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The Mangini solo is one of the best drum solos ever recorded hands down

@alexuxloyt5184

2 ай бұрын

Where can i find it?

Man, that Mangini solo might be the coolest solo ever taken. I know y'all cut the clip before he wiped his brow with his books while doing single-handed rolls just to make them even slightly comparable 😂

@lekdi2349

6 ай бұрын

huuussss...😂😂😂😂 jangan pernah ungkap sebuah kebenaran.

@illuminaelsenyor

6 ай бұрын

Mike mangini🤘

@illuminaelsenyor

4 ай бұрын

Mike M. On that time is the fastest drummer of all time. Consistent Drummer up to his age now. Systematic drummer. Mike P... Great style the way he bang and play drums🤘

@illuminaelsenyor

4 ай бұрын

Mike M. The fastest drummer of all time. Consistent and systematic drummer. Mike P. Great style drummer the way he bang and play drums.🤘

@coronalight77

Ай бұрын

Lmao ok

Both fantastic drummers

both great and legend on drums..

I think in terms of chops and overall abilities as a drummer it's Mike Magini I'd prefer. Mike Portnoy was a great fit for DT because of his creative contributions that helped to define DT's written pieces of music. It seems that Mangini was relegated to being a long time session drummer in DT, playing drums for DT rather than being the DT drummer. I think the reason why DT didn't go with Virgil Donati in the first place was precisely because Donati was an even deeper composer/arranger than any of them between Petrucci, Rudess, and Myung, and is an alpha personality such that they couldn't reign him in (remember the audition video where Donati was trying to work out his own amazing ideas to their songs after sight reading Rudess' score!!!), where as Mangini might've been fine with being sideman...for a while anyhow.

@baton.ballet

8 ай бұрын

totalmente Donati es mucho más técnico y profundo. El solo verlo con agarre tradicional de baquetas tocando metal. También verlo en Jazz como si nada, fue una locura.

@jonvincent786

15 сағат бұрын

You hit the nail right on the head... Portnoy has the feel, creativity and insane ideas that make DT... Mangini is amazing technically and played portnoys parts great but it just lacked the signature Portnoy sound. I hope Mangini gets an opportunity to shine elsewhere tho!

They're both fantastic & very talented drummers.

Mangini is an educator and a great technical drummer but as far as composing drum parts that will inspire several generations of drummers he just cant compete with Portnoy.

@PinoyIQ

8 ай бұрын

Agreed

@eDrumsInANutshell

7 ай бұрын

Yap

@danlc95

6 ай бұрын

If you listen, Portnoy often obscures the rest of the musicians with his endless repetitive commentary. Mangini finds ways to flow on and around the phrasings. Portnoy plays some cool shut, but it's at the expense at the tightness and beauty of the overall. You're taking his performances out of context and giving them undue merit. To me, Portnoy will never approach the virtuosity of drumming creativity, vocabulary, and technical excellence of Mangini. Portnoy is great with Winry Dogs and Twisted Sister. DT is way above his pay grade.

@Leatherfacet

6 ай бұрын

@@danlc95 I understand what you're saying and it could be applied in the present but Portnoy And Petrucci is Dream Theater. The rest of them are expendable. Also what Portnoy lacks in pure technique he makes up in flow, something Mangini lacks. But really, we're nitpicking.

@eDrumsInANutshell

6 ай бұрын

@@danlc95 Haha, dude! Not really! Show us a DreamTheater part of the Mangini era that is more creative that some of Portnoys stuff. I mean, Mangini did nothing new. That also depends on the other band members. If you listen to the new DreamTheater stuff... over the years there are similar sounding parts. So, since Petrucci, Myung, Rudess and LaBrie are in the band... it will sound like DreamTheater, basically you could take every drummer who is able to play the last albums. Mike Portnoy IS DreamTheater, without Mr. Portnoy that Mr. Mangidoodelini would never ever have played for DreamTheater. So, it like saying Lars Ulrich is bad drummer. Moving on thin ice, mate!

Both are straight up BADASS

The mangini solo is one of the best ever. He was a different drummer then however.

Both great drummers. Both overplay always.

Mangini has way more ingredients to cook with.

There are definitely other drummers I prefer listening to than Mike Mangini, but there is no denying his technical skill is untouchable. I have never seen another mainstream drummer replicate the stuff he does

Mangini any day!!

I'm the biggest Portnoy fanboy ever and even I can admit Mangini is the technician between the two. MP is a VERY melodic drummer. Insane ability he has to nail the feel, pitch and sounds to weave through the songs and to just merge with the ensemble. MM is like a surgeon. Necessary, precise, calculated, highly technical. Doesn't hinder his ability to support and be present, but that's where all the "robot" criticism comes from. He's the frame around the canvas. Portnoy is a part of the painting.

@stellaborealis4846

8 ай бұрын

I couldn’t have said it better

@danlc95

6 ай бұрын

You absolutely nailed it.

@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool

Ай бұрын

That is absolutely perfect!!! Please can I have permission to paraphrase this whenever anyone bashes MP or MM?

@Outplayedqt

Ай бұрын

@@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagoolI’m also kindly requesting permission to use the eloquent picture between the two the OP painted. No pun intended.

@j.p.7298

Ай бұрын

I agree 100%. Portnoy is the artist, but Mangini is the scientist.

Mangini for sure

Mangini another level. Portnoy is a nice composer yet sells the same stuff for a long while

Mike Mangini the professor, Mike Portnoy Art maestro. They are all GOAT 🙌🏼

Mangini has more control and dynamic

@ryoga9700

8 ай бұрын

but MP fanboys say the opposite 😂

@Omertahun

Ай бұрын

Lol

Mangini. Even though I’ve been heavily influenced Portnoy since “A Change in Seasons” I’m confident Mangini’s playing WOULD HAVE taken DT to another level; if that’s even possible.

Man genie.....he can play all genre, style, and skillful like guthrie in guitar 😎🤘

Both are the greatest Drummer ever, but to me as a drummer Mangini is another level..

If you're a professional drummer at all, you'll know Mangini is in a class of his own. There is no "VS".

@whisperingthunder9832

7 ай бұрын

I disagree. I am a pro. And mangini is a robot only concerned with speed. Portnoy composes. Mangini is a hired pair of sticks. Each to their own...I found your comment dismissive of MP brilliance...as if they aren't playing in the same league. Music is not a competition. It's an expression. I prefer a drummer with some soul....some MOJO. Mangini has neither.

@RandyHanley

7 ай бұрын

Not once was the word “competition” used. To each their own, like you said :-)

@Proghead88

6 ай бұрын

​@@whisperingthunder9832 if you think Mangini has no soul and is only concerned with speed you haven't been paying attention or listening to interviews with him 🤣

@whisperingthunder9832

6 ай бұрын

@RandyHanley vs. Literally means competition......wow.

@whisperingthunder9832

6 ай бұрын

@Proghead88 nope just listening. No soul.

Unfair, they are both phenomenal.

Mike (mangini) is actually just insane on the sticks

They said... " Mangini is Another Level..!" Wtf... His another dimension 😂

둘 다 좋아

Mangini all day.

@monicaclasener

9 ай бұрын

Effortless

@danlc95

6 ай бұрын

Not even a contest. He had a vast vocabulary.

The only similarity these two dudes have is their first name. One is a drummer and one is a virtuoso.

Mike Mangini 110% love him!

Mangini looked so different back then, that's how I was introduced to him

Mangini has more feel 😊

@AnnWahlquist

5 ай бұрын

hahahaha NOOOOO

@musiciano8608

Ай бұрын

Yes

MM for technicality

I've always thought mike mangini from the office

Mangini all day

Young Mangini SMOKES MP like barbecue.

@davidmichaelsen9805

8 ай бұрын

Of course.

@davidmichaelsen9805

8 ай бұрын

And The hours Of Practice He has put in

Tecnica do mangini é sensacional porém senti diferença nos discos do DT em relação a pegada dos dois, portnoy trm uma pegada du caralho para o DT

The difference between those 2 performances (for who didn't know) is that Mike Portnoy on his drumplay was improvising as well, while Mike Mangini was playing just the same concert solo, over and over again, hundred times repeatedly. But to compare the drummers - they are both talented and even different in their playing drum style, etc.

Every metric possible says Mangini is better. However, there is a very subtle thing that most of people don`t pick up which is what to play when to play and this is where Portnoy is better. He plays bespoke drums. Mangini is all over the place with his exercises. Listen to Dream Theater live with Mangini, it`s almost painful.

Mangini 24/7/365! Not only is he a better drummer, but he's a wonderful human being. Unlike that other guy whose ego is over inflated.

Mike mangini é muito fera,mas o Portnoy é sobrenatural

Mangini forgot his hot dog 😀

They are both awesome!

Not even close!Mangjni is in another level !

Both i like ❤❤❤

Mangini, no question

Can you orefer one or the other?! 2 amazing drummers and ee got to see both of them in our lifetime.. not mad about it

Mangini is much better. 👍

No los compares, sólo disfruta 😊

Thing is Mangini can still play that and probably faster but can Portnoy? They were a lot younger then. And by the way you favored Portnoy in that you showed the slower parts of Mangini’s solo.

Even Portnoy knows Mangini is better.

In this context, Mangini.

Mangini effortlessly plays this. Both great though.

Mangini lebih hebat dari semua sektor skill power dan speed

There's no "who did it better" Both of those guys are NBA NFL MLB Tony Hawk and whatever else you can think of. Top of the top drummers.

They both rock!

Mike Mangini = Polyrhythms any time signature. Portnoy = Linear Drumming and a few time signature capabilities

This is my two favourite drummer, I think Mangini was better than portnoy, but portnoy do the best album with DT

Different Class…. 🎉

Both amazing

Mangini is definitely in a class all his own. I feel if Portnoy was still as young as he was in this video he would be able to handle the songs dream theater released over the last decade with Mangini... he's just a lot slower now, but he's also older.

@nicok509

8 ай бұрын

Mangini is older, i mean ca. 5 years

@ITMeCE

8 ай бұрын

@nicok509 and yet he still plays at the same level, Portnoy does not. He will find ways to play the songs, he's still a very capable drummer... but Mangini is just on another level

I’ve seen manginis super kit it’s at my local place Portsmouth Drum Center

Yo digo que Mike tiene los time signiture más presisos de la historia del rock

Its VanGogh vs Monet. They're masters that paint very different pictures

Both!!

Mangini is a teacher and clinic drummer! Portnoy is a composer and drummer

@powerface71

8 ай бұрын

Mangini is far superior. Portnoy wasted his prime.

@ryoga9700

8 ай бұрын

Mangini can even compose a solo drum to be a great sound and beautiful solo instead of just a powerfull & technical drumming 😂😂

Both are top players

Technically Mangini much better than Portnoy

They are both phenomenal in their own right. And I like them both. But I'm a bigger Portnoy fan. 😂 Mangini may have a bigger arsenal. But...but...as far as creativity I give it to Portnoy.

With all respect, but not have comparison, the style of MP is very high.

Danny Carey

Portnoy

They're both goofballs

I prefer mike

Honestly ill have to go with Mike here.

Mike

En ese entonces Mangini era un baterista mas melódico. El de ahora perdio esa escencia. Supongo que por el pasar del tiempo lo hizo dejar algunas cosas.. Pero bueno. Sinceramente ese solo de mangini es un solo genial.

MP = stock MM = world class

Wow!,like so much....!!❤

Each has their pros and cons to me. Honestly, the first time I heard Mangini was in 2006. Portnoy, IMO, had started phoning in the drumming for DT. The creativity of his grooves had plateaued, and the "Portnoy beat" and "Portnoy fill" had begun to monopolize his playing, and to me (again, my opinion) had gotten stale. I saw this solo of Mangini and said "That guy needs to be in Dream Theater!" haha. I was overjoyed when he got the gig, and honestly I think he spent the perfect amount of time in the band, and I'm very excited to see what Portnoy does next. From a player perspective, Mangini is far and away better than Portnoy when it comes to any technical measurement of playing the drums. His limb independence, grasp of polyrhythms, using rudiments in his playing etc. far exceeds anything Portnoy and do. He does have a much better senes of groove than most players at his technical level, but there is always a mechanical feel to his playing. That's not always bad, especially in DT. Portnoy on the other hand, he's like the Lars Ulrich of Prog. And I don't mean that as an insult. Portnoy is one of the most important drummers in the world IMO. Listening to him makes prog accessible to people who maybe wouldn't have gotten into it. The early days, he was incredibly creative, used his limited rudimental skill to it's maximum. He didn't invent linear fills, but he certainly perfected them to the point that they are called Portnoy fills for a reason. Obviously his understanding of complex rhythmic ideas is there, and his ability to simplify them to the point that they still sound like a groove instead of an exercise in time is awesome. I think he's up there with guys like Gavin Harrison when it comes to this, and I think it's a very under appreciated skill in the world of prog drumming.

How many legendary songs has Mangini written? It must be like, lets see, zero. Portnoy, well, 50? At the least?

Portnoy🤘

I prefer Mike

Portnoy de todas maneras

I prefer Mike..

Mike is the Best!!!

Years ago play offs were a thing. Today it's a question of style and preferences. For example, what is the criteria for judgement? Portnoy clearly showcases improvisation and in the moment invention. in contrast magini shows super human practice developed skills that only a veteran of much practice could reproduce so easily at will. The two are showing casing extreme opposite skill sets. I know managing can improvise and portnoy can pre determine. By scientific parameters managing wins out. But by human and musical it's anyone's choice. I prefer portnoy for dream theaters recordings but that said I equally enjoyed manginis invention and style on the drums. These days there is no use for drum battles. In the 30s it was rich versus kooper. Even then the audience was thorn as to who was better. One was technical and the other melodic. History has shown that music is richer for having more than one rather than a monopoly. Forget better on or worse and be thankful there is both. Punk v rock. Jazz v classical. I'll listen to it all thank you very much. Oh, and by the way. What's your name? If I watch you play live who the ruck cares if you are better or worse than someone else? I care care of I like what you are doing yourself then and compared to nobody. Remember, you exist to within all this! Just saying

I like them both, they both are amazing

I'm going to have to go with Mike.

I'll choose mike

Portnoy of couse!

I think Mike was the best

Nikmati keduanya tanpa harus membandingkan

@YantoSuranto-iz5mp

6 ай бұрын

Lo bukan drumer anying, mana paham 😂. Portnoy si drumer asal pukul🙏🏻😂

@muhammadfedliansyah1174

6 ай бұрын

@@YantoSuranto-iz5mp gue drummer walaupun gak pro, SMP sampai kuliah aktif ngeband, dan gak perlu sok2an jadi si paling paham musik buat nikmati mereka berdua. Portnoy asal mukul 🤣 kasih pala lue biar dipukul 🤣🤣🤣

I preferred Virgil Donati.

The Great Mike❤

migini sounds good in solo portnoy all day in a song

monsters both of them..

Mangini is more musical.

MM anytime

My wife prefers portnoy but I prefer mangini. I'm I drummer btw ... 😅