MH Speedrunning Isn't As Simple As You Think..

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Speedruns aren't as braindead as you think! Here's every single morsel that goes into a CB run, with every position broken down for your information! Let me know the steak you like, or if you learned something today, thank you for watching! x
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - Run Explanation & Armour Set
7:32 - My Stance On Speedrun Mods
12:16 - The Run, Explained
23:14 - Other Tricks & Thoughts
24:30 - Outro

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  • @MomongaMH
    @MomongaMH Жыл бұрын

    Here's to hoping we have another big MH youtuber that actually knows his stuff soon ;) Congrats on the 11k my man, keep up the good stuff!

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Really thought you were dunking on me lmao, I'll try to grow the channel as best I can!

  • @CeraCymmetry
    @CeraCymmetry Жыл бұрын

    Speedruns aren't as braindead as you think! Here's every single morsel that goes into a CB run, with every position broken down for your information! Let me know the steak you like, or if you learned something today, thank you for watching! x 0:00 - Intro 1:10 - Run Explanation & Armour Set 7:32 - My Stance On Speedrun Mods 12:16 - The Run, Explained 23:14 - Other Tricks & Thoughts 24:30 - Outro

  • @Amoeba_Podre

    @Amoeba_Podre

    Жыл бұрын

    People who think speedruns are braindead have never tried to replicate them

  • @athos9293

    @athos9293

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Amoeba_Podre yup

  • @astralluv2051
    @astralluv2051 Жыл бұрын

    This is a really good video, enjoyed the breakdown of the set, monster behavior, counterplay, and especially like that you're upfront with all the extra thing you're using. I think it's cool to see something like this because it's a breakdown of a long and inconsistent puzzle that you've solved over time

  • @chibbychaps6445
    @chibbychaps6445 Жыл бұрын

    Such a cool video! If anything, I appreciate speed running MH even more now!

  • @Syph_Silver
    @Syph_Silver Жыл бұрын

    really enjoyed the explanation :) nice video and gj on hunt

  • @AescioTheArcher
    @AescioTheArcher Жыл бұрын

    Loved the video man !! Really enjoying youre stuff ^_^

  • @fabianschultz
    @fabianschultz Жыл бұрын

    The super recovery dango only works on lvl4 if the monster has seen you. On lower lvls it’s only active if you are hidden. It’s apparently a misstranslation

  • @WhiteWlf-dy8fb
    @WhiteWlf-dy8fb Жыл бұрын

    You should honestly keep doing this. It's one thing to understand how your weapon works, which a lot of people still don't do even with videos like Arreks' weapon workshop series existing. But it's another to understand why and when monsters will do certain things. I've never seen anybody explain it as well as you do. So take my subscription and please make more of these

  • @brambl3014
    @brambl3014 Жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot, for the breakdown of your thought during a run

  • @IplayTeemoasaWard
    @IplayTeemoasaWard Жыл бұрын

    Cool video! Love the analysis! On the topic of the charge blade, I want to point out something I just discovered, the channel Mikarai posted a video called "charge blade is beautiful" and in it he uses the reposition wirebug at the right time to force the Nargacuga to jump in front of him every time. I looked at this and my brain expanded to like 3x the size :D so I hope no one will call charge blade braindead to play, just like Greatsword , theres layers to the positioning

  • @Giant_O
    @Giant_O Жыл бұрын

    As someone who likes their stake so well done, most chefs get offended, I feel personally obliged to boost your engagement. Also great video, really enjoying theses breakdowns. :)

  • @chibbychaps6445
    @chibbychaps6445 Жыл бұрын

    One question I have is how much time and how many attempts does it typically take up until a run such as this?

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Depends on the run! Sometimes a couple days of trying for about 3 hours per day, sometimes 2 weeks!

  • @Joseph_mh

    @Joseph_mh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CeraCymmetry sometimes never 😭

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Joseph_mh sadge

  • @rarekush1767

    @rarekush1767

    Жыл бұрын

    about 1-never hours for any speedrun

  • @lionhart3865
    @lionhart3865 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video Cera. Wanting to learn CB soon, hammer sucks.

  • @ShupperDupper
    @ShupperDupper Жыл бұрын

    A small note about your dango skill choice: if you want Super Recovery active while hunting a monster it needs to be activated at level 4, otherwise it is disabled while under the Red Eye agro status.

  • @PetalousPanoply
    @PetalousPanoply Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @someone999555
    @someone999555 Жыл бұрын

    6 minutes and 40 seconds into the video: just sort of rapid fire going through those skills... love the detail in this video, and i do appreciate you talking about your skill choices so thoroughly, but that cracked me up

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha, yeah I think “rapid fire” was probably the wrong word, but I’d rather be thorough lmao

  • @someone999555

    @someone999555

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CeraCymmetry well, its not much, but your thoroughness did earn you a new sub

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    @@someone999555 it’s much to me, thank you (:

  • @SeaTekMonstroso
    @SeaTekMonstroso Жыл бұрын

    Brother I love these kinds of videos and would love if you did more. Not even necessarily directed towards speedrunning but just a general guide like the one you did for Chameleos. Even against the tougher normal mobs like Almudron, Rathalos, Zinogre, Barrioth, Nargacuga, etc... Guides like that would shortcut my frustration greatly and I would very much appreciate it.

  • @paulgeno92
    @paulgeno92 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Do you have any tips on learning a monster moveset? I'm currently trying to speedhunt furious got a hard time trying to figure what the monster ai will do at some position.

  • @fabianschultz
    @fabianschultz Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see a breakdown of the speedrun. I wish more people would do that. Overall great explanation. It might be worth using counter morph guard points if you already have full phials. These give 30% more phial damage on SAED (though I‘m not sure if for elemphials too)

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I misspoke in the video, my mistake! I run counter morph in the run but said “normal guard morph” to differentiate it from Counter Peak 😅 sorry about the error!

  • @IronyLost25
    @IronyLost25 Жыл бұрын

    genuinely curious, is there a reason you didn't use Valstrax soul with strax helm to get you an easy dragonblight with the health drain, its essentially a free 20% dragon since you stay at low hp anyway

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Locks you out of a lot of set options and is a bit more risky, I was playing it safe with this one and Stormsoul (:

  • @masterhind2036
    @masterhind2036 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do a breakdown of Zebraquake's Sunbreak lance speedruns?(especially the afflicted Rathian and Furious Rajang ones)

  • @ultima10101
    @ultima10101 Жыл бұрын

    Not the first to comment this, but a resource of monster patterns, if there is one, would be amazing. This video shone a light on Malzeno's habits, which is useful for all weapons to know. Runners figure this stuff out through their rigorous trial and error, and probably brainstorming too, but if the masses could get their hands on these advanced nuggets of knowledge, that'd be huge. And I don't just mean the "X move is a good opening if dodged or blocked", but more the "X move very commonly follows into Y move if positioned in this way" type of knowledge.

  • @ultima10101

    @ultima10101

    Жыл бұрын

    There was this video series for World/Iceborne, "The Artful Dodger", it broke down some of the high profile monsters move by move, and I would love it if there was something similar to that for more monsters out there, be it video or text or images.

  • @Evilta
    @Evilta Жыл бұрын

    "It looks like I'm just spamming the same move but it's a bit more complicated than that" Me, a hammer user, SAY IT!!!

  • @IAMKYDGHOST
    @IAMKYDGHOST Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad someone can actually explain that theres a lot more that goes into speedrunning than just big number slap monster. Yes it may look simple but its an art and practice that you must know how to manipulate the monsters to your advantage

  • @RobinLeft
    @RobinLeft Жыл бұрын

    You mentioned you knew how much damage you needed to do to knock Malzeno out of his powered-up mode. Where did you get that info? I've found resources that show stagger and part break thresholds and the like, but I haven't seen anything like that

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Didn’t look it up, it’s more a feeling, and from seeing how many SAEDs it takes to pop the aura from practice (:

  • @carrotspace8593
    @carrotspace8593 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone that has played a single hunt with CB will tell you that it’s a lot harder than it looks, but it also means it’s a lot more fun than you think lol

  • @Vazc0
    @Vazc0 Жыл бұрын

    not sure if i just missed it, but are the 3 red spiribirds in the small cave right next to the second camp not worth going for?

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Too much of a time loss to grab them in a run this short (:

  • @Vazc0

    @Vazc0

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CeraCymmetry guessed so.

  • @connormccarthy2745
    @connormccarthy2745 Жыл бұрын

    "engagement... Algorithm... Fuck" absolutely killed me. Funny dude

  • @underoath350
    @underoath350 Жыл бұрын

    crack addict moment gz on 10k anglo

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    smoking that Reagan pack

  • @EternalMelody
    @EternalMelody Жыл бұрын

    For casual runners it's "simple". Just copy a top runner 😆. Jokes aside great informative vid Cera Cymmetry! Great delivery. I'm medium well btw.

  • @superbones5000
    @superbones5000 Жыл бұрын

    Why not use guard up at all? Just not needed for Malzeno or is it just not needed in general?

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Not needed for Malz, as far as I know he doesn’t do any unblockable attacks (:

  • @iancabuling1987
    @iancabuling1987 Жыл бұрын

    "you guys are on crack.." *Subscribes immediately

  • @theCybertier
    @theCybertier Жыл бұрын

    Noob question: how do you charge the sword charged after counter peak?

  • @RobinLeft

    @RobinLeft

    Жыл бұрын

    Press the top face button

  • @kitstorm5326
    @kitstorm5326 Жыл бұрын

    Idk who thinks speedrunning is braindead/spammy - probably those that have hardly ever solo'd or tried to do a speedrun themselves! trying to get the monster to do the move you want so that you CAN spam that one move is like 90% of speedrunning... loved the commentry, I for one learnt some very useful stuff!

  • @midorixiv

    @midorixiv

    Жыл бұрын

    there are a surprising amount of people who think that, for some reason whenever speedrunning is mentioned there are some people who just can't stop spewing dumb scrubquotes about it

  • @Zaney_
    @Zaney_ Жыл бұрын

    wow, that is a tiny malzeno.

  • @Croyles
    @Croyles Жыл бұрын

    Love playing charge blade and know there is a lot more to these speedruns, but fighting Malzeno who's timings seems to be MADE for CB I point to his fight in particular when people gush about CB's complexity while rubbing their own nipples in comparison to other "simple" weapons that have to do more stuff. Like I'm not all that good on charge blade and I can still get very good times (obviously not speedrun times that takes a lot more effort like you say) on Malzeno and some other select monsters compared to weapons I am a lot more used to. The truth is it really just depends on the monster.

  • @Polopollo75
    @Polopollo75 Жыл бұрын

    No idea where you guys find that a monster will follow up with x and y attacks and not another. And that if you are close enough he will reposition etc. You are the first one to mention that so I'm learning, but there aren't a lot of resources about these online, is there? Also I will not spend a week on a monster lol, kudos to you! Nice run, thank you!

  • @Drischa

    @Drischa

    Жыл бұрын

    You find it by fighting the monster over and over and noticing the patterns. I can read nargacuga or malzeno like a book because I've fought them so much, but goss harag I still struggle because I've simply barely fought him. It depends on the person too, some people learn certain patterns better than others.

  • @killermelga
    @killermelga Жыл бұрын

    My stance on mods, not as a speedrunner but as a spectator, is as follows. If it's something that minimizes rng rolls that would only waste the runner's time by forcing an immediate reset I'm 100% fine with - Spawn locations. There's no gain in leaving it to chance imo. "Oh it spawned where I didnt want to. Time to reset, which takes no skill and serves no purpose other than make me sit through 3 loading screens" - Size/Health rolls. Same issue as above, although health I guess is more debatable because you'd open an additional dango slot. But maybe a compromise would be to add a rule that you need the dango weakener in conjunction with the mod, I dont know As for talismans: yeah taken to the extreme it _only_ saves time given you could always get the god roll, but if it's so rare it's effectively unreasonable to expect one to drop at all maybe that's pushing it a bit too far? I guess the issue is that everyone would have a different threshold for what's "too rare". Is 1% too rare? Is 0.00000000001% not rare enough? So if I had to rule it I would just say open the gates and allow people to mod whatever talismans they want and call it a day

  • @ShardtheWolf

    @ShardtheWolf

    Жыл бұрын

    The big thing with modded talismans is that speedrunning *is* competitive. Why should I lose my ranking because someone else got lucky with a 1 in a million charm? If i'm out there with a wex 2 charm, and someone else has a wex 2 crit boost 2 charm, they can play the hunt sloppier and still get a faster time. Modding for time attack is less about rng removal (although it is that too), and more about having an even playing field to compete on.

  • @ShardtheWolf
    @ShardtheWolf Жыл бұрын

    I have a feeling I know the exact comment that prompted this...

  • @polinttalu7102
    @polinttalu7102 Жыл бұрын

    I like my steak to be varied, probably 2 medium rare and 1 well done steak

  • @treykincy
    @treykincy Жыл бұрын

    Well done steak gang

  • @6DADADA
    @6DADADA Жыл бұрын

    The amount of mental gymnastics to do a speedrun is insane. Idk how anyone thinks that it's easy and I haven't seen anyone say it's easy

  • @izzymosley1970
    @izzymosley1970 Жыл бұрын

    The main thing I don't like about monster Hunter speed runs is most of the time the monster doesn't even get to fight back I'm glad speed runs like this exist or else they would all be so boring to watch.

  • @bandi642
    @bandi64211 ай бұрын

    im not going to sugar coat it: lb + B, Y + B

  • @daltontaylor6184
    @daltontaylor6184 Жыл бұрын

    I am engaged. Just like that poor Malzeno.

  • @Gohma55
    @Gohma55 Жыл бұрын

    Heretical to be a monster hunter fan and not prefer Well Done

  • @jucalyun2099
    @jucalyun2099 Жыл бұрын

    Wheres the monster hunter 1 part2?

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    coming soon!

  • @HCZS_MonsterHunter
    @HCZS_MonsterHunter Жыл бұрын

    unga bunga ugh ugh

  • @SilentShadeShua
    @SilentShadeShua Жыл бұрын

    Monster hunter is crack lol good point budli lol

  • @Duppy0906
    @Duppy0906 Жыл бұрын

    i understand the mods for charms but i personally dont like the people how mod stuff like location, lowest hp roll, taking out small mons, etc. Never thought about the making the monster smaller mod but that one seems ight since monsters have like a lot of different sizes in the code

  • @user-rz5yk5sr7t
    @user-rz5yk5sr7t Жыл бұрын

    Imo charge blade has felt awful to play, and I can't quite put my finger on it. Whether it is it's move set basically got 0 love sunbreak, or that it requires so many skills, or if it's always been this way? I played cb all through world and loved it, why does it feel awful now? I can't figure it out. Every build I try feels rough around the edges. I've come to love bow and LS, and now messing with SA. Why does charge blade feel so awful.

  • @sephatu6521
    @sephatu6521 Жыл бұрын

    Only ignorant casuals would make easy claims. It's probably harder to be consistenr now since there are so many variables from the slopy terrain environmental traps and endemic supports. I'm not sure but perhaps some MR sunbreak monsters are more erratic in what actions they would follow up. they don't need to face you directly now compared to past games where you can bait more easily with positioning .

  • @tomifiend
    @tomifiend Жыл бұрын

    Mad respect but i still hate the fact that people use modded talismans

  • @SetariM

    @SetariM

    Жыл бұрын

    What would your solution be? I've spent hundreds of hours on Switch trying to get ONE talisman I need much less 2 and I still haven't gotten it. Much less my 100+ hours now in sunbreak over my 300+ hour total on PC as well. If speedrunners need the talisman for the build to have the run be successful, I say go for it. Casuals with +7 ATK boost and other stuff on a talisman that is obviously OP is a different matter though.

  • @tomifiend

    @tomifiend

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SetariM for speedrunning purposes it's fine, but my mind can't get at ease with it. I don't say there's a good solution for it. Maybe World's charm/deco grind was better after all. I've been spending multiple hundreds of hours getting charms in GU and Rise so i can relate but i always think just try to make do with what you have. After all it's part of the game.

  • @fabianschultz

    @fabianschultz

    Жыл бұрын

    Especially since we don’t know if any of these legitimately exist. Yeah, they fit in the rules but we don’t know whether or not there is a seed that spawns this exact talisman. Not all combinations are possible

  • @tomifiend

    @tomifiend

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fabianschultz you're damn right, even the best ones i have don't come anywhere close to what modders use in the videos

  • @fabianschultz

    @fabianschultz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tomifiend well not exactly. My best one is from base rise and atk 3 crit eye 2 and a lvl1 slot. Basically one slot off perfect. What I‘m saying is we don’t know if the gear used is actually legit. Somewhat similar would be if there is a set ingame where nobody knows how to get it or it isn’t available yet (such as some of the event armor) and we‘d use it. Also questionable is at what point a run becomes cheated. If you already remove the RNG in spawnbehavior and health and give yourself a godcharm, you could argue that it’s also fair to remove the RNG in the Monster AI making it spam the most punishable moves. As long as it’s theoretically possible that could behave this way if you’re lucky. Also 100% crit with a 10% crit chance and so on. I mean I get the reasoning the 100% food activation, spawn location and healthroll are to not have you reset all the time between attemps and the modded charms are to even the playing field. The only real solution and something I really wish for is if capcom decides to make it possible to create a charm you want by melding like 1000 others or so. That way, while it may take a while you know you‘ll eventually get your god charm. And the speedrunners can use their modded charms because at that point every charm would be legitimate and achievable.

  • @rarekush1767
    @rarekush1767 Жыл бұрын

    edit rng and show skill. that's the basic monster hunter rule

  • @LuisEdGm
    @LuisEdGm Жыл бұрын

    I know randomness is annoying when speedrunning, but modding the game to remove it is very lame, specially when other speedrunners do it without mods just fine.

  • @IDeVaste

    @IDeVaste

    Жыл бұрын

    Everyone mod their game. Expecting people to farm spawns or other when it can be fixed is not only lame but is not fair speedrunning. "Yeah let me reset for 8 hours to get 2 attempts in instead of 8 hours 400 attempts having good spawn" because as if someone is paying us to speedrun 😅

  • @xg3990
    @xg3990 Жыл бұрын

    This was a soeedrun in losing subs. GD you talk so much. 1 minute of MH, 20 minutes of you TALKING!

  • @CeraCymmetry

    @CeraCymmetry

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol bye

  • @akoya2491

    @akoya2491

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CeraCymmetry GIGACHAD

  • @xg3990

    @xg3990

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CeraCymmetry thats why you're asking for subs. Gigaincel

  • @rarekush1767
    @rarekush1767 Жыл бұрын

    only spaming saed and praying for rng. charge blade is not cool to speedrun as a speedrunner. i tried and lost my sanity. i've found other weapon matchups to be way more fun and forgot about saed. let me guess. you take narwa hammer vs narga or tigrex? i have it on my chanel for a benchmark i guess 🤷‍♂️

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