MI: 5 of 5 | 5 Gotchas with SharePoint HUB Sites - Modern Intranet
Here are the 5 gotchas that caught me by surprise when working with the SharePoint Hub sites in Office 365.
I am sharing these gotchas in hope they save you headache and issues post-go live.
Most of these are easy fixes, but some are critical and can compromise your governance and create a big mess in the long run.
Check out this video.
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Great video. Just a tip, when creating a sample word document type =rand() and press the enter key...this will generate random text instead of having to spam the keyboard with asdfs.... :)
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I appreciate the tip. I'll use it in upcoming vids! Thanks man.
Thank you so much for finally explaining hub sites in a way for me to decide for or against this
@DeShonClark
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching...there are some new enhancements to HUBs since this video, need to shoot the 2.0 version soon
I've watched this entire series over the past day and man, this helped me a LOT in understanding how to build an intranet for our company. Thank you so much for creating it, you rock!
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
awesome! thanks for watching
I agree DeShon... that footer thing is strange. If we’re to understand the benefits of the HUB then the footer has to trickle down. Keep the good content coming man!
@DeShonClark
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thanks for watching I really appreciate the feedback
i watched the sequence about Ashley 10 times. DeShon set the Document Filter to "edited by current user" so Ahley cant see nothing because she never edited a document. The selected Filter did the job :))
@DeShonClark
2 жыл бұрын
awesome. thanks for watching
Hi DeShon, you make great videos. Really love them. You probably already know it, but at 1:15 you point out that we need to uncheck "Send email". We don't need to worry about it because SPO will never send emails to two groups: 1) "Everyone" and 2) "Everyone Except external users" no matter whether "send email" checked or not.
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great hearing from you again!!! Great point...this scenario scares the crap out of me. The last thing anyone wants is to send an email to EVERYONE in the organization. Especially since theses emails have your name as the sender. It's best practice and habit none the less...thanks for clarifying. Hope all is well
Awesome video, as usual. I always learn so much from your teachings. The footer navigation, in my experience, has always been for current site (i.e., current site contact, etc.). So every page within a site should be the same, but once you navigate to another site, it could be different. Just my 2 cents.
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
seems like they are not changing this :-(. To me the footer should be HUB wide .vs site collection wide
Super helpful! I've been waiting for someone to put this in English. I feel like if you kept talking for another 15 minutes you would have answered all the questions I have about Teams! 🤪
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
Lol! Thank you for watching. O really do appreciate your feedback! Any thing I can help with the teams piece? I'm still learning new tips and tricks... especially working around "the access to all channels" gap
@Jennifer-qx8nw
4 жыл бұрын
@@DeShonClark Anytime! Yeah, I've got a few for you. I'll have to jot them down send send them over. Our office needs SharePoint for the infrastructure but everyone wants to fully operate through the Teams interface. Right now we're kind of doing "whack a mole" to keep people from making new groups and duplicating shared files. - It's not completely out of hand but it's still a structural issue. Good news if you haven't heard, 365 is rolling out access control on Team Channels. They said it'll be live in November. 🥳
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Access control at the channel level is much needed. Seems like MS would have copied this feature as well from slack. It will be very interesting to see how they pull this off. Thanks for the heads up
Enjoyed that - good info to keep in mind. Thank you.
@DeShonClark
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching
Deshon, Nice video series. I'm in the process of building hubs for my company. You provided some great design and gotchas. Looking forward to more vids.
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
thanks Jeff for taking a look
Great videos. There’s a lack of How Tos and best practices when it comes to the modern experience, please keep them coming. I have 1 question though. Why is it that when you search for an image from a home page and not the library directly, the image result takes you to the form of the image to fill out metadata instead of the image preview?
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
First thank for watching, the search issue you're highlighting is a gap...I agree with you both searches should yield the same results/ experience. Hopefully MS resolves this soon. Thanks again for the feedback and checking out the vids!
Comms sites has this option to support companies with multiple sites worldwide (or just different locations in general) so they released this footer custom for site details, like address, phone, etc.
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
This sorta kinda a little bit make sense...but everything around branding and nav with this hub feature propagates down to the other site collections in the hub...I think this was a miss and would be fixed soon. In the scenario you described I would create a hub for each of these languages/locations, especially if the common info is that distinct.
Hi DeShon. Nice video! Very helpful. Quick question. I followed the steps in adding a myself under "People who can associate sites with this hub site" I have a test account and as soon as login to the test accounts sharepoint, she still has the create site button available. Any advise?
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
the create site link on the main site collection in the HUB , I think, is tied to the owner permissions on that main site collection. If you drop the access down to "Edit" then the link should go away...I need to verify this one
Do you have a video that shows how to setup the horizontal navigation?
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
hey, first thank you so much for watching. Yes I show how to build the top nav here...check out this section of the 4 of 5 episode of this series : kzread.info/dash/bejne/iHyImKptY9rfips.html
Fantastic video DeShon! This series has been invaluable (as everyone else has already said) as I, like many others have been tasked with developing my Team's Team Site. Do you have any thoughts on Flat filing vs File Explorer Folder Hierarchy within Document Libraries and any tips for those people who may "have" to keep the old way of file explorer hierarchy? And a bonus question of creating, default views for specific sub-folders (my google searching ends with most users suggesting there is a bug which prevents this - e.g. Finance Folder has finance view and HR folder has HR View but it cannot be done but could with classic SharePoint) All good if not - this free 5 part series has been far more beneficial than most paid for courses!
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback, I really do appreciate it!! Okay, let's see... 1) go with folders or whatever's comfortable for the end user. The last thing you want is to create friction to force them flat when they think in folders. There's nothing wrong with the folder structure and you can still create a view to go flat. Folder structures are also needed to lock things down, in the event a secure folder or set of files comes into the equation... you're set. 2) I've actually never used the distinct view per folder feature in older versions of SP...sounds cool. I've not seen this, so can't relate to the pain of not having it in modern. But if there is a large enough need ,and large enough file set to justify it...just put these sets of files in a separate library within the same site...you could then alter the view as needed per lib. Just surface the library on the left nav to make it easier for users to bounce between the other libraries....this should work out fine
@aidanblair9461
4 жыл бұрын
@@DeShonClark Thanks heaps for the comprehensive reply, and agree completely re: point 2. I'll run with that and in the meantime keep pestering Microsoft to see if they fancy making the per location view feature a bit more user friendly!
So what's cool about SharePoint? DeShon Clark that's what!!!
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
LOL! Thanks Dallas, I appreciate this
These five videos really helped me to get my head around setting up Modern SharePoint for an Intranet. I recall seeing something earlier this week that suggested creating an org-wide Team and then adding your intranet link to that team page is a good way to set it up. Does that make sense to you?
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom! Thanks for watching. This actually sounds like a cool approach, though I have not used this strategy in the pass. Are you looking for a way to promote the new Intranet...I am trying to understand the linking piece with an org-wide MS Team team.
How about Hub to Hub navigation? I know you can get access to everything from the SharePoint home but how would you go about having a one stop shop for your hubs (like on your intranet) and users being able to easily navigate back and forth since the global nav is hub specific...
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
Very good question...I'll add this to the series...HUB strategy is key, and there are many options.
@sureshmemmi4906
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, look forward to hearing your thoughts
Great video
@DeShonClark
Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@CashCowz962
Жыл бұрын
@@DeShonClark Been watching your tutorials for years bro. Great job and keep going at it....
Hi how to exclude Te ams document from out of the box Search from HUB site search. Consider HUb as an intranet?
@DeShonClark
3 жыл бұрын
If you don't want the document in the search, you can set the option in the advance properties of the document library
If you create a large hub site (for a school) based on team sites will someone not in that team be able to see that particular page?
@DeShonClark
3 жыл бұрын
I think you're onto something, there is a new permissioning feature for modern team sites that grant access to the site outside of the team membership. go to the gear icon and click on site permissions you will see this option. Another trick I use is to make the team site public but remove everyone access and then specify name users as visitors.
Modern Team site doesn't have header/footer/Mega menu settings under Change the Look option while comm site have these options . Also , there is no option to create a communication subsite under a root comm site ,only team site subsite (Modern/Classic)can be created. Please let me know your thoughts.
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
First, thank you for watching. I think this is by design, as the communication site is the best for the entry HUB site. Once the HUB is established, other sites joined to the HUB will just take on the mega menu, header , and footer as the entry site for the HUB.
Great video DSC. How did you get the link in the Teams library to the Public Library to look like that and be part of the move/copy dialog?
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
When you're on the files tab in Teams, select the External Storage option to "bring in" the other document library...this can be any library in any SP site....pretty neat feature.
@pmd7530
3 жыл бұрын
@@DeShonClark does this work for subsides too?... (sorry, I’m being lazy but will check this myself soon!)
How can you tell if site is created by Team vs SharePoint?
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
Very good question. I am not sure on the answer to this one. But, this is what I know, Communication sites are not created with Office365 Groups. MS Team Sites are ALWAYS created with O365 Groups. Microsoft is just now adding the capability to add Office365 groups (via the UI ) to both classic Team sites and earlier Modern Team Sites. Finally, you can have a Modern Team site with an Office 365 group and NOT have a MS Team site connected to it...but this is now available in the UI...on the left below the navigation links on the site. I am just not sure how to determine which sites Team Sites, that do not have a MS team associated,
Any thoughts on how to show birthdays of employee on the site based on data in Azure AD? Much requested functionality and not found a good solution yet.
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
This is interesting, and a common ask. Ask you can imagine, there are may ways to got about this. 1) take a look at PowerApps and the Office 365 Users that will get you access to users in office 365 and some of their profile data. 2) Look into SPFx and grabbing this data using the Microsoft Graph API... here are some hints to ideas, you will have to research to get more details...but hope this helps with which directions to look
That's a great video!!
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
Hi, thanks for a great video! Would you say that it´s possible to build a knowledge base from this new Sharepoint 2019 features? And that the new hybrid search function would be good enought for that?
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
Very good question! I think you will be able to build a knowledge base on its abstract form...not one to one with what you get I'm classic SharePoint. But with pages and pages properties (metadata) should should be able to stitch something compelling together...at a minimum something that is 1000% to manage from a contribution standpoint. As far as hybrid search, I would recommend digging deeper in Modern SharePoint search on o365. You would want to take advantage of the latest algorithms built-in Microsoft Search....the crawl and indexing process is the same, but the query/search piece is where all of the magic is happening. You will have to dig into Microsoft Search onprem indexing capabilities and go from there.
One of the options could be to restrict who can create Groups, as it will also block Teams and modern Team Sites
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
Good point...but what about Comm sites?
@KasperBoLarsen
5 жыл бұрын
@@DeShonClark Since both Comm sites and the STS#3 template can be created without a Group so both Groups and SharePoint settings needs trimming. We usually manage this through scripting/ provisioning tool
@DeShonClark
5 жыл бұрын
@@KasperBoLarsen got-it
Merci
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Great videos :)
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching I really do appreciate it
how do you get the top drop down menus?
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
This comes with the hub site, once created
@JohnQ85
4 жыл бұрын
@@DeShonClark Ah -- cool deal. Thanks for fast reply. So can the hub site be a main site that a secretary or someone can post news to? or does it have to be just an aggregation of spoke (?) sites?
@DeShonClark
4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnQ85 either approach would work, since the news can flow top down, bottom up, or even peer to peer..very flexible
@JohnQ85
4 жыл бұрын
@@DeShonClark prob a newb question but I added a site to a Hub site and no idea where it's spuposed to show lol. there a link supposed to auto add or something?