Mike Campbell on the Heartbreakers “The Waiting” Solo & Its Electric Spontaneity | Shred with Shifty

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Mike Campbell knows how to write the perfect parts to a song, and records them with the perfect guitar, amp, and tone to match. That’s why Shifty has the Heartbreakers’ lead man on this episode to get a look under the hood at what drives Campbell’s solo on “The Waiting.”
The song, from 1981’s Hard Promises, was tracked at Sound City, where Campbell recalls the band had “every amp in the world lined up across the room, every amp you can imagine.” After miking and testing each, Campbell says they settled on a Fender Twin, which he brought to life with a white Les Paul he got from a pawn shop. Shifty notes the song’s music video led him to believe the solo was tracked with a Rickenbacker, but Campbell snickers that it was just for show: “I did that different just to fuck people up,” he grins. (“I hate that video, I think I look like a total idiot,” he adds.)
Campbell, who started playing guitar by ear at 16 on an “unplayable” Harmony acoustic, says he didn’t labor over the solo for “The Waiting,” favoring spontaneity and instinct instead. “I like to come in fresh and capture as I’m discovering what it is, there’s some electricity in that moment,” he explains. “The listener can hear that you’re discovering it as they’re discovering it at the same time.” That approach applies to his songwriting experience in general, too: “I don't even wanna talk about it too much, because it's mysterious,” he says. “It comes to you when it wants to.
Later, Campbell lays out how he and Petty balanced their guitar parts, and why Campbell favored “droning” open notes over complexity for many of his leads. And stick around to hear how about the difficulty of backing Bob Dylan, and why original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch almost got in a fight with Johnny Rotten.
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  • @MrDevins
    @MrDevins5 ай бұрын

    Mike IS an American treasure.

  • @caleshtcincredibles

    @caleshtcincredibles

    5 ай бұрын

    He most certainly is ! Well said !

  • @Dreyno

    @Dreyno

    5 ай бұрын

    He’s a world treasure.

  • @sammmy4495

    @sammmy4495

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @oldrrocr

    @oldrrocr

    3 ай бұрын

    to hear the phrase" That's it! you're hired!" from Mike has got to be the highest compliment.

  • @TooMuchBike
    @TooMuchBike5 ай бұрын

    Holy crap I love Mike Campbell. Such a subtle genius. Like Lukather, he's so modest about his work.

  • @ricdale7813
    @ricdale78135 ай бұрын

    Mike never was a flashy "its about me" guitarist. He wrote and played the perfect parts making perfect songs. Excellent tone,superb playing and all very tastefully done.

  • @tefenstrat
    @tefenstrat2 ай бұрын

    Its such a treat to listen to Mike tell stories about the old days, I could sit and listen as long as Mike was willing to keep talking...lol. Mike mentioned twice how much he loved George Harrison's guitar playing. I wish I could have got a chance to ask Mike if he ever got a chance to play or jam with the Traveling Wilbury's? I bet he would have loved that. Mike is one of those rare individuals who can make little mistake's while playing guitar ( like during this interview) but when the pressure is on ( like during the Superbowl performance) makes NO mistakes. The Beatles final concert on the Apple rooftop is another perfect example of this, watch the 3 part documentation called Get Back.

  • @brettliebermanmusic
    @brettliebermanmusic5 ай бұрын

    This series, by far, is the best guitar content on KZread in a long long time.

  • @premierguitar

    @premierguitar

    5 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @KSmith_007
    @KSmith_0075 ай бұрын

    CRIMINALLY underrated guitar player. Both of these men are.

  • @revwillyg6450

    @revwillyg6450

    5 ай бұрын

    There's the "criminally underrated" comment! 😂 I'm just messing, don't hate

  • @brittons.wiedmeier7861
    @brittons.wiedmeier78614 ай бұрын

    I read an article once that said something to the effect of "Mike Campbell has never played a wasted note". I think that sums it up. He serves the song and not himself. He is, was, and always will be my musical hero. I've seen the Dirty Knobs three times now, and will go any time he comes remotely close. See him while you can. Thanks Mike and Chris.

  • @s2seltaeb
    @s2seltaeb5 ай бұрын

    Thanks Chris and Mike! Chris, please have Mike on 100 more times so we can get more Heartbreakers songs on here 😇 Another great one would be Elliot Easton... maybe for "Bye Bye Love!" (There's other videos of him doing other Cars' songs).

  • @s2seltaeb

    @s2seltaeb

    5 ай бұрын

    @premierguitar The one to have Mike Campbell come back for, in an encore presentation, is "Love Is A Long Road." That song was just chosen as the theme song for the Grand Theft Auto 6 video game. It will be a bigger and bigger song over the next few years, and would be a huge hit with multiple age ranges if MC came back and did a video of it with Chris. 🙏

  • @robertmulligan9073
    @robertmulligan90735 ай бұрын

    I like to say that Mike Campbell taught me guitar. All his tunes are a lesson in great song writing and playing the notes that suits the song just right. His contributions to rock and roll are immense!!

  • @caleshtcincredibles
    @caleshtcincredibles5 ай бұрын

    Going back and watching live videos of Tom Petty and Heartbreakers from the late 70s and 80s , great band , very tight and Mike's playing so tasteful that just weaves itself around the song and your heart ❤️. Just can't get enough !

  • @iansnyder274
    @iansnyder2745 ай бұрын

    Mike is so great. That video and solo catapulted my guitar playing journey starting in '82. What a treasure he is. We love and appreciate you Mike! Thank you for this interview😊

  • @mikeatl4953
    @mikeatl49534 ай бұрын

    Agreed, he is just one of the best players on top of incredible creativity and musicality. How miraculous he and TP got together and clicked, exponentially increasing their individual genius. .

  • @jaycareaga9929
    @jaycareaga99295 ай бұрын

    Mike is one of my favorite guitar players ever.

  • @herrroy4963
    @herrroy49632 ай бұрын

    This is kind of mindblowing. Sitting here on youtube and we get to learn exactly how maestro Mike played on that iconic song. From Mike himself. I'm pretty grateful for that opportunity . So cool. I'm like 20yrs younger than Mike, but I learned to play guitar the same way he did, by listening careful to the solos and tried to figure out by ear how to play. I also used live music videos sometimes to see where they put their fingers 🤣 Man that was a long time ago! Thanks for an awesome video!

  • @brianwood7237
    @brianwood72375 ай бұрын

    Back in 1983 my guitar teacher decided I needed to learn how to play this solo... so much to unpack, such as; melodic Tasty Licks combined with unison bends, great tone and dynamics Great example of Mike's lead guitar genius

  • @joem6859
    @joem68595 ай бұрын

    Note for note, he's the best, no extra stuff, no wanking, just beautiful stuff. Even some of the newer Petty stuff like 'Good Enough' really shows ALL of his abilities, his genius and his tone. what tone....

  • @GS-uy4xo
    @GS-uy4xo2 ай бұрын

    I love how he see’s music as sort of a spirit that comes to you and if you’re lucky you can grab what it’s giving you, and then it’s gone for a while. He certainly takes advantage of those times - great stuff!

  • @ia5662
    @ia56625 ай бұрын

    He and Tom were like peanut butter and jelly - I have grown up soaking in all that Mike Campbell's tones and guitar parts had to offer and keep uncovering more as I get older. What a consummate professional and all-time creator. His work in the Heartbreakers should go into the Library of Congress! Every song had that added sugar or frosting thanks to Mike Campbell and he often provided the meat too. My favorite albums are definitely Into The Great Wide Open and Wildflowers back to back - he has so many great guitar moments in both, with electric AND acoustic. I love his acoustic playing too - he's a wizard to us mere mortals much like Steve Howe.

  • @djavidianmx1832

    @djavidianmx1832

    5 ай бұрын

    A master of understatement. Never a wasted note, never a note too many

  • @BloodySoup74
    @BloodySoup744 ай бұрын

    When i think of the perfect part to the solo or perfect phrasing to a solo I think of Mike Campbell and Elliot Easton. Automatically!

  • @bldallas
    @bldallas5 ай бұрын

    Great video, Chris! Mike Campbell may be my favorite guest so far; and a great pick for the song/solo to focused on. He is such an awesome player and was a massive part of all those killer hit songs. Mike and Tom were a powerhouse together and I can’t imagine those tunes without all his contributions. Heck they even sound similar, when they’re just talking. Thanks for all that you do Chris; I’m definitely a big fan.

  • @dmn23
    @dmn235 ай бұрын

    Follow the melody, add some Chuck Berry, be tasteful with your vibrato, and don't over-complicate it. These are life lessons.

  • @patwest8304
    @patwest83045 ай бұрын

    Whenever I see a new episode of "Shred with Shifty" has come out I think, "Damn, this is the best day EVER!" Thank you SOOO much, Chris! We love you!

  • @darenanderson1960
    @darenanderson19605 ай бұрын

    What a gentleman. I like him a lot. I wish I could play the way he does-perfect part, perfect tone-always serving the song. I realize I play far too much of the “check out this cool guitar stuff I can do”.

  • @toastoftowne1076
    @toastoftowne10765 ай бұрын

    In my mind Mike is the absolute coolest.

  • @waynefrance4545
    @waynefrance45455 ай бұрын

    Great interaction! It almost felt like you guys were buddies just hanging out. Was also nice hearing Tom referenced here and there. Awesome interview. Well done!!

  • @nicstunes
    @nicstunes4 ай бұрын

    What a gracious, brilliant, humble musician. TP's co-pilot but a great captain in his own right.

  • @buccos2004
    @buccos20045 ай бұрын

    Mike and Tom....two of the all time great contributors to American music. So thankful that I happened to live at the same time as Tom Petty and Mike Campbell and the Hearbreakers.

  • @cptntwang
    @cptntwang5 ай бұрын

    That’s a masterclass. Thank you so much.

  • @jasonperl8619
    @jasonperl86195 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love these shifty video's. Mike is such an awesome dude!

  • @MrSumfeen
    @MrSumfeen3 ай бұрын

    What a fantastic series of interviews. Thank you Shifty from all us guitar geeks!

  • @philipmarsh3522
    @philipmarsh35225 ай бұрын

    I think the hardest part of learning any Mike Campbell song is realizing that everything is simple, except the part where playing it ‘perfectly’ gets you about 10% of the way there. Then you have to figure out how to actually work out his vibrato, the tiny phrasing nuances, the dynamics. I’ve never really gotten all the way there … I guess you just have to be Mike to do it right. A good friend of mine, who is also friends with Mike, told me some time back that it’s nearly impossible to get it right, because Mike is the best guitarist on the planet and it isn’t anything to do with technical ability. Hearing that from someone who is the best guitarist that I know in real life is eye opening.

  • @briannacery9939
    @briannacery9939Ай бұрын

    Shifty, that yellow black guard Tele is meant for you. You sound so good on it! Mike Campbell is fantastic!

  • @bldallas
    @bldallasАй бұрын

    Had to watch this one again, Chris. I’m a huge fan of both of you. I also just paused the beginning to go watch their original video. Haven’t seen it in decades, but I love it! Very straight forward. And Mike, you look cool as hell in that thing. Y’all just look young. Of course U was in college back then, so we all did. This had to be early in the MTV days before videos had to have weird and totally nonsensical content, like a horse walking thru the set or a wizard in the corner. Anyhow, back to the Epi. Really great story to a really great lead. Thanks again, Chris and Mike. Great job to you both.

  • @bengooch4306
    @bengooch43065 ай бұрын

    This is amazing. Thank you so, so much for this series! Please keep it up, it is so good.

  • @ballenstorms
    @ballenstorms5 ай бұрын

    The perfect interview! Thank you.

  • @mikeprince6045
    @mikeprince60453 ай бұрын

    Mike is the best.. love his personality i could hang with him no problem….love seing guys that are masters and dont wear it on their sleeve … thats the true definition of a cool human being not to mention he was part and founder of a band that truely had a unique trend setting vibe….. he and tom set the bar in rock and roll… what a great soul.. love you Mike and best of luck with the Knobs… you and Tom ate without a doubt American icons… may you live forever brother

  • @gracekopesky7762
    @gracekopesky77625 ай бұрын

    Enjoying this interview. Mike is one of the greatest. Thank you

  • @Jackie_Rosewood
    @Jackie_Rosewood5 ай бұрын

    As always these interviews are amazing! Both of you are amazing too!!🎸🎸✌🏻✌🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @JamesVandevanter
    @JamesVandevanter5 ай бұрын

    You can fret behind the slide as well. But you guys know. Thank you Chris and Mike for your music, style..........etc.

  • @therockerfoo2339
    @therockerfoo23395 ай бұрын

    Thank you Chris and Mike! Great interview. Always enjoy Mikes humbleness and tips.

  • @macdad159
    @macdad1594 ай бұрын

    Happy Birthday Mike Campbell!

  • @TheBoomtown4
    @TheBoomtown45 ай бұрын

    He would arpeggio over the learning to fly strumming into and that little thing is the single best sound I’ve heard guitars produce. Listen to the first 4 barres, it’s supernatural.

  • @greghenricks8516
    @greghenricks85162 ай бұрын

    Awesome awesome interview. Thank you!

  • @cecilmusick8629
    @cecilmusick86295 ай бұрын

    Love Mikes playing, he's a great example of serving the songs perfectly and not his ego!

  • @Sonicblue1922
    @Sonicblue19225 ай бұрын

    great episode! Thank you Chris!

  • @tommyraper3895
    @tommyraper38955 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this, Chris! Mike Campbell is one of my all-time favorites. I can't get enough of listening to him and how things were developed!

  • @mikeprince6045

    @mikeprince6045

    3 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @bareandmare
    @bareandmare3 ай бұрын

    Great interview!! Thanks Shifty!

  • @dr.buzzvonjellar8862
    @dr.buzzvonjellar88625 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much Mike! From my heart, thank you for the music and the perfect parts.

  • @mydeadletteroffice
    @mydeadletteroffice5 ай бұрын

    Living legend. One of the best ever. Wildly underrated.

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith5 ай бұрын

    Fantastic episode..this is my favorite PETTY /Heartbreakers song. So melodic, modal and beautiful on the solo and fills.

  • @jimlutz8092
    @jimlutz80925 ай бұрын

    I am so glad I watched the entire interview. Mike is so easy to hang with, and so NOT a big time celebrity personality. I just want to hang and play guitar with him. I could do that for hours. I've learned so much from his playing over the years, even if I haven't been doing the solo parts for songs like "The Waiting" exactly as Mike shows here.

  • @jpm1897
    @jpm18975 ай бұрын

    These interviews do a great job of humanizing great artists. Simply said, MC songs are fun to play. It’s funny how I hear his influence in the Congregation solo. ✌️

  • @peterolson5232
    @peterolson52324 ай бұрын

    Brilliant video - big thanks to both

  • @TheChef470
    @TheChef4704 ай бұрын

    My Gosh I just found your show. You are a fantastic host and Mike is most certainly an American treasure. Thoroughly enjoyed this show . ❤

  • @hippydippy
    @hippydippy5 ай бұрын

    "Drone Sounds"... Always make me think of Jimi Hendrix's - "Castles made of Sand". The intro & out's. I'll never forget hearing those sounds in 1968 at 13. Love them.

  • @Grant_Ferstat
    @Grant_Ferstat5 ай бұрын

    You actually played my favourite lick in your sign-off Chris, that is just my absolute fave. It's function within the song is absolute gold!

  • @saffel
    @saffel5 ай бұрын

    Rad- I just read Mike Campbell- and clicked! Even better when I realized it’ was the latest episode of Shred with Shifty’ Siiiiiick

  • @sn95_mustang_garage
    @sn95_mustang_garage5 ай бұрын

    Mike made a good point. If you over think your playing it will sound stiff. Notice how none of his solos are complex but instead they compliment the song. For instance, this solo he played what Tom was singing when he got stuck. Just play those notes. Most would be doing speed runs, etc. Well done, you don't need all that for a hit song.

  • @stevenhill1287
    @stevenhill12875 ай бұрын

    Awesome interview! 😎👍

  • @LicksoftheLegend
    @LicksoftheLegend5 ай бұрын

    Easily my favorite one so far. Mike is cool as can be and Chris asks the perfect questions.

  • @SabineAhlbrecht
    @SabineAhlbrecht5 ай бұрын

    This is so awesome! ❤️‍🔥

  • @ThatHorsesAss
    @ThatHorsesAss3 ай бұрын

    This is absolutely Awesome!

  • @shreddyvedder
    @shreddyvedder5 ай бұрын

    Great interview Shifty🎸👍

  • @Ycjedi
    @Ycjedi5 ай бұрын

    Please never stop doing these 😅

  • @lets_rock_it
    @lets_rock_it5 ай бұрын

    I was starting to think you had left us iam glad you didnt. 🤘 this is becoming my favourite podcast ❤

  • @sixgunrj
    @sixgunrj5 ай бұрын

    Great interview! I did't know Mike was influenced by Chuck Berry. I was too. I use Chuck Berry licks every chance I get when soloing. Thank you so much Chris for bringing the great Mike Campbell on your show! What a nice guy he is!

  • @BillBensen
    @BillBensen5 ай бұрын

    I love that Pete got his question on this one! I loved playing with him in Signicci and when he sat in with the Redheads. Love to you, Chris!

  • @Bilbie55
    @Bilbie554 ай бұрын

    Never thought about Bloomfield as being an inspiration for Campbell but it makes plenty of sense

  • @imanalien2222
    @imanalien22225 ай бұрын

    Just wached the video and Mike plays/fakes the solo the exact same way as he showed here. What a legend!

  • @tjames6427
    @tjames64275 ай бұрын

    I'm the same way when it comes to learning songs! I just hear it and find the notes using my ear. It's the best way to learn! Throw on a backing track and just expand the pentatonic into something else. Mike is a legend and an inspiration!

  • @Michael777Simmons
    @Michael777Simmons3 ай бұрын

    Mike is the man.

  • @peterkerr9822
    @peterkerr98225 ай бұрын

    Love Shiftys vids👍Should be a good one 😊❤️🎸

  • @user-ql1pc7pi9x
    @user-ql1pc7pi9x5 ай бұрын

    That's my favorite Heartbreakers track. Heard it on the radio today here in Auckland, NZ, on the way to an American car show in my Dad's '66 Vette.

  • @jamesjordan4586
    @jamesjordan45865 ай бұрын

    Thanks that was great fun.

  • @DDubGuitar
    @DDubGuitar5 ай бұрын

    I always LOVED that lick at 26:55. It's the perfect punctuation. When I figured it out, I was amazed at how simple AND effective it was.

  • @kevinmackfurniture
    @kevinmackfurniture2 ай бұрын

    "You Got Lucky" and the solo riffs off that song, play in my head whenever, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers are brought up.

  • @MotownGuitarJoe
    @MotownGuitarJoe5 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love Shifty!

  • @metaphoria3
    @metaphoria34 ай бұрын

    Dude looks great still awesome interview! \m/

  • @JasminBellavance_Music
    @JasminBellavance_Music5 ай бұрын

    What a great guitar mind!

  • @megale_music
    @megale_music5 ай бұрын

    Mike is so so good.

  • @arthurguitar
    @arthurguitar5 ай бұрын

    One on my all time favourites (along with Albert Lee). Definitely one of the most underrated guitarists of all time. Hasn’t wasted a single note.

  • @DrunkenDish
    @DrunkenDish4 ай бұрын

    I didnt have my glasses on so what I intially read for the title was ... THE PERFECT FART

  • @zenmaestro04
    @zenmaestro045 ай бұрын

    Listen up kids. When Mike Campbell talks guitar, you listen!

  • @carolynjohnson4741
    @carolynjohnson47415 ай бұрын

    Mike is the best!

  • @jimmy5634
    @jimmy56344 ай бұрын

    For many of us who play, this is all so familiar and relatable.

  • @Gill.L
    @Gill.L4 ай бұрын

    Love you Mike 🎸❤️

  • @djavidianmx1832
    @djavidianmx18325 ай бұрын

    29:03!!!! Yes! So glad he went there. I always joke theres a turkey gobbling there😂😂 Love that part.

  • @topsbottom2214
    @topsbottom22145 ай бұрын

    Wow!!! Just wow. 😮

  • @davidwright9550
    @davidwright95505 ай бұрын

    Two of my favorite fellow picking dudes in one video! Now how cool is that???

  • @tejaspics
    @tejaspics5 ай бұрын

    What a classy smart dude.

  • @coolspring8749
    @coolspring87493 ай бұрын

    Th his is a fantastic video! He’s buddies with John McFee their vids are hysterical. Exceptional guitar player.

  • @shippenman5977
    @shippenman59775 ай бұрын

    Saw Mike and the Dirty knobs and Chris with foo fighters in 2023. Great freakin shows.

  • @jbels41
    @jbels415 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @hiddenriveroutdoors3844
    @hiddenriveroutdoors384414 күн бұрын

    Mike is a walking God!

  • @bareandmare
    @bareandmare3 ай бұрын

    "did it just to f&*k people up" Love it!

  • @81ghale
    @81ghale5 ай бұрын

    That boutique guitar comment is gold 😂

  • @tfunk1829
    @tfunk18295 ай бұрын

    Mike and Tom did just sound like one big guitar.

  • @finaljesus
    @finaljesus5 ай бұрын

    the album hard promises has always been my favorite love tom petty and the heartbreakers and love mike

  • @stevenblakeakahashburns
    @stevenblakeakahashburns5 ай бұрын

    Got my Glasgow ticket ages ago….canny wait

  • @monmixer
    @monmixer5 ай бұрын

    Love the Heartbreakers. A perfect example of how simplicity is so much better than beating your brains out trying to be a shredder. IMO putting all that time into playing fast is missing the boat unless you learned how to play well first. I learned a lot of songs from that first album they put out. Along with Skykyrds first few albums. BOC live. Hot Rails To Hell is great jam song you can cut your teeth on for a backing track.

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