the free market, but let's not get bogged down in that) without being anti-capitalist. I'm from the blue collar background you're referencing and I have plenty of critiques of our system, wealth inequality being a serious issue for instance, but that doesn't make me an anti-capitalist. Anti-capitalism isn't ever going to appeal to people like me because it's inherently a white collar ideology created by ivory tower freaks who've never done an honest day's work in their life. Pseudo-intellectualism isn't a bug of the ideology, it's a feature, and not even that we don't understand what terms like Praxis or Materialism mean either. We just don't care. We're not revolutionaries nor do we want to be. We just want to be fairly compensated for our work and left alone, that's it.

I feel like it's not a feature of Millennials, but a feature of the culture of big cities. I just don't encounter Millennials outside major cities who talk like or write like this. This video is the first time I've ever heard "The bar is on the floor". But I've had some big city roommates and this was just their thing. My favorite millennial thing is the constant talking about how great "exposed brick" is. I'm a Zillenial, brick's fine.

@egoalter1276

4 ай бұрын

Fired brick is the prettiest architectural material in existence and dont you dare dispute it.

@johnmcphee9439

3 ай бұрын

@@egoalter1276 Greek marble man, I don't think it beats that.

@shockmaster0792

2 ай бұрын

I see zillenial and I can only think of godzilla

@WonnieNoR

2 ай бұрын

It’s weird being in between zoomed and millennial. I understand the criticism of both but also see the other side of it.

@ingold1470

2 ай бұрын

Do they actually like that writing style in those places? Maybe this is a symptom of the Internet connecting places that are so culturally distant from one another that they might as well be separate nations.

You forgot THE most common millenial writing trope: contrasting the threat level of an animal with its name. E.g. It'll be a cute kitten whos name is 'Dark Lord Balzarah' - Or it'll be a large scary monster whose name is 'Fluffykins'.

@yambuh3247

5 ай бұрын

Pitbull named "princess"

@moreplease998

5 ай бұрын

Nah. That's an old thing. People were using that kind of humour back in the 80s

@umwha

5 ай бұрын

@@moreplease998 Yes maybe it began earlier but it sure has kept around in millennial writing and tumble posts.

@pugasaurusrex8253

5 ай бұрын

@@yambuh3247 5 yr old named Solomon

@alexlewis5365

5 ай бұрын

People don't understand that there's a time and place for everything. Millenial humor can work in a few places, like the internet. But when it comes to more serious media (like video games), keep that under wraps, except maybe in rare occasions where it'll actually fit.

“You’re really good at that! Shooting things, that is.” This line right here exemplifies Millennial writing. Rick and Morty is like this too. I finally have word for this, thank you.

@Sorrowdusk

Жыл бұрын

Rick and Morty was better at it though. The thing is you can't just imitate things. You've gotta actually do something original.

@Skelterbane69

Жыл бұрын

I realize I often talk like that...... I feel like such a douche

@harambe4267

Жыл бұрын

@@Sorrowdusk Rick and Morty isn't exactly the pinnacle of comedy either. It is the millennial humor before it got out of hand and spilled over everywhere.

@sayorikeychains1847

Жыл бұрын

High on Life basically encapsulates everything wrong with Millenial writing in the worst way possible

@astronemir

Жыл бұрын

@@Skelterbane69 you’re not a douche you just consume too much similar content by these writers or online in comments/twitter

to quote warren spector (director of deus ex) about politics in video games: “Some years ago, I gave a talk at The New School in New York and afterwards did something I never do - went out for drinks with folks who’d been in the audience. At the bar, one of them sat down next to me (he was a little drunk) and asked ‘how could you make that right-wing piece of propaganda?’. Before I could answer, another guy walked up and, having overheard, said ‘right-wing propaganda? It was left-wing from start to finish!” The fact is, they were both right I guess, based on how they’d played. I was really tickled by that.”

@Don-ds3dy

Жыл бұрын

Its almost depressing what some people consider "left wing" or "right wing" these days.

@residentkrockhead

Жыл бұрын

@@Don-ds3dy to me it’s even more depressing that people consider these terms insults in and of themselves. They are two sides of the political coin. There is evil on both sides but most people on either spectrum of belief are not extremists at all

@residentkrockhead

Жыл бұрын

@Antonio Gramsci yes because societies on the right are the only societies to utilize segregation…are you kidding me? And America invented slavery too, right?

@morningwoody4514

Жыл бұрын

@Antonio Gramsci Jesus Christ, shut up.

@K0sm1cKid

Жыл бұрын

@Antonio Gramsci >Guy who has never had a genuine conversation with a conservative in their life.

Joss Whedon ruined a generation.

@WednesdayFin86

22 күн бұрын

Buffy was good.

@OptimisticSturmtruppen

12 күн бұрын

​​@@WednesdayFin86Buffy sounds so funny, haha!

I think you’ve forgotten another key social media platform that contributes to millennial brainrot: Reddit

@youngc570

22 күн бұрын

Much worse than tiktok.

@dejanjakobovic9803

20 күн бұрын

​@@youngc570both are just as bad as each other IMO. Reddit encourages mob mentality and circlejerking while TikTok fries your dopamine receptors.

@blok--head7472

8 күн бұрын

Reddit should just be abolished.

@RusticFarmhouse_54

2 күн бұрын

​@@dejanjakobovic9803reddit is just 4chan in a mask

“they do these political things, not because they have anything to say, but because they think they need to say something.” perfectly describes this trend.

@wezerd

10 ай бұрын

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." -Plato

@DevineInnovations

10 ай бұрын

Because talking about politics makes them feel smart. Just like violence and swearing makes them feel mature.

@volundrfrey896

10 ай бұрын

The funniest thing about it that they often pick "capitalism" to be the political boogie man. But they don't really understand what capitalism is so half the time they defend it half the time they oppose it. They just throw in some post-modern political terms to hope people will be too confused to understand that they don't know what they're talking about, because it works on them on twitter.

@End3rDJgaming

10 ай бұрын

It comes from schooling. Along with intersectionality, they started teaching that saying nothing is agreeing with the status quo. So unless you wanna be the bad guy, you have to actively talk about how much you hate them and want progress. 's pretty fucked if you think about it.

@BigWheel.

10 ай бұрын

@@End3rDJgaming I've always resented that notion and think people who follow it are unintelligent.

The popularisation of dead pool humour and laugh tracks has done irreparable damage to society

@B_C1109

11 ай бұрын

Yes, blame an actually funny character for society's bad humour now.

@aidanandreasen2611

11 ай бұрын

What's funny about that association is that laugh tracks have actually declined in popularity. I think Deadpool-style meta humor is closer to a current generation replacement for what would once have been a laugh track.

@nosleepgang3771

11 ай бұрын

@@aidanandreasen2611 yeah I was mostly critiquing Big Bang theory which I think is one of the more recent shows that beat the laugh track to death and back

@nosleepgang3771

11 ай бұрын

@@B_C1109 dead pool is a great film but I think too many people thought they could finesse the deadpool humour in their own content and it falls really flat

@Shin_Mothra

11 ай бұрын

​@Mirage Funny the first time, maybe.

I really despise the whole "all art is political" and "all games are political by nature" followed by "saying nothing implies you're defending the status quo" which is an intellectual impasse...

@atpyro7920

4 ай бұрын

It's a logical fallacy used by terminally online morons who want to preach their ideology and not get pushback (while also trying to browbeat people who don't want to make instant judgement into joining 'their' side)

@segenshin1894

4 ай бұрын

The way i see it, I do partially agree with the idea that non political storying also perpetuates the status quo. However, i also believe that that's completely fine, when the author had no intention to challenge or advocate any political beliefs in the first place.

@valletas

4 ай бұрын

Whats is funny is a lot of media that people say has "nothing to say" actually has messages in the story they just dont spun feed you the message Like one piece for exemple you arent gonna find events directly relating to real world events or anything like that but the entire thing has a big anti facist message on it that just goes over people heads

@MachineMan-mj4gj

3 ай бұрын

@@segenshin1894 I'm sick of people acting like the status quo is so bad. Stick with the devil you know guys, changing it could bring about something worse.

@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778

3 ай бұрын

@@MachineMan-mj4gjThey are progressives, They want to change the status quo to go further to their ideology, that's why they hate the status quo and want constant change.

Speaking as a 30-something year-old, it's because there's a view on sincerity and commitment as a weakness at the fundamental level. There's no fundamental innateness that you have in the connections between people. You can look at the trends of writing by looking at the trends of fanfiction writers and it's like the writers assign people this innate numerical value and mask the characters they want to protect in layers upon layers of detachment. Then when they get more grammatically sound and expand their vocabulary, you see that that detachment, that lack of intangibility, permeates into writing. Millennials are terrified of being judged for who they are; it's basically a culture-wide Eminem solution - "I will point out my flaws and laugh before you can get to me". Which works as a self-defense mechanism to an extent, but makes for very poor points of emotional expansion. Ironically, there is one area where this does not apply: politics. For SOME FUCKING REASON.

@foxboy6145

Ай бұрын

For some reason, I got to thinking of those verbose memes where, as the text got more verbose, the image with it got progressively worse.

@mdtisthebest6249

Ай бұрын

You’re not owed sincerity

@asellandrofacchio7263

8 күн бұрын

Lol very true.

Politics in Metal Gear Solid: "The military industrial complex is a disaster for human rights, and one of the worst things to happen to the world. War is horrendous, and it's being marketed as a good thing" Politics in Millennial games from multi-billion dollar corporations: "Capitalism is bad, and racism is bad" *features a microtransaction shop, a literal token black character, and a season pass in a single player game*

@diablow1411

9 ай бұрын

Exactly my gripe with "modern" games.

@evanabbott2737

9 ай бұрын

Perfectly said.👍

@Dogy0909

9 ай бұрын

There’s a good tumblr post about Kojima that he created a brilliant series to comment on the horrors of war but ended up making everything look super cool as well because he has the mind of a 12 year old boy who thinks guns are cool

@adamiadamiadami

9 ай бұрын

@@Dogy0909 That's the cognitive dissonance of the videogame media. It's fun to virtually point and shoot, unfortunately. I wouldn't put too much blame on that, however the symbolic/subconscious effect it has on people who play games is a bad thing - that's why the military industrial complex loves CoD. If I were a gamedev like him I think I simply wouldn't make games that involve shooting people, but that's a way to solve the issue.

@user-gt7vi9jm9m

9 ай бұрын

The difference is a side usually was not taken and both sides are heard in mgs.

This generation is like what Monsters Inc would look like if the monsters all had to mine cringe to power their infrastructure instead of screams.

@garmmermibe5397

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit, lmaoooo!

@mrjohnnyk

Жыл бұрын

Made me lol

@donweatherwax9318

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that actually happened. That's what John "Hugs Not Drugs!" Lasseter was warning us about in _Monsters, Inc.._ But we didn't listen, and now we're paying the price.

@Winasaurus

Жыл бұрын

"This one's not giving us any juice!" "Don't destroy the door, get him a twitter account!"

@fojisan2398

Жыл бұрын

If they had to harness cringe then the Monsters Inc universe would be a utopia.

Gen Z here. Im so sick of irony poisoning literally every piece of media. Wish writers could be sincere even if its high concept or absurd

@MGrey-qb5xz

3 ай бұрын

stay in school kid

@AugustCrossroads

3 ай бұрын

​could be in his late 20s@@MGrey-qb5xz

@dejanjakobovic9803

3 ай бұрын

​@@MGrey-qb5xzeven the youngest zoomers are in their mid-teens now, so I'd assume he is in his 20s.

@TakonumeroII

2 ай бұрын

​@@dejanjakobovic9803 Youngest Zoomers have between 9-12 years old

@dejanjakobovic9803

2 ай бұрын

​@@TakonumeroII 2012 was 12 years ago as of writing this reply. Gen Alpha started in 2010. This makes the youngest Zoomers around 14-15 years old.

I started to pick up on this recently with how people write out their stutter. It's really annoying to read but they will write out something like, "did-did anybody else see that?"

@JDoe-gf5oz

4 ай бұрын

Overuse of the ellipsis is bad too. "That's not...how any of this works at all! Jinkies!"

@billjacobs521

3 ай бұрын

@@JDoe-gf5oz Not just overuse, but outright abuse. I see....people who write....their....posts like this....and it's....the only punctuation....they use. And yes, I used 4 periods because they screw that up too.

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

3 ай бұрын

@@billjacobs521 Holy shit I know exactly what you’re talking about, cos reading your post made me irrationally angry. I hate when people abuse ellipses.

@ronnieradon

Ай бұрын

This is probably the weakest one so far. I saw this shit in chat rooms ages ago all the time.

@unimportantcommenter4356

Ай бұрын

Stutters are a fine way to diegetically express emotions, such as surprises, fears, bafflements etc. The key for proper usage is a fitting context and moderate usage. And don't think the "I-" comment enders don't boil my blood too.

"Write what you know" works best when people actually know things

@Nukestarmaster

Жыл бұрын

lol

@Remington934

Жыл бұрын

Then I dread the time when Gen Z humor is prévalant

@MidlifeCrisisJoe

Жыл бұрын

Yeah all the old writers who tossed out that advice presumed people would live lives of struggle and meaning, not basically do nothing but look at social media all day. They really could not have foreseen just how dark the future ended up.

@LegendaryP-sl7gf

Жыл бұрын

@@MidlifeCrisisJoe Another "social media bad" comment 😒

@omlo9093

Жыл бұрын

I genuinely loathe these hack writers.

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. - C.S Lewis

@mrjohnnyk

Жыл бұрын

Always loved that quote, it's spot on.

@spoovyfrog3393

Жыл бұрын

lmao, wise quote but that guy still contradicted himself

@nocunt

Жыл бұрын

@@spoovyfrog3393 in this context, "critics" is not the creator itself, but it is for the part of the video which describes the millennials, twitter users etc. in the need to feel like they're grown up. I may have misunderstood your point but that is my answer to the statement if any. did you mean that C.S Lewis contradicted himself? shreddednerd or I?

@thedukeofchutney468

Жыл бұрын

@@spoovyfrog3393Uh how? There wasn’t anything contradictory in what he was saying. If you constantly act like something being “adult” is cool then you reveal yourself to be rather childish. It’s along the same lines of logic as: “If a man must say I am king, then he is no king at all.”

@incidentlyaniguana2193

Жыл бұрын

​@The Duke of Chutney I think the contradiction would be that the purpose of the statement is to criticise the critics for being childish. Which, by his own logic, implies his childishness.

My favorite millenial writing phrase is "Well, that just happened"

You see, the main writer of Deus Ex actually read books and wrote books and for The New York Times. Throughout Deus Ex you can find numerous snippets and references to real books. When the guy wrote China as being controlled by the mafia, the Chinese preferring that to the dictatorship of the Illuminati and ultimately faced JC (and the player) with the inevitable decision to side with the mafia (even though it goes against JC's morality) and later on to replace them with an AI; he was showing nuance because he understood the whole point is that there was no "right" side on that particular story because it was merely exploring ideas in a dystopic setting. The 30-something that wrote "ugh, capitalism am I right?" on the other hand is making a political statement. That's as far as his political views go because xe has never read a single book on xer life besides (maybe) Harry Potter and (maybe) overviews of mandatory highschool/college literature to make half-assed reports. These writers are stupid and completely empty of any real ideas. All they think they know comes from social media and political talking heads. They latch onto whatever stupid idea is gaining traction and assume it is inherently good because they have the mental capacity of an 11-year old and see the world as good vs evil. They're just fucking incompetent.

@stoogel

4 ай бұрын

Seems like they just aren't hiring good writers now.

@TiodaniPKM

3 ай бұрын

This ties in with the final message of the video. When you're chronically online is easier for your artistic output to be shallow. These new writers should just plug out and actually broaden their horizons, outside of internet content.

@ajasilikonreffkmimmon

3 ай бұрын

Anime Director/Writer Mamoru Oshii is a good example of writing politics without paints the other side as a mindless moron.

@AppleJacksCereal

3 ай бұрын

@@stoogelyup. There’s lots of good writers out there who actually read and don’t write to inject their manifesto into everything. Industry doesn’t want them

@motymurm

3 ай бұрын

Xe lmao

I love how you referenced Twitter and even 4chan, but you completely ignored the biggest elephant in the room; Reddit. The problem is that everyone wants to be the funny guy. If everyone is the funny guy, then no one is the funny guy.

@cheesegreater5739

Жыл бұрын

ThIs PosT RiGht HerE OffIcER

@mr.peanutbutter6969

Жыл бұрын

@Cheese Greater it wasn't me. It was the one armed man.

@goobles3991

Жыл бұрын

Pretty self righteous to think humor needs to be in short supply. It's not like a superpower which the original quote you referenced from The Incredibles is talking about (which btw is extremely redditor of you). I'm sure a ton of people can make you laugh, they're just not good writers. Conveying a humorous situation is what makes a comedian different from your hilarious friend. Reddit is terrible because there's no originality. I'm sure the first "this post right here officer" or "THIS SO MUCH THIS" was infinitely less cringe than the 5 trillionth time it was posted.

@mr.peanutbutter6969

Жыл бұрын

@Goobles I wasn't saying reddit is a good place. I'm saying that's where you can find a lot of this cringe humor

@SirSaladAss

Жыл бұрын

@@goobles3991 Quoting The Incredibles is as far from Reddit-friendly as can be. That movie was inspired by Ayn Rand's books, and she's like the Antichrist for redditors.

>degree in English >butchers English on daily basis Can't make this up.

@SNC2319

Жыл бұрын

Me fail English? That’s unpossible.

@astarteswillum5259

Жыл бұрын

An F in English? Bobby, you speak English.

@Nehfarius

Жыл бұрын

Probably got that degree from a box of gluten-free Cereal(tm).

@brutusthebear9050

Жыл бұрын

What do you think modern English degrees teach? Not how to use English, but rather that any way of using English is equally correct. Except the correct way, because that implies you are better than others.

@blitzstrk0

Жыл бұрын

@Brutus the Bear I imagine it teaches rhetoric or newspeak if I might make a tasteless reference to Orwell.

The issue with this kind of writing is that everyone treats art like it needs to reflect your moral virtue whether you create it or consume it.

i like that you mentioned that it's just as much californian as it is millenial. i tried to get into the sims 4 a while back and i was repulsed by how... californian it is

@polskabalaclava

4 ай бұрын

Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that

@AppleJacksCereal

3 ай бұрын

Bro I’m playing right now and I was wondering why everyone there is a hipster lol.

@polskabalaclava

3 ай бұрын

@@AppleJacksCereal ikr

@wojakthecrusader1410

2 ай бұрын

Bro play the sims 2 or the sims 3 away from politic and propaganda.

@user-dn1iw8eo3q

Ай бұрын

They just made a new expansion pack and it's fucking healing crystals/astrology themed, I'm so done with this game

This modern writing reminds me of how 2000's Nickelodeon sitcoms were written. Everything is said with a quip on top of layers of sarcasm. Characters will sometimes just yell and the humor often relied on being weird instead of being funny. Only thing is, shows like iCarly and Victorious are meant for children in elementary school. All of the games that take this form of writing are M rated games intended for adults.

@rachelmayes3064

Жыл бұрын

The kids raised on that grew up.

@alrightsquinky7798

Жыл бұрын

Good point. Thank God I never watched those shows. Even me as a kid thought they looked weird.

@HighLifeProds17

Жыл бұрын

These people probably never learned that that wasn't how other people actually talked in real life, they themselves being "keyboard warriors" and all...

@-lord1754

Жыл бұрын

@@alrightsquinky7798 I was forced to watch it cause of my sister ive always hated it lol

@stockinganarchy4720

Жыл бұрын

glad i grew up on south park and gta lmao (never thought i'd say this)

"Whether they themselves are infantile" Adults being manchildren really is the unspoken epidemic facing society.

@DeadPixel1105

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I am so sick and tired of seeing grown men who still get hyped about shit that is intended for children. A group of guys in their 30s: "Dude, that new Mario game looks sick!" "Yeah, but what about that new Sonic game? That looks good." "Speaking of Sonic, I wish they'd put him in Smash Bros!" "Well, Pikachu is in Smash Bros. That's cool." "Dude, I LOVE Pikachu! I can't wait to play that new Pokemon game!!!" "DUDE! I KNOW! I'M SOOOO HYPED!!!" It's so fucking weird. I know I shouldn't judge people, but this is simply pathetic. When I grew into my teens, I naturally stopped caring about the shit I was into as a little kid. I didn't force myself to stop liking children's entertainment. I just naturally grew out of that stuff. But grown men these days. I don't know what happened to their minds. They're stuck in this state of mental childishness. It's so weird.

@quademasters249

Жыл бұрын

The question to as is why they become man-children. The answer I believe is that modern life has no real meaning. No weight. Fight club pointed it out. "“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. " This is why so many men see no reason to become adults. It's just empty.

@adamcaldwell5646

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadPixel1105 what do you do for fun then?

@bleeem

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadPixel1105 But games liek Mario, Sonic and Pokemon are childhood classic for many, i dont get hyped for any of them even though i played them when i was a child, some people will get hyped because its a part of their childhood, from time to time my dad still pops a cartoon he used to watch with me in my childhood because he genuinly likes them and finds them more interesting than his repetitive cop show he watches to fall asleep. This idea that adults need to like adults thing aka live a miserable life is retarded, if more adults would actually play games to pass their time instead of sitting there in a sofa and spending 6 hours a day just watching mind numbing boring TV shows, they could have been playing a more engaging and fun game, because video games have surpassed TV shows and blockbusters in terms of quality for about 20 years.

@CrizzyEyes

Жыл бұрын

@@quademasters249 That itself is a bit of an immature take. I'm not sure how you think that life isn't worth living unless you are a rock star, movie god, or millionaire.

“It feels like these stories only represent the experiences of young, wealthy, inner city tech people from coastal cities of America.” Thank you so much for pointing this out. I moved to a coastal city from one of those (apparently) hellish small towns of America to work in the entertainment industry, and so much “representation” we see in writing is just an echo chamber of people who don’t even realize how wealthy they are. They’re too busy shitting on less fortunate, less developed areas and blindly spewing stereotypes to even realize how little representation those lives ever get and how important they are.

jeez, someone just took a thing that's been bothering me for about 6 years and put it into words. Thank you

@DSPsWifesBf

3 ай бұрын

It’s refreshing to hear this because a lot of times if you bring it up you’re either called a boomer or a bigot

@VelvetMagician

2 ай бұрын

@@DSPsWifesBfExactly

I forget who it was who said it, but the quote "Nerd culture becoming mainstream has had disastrous consequences on western society" has stuck with me for a while

@reformedbroski8988

Жыл бұрын

Fax.

@DonVigaDeFierro

Жыл бұрын

Nerd and punk have been appropriated by bullies and bootlickers.

@ShatteringKatana

Жыл бұрын

Turns out things were better when nerds were losers, and I say that to my own detriment

@therealspeedwagon1451

Жыл бұрын

I remember the days when nerds and anime fans were bullied relentlessly, and I yearn for the day we can go back. And I say this as someone who really used to be into anime and was a social outcast, maybe that’s just me being a masochist though.

@internetgodlilbihh

Жыл бұрын

@@therealspeedwagon1451 I'm more of a hipster and hate seeing things I felt like was niche become popular

Man I sure do love everyone being a bitter 20-30 something urban millennial who lives in San Francisco, really gives immersion.

@horsemumbler1

Жыл бұрын

Millennials are all 30+ now.

@wizajn

Жыл бұрын

That would be 30-40. Millennials are old now.

@apuffin9545

Жыл бұрын

20 year olds do not talk like that

@sunsetman22

Жыл бұрын

@@wizajn in their own mind they're not

@pieterwillembotha6719

Жыл бұрын

20-somethings are zoomers you clown

i always called it reddit writting

Brian Griffin writing

@Hexarth

3 ай бұрын

funniest comment

"It feels like these stories only represent the experiences of young, wealthy inner-city tech people from the coastal cities of America." Exactly. That's the whole issue right there. It's an out-of-touch, self rightious, circlejerk perpetuated by a privileged isolation from everyone else.

@Sabamonster

Жыл бұрын

Well articulated and incredibly accurate.

@d.d.7720

Жыл бұрын

Privaledged?

@grandevirtude9830

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, i just think that the majority of public is from these metropolis, like video games doesn't target Nigerian Radish Farmers

@jaretnegron6809

Жыл бұрын

Not just that, but maybe more specifically, "Hollywood" writing, written from one bubble of California

@Sabamonster

Жыл бұрын

@@grandevirtude9830 It might not target Nigerian Radish Farmers but the majority of people in general terms, do not reside in high-society suburban homes on the outskirts of San Francisco. They live amongst celebrities and things of that nature and are heavily influenced by that culture, which basically means they are detached from reality as far as the "common person" is concerned.

As Tom Waits said: “the world is a hellish place, and bad writing is ruining the quality of our suffering.”

@discipleofdagon8195

Жыл бұрын

Is he still waiting??

@brookspn

Жыл бұрын

@@discipleofdagon8195 lol, presumably.

@Strider258

2 ай бұрын

The earth died screaming…about capitalism and carbon foot print. That’s why God’s away on business.

@eeyorehaferbock7870

2 ай бұрын

@@Strider258ironically, carbon footprint is something that could destroy us eventually if we let it. (Note: throwing soup on classic works of art does probably fall under “letting it happen”.)

Oh man, I remember writing for kids shows started becoming like this on both Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon at the same time (the humor specifically). Was very strange seeing it happen across all these different shows out of the blue.

@wesleywatson2009

4 ай бұрын

Felt like this happened after adventure time and regular show

@mr.cuddlesworth3144

3 ай бұрын

​@@wesleywatson2009Adventure Time started to get that type of writing after season 3 when the writer was changed. That's why I believe there were only ever 3 seasons to Adventure Time.

@yoshimina4551

2 ай бұрын

Examples of shows? Im not trying to sound like a smartass, Im just curious.

@fortunamajor7239

2 ай бұрын

​@@yoshimina4551 i havent watched CN in a hot minute but i remember shows like gumball, adventure time, steven universe veering into that territory a few seasons into their tenure

Here's how you fix it: STOP BUYING THEIR SLOP

this is a major reason why whenever a piece of entertainment shows any traces of good writing it's hailed as a 10/10 masterpiece.

@NicEeEe843

9 ай бұрын

People are starved for talent

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

9 ай бұрын

A drop of water for the thirsty masses...

@mrszmatan2727

8 ай бұрын

Sometimes all it needs are good graphic representations tbh, that's what happens often for movies or animated shows. Writing might be dogshit and generic but as long as it looks cool 20 iq amebas will love it, and they are millions

@ricovisscher5010

8 ай бұрын

like Billy Joel said: "I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary."

@inendlesspain4724

8 ай бұрын

"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"

I disagree with Twitter being the genesis of “Millennial Writing.” I worked in game development before Twitter’s rise and had to endure insufferable Californian hipsters that spewed that awful snark from the narrative teams. Writers were often spoiled Millennials with a fancy degree from some overpriced Californian university. They all acted like uppity hipsters and many of the devs started becoming passive-aggressive around that time as well (2007-2014). All of our media and creative industries have been infiltrated and hijacked by these obnoxious cnts. It REALLY makes it difficult to enjoy hobbies I once loved. No wonder there has been such a renaissance in retro-gaming these past years.

@elisehalflight

Жыл бұрын

And indies, don't forget about those!

@drunkencowboyagni

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and don't think foreign games are safe. The translators are doing the same shit. No end in sight either.

@ChangedWinds

Жыл бұрын

@@drunkencowboyagni Me: enjoying an online game cause it's kinda fun and both my child and I can play it together. My child: Xinyan should've been more darker skinned Even casual foreign games with a half way decent plot are getting the nu-American writing style treatment

@theobell2002

Жыл бұрын

@@ChangedWinds What the hell is the "un-American writing style treatment"?

@b1ackgamma

Жыл бұрын

you might be on to something, remember ad's that would target teen that tried to relate? those ads are cringe because it use millennial writing

Its basically the CalArts art style but in written form

@fortunamajor7239

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

Oh my god, someone who brought up the stupid over use of “decent human being” like they don’t know the word “person”. It’s beyond irritating to read it in any comment section usually 20 or more times.

@eeyorehaferbock7870

2 ай бұрын

“Lisa lahves yu tu. As a person. As a humin bean.” -Johnny (Tommy Wiseau), The Room

@mechadeka

14 күн бұрын

You're a wonderful human being, Jabba.

@PopeCromwell

13 күн бұрын

A real hero. A real human being.

The sentence "tommy needy drinky" really changed my entire life

@JDoe-gf5oz

10 ай бұрын

Makes you think, doesn't it?

@johns1625

10 ай бұрын

You can tell that Tom makes a lot of terrible puns followed by "I'll see myself out"

@BurgertubeFounder

10 ай бұрын

Me needy to be tommy.

@josephgarfield3363

9 ай бұрын

Took years off my life

@TheVnator

9 ай бұрын

I haven't finished watching the video yet, and that line sounds like something from Rugrats. Please tell me it's from Rugrats Edit: It's not

Normal people after having a bad day: "Fucking hell this day sucked" Millennials: "OH FUCKY WUCKY SUCKY"

@DonVigaDeFierro

9 ай бұрын

"Must... Write... Only quotable... Dialogue!!!!!"

@manictiger

9 ай бұрын

Mainly the millenial urbanite left. But, yeah, I suppose when I think about how many people my age I actually consider more than just target practice in the upcoming war... Hmm... Yeah, this generation sucks. Never mind, carry on. Want to know the worst part? The economy relies on the youth. If the youth are useless and net-negative, literal oxygen thieves, then... RIP economy. RIP boomers that need productivity to fund their social security and pensions.

@MortemRex

9 ай бұрын

Lmfao

@Ckoz2829

9 ай бұрын

@@manictiger Good one! Reads just like millennial writing!

@jackd9375

9 ай бұрын

@@manictigerthis is crazy

This style of humor makes me think Jar Jar Binks was their favorite character growing up

@Daralexen

Ай бұрын

@MandelbrotMetalhead Ironically, Jar Jar Binks is better written and less annoying than most millennial written characters.

These millennial writers have taken over everything....Movies,Games,TV....They write for a non existent "modern audiences" They are being (literally) promoted by powerful corporations not on the basis of skills but on ideology.

This is 100% a result of being terminally online. This is something I've noticed in practically everything. Hirohiko Araki (JoJo writer) wrote a book about how he writes manga and one thing that always stuck with me is that he mentions "he always take references from real life". If hes going to write about Italy he researches it, he goes there, has experiences and interactions. That was years ago, but for creators these days its not like that. If you've been steeped in your hobbies (video games, comics, the types of media were you see this decline) chances are you dont make a lot of time for living your real life. They end up emulating what they see and every generation past the original ends up as some kind of emulation of its predecessor. It ends up so far removed from what it originally was supposed to be that its unrecognizable. Being steeped in the culture of only your college, your friend group, or your discord server is going to ruin your grasp on whats truly enjoyable and leave you with what you've shaped your brain into enjoying.

@ChunkyWaterisReal

10 ай бұрын

*laughs in the byproduct of iterative design*

@MonkasHoode

10 ай бұрын

"The fourth stage is pure simulacrum, in which the simulacrum has no relationship to any reality whatsoever. Here, signs merely reflect other signs and any claim to reality on the part of images or signs is only of the order of other such claims. This is a regime of total equivalency, where cultural products need no longer even pretend to be real in a naïve sense, because the experiences of consumers' lives are so predominantly artificial that even claims to reality are expected to be phrased in artificial, "hyperreal" terms. Any naïve pretension to reality as such is perceived as bereft of critical self-awareness, and thus as oversentimental."

@lemmy154

10 ай бұрын

Meh

@AllyMonsters

10 ай бұрын

No, this is 100% Joss Whedons fault.

@mihalekhale2590

10 ай бұрын

this quote is about anime but it sums up your statement "The problem with the anime industry is that it's full of anime fans" ~hayao miyazaki

"Get this .... shes a woman but shes TOUGH and she SWEARS all the time 😌😌😌"

@yetmoregaming3441

Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed High on Life. I thought the gameplay was fun but the writing got really old, really quick. I would actively avoid using Sweezy, the vulgar woman gun, because she was so over-the-top crass and swearing nonstop. That really isn't funny or endearing if you're not being self-aware about it. I don't mind swearing in the proper context, but it reminds me of middle school when I think someone is cursing just to look cool or tough.

@Skin_Man

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think the issue is while it would have been subversive, say, twenty years ago, now it's so common that it's bland, tiring, and uninspired. The subversion has become the norm.

@jefferyandbob3137

Жыл бұрын

@@Skin_Man and the people doing it still think they’re being smart and subversion, somehow

@Grandmaster-Kush

Жыл бұрын

My peanut sized mind = *Blown*

@jart1984

Жыл бұрын

bravo vince, hire this guy to write on all of our productions

If vivziepop wrote borderland

Joss Whedon ruined a whole generation of writers.

I've notice this trend in not only games, but movies too. Every line has to be self-aware, witty, and ironic. Nobody takes anything seriously. It drives me insane.

@axiss5840

Жыл бұрын

The 'not taking seriously' is far and away my biggest pet peeve. Literally everything HAS to be sarcastic, because emotions are scary and we need you to have positive association with our product so you'll think it's good.

@krunkle5136

Жыл бұрын

@@axiss5840 so much this. It's truly a cultural cancer to have the irony throttle to the max all the fucking time. There needs to be poignant moments especially for characters or events the writer would least expect.

@taddonddat2217

Жыл бұрын

What makes this worse is that all it does is pull you out of the fictional world they're trying to present. A glorified SNL sketch is what the story and its world become.

@NgaMarsters

Жыл бұрын

Taking anything seriously is boring these days apparently I mean seriously try and get a streamer to take a story based game seriously. It's a sad truth that most gamers want dopamine rather that something thought-provoking But it's been that way forever You better get over it

@krunkle5136

Жыл бұрын

@@NgaMarsters people should still always try to be better. It's harder to be unironic while maintaining a certain tone. Yes there's the real trap of being pretentious etc, but avoiding that's the skill of it.

It's like the humor from the 2000s but threatening and passive agressive

@simplynotthere4726

Жыл бұрын

it's like the humor from the 2000s but worse in every way and not funny at all

@kevinkusman9137

Жыл бұрын

Culture, especially in the US, pretty much flatlined in the mid 2000s. For close to 20 years now, music, fashion and "Most" Comedy has either stagnated or is so bereft of any originality, its cringeworthy. In my opinion anyways...

@MajimaEnterprises

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinkusman9137 Idk. I was in my early teens in the mid 2000's and I would say it was still a pretty fun time to be alive. Personally, I feel like the 2010's (but specifically from 2012 onwards) is when everything went to sh!t. That's when the popular fashion, music, movies, games, etc, started feeling completely alien to me. The late 2010's were especially bad. It was to the point where nothing even felt real to me anymore.

@RecordedMercury

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully the humor in 20 years from now will just be threatening. Which is pretty funny. It's like the IP address meme thing but on steroids

@RecordedMercury

Жыл бұрын

@@dongorleone8322 cry about it or something lmfao

When he said "Maybe stop doing that problematic accent" I physically winced from cringe.

@Daralexen

Ай бұрын

The person who wrote that probably believes that United States accents are “normal accents.”

This is less about writing and more about corporations filling out checkboxes. They don't care if someone is a good writer, as long as they fulfill a certain trend that's popular with the kids these days.

How ironic is it for a large profitable company to design, develop, market, and sell a product that says "capitalism bad"

@contramachina354

Жыл бұрын

truly a mindfuck

@zachduperron8543

Жыл бұрын

It’s like Diet Coke or Coke Zero, it’s marketed to be “better” than regular Coca-Cola but in reality they are worse than regular Coca-Cola

@JonnyHorseman

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like they're being hypocrites on purpose and don't care when people "call them out" on it anymore.

@autokrator_

Жыл бұрын

i fucking love the corporate aestheticization of resistance. they simply just pick up the ideologies of people who never really grew up, horrifically mutilate them, and then fucking SELL it back to them for extortionate amounts of money. and the fuckers they sell it to eat it up like it's fried chicken. we wouldn't have half the number of soyjaks we do without this.

@WhiteManOnCampus

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty simple, honestly: communism is the best way to consolidate wealth and power while trapping everyone else in poverty and enslavement. These corporations are pushing communism not because they think it's a good system for their viewers, but because it's the best system for the wealthy to always remain in power: they're the Party leaders.

it’s simply insecurity deep down so they mask it with ten layers of irony and meta humor and shitty quips

@piotr78

Жыл бұрын

Insecurities and resentment

@amongersus2893

Жыл бұрын

What watching too much Rick and morty does to one’s brain

@mups4016

Жыл бұрын

In my experience it is indeed insecurity. There's this mental block of writing dialogue that's just straight to the point or genuine feelings/expressions because writing non-serious quips helps shield against the fear of mockery. This style of writing is like a bandaid for your ego from the inevitable criticism. "if these characters aren't serious, if i don't put any effort, then it won't matter when people don't like it." And then add an overdose of corporate cynicism and you get these.

@Dhips.

Жыл бұрын

I used to love meta humor, I still do in some ways, but it's been beat to death now.

@freelancerthe2561

Жыл бұрын

@@Dhips. Thats not the real problem. Like most comedy, its when a concept is reduced to its most superficial elements, stagnates due to a lack of understanding by those who use it as a substitute for creativity, that you end up with something becoming stagnant. Meta humor and deconstruction require a strong understanding of mechanics behind a given trope, as thats needed to twist it into a joke. Meta humor as its referred to today "self awareness", is just calling out a trope and never executing it. Or worse.... calling out the trope, and executing it anyway. Its the lack of creativity to do something with the idea that makes it grating. Another thing to consider is irreverence. Despite what the name might imply, its entirely possible to mock something in good humor/nature, while still firmly critiquing something about it. A reoccurring issue I'm noticing with the current generation of writers and commenters is tendency to take things very superficially, if not out right literally. Its hard to tell if this is lack of understanding of the subject matter, or a lack of consideration of deeper concepts, and stopping the first emotional reaction.

It's less Millennial writing and more "a small subset of terminally online Millennials" writing, combined with a lack of merit-based hiring practices. Edit: okay, you basically covered that later in the video.

“It feels like they were trying to make a political statement that they weren’t equipped to make” kinda sums up this entire societal issue.

@knightmareza9478

Ай бұрын

Genuinely though, i don't think anyone writing a book in their mid to late twenties, or younger, has lived enough to actually have any opinions on matters that are anywhere near fully formed. They're still children, but somehow they just get scooped up into an industry usually dominated by older, more experienced people who have lived enough and done enough to actually have a view and opinion worth hearing and pondering, even if you don't agree with it. I think part of the issue may well be that millenials are one of the first generations that grew up immersed in technology from a young age and easy access to their little bubbles that restrict their experience. I'm from a country well outside the US's normal sphere of influence, but young americans are so loud and all encompassing online that you'd swear they are the country in the world if you were terminally online. Some even consider it a second wave of colonization because of how far reaching the effect of californian hipster culture is on our culture and world view. People my age, millenials too mind you, know more about US politics and television than any local issue or party. It's frightening how all consuming that incessant loud broadcast of LA college kid culture is as far as southern africa. Therein lies the issue. If that minority was loud enough to basically copy it's values and ideas onto a whole nother continent, how much of an effect does it have on local teenagers and college aged people? Especially those with a lot of time on their hands and access to the internet? Is it any surprise that if this is the kind of culture and worldview that gets broadcasted abroad, that it completely molds the more online, inexperienced writers who use their small experience in their online social circle as a substitute for real understanding and experience of the world?

Another problem that i've noticed recently is the lack of a good frame of reference for writers. Back then most writers i knew were at least somewhat well read and experienced. Some were really deep into specific subjects too, like history, or a skill. Nowadays it feels like their whole view of everything is molded by their social bubble, Marvel movies and twitter politics.

@SnibsnBibs

Жыл бұрын

I saw another comment talking about how the old "write what you know" saying was cooked up during a time when people still actually had a decent chance at living varied lives of struggle and drive. It's very true, "write what you know" is actually more of a detriment when applied to people who basically just lounge around smoking weed and scrolling around Twitter and watching generic Marvel film 447.

@Roosterboi21

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. I think that is why most new content is just a bad copy of something that was already popular. It would be like writing a time travel movie and only using Back to the Future as your reference point. Sure you could piece something passable together but you would be missing out on the countless other science fiction works on the subject.

@bake-io1cf

11 ай бұрын

mIyazaki often talked about this in regards of anime. All the golden age animators came from a wide background, were being inspired by other mediums, studied real life, were reading a lot of literature and then made up all the innovation in the anime industry with what they gathered. The new generation only consumes anime and only studies anime, it doesn't are about the real world or other art that isnt anime so the result as he puts it is inhuman, is regurgitating the same things in an incestual cicle but with less soul each time.

@SnibsnBibs

11 ай бұрын

@@bake-io1cf It even applies to the anime industry? Damn. It's gotta be true though, I remember a lot of the most influential ones usually had creators with some pretty interesting backgrounds (or pretty horrific, depending on, you know... how old they are...)

@bake-io1cf

11 ай бұрын

@@SnibsnBibs Anime is not at all what it was when i was younger. Moe slice of life took over everything since. I'd say the golden age was late 80s to late 90s, most of the greatest creators from that time have died or retired (R.I.P Satoshi Kon and Kentaro Miura) . Expect all anime from now on to be rotoscoped/ motion captured CG and AI bullshit.

I’m sick of seeing cringey millennial quips and baby talk and annoying trends everywhere. It really annoys me and pisses me off

@deriznohappehquite

Жыл бұрын

What being childless does to a MF.

@sintheemptyone8108

Жыл бұрын

I'm honestly more sick of these people whining about me writing full sentences than anything else that comes out of their mouths. I can pass off everything else as much of my generation being social media & grass-addicted morons with no sense of sophistication or integrity whatsoever.

@forevertipsy3550

Жыл бұрын

literally i just cant. i dunno what yall problem is. yall be trippin LOL. i cant with this rn my sides my dude.

@AbrasiousProductions

Жыл бұрын

It sickens me and makes my hatred for society flourish, I'm glad I'm a recluse, it's better this way..

@forevertipsy3550

Жыл бұрын

@Elijah Boyd ^^^ This SO much ! Hot take bruh. Yall be impressin me wit dat literal cabbage vibez. Low key FIRE yall yall.

When writers roleplay communist thought reform.

I stg millennials are in complete denial that they are getting old and their best days are behind them, and zoomers will end up exactly the same

@derekchirinos5629

Ай бұрын

I think people make their best days by engaging in active effort and self-improvement during any point of their lives, even during middle to late adulthood, instead of said days being bound to arbitrary life stages

@DashsChannel

Ай бұрын

At least zoomer jokes have a slightly higher success rate in being funny. I'll take shitposts and surrealism over "le epic bacon narwhals of d0000m!" style writing. It's Gen Alpha's writing I am worried about, but that won't be for another few decades.

@kasi4363

20 күн бұрын

If you think Millennials don't want to grow up, wait until you read about Zoomers.

“Uhhh that sounded better in my head” “Are you serious??” “Whopper whopper whopper whopper” “He’s standing right behind me, isn’t he?

@DBCooper01

Жыл бұрын

Hashtag, Nailed it!

@Driga_

Жыл бұрын

This.

@Driga_

Жыл бұрын

Omg literally me!

@taterboob

Жыл бұрын

“Soooo…that just happened.”

@KrabbyDude

Жыл бұрын

That last one is by Howard Hamlin right?

Forspoken is yet more confirmation.

@lloydpatam4189

Жыл бұрын

The fact that there is an option to disable the quips at all is funny. They know it would be a problem.

@MarkMightBeBetter

Жыл бұрын

yeah, sadly. Sucks since the gameplay looks pretty cool.

@unknownwill4th549

Жыл бұрын

It will be "Forgotten" in a month

@ShreddedNerd

Жыл бұрын

@@unknownwill4th549 It'll be unspoken because nobody's talking about it

@MoronicRoc

Жыл бұрын

Modern Sony games in general all suffer from this problem.

As someone who likes to write, my greatest fear would be to discover that i've accidentally written something millennial.

@Whoisyou123

Ай бұрын

As someone who's drowning in watching anime for reference, I see no problem yet

Too many of these writers suffer from main character syndrome. They can't resist the urge to self-insert themselves. And it's not just games. We're seeing this in TV series and films as well.

I think it comes from a place of being scared of authenticity. They have a desire to say what they think the audience wants to hear instead of what the characters would actually say.

@feluto7172

10 ай бұрын

No you're completely right. Everyone is so scared of being themselves or offensive that nothing has weight anymore. It's like that uncanny 'camp' feeling you get from bad acting. How are we supposed to enjoy a story when the writers themselves can't genuinely say that they do?

@Jester4460

10 ай бұрын

wheres herbert moon when you need him

@rustyshackleford5784

10 ай бұрын

Redditors

@Dissenter

10 ай бұрын

I think it's got more to do with the type of people being churned out of these universities and cities (neoliberals). I don't think they can be authentic because most can't think for themselves, and those that can won't be authentic because of political peer-pressure. But some have very clear agendas that they follow in-tandem with other forms of media - and that's because of political activists and NGO's used by billionaires like the Rockefellers (and others) to force their politics into society.

@sacta

10 ай бұрын

Yeah. Seeing this video essay devolve into "It's the FBI, man!" was weird, although the initial points made sense. And yours is a fair extra factor. It's like how the MCU can't have emotional, vulnerable moments without undermining them immediately with a joke. Like they don't have the confidence to let the audience connect emotionally.

Imagine a world where Joss Whedon pursued his dream job as a podiatrist instead of moving to Hollywood, we'd be spared the world we live in today.

@alfalldoot6715

Жыл бұрын

That should be the plot of the next Back to The Future movie

@IvanVKlik

Жыл бұрын

imagine a world where Seth MacFarlane didn't miss his flight 🥰

@MasterSpud

Жыл бұрын

Where everything doesn’t need to have swearing every five lines to be edgy and cool for the audience, but it all sounds really stupid.

@henrytownshend6441

Жыл бұрын

​@@IvanVKlik even better

@EmberBright2077

Жыл бұрын

It sucks too because as far as I can see, Whedon is good at writing, it's just he gets imitated by people who aren't so good.

This is essentially the result of having an entire generation of game writers having spent their formative teenage and college years on Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter. What a nightmare of a world we live in. Remember when games were just a fun way to destress and hang with your friends? Now everything has to be a communist essay.