MESA/Boogie Subway D800+ Overview and Demo Video
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The SUBWAY® D-800+™ addresses the player who wants enhanced frequency control and an interface for outboard signal processing. The 800+ preamp features expand on the acclaimed D-800™ front panel features by including a comprehensive EQ section with Semi-Parametric sweepable LOW and HIGH MID bands, a BRIGHT switch and an adjustable HI PASS Filter control from 30Hz to 150 Hz. On the rear panel, a Series Effects Loop provides a seamless interface for your outboard processing with the least possible degradation to your signal. Also, a dedicated Tuner Output and 1/4” Tuner MUTE footswitch jack round out the D800+ new features.
Local Bay Area bassist and Mesa Artist Ben Burleigh takes us through various playing styles and instruments showcasing the new features and controls with real world applications of the new D-800+.
Recorded with the D800+ head into Subway Ultra-Lite 2x10 and 1x15 cabinets via Beyer Dynamic Opus 99 (2x10) and a Beyer Dynamic M99 (1x15).
Subway D-800 Plus Overview
mesaboogie.com/amplifiers/bass...
Subway D-800+ Specifications
mesaboogie.com/amplifiers/bass...
You can catch more of Ben's bass playing at:
www.frobeck.com
www.leahtysse.com
TheCouchTomatoes
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I've owned a D800+ and 2 1X15 Subway cabs when they first came out with this Subway series and I can not be happier. I'm in a blues band that plays small clubs and a Black Sabbath Tribute band that sometimes plays big venues and They can crank as loud or be as subtle as you want. And loading/unloading are easy on my back. I have also driven an 810 mesa cab and it sounded fantastic.
Thank you for having a real bass player doing the demo. :)
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Nice - thanks for the comment, PDGood. Ben is a monster player! :)
@PDGood123
7 жыл бұрын
Yes he is and kudos to you both for this demo. I'm happy with anybody who is fairly skilled doing the demo. But so many of the demos for major brand products on youtube either have guitarists trying to play bass or not very skilled bass players, or guys who have a totally unique style so that you can't get any idea how the gear actually sounds in a real world environment. Thanks for putting a helpful demo online. (P.S. - I'm not ragging on young guys putting up demos for their own pleasure - we all start somewhere. But when companies are using demos to sell gear you'd think they would put it in the best light possible).
Really great sounding amp, player amazing too :D Good job!!
Finally, purchased today, this head is beyond amazing, thanks MESA.
@mesaboogie
5 жыл бұрын
Congrats, Alex! Happy New Year! :D So glad you're enjoying it and let us know if you have any questions.
@Alex69eyes
5 жыл бұрын
@@mesaboogie happy new year!!! And thanks again :-)
That adjustable high pass filter (along with attenuators for the tweeters on the cabs) is a really slick way to get a sealed cab sound from a ported cab. Some great additional features to what is already a killer amp.
Love that orange Warwick. Good vid...I've been thinking about all tube lately.....maybe not now.
Mine is coming today, look forward to it! :)
Really nice informative video, I like the use of multiple basses. very good bass player too.
@mesaboogie
6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, Gimmearig! Much appreciated.
I would be really great if Mesa could actually have someone playing Rock bass fingerstyle without overdrive and really digging in on the bass. I'm so tired of all these anemic players who barely pluck the strings, people playing with picks, and endless examples of slap bass on every Mesa bass video with not a single example of a strong clean solid booming Rock fingerstyle tone.
@rotorhead58d
4 жыл бұрын
Check out Andy Irvine for reviews. At the end he specifically addresses the issue you are having. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnqO0Ml7mpyqmrA.html
@Youknowwho666-f4x
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed so fucking annoying every video is someone slapping and i dont slap not my style or tone i would like to hear some finger style r&b or motown or somethin
@jamiecorbett2692
2 жыл бұрын
I'm right on with you. As well let's see some plucking the strings on the neck pickup location like some of us pluck.
@jeffwoods9404
4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@ampegloud
2 ай бұрын
Agreed
Finally jumped on the Mesa bandwagon with a D800+ and a Subway 112 and love it! Now my low notes have punch and definition from my 76 Fender Jazz with Nordstrand noiseless pickups. My Markbass gear was great for the last 5-6 years but now I've got the tone I was looking for and punch too.
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the purchase, Tolbert and welcome to the Boogie family! We hope the D800 and 1x12 exceeds your expectations and thanks for playing Mesa. :) Let us know if there's anything we can help you with.
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the kind words, +b mmh05! So glad it's working well and the newer features put it over the top for you. Hope it serves you great tone for many years! :)
THANK YOU
Got this head basically brand new on reverb this week. The best amp head I've ever played with, bar none. I've tried GK, aguilar, markbass, ampeg, and even darkglass. For clean tones and pinpoint tonal control/altering, there isn't a better amp on the market. I'll use my peavey 400 bass head for when I play overdrive. Or use my O/D pedal.
@SmokeBreakGaming
5 жыл бұрын
Also, I don't play slap. That's to all the slap comments here.
Nice to see Stephen King's still getting work.
If you run a Dark glass pedal on a D800+ would you run it in the effects loop or straight in the front before the preamp? I just recently purchased the D800+ and 400watt 15 cab very happy with the setup
6:30 very nice thumb bass!
So I had a 410 powerhouse cab and a subway+DI preamp powered by a type D crown power amp, is it close to D-800+ with the 410 cab? Thanks
This amp sounds great, I think I'll order one soon! I'm a bass player but I also play an E.guitar for fun. Can I plug my E.guitar to this amp running through the Subway Ultra-Lite - 1 x 12 cabinet ? (It doesn't have to sound great, I just want to make sure that I won't destroy anything).
Everything seems to be little toys for this big guy and it’s unreal those giant fingers can move so smooth on the tiny finger broad. And he’s good !
@Harry-cz1tv
Жыл бұрын
You’re a disgrace to the human condition and I hope your entire reality crumbles to the fate that is karma.
I'm saving some money for this amp... sooner or later... It will be mine!!!! best bass amp on the market...
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Alex! Appreciate the kind words and let us know when you get one. Rock on! :D
@abstractvisions
7 жыл бұрын
This is a great amp! Get the D-800+, totally worth it. I'm in love with mine. As a gigging musician I also love what great and powerful sound you can get from a 6 lbs amp A++
@davidsamson2012
7 жыл бұрын
Got mine today, wow! I love it
@davidsamson2012
7 жыл бұрын
Alex 69eyes I just got mine, it is simply amazing
@davidsamson2012
7 жыл бұрын
Just got one. It is simply amazing
Are the parametric eq points for the low and high mids basically the same as the 800 when set at noon?? Trying to decide between the 800 and 800+ and then the 115 and the 210! too much good stuff!
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, +juanticimo! Yes - the EQ points on the tone controls are essentially the same, except for the slight differences between the pots themselves. Otherwise, the designs are intended for everything to be essentially the same. Thanks for your interest and let us know if you have any further questions!
I'm thinking the Jazz Elite is soul match to the 800 plus cabs
What is the best cab pairing to buy? I've played through a 2X10 cab and !X15 cab on the big stuff made by Mesa, but I'm liking the sound of that Metro stuff for the light weight, but hoping the big and deep sound hasn't been compromised. Or is it better to run 2 15" cabs, or 2 2X10 cabs, not sure what to buy now.
@SmokeBreakGaming
5 жыл бұрын
Depends on your style. I play a lot of classic rock and country/two step. I have it paired with a peavey 2x15 with black widows, voicing turned up, and low mid gain turned a little up. It sounds fantastic and LOUD. But clear and loud.
is it a requirement for bass related videos to have the only person you know that can't play the bass, be the person doing the demo?
@firemarshal2629
Жыл бұрын
Boomer👆🏻
Love my new Subway D800+. Can I disconnect the speaker outputs while using the headphone jack?
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Yes! :)
600 watt Walkabout please. Pretty please. Sugar on top. LOVE my BOOGIE!!!
On the 4x10, I assume the casters can be quickly removed and reinstalled to get to and from the gig?
@mesaboogie
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Tortilla Man - The 4x10 cabinet comes equipped with ourTrack-Loc™ Removable Casters which will allow you to push a button and slide a caster in or out of its mounting plate. It's pretty easy. They stay in place while transporting but easily come off for the gig.
Some of is still use a rack. How about making us a rack mountable preamp instead of pedals only? I personally like what's in the Big Block 750's.
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jurdon - There are easy, adjustable 3rd party rackmount kits that can be purchased to retrofit the Subway Series amps into a rack format. A rackmount preamp is something we've discussed in the past and is a good idea, but at the moment, the pedalboard oriented preamp is what were offering. Good suggestion though and keep em coming! Thankas for your interest! :D
I know all of your amps sound great, but out of the Walkabout and Subway series, which tends to have a bit warmer of a tone/some vintage inclinations? It's hard to hear those nuances on a laptop, but I'm in the market for a smaller amp that would sit well in a blues, folk, country, and Americana mix while teaching at a university, but my nearest Mesa dealers are quite a bit away so I can't test drive the amps before buying.
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Mikey - Great question. The Walkabout, because of it's tube preamp, may have a SLIGHT edge on the Subway for tube warmth, BUT - the issue with thew Walkabout for SOME players is headroom. If you are gigging, sometimes the 300 watts with smaller cabs is not enough power to handle the gig and overdrive and dostortion from running out of power takes a sound from vintage cool/clipped to just plain distorted. On the flip side, the Subway is like a great channel strip for bass with a bit of Boogie voice (taken partially from the Walkabout and other well-appreciated Boogie bass amps) and it's also smooth and warm - with the warmth part being dialed in by your choice of Treble setting... It's a tough call on some levels but if you are a gigging bassist, we'd probably lean you toward the Subway because headroom is so important for bass tone in so many situations. Always better to have power in reserve if you need it than not have it when you do. And - the Subway can really get some great vintage tones as it doesn;t have a leaning toward Hi-Fi voicing but, instead, it's more neutral and designed to sound like the instrument you plug into it. Hope this helps and let us know what you decide. Thanks for your interest! :)
@mikeymacaque
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such an amazing response guys. I'll give it some thought and maybe drive to test them out in person, but you definitely steered me in a great direction so far!
Just $800 for this juggernaut???!!! Man, before checking the price in the net I was thinking it cost more than $1500. This amp is overkill for my needs right now, but its tempting, lol
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, BassForever! We're very excited to be able to offer these new lightweight, feature and tone full amps! :)
@nategin9009
6 жыл бұрын
My local music store and only local music store charges 1200 for this head
If it was 400 watts at 8ohms then can I just run this through the new subway 210 that's 600 watts?
@mesaboogie
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Eavn. No problem running the D800+ with the 2x10. Great question!
Anyway to get. Foot pedal/s with the purchase
The Value of my 1983 AMP BH420 gets even higher everyday when this all the big companies are building today. I Guarantee it blows the doors off anything MESA has built in the past 10 years
@rotorhead58d
4 жыл бұрын
How many amps and cab combinations have you tried from Mesa in the last ten years?
man, there isn’t a bass demo on youtube that has someone playing like the people looking to buy the amp. the last thing i’m looking to do on bass is play fingered, slap, or anything remotely close to jazz. where’s the thick, grindy, overdriven, played with a pick videos?
I wonder this amp sound with a fuzz pedal.
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Good!
Can i play at low volumes?
@mesaboogie
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! The Subway sounds great low and at gig volumes. Thanks for your interest!
Can I play this with Torpedo Live?
@alexdattel2757
6 жыл бұрын
Torpedo Live is only up to 100 watt so it is not adviced
That 2nd example on the orange bass (Lak?) sounds terrible.
@saintlotus93
5 жыл бұрын
Mike Lull bass, great instruments, but the action is set too low.
@tripppayne8777
5 жыл бұрын
Someone at Mesa who cares didn't preview this video before it was released. Agree. Horrible demonstration.
Can we get a demo without someone slapping the whole time?!!!!
@firemarshal2629
Жыл бұрын
Boomer👆🏻
@pCeLobster
26 күн бұрын
@@firemarshal2629 Slapping is boomer.
No demo of right hand two fingerstyle playing and that's actually what most bass playing is I would say
@FenderBassMan
5 жыл бұрын
What happened at 5:10 then?
@robertscoggin
5 жыл бұрын
@@FenderBassMan I stand corrected I missed that 28 seconds the first time
@FenderBassMan
5 жыл бұрын
@@robertscoggin Indeed. The fingerstyle portion was nearly invisible over the preponderance of slap 'n pop riffs and such!
When can we buy this beauty?
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Shipping ASAP, +Corbin! Already built with some in boxes and likely shipping tomorrow. Thanks for your interest! :D
@corbinbeltran7910
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for the fast reply! I recently had a problem with the prodigy head and unfortunately had to return it but I'm willing to give Mesa another try. I may go solid state this time though
@mesaboogie
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you had problems with the Prodigy. The Subway series has been remarkably reliable so if the tone from the D800 or D800+ is working for you, you'll be ready to rock!
@corbinbeltran7910
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you very much!
@powerofpeace7
7 жыл бұрын
sweetwater has them right now
I love the way they sound but the price and take care of the tubes is expensive
@jasonrickett561
3 жыл бұрын
Preamp tubes??????? In the GK? Bro! They’re cheap. Buy a set for an SVT or 400+ then let me know about price.....
@craigmoran893
3 жыл бұрын
This unit has no tubes.
@jasonrickett561
3 жыл бұрын
@@craigmoran893 the GK? Yes, it has preamp tubes.
@craigmoran893
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonrickett561 sure, thought you meant the 800+.
Looks great but the playing is so uninspiring it makes me not want to get it lol
8X10 cab
Is it me or did the MM Sterling sound distorted in an unpleasant way?
It sounds like a Fartathon
Hello!!! Distorting and flapping
Man the play style is just not it for this amp
Never trust a skinny bass man.
Mesa makes 8 ohm cabs but sell 4 ohm amps. So bust out that wallet and get ready to buy 2 speaker cabinets
@tomoncedead
6 жыл бұрын
Most bass amps have a 4 ohm minimum, with the exception being amps that can handle 2 ohms. I've literally never seen a bass amp that can't handle a 4 ohm load.
@tomoncedead
6 жыл бұрын
Super cool. It also gives you the option to cut the wattage down if you're running into say a small 112 cab that isn't going to handle having 500 watts pumped into it.
looks like the highpass filter is always active and cannot be turned off. might be good for people with little shitty speakers crammed into a box too small for them, but anyone who actually cares about sound and uses real speakers will find this "feature" to be nothing but a determent.
@francismckagan5422
4 жыл бұрын
An HPF is a great thing whatever your cab. Set at 30 hertz, you won't notice it's there but still is a plus to your tone.
@FingerinUrDaughter
4 жыл бұрын
@@francismckagan5422 if you dont notice everything below 30Hz being cut off, its because you use shit speakers. weather guitar or bass, the signal will almost always have a good deal of sound below 40hz which makes up a huge part of the sound.
@francismckagan5422
4 жыл бұрын
@@FingerinUrDaughter yeah right, SWR Goliath III speakers are shit, for sure. I'm pro bass player and everything you claim is the same bullshit we find on many forums where "experts" Of your kind spread their shit. I use filter since a while with best results.
@FingerinUrDaughter
4 жыл бұрын
@@francismckagan5422 seeing as they are just slapped into generic box barely big enough to hold them, yeah. they are. not to mention youre probably rocking some shit setup like 4x10 or 4x12, when youd get far better response if you took the 4 drivers out, and slapped a single 15 or 18" into the same box, and a single proper horn (protip: youll never see these in ANY bass amp. all they will give you is piezo) will give you far better mid and high range response. any "pro" player knows damn well that the crowd cant even HEAR your amps. they hear the PA unless youre playing tiny shows, in which case youre not a pro, youre an ametuer doing shows at bars. unless of course you had a non shit system, which they dont make anymore, so that would mean you had a box from the 80's or 90's, with modern drivers in it.
@francismckagan5422
4 жыл бұрын
@@FingerinUrDaughter Lol!! Go tell Marcus Miller an SWR 410 is shit then. Now, you seem to be one of those who beleive a 15 of 18 gies lower. Well, that just proves you know nothing at all!! Because THIS is complete bullshit. What makes the sound of a cab is its design, not it's speaker size. About what you claim about pro players is juste complete nonsense. A pro player plays whatever the venue looks like as long as he paid for it. And when you play at pro level you don't play shitty places. Did I ever said the audience was going to hear MY amp?? Hell no, because I know they won't. My setup is for me, period. Time to go to bed kid, you've spread enough shit here.
Why is it that every review has the Bassist playing fucking slap bass. I'm sick of it. Play the fucking Bass already...For real !! So what theur saying is that it only sounds like that if your a slap Bass player. Otherwise dont buy it.
@patrickwilliams6086
6 жыл бұрын
Right.. Cuz playing slap isn't playing the bass...
@FenderBassMan
5 жыл бұрын
You might like the fingerstyle playing at 5:10
This video is useless to me.... less slap demo, use a variety styles
@amnesiac1975
5 жыл бұрын
Agree
@pgpete
5 жыл бұрын
@@amnesiac1975 did you guys watch beyond the first 30 seconds ?
@FenderBassMan
5 жыл бұрын
What was the bassist doing at 5:10?
Sounds way better than the darkglass amps. The Darkglass sound awful. BTW. Dont ever pick a bass with your thumb 4:00. It sounds awful, weak and looks corny af too.
@firemarshal2629
Жыл бұрын
Plenty of bassists use their thump moron. Adds a different tone than using fingers. Get good boy
@firemarshal2629
Жыл бұрын
I swear bassists like you make us all look bad. The fact that you know nothing of thumb technique speaks volumes to how bad you are. Just put the instrument down and play something else. You are obviously trash.
@tim0391
Жыл бұрын
@@firemarshal2629just an observation - but you both sound like pricks
@blacklikethesun
9 ай бұрын
@@tim0391 lol.
@myaunthasasack
9 ай бұрын
@@tim0391are you the prick police or something 😂
im sorry the sounds not there to me everybody has transitioned to these light weight heads and cabs wheres the thundering bass etc its all this twangy nonsense i dont like where bass amps are going and mesa dumps all other bass amps and yhis is all they make now not for me
@sjcrawford
5 жыл бұрын
TRANSLATION: "I'm sorry, the sound's not there to me. Everybody has transitioned to these lightweight heads and cabs. Where's the thundering bass, etc? It's all this twangy nonsense. I don't like where bass amps are going, and Mesa dumps all other bass amps and this is all they make now. Not for me." MY REPLY: Definitely don't judge Class-D amps, and certainly not the D800/D800+ by this demo. In terms of relaying the unbelievably thunderous tonal capabilities of the D800+ (which I own), this clip is quite useless. I've owned many different heads and combos over the last 40 years (including three other Mesa's) and the D800+ is BY FAR the best head I've ever played. If you ever get the chance to play through one, you'll be instantly convinced.
@francismckagan5422
4 жыл бұрын
Go try one and you see. Claiming light weight heads is all this twangy nonsense is actually the real nonsense. It works and sounds perfectly like anything else and weights less.
Actually sound not good at all , people keep forgeting this ia bass guitar , not solo guitar,, need a punching bass sound... not a slappy tappy crap..