Miami Heat Couldn't Get Anyone To Take Duncan Robinson In DeMar DeRozan Trade, According To ESPN
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Tobin reacts to NBA Today's Bobby Marks saying the Heat tried like heck to get DeMar DeRozan and no one wanting to take Duncan Robinson from them
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Duncan has improved his driving ability drastically and I love it. Hes just a liability on D but with our new 7'0 hopefully it will help sure up rim protection.
I knew this would happen. The new CBA is awful for these players. Now there are guys that make 50-60 million a year, guys that make 2-10 million, and everything in the middle is considered too expensive/bad contract.
@SantiniAir78
23 күн бұрын
💯 accurate. Basically moving forward most teams will 9nky be able to carry at most 2 max type contracts in that 50mil plus. Celtics were the last to luck into the pre-new CBA restrictions before the barn door slammed shut. Teams are super wary this summer, no one is taking on Duncan at that age with that injury and still mostly a specialist type player. People should remember that before they scream for blood l. Teams will adjust eventually but for now, this is where we all are
@marcussampson3265
23 күн бұрын
its not its bad for teams. Players are getting paid mad money now. their teams just suck due to them getting all that money
@SantiniAir78
18 күн бұрын
@@marcussampson3265 Why would you suggest players are making too much money? Do you think NFL, NBA, Professional Soccer/Tennis/Rugby players are making too much money? Do you think music stars make too much money? Why, because you don't make what they make? What do you do for a living? What if I told you that you make too much money? Would that make sense to you? For the record, NBA owners make a ton much more money that the players who are actually the people putting their bodies out every day blood, sweat and tears so it baffles me why would suggest what you said.
@marcussampson3265
17 күн бұрын
@@SantiniAir78 My comment was he makes too much money not to perform to the level at which hes getting paid. Hes under performing his contract. He should be getting like 16-18 because he can't dominate a game hes a specialist. Hes a really good specialist but hes not ready for max money based off performance.
That back injury may be making teams think twice
@robinshaul4069
23 күн бұрын
True
@diegocastillo3631
23 күн бұрын
Fr that injury made Duncan Robinson look 35 yo out there
@greenlion6544
23 күн бұрын
You should probably watch the video before commenting lol
@greenlion6544
23 күн бұрын
@@solracblonde9480 Tobin never said that…
@solracblonde9480
23 күн бұрын
@@greenlion6544 great
Herro is also not enticing to other teams.
@KevondrickBailey
24 күн бұрын
Miami would have to give up Jimmy, Bam, and picks Kawhi. 😂😂
@poppahoggg2587
23 күн бұрын
FACTS 💯
@tylerriley2587
23 күн бұрын
he's inconsistent
No one has EVER valued Herro and Duncan as much as The Heat do....and that's the problem.
@seanquinn4787
23 күн бұрын
Correct
@jumpstreet2425
23 күн бұрын
False. Duncan got the deal cuz somebody wanted to pay and then heat being dumb payed more...
@mintruth
23 күн бұрын
NONSENSE!!!
@thehandsomenerd6719
23 күн бұрын
@@jumpstreet2425no tf he didn’t! Pat didn’t wanna pay him and Spo pushed him to! It’s been reported for years. How are you a fan without knowing this. The Heat overpaid for him
@jumpstreet2425
23 күн бұрын
@@thehandsomenerd6719 Brooklyn was the team who offered alot...
I feel like half of us have better credibility for Heat news than the national media
front office messed up by giving out horrid contracts
@Bennyblancofromthebronx
23 күн бұрын
And draft picks
@greenlion6544
23 күн бұрын
@@Bennyblancofromthebronx giving up a first round pick for Rozier at 30 years old was a huge mistake, so was offering that stupid money to Caleb Martin and giving Love 2 years 8 million. Also, they need to trade Butler ASAP.
@tylerriley2587
23 күн бұрын
took the words right out of my mouth
@tylerriley2587
23 күн бұрын
@@greenlion6544 Butler's age is showing
@greenlion6544
23 күн бұрын
@@tylerriley2587 should have traded him last year and given Jimmy a chance to win a chip somewhere else, and the Heat get a shit ton of picks and cap space to bring in a YOUNG superstar in the future while they draft in the top 10 for a year. Try to flip Rozier and Duncan for some picks too. Drafting is the only way to build a dynasty in this NBA with the stupid CBA rules.
if teams don't want Heat players. don't want to trade with the Heat. then the Heat should focus on drafting, signing, and developing toolsy players. contracts would be cheap, players would be young, and they'll grow up playing your complicated system. F the rest of the league.
@robb5289
23 күн бұрын
The league does not want to trade with the Heat because they give out contracts that exceed the players talent.
@Miles_305
23 күн бұрын
Former Heat players tend to do worse once they leave. The narrative is out there. BUT, it is often forgotten who actually was coaching them. Like of course Spo is gonna get more from a guy than say the Lakers would😅
@indade
23 күн бұрын
@@robb5289 you just described every NBA contract.
@robb5289
23 күн бұрын
@indade Not really. The Heat take it to another level with overpaying players.
@indade
23 күн бұрын
@@robb5289 it may feel that way but across the board, that's not anymore true than it is across the league.
Duncan is because of his back issue, but looks like teams don't think Tyler is worth his contract
Duncan Robinson will be in the final year of his contract after next season so that will be when teams will want him.
Tyler doesn’t pay 70 games a year either
Tobin. Next time you’re interviewing the rookies ask Ware what inspired his parents to give him that name. The nerd in me thinks of Superman cuz that’s his kryptonian name. 😅
All that Glazing is why nobody wants to trade for our players. Just be honest and stop lying to the people!
Now we know nobody wants Duncan and Herro.😂 We are done ☠️
@PoppaTheeGoat2
24 күн бұрын
Jazz and nets want herro Duncan have a huge contract and he have back injury so with him improving this year his injury still is concern for team .
@Thereaper5
24 күн бұрын
No the heat just overvalue Tyler so much they think he’s better than d book at this point
@robinshaul4069
23 күн бұрын
Spurs wanted hero
@knowledgeseeker1528
23 күн бұрын
That's not true, the heat just can't get what they want for them.
@ChinaVaginaOneDollah
23 күн бұрын
you believe these klutch sports come guzzlers?
No one wants Miami’s assets but Utah wants a 1st rd pick for everyone and usually gets that and more lol
Nobody I rather hear heat news from other than you been with you since the first 10k followers keep it up!
Shits tuff, but let's see what this Heat's "Last Chance" team does next season. Can they actually make it out the play-in?
Tobin make your vids longer u the 🐐
@jckdnls9292
24 күн бұрын
whats that a camel
for everyone saying dear isn't a good fit obviously didn't watch the heat play last year. He can get to his spots better than jimmy can. Part got to be held accountable because if this story is panically true they trying to save face for hero. hero is the bad fit and we saw he can't handle the load for what hes getting paid. Gotta let that man go and take the L keeping him Is wasting a year knowing he can't get open
What's the over/under on how many games Jimmy sits out this season?
I agree, I don't believe all the DeRozan talk. He was not going to be a great fit other than the fact that he actually plays in most games vs what we currently have on our team.
Chicago just didn’t want to do business wit heat period miss me wit dat shit
I really need Bam 25pts and 12 rebounds,2blks a game also bam work on a go to move make him unstoppable
@Mac2Mon
23 күн бұрын
If Bam could actually become this player you describe, the Heat would never be in the play-in again. Problem is… he won’t ever become that player. The fans will tell you that’s asking too much from poor baby Bam
@knowledgeseeker1528
23 күн бұрын
@@Mac2MonTook the words from me. This exactly.
@AlexG-tp2ik
23 күн бұрын
Or a reliable mid range jump shot.
This Heat team, without injuries, would have won with Boston... The last year'Robinson was special... Stop with old players without future. Noone remember Lowry? Players over 35 are good for role playing, except some real phenomenon..
@7.62squalay3
23 күн бұрын
stop it
Crazy but I mean as a heat fan he is a 3 point sniper but that back is no joke look at t Mac career afterwards 😮
They signed Lowry, PJ Tucker. Paid Duncan and Herro. The Heat are use to bad contracts.
@James-ws9ze
23 күн бұрын
They almost gave Caleb Martin a bad contract this offseason.
The Miami Heat really saving so many undrafted players and making people believe they all stars fr. Heat culture turns limited into unlimited
Rather have Dunc anyway.
@robinshaul4069
23 күн бұрын
Yeah me too,he is a great three pointer
@gerardotorres1483
23 күн бұрын
The league doesn't understand the value of a healthy Duncan Robinson, his play last season when healthy was Top tier for his role. Our offense is definitely elevated with a Swaggy Duncan, especially when his confidence is up.
@kevinmarrero5013
23 күн бұрын
Bro he single handedly shoot us past the Celtics last time
@dlp8690
23 күн бұрын
exactly
@tylerriley2587
23 күн бұрын
He’s Inconsistent and a defensive liability
There is league concern about the Heat players being system players instead of talented individuals. He has back injuries and he is 30. Heat fans love bringing up ages. Well that’s an age for you. He is not an asset. No doubt no one wanted him.
@garnetgordon398
24 күн бұрын
Stop the cap no sports analysis said nothing of the sort stop making up shit
@Tobe-rt5ru
23 күн бұрын
Its the injury, his final year is only guaranteed for 9 mill thats valuable to a team that needs shooting
Why is guy shocked no one wants Duncan Robinson?? He is an ok player.
Let's go boi
Heat fans and their announcers were saying Herro was better than Maxey last season….lol
Wow
And DeRozan always melted down when he played against LeBron big time FACTS 💯
Good i like Robinson and his playoff expierence.DeMarr I'm not sold on as a big ticket free agent and giving up to much value.Had Rozen won anything?How long have I've heard about the 76ers and Knicks as Heat are in Eastern Confrence finals.
I think also our undrafted players brings fear to the national media darlings. The Knicks. 76ers etc moves
We only have 2 years left on his deal. Hopefully the second half of the five year deal is better than the first 😅
You know for a fact it’s time for a change Pat Riley time is over
They probably would have taken caleb martin or Kevin love or haywood Highsmith
😂😂
Keeping DUNCAN will benefit the HEAT 🔥... people have to realize that PAT RILEY tries to make moves, just as long as it won't compromise the team's current cap situation.....
Demar scores more than everyone on our team
Who runs the heat better? Front office of a consistent playoff team, or it’s room temp iq fan base?
Contrary to what most heat followers believe, players are NOT tripping over to come to this rudderless ship. Shocking, isn't it. ?
The Heat have been to 3 conference finals and 2 NBA finals in 5 years health and small changes can make difference and the Heat finally got a 7 footer and addressed the 3 point shooting problems plus the Heat beat the Celtics twice in the playoffs they're not this unbeatable team people are making them out to be.
Cooper Flagg!!!
Its his contract i think?
Because is not a good player.
Only offering him $5 doesn’t help either… we have a cheap jew for an owner.
You mean no one wanted his contract
Some Heat fans are thirsty, Derozan doesn't move the needle or most of these guys rumored to the Heat the Kings will lose in the first round and talk to me when the Sixers don't choke or can make past the 2nd round and same with Knicks neither team worries me.
I would rather trade hero instead of duncan
For just one year, let the fans control the front office and watch how all their “big brain moves” kills the team lol
They shouldn't trade for Ingram. He has an injury history.
The Bucks had the same team forever (Giannis, Khris, Lopez, Portis, Pat) … they added Jrue Holiday = win a championship. Celtics had the same core for at least 3 years (Tatum, Brown, Horford, White, Prichard); add Jrue Holiday = win a championship It’s not about a group being “bored” it’s about adding the right piece… and apparently that “right piece” is named Jrue Holiday. You can’t win a championship from the East without him 😂
Is not that they didn’t want Duncan they didn’t want the heat to get better
I really wanted Spida, Derozan would’ve been a weird fit and bad spacing
Duncan been holding down the heat
@miamimajestics6764
23 күн бұрын
One of the toughest dudes on the squad
This is what a fan with access sounds like. This guy is bios it’s laughable!
Duncan is inconsistent, and a defensive liabilty.
To be honest Miami have been better off letting Tyler and Duncan walk. If other teams could pay them more than The Heat should have let them. You can find another Tyler and Duncan. The league is full players like that bug other teams know they're not star players
Why won’t they trade herro dawg he’s the problem they keep trying to avoid it. Does nobody realize how bad Tyler herro really is he shoots 43% from the field on 23 shots any upgrade over him puts the team in a better place.
Yeah its bs tobin❤❤❤❤❤
I am a little bit surprised at that. Is his contract still really that bad these days? He can definitely be a valuable piece to a team with his offensive skillset
They never stood a real chance though...5 mil for DeRozen is just plain disrespectful. And those Duncan claims are crazy unless he isn't passing physicals due to his back. Eitehr way, part of the problem is the Heat need to be clearer with injuries. This ancient way of thinking that Pat has like players will be targeted if they are known to be hurt is old hat. It's 2024, lots of this can be avoided by the Heat just telling people what is going on and therefore controlling the narrative about their own franchise. The alternative is this chaos and rumour mill stuff...rant over😅
To say Duncan fit better with the team is one thing but to say he’s better than Tyler is some kind of mental illness
He can be the 12 man in Boston lol
@robinshaul4069
23 күн бұрын
Boston summer league STINKS and heat is advancing every day!!
@robinshaul4069
23 күн бұрын
Boston stinks and have no summer league for they future team
I agree 100%
I never wanted demar derozan, Ira said the heat was never interested in demar
I'm going to keep saying this over and over. Miami heat will just use every young talent and first round picks as trade pieces for another useless 10 year veteran. It's always like that lol. they said they're great at developing players. but they can only develop undrafted players into average players lol. meanwhile whenever they have a young talent they don't play him to get experience and sht. I mean just look at jovic. It took a while for him to get minutes and it also took an injury from teammate lol. Miami I feel like they really don't want to do everything to win. They'll keep on opting for the cheapest options to save money.
the young core(herro,jjj,jovic,ware,pelle,kj)>markenen,b.ingram or any player we missed out on,they were available for a reason,& I trust pat
I’m sorry I love the Heat but yall better thank god this team acquire Jimmy four years ago because the rosters have been trash this team overachieved! Duncan and Hero main weakness is defense and shooting ability comes and go ! Overpaid players who you have hide and scheme don’t guard play is easily weak !!!
Not believing "nobody wanted Duncan", last 3 years he's made great progress in his all-around game. I'm glad he's a Heater!
Over paid Herro, Duncan. They are holding the team back. Time for Heat to get new people in the front office
I dont want him either, one the worst contracts in heat history next to philly cheese
I think Duncan should become less of a thought in the Heats rotation, enough watching him sprint around to get open just to brick the shot, enough of the dribble hand offs to him.. just make him stand in the corner and space the floor, like Steve Novak, let somebody else go to work.
@garnetgordon398
24 күн бұрын
Man shut up
People got to realize the Jimmy window is closed. Every teams best player is under 27 years old. Trade jimmy for picks before we lose him for nothing
@m4ng_sin4ls4l
24 күн бұрын
💯
@Dc5k5808
24 күн бұрын
Or make him play one last season on a max deal, regardless of the seasons outcome, let him walk and use the cap space on a new max player... 🤷♂️ WE DONT TANK
I think we're good and once the season starts heat fans are gonna do what we always do say "i cant believe i thought we were gonna be bad".....we have terry rozier who has now had an opportunity to get adjusted to the team and being in a winning situation,our excellent draft class and the growth of a number of our young talent im confident last years turmoil wont be repeated........sadly the only thing im really unaure of is if jimmy still has gas left or if that cliff has arrived
They overpaid him. Just like they overpaid Herro. Highs mith and if Caleb Martin's agent did not reject their offer, he would have been overpaid too.
Duncan Robinson is our best player! We need to build around him ❤❤
Well yeah, when you have idiots at the top paying Duncan 20 million per year, it hampers what you can do
I hope Duncan stays with us for his career
Miami would have been stupid to try and trade our only 3 point shooter, Dunc is probably our most modern and dangerous offensive weapon . I don't buy that we tried to trade him and keep Tyler the guy plays less games then Jimmy. I don't think this is real but if it is, Duncan should be a little pissed.
We had to hear this report to know this? Of course no one wants Duncan or Herro because both suck. Why would anyone want either of those two guys. And Lowe is right on the money because this roster SUCKS.
Listen we can be a bubble team it still gets in playoffs I am alright with that good enough
Trade Jimmy and Tyler and Duncan pick up a couple first round picks I love the way the heat draft
1. Terrible fit 2. Thank heavens he didn't come 3. Thank heavens he didn't come.....
@robinshaul4069
23 күн бұрын
Bulls needed a star like Dunkin, because the bulls stink
Good, they shouldn't have been going after Derozan anyway.
I always said Duncan is not worth nore than $4M / year
Never understood the DeRozan trade. I don't see how he would make Miami that much better. He plays similar to Jimmy Bulter but he's more of a scorer than anything else.
Hows about I call cap.... I bet they were never actually moving Duncan, because no way was Derozan coming here to begin with. He was always going back to Cali the man is in the THEY NOT LIKE US video from K Dot... like what?? Anywhoo. I dont buy it.. There are people signing Tobias Harris for some reason, but people don't want a guy who can shoot 40% from three and now has an inside game?? Really?? SUPER CAP on this one
Last hope John wall victor oladipo for cheap 2 undercover superstars make them get them
Duncan terrible come on bad bad contract he got overpaid and needs to step up prove me and other wrong I really need to see him put in everything he got to improve his defense and gain a little weight and develop a very good mid range game and average 24points a game instead of 12.9 that’s not cutting it
I don’t believe this report. Bronny gets put in the blender now no one wanted Duncan. A shooter in a small ball league..
Everyone just bored and think this is 2k always want to see trades for better ratings. Bro f all these so called Heat fans. Real ones know it all came down on staying healthy. Bottom line. Cant wait for this next season🎰✊🏼
No way Nobody wanted Duncan,his contract decent
Demar derozan would have been terrible for the heat
Nobody wanted Duncan is hogwash, Seriously Harrison Barnes was the one involved in the Derozan trade. Nuff said.
@naynayMia305
23 күн бұрын
Exactly
Tired of all these rumors and let down from the miami heat ! Every year is the same crap with signing our own scrubs and missing out on whales and missing out on free agency. Pat Riley is washed ever since giving Whiteside that 100 million extension. ( Whiteside, Johnson, herro , Duncan , Lowry ). Pat Riley doesn't know how to negotiate anymore. Pls retire and let Mourning and Andy to take Over.
Rozier is right. And our fans are always disgruntled and ungracious. We are still a contender and it’s a lot that goes into winning a chip that don’t strictly include dismantling your team. Look how many years it took MJ and Chicago to cook up 6 rings. Look how long it’s been since they cooked up those 6 rings. Instead of a season to season view of where we’re trending we have to see the larger picture. The celts had Tatum and Brown in place and made some lucky moves to get the others. Then faced injured teams. So all that needs to be looked at before you cry about where we are at. Right now THIS team is worth a run back and we got young pieces in development that look promising…… Stay the course and be patient! Health is an element that robs us all of getting what we want at times. Let’s see how healthy we are this season. But I like what we have and we are contenders