Honestly, most people would probably come away from that movie thinking, "maybe a civil war isn't such a good idea" and I think that's a great message

@docequis9796

2 ай бұрын

The propaganda with this movie is that 1) we are headed for civil war and 2) the press aren't the enemy and shouldn't be blamed. Only one of those things is true.

@jeffreylucia2499

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Once people's reality TV stops streaming, young people go crazy.

@docequis9796

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffreylucia2499 The propaganda with this movie is that 1) we are headed for civil war and 2) the press aren't the enemy and shouldn't be blamed. Only one of those things isn't true.

@Kwildcat13

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffreylucia2499haha true .. look at how people are loosing their minds over tic tok

@ruck27

2 ай бұрын

That’s the point of the entire movie. It was a propaganda film

The most unrealistic part of the movie was that the president was inside the White House. If there was a civil war happening on this scale he would have been held in the most secure bunker in the world, probably embedded inside a mountain and in a top secret location. I was expecting a surprise twist where they find out he was not even in the White House.

@ethan4842

2 ай бұрын

I thought he would be in a bunker in the white house kinda like white house down

@Zurround

2 ай бұрын

@@ethan4842 Even that would have been more realistic. He was just in regular rooms? Yeah right.

@ETHANBLANK-ut3fv

2 ай бұрын

@@Zurround He wasn’t just in a regular room. HE WAS IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

@tuckinthemuffin1906

2 ай бұрын

The president wouldnt even be in the country lol

@camerongage1237

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I didn’t buy that they would wait that long to even send a decoy motorcade. I would think that they make a fake news report that he would be stay at the White House but he secretly escaped low-key with SS.

It was smart of them to make Texas and California allies. Great way to take partisan politics out of the movie.

@Nightshade1881

2 ай бұрын

The thing is that wouldn’t any proud American especially someone in the military fight against a fascist 3 term president? Cali and Texas have a huge military presence in real life and this film So to me it make perfect sense.

@user-gr2lr7ct7m

2 ай бұрын

Immigration is out of control. So it makes sense that the two largest border states California and Texas would unite in order to close the borders. That alliance could be call the Western Forces.

@user-tr2mb4xs7i

Ай бұрын

​@@Nightshade1881Even if Cali and Texas had a big military, they likely wouldn't win against the federal army, which the president controls.

@maxotto9877

Ай бұрын

​@@Nightshade1881 The movie never says whether the succession or the three term president came first Could be either, the 3 term could be due to the state of civil war or the succession due to the 3 term You aren't supposed to take sides, it's not about that. You see both sides committing horrendous war crimes throughout the film and you are often not sure who is who

@fuhque9132

Ай бұрын

@@maxotto9877 They heavily imply that the President was an authoritarian/wannabe dictator. 3 terms, abolished the FBI, was deploying the military against American citizens on American soil. IIRC, someone even mentions that the alliance between Texas and California would end after they accomplished their goal of killing the President, and that they would inevitably turn on each other; so they were united for a very specific cause. All of this taken together indicates to me that the President was an authoritarian and had to be removed by force.

Saw it last night. Appreciate that it wasn’t political at all. Instead it was just a brutal & violent road trip. 8/10 for me.

@soulsage1984

2 ай бұрын

It wasn't political? Thats like saying the FBI isn't political when it clearly is. This movie was a love letter to the FBI. The President wanted to disband the FBI, and he ends up getting killed by them.

@NiteOwl2000

2 ай бұрын

Isn’t this movie criticizing the concept of being apolitical?

@danielm8859

2 ай бұрын

@@NiteOwl2000not really. Most of the time you don’t really know who’s fighting for what. Or are from which group.

@FreedomTrident

2 ай бұрын

@@NiteOwl2000it’s pretty much criticizing the opposite, by showing the pointlessness of fighting

@FreedomTrident

2 ай бұрын

Or, the ultimate pointlessness and destruction created by partisanship

My favorite part was the very realistic alliance between Texas and California.

@EagleLeader1

2 ай бұрын

That was only done to make sure neither Republicans nor Democrats could co op the movie to their cause. It is an unlikely alliance yes but if they did it realistically then it makes one of the sides the good guy depending on the politics of the viewer. Regarding realism let's not forget that the 2 most polically opposite sides did at 1 point have an alliance, Nazi Germany and Soviet Union. Yes they were both deadly dictatorships but both their ideologies and even their leaders hated each other. The movie I believe even hints that as soon as the alliance takes the White House they'll most likely turn on each other, but don't quote me on that I only saw it once. So I may be am misremembering.

@Jkp1321

2 ай бұрын

The Director who is not an American responded by saying "Would they not team up to fight fascism" which tells you everything about the bias

@Dee-nonamnamrson8718

2 ай бұрын

​@EagleLeader1 Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were absolutely not the most opposite sides. The most opposite sides were America and Soviet Union. The Nazis were a lot closer to the U.S.S.R. than they were to American Republicanis..

@Jkp1321

2 ай бұрын

@@EagleLeader1 That just isn't realistic. Texas and California would annex the states around them to increase resources and establish buffers

@EagleLeader1

2 ай бұрын

@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 the only things in common between them were the way they enacted their policies. So death camps, forced labour, no freedoms, no real democratic voting etc. However, when it comes to the actual political ideas they are polar opposites. Name the similar policies and you'll find it harder to call them the same. The Right has been preaching that both Nazi Germany and Soviet Union were the same but that's a fantasy to frame current Leftist insanity as on par with old evils. You don't need to use the Left's petty tactics. This new comparison to me is like when the Left loves to call everyone on the Right racist. Little actual solid evidence but they just use it as a crutch. Also if they were so alike then why was it that long before Hitler gained power the Communist movement in Germany was already being attacked in the street by the young Nazi movement? If the actual policies were similar the German Communists would have allied with Nazis. Also don't use the whole because Nazis had 'Socialist' in their name. That's like saying North Korea is a democracy because it has 'Democratic' in the country's official name.

You forgot the part where the Dunst character took a photo of her dead journalist friend but then decided to delete the image. That was a turning point for her character but then her protege takes a photo of her death.

@Caracajou

2 ай бұрын

So she does get whacked? Awesome! Another liberal propagandist bites the dust!

@Kwildcat13

2 ай бұрын

Spoiler

@rs82302

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kwildcat13Maybe stay out of the comments in a movie review then. It's on you to avoid spoilers until you see the movie.

@brandoncruise6398

2 ай бұрын

Most movie reviews don’t give spoilers. It also helps to type “SPOILER AHEAD” before you type the rest of your comment. It is on you to avoid spoilers by not blurting them out of the blue without forewarning.

@grezdaed

2 ай бұрын

@@brandoncruise6398 That's weak-mind mentality. If you want to avoid spoilers, just watch the movie first before clicking on videos about the damn movie. Other people don't have to cater to your ineptitude. If you want to get a review before choosing to sacrifice time to watch it, simply look for a rating. If a movie is 6/10, it might be worth watching. A 8/10 or higher usually implies it's worth watching the movie. I give this movie a 6.5 for originality but it has a lower score because they made things too ambiguous.

I saw a very left-leaning (& somewhat infamous) reviewer, Grace Randolph complain that it didn't go far enough- because the British filmmaker elected to not favour one political side over the other... Interesting perspective from the so-called 'tolerant left'

@Charles-pf7zy

2 ай бұрын

well yeah, remember far cry 5?

@alexman378

2 ай бұрын

Bet she’d be mad if it were a pro right film

@mattcollins3591

Ай бұрын

She also said it wasn’t “well researched” .. I live near Charlottesville and dc. It’s exactly how portrayed lol I have no idea what she’s talking about.

@M.H.I.A.F.T.

Ай бұрын

She doesn't represent the entire left. Or very much of it.

@alexman378

Ай бұрын

@@M.H.I.A.F.T. She represents the sanest and least cult like side of it.

the male photographer character (who played Pablo Escobar in Netflix's "NARCOS") didnt stop getting sht faced drunk and stoned throughout the entire movie, not a bad way to wade through complete horrific chaotic madness....

The movie isn’t meant to be realistic. In the movie Kristen’s character even said “I took war photos across country hoping to send a message back home saying don’t start a war” in a way this movie is a message to us saying this is what would happen don’t do it. It’s not a political movie, it’s a movie about a war photographer and her perspective she doesn’t care about sides or views. She’s looking for the best shot the whole time. A lot of people missed that for some reason

@Sequins_

2 ай бұрын

👍

@TwoStacks217

Ай бұрын

You completely screwed up the first half of what she said she was talking about going through war zones in other countries

The establishment needs people to fight amongst themselves to continue their own crimes without all eyes on them.

@eddarby469

2 ай бұрын

They also need this to abolish the 2A. I believe that is why they are being over the top in your face to Constitutionalists.

@shadowpoet4398

2 ай бұрын

Divide et Impera

@bennyhill7487

2 ай бұрын

Interesting perspective.

@oscargrouch7962

2 ай бұрын

Do not forget to include the political elites who instigated it when the stuff hits the fan.

@joeblowe3180

Ай бұрын

This film is made by Europeans to sow dissent and division. It's typical of them

This movie wasn't made by hollywood. It's was made by an independent film company called A24. Independent movies are the futures of film history!!!

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

they may be independent, but they’re still mainstream Hollywood, just with a better track record 🤷🏻‍♂️

@thomass1891

2 ай бұрын

@@Sam_T2000 Do you not understand what independent means? By definition it’s not mainstream Hollywood

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

@@thomass1891 - it means they’re privately owned. (and I looked it up, they’re based out of New York, rather than Los Angeles)… but “Hollywood” isn’t a place or a company, it’s the Western movie industry in general, and A24 is already a big part of that, with their movies routinely starring well known actors, directed by big name directors, and earning numerous awards and nominations.

@blabla903

2 ай бұрын

​​@@Sam_T2000Hollywood is LITERALLY a town in LA county, California.

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

@@blabla903 - so are you saying the Hollywood city council is in charge of making mainstream movies, or what? I said “Hollywood,” not Hollywood.

It's alarming that people say almost casually say, "The country is coming apart." Think about that.

@vladimirhorowitz

2 ай бұрын

Well because people have been saying that for almost the entire country's history, except maybe for a brief respite in the 40s and 50s.

@oarfish1481

2 ай бұрын

That’s because no one saying that truly believes there will actually be a civil war. Every four years there’s a chance for one’s political party to be in power, so there’s no need for civil war because there’s always been that hope. I’m not saying there will never be a civil war, simply that it’s not an imminent enough possibility for people to say anything about it seriously at this point

@rob585

2 ай бұрын

@@vladimirhorowitzI dunno, I think the only times people have said the country’s coming apart are the 1850s, 1960s, and now. The rest of it has been pretty unified, relatively speaking

@shadowpoet4398

2 ай бұрын

The country's always falling apart, and being rebuilt, in an eternal cycle of death and rebirth of ideas. States are macrocosms of human nature.

@truegemrn

2 ай бұрын

Why is it alarming?

While I was watching this movie I kept thinking it would have been helpful if I had watched part 1, first.

@seabeechief99

2 ай бұрын

While I was watching this, I was wondering if I could get my money back....this just sucked, worse than 'Ishstar'!

@miniatureupcycler

2 ай бұрын

'Leave the World Behind' is part 1

@11bsavage64

2 ай бұрын

@@seabeechief99 just watched it and yes it was trash.

@user-tr2mb4xs7i

Ай бұрын

There is no part 1

@seabeechief99

Ай бұрын

@@11bsavage64 Ranger on!!🇺🇸👍

Tim Pool actually had a good quote on this. He said "Civil War is apolitical but from an anti-trump perspective. Meaning they don't outright say orange man bad but that's the premise." The film reminds me of that awful clip from The Newsroom, where the main character is showing off how he's non-partisan by critiquing the Right for being evil and the Left for...not winning enough elections. 🤣

@mekareactsandreviews3026

2 ай бұрын

The ONLY person on this entire planet who thinks that os Tim Pool...cause he's made Millions fearmongering a Civil War for yrs..He needed this to give him a talking about how this was somehow an attack on the right...And his stans ate it up blindly..

@validatedclassified2564

2 ай бұрын

Politics broke your brain.

@hughmungus7425

2 ай бұрын

@@validatedclassified2564 Wow, what a compelling argument. I'm sure it wasn't projection, like, at all.

@PhunnyMunny

2 ай бұрын

​@@hughmungus7425don't you just love these people's useless platitudes?

@orlock20

2 ай бұрын

I believe the president is more akin to Putin than Trump.

The fact that reviewers/commenters from both sides are saying it's pretty non-partisan is credit to Garland. To those saying that California and Texas wouldn't team up.... that's kinda the point. If it'd been red vs blue states you lose the non-partisan aspect. The downside is that doing it that way does remove it's teeth to a degree. Fair play to the makers though.

@colt1033

2 ай бұрын

What about to those who say, who tf cares

@jaydawg116

2 ай бұрын

Nothing to say to them. They dont care.​@colt1033

@max.a.trillion3217

2 ай бұрын

boring movie. Leave the world behind has more balls than this slow burner.

@kathyp1563

2 ай бұрын

The texas/California collaboration defies geography. was that ever explained??

@fox1actual

2 ай бұрын

It was definitely partisan. You have to be low IQ or politically illiterate to not see it.

It really struck me as a kind of warning about what could happen should we have a civil war. I don’t want a civil war but, we all know that it could happen. We definitely need to seek a reunification of the country before this kind of thing actually does happen.

@Wolf88888

2 ай бұрын

No, the Left needs to go back to obeying the law and loyalty to America.

@denroy3

2 ай бұрын

Yawn. It was unintelligent drivel without a coherent theme or genuine plot. Unless you think photojournalist plus a young person that should not have been with them, racing to the White House to witness the execution of the bad president, is some kind of message.

@mastershake4641

2 ай бұрын

Im the opposite, I think it shows we need to divorce amicably before something bad happens. There is no reunification.

@Charles-pf7zy

2 ай бұрын

america is too good of a geographical position. my money is on federalization (no that does not mean the feds get more power) and each region keeps to themselves aside from trade and military

@Charles-pf7zy

2 ай бұрын

maybe instead of a standing army we have 50 state national guards under 2-3 commands (nat guard east, south + mid west, west) that will sometimes cooperate if a foreign war is needed,

Honestly my biggest gripe with this movie is that Jesse Plemmons was only in it for about 5 minutes! Half the reason I showed up was because he was in the film!

@AaronCurtright

2 ай бұрын

Atleast you got 5 minutes of Plemmons, I just wanted an explanation of how California and Texas wound up on the same team!

@luislaplume8261

2 ай бұрын

​@@AaronCurtrightEasy! It is because many liberals move to Texas in order to make it blue and vote for Democrats. And in reality it was the Democrats who fired on Fort Sumter in South Carolina in April 1861 without provocation and in the year before it was the Democrats who stormed the Federal Government forts as civilians so that the American soldiers would not fire on them.

@mastershake4641

2 ай бұрын

@@AaronCurtright I would have settled for california and texas being in the movie

@LTProductions335

2 ай бұрын

​@AaronCurtrighAs a californian. The top half of california would absolutly align with texas.

@AaronCurtright

2 ай бұрын

@@LTProductions335 When are you guys signing up for Greater Idaho?👍

"Hollywood" seldom if ever makes "movies" about Communism, Leftists etc..etc..etc....I wonder why?

@dark_unit2409

2 ай бұрын

This ain’t even Hollywood… A24 a whole separate ass company

@davidwell686

2 ай бұрын

@@dark_unit2409 Better yet! Why doesn't that separate ass company make some movies about the Communists, Leftists....etc..start with that Russian Collusion Hoax....

@belstar1128

2 ай бұрын

yea that would be refreshing when did the last movie with bad communists come out or at least something vaguely resembling it anything after the 80s?

@Pheer777

2 ай бұрын

@@dark_unit2409Ah yes, “Hollywood Inc”, my favorite company

@gregb6334

Ай бұрын

A good recent hollywood movie mocking communism is Death of Stalin, should check it out. Very surprising that movie was made. Full on satirical movie though if that’s not your thing.

A wise man called it a Lamborghini with no engine.

@Hoscitt

2 ай бұрын

Critical drinker?

@matthewphelps5136

2 ай бұрын

@@Hoscitt wrong you are not And I should have been more specific. A drunk, wise Man, there, fixed it.

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

it’s not a perfect movie, but what it gets right is gets incredibly right… and the stuff it gets wrong aren’t exactly bad, just could’ve been better. Drinker can have his opinions, but I have to disagree with him on this one.

Notice how they delivered the story from the perspective of the media ? The good guys, doing good work, to document the most important story in our history. Never noticing that it was they that caused the whole thing. ( because there is profit in those lies )

@kimieann1975

Ай бұрын

Is it really their fault though? Or ours and our need to have an enemy ? Personally I'm going with all of this is our fault. We are doing this to ourselves.

@ronaldbeck1762

Ай бұрын

@@kimieann1975 ... Do you blame the person fighting for a good cause ... or the organization that convinced him the cause was good with deliberate lies ?

@kimieann1975

Ай бұрын

@ronaldbeck1762 Depends. How many times has the person been told such things and continually falls for it? If it's the first time- forgive, second- okay let's hope they've learned something, 3rd + I blame the person. You can only fiegn ignorance for so long.

@kimieann1975

Ай бұрын

@ronaldbeck1762 I no longer blame politicians, media, news. I blame us. They're simply giving us what we want. We click on the drama, we want an enemy, we want someone to hate. We are the problem.

@ronaldbeck1762

Ай бұрын

@@kimieann1975 ... Our 1st amendment freedom of the press was designed to create informed voters. BUT ... the media is also a " for profit " corporation. That means the news became a product for sale. That used to mean " if it bleeds, it leads ". Not anymore ... Now, division and conflict creates angry readers and they are more profitable. Face it ... hate of President Trump and conservatives is a profit point they exploit every day ...

The one reason this movie isn't total garbage is that it comes from a production company that is hyper aware of what's going on. A24 isn't your typical Hollywood production company they are "independent" and kind of do what they want. A lot of their movies are hit or miss. But they all definitely have a different feel than your typical Hollywood movie.

@absurdh3ro

2 ай бұрын

Vanguard/blackrock money isn’t heavily involved

@johnnotrealname8168

2 ай бұрын

They are probably the best film studio. High-Brow enough to bring in solid talent but independent enough to test your intellect.

@fletchbundy

2 ай бұрын

They've released maybe 1 or 2 good films and they're mostly praised for the lie they aren't tour typical Hollywood studio.... Yet they keep winning Hollywood awards. They release a lot of alphabet crap like 2 Oscar winners in Moonlight & Everything blah blah at once. They're so outside the system that the system isn't praise and award then enough... It's a lie that they're a small independent studio outside Hollywood.

@johnnotrealname8168

2 ай бұрын

@@fletchbundy They are good filmmakers and are not in the Hollywood system.

@My-Name-Isnt-Important

2 ай бұрын

@@fletchbundy Yeah, A24 is deeply tied into the system of Hollywood, they try to appear as outside of it, but when you look at the awards their films get, and the type of woke films they make, you can easily spot their agenda and connections with how Hollywood operates. The independent title is just a smokescreen.

The biggest problem with this movie is that the journalist think that they are the only ones who have cameras. The Internet and social media have proven that we no longer need journalist to tell us their version of what really is happening in the world. This movie does not reflect that and instead Pushes the idea that somehow we need journalist to figure out what the truth is. There are literally millions of online journalists who will get no recognition from the mass media, but do a better job.

@sawoszao

2 ай бұрын

noticed how a lot of cellular network went down? they even comment that cellular phones are useless

@CrashNTheBoys2002

18 күн бұрын

@@sawoszaooh so suddenly people don’t know how cameras work?

@sawoszao

18 күн бұрын

@@CrashNTheBoys2002 suddenly its hard to publish anything by means of internet because it doesnt work… we’re back to papers/ tv news

@CrashNTheBoys2002

18 күн бұрын

@@sawoszao still doesn’t answer my question. Just like the old days, civilians recorded incidents and reported it to a news outlet. So Americans just forgot how to operate a phone camera, which by the way doesn’t need internet to record.

@sawoszao

18 күн бұрын

@@CrashNTheBoys2002 so why were there reporters in the old times?

The best thing about this movie is that it doesn't date itself by picking one side. It simply makes you think about the possibility of a war happening in America and what that would look like. It is timeless because of its non-partisan nature. If it had referenced to many real people or simply been "Texas v. Cali", it would've been forgotten in half a year. But instead it takes the high road and makes an interesting, thought-provoking film. Even though the end did seem rushed.

Ya I have to say, After 53 years in the US and knowing its modern American history. Its contribution to call it mainstream broadcast programming. I think that it's become so ingrained in our culture. I don't believe it can be separated no matter how dire the situation is. Nothing can be taken seriously. It has to be a manufacture entertainment spectacle. The camera will continue to roll, Band play, Right until the last inch of ship falls beneath the surface.

Journalists are heroic figures? Sorry but that is too much disbelief to suspend.

@monkeydog8681

14 күн бұрын

Well, I don't know if they're heroic but those war journalist are crazy. Our company had some journalist tagging along in the frontlines. We got pinned down. They got pinned down. Well that was 8 years ago so... Ancient history now.

Divide and conquer should be the real name of the movie ….

@jmillsey

2 ай бұрын

💯

@josueveguilla9069

2 ай бұрын

Agree 100%

@thomassenbart

2 ай бұрын

That does not work

@robertgallagher7734

2 ай бұрын

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. That was how we wound up supporting the USSR against Nazi Germany.

@UceScooter

2 ай бұрын

That will be the name of the prequel they'll make. Lol 😆

That " guy who's name I forget" is Wagner Moura and his acting talent is undisputed.

Here is what you all are NOT getting about this movie. The character development of the two female photographers. The old one became emotional at the end and involved herself to save the younger person. She could no longer be desensitized. The young one was sensitive and became desensitized and wasn't affected by her death. There are other lines that could be drawn to us and our generations becoming numb to what we are observing.

@ebufi7957

2 ай бұрын

It is a survival mechanism. The panic comes back later on.

WTF..."that guy who´s name I forget"...Narcos reminds you something?? How is it possible not recognize Wagner Moura?

@eduardosantacruz1306

2 ай бұрын

He dumb asf I don't think he watched Narcos

@daviddoucet2220

2 ай бұрын

Maybe some people never watched a series glorifying drug cartels. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@FelipeMondaini84

2 ай бұрын

@@daviddoucet2220 so based on your point of view...people should not see Godfather because is gonna glorify mafia? Nosense.

@daviddoucet2220

2 ай бұрын

@@FelipeMondaini84 You work for the cartel?

@eliaspadilla876

2 ай бұрын

More than obvious because his LatinAmerican roots , what can you expect from tunnel vision Americans ?????

I thought the movie was just ok. You make some excellent points, Michael, but the lack of context made it all confusing to follow. We never really learn the motivations of the factions at even a base level beyond “we must kill the president.” Without understanding how the conflict began and why it continues, all the rampant violence feels very pointless. I would give it a 4 or 5. Very much middle of the road, but not unwatchable or anything. It has some poignant moments, but lacks a lot of narrative depth that’s so crucial to good storytelling. I would consider watching it again, unlike the Star Wars sequels, but it doesn’t hold a candle to something like Dune or Godzilla Minus One.

@explodingrubberducky797

2 ай бұрын

The movie was intentionally vague with the details of what led to the civil war, so that it wasn't accused of being biased. But they do mention that the president was in his 3rd term, abolished the FBI, among some other things. I believe the main point of the movie was to show a glimpse of what our society may look like during a modern civil war, through the lens of photo journalists on the front line.

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

remember the scene with the snipers? they keep asking what side they’re on, but all they say is “there’s a guy in that house trying to kill us, so we’re trying to kill him first.” the movie’s about the harsh realities of war, and not warfare specifically, and I think the movie is all the better for it.

@thomassenbart

2 ай бұрын

You don't understand the point of the movie if you are looking for a world view.

@explodingrubberducky797

2 ай бұрын

@@thomassenbart spot on

@EmperorNapoleon1815

2 ай бұрын

Fair points, all. It certainly felt like the most glaring message was “don’t do this,” and that came through very convincingly. I just felt they could have taken a more narrative approach and it would have been more intriguing and grand in scope, and would have been a better film for it. I’m not saying it did not accomplish its aims, but it subverted expectations somewhat and not in a way that hit it out of the park, at least for me.

The action and sound design are top tier. The last 30 minutes were some of the most intense I’ve seen in a theater

The vast majority of the criticisms of the film that i see are from people who are upset that the two sides were undefined and therefore people dont know who to root for. This is ironic because i think that is the purpose of the film. Its not about war or politics or good guys or bad guys. As far as i can tell it is about journalism and photo journalism, but more specifically, what journalism is supposed to be vs. What it is currently in America. Journalism is supposed to be an objective snapshot of the facts of what is currently happening. And that's exactly what the film is supposed to be. A photo of a conflict without the photographers opinions injected into it. So it is vey ironic that most peoples gripe is that they're not told who's side they should be on. I think it is threatening to many people because it forces them to confront the fact that instead of looking at the people that are putting civilians in a mass grave and a tyrannical government that is slaughtering its own citizenry, and saying to themselves "i dont care if that side is left or right, im on the side that is fighting that", they are actually saying "yes, well i see the atrocities that this one side is committing but i dont want to say that im againt them because what if they are are actually portraying the tribe that i belong to". If you see a photo of an atrocity being committed and your first instinct is to make sure that it is not your team committing it before eventually deciding whether or not to condemn it, then you have some soul searching to do.

@user-tr2mb4xs7i

Ай бұрын

Agreed, journalism is a central focus of the movie, as well as the transformation of the photojournalist protagonists

I just can’t get past the fact that the journalists are these honorable heroes. That tells me all I need to know.

@orlock20

2 ай бұрын

They can't be heroes if they don't do anything to influence anything.

@mastershake4641

2 ай бұрын

It made me think they are psychopaths after watching the movie. The movie was trash though so I dont recommend it.

@paolochang4142

2 ай бұрын

Tell me a scene where they actually do something heroic in this movie

@CaptainRandom69

Ай бұрын

@@mastershake4641it was not

Jesse Plemons the bad white man is Dunst's real-life husband.

@etherspin

2 ай бұрын

And he was offered a role early on, didn't want to play another sadistic killer, said no. The movie approached filming and an actor dropped out threatening to pause/thwart production so Plemons took the role to keep his wife's project happening Well her job I should say, not her project as such

@Nightshade1881

2 ай бұрын

And Y’all would bitch and cry if that role was given to a black man 🤣

@rangerscoach

2 ай бұрын

I know ita a

@Caracajou

2 ай бұрын

Ha! That is so cool!

@crisisactor420

2 ай бұрын

I thought he was believable though idk. I didn't really care that he was white, I bought it.

As a Canadian, it was funny to see CAD recognized as more valuable than USD. For me, it was mostly neighbour shooting neighbour and settling old scores, like the 1990's Balkans. Politics were never mentioned and my biggest impression was the idyllic country scenes followed by some random violence make for an interesting dichotomy.

Watching this video caused me to realize that I haven't seen a single movie since before the lockdowns. And I haven't missed them in the least. I hadn't even noticed their absence until this.

@RodneyKamusiime2004

2 ай бұрын

Damn, not one!? Yk it’s been 4 years right 😂

@belstar1128

2 ай бұрын

i didn't watch an movie in theatres between 2016 and 2022 i have watched a few recently but these days with KZread you can watch a lot of unique things that didn't exist before the internet movies haven't really improved since the year 2000 and even then the improvements in the 90s 80s 70s were just better special effects

This movie released in April.. President Lincoln was assassinated in April, General Lee of the Confederacy surrendered in April. April also is Confederate History month for some states.. interesting timing

@leonnunhofer3453

2 ай бұрын

Also Hitler was born in April. The San Francisco earthquake was in April. King Henry VIII started his reign in April. The Tian'aman square massacre was in April. Around 1/12 of all bad events ever happened in April. Very suspicious, that this movie is dropped in April, I agree 🤨

@Jason-cn5vo

2 ай бұрын

​@@leonnunhofer3453passover usually falls in April too

@leightoncressman6188

2 ай бұрын

Also, April 5 is when zefram cochrane will fly his warp ship, and make contact with the Vulcans. 🤣

@rlawrence9838

2 ай бұрын

I thought you would've included that Hitler died in April.

@Nazizombies97

2 ай бұрын

@@rlawrence9838allegedly

I actually really liked the movie. I liked that there were multiple factions and none were given preferential treatment. Even the cause was not disclosed

I feel like Michael and Andrew are the most normal hosts DW has

That was rude. The guy whose name I forget. Then write it down.

@FelipeMondaini84

2 ай бұрын

Totally...disrespectful.

movie was boring. wasn't about america falling apart. was about journalists looking for a great story.

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

it’s about America having already fallen apart… and looking for a great picture 🤷🏻‍♂️

@johnedward9377

2 ай бұрын

I walked out 45 minutes in. Was kinda scared it would be woke but it wasn't, just boring

@username3835

2 ай бұрын

​@@johnedward9377It sounds pretty bad. I wouldn't pay to see it at all.

@hebrewhammer4086

2 ай бұрын

To each there own. I enjoyed it

@tooslow4065

2 ай бұрын

@@hebrewhammer4086 simple-minded people like simple-minded stories.

I think it says a lot of truth about reporters. They dont care about the people, just their pictures. "Dont let them shoot me!" "Ah ya, thatll make a dope headline." 😂

The filmmakers stated explicitly that they purposefully made it not reflect current politics. They didn’t want to make current left or right the good or bad guys. So your observation that you couldn’t tell which side they were trying to portray as good or bad was intentional. They were trying to show the anxiety we’re feeling without being preachy one way or the other.

@user-tr2mb4xs7i

Ай бұрын

I like how the movie isn't just "Republicans bad" or "Democrats bad." It does a good job showing a neutral perspective of a potential civil war.

Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he Was Buried and that he Rose again the third day praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you All

@louisegoins7630

2 ай бұрын

Amen. God bless you. I pray for America daily and for God to have mercy on all his children in America and in the world daily.

@robovac3557

2 ай бұрын

It's a great tragedy that so much time, effort and money continues to be spent on religion. We know too much now so there's no excuse. None of its real.

@Daily_Bassist

2 ай бұрын

@@robovac3557On the contrary, we know too much to deem it false. Such as that a man named Jesus lived, taught, performed miracles, claimed to be God, and was killed in the 1st Century Roman Empire, then was seen living again after three days by thousands of people.

@robovac3557

2 ай бұрын

@@Daily_Bassist And here we go. All that time and effort.

@concken1

2 ай бұрын

All that time, energy, hate and effort to scream to everyone that you reject God. Huh.

So Nightcrawler (2014) meets Olympus Has Fallen (2013)?

@thomassenbart

2 ай бұрын

Not really

@grezdaed

2 ай бұрын

@@thomassenbart I think he is implying that the journalists are psychopaths or adrenaline junkie like in Nightcrawler and Olympus Has Fallen with the White House getting attacked. The reason the journalists are going to D.C. is because they feel it's the last chance to interview that particular president. I guess they assumed the White House would fall.

@22carmoon

2 ай бұрын

more like Children of Men crossed with The Killing Fields

@orlock20

2 ай бұрын

I'd say the closest movie is Apocalypse Now.

@mastershake4641

2 ай бұрын

More like who knows cause you want to fall asleep its so boring

More movie reviews! I appreciated this.

I just saw it. It’s basically a re-hash of Spielberg’s War of the Worlds but with less of a plot. A group of people on a road trip surrounded by war and death. Not to mention the ending is not much of an ending.

@jimmieleepatterson

2 ай бұрын

You're missing the point of what war photo journalists do. They want the pictures to tell the story, not each sides ideology

9:52 I’d say that is a call-back to the death of Howard Beal in Network - still the greatest movie about the news industry to this day, with rockin’ performances!

Thank you. You saved me $20

@thomassenbart

2 ай бұрын

You should go see it. It is intense.

@TodaysDante

2 ай бұрын

If you took someone and got popcorn, make that about 100 bucks.

@Nightshade1881

2 ай бұрын

🤣very sheepish of you

@andrewbowen4333

2 ай бұрын

Nah save your money see Dune 2

@crisisactor420

2 ай бұрын

Definitely see it. I went in fully expecting to hate it as well and it was pretty damn good. It's been a week and I still can't really shake it. I might have to go see it again

A roadtrip that shows how different people would react if a civil war happened. Some would be 'formal' by wearing uniforms. Some would mind their own business and try to live a normal life.

The problem with making a war movie with multiple factions without including any politics or information to explain backstory and motives is that the film just ends up being a bunch of seemingly pointless violence which makes me think the movie was more of a high minded liberal commentary on war itself which is very gay

@absurdh3ro

2 ай бұрын

It was trying to be middle of road for a liberal.

@joeymedina7115

2 ай бұрын

So very gay.

@donde2k

2 ай бұрын

Gay & ret@rded.

@duanelinstrom4292

2 ай бұрын

What does gay mean in this context?

@aesop1451

2 ай бұрын

Except that happens in real life. People rise up against dictators and then create a new dictatorship. Allende was a communist. But the Pinochet regime tortured and killed about 3,000 people. Some right-wingers will say that this was "necessary" to prevent communism. You're saying that you wished the movie had an unambiguous bad side, but you'd be upset if the bad side was portrayed as MAGA. Liberals (right and left) love WWII because it's supposed to be a black-and-white conflict. At least we're not speaking German, amirite?

Before watching I saw a lot of reviewers accuse it of 'fence-sitting' too hard, as if it was too afraid of being hot or cold on contemporary issues and so it just comes out feeling mild. After watching it I realized how badly those people missed the point. It's just about war, and the brevity of it. The mercurial history of the movie's conflict feeds the questions I believe it wants you to ask. Here's what I took away from it: It doesn't play politics and it doesn't even try to discuss the causative elements or the moral contentions of whatever's going on. You're with a bunch of journos in the thick of the shit while they ride the coat tails of soldiers--soldiers don't play politics either, they just soldier. When you're inside the element, the 'why' doesn't really matter (this is highlighted in a few scenes but particularly the one where they take fire in the car and duck out with the sniper nest.) War is that element, and it's on, so that means the talking failed. It doesn't talk shop about lore because it wants to tease the question, "what could have led to this?" Explaining that would be no less labyrinthine than trying to disseminate our current political world to a fledgling mind, (or its imitative fictional politico which would probably be just as enrapt, but in a different way) so it doesn't even bother. As you're enamored in atrocity, eruptions of graphic violence and reflective stalls of murderous tension, I think it wants you to arrive at the answer that the reasons don't matter because nothing could possibly justify this anyway. Or, that the reasons are so inane and incontrovertible that they're tragic in of themselves, because the realm of dialogue is dead and now this is all you're left with, with any hope of verbal resolution being a forgone antiquity. When bullets start flying all that matters is are you left, right, or in the middle. Nobody can reconcile with the dead. There's probably a world of discussion there related to journalist's partisan role in engineering conflict, or their responsibility in its midst. That'd probably be a lot of talking in of itself. My main take-away from it was 'war is the total breakdown of communication.'

@renotv3860

2 ай бұрын

"war is le bad" Real groundbreaking stuff with this film.

A real Civil War movie about the US would be a Game of Thrones multi season epic. Not only would you need context for how our internal disagreements became a shooting war, but you would also have to show the international implications. For example, what would happen in Ukraine, Isreal and Taiwan if a real US Civil War erupted? A second tier conflict would be how do our military leaders react to this? Do they join sides? Do they stay completely out of it? Do they attempt to manage the international stage while civilians duke it out at home? What do individual members of the military do? Do they desert? Do they plead with their family not to get involved? Then there are the faction leaders in the US; how do they decide to organize? Surely there would be internal fights over who is calling the shots. I just dont see this as a 2hr movie with any depth. And that makes it a comedy.

@AaronCurtright

2 ай бұрын

You have piqued my interest and curiosity. When are you writing the screenplay?

@eddarby469

2 ай бұрын

@@AaronCurtright Maybe in a couple years when I can see where things are going.

@AaronCurtright

2 ай бұрын

@@eddarby469looking forward to it! Let me know if you want help.

@eddarby469

2 ай бұрын

@@AaronCurtright I think I might open it up with a measure passing the Texas state legislature to leave the Union, but the bill has not been signed by the governor yet.

@christianhudspeth3338

2 ай бұрын

@@eddarby469 the movie was pretty inconsistent and too ambiguous to follow for me. There wasn't clear back story for a lot of what happens in the movie. Its just focused on how journalists are either the good guy or the bad guy which even that is left up to you to interpret for yourself.

For me one of the biggest points is: how deep and dark America will become, to get at this point of chaos. And the complete opposite of is how someone decides for don’t care at all . And this is happening now

The big complaint I see from people is that the movie has “no narrative”. The movie kinda spells the narrative out right there, DON’T HAVE A CIVIL WAR!!!

I don’t remember the situation, but a few years ago, a photojournalist was honored for taking a photo of a person dying of either thirst, starvation, or something else. After a few months, he was chastised for not having helped the person. You can get the story and still be a Mensch.

I just hope people watch it and take away the fact that in no shape or form would civil war in America would be good or fun. I was glad they kept it very ambiguous!

Dead eyed Todd or Jesse Plemons as he sometimes goes by has nailed the unpredictable, psycho character he deserves more praise for his talent......

It either should have not been called civil war or should have focused more on the actual civil war thats going on.

@lonniesides9302

2 ай бұрын

You mean the 2020 riots where spoiled upper middle-class and rich kids tore through the country while so-called patriots hid in their basements stroking their shiny new Aye-are-fif-tanes?

So it’s a movie about modern days and desperate need and desire to have a camera lens as a buffer (our technology addiction) between us and the REAL WORLD.

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

cameras have been around for a while.

@charlesbryson7443

2 ай бұрын

@Sam_T2000 They are used all the time everywhere for everything now, though.

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

@@charlesbryson7443 - one of the main character shoots on film, though. I don’t think it’s meant as a commentary on “screen culture” or whatever you’d call it… more like about how the things we see on TV or in the newspaper can seem so far away, but the movie brings all those things to our doorstep, and shows how real they are.

I was kinda hoping it was a Kaiserreich style Civil War between The United States, American Union State, Combined Syndicates of America, and the Pacific States of America

@United-Nations-Space-Command.

2 ай бұрын

Comment Nation would you support

God bless you, Michael!!!!

@rpandaplayz

2 ай бұрын

Matt as in Matt Walsh? this is Michael Knowles

*"Third term and attacking American citizens".* Is this movie about Obama *(a.k.a. Barry) ?* 🤔💡😂🤣

That Homer was onto something with road trip stories. Mark Twain did pretty well by the idea too. My favorite modern Odyssey type movie is "The World's Fastest Indian".

@billyjonesy2972

2 ай бұрын

Mine is "The Warriors".

@Sam_T2000

2 ай бұрын

mmmmm… road trip stories 🤤

All I gotta say: Clearly, the guys who made this movie never heard of the TV series Jericho. Which is a more believable split of the United States. I wonder? In Civil War: The Loyalist States, the Western Forces, the Florida Alliance, and the New People's Army. In Jericho: The United States (also called the Columbus Government), the Allied States (also called the Cheyenne Government), and the Independent Republic of Texas.

Another woke thing is that every body has AR-15s. There are tons of other guns. It’s beyond ridiculous that not one America owns a AK in this movie.

@sirslickrock

2 ай бұрын

There were scenes with sniper rifles and full out crew serve machine guns… stop being obtuse.

Seems it's an OK action movie...that simple..viewers will think what they want...Red Dawn was more my style...about civilian ownership of firearms

@lonniesides9302

2 ай бұрын

The only people who had firearms before the invasion were Jed and the guy the Russian paratrooper pried out of one guy's cold, dead hands. The rest of them either stolen or picked up from dead guys. I did love that movie, though. I heard they made a remake.....😅

@joeymedina7115

2 ай бұрын

It’s not an action movie. There’s too much yappin.

@gorfpatrol2073

2 ай бұрын

@@lonniesides9302 I thought the elderly couple,,(the famous older cowboy actor) gave them a few, also., on their way to the mountains.

@lonniesides9302

2 ай бұрын

@gorfpatrol2073 Ben Johnson. He was in a ton of John Ford movies. Yeah, he had some, gave Jed some ammo for "his grand dad's pistol". I loved that movie. I was stationed in Germany at the time. Fun times.

@dougearnest7590

2 ай бұрын

@@lonniesides9302 A lot of people had firearms - remember the part where the head bad guy sent someone to the sporting goods store for the background check forms so they could round up the guns. I think I watched the remake, but I'm not sure. I might have found a way to block it out of my mind - all I know is China is not a threat.

I do find it very interesting that liberal media would make a movie portraying a civil war against what’s clearly a tyrant. Very pro-gun, very supportive of the 2nd amendment lol

@consco3667

2 ай бұрын

The left pretty obviously hates America

A journalist will be there at the end of the world right before the madman launches the nuclear weapons asking for a photo op.

I was deployed in Bosnia and I ask my interpreter why did neighbors turn against one another and it was all political for the most part people chose a side folks that went to school together and grew up loving each other turn on each other over BS. So I see the same thing happening here slowly but surely. God help us ❤

I just see BDU Jim Gaffigan softly singing, "hawwwt pawwwketz" as he "cleans house"...

The movie sounds as pointless as this review, yet here I am.

Predictive programing movie like Pearl Harbor movie that came out just before 9/11 ?.. timing of this movie is interesting being it a election year

@HunterStiles651

2 ай бұрын

Any idiot who pays even a modicum of attention to the current political climate knows that Civil War is inevitable. We have two people with radically different religions, histories, and languages forced to share the same space. At this point, we're one country in name only, and a Civil War is the only remedy. I think Michael knows it too and is just in denial.

@rogerwhite95

2 ай бұрын

Not just PH's theater release; but am I I the only one that remembers TV networks ran the film ad infinitum in the months before 9/11?

Your future rating scale should use Mayflower cigars. “I give this movie a rating of 7.5 Mayflower cigars out of 10.” Love your work!

" Where Daily wire subscribers " Okay, what kind of daily wire subscriber are you?

@ronblitz

2 ай бұрын

Candance owens type 🫡

Gee none of us saw this movie coming this year did we. 😂🤣😂

I think you missed the point of the movie. The journalists are NOT shown to be objective. The whole movie is about their moral flaws.

@samahnour5423

2 ай бұрын

How?

@jay1jayf

2 ай бұрын

yeah they are, watch the movie again. They're driven by their personal excitement/thrill seeking behavior/ morality of showing the others "what not to do"

I was waiting for someone from the daily wire to talk about this movie before I potentially went & saw it. So, since Knowles gives it a thumbs up, I think I will go & watch it.

I think it is supposed to be so ambiguous to allow the viewer to decide who are the “good guys” and to show an 2nd American civil war won’t be so red and blue more like shades of purple

"The Antefa massacre" Antefa obviously _were_ massacred -- they're nothing but cannon fodder, and their own side recognizes that.

4:45 I think you nailed it. It's an attempt to re-establish an American's trust in the media.

@avalerie4467

2 ай бұрын

Well, that ship has sailed ! I was enrolled in J school ( journalism) back in the early 1980s. One professor came right and said, " it's all yellow journalism now." Too young to ask the question i should have, i wonder how it got started. The real reason.

@hannahfaye3680

2 ай бұрын

Most people are ignorant that our own government send their own agents to be the journalists. Look up the history of the C/I/A working with Hollywood to create propaganda movies. I'm sure this is one of them.

@dbt-dt6zx

2 ай бұрын

exactly. so it's propaganda because we all know the majority of media now is left leaning.

@dark_unit2409

2 ай бұрын

It’s not, the director himself said the media and politicians are both not to be 100% trusted, however the press is still important since they have the power to expose the truth, of war, corruption, etc.. Without press the government could just tell us whatever is happening without proof to go against them

This sort of sounds like Oliver Stone’s film Salvador. One of the journalists gets shot near the end of the film. Loosely based on John Hoagland who was shot and killed in El Salvador back in 1984.

I saw this movie as a message, a warning, to Americans to not view each other as enemies

Snipers in the statue of liberty's torch? I'll pass.

@AaronCurtright

2 ай бұрын

Wasn’t even in the movie. 😂

@cptercio

2 ай бұрын

That was just promo art and meant to be symbolic that's all

@denroy3

2 ай бұрын

Knowles is really the kind of person I'd look to for coherence on good movies.

@denroy3

2 ай бұрын

​@@cpterciosymbolic of a stupid movie? Good catch.

@CaptainRandom69

Ай бұрын

@@denroy3did you watch it?

The great thing about this movie which I think threw everyone off is that the movie isn’t about the actual Civil War. This is Nightcrawler but with war journalists. The sides aren’t important. It doesn’t matter if Texas and California is teamed up. It’s not about that. It’s simply about these journalists going through hell just to get a story and a picture. This “political” movie is very apolitical.

I think the major problem with this type of reviewer and thinking is that they say they aren’t unbiased and therefore honest, but They don’t present the viewpoint they don’t agree with. I think it’s dangerous to have people view their profession like Matthew Knowles.

Thanks Mike! Good Job!

Hollywood did not make this movie. Why do idiots keep repeating this? It's produced by an independent studio in London and distributed by A24, an independent distributor based in Manhattan. Hollywood literally has nothing to do with this.

@anthonymerchant2597

2 ай бұрын

Because It's just easier to say and plenty of people are totally aware that this doesn't mean it was literally filmed in Hollywood. A majority of the biggest films these days are filmed in Georgia. Know when to pick your fights, you're arguing over absolutely nothing. Dubai has also had it share of films that still fall under this same thing. A lot of the distribution and marketing still includes Hollywood.

If just from this review I feel gaslighted, I can't imagine what it would be like if I watched the whole movie.

@smbsport13

2 ай бұрын

You’d probably like it. It’s an extremely intense action movie. Not political or preachy great white knuckle action movie

@mastershake4641

2 ай бұрын

That other guy is lying to you. Its boring. Theres hardly any action. They never explain anything. Its not about a civil war. Its about journalists capturing war crimes and stuff. The only real message you can get out of it is war is bad.

I was wondering the entire time why didnt the president threaten to use nukes to negotiate with Western forces to let him go. Wouldn't both the western forces and the president's forces have nukes? I'd imagine that would be the way for the president to negotiate his exile. I understand its a movie but I would've liked to see an explanation for this.

I felt the movie was very powerful. It showed that a 'Civil War' should not be taken lightly--that real people are hurt and die, and some may be your friends. The scene with Jesse Plemons with live with me forever. It was seriously one of the most chilling things I have ever seen in a movie. And, about your 'woke' statements. I was about 18 when I 'woke' up and discovered that the world was ruled by mostly white men who didn't care much about other people, especially women, and those of color. I'm glad I 'woke' up and can see things so clearly now. I hope you wake up someday too, Michael.

Michael, I think you missed the message about journalism: they are lecturing journalists that it is wrong to try to be objective. The message is: they need to instead take sides and be activists and allies.

Movie is highly overrated, I found it very mediocre, I feel I was watching Meet the Spartans version of Independence Day. Even my friend Robert just saw it with his wife few days ago, said it was one of the worst movies he ever saw in theaters!

@everythingisawesome76

2 ай бұрын

Even my friend Robert. Lol.

@Markimark151

2 ай бұрын

@@everythingisawesome76 he was big KZreadr, he used do those rants on movies and gaming companies!

Of all the critiques and reviews of " Civil War" ( Kirsten Dunst, Jesse Plemmons, Nick Offerman) , Michael Knowles, in My Humble Opinion, is the most sober and sane, straight forward , After Action Review ( AAR) , on " Civil War", an A24 Productions Movie 🎥🇺🇲🇺🇸🦅🗽📜🛡️⚔️🪖💣💥🔥💔🇺🇲🇺🇸‼️

I just saw the movie. Your take on it is accurate IMO. I also agree that while the journalist in the movie brags that they are there to record and report, we all know that the real goal for them is to get the award-winning best pic!

The beauty of Legacy Media propaganda, ladies and gentlemen. That's what this film represents.

@Slick-vo9hp

2 ай бұрын

This guy is the definition of propaganda

@josueveguilla9069

2 ай бұрын

​@@Slick-vo9hpWho?

Reminds me of The China Syndrome(1979) where the news reporters are the supposit true heroes and nuclear power station problem is secondary.

My family and I were taken on a West Wing tour of the White House. The press briefing room is there and it is so much smaller than what you think it is. On live TV, the scale of it seems bigger. It's not much larger than our family room. We went after 8pm and only a few people were around, pretty cool to actually see the Oval office, Situation room, Navy Mess, Rose Garden etc. The VP's office is across a small street in the Eisenhower bldg. By the way, references to God and our Creator are all throughout the Jefferson and Lincoln memorial.

in times of peace, sons bury fathers. in times of war, fathers bury sons.

So happy to see that Michael Knowles could be objective enough to give this movie a good review. So tired of the critics on the Right missing the boat and distracted with surface politics or, trapped in the implausible details to notice: it's actually a "don't do this" movie. Regardless of what side you're on the moral of the story is don't do this.

@mili3212

2 ай бұрын

That’s why I love Michael. He’s thoughtful and makes genuinely insightful commentary

@JoMiMo555

2 ай бұрын

Except it was executed very poorly. There was no plot, hollow characters and the constant sacrificing of realism for symbolism.

@EagleLeader1

2 ай бұрын

@@JoMiMo555 and you might be absolutely right on all those counts. I just wish more people realized that realism was being sacrificed for both the moral of the story and to reach the widest audience possible.

@JoMiMo555

2 ай бұрын

@@EagleLeader1 It may be reaching more people, but I'd be shocked if it convinced anyone of anything.

@EagleLeader1

2 ай бұрын

@@JoMiMo555 lol you're probably right I will have to concede that point to you. But I'd probably chalk up some of that to closed mindedness or just not artsy enough to get it.