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  • @jacquesdespadas
    @jacquesdespadas Жыл бұрын

    Hey Joey, you do you when it comes to writing your show. Haters can take a walk, and no content creator needs those people anyway. I think you overlooked the most important part of Rhythm of the Wild: "Creature spells you cast can't be countered." When those are 6-9 mana spells, that's kinda critical for avoiding a blowout.

  • @xaxscratchxax926

    @xaxscratchxax926

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw that and had to shake my head....its not only about the haste.

  • @famousstranger8468

    @famousstranger8468

    Жыл бұрын

    I have been playing the deck a lot since I managed to build my own with the Wild card in the deck and it's not been cast once include it because if it comes up cool but you don't need it

  • @Lith5484
    @Lith5484 Жыл бұрын

    You’ve added a very cool infinite combo. With cursed mirror on the board, Astral dragon can make two copies of the mirror, which can enter as copies of astral dragon….. so on for as many dragons as you want!

  • @Chris-Collectible

    @Chris-Collectible

    Жыл бұрын

    that is a cool combo for the deck i like it

  • @andrewsparkes6275

    @andrewsparkes6275

    Жыл бұрын

    Sadly that doesn't work; Astral Dragon cannot target the Mirror while the MIrror is a creature. Step 1: Cast Cursed Mirror, choosing for it to enter as an Astral Dragon on the battlefield. Step 2: A creature named Astral Dragon enters the battlefield with haste, and Miryam lets you get a copy of it. Step 3: There are no Cursed Mirrors on the battlefield to make tokens of with any of your new Astral Dragons triggers, just two new creatures called Astral Dragon with haste and your original without haste.

  • @Lith5484

    @Lith5484

    Жыл бұрын

    You’ve got it backwards my friend, you need cursed mirror to already be on the battlefield not copying anything. With it already on the field as a mana rock it is a noncreature Astral dragon enters and makes two copies of the noncreature mirror, which each enter as copies of astral dragon, which copies the noncreature mirrors… etc. Good note for executing it properly though!

  • @andrewsparkes6275

    @andrewsparkes6275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lith5484 Ah yes, excellent point - my bad. I was so excited at the clone tech, I didn't even think of it going the other way around!

  • @Nidalap6

    @Nidalap6

    Жыл бұрын

    Thx guys! ancient bronze dragon had to leave for astral dragon now. I’m excited playing that combo next tournament (commander ur-dragon)

  • @IndianMtG
    @IndianMtG Жыл бұрын

    Who doesn’t like the intro puns?!

  • @guestblahful

    @guestblahful

    Жыл бұрын

    People who think the puns make the intro "Drag on"

  • @Sykdude

    @Sykdude

    Жыл бұрын

    Me.

  • @ethologist22

    @ethologist22

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t ever stop!

  • @fablerh2476

    @fablerh2476

    Жыл бұрын

    Puny minds.

  • @JoeJoe-pf3ej

    @JoeJoe-pf3ej

    Жыл бұрын

    Me

  • @robinjuergens7090
    @robinjuergens7090 Жыл бұрын

    @15:18 Thundermaw Hellkite only triggers on ETB, just a heads up 👌🏻

  • @Muf_Cabbage

    @Muf_Cabbage

    Жыл бұрын

    The reason I have it in my sideboard but not in the deck

  • @akira-qr4qm

    @akira-qr4qm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Muf_Cabbage still a good finisher

  • @DAsrada
    @DAsrada Жыл бұрын

    I'm actually a fan of the plain Red Dragon. Getting multiple copies of it can have the damage really add up, and Panharmonicon can make it outright end games in the space of a single flicker effect with Miirym out.

  • @Devynwithawhy

    @Devynwithawhy

    Жыл бұрын

    Red Dragon represents a 12 (out of 120) damage ETB, and 4 damage per turn. With a copy that easily makes it 24 damage ETB and 8 per turn. On it's own, that's a decent clock

  • @caiopereira1289

    @caiopereira1289

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, it's a sneakily op card in this deck. I use it in my miiryn deck and it's bonkers

  • @AquaAK723
    @AquaAK723 Жыл бұрын

    Sakashima (both), Spark Double, and Reflections of Littjara are really important pieces for Miirym. Reflections lets you create the copy, have it ETB, and then put Miirym down, and then is just a value engine. The Sakashima's and Spark Double are a good way to abuse Miirym's triggers, and Ghostly Flicker/Dualcaster Mage are an important combo to finish out the game with just 'a dragon' on board with Miirym. Also, Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer is a good combo piece finisher with Thrakkus the Butcher. A few tokens (including treasure) turning into Thrakkus becomes very lethal very fast.

  • @famousstranger8468

    @famousstranger8468

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you have a list?

  • @kyleholden7529
    @kyleholden7529 Жыл бұрын

    Ah so excited for this! I pulled Miirym during the pre release event!

  • @ALymental
    @ALymental Жыл бұрын

    Monster Manual has been a real monster, throwing out near uncounterable dragons for 2 mana on any turn. Fierce empath is a respectable dragon tutor on a body.

  • @spamcan2284

    @spamcan2284

    Жыл бұрын

    Elvish Piper is also really nice in this deck

  • @jfollow4617

    @jfollow4617

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree 💯

  • @Dracorus_

    @Dracorus_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spamcan2284 Howlpack Piper too

  • @spamcan2284

    @spamcan2284

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dracorus_ The only reason I don't play that is because I absolutely loathe the daybound/nightbound mechanic. It is nice that its uncounterable though

  • @Dracorus_

    @Dracorus_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spamcan2284 yeah I don't like that mechanic too. I only use Monster Manual from the three mentioned here in my Dragon Tribal Deck.

  • @brianrichards7441
    @brianrichards7441 Жыл бұрын

    Great deck tech Joey. I just pulled a Miirym yesterday and I have been pondering a build for this all night. You’ve made it official. Miirym is happening.

  • @rubyblossom3004
    @rubyblossom3004 Жыл бұрын

    I've played dragons ever since i joined MTG 8 yrs ago and i have to admit this is a great upping! But i would like to mention after seeing the decklists it needs more haste enablers, one or two big dragons can finish games by themselves, specially with Miirym, so you wanna use them before they get wiped or targetted by your opponents because of how scary a single dragon can be. I've learned that more often than not, your dragons will die after a single turn rotation :')

  • @ALymental

    @ALymental

    Жыл бұрын

    Word. Especially on a higher budget with old gnawbones and ancient copper dragons. I've tested prioritising haste and all that treasure really helps set up quick recoveries against subsequent board wipes, not to mention outright lethal combats out of the blue. There's even the added benefit of letting mana dorks tap on cast...

  • @Wistbacka

    @Wistbacka

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I run as many haste enablers as I can. I even prioritized red dragon orb over the green one in my deck. Dragon tempest Temur Ascendancy Rhythm Fires of yavimaya Red orb thingy

  • @andreww479
    @andreww479 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for no not making puns during the intro, they always make these videos Drag-on forever

  • @plant260
    @plant260 Жыл бұрын

    I was struggling to make this budget, so I really appreciate this video!

  • @andrewsparkes6275
    @andrewsparkes6275 Жыл бұрын

    5:23 Aren't the red and green orbs basically the same thing in practice; they both let you get in one hit with a dragon before it's removed (green helps it not be the target of removal until your next turn when you can swing with it, red lets you swing right away). Hell, the red orb is probably better in that respect, since you'll DEFINITELY get a hit in, whereas the green orb still leaves you open to boardwipes. Sure you don't get an extra +1/+1 but that buff is more meaningless the bigger the creature already is and dragons are already huge enough for it to be negligible in terms of 'The actual main effect you're putting the card in the deck for'.

  • @AricinGrey

    @AricinGrey

    Жыл бұрын

    Technically the Red Orb also leaves you open to a boardwipe or targeted removal anyway.

  • @andrewsparkes6275

    @andrewsparkes6275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AricinGrey Instant speed removal can be used on as the dragon is actually swinging in whether the person used the green orb or the red orb (because the hexproof runs out as you untap on the turn you wanna swing in with it). The green orb attack happens a turn later, sure, but in both situations, the dragon can be removed at instant speed on the combat phase that they're actually swinging in on. So both are actually equal there. It's not like people are gonna usually use up their instant speed removal on some minor threat when they see some big dragon with hexproof that's gonna run out soon sitting there. So the instant targeted removal will still likely be removing the big dragon just before it actually deals damage either way. So then it comes down to sorcery-speed removal - targeted and boardwipes. Sorcery-speed targeted removal cannot be used between the dragon being cast by the green orb and it attacking, sure...but the same is actually true for the red orb - because both it being cast and attacking is on your same turn, so sorcery speed targeted removal still cannot be used between it being cast and attacking either way. So again, both are equal here. So the only difference is with sorcery-speed untargeted board wipes. And those are stronger against the green orb than the red orb because they can wipe out the green orb-cast dragon before it gets a chance to attack, and by extension, the red orb is better at actually getting your hit in overall because it allows you to attack before an opponent can use sorcery boardwipes. Yeah boardwipes can remove the hasty creature, but only after the hasty creature has already done some damage. But those same boardwipes can remove a green orb-cast dragon before it's even done anything. So the green orb is weaker overall.

  • @CinoMTG
    @CinoMTG Жыл бұрын

    The friggin wink after that pun OML! I love it

  • @danielsheraton5433
    @danielsheraton5433 Жыл бұрын

    This couldn't have come at a better time, thanks so much!

  • @filipealmeida1404
    @filipealmeida1404 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing suggestions, thanks so much for the video! You are awesome!

  • @jaydub5515
    @jaydub5515 Жыл бұрын

    Nice deck techs this dragon is definitely getting popular fast

  • @KingKoral
    @KingKoral Жыл бұрын

    I'd personally cut Dragonlord's Servant and Dragonspeaker Shaman for cards like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds and Bloom Tender. They're much more effective since they provide colored mana for EVERY spell, not just Dragons. Also since there's Savage Ventmaw I'd propose adding Aggravated Assault for infinite Red/Green mana and combat steps and it'd do way more good than lone Sarkhan Unbroken. What I've also learned from years of playing The Ur-Dragon is that cards like Chart a Course are super helpful every time you draw them (Dana Roach style) - since Dragons are high-costed, you want/have to pack ALL the possible support at low CMC.

  • @stoiccrane4259

    @stoiccrane4259

    Жыл бұрын

    selvala is excellent. I love that card but it's not exacly budget friendly. For an end build it's fantastic though.

  • @somerando6215
    @somerando6215 Жыл бұрын

    You know what would be great for this deck as a semi-board wipe? Perplexing Test. It doesn't get rid of your opponent's tokens if you choose to bounce non-tokens but it let you do your Miirym thing all over again. It also can just be a way to wipe someone who made a tone of treasures the previous turn.

  • @jollyrogers18
    @jollyrogers18 Жыл бұрын

    Spark Double on Miirym followed by a kicked Rite of Replication is tons of fun.

  • @NateSix2Six
    @NateSix2Six Жыл бұрын

    quick rundown for you, I build a deck by cut rate commander. Played some friends 2 other dragon decks and a vamp on. One of those dragon decks was tiamat, the other was the new guy firkraag, I was playing copy boy. The short of it is I was able to get 2 earthquake dragons and a bunch of others due to me being able to flicker them and I was able to do around 60 damage to end the game knocking out the other 3 players. This is one of the better dragons for sure.

  • @captcharisma02
    @captcharisma02 Жыл бұрын

    my cards are taking ages to come for this deck! the testing has been so much fun, can't wait to do it for real.

  • @osvaldoramirez805
    @osvaldoramirez805 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy the jokes and recommendations that you do with upping the average. I would recommend a video on how to use edhec for our own research and efficiency. I'm relatively new to edhrec and I want ideas but I dont want to copy a decklist

  • @danielmulchrone3740
    @danielmulchrone3740 Жыл бұрын

    God I've been waiting for this! Exciting

  • @blupinto1629
    @blupinto1629 Жыл бұрын

    always great content

  • @subiskier1
    @subiskier1 Жыл бұрын

    Joey, never give up on the punnery!

  • @vauk5081
    @vauk5081 Жыл бұрын

    I have an Ur-Dragon deck I've been running since it came out, it's been consitently tuned over the years. I might actually break it apart to build a similiar list. Thanks for the video!

  • @serafimb2319

    @serafimb2319

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe i can inspire you: I wanted to make an Animar-Elemental-Tribal deck, but not with Animar as the Commander. Now i have Horde of Notions as the commander (5 colors), but it is primarily a Animar-colored deck, very few cards of the other colors. Maybe that would be a cool route with dragons. Technically a 5color deck with ur-dragon as commander but a Miryym deck at heart

  • @spamcan2284
    @spamcan2284 Жыл бұрын

    So far no one seems to ever include Worldgorger Dragon in any of these lists. It can create infinite ETB's and with Scourge of Valkus/Warstorm surge/Terror of the Peaks/Dragon Tempest it can end the game. Astral Dragon is another star in this deck and goes infinite with Cursed Mirror. It also gets crazy with a doubler like parallel lives or doubling season. Also, no love for Monster Manual or Elvish Piper? Both can force opponents to use up interaction spells and if they don't you can cheat out big dragons for very little mana after they're cast. I run a handful of ramp/support creatures in this deck like Adrix & Nev, Augur of Autumn, Beast Whisperer, Displacer Kitten, Elvish Piper, Goreclaw, goblin anarchomancer, Sakashima, Selvala, Toski, and a few others. If you add a Maskwood Nexus they all ETB as dragons and you get double the fun! Miirym is so good. This deck has been winning a lot for me so far but be prepared for hate. You need some protection like darksteel plate/boots/greaves or Miirym gets killed on site. Heroic intervention is also nice because once you get going people REALLY want to wipe your board.

  • @LifeHacksMP

    @LifeHacksMP

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate these suggestions- based on the deck he created, what would you trade out for some of the cards you mentioned here? Additionally, I have lightning greaves already, should I double down with darksteel? I really like the idea of having displacer kitten (easily my favorite baulder's gate card, it's so adorable), monster manual, and elvish piper- would you put all 3 in to replace some of the early ramp? I really like maskwood nexus too, especially considering some of the benefits the non-dragons would get from the land cards in this set.

  • @Antare5
    @Antare5 Жыл бұрын

    I know it currently doesn't have the amount of data you look for when making these videos, but I would love to see you take look into Duke Ulder Ravengard, the equal/opposite to Araumi of the Dead Tide.

  • @MisterAssasine
    @MisterAssasine Жыл бұрын

    Changeling Berserker is an infinite combo with 2 Miiryms as well, which is fairly easy by using any of our copy spells on Miirym

  • @jailpk3d
    @jailpk3d Жыл бұрын

    Hey! I would really enjoy if you did an upping the average on Elminster at some point in the future :)

  • @pixelbomb97
    @pixelbomb97 Жыл бұрын

    HOW THE F--- DID I COMPLETELY MISS WIZARDS MAKING AN UNCOMMON SPARK DOUBLE. Brb I'm gonna go order 6 copies of irrenicus's vile duplication.

  • @hiddenleaf414

    @hiddenleaf414

    Жыл бұрын

    They aren’t really that close since Spark Double is a permanent but still a great 4 drop uncommon.

  • @pixelbomb97

    @pixelbomb97

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hiddenleaf414 yeah, bit that only matters for Gyruda and the like. I run Spark double in my Talrand deck and this being a sorcery makes it much better in that deck.

  • @Wistbacka

    @Wistbacka

    Жыл бұрын

    I bought a playset as soon as they released. 😊 A tip for any Miirym player: a very budget way to copy Miirym is with Identity thief. When it attacks, exile Miirym. At end step, Miirym returns, triggering the copy effect of the Thief-Miirym giving you a non-legendary copy of Miirym. Then legend rule trigger and you sacrifice the Thief.

  • @walls_of_skulls6061
    @walls_of_skulls6061 Жыл бұрын

    i really like crystal shard in this deck, provides both a soft form of protection and lets you recur etbs

  • @Rootsradical808
    @Rootsradical808 Жыл бұрын

    Still working on my deck but got lurking predator and passage enchantment in it. Thinking about mana echoes as well

  • @rickrand8041
    @rickrand8041 Жыл бұрын

    Changeling Berserker. No one seems to have caught on to this tech yet. Goes straight up infinite with Miirym and Terror of the Peaks at a minimum, but can also go off in half a dozen other ways if you have a more developed board. Just need to be able to kill the Miirym token copy of Changeling so you can get the original back after champion blinking something else. Changeling Titan does the same thing, and Panharmonicon can make the original blink two targets, and the copy blink the original and then sac itself. Crazy powerful combo card and its in like 0% of decks. Figure it out internet.

  • @DutchSnake

    @DutchSnake

    Жыл бұрын

    How does Berserker goes infinite with just Miirym in play? Mathematically you'll need at least 3 copy's ETB to go infinite. It does however goes infinite with Scourge of Valkas & Miirym in play.

  • @rickrand8041

    @rickrand8041

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DutchSnake Miirym and Terror of the Peaks is what I said. You need some way to kill the token berserker after it bounces the original. So Terror of the Peaks, Scourge of Valkas, Dragon Tempest or even a Panharmonicon can allow for infinite ETB/LTB and in the case of the first three infinite damage.

  • @howtyplcal350
    @howtyplcal350 Жыл бұрын

    Can we get an Upping the Average of “Myrkul, Lord of Bones”? As an avid DnD fan it would be so cool to make a deck with him!

  • @LifeHacksMP

    @LifeHacksMP

    Жыл бұрын

    2nded!

  • @shysonolmos2916
    @shysonolmos2916 Жыл бұрын

    I think one thing about this dragon deck was that once Miirym hits the board and you start copying dragons it tends to speed up a lot so sarkhan didn’t make the cut for me the ultimate doesn’t ever go off because most of the time the games over by the time I get there

  • @ChanChan-ms2dz
    @ChanChan-ms2dz Жыл бұрын

    Maybe an update to Ur-Dragon deck next post-Bulders Gate?

  • @Zookmottin
    @Zookmottin Жыл бұрын

    Approval of the MJ intro.

  • @swisscheez95
    @swisscheez95 Жыл бұрын

    Good call on Irenicus's Vile Duplication, but Double Major does essentially the same thing at instant speed for 2 mana less

  • @stoiccrane4259

    @stoiccrane4259

    Жыл бұрын

    You have to have both cards in hand and if the creature gets countered it's a 2 for 1. Irenicus hits whatever is already on board making it a safer option.

  • @mitrimind1027
    @mitrimind1027 Жыл бұрын

    Having flickers is nice in this deck, mine is a lowkey etb deck with panharmonicon in it and all the other etb effects.

  • @Theonewhoknocks87104
    @Theonewhoknocks87104 Жыл бұрын

    i would love to see Tivit Seller of secrets on upping the average, I feel like he is very powerful and has a TON of potential

  • @FlamegamerEXT
    @FlamegamerEXT Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you're trying to change the intro, sometimes the lead-ups to the puns really do dragon...

  • @MitchT97
    @MitchT974 ай бұрын

    Awesome deck! I’m building one similar myself. Could I recommission Echoing equation? Turn a couple dragons into your commander and your Panharmonicon might need a vacation after it’s done causing so many additional triggers 😅

  • @pgtowner
    @pgtowner Жыл бұрын

    Joey did you ever consider running Icefall Regent in there? It doesn’t hit as many targets as Juvenile Mist but the pre-ward effect being doubled seems good?

  • @TheSeffer21
    @TheSeffer21 Жыл бұрын

    @EDHRECast great video! I know she's a little older, but I'd love to see an upping the average video for Kess, Dissident Mage! Her or Zevlor, Elturel Exile

  • @PoopKingg
    @PoopKingg Жыл бұрын

    Please do either Elsha of the Infinite or Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest next. With prowess being an archetype of Double Masters 2022 it will be nice to give the new cards a home.

  • @brianrichards7441

    @brianrichards7441

    Жыл бұрын

    I love Shu Yun. Nothing like a big wind up and taking out opponents with one swift kick in the ….

  • @Murwiz
    @Murwiz Жыл бұрын

    I found a couple of interesting cards I'm trying in my build: Descendents' Path and Mirror of Life Trapping.

  • @Murwiz

    @Murwiz

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, I would recommend Colossal Majesty over Elemental Bond, as the former will draw you a card every turn.

  • @K_Swift
    @K_Swift Жыл бұрын

    I love the puns! Keep them in. Let the puns flow; the haters can kick rocks 😊

  • @leonardwisniewski3418
    @leonardwisniewski3418 Жыл бұрын

    Nice, I just built Miirym as budget.

  • @ignition8047
    @ignition80475 ай бұрын

    Is there any way to speed up this deck? In my games im dead by trun 5 before i can get anything going when i play Miurym

  • @seanscott4543
    @seanscott4543 Жыл бұрын

    Miirym² sounds like so much fun

  • @walterrodriguez4325

    @walterrodriguez4325

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh it's absolutely disgusting

  • @7swordquanta459
    @7swordquanta459 Жыл бұрын

    There's a card in Unfinity called "Ignacio of Myra's Marvels." It's not a dragon but it can be helpful to bring out your big beefy dragons. If it ETBs, you can choose among fang, fire, sword, etc. If you cast a spell that has an artwork of the selected word, you get 2 tokens. And most dragons would either have fangs or fire on their artworks so... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @zacharybecker8228
    @zacharybecker8228 Жыл бұрын

    the red one giving haste can be clutch and taking out rhythm i agree with but id replace it with fires of yavimaya it gives haste which is very important to make sure u always have to get value the turn ur dragons drop and if need be can be sacrificed to give a alight buff and for the budget i really like crucible of fire but unnatural growth could be a better offensive enchantment

  • @erickcolon1670
    @erickcolon1670 Жыл бұрын

    Wait, so I'm the only one that if I don't have enough time to watch the whole video, I'll watch the intro to see the pun, then come back to finish the video afterwards?

  • @caseysheehe1148
    @caseysheehe1148 Жыл бұрын

    Simic copy spell for 2cmc - Double major from Strixhaven. I feel its like a strict upgrade to Irenicus's Vile Duplication, and if its not an upgrade, it could be an easy to cast substitute.

  • @Lith5484

    @Lith5484

    Жыл бұрын

    Double major is a very good card, I think it’s only drawback is that you must copy the spell while it’s on the stack, so you’re racking an additional 2 mana onto whatever spell you have to copy and that can be a bit clunky, especially in games where you haven’t drawn much ramp. The advantage of the vile duplication is you can copy something already on board, which allows you to split up the cost of the copy into different installments

  • @JonathanDoliver

    @JonathanDoliver

    Жыл бұрын

    Double Major is good but still far worse than Irenicus's since it puts you 2 turns off-tempo

  • @TheDemonicMessiah
    @TheDemonicMessiah Жыл бұрын

    Have you considered door of destinies to pump all of the dragons?

  • @thomasbuege8074
    @thomasbuege8074 Жыл бұрын

    I would add a Monster Manual as well allowing you to drop a big dragon for 2 mana

  • @sharklazerboy9529
    @sharklazerboy9529 Жыл бұрын

    Some stupid combos: Old Gnawbone + Hellkite Tyrant Damage = treasures, treasures = win Miirym + Prowler's Helm + Thrakkus the Butcher Can you block a 24/6 with flying, ward 2, and can only be blocked by walls? You can't? Ok, you die. Earthquake dragon + Rite of Replication + Warstorm Surge Yes, I just played a 10/10 for one mana, which gets copied. You take 20 damage directly to you. Oh, and I also copy it 5 times, so take 50 more damage to the face Earthquake Dragon + Traverse the Outlands I'm searching my library for 10 lands, cry about it.

  • @RANDOMPIGETTI
    @RANDOMPIGETTI Жыл бұрын

    With cursed mirror would it trigger miirym? It says when it enters you can have it become a copy, not that it enters as a copy of. Miirym wouldn't see a dragon entering, she'd see an artifact becoming a copy of a dragon

  • @kleosD

    @kleosD

    Жыл бұрын

    As per gatherer, any enters-the-battlefield abilities of the copied creature will trigger when Cursed Mirror enters the battlefield. Any “As [this creature] enters the battlefield” or “[This creature] enters the battlefield with” abilities of the copied creature will also work.

  • @brianclevenger4255
    @brianclevenger4255 Жыл бұрын

    Wrathful Red = quite good Wrathful Red+Blasphemous =Win

  • @bamjo9
    @bamjo9 Жыл бұрын

    Can you try to do Kelsien? I went to 8 iterations of the deck and cannot make it work

  • @thony_reis
    @thony_reis Жыл бұрын

    Who is crazy not to like the puns at the beginning of the videos? Tell me, I'll EDHwRECk 'em

  • @RenegadeVash
    @RenegadeVash Жыл бұрын

    Funny way to build this is shapeshifters where you create infinite miirym by having all your clones target him creating non legendary tokens of miirym.

  • @omarmuniz1497
    @omarmuniz1497 Жыл бұрын

    If you add panharmonics, it will trigger Myrim an additional time for 3 bodies.

  • @dantebeleren
    @dantebeleren Жыл бұрын

    Joey, I'm confused by your... chest garment. Is it a shirt with pockets? A jacket with a V-Neck? Multiple layers and I'm just confused?! I need answers!

  • @eLECHtricity
    @eLECHtricity Жыл бұрын

    The cursed mirror wont create a token, as it becomes a copy after entering the battlefield

  • @kleosD

    @kleosD

    Жыл бұрын

    As per gatherer, any enters-the-battlefield abilities of the copied creature will trigger when Cursed Mirror enters the battlefield. Any “As [this creature] enters the battlefield” or “[This creature] enters the battlefield with” abilities of the copied creature will also work.

  • @eLECHtricity

    @eLECHtricity

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kleosD my mistake, I read cursed mirror as saying, "when cursed mirror enters the battlefield" as opposed to "as cursed mirror enters the battlefield"

  • @markc6571
    @markc6571 Жыл бұрын

    Keep Rythem of the Wild in. The tokens created do infact enter as copies of the non-token with Riot stapled onto them. It's identical to Mirror March.

  • @brianclevenger4255

    @brianclevenger4255

    Жыл бұрын

    The tokens will not have haste. It's not an effect that is copied, just like any of the token copies of dragons that are cast with orbs.

  • @razgrizbankai

    @razgrizbankai

    Жыл бұрын

    Keep rhythm of the wild in not for the haste you keep it in as it stops you big dragons getting countered so you can actually get the tokens in the first place because if they are countered you get nothing the haste on the non token is just a bonus

  • @brianclevenger4255

    @brianclevenger4255

    Жыл бұрын

    @@razgrizbankai Yup, def not saying it's a bad card. Just pointing out that isn't how Rhythm/ Mirror March work.

  • @cheynewellington

    @cheynewellington

    Жыл бұрын

    @@razgrizbankai the can't be countered is why I keep it in, riot is just gravy. Would hate to have Miirym countered on her 1st cast. It'll put you back quite far

  • @tjeffrey3465
    @tjeffrey3465 Жыл бұрын

    Won’t be the same without the intro puns

  • @rubyseverinwhitworth9066
    @rubyseverinwhitworth9066 Жыл бұрын

    When you use Cursed Mirror and other similar effects you can't copy Miirym though right? Like they would be legendary and be sacrificed

  • @Tristan-2016

    @Tristan-2016

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, you copy the non-legendary tokens Miirym makes.

  • @emperorpenguinv7193

    @emperorpenguinv7193

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it is way better to copy miirym, you can even build this deck as clone tribal. You make a copy of him (eg with clone), myriim sees the copy and makes a non legendary token of himself. You have to sac the clone but now you have 2 miiryms and one of them is non legendary! Now you can begin copying the non legendary token and you get exponentially more miiryms. Or you can then flicker the original miirym and the copy tokens of him trigger their effects. I bet you could build a deck without any dragons, only flicker and cloning and it would work well

  • @johnjohnson-wg7jv
    @johnjohnson-wg7jv Жыл бұрын

    Okay I have a weird thought about Crucible of Fire. For a dragon deck it is best to not include it unless there are a lot of dragon decks in your meta. Dragons are big, and usually will be the biggest creatures on board. With all the additional dragons that can pump attack the crucible is largely a win more type of card to me. In my dragon deck it usually just sat around and only slightly increased my damage, or did nothing. Another dragon was always preferable. However, when I was facing another dragon deck, and they played a Crucible of Fire the card was suddenly terrifying. Not because of the additional damage, but because now practically none of my dragons could attack and kill his dragons. It's a fine card, but I'd only recommend it if you know your local meta is full of dragons.

  • @walterrodriguez4325

    @walterrodriguez4325

    Жыл бұрын

    Funny you mention that, I played an astral dragon to copy an opponent's crucible of fire twice for my own benefit, creating 4 of them thanks to Miirym so I have a ton of dragons that came in hot with haste at +12/+12, it gets nuts

  • @eddiee2693
    @eddiee2693 Жыл бұрын

    Hey mr can you do a Mizzix of the Izmagnus deck tech

  • @vicenteiiporciuncula1158
    @vicenteiiporciuncula1158 Жыл бұрын

    I was making a Dragonless Miirym list, then you upload this. As much as I adore this series, I am afraid to have too many decks. I have made Yuriko, Prosper, Kyler, Greven, Chatterfang, etc... all because of this series. I may have to unsubscribe soon. More power to this series!

  • @captainjax9716
    @captainjax9716 Жыл бұрын

    Iv'e added a Mirror box to my deck and it can get out of hand pretty quickly

  • @Deviltrigger44
    @Deviltrigger44 Жыл бұрын

    I would still put rhythm of the wild because it's guarantee your dragon to enter the field since Miirym is about etb not cast

  • @jcstaff1007
    @jcstaff1007 Жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, I hesitated to click because of the puns. Now i just feel bad we’re not letting you do what you love. But the list and ideas are pretty solid

  • @walls_of_skulls6061
    @walls_of_skulls6061 Жыл бұрын

    irenicus's vile duplication seems kinda nutty, can't you target Miirym with that? Then you have a legendary and nonlegendary version of you duplication, so every dragon that etbs makes two copies instead of one. It's doing the whole job of doubling season

  • @chrisbos7696
    @chrisbos7696 Жыл бұрын

    🤨How can ppl not like ur Puns and dad jokes?? Those are the MAIN reason i watch. That and the actual content ofc :)

  • @XTheCrystalBeastGuyX
    @XTheCrystalBeastGuyX Жыл бұрын

    With commander, rapacious dragon, and deadeye Navigator you have infinite mana as well. If you have something out that gives haste you win by beat down. My pods know to always target me when he's my commander because of all the crazy plays I do.

  • @walterrodriguez4325

    @walterrodriguez4325

    Жыл бұрын

    +1 for deadeye navigator, although I run it with Ganax

  • @XTheCrystalBeastGuyX

    @XTheCrystalBeastGuyX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@walterrodriguez4325 I play both but my reason for Rapacious is because if you run Temur Ascendency then flickering Ganax will cause you to deck out by mandatory draw. I play concordant crossroad and dragon tempest as well for haste but in some situations if Temur is there then you have to go with what you're given.

  • @nogard0497
    @nogard0497 Жыл бұрын

    Kodama of the East Tree is underrated in that deck. I suggest a flicker version of the deck.

  • @lightfut
    @lightfut Жыл бұрын

    never stop punning

  • @scottcampbell9515
    @scottcampbell9515 Жыл бұрын

    Take flight with your puns!

  • @rafaelmaldonado751
    @rafaelmaldonado751 Жыл бұрын

    Bring it on. We can endure the PUN-ishment!

  • @ebontatro9631
    @ebontatro9631 Жыл бұрын

    I'm determined to steal all their dragons with Tyrant of Jund

  • @abdalafadhil9762
    @abdalafadhil9762 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do Roon please!!!

  • @Str8upWizardCJ
    @Str8upWizardCJ Жыл бұрын

    Nice puns, i made a d&d only miirym build and use 37 lands 68 mana sources maybe.

  • @jkabanas
    @jkabanas Жыл бұрын

    idk why people dont play Harrow more, you get two lands (can be different colors) and they dont come in tapped. Second harvest as a cheap closer. Monster's Manual has come in use for me, with lots of treasure and a ton of card draw (thanks to silver dragon, sea gate restoration, windfall, wheel of misfortune, etc.) and your astral dragon, you can dump a bunch of big dragons out in one turn. Reckless Barbarian accelerates you or miirym super early. With so much red and green, Goblin Anarchomancer is better than Dragonlord's Servant as it hits all of your red and green spells, not just dragons and costs less. Like Glasspool Mimic, Bala Ged Recovery can get back one of your better dragons after removal, or can be a much needed land, same with Sea Gate Restoration. This has turned out to be one of my most brutal decks, my playgroup is not loving miirym haha

  • @jeremyobriant7266
    @jeremyobriant7266 Жыл бұрын

    The quote, "...and with a brand new dragon like Miirym with a brand new take on dragons" is exactly what drew me to building Miirym--that, and playing it on MTG Arena during that dragon event. I've not one time had a desire to build a dragons deck, until I played Miirym. I knew it would be a popular commander, and I try to avoid the top commanders, but I have enjoyed playing Miirym so much in Historical Brawl that I started building Miirym in paper. Once I realized how much the most powerful cards in the deck are (Terror of the Peaks, mainly), I was a little disappointed but I still have a half-built deck using a couple of proxies until I can (if I do) pick up the more expensive cards. Miirym is an amazing card design. Perhaps it's a little overpowered, but it's so much fun. Also, in regards to the clones copying the nonlegendary dragons, if you run the legendary Kamigawa dragons (mainly the new ones, but it works with the old ones as well), you can copy the legendary version, create a nonlegendary copy, and get a copy that does, triggering it's dies trigger. 👍🏼

  • @skullkrusher-dx4kg
    @skullkrusher-dx4kg Жыл бұрын

    Ive been a dragon player for a long time and i have to say i just cut the 8 drops.

  • @teenytinymaracas33
    @teenytinymaracas33 Жыл бұрын

    No mention of double major? Copy Miirym with it (token is non legendary) then Flicker the hell out of the orginal. What's better than double dragons?? Triple or Quadruple dragons.

  • @Deathwalker526
    @Deathwalker526 Жыл бұрын

    I put miirym into my Tiamat deck and the entire idea is to double up every dragon I tutor with Tiamat and then flicker Tiamat to do it again. It’s gross and I feel bad every time I play it 😅

  • @Wistbacka
    @Wistbacka Жыл бұрын

    Firkraag always seem to get a lot of hate whenever I play him. So keeping him is nice. Make ppl concentrate their removal on him and puppeteering their creatures to go kill themselves is fun.

  • @Maw_thuugn
    @Maw_thuugn Жыл бұрын

    I just thought you would have some long winded intro and then apologize for having it 'dragon'

  • @panga910317
    @panga910317 Жыл бұрын

    This commander is cool, but it's so easy to break that keeps me from really liking it.

  • @spudster8887
    @spudster8887 Жыл бұрын

    The average deck shows me people Are FAR too focussed on just playing dragons. It's going to be so damn slow when I think the best way to play miirym is run like 15-18 really good dragons and then play tricky stuff to get more of those good dragons

  • @DoctorOctoconapus
    @DoctorOctoconapus Жыл бұрын

    I think Sleep is just way better than Juvenile Mist Dragon

  • @fassin666
    @fassin666 Жыл бұрын

    Aw, y’all changed the intro music? Well, it’ll grow on me I guess

  • @Sdizzle7
    @Sdizzle7 Жыл бұрын

    First of all... It's a sin to not have Doubling Seasons in this deck, not just for the token copies, but it allows you to Ultimate with Sarkhan immediately and win the game. I also strongly disagree with cutting Firkraag out of a copy deck, especially with tokens coming in with haste. So many times I have bypassed opposing strong flyers from hitting me, and allows me to backdoor swing on their tapped creature.

  • @Wistbacka
    @Wistbacka Жыл бұрын

    Nooo. Not the bounce lands for budget. Just add in snow-duals instead

  • @spudster8887

    @spudster8887

    Жыл бұрын

    What are you talking about bounce lands are also good? Yes you should play the green snow duels since your nature's lore can grab them. But bounce lands gain value in a world where we play both mdfcs and the neo channel lands.

  • @Wistbacka

    @Wistbacka

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@spudster8887 Fair enough. I just think they are too slow tbh. Unless you really need the land etb (landfall) or in your particular examples, then they are not really that useful.

  • @spudster8887

    @spudster8887

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wistbacka I'm beginning to think atleast running 1 is the right answer nowadays for the number of lands that can also be spells, like mdfcs and channel lands. And the fact you get the mana you lose by playing a tapped land on your next turn usually makes them perfectly fine unless you're playing high power. They aren't a strict loss like a normal tap land they also ensure you have a land drop next turn which can be nice. I should clarify I don't really play them either, but for a budget player who doesn't have the cards we likely have they're good. I do wanna test what I said about running 1 for bouncing an mdfc or channel land tho

  • @holyknightamax4833
    @holyknightamax4833 Жыл бұрын

    just tutor miirym with tiamat as a commander

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