Very fair review. All I can say is having tried all the competitors, I ordered the MG. Quieter and more comfortable than the Kona for me, way cheaper for the same spec on the eNiro, Skoda, VWID4. I felt the MG was no worse than any of these Good solid, comfortable transport and no worse for that. It is even cheaper than a Zoe once you’ve spec’d it up as well. If I need excitement, I have motorcycles for that. We all know the truth is you can hardly exploit performance on todays roads. And I must be odd in todays world because I don’t pay monthly, it’s way cheaper in the end but it means I have to save up rather than have it now. We pay our money and make our choices.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't simply down to performance though Brian. From the reviews of the updated cars I've read, it still lacks the refinement/development of the established competition. But of course not everyone places such things so highly on their list of priorities......

@devonbikefilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh a very valid point. In my opinion, the refinement of the MG was better than the Kona, the Peugeot E208, the Zoe and the ID3, not quite as good as the eNiro or the Tesla M3, but only by small margins, they are all more refined than my Volvo V70. Only the Tesla was noticeably quicker, it was the M3 long range I tried. It was undoubtedly the best vehicle, but it wasn’t £20,000 better, neither is the standard M3 £12,000 better. My opinion obviously and ultimately my choice, it’ll be interesting to see how it pans out.

@dom1664

2 жыл бұрын

@@devonbikefilms well said Brian. I couldn't agree more with you. I have ordered mine for March.

@joeinsogna8154

2 жыл бұрын

So true, that’s why I ordered a trophy in Red.

There is blind spot detection on this model! Also, the base model enyaq has absolutely no frills and way less range compared to the ZS trophy.... its a no brainer if you require the long range as your day to day. Great video mate!

@limitededition1053

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same, why would you compare a top MG ZS with a base model of another brand for similar money? Your not getting the same value.

In Australia, the MG ZS EV was the cheapest vehicle by quite a margin, even much cheaper than the Nissan Leaf. The MG ZS EVs are all pretty much sold out (it is rumoured a fleet purchased 600, virtually all the stock in Australia) and the new models will not arrive for about six months and are expected to cost more. I purchased an MG ZS EV and am very glad I did. As far as the new model goes, there are improvements but there is little that would justify me spending extra. I use my car as a city car and the 263 km range is not an issue. The original MG ZS EV gave a lot of Australians the opportunity to buy a lower-cost electric vehicle which is well made and does everything needed of a city car.

If I walked into a pub, and a man, slightly rotund, wearing a jacket, white T-Shirt, jeans and trainers with pink laces tried to sell me a car 🤔 I'd probably completely ignore him 👍

Keep it up with the very good work. One of the best hosts presenting automotive contents. Well done!

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Glad you enjoy the channel. Stay with us for even more content coming up this week!

I’m looking to move on from my Outlander PHEV and have tested a few EVs recently. Honestly the MG ZS blew me away. I’ve read and watched numerous reviews while doing research and I wasn’t expecting to like too much but it quickly jumped to the top of my list. It is far more refined than my Outlander (not hard) and nowhere near as dull to drive! My local MG dealer appears to be offering a dealer contribution equivalent to the plug in grant on the trophy models so it makes it a very tempting proposition. It’s decision time.

I've seen 0-60 done in 7.7 secs which is pretty quick, the challenge as mentioned in the reviews is stopping the wheels from spinning.

I have ordered this, and yes, I did look at the other cars like the enyaq, ki6, ionic and many more that starts where this one ends topped specked. I mean, the enyaq has a nice entry price, but it is stripped down on batteries and silly things like rear camera, smart cruise control, and the second you start adding some of those features, you sky rockets away from the top specked MG. So I don’t think it’s fair to say that you are nearing the other models, because then you a running into their sales pitch. The Enyaq ends on £50000-55000 When you have added the stuff you want. My norwegian MG ended on around £32436(we dont have tax on EVs) when I put everything on it, even the towing hook, so that would be around £ 37000 in UK I would guess. £13000-17000 cheaper then the Enyaq. But yeah, I did miss to be able to drag the stearing towards me, and the stearing wheel feels a little cheap…but that’s it, and not worth for my part to upgrade to a kia or skoda.

@altmaxi4605

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! someone who has actually done some research and appears to be more than what the video provides I'm afraid. You're totally correct, I've done the same research, compared MG against other brands when purchasing or when leasing and MG is a massively attractive proposition. Sorry to say to the OP but there's an air of snobbery or feel like there's some type of agenda being displayed. Every time he gets enthusiastic on something the car does well you see him pull back in his opinion like he doesn't want to give too much credit. As others have said in the comments, like Kia/Skoda were a few years back, MG seem to be in a similar space now and I think could be an exciting brand as years go on.

Very enjoyable review. I Like the What we Like and what we dont like approach to reviews

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Got my order in before the grant went by one day confirmed sorted. So happy otherwise I wouldnt have got it.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a really interesting point. Would you have bought the car 3 days later? Let us know @Shenol.

@MaDxStArZv

2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEV no I don't think so the monthly payments would have been close to model 3 lease pricing which would be a big no no I have 360 as my PCP pricing. It not a question of budget but quality if I pay 40-60 more a month what would I get for the money full spec id3 mid spec Id4 and the enyaq but they are now also affected by the same grant issue so who knows I might have held off from buying an ev for another year as this is my first. Government really screwed alot of people I think such a shame.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaDxStArZv that’s a great point. And for the record, most automotive media feels the same. If you are encouraging people to move to electric, this was the last thing to do. But is it up to the Government to get us low prices? Should we rely on them, or the manufacturers to bring us cheaper cars? Great to hear from a buyer and your experience.

Keep up the great work mate. Loving all this content :)

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

The 5 Reviews of Christmas!

Now only 24 000 in Norway with best 72 kw luxury trim, winter tyres and color choice. 7 years warranty, 3% on mortgage and 2 years free service and tyre hotel.

Great video. Basic features, but the range and the sunroof and entertainment system with Amazon prime music seems to be my favourites. Price is a little expensive for top of range, as new cars of better quality and technology admittingly approx £6000 more are out there. But overall the range is a no brainer, if you want a practical car and not much bothered with technology and speed performance which you can't do in this country anyway without breaking the law, then this car may be a perfect solution.

@woolychewbakker5277

2 жыл бұрын

Ummm. What technology do you think the Trophy Connect comes up short on when compared to other EVs ?

I took it it for a test drive & was impressed,

@rayjones9231

2 жыл бұрын

I presently drive a Jaguar XFS, so to be impressed with a relatively cheap ev is saying something. Mind you, at 71 I don’t need all that acceleration & speed, what I do need, is a low cost form of transport to make my pension go further. Not sure if I would buy one just yet. Let’s see what is coming to the market next year.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

@@rayjones9231 Interesting Ray. But to make a truly meaningful comparison, I'd try other EV's at a similar price, such as the VW ID3 or the Kia Soul.... What may also be of interest to you, as a potential EV buyer, is the fact that a huge deal to increase the size of the UK's public charging infrastructure, from 26'000 connections to 190'000 by 2030 has recently been agreed. And all are to have contactless payment facilities... Don't overlook the used EV market either Ray. There are some nice used examples out there already. Plus there are now dealers around whom specialise in electric vehicles only. Drive-Green and Go Green Autos are but 2 examples. There may be some more seemingly promising new Chinese EV's on their way to the market, but again it's likely they'll lack some of the driving and development finesse of the more established brands...

Hi Bryan - does the new model allow defrosting / heating from the app? The first models did not

Great channel. Lots of good information.

Trophy has 360 cameras, so would be interesting to test them. The blind spot looks bad as you mention, so would've been good to test the blind spot monitoring too. Good review though, thanks.

At 11:45, what are you talking about with the seat tilt? I've got the original ZS EV, and the seat seems completely adjustable to me. I can move it up, down, back, forwards and recline. What is it missing?

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

The tilt adjustment on the squab. There is a lack of under thigh support, but you can alleviate that by tilting the back of the squab and raising the front of it. You can’t do that on the seat of the MG. And you can’t adjust the reach of the steering wheel either.

@xorsyst1

2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEV I can see how that would be useful, don't think I've ever had a car that could do that though! The steering wheel is a small issue though.

Great review. Did the KERS switch remember the last setting between trips or did it keep defaulting to some preset level?

@kevinmc5626

2 жыл бұрын

it still defaults to level 3 but it's the best level to default to, imo

@mil3761

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmc5626 I know it's subjective so others may disagree but I also think level 3 would be best.

@holdontoyourwig

2 жыл бұрын

@@mil3761 You will find a difference going from an ICE car to the MG. You have to allow more time for the car to slow down. The Kers level 3 is not fantastic if you are wanting to slow down without using the break and it doesn't bring you to a complete stop. Saying that i have the gen 1 Mg and have just ordered the new gen 2 car. It's a fantastic car.

@mil3761

2 жыл бұрын

@@holdontoyourwig been driving an EV for 6 years, I'm no stranger to regen braking.

@holdontoyourwig

2 жыл бұрын

@@mil3761 Sorry i thought you were new to the EV market.

Nice video , thanks.. Just relaxing top model in Australia $48 k Looks nice Anyone know if the the Hifi system is any good with the Amazon steaming ??

Would you reccomend this for a family or the Citroen e-4?

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, interesting question! We love the Citroen eC4 (we’ve tested it on the channel if you haven’t watched that review) and it’s a supremely comfortable car. I’d say if you can live without the additional space the MG offers, and you don’t need the extra range, then I’d be tempted with the Citroen. The key with the ZS is to keep the spec level down or go for the standard range battery to maximise the value-for-money package it offers. It’s a very good car, but the eC4 is a hidden gem in our book. If you haven’t driven one, you should. That being said, the MG is a great, no-nonsense family car. You may want to watch next week’s video before you decide however!

Same issue here in the Netherlands. The price of the top spec ZS EV has increased substantially, putting it too close to the Kona, ID.3, e-Niro and the like, and these are accomplished EVs from reputable manufacturers. The lower trim models of the ZS EV have the best value proposition, the top spec one not so much anymore.

@johnblythe6261

Жыл бұрын

The difference here though is that the MG ZS EV is at its top trim level (with all the toys at sub £35,000) whereas those vehicles you mention have only basic trims with almost everything stripped off them, before you have to add them in or jump up trim levels and price increases to near £40,000 before you get anywhere near the ZS spec. As for reputation the Chinese company making these is an EV leader.

Nice video thanks !!!!

Excellent information regarding this vehicle 👍

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gerard. And thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.

I have a strange question. I hope to get one (though the waiting list is enormous. In Thailand where I live, the MG ZS EV is a connected car which I don't like. I have some chats with people on this and the question now is where the antennas for this are because I want to be able to disconnect them. Any idea?

Does it have the the same recall brake light kers issue as the MG5?

@kevinmc5626

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Source: trust me bro ;)

@dom1664

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmc5626 😀

The old version (that I have) does have seat rake adjustment - on both front seats. Did you mean something else?

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the steering wheel doesn't adjust for reach, and the seat wont tilt, only adjust for height. I find the under thigh support lacking which could be remedied by tilting the seat base back, but it won't do it.

Even with the price rise, it is only getting into the same space as the Skoda Enyaq 60 if you spec the 60 with nothing in it. The base spec comes with 4 wheels and a motor and not much else.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

I feel I am going to be repeating myself a lot here, but then that is my fault for not being clearer in the video. As I said to the myriad of others who have said the same, I understand the spec is different, and I completely get that you would have to spend closer to £40k to have the same spec on the Skoda. HOWEVER, the Enyaq drives better, is bigger, and you only lose about 20 miles of range on the WLTP, so my point is, those are sacrifices that "I" would be willing to make to have the Skoda. Please don't get me wrong, the MG is still a great car for the money, but our advice is to maximise that value-for-money proposition, then you are better having the SE (still well equipped) or waiting until the standard battery car arrives to take advantage of the PiCG. Phew..... Thank you for watching Richard, and taking the time to comment. Your support is appreciated.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly Richard. The long range ZS EV is now knocking on the door of £32k..... Lots of healthy and better developed competition at that price.... For this sort of money I'd take a Kia Soul every time.......

@johnblythe6261

Жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh The Soul is great, but it is woeful for practicality imo. I did consider it but the boot space is unacceptable for my purposes. Also the in-car tech is pretty lacking really. It feels a bit bare bones compared to the likes of the MG, again just my opinion on that though.

The steering wheel is a Golf GTi one, SAIC make VW's in China under licence. auto dipping mirror would be a good improvement. and adjustable steering reach. Rover used to have that problem, it was something to do with air bags not killing you when they go off, no reach means your arms are straight, keeping you safe.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we cover the fact that SAIC build VWs in the original ZS video.

Not referring to this review however, I notice that most reviewers keep comparing cheaper models with more expensive cars and equipment. Why? Just describe what you find, the only comparison should be of a car of similar type and price range of which case this beats most if not all of them.

I’ve just had one of the top end ZS EV as a company car in 2024. Sad to realise I could have had the new kona instead. I pick it up today : That said I do so many miles my boss bought it outright with a competitive discount so that’s something albeit not necessarily for me haha

How many legacy auto makers would have made these range of changes in such a short space of time? Had MG told me about these revisions I would have waited and purchased one rather than the Kia Soul 2021 EV.

@12alocin

2 жыл бұрын

Is that just artistic license or do you really mean it?

@Richard-io9xe

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy your Soul EV. The MG is a good value proposition for sure, but the Soul is a much better car. I have a 2020 Fiirst Edition and its fabulous.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

Really Martin? I doubt the MG could hold a candle to the Kia's driving dynamics.... or it's energy efficiency.

@martinbeck7362

2 жыл бұрын

Brian you are correct, but what about the price difference?

Will it still have the rust problem like the old car The rusting under the floor. The old car had poor rustproof.

@woolychewbakker5277

2 жыл бұрын

Ummm. No it didn’t and doesn’t .

A couple of points, I think you mentioned that you wished it had blind spot monitoring due to the view out of the back. The model you were driving does have it. Secondly I have gone on both the MG site and the Kia site as you mentioned that the MG is getting into the price range of the E Niro and if purchased on a PCP contract you would be paying £7,000 more for the E Niro 2 which has a similar range.

@oorya1780

2 жыл бұрын

PS I don't own an MG but have been considering dipping my toes in the EV market but might pull them out now the grant has been reduced😉

@stuartburns8657

2 жыл бұрын

@@oorya1780 It's aways the case Martin. The grants should be means tested, as those MOST able to afford a new expensive car / ev get the best discounts and help with home charger installation, whilst those more used to modest 2nd hand vehicles 14k Prices for the EV's are going in the wrong direction as well lol

I want one, I own a 40kw leaf but feel the range is not enough for my needs but suck with a pcp just now😩

Decide to go down the full electric line and after watching this review I looked at both the Skoda and the MG, can't see why you were speaking so highly about the Skoda, it looked as if someone had stuck an I'PAD to the dash of a 1970 Lada, I know which one I prefer.

Review could have been more positive considering the price. But MG do need to improve on under body sealing drivers seat position back... Rust is not good to see after a few months ownership.

I test drove, Kia Nero, Kona, Enyak, and VW ID4, I ordered the ZS EV Trophy long range in Red, in depth review, but a poor one you missed a bunch of features, MG has blind spot, MG Pilot, etc. The MG of today delivers features that we are willing to pay for, and the brand is growing due to demand, it’s not the British owned MG sports luxury, the not so practical brand of yesteryear, that failed many moons ago, don’t understand why this was mentioned in the review 🤔

@holdontoyourwig

2 жыл бұрын

I have the first gen Exclusive. I have ordered the new MG base model. I have hardly ever opened the sunroof. I even keep the blind closed to avoid glare and overheating. This winter i have used the heated seat once.....and only for a few minutes as it eats the electric ( as does the heater ) . Once you have set the electric powered drivers seat....why would you ever need to alter it ? ( unless your other half uses the car on a regular basis ) Basically i have found the extras are not worth the money. I was one of the first owners of the car when it was launched so got a good discount and free home charger. I felt at the time the extra £2000 was worth it because i had saved £7000 with the discounts ( not including the wall box which would have been another £500 or even more ) Having said that the car is fantastic and I'm more than happy to stick with the brand.

Just ordered the Trophy long range one via the MG affinity scheme (11% discount for public sector workers). Its competitors are at least £4k more and don't have as good discounts. The next near option was a VW ID 3 with a smaller battery and spec, but the trim in that is awful. I didnt get to try the Enyaq, but you are talking £40k for a similar spec. The only issue with the MG is the badge.

@stuartburns8657

2 жыл бұрын

Have you got the car yet Neil? My wife works for the NHS, as that discount might nudge me towards one of these..

@neilanderson2374

2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartburns8657 not yet. August at the earliest. If you order now you are talking 2023 delivery

@stuartburns8657

2 жыл бұрын

@@neilanderson2374 Wow. Did you manage to also get the £2,500 grant when the threshold was still 35k? Kind of torn, as the 1st gen infotainment was dreadful, but the 165 mile range wasn't a problem. Love the gen 2, but wish it also had a smaller range battery. Big jump up in price given with both of our ice cars, we don't manage 8k miles pa.. Good luck 👍

@neilanderson2374

2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartburns8657 No. We had a good play on the infotainment system. Looked fine to us

@stuartburns8657

2 жыл бұрын

@@neilanderson2374 Good to hear. Thanks Neil

The number of electric vehicles and types of vehicles and trucks is growing. Many people are holding off buying a new car or electric scooter until the electric vehicle they want becomes available. ICE sales and market share are declining while EV sales are growing.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone who is contemplating buying a new £20 to £30k (or beyond) ICE car may have some serious pondering to do now. Because in 4 to 5 years time, the market for these cars will be much changed, with residual values being but a fraction of what they presently are..... Some dealers may be starting to show reluctance to take them in part exchange by then. Pure EV sales have now reached almost 25% of the new car market in Germany.....and in the UK I think we're approaching 10% now..

Good review. Just when you say whe sittkngr in the backseat that you are" 5ft7 or 5ft 8" im going to say 5ft 6. Ots okay just state it a it is

What a load of codswallop! Trophy isn't far off basic enyaq. Ye, and the basic enyaq has no kit and a much shorter range. I had a quote for a basic enyaq with a few features that I would consider essential on an ev and it was way dearer than a tesla m3. The enyaq is vastly overpriced, never mind compared to this. ZS Trophy has far more features, for much less money. Anyone parting with their money for an enyaq has more money than sense. Go for this or a Tesla, and pocket the savings.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

The range of the Enyaq isn’t that much shorter, and yes, the MG is better equipped. But the Skoda is much bigger and is a vastly better car to drive, so my point (which I didn’t make clear to be fair) was that I’d sacrifice the equipment and those few miles to have a car that is better to drive. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.

@devonbikefilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEV which if you need a bigger car is fine, buy it, if you don’t them I guess it’s all about impressing people we don’t know? I found the ID3, ID4 and the Enyaq kit levels pretty disappointing, especially having to pay (a lot) extra for the same safety kit that will come as standard in my Trophy. Then there are reasonable question marks over VW recent cheating on emissions (allegedly) and that after being caught with their “diesel gate”. I felt they were doing what they’ve always done, listing a notional ‘sackcloth and ashes’ version to get the headline low price, but you try and buy one in that spec, it’s darn near impossible, my dealer suggesting that I should add packages to improve delivery times, as they “don’t make them in the basic specification unless it’s a special order which would take months”. Now I know he would say that, and let’s not forget VW groups software is hardly glitch free…….

@banno69

2 жыл бұрын

By the time I had specced an Enyaq (which honestly is one of the most ridiculous cars to spec) I was looking at an extra £200+ per month over the Trophy I've ordered. I appreciate the Enyaq is purpose-designed as an EV and has a bigger boot and looks nicer but that price difference over a 4 or 5 year lease is mental. As a side note, I think it was actually cheaper to spec a Tesla Model 3 over the Enyaq. I do not think you can compare the MG to an Enyaq. The equipment differences are astronomical for the base price. Also, when you kept saying certain features were 'OK' what were you comparing the car to price and spec wise? The MG was a delightful test drive. I'm coming from a top-spec i3 which is a hoot to drive but the MG in terms of price and kit trumps it in every way.

I hope that you get to review the MG Marvel R.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

So do we!

@vorlon81

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the New MG5 Facelift model as well

Nice ev

I test drove the old car before deciding to purchase a E-Niro, I found it to be rather loud with the sunroof rolled back, the ride wasn't great, and the layout of the controls particularly that for the re-gen was not great.

@chrisp7214

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same..had the E Niro 4+ for 2 months now....I did have the first gen MGZS EV...which was good, but the Niro feels more sorted...but @ £39k ..you would expect it to.

@iallso1

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisp7214 it is a frightening amount of money to spend on a car, I had a Hyundai Ioniq EV for 18 months previously, it was the elite spec and a really lovely car, but I'm certainly not disappointed with the E-Niro.

Does anyone know if the new MG will regen during cruise control? I believe the old one wouldn’t.

@bjorns4917

2 жыл бұрын

It won't.

The update is a creditable effort, but the pricing of the new longer range version moves it into within a whisker of Kia Soul and VW ID3 money. It'll be a slightly tougher sell at that price.... And from the reviews I've seen so far, the facelift hasn't addressed things like the general build quality and the driving dynamics (brake feel and road manners). Better? Yes, but still not *quite* there yet......

@hooksforestchin

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is most people aren't buying EVs with cash, they're either company cars or leased. The lease on the Soul, which is what I expected to choose as an EV, is £50pm more than the Trophy version. It'll be interesting to see if any manufacturers do anything to try and get a model under the new £32k grant limit. MG has already got that, although I'd really want the additional bits of kit the Trophy comes with. Actually, what I'd really want is a supermini sized vehicle that still has >200 mile range and is a realistic price which no one seems to do, yet. The Ora Cat could be a game changer if it's any good once driven and doesn't have a Zoe NCAP score.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

@@hooksforestchin Probably a fair percentage of that £50 per month more leasing cost of the Soul would be eroded by it's superior energy efficiency though...... I was given to understand that the grant applies only to the initial purchase cost, and that you are able to add options on top of that, and still retain grant eligibility?

@stuartburns8657

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh Is that correct Brian. Was you able to confirm that? So essentially you can get base model x,y,z (32k or under) and add the bling on top which doesn't counts towards the limit?

Excellent review. The feeling was it's really for people who aren't too bothered about the ride quality and want something that works and has safety and other useful features that other manufacturers charge extra for. ( Beige plus plus ?)

The 11kw onboard charger mentioned 14:00 is only on the Euro models not the UK one which is the standard 7kw. Also you forgot to mention another big plus ...the vehicle to load capability ...even the oft mentioned Enyaq doesn't I believe have that.....you would need to spend a heck of a lot more on an Ionic5 or EV6 to get that. The lovely pano roof is also a big plus and the much better range than the Enyaq ...am sorely tempted to upgrade my mk1 (had a test drive of this new one 2 weeks ago and loved it) ...just this bl**dy moving the goal posts on the grant by the government has put a spanner in the works. :(

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are correct, the V2L is another addition to the MG. As you say, moving to this new car from the previous generation is a sensible option…..right up to they changed the threshold of the PiCG!

@mcdon2401

2 жыл бұрын

In the same boat as you Tom, upgrading was possible, and plans were afoot to part ex the mk1 for the mk2, then the loss of grant and increase in price pushed it out of reach. Ball is back in MG's court now, if they decide to offer discounts

@Langersport

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcdon2401 I’ve noticed my local MG dealer is applying a dealer contribution equivalent to the plug in car grant to the trophy models. Maybe yours is too?

Hi, but this version is 2022. Why is the title misleading? I will e grateful to you if you detail the differences between the 3 trims; SE, Trophy and Trophy Connect.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

The date refers to the time of the test, not the model year of the car.

As an owner of the mgzs ev ,I thought your review was a bit harsh .press the pedal in eco mode n press n press n press,before you go ,I don’t think so,not in my car.remember it’s an suv type vehicle not a gt .

I agree that it's major shortcomings are the lack of tilt seat adjustment and steering wheel reach. Otherwise it's still a very competitive price. Oh hang on, hasn't the Govt. just moved the top two models out of the grant range..........and taken £1k off the grant. Doh! Did you mention V2L? An extra, sure and not as powerful as the Ioniq 5 and EV6, but not bad for the price? Apart from the grant and.....

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot to mention the V2L, but that’s my bad. As I said, it is a good car, and that lower SE model is probably the one to have as it is still under £30k even after the revised grant. Otherwise, the smaller battery one is probably worth waiting for as it’s still a near 200 mile range.

How can you compare it with thw Enyaq....the Skoda is basic and you have to add all the refinements to it.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul. I’ve been over and over this with lots of other comments. I know they don’t compare on specification, HOWEVER, my point is, as a family EV, would you sacrifice the nice toys to have a much bigger car that drives much better? My point is the value proposition that the MG once was has dwindled in the light of the other EVs such as the Enyaq coming to market at competitive prices. The advice we end on is to stick to the basic SE car or wait until the smaller battery car comes so the value of the MG is restored.

*Right Car - Right Price - what could go wrong - Maybe in the UK Rusting Issues ?*

@Petelmrg

2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen a Chinese winter?

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

You'd have to consider sorting that yourself. Getting it professionally Waxoyled at £250-ish might be worthwhile...... The lack of thorough rust proofing is probably one of the corners cut to reach that bargain basement price tag.

Another lack in the interior is that there is no light for rear seats.

Most of the reviewers are concerned about Performance and Smartness whereas many of the customers are looking for reliability and durability. When a new model comes, no one talks about what has been done to make it more reliable. It's a kind of review for rich buyers. Concerns about comfort, the speed that has no use, ETC. Steering adjustment has been pointed as a major flaw here but I do not think there is any fixed driving comfort. It's like office sitting, you need to move a bit every now and then to remain comfortable but again, concern for rich buyers. Compared with eNiro and put behind it. eNiro and most KIA have a very ugly design. What about that? The design has no price? The new MG is a very classy-looking small SUV. Anyways, I hope a good reviewer like him and others will try to find information about reliability also. Some reliability comes after trying out for a long term but car companies should also mention why their car can be reliable, not only smart ass. A poor buyer needs to know if it will stay running 5 more years after the warranty ends.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

We ran a MINI Electric for a few months last year and were able to comment on longer term reliability. Of course, this is something we would love to do more of, but it is a little tricky when we only get the cars for a week at the most. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment however.

You cannot compare it with a Skoda 60 price, which does not have the equipment

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

But the Skoda could be argued to have higher overall quality, and considerably better driving qualities due to being better developed.... The Skoda's residuals will also probably be superior....

@woolychewbakker5277

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh it could argued, but it hasn’t.

Unpopular opinion but I think the grill has got worse

This seems a very negative review. The car does have blind spot monitoring, it also has 3D/all around camera's. Most cars don't have in/out adjustment of the steering wheel or tilt adjustment of the seats - especially at this price point. I've owned Merc's, Audi's etc. But having just bought an ZS EV LR, I find it to be a really good car for the money. I'm getting 200 miles plus, per charge and expect this to improve as the weather gets better. It's not perfect, but what car is? For most people, it is an affordable, comfortable and roomy car to meet every day needs at a reasonable price. Something that isn't mentioned very often is that it is sooooo quiet! The safety and drivability is brilliant, such as radar controlled cruise control, speed limit awareness etc. etc. I swapped to an EV with a lot of reservations, the MG ZS Mk2 has more than exceeded my expectations.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Paul and taking the time to comment. However, let me counterpoint. This isn’t a negative review. We love the MG ZS EV, but my point is, the better value for money option is to go for the lower specification car to make the most of the savings. I will also add that many cars at this level (and many cheaper cars) have reach/rake adjustment of the steering column. The ZS is a great car, but we have to acknowledge that as the price creeps up, customer expectations increase and MG have to remember that. But the fact remains, we do like the car and do still think it is a great buy.

@ashb8572

2 жыл бұрын

Being a MG5 long range owner, I agree more so with the points represented by the video being a little critical. Its a shame the government grant changed as the Korean EVs against the higher spec ZS LR makes its a hard sell. I'm sure the range efficency and customer service of the likes of Kia is a deal maker for most when making a decision

This car does have blind spot monitoring in the door mirrors

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Correct, which we mention.

@adamalle

2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEV Ah my apologies, I misheard you - enjoyed the review, I test drove Trophy today... Unconvinced - have a 2017 Leaf currently

It’s not cheap. You dont pay as much up front but your money flits away faster in massive depreciation.

You keep comparing it to the Enyaq when I wouldn't even say they are in the same class of vehicle! is that because they are both EVs? You are comparing a small SUV with a medium sized one. E-Niro, Kona, C4, 2008 are all closer in size. It's like saying if you buy a top of the range Fiesta, you can almost buy a base spec Focus.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

My point is, if you wanted bang for your buck, then the Skoda is the better option once you get to £34,000. I completely agree with your point, and I do mention in the 'competitors' section that the Peugeot e2008, Vauxhall Mokka e (and though I don't mention it, the Hyundai Kona) are more natural rivals when it comes to size. Your point about the Fiesta and Focus is a goos one, however, both are great driving cars, so you'd pick the one that suits you. But here we have a car that doesn't drive as well as a car from the class above that is much bigger as a family car and offers a better value for money proposition. I think a lot of people have misunderstood what I am saying about the new ZS. I like it, I really do. I think it is a great car. But the USP of it was always value, and with the price increase and removal of the plug-in car grant for the Trophy and Trophy Connect trims, its harder to justify when compared with cars at a similar price. Hence I conclude by saying go for the SE trim, or wait until the Standard Battery car comes along and then it becomes a bit of a bargain again.

The new model like this one have Automatic Climate control so yes it's lot better. The infotainment touch screen I only heard it's better.

Nowadays, cars are "white goods" driving is no longer a pleasure it is a chore. Price wise the MG is much cheaper than the competition. Finance packages just move the final payment. Enyaq iV does not get anywhere near the kit in the MG. The Enyaq is the cheapest of the VW group cars - the ID 4 is £8k more without alloys. VW group also charge for the charger £1250. else you have very slow charge only. So compare apples to apples.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve already explained on numerous occasions on here my reasoning for comparing it to the Enyaq. It’s a simple choice of, would you choose an inferior driving smaller car with high equipment level over a car from the class above that offers more room and is a better steer and sacrifice the toys. I personally would, hence my point of comparing.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

@Wooly Chewbakker as in the size or market class. I’m not suggesting it’s classier. Like a Discovery Sport to a full size Discovery, or a Fiesta compared to a Focus.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

@@woolychewbakker5277 you need to re-read what I said. I’m talking about the price of the top of the range ZS, not the entry level. The test cad we had was the range topper which is the same as the base Enyaq. Now I know the equipment level is much different, but that’s my point. Would you rather sacrifice the equipment of the MG and have the bigger (and better driving) Enyaq? Many families would. So, my advice was to stick with the lower spec MG where the price was the advantage.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

@@woolychewbakker5277 At no point have I said that the MG is a bad car. Time and time again we have lauded the virtues of the ZS (including our original road test back in 2019) and we continue to do so. My point is purely that the better option (in my opinion) is that the lower spec model or higher spec with smaller battery is where we see the sweet spot in terms of value for money. That’s all. Yes, the Enyaq drives better and offers much more space for the family, but of course there are compromises to be made with that. The same with the Kia eNiro, another car that drives better than the MG. But don’t for a minute think I don’t like the MG because I do. I always have. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.

There is traffic warning on the mirrors

@rayjones9231

2 жыл бұрын

Blind spot monitoring

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you @Ray. I stand corrected.

All of the new EV's whatever brand have recalls for fire. what have you got to say about this?

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

EVs are no more dangerous than driving around with a tank of flammable liquid underneath you. Same as hydrogen cars. According to a recent study, 1,529 ICE cars per 100k went on fire as opposed to 25 EV’s per 100k. Let’s not start throwing wild accusations around. That’s what I have to say about that.

Won’t all those competitors lose their government grant too? And none of them have the range of the ZS for the price.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they will, but the margin of the price difference will remain the same. And my point is, I’d sacrifice a bit of range (only 20 miles on the WLTP cycle between the Enyaq and this, and the Niro is pretty much identical) and some spec to have a bigger, better driving car as a family car. Look, the MG is NOT a bad car, I really like it, but the whole point is, because of the price change it starts to lose some of the appeal that was its value. Hence my advice at the end to stay in the lower SE spec or wait until the Standard Battery car comes out. This is a very good car, and it is improved over the first one, but they have to be careful as they are pricing it close to better competition.

Only problem is if you don't like coffee when you are fannying about looking for a working charger

@holdontoyourwig

2 жыл бұрын

I've had my MG for 2 years and have never used a public charger. 99.9% of people charge at home and never need to plug in on public chargers. The average daily commute in Britain is 20 miles a day.

It does have blind spot monitoring. Do your homework mate. Thats just one thing you got wrong. There were 3 more. Let's see if you can find them.

Tell me what the tories have done for the environment??? Sweet fa comes to mind. How the hell are the masses suppose to be able to buy a EV. For decent range still talking 30 grand plus for an acceptable range.

Wow 26 minutes to say Meh!

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

You can’t say we aren’t dedicated to the cause…..! Thanks for watching.

What an ignorant review, clearly some snobbery involved for the attitude given when reviewing the MG. I've just watched the Ford Mach-E vs Audi Q4 E-tron and both vehicles whilst obviously having a more quality build, do they really offer anything more than what the MG achieves...? Imo from what you've stated in both videos the MG has more to offer! Appreciate differing vehicles to those two but the MG Trophy when compared against its competitors is a really exciting proposition. Really does look a great choice for anyone whether new to EV's or not.

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Believe me, no snobbery at all. I’m fact, I’m wondering if you really listened. You see, I really rate The ZS, but what I say is, perhaps the better value proposition is left to the lower trim level, or the smaller battery, where the price is kept below the grant threshold. That’s all. The MG is a great car, but perhaps st the very top level, the value for money element isn’t quite there. That’s all I say. Anyway, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

Too big and as you stated Prices hiked upwards - so no way MG will I be driving yours.

@holdontoyourwig

2 жыл бұрын

Size.....Not that big. Just a nice crossover example. Price....Because it has a bigger battery.......plus some better tech. Not to mention EVERYTHING has gone up in price.

What is weird with all these car reviews is that they forget the most important part. How much can it drive itself?

@AutoEV

Жыл бұрын

I’ve started this reply many times Samuel. I have to be honest, cars that “drive themselves” are of absolute no interest to us at AutoEV. We are open to new forms of propulsion and energy, but in our minds, the driver is still key. We are enthusiasts who are willing to accept there is an alternative to internal combustion, but not to how that is controlled. We still believe the driver is an integral part of the machine, and long may that continue.

@SamuelHauptmannvanDam

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoEV I believe it. It's fascinating and super clear that many of you love driving and think of yourself as drivers of cars. While I see myself as someone who commutes and is interested in how the car is getting me from A to B. And the less I have to do the better. I'd suggest a segment for the vast majority of us who drive out of necessity and not for leisure? 😊

@AutoEV

Жыл бұрын

@@SamuelHauptmannvanDam whilst we accept there are forms of autonomy in these newer cars, we have no more than a passing curiosity in anything more. Perhaps @fullycharged are your guys for that?

@SamuelHauptmannvanDam

Жыл бұрын

@@AutoEV sure. But this feels a lot like a iphone moment and you are telling me you want to focus on reviewing qwerty keyboards for blackberry phones.

@AutoEV

Жыл бұрын

@@SamuelHauptmannvanDam We want to focus on reviewing cars that we can drive. Whilst I have no doubt that the autonomous car is close, for us, that isn't driving. And as we are are a channel that puts driving, and therefore the joy of that experience, self-driving cars won't feature. We will leave that to technology channels.

Bad day? It’s so cheap

Wow, what a biased load of rubbish. Kia lover tries to make out that the new ZS is disappointing... After taking Kia Renault VW and Vauxhalls to name some of my 6 month search for an EV for the family I have put an order in for a new trophy in red. Can't believe he missed out on the LED notifications in the mirror or the traffic assist modes, the infotainment is as nippy as any other. Range is better than anything at the price. If this reviewer thinks this is a basic car or not as good as any other ...... Go and try one for yourself... Didn't like or subscribe to this biased drivel as bas as the BBC...

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment, however I feel you are being unnecessarily harsh in your comment. I never once said it was a basic car, and I happen to really like the MG ZS (we loved it when we drove it back in 2019). I think it offers a lot for the money, however my verdict is that i feel that the best value in the range is going for the lower spec model with the bigger battery, or waiting for the standard range car to come out (which it now has) to take advantage of the lower price, Government grant at the higher spec. The fact remains, the car sails tantalisingly close to better cars when you stay at the top of the price list. It's not about being biased, but offering what we consider to be the right verdict for our viewers. I hope that helps explain a little more behind our reasoning. I appreciate, however, we are all different and we all like different things and come to different opinions. Thank you again for watching, and perhaps stick with us.

Terrible review, too much waffle…

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry you didn’t enjoy it. Thank you for watching though and taking the time to comment.

Its a piece of chinese junk fools and money are easily parted

@AutoEV

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, you’ve driven it I take it Ray? Interesting viewpoint. What was it about the car you didn’t like?

@omarbabakarkhail

2 жыл бұрын

Most cars have a bit of China in them. The best Teslas are currently the China models in terms of finish, the Polestar 2 is a Chinese car, several others as well. Even the phone or laptop you spewed this nonsense from is made in China.