“I didn’t interrupt you, because I never stopped talking”. I’m using that one.

@steppenwolf3252

3 жыл бұрын

I loved this comment, Beth, and will use it at earliest opportunity!

@nicoleashley3906

3 жыл бұрын

@Alexis Sanchez because MRA arguments are nonsense and deserves no one's time.

@sharifsalem

3 жыл бұрын

@Alexis Sanchez I 100% agree with you and I have a great aversion to MRAs. This was such a pathetic example of disingenuousness discussion. Nomiki saying she was gonna throw up and then when you all were talking he said one at a time you just got nasty as if he was telling Emma to shut up when he didn’t.

@maxine2798

3 жыл бұрын

@@sharifsalem don’t forget you should have some good arguments ready and expect a robust exchange. If your first argument is there bring pension inequalities in other countries, it’s not stunning. If you go on from there to talk about conscription when the army when many men have made sure the rules mean women are allowed into frontline military roles. If there every was the terrible situation of all out war I am sure newer decisions would be made. He wasn’t listening to the questions and deliberately not answering them. Imagine the reaction if he has paused, thought about the question and answered that. Once the team knew what he was doing they went after his obvious flaws. That’s an effective strategy for a TY clip. How would you do it differently with the same caller?

@sharifsalem

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxine2798 “many men” does not equal the men conscripted.

I miss Michael losing his patience and laughing hysterically in the background while proceeding to try and throw Sam off by making him joke on the caller and ruin the entire debate process 😢

@Murmurrr

3 жыл бұрын

=(

@jellosapiens7261

3 жыл бұрын

I will always miss Michael cackling in the background :(

@ThaTruFily

3 жыл бұрын

Our favorite hyena!! Sorely missed...

@OwlsEyelash

3 жыл бұрын

Me too😪

@charlieortiz5399

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that was something else.

I come back to this every once in a while and my favorite bit is still "I haven't interrupted you because I never stopped talking."

@jefftist9625

Жыл бұрын

Same. 😂

@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper

22 күн бұрын

Did you come back 🎉

Fun fact. The term "toxic masculinity" emerged from a male group who recognized that hypermasculinity can be harmful to both society and the human experience for a male.

@irish3310

2 жыл бұрын

fun fact most people miss use the word "toxic masculinity" to be a toxic individual completely misunderstanding the real meaning of the term

@anthonymort5202

2 жыл бұрын

@@irish3310 what the real meaning of the term

@bigdaddyaen

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonymort5202 In a nutshell it says many traits we associate with masculinity and encourage boys and men to have are negative for individuals (the men themselves and others around them) and society as a whole. Some examples are not crying or showing emotion is considered masculine, but repressing your feelings we now know is harmful to their well-being. Being physically aggressive can be harmful to not just others but the person themself. And men being expected to initiate and push boundaries for sex while expecting women to push back contributes to rape culture, which for more info on that you'll have to wait for my next Ted Talk.

@ProperlyGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonymort5202 not sure of the official definition you could look that up, but when people talk avout toxic masculinity they are talking about traits we associate with being masculine that are bad. Things like, real men dont cry, real men are tough and aggressive, real men arent cool with gay folk, the idea a man must be hyper independent and cant lean on others every now and again. Just all usually bad behaviours that most men can admit are shitty traits and probably shouldnt be associated with the idea of being masculine. Also its not only men who promote toxic masculinity but even women, if youve ever made the mistake of opening up with a girl your dating and expressing your feelings or insecurities to her youll know tons of women out there due to how all of society (or at least the vast majority of it) have made these traits and ideas out to be what "real men" should live like will react shittily even to their own boyfriends who are being vulnerable with them. Its truly awful and is one of the leading reasons men commit more suicide, cause honestly its just not a good way to live.

@JuanRamirez-gr1lk

Жыл бұрын

@Mike Dalby such as what? how has the term been highjacked, it sounds pretty consistent to what i think it means and the traits and behaviors others attribute to "Toxic Masculinity" im curious as what you meant by "highjacked"

Funny. For a men’s rights activist he never brought up the societal and economic issues that actually effect gay and trans men. Strange.

@crystellik

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe he just doesn’t know they exist yet, I don’t know any that specifically effect trans and gay men and only them

@christosdiamantidis5852

3 жыл бұрын

economic? Could u use an example?(Im not trying to be mean but societal i get but economic..i dont really, could u use an example?)

@alandgomez5905

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point.

@alandgomez5905

3 жыл бұрын

@@crystellik Pregnancy issues and marriage rights. That was pretty easy lol.

@crystellik

3 жыл бұрын

@UCQ1JOVYfIyDTKCqc_E14UyQ as far as the general public is concerned gay couples can’t conceive children, and as far As the general public is concerned including me gay couples can already marry,

Men's rights are super important. It's something that every feminist cares about. Unfortunately MRA's are usually concern trolling conservative men who don't think sexism is real.

@beepbopboop7727

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. MRAs want women to have less rights, instead of legitmately helping men in areas where its needed.

@SmarkAngel

3 жыл бұрын

This is my beef. I care a great deal about the plight of young men, the social "disposability" men have. And my greatest allies when I have gone after it have been feminists

@captainvonkleist8323

3 жыл бұрын

It's a lovely thought, but somehow I doubt you've surveyed the entire population of feminists. LOL!

@TheCommanderFluffy

3 жыл бұрын

@@SmarkAngel right, and when you understand the issue that men have a social responsibility to take on more riskier jobs is tied to the social weight of being a woman in general it's almost incomparable. Raising the standard of what women go through is the best way to lower the risk factor men are (barely) expected to. Also, worker rights are probably a better avenue for making men's jobs safer.

@voidmonkey7907

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry if I’m arguing over semantics, but in general I don’t think it’s an issue of rights. It’s just, well issues. We men do have issue, a lot of which funny enough comes from toxic masculinity. “Man up, and ignore your inner pain”, that expectation is a part of toxic masculinity, and contributes to further toxic masculinity.

"That was a 30 minute conversation with a fedora." DEAD

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@Christopher f you get prostate cancer, you may be dead, because feminists ib Congress made sure to spend many times more money on breast cancer than prostate cancer

@Bos_Taurus

Ай бұрын

Yanis Varoufakis: "We do not sacrifice good people to the ultra-right by treating them like morons and by demonizing them. This is crucial. We have to win the battle of ideas by treating people with respect independently of whether they agree or even like us or not"

@jordanmalone2547

20 күн бұрын

@@Bos_Taurusso bold

This guy runs a self esteem hotline for school bullies

@whitehallavenue1752

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@GrimReader

Жыл бұрын

That’s a strong pitch for a coming of age movie. You doing anything with that idea?

@kmarcol1

Жыл бұрын

Explains his insecurities

@LL-wc4wn

10 ай бұрын

Who are the bullies? Men? Do you mean the majority of regular men, around the entire world, who are fighting for women to get trans people out of women's sports? Those are the men, the bullies, you are referring to right?

@rootcanal7188

10 ай бұрын

@@kmarcol1 Feminist will be insecure when men reject them en masse

This dude bases one entire point on the *likelihood* of men having prostate cancer and then argues *against the likelihood* of men receiving abuse vs women receiving abuse

@captainvonkleist8323

3 жыл бұрын

I'm against both kinds of abuse.

@woodyhitya

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif 19:18 you also claimed to be taken out of context there when you were quoted verbatim. You could admit to your hypocrisy and listen to the argument that toxic masculinity is the greatest threat to men, but you just talk over others without even being able to define ‘masculinity’

@majorlazor5058

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif Brother you are trying argue both ways to fit your narrative.

@andromidius

3 жыл бұрын

I mean sure. But MRA's won't really talk about how prostate cancer is a worry for trans women as well, or that breast cancer is a far more common issue for cis women to deal with (and for some trans men who haven't had surgery yet). Its like... maybe we should be advocating for better healthcare for everyone?

@shrisiva4016

3 жыл бұрын

@@andromidius Why are you all lives mattering right now?

is it misogynistic to say that nomi is very annoying?

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

Probably to some people. But I thought she was annoying. She did everything she could to try to trigger the caller but it failed.

@kaanmckenna7030

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not

@tikayscake2416

3 жыл бұрын

Not at all if you mean her timing and digs were off center, I’d agree

@calvinware7957

3 жыл бұрын

I like her and her work. Agree with her on a lot. I think it would be misogynistic to say she's annoying but I understand why her inflection can drive people crazy.

@idkdude111

3 жыл бұрын

She hella fine tho

It's impossible to have any kind of discussion with someone who doesn't acknowledge objective reality.

@ritzy9635

9 ай бұрын

How do you mean?

@maclectic

5 ай бұрын

@@ritzy9635 Basic science of evolution. If one gender grows larger and stronger is that because their predecessors have performed more or less work?

@ritzy9635

5 ай бұрын

@@maclectic So what exactly is the objective reality, in relation to this clip?

@maclectic

5 ай бұрын

@@ritzy9635 One gender has performed more work because they have more responsibilities. More responsibilities means they must have more rights.

@ritzy9635

5 ай бұрын

@@maclectic Presuming you're talking about the male gender?

The fact that he just straight up said "can I have this conversation with you one on one, Sam," without the women interfering, is WILD. Holy crap.

@dearrationals

Жыл бұрын

Likely because he wants to be able to blame women without any pushback from them lol. What a fool.

@Perfect_Bond

Жыл бұрын

The show is literally called The Majority Report with SAM SEDER, it has nothing to do with them being women, it has do with the fact that the dude was trying to debate 3 people at once when he called in to specifically debate Sam. He even said as much but all 3 hosts ignored him, what don't you understand?

@ravenswood118

Жыл бұрын

@@Perfect_Bond Thank you for mansplaining the name of the show, Patrick. Unfortunately, you're not nearly as smart as you think you are. Off you go.

@Perfect_Bond

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenswood118Sexist term. I actually don't consider myself to be that intelligent and don't care what sex you are. To characterize the MRA's desire to focus on Sam as the opposition in the debate isn't "WILD", it wouldn't have mattered whether it was 2 other men accompanying Sam on the show, the MRA came to debate Sam, yet spent most of the video attempting reply to 3 different people at once. Your reply didn't debunk anything I said and was just an attempt to be condescending.

@ravenswood118

Жыл бұрын

@@Perfect_Bond LOL ok MRA weirdo. Ciao!

the first time the guy says 'men's rights activist': nomi's face: just fucking kill me emma's face: I need popcorn for this

@samuelvimes943

3 жыл бұрын

he joined the chat a few days ago & his call did not disappoint....

@lachronic7821

3 жыл бұрын

LMFAO!!!!!

@jaredlind20

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t be surprised if nomiki went and got a alcoholic beverage. I know I would have lol

@nuggzs

3 жыл бұрын

Also, this happened right after they just covered the Dimmy Jore sexaully harassing Anna Kasparian story, so they were already primed

@noktilux4052

3 жыл бұрын

Is this how cool people at your high school see things?

If men visited the doctor more then deaths from prostate cancer would be lowered. Why aren't men visiting the doctor more???

@dynamicworlds1

3 жыл бұрын

Homophobia (as it involves something going up the butt which makes a lot of guys insecure) and other elements of toxic masculinity

@dynamicworlds1

3 жыл бұрын

@Hermann Hemholtz sorry to hear that (seriously, not just saying that), but I do hope you understand that we were talking about broad trends which affect men disproportionately enough to be statistically significant, not (admittedly genuinely tragic) anecdotes or condemnation of every single man. I hope you find justice and peace for what happened to you.

@connielingus8385

3 жыл бұрын

@@dynamicworlds1 It's toxic masculinity if you don't like a stranger sticking their fingers up your ass. You can't be serious.

@Chilltownify

3 жыл бұрын

Costs too much

@ProletariatPrince

3 жыл бұрын

@@connielingus8385 I dont like to have a little stick shoved in my cervix but hey Im legally required to if I want to get birth control even though it has literally nothing to do with birth control. Imagine if we legally forced men to get fingers shoved in their ass if they wanted to have basic medications.

I am a man, I grew up in a world where I was taught to be a man, you need to be physically tough, don't show emotion, sleep with many women etc etc etc If you deny that than you were either lucky or you are lying. Toxic masculinity exists, but if you are sitting there outraged, fearful and under attack and the pendulum swinging a little then it's most likely that you are indeed toxic, or at the very least insecure. Insecurity in men is rampant because of the very toxicity we have grown up in, it's that insecurity that has driven some of these men to become "hyper alpha's" and think they are under attack. real men are not insecure and realise that it's been toxic and welcome change.

@oldishandwoke-ish1181

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@thesingh588

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@Jared, if you get prostate cancer, you will learn that feminists made sure that many times more money is spent on breast cancer than prostate cancer. Then let's talk about "toxicity"

@jdoggbyc

Жыл бұрын

@@rootcanal7188 Oh seriously shut up and grow a pair and stop being a victim. Show me some evidence that feminists actively suppressed funding for prostate cancer? because in essence that is what you are saying

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@@jdoggbyc do you actually have a brain? If so, do your own research.

A bit disappointed this wasn't mentioned, although it requires some subject knowledge about prostate cancer knowledge, but the main reason why prostate cancer screening isn't routine is because it's not found to be effective. Any screening program has to be evaluated for accuracy (i.e. the rate of false positives and false negatives), the effects of a false outcome (e.g. excessive or invasive treatments), cost of screening and other risks. Importantly a screening should at the very least benefit people who do have the cancer, otherwise it's pointless, this means it's most effective in diseases where early detection has a significant beneficial effect on outcome, which often is not the case for prostate cancer which when detected early is often just monitored. None of this has anything to do with men or women, it applies to all forms of screening. Some screening programs are better (more beneficial), others are more harmful than beneficial, it depends on the disease and the screening methods.

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@did, try to grow a heart and a brain. Many times more money is spent on breast cancer than prostate cancer. Which is why there are men's rights activists

@johnathanbusse4679

Жыл бұрын

It may not be that way if all the funding for cancer research diddnt go overwhelmingly to breast cancer. The mortality rates are mirrored but a tiny percentage of funding goes to prostate cancer research. Feminists only want equality when it benefits them.

@maazkalim

4 ай бұрын

But the context is.. The caller evidently didn't genuinely care about prostate cancer's testing. It was a mere TP for him to get hurt by.

@thomasschrader8272

3 ай бұрын

That doesn't mean we shouldn't develop better technologies to detect prostate cancer early. In fact, I would argue it makes it much more important to do so. If current screening and technology isn't sufficient due to poor research funding, it means we need to invest more into it.

@Alex-0597

23 күн бұрын

​@@thomasschrader8272Okay??? That wasn't the caller's point. His point was that it's unfair women get breast cancer screenings under Obamacare but men don't get an equivalent, this proves that society is actually a matriarchy that's out to destroy men

i don’t think nomiki is great at arguing. she starts with “i have a theory about you”. i’m like how’s this going to go well as a convincing form of arguementing? - “i’ma start my retort by making unnecessary presumptions”. then she goes into an anecdotal thing, and then yells at the twit caller dude for not getting her name right. i understand getting worked up in general, but nomiki is a professional talk show host. i mean i probably 100% agree with her perspectives on gender and society (cuz i’m an old lefty from way back (jk, it’s a joke inside of a serious post)), but that is beside the point i’m commenting on here. sorry, wordy

@joshuaflores209

3 жыл бұрын

Well, this wasn’t a debate. The caller wanted to be able to spout off half-baked MRA talking points without pushback and thought, for whatever reason, calling into this show was the good place for that. It was never a debate, the caller wasn’t prepared and couldn’t think through their own points, and everyone on the other side has experienced this enough to know it wasn’t a debate it was just an excuse for the caller to try and soapbox.

@calvinware7957

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think Nomiki is in the wrong for being disgusted by a man talking about how hard it is for boys in school

@calvinware7957

3 жыл бұрын

Like I think her first question has merit like "where is this coming from. Why does this impact you what makes you drive to this" is a valid thing to ask but as soon as he says something like that it's like oh my God dude what

@Blank-41

3 жыл бұрын

She was the worst part of this whole exchange in my opinion. She seems to think the same way as this guy, but on the other side.

@VincentTroia

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaflores209 i’m commenting on nomiki and her bad job at questioning/argumentative skills. its not about the caller.

I disagree with the callers stance but shouting at him, talking over him, laughing at him and being childish was not a good look. How anyone made it beyond 12 mins of this train wreck is beyond me.

@x8sNaKe8x

3 жыл бұрын

The best part is they have a priority speaker system, meaning you can't hear the caller when they start talking. It was just miserable every time this guy tried to say something he got talked over and you couldn't hear him at all

@uncomfortabletruth5915

3 жыл бұрын

I can see if he was saying something substantive but his arguments were devoid of facts and reality. Any men’s issues are entirely over parental rights but beyond this men are entitled.

@tomives3298

3 жыл бұрын

That's just feminists for you.

@luciferlacroix4988

3 жыл бұрын

Not once did the man on the phone listen to what these people had to say. I have no sympathy why they would end up yelling. I’m only 5 minutes in

@luciferlacroix4988

3 жыл бұрын

@@x8sNaKe8x that’s because their mice are peeking and tuned up too high for when they get energetic. They need need to push em back and trust the mic will pick them up they have good equipment. That caller is on a shitty phone line of course it’s lower quality. This stuff is tough to put together calm down

Emma: "that doesn't shock me" exactly what i was thinking!

@cre448

2 жыл бұрын

Know I'm a bit late to your comment but just wanted to comment to you real quick that i loled at that part! And basically had had the same response/thought as you! 🤦🏻😂 oh boy, this caller had me frustrated and laughing at the same time somehow...? 🤔🤷🏻😅 I mean from the get go when the men rights activists couldn't describe *masculinity* you knew this was going to be a 💩 show, girl! 👏🏻🤣 Jesus. How much do you want a bet that after they hung up the caller looked over at his and said, " See, I told you it was going to be unfair *_right_* from the beginning, man!! But hey I at least showed them! 😏😎" Also last thing, him asking Sam at the end if he could have a "one on one" was just the cherry on the top 👌🏻 lolol.

@cre448

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for leaving such a long comment,btw. 😬🤦🏻😅

@AChickandaDuck

2 жыл бұрын

Emma’s always ready with a zinger! 🤣 Love her

@maazkalim

4 ай бұрын

Timestamp?

This is the mind trap I often get drawn into, I think people want to debate when all they really want to do is argue and rant. Love how everyone handled this!

@ravenmusic6392

Жыл бұрын

Yes of course because shouting at a caller with a different perspective as a privately educated, wealthy media figure is certainly the way to bring people on side, this wont galvanise people at all

@Captain058

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenmusic6392 I agree, this was not handled with anything close to empathy or intelligence, which actually made the caller's point.

@ravenmusic6392

Жыл бұрын

@@Captain058 Nomiki is probably significantly more privileged than the caller is, she went to multiple private schools and has many media connections (for Sam and Emma it's the same ). Its not so much the caller couldn't handle a women debating him, it was more just the smug tone taken by someone so utterly and completely out of touch that probably upset him. The "work harder, do better" is ironically a pretty good example of toxic masculinity when it comes to men dealing with their problems

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@Lastx, Try to grow a brain, and realize the many reasons that men's rights organizations exist.

@jgroth3906

Жыл бұрын

@@rootcanal7188 Misogyny mainly

I have to say (and I am only 30 seconds into this video) that I believe there is a place for mens rights activists if the action is targeted towards incarceration, parental rights and mental health issues. NOT 'we want to go back to the 50's'!

@emilianosintarias7337

3 жыл бұрын

Why not also rape, murder, assault, the draft, hiring discrimination, harassment, reproductive rights, domestic violence, homophobia disparity, and sentencing disparities? MRA is coming people, and it won't be right wing when it arrives

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

Don't let's ever forget to fight for the young infant sons of tomorrow who would face genital mutilation for no sound medical reason, against any possible consent, and based on the barbarism of a stupid religion.

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

@@emilianosintarias7337 Yes, exactly

@oneman5753

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment so far. What's amazing is this guy didn't think this through as much as a random commenter 😆

@Mike_C-79

3 жыл бұрын

@@bogusmcbogus2637 there is consent given to have your son circumcised. It's not a law, at least not in the US.

Emma was the most mature and made the best points in this video. Wish the video was just Emma vs the Activist dude. Sam was super condescending and too aggressive, and the girl on the bottom completely ruined the discussion near the end.

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

agreed 100%. Emma also injected levity into it at some points.

@jelatinosa

3 жыл бұрын

Ugh Nomiki was so annoying in this.

@thecourrrr

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah i think Nomiki was pretty much done the moment she realized the guy was their to just preach. But I agree, would have love if Emma got to speak up more.

@bananaz572171

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad there's a comment that said this.

@lustrazor44

3 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna agree with this one. I’ve met MRAs. They’re generally not bad people. They just don’t fully understand things. Being complete assholes to them does NOT help. Emma was the only rational person here. Whoever it was at the bottom just completely laughing at this guy was cringe. Men do face problems but it’s people like her at the bottom that don’t let, often misguided, men actually speak and try to have a discourse and maybe learn.

"Are you telling me you're a Men's Rights Activist and you can't even tell me what masculinity is?" LOL! I'm dead!

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@sandpiper f you get prostate cancer, you may be dead, because feminists ib Congress made sure to spend many times more money on breast cancer than prostate cancer

@MrChaosi

Жыл бұрын

that the problem.... man have no fucking idea what masculinity is in this day and age, the lefft give fucking answer only this shit we see here

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@@MrChaosi Exactly. This is one of the reasons there is a men's movement - so men can define masculinity on their own terms, and tell man hating feminists to buzz off. It's too bad the caller didn't say that

@ouwebrood497

Жыл бұрын

LOL: can feminists tell what feminity is? Half of them is aggressively against sex work and half of them pro sex work. Half of them is transphobe and half of them is trans-inclusive. Ideologies are just ways to increase your heartrate.

@sandpiperr

Жыл бұрын

@@ouwebrood497 Wow! It's almost as if no group is a monolith!

Hey guys, as an MD, I can say that elderly men are the ones who get prostate cancer. According to studies, it is an incidental post-mortem finding in the majority of elderly men. However it has such a long disease course, that it's not what kills them in most cases. We still screen for it because it's easy to do so and it still brings down the morbidity and mortality from it.

@echofoxtrot5786

Жыл бұрын

I see you are just another mangina that dismisses male death from prostate cancer

“I’m not interrupting you because I haven’t finished talking”. LOL. I’m stealing this.

@user-uy6uc5ey5q

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif He hadn't - you are an awful listener probably because you struggling with empathy for others and then projecting this into a victimhood complex. Sam's right if you can't define masculinity at a conceptual level then your not worth taking seriously.

@RoadkillMeatball

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif You spoke to them for nearly 30 minutes and said nothing at all. 😆

@britishrocklovingyank3491

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif I was a man 5 minutes ago. Your segment has turned me into a woman who only wants men in camps.

@michaelmoore7975

3 жыл бұрын

Women live longer than men because they don't live with a woman.

@britishrocklovingyank3491

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmoore7975 And how about that airline food? Why don't they make the pane out of the black box? Why drive in a parkway and park in a driveway?

This guy is a Jordan Peterson accolyte.

@TheFrostbite324

3 жыл бұрын

The women of Chaos are coming so clean your room and don’t be seduced by lipstick my fellow lobster.

@aheroictaxidriver3180

3 жыл бұрын

To catch a lobster, you have to think like a lobster. You have to BE a lobster!

@burtcocain1986

3 жыл бұрын

In a Jungian sense, bitches be triflin'

@stevewarwick2103

3 жыл бұрын

He's a beeedaaaa male.

@austin5944

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheFrostbite324 chaos dragons

I don't side with this guy but prostate exams are something you start at 40 not 60

@jilliancopeland6825

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and woman have breast screening, smear test, period problems and child birth oh and menapause lol. Our problems are not equal. He sounds like a kid whoever it is must be listening to Jordan peterson, he seems to be breeding a whole army of incels.

@cybervoid8442

2 жыл бұрын

Really, here i was wondering why my doctor didn't recommend a prostate exam to me. I am 25

@rebelimgs2807

2 жыл бұрын

@@cybervoid8442 if you ask nicely, he might oblige.

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@@cybervoid8442 the reason is that the medical establishment is far more concerned for women than for men

@spoton4711

Жыл бұрын

@@iangraham-white5717 preaching to the choir

This guy's "study" is known as the Milgram Experiment, which was not at all designed to answer the question he is claiming it did.

@cspo

2 жыл бұрын

...and has since been discredited due to methodological shortcomings.

@josiea.3855

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY I was so confused on where he got that from? 😭

@dengar96

5 ай бұрын

That's most studies that MRAs use to discredit feminism or even put down men that don't support them. The whole concept of "soy boys" is famously not based in reality and is used all the time by MRAs to put down men. They need another 100 years to really sort out their movement, something feminism has going for it since they been at this long before america existed.

The video is titled "Men's Rights Activist Calls In To Debate Sam" but I see three people on the screen having three different conversations with one person on the other line. It just results in a fractured and unprofessional presentation that's hard to listen to. I know I'm not the only person who has brought this up. Seriously consider re-structuring your show to have debate segments where it's just you and another person, or at least mute the co-hosts please.

@KRitzmanCounselor

3 жыл бұрын

The caller didn’t have good faith intentions when he said he wanted to debate. The cohosts were making genuine reactions to his disgusting statements. If he didn’t set out to be offensive and was serious about answering Sam’s questions, there would be no reactions. It could have been done more professionally, but the caller set the bar at the start for a disingenuous debate. The panel followed the in the same tone

@pb25193

3 жыл бұрын

@@KRitzmanCounselor I am a leftist and came here for the first time. I can tell you that this is completely unprofessional. Vaush does similar debates without having 2 Lackeys to intimidate the caller

@wolfboy420

3 жыл бұрын

@@KRitzmanCounselor What exactly was disgusting about what he said? I'd like an honest and precise answer, please.

@roselogan6589

3 жыл бұрын

@@KRitzmanCounselor idk I don’t feel like he brought up anything that could be characterized as disgusting, he had some bad/poorly informed takes but it’s not like he was saying women are inferior to men. I feel like the girl with the glasses was the one who lacked any good faith.

@ruinedmirage9722

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I can't remember any of the caller's talking points because he had one sentence (if that) to convey all context, evidence, and counterpoint, then it was completely deconstructed before the context could be established. Being generous, of course, sometimes there are bad takes

Nomi's approach is overly aggressive I'm sure it is therapeutic for her but it isn't helpful. She got so riled up she argued abused men shouldn't be cared for since as a whole men make more money.

@mikejohnson555

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. my male friend who was raped and then committed suicide, is a perfect example of real problems that exist in our society. Sexism sucks in either direction and I hate to say it but Naomi just came off as a sexist. We don't need people like that on either side of the argument.

@fuzzybutterballggg3788

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikejohnson555 I'm sorry to hear that man. I've had too many friends who are scared admit to it because of the toxic idea that it makes you appear weak. I honestly feel like she saw his defense of men abuse victims as somehow detracting from women so she was defensive. Its just a shame 😔

@mikejohnson555

3 жыл бұрын

@@fuzzybutterballggg3788 I was/am really active in the BLM protests. I bring this up because occasionally I would run into rapid anti white racists. They were far and few in between, not at all a normal or commonly held belief; point being sometimes people become the exact thing they are fighting against. Racism directed at black people their entire lives turns some of them into angry racists themselves. I have seen the exact same thing happen with feminism, a cause I overwhelmingly support intellectually and in principal. However it has to be talked about and acknowledged that there is toxic, sexist "feminist's" and bad ideas mixed in with good ones. Sexism is wrong, period; when directed at women or men because of the genitals they have. Yet too often men become nothing more than a point of mockery, and as men they are supposed to be tough and not complain. I shouldn't have to say it because it seems patronizing or too childish but "two wrongs don't make a right" equality goes both ways. Fighting sexism with anti male sexism is a real thing that needs to be acknowledged and fought against.

@MrUppmas

3 жыл бұрын

@@fuzzybutterballggg3788 Many feminists just don't really give two shits about men, and if they do it's from a 'feminist' lens, which sometimes is just absolutely useless. Blaming everything on toxic masculinity when that applies only to the minority of problems that men face, including abuse. Many men I know don't want to talk about the abuse they've received not because they fear appearing weak, but because they fear not being believed and worse, being called abusers themselves. In interpersonal relationships, I find it's more the women who go ''eww a man showing emotions'' when the man opens up about anxiety or other problems, while men to be either supportive or neutral on the issue.

@floepiejane

3 жыл бұрын

Great subthread.

All these guys complaining about people being against "toxic masculinity" seem to have forgotten the concept of adjectives. No one claims that masculinity is inherently toxic. They're against masculinity that is toxic. Much like no one thinks you should be selling toxic mushrooms in the grocery store. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be selling mushrooms. You shouldn't be selling TOXIC mushrooms.

@T-I-M-E.42

2 жыл бұрын

NO, it means all mushrooms are bad, and don't get nuggies or video games until they have their vegetables!

@yourex-wife4259

2 жыл бұрын

In simple terms: If were talking about black dogs, that doesn't say all dogs are black.

@thetornadocrusader968

2 жыл бұрын

But it's insinuating that masculinity is somehow toxic

@randomjunk1977

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetornadocrusader968 only if you don't understand the concept of adjectives

@yourex-wife4259

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetornadocrusader968 Bad Guys insinuates that guys are somehow bad. It should be 'antagonist outside of the general populace of men who happen to be bad'

Completely agree with Sam and Emma.. Nomiki was particularly off putting and overblown.

@ed1050

Жыл бұрын

Nomiki sucks, glad that she is probably not coming to the show after her embarrassing spoiling campaign at district 59

@timcampbell3498

Жыл бұрын

The dipstick was out of the gate dismissively referring to the female host and guest host , he got what he deserved. I have watched her disembowel fox hosts , herd to take this guy seriously when he can’t define masculinity, google it 😵‍💫

@FilthyPhilify

Жыл бұрын

I would go out on a limb and stipulate she probably had more than her fair share of these conversations. He calls in to a show that she's on, ignores her, basically tells her to shut up (most likely because he's afraid to actually debate her) and completely dismisses her. She had all the right to go after him.

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@Nick, it you get prostate cancer, you will learn that feminists made sure that many times more government funds are spent on breast cancer than prostate cancer

@parthn4135

Жыл бұрын

@@FilthyPhilify he had no idea who she was...lol

Dude had all of his talking points, but couldn't think beyond the crap he read on 4chan or wherever. So sad.

@davidbright6790

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif you wouldn't even answer a basic fucking question. Sam asked you the same question a dozen times and you kept making up lies and obfuscating. You didn't deserve the time you got. Seriously, they were being kind.

@MichaelAronson

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif You didn't have any real arguments. Pensions in other countries isn't an argument. You're just scared of women.

@jaytee9

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelAronson that is a terrible way to spell 마이크르.

@MatthewFutrell

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif you may have seen it as you were being cut off, I saw it as you trying to cut off all three people and Bogart the mic. Also if you answered every question then let's recap on your answer to this question as you gave it on the show: What is the definition of masculinity?

@MichaelAronson

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaytee9 The characters have Chinese (한자) counterparts, like actual Korean names.

yikes, this was the worst. solely focused on dunking on the guy. Nokomi played like an MRA stereotype just getting angry and storming off. dusting off "why do you care about these issues" like what? they hovered around making their points but just mocking him 3 on 1. idk love ya guys but this was a poor showing. I can only see MRA's being further convinced of themselves

@WhenItsHalfPastFive

3 жыл бұрын

Destiny troll

@kevinjohnanand

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhenItsHalfPastFive everything they said was true. Sam and co were extremely bad faith.

@myhatelect

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhenItsHalfPastFive who?

@WhenItsHalfPastFive

3 жыл бұрын

@@myhatelect stop playing bro, you came here because of Destiny

@Ivan-qf4mt

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhenItsHalfPastFive everyone that disagreed is a Destiny troll? You know, maybe, just maybe there was a problem in their interaction.

EMMA! when you said "gender fluid" I laughed so hard, had to rewind several times to pay attention to what followed. THANKS. i don't laugh much anymore.

@wizardoffrobozz

2 жыл бұрын

@@AChickandaDuck IKR! Emma's one of our quick-minded brilliant people.

@toltech1624

Жыл бұрын

of course you did.

@batfreeze56

Жыл бұрын

As someone who's actually gender fluid, i found it kind of offensive that she made my identity into an insult.

@SlyNine

3 ай бұрын

Yea, she made the dumbest argument ever. It was funny.

Oh, this was a cringe to listen to and not because of the caller. Why can't you just listen to people? (I am of the left.)

@JohnnyZenith

5 ай бұрын

They were deplorable. I don't want to listen to people treat a caller this way.

Oh and if the guy is already losing an argument, wouldn't it be more effective to let him answer the questions until he realizes he's cornered? I disagree with most of what he said but why pile on him, ask a bunch of questions then shout over him before he can finish his answer? Nomiki was kinda hard to listen to, if I'm honest.

@Mike_C-79

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda hard?

@alexfimbrez

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with the Nomiki part, I haven't seen anything of hers outside the opinions that she expressed in the video and she came off as a white lib woman, I mean even her expressions, laughing, the throw up comment, it gave a very unprofessional look, at least Sam refrained from doing that kind of remarks.

@TheKennyboy92

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah she was really embarrassing

@Assortment54321

3 жыл бұрын

All of them were just awful on the guy. They barely let him speak.

@TheGreatMoonFrog

3 жыл бұрын

She was taking things personally.

When you control for all the factors that prove you are right, you will see I am right.

@nomsashezi9775

3 жыл бұрын

This!!!!! About sums up All of social media “debates “

@sharifsalem

3 жыл бұрын

Which is what Sam insisted on doing from the get go, he narrowed the bandwidth every time the guy spoke to something Sam felt he could win in rather than what the guy called in to discuss

@gattaca5911

3 жыл бұрын

@@sharifsalem dum dum had no data/studies for the USA let alone "around the world"..."if I can be vague without having to prove anything...then you will see I'm right"

@calhackit9806

3 жыл бұрын

@@gattaca5911 okay go ahead, explain something that makes sense and i'll accept the lack of studies.

@ethanfenderson7023

3 жыл бұрын

Right like this looks like every time a kid tried to talk to the cool kids that assumed they were correct because of there standards. And just dog pile on the kid because it's his first day.

Women hit men far more than men hit women. The fact sam wants to bring that up is laughable. But cops are far less likely to arrest a woman for hitting a man. Because "a man should be able to handle it". theres an example of toxic masculinity that gives women privaledge.

@DavidHeffron78

2 жыл бұрын

Quick question: where did you find this study?

Men do get abused more than women in relationships. Women do not make less than men, the inequality is in the type of jobs. Ie, two call center works will be paid the same regardless of gender, the issue is that more men are in management positions than women.

I find it weird that they understand there are issues with the way men are treated but they laugh at the idea of someone standing up to the injustices.

@shrisiva4016

3 жыл бұрын

They definitely have some biases

@floepiejane

3 жыл бұрын

@@shrisiva4016 very sadly :(

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

I find it unconscionable more than weird.

@Alice-df5lu

3 жыл бұрын

the guy doesn't even understand what the injustices are. he framed it as though women aren't oppressed and lightly suggested that women were the oppressors (re: boys are being told in school that boy/men are bad). had he come in and said, for example, "women and men are both hurt by society not taking domestic abuse seriously, but i personally want to focus and talk about how it hurts men" THAT would be taken seriously and been a whole different conversation. instead he alleges some wild shit like that men are most often the victims of domestic abuse. you can't debate or have a conversation with someone that far outside of reality.

@floepiejane

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alice-df5lu Did he say that? And what's the connection between women oppressors and school? No men in schools? Finally, I agree with your take on a whole different conversation, but why can't he be taken seriously out of general respect?

I met someone like this IRL... It's like talking to a conspiracy nut. Goalposts moving everywhere, cherry picked statistics, and zero empathy or self awareness.

@OmegaShenronDragon

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly social media has boatloads of those

@Fuctmentality

3 жыл бұрын

I've met a lot of people like this irl

@Seabas989

3 жыл бұрын

Worse when it's a long-time friend.

@alicankunta

3 жыл бұрын

Been there. Had to cut ties with the guy forever. Underneath all the blabbering and the bullshit statistics there lies a straight up sad misogynist.

@machida58

3 жыл бұрын

@@alicankunta Are you married?

Women actually do hit men more. they just don't do as much damage.

@echofoxtrot5786

Жыл бұрын

Not true. Women are more likely to use weapons

what a nasty set of people on this show totally putting words in his mouth, the way the girls spoke to him in not surprised that he didn't want to speak to them especially with the personal attack at the end. Why these feminist can't see that men's rights doesn't mean take rights of women. there are issues of child custody and devor

this wasn't the best showing of sam

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

He peaked when he was Fenton

@davantejohnson5980

3 жыл бұрын

And? He’s still right

@lildipper3423

3 жыл бұрын

@@davantejohnson5980 no he isnt right the man barely had a chance to make his stance the Nomiki just started being a horrible person instead of trying to understand someones view point

@thedude3288

3 жыл бұрын

@@davantejohnson5980 hard to claim that youre "right" when we dont even know what the other guy is saying since youre shouting over him and laughing every time he opens his mouth

@Fuctmentality

3 жыл бұрын

@@lildipper3423 So how is he not right?

What are the chances he's also a Libertarian?

@Selcryn

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not taking that bet. Guarantee that he's a Libertarian aka An-Cap.

@dynamicworlds1

3 жыл бұрын

We're talking about self-identifying as the US usage of the term. It's high. It's _very_ high.

@hellofaname

3 жыл бұрын

@@Selcryn he probably subscribes to Steven Crowder and Ben Shapiro

@quantize

3 жыл бұрын

On his way to becoming a 'sovereign citizen'. a total prawn head

@networkedperson

3 жыл бұрын

More than libertarian, he's simply just a white american.

Yeah Sam and co. really couldn’t even handle talking to this dude. They just got triggered and barely anything intelligible was said.

Nomiki always finds a way to make a good argument sound bad.

@DonnieLouis

Жыл бұрын

She’s right though 🤷‍♂️

@principleshipcoleoid8095

Жыл бұрын

Wait.. The "women die older therefore women should get pensions earlier than men" one?

@JV-uo7zz

Жыл бұрын

​@@principleshipcoleoid8095 that was Emma being dumb

@haza123b4

Жыл бұрын

@@principleshipcoleoid8095 *You are trying to use logic in a Majority Report comment section.*

@rosslytle5700

7 ай бұрын

This is my first time seeing her on the show, and I’ve gotta say, I’m glad I found it after she apparently left. This isn’t a Majority Report I’d subscribe to. I’m sure this guy has done plenty of stuff in his “activism” to merit the dismissal and disrespect he got in this argument, but it isn’t self-evident in the 30 min clip like it has been the other times I’ve seen Majority Report debates take this sort of turn. Playing the peanut gallery through most of the conversation and then implying the MRA dummy is being misogynistic for trying to debate primarily Sam? Ffs, declaring herself a “professional feminist” and then proceeding to make a Men’s Rights spokesman look tactful by comparison? If the point is some of these Men’s Rights claims to injustice are at least partially valid - but then lose that validity contextualized against rights disparities of basically every other class of people - what good would it possibly accomplish to invalidate and mock the feelings of the young men the Men’s Rights movement feeds on?

Bruh, let the man talk

Sam repeated exactly what he said about young boys writing him, and he claims Sam is being dishonest. This guy is such a joke.

@greg6500

3 жыл бұрын

"Young boys keep writing to me" He probably shouldn't admit that to too many people.

@pfeiferwithap

3 жыл бұрын

@@greg6500 lmfao that was my first thought too 😂

@greg6500

3 жыл бұрын

@@pfeiferwithap How many times did he say "Men and Boys"? seriously it was super creepy.

@SDwilly

3 жыл бұрын

he repeated it in a clear attempt to discredit and trivialize it.

@creshiell

3 жыл бұрын

@@SDwilly yes obliviously, that's what you do when someone says something false

men can get breast cancer so there's that. my high school social studies teacher talked about men not living as long being the result of men treating not going to the doctor for a long time as a point of pride. this teacher was a man in case anyone was curious

At the end of the day: men are discriminated against in family court.* If the percentage was of: any minority, women, homosexuals etc every one of you would be flipping out burning Wendy's to the ground. This is not only in USA but Western world. This gives women more rights than men. Men make more money, as on average* they're better workers. Period. Some exceptions but it's the norm and almost exactly what the civil/family court mimics.* The takeaway should be women's suffrage in question* or we need to ignore societal things and make sure to see near equal outcomes. There's more problems (lasting/long term) with kids removing the father's Thsn with mkthers. All psychology besides reetatds are in agreement here, yet we encourage this societally. The majority* of divorces splits etc I've seen are women being unreasonable. Period. They use a predetermined favorable treatment to destroy families and screw up kids ad nauseam. There's no other format for male advocacy, sorry. Caller was almost as bad as the dim witted interrupting child of a grift host.

EEW Sam and cast acting like child bullies instead of talking.

@mikegranberryii

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree

@fraydizs7302

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah when "Nokimi" started to personally attack him just to make him mad that didn't sit well with me.

@thomasmackelly7685

3 жыл бұрын

They were talking. Not coddling, maybe you were expecting that?

@cjvvaliente

3 жыл бұрын

Boohoo. Cope

@anax3672

3 жыл бұрын

They acted the way Crowder handled the debate with Sam Seder.

I just discovered you through H3 and I am a new fan!

@nicksoley

3 жыл бұрын

Just know that NATO is a good thing, not a bad thing.

@ivybrooks7963

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicksoley lol, thanks. I’m not new to politics, I just haven’t heard of this channel. The only political creator I love on here is Some More News. Do you have any other suggestions?

@abirouertani3905

3 жыл бұрын

@@ivybrooks7963 same lol

@emberflame8396

3 жыл бұрын

@@ivybrooks7963 hasanabi is great. He takes a more casual and entertaining approach but he knows his stuff and explains political issues really well

@Juiceboy3005

3 жыл бұрын

@@ivybrooks7963 Watch Secular Talk, Humanist Report, and Rational National. These guys are amazing especially Kyle from Secular Talk

LMAO! I guess the incels and MRA's found this video.

@ravenmusic6392

Жыл бұрын

This is dangerously arrogant. Most of what the caller said is absolutely uncontroversial in circles with young men in them, I know this as someone who is not an MRA and attends a mainstream university. Nomikis outburst about "privilege" is just so hollow and pathetic, shes more privileged than 99% of men, being privately educated and a huge media figure. None of the arguments the hosts used really proved men have it easy, I didn't hear anything about suicide intervention care or education in the video, I dont think most young men would be persuaded by this. Most people I've shows this video to have been pretty disgusted by this, and I hang out In British leftist circles for some context

@acreativename2781

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenmusic6392 Yes yes, whatever you say dude. Yes SHE is pathetic, totally dude.

@ravenmusic6392

Жыл бұрын

@@acreativename2781 I didn't say "she" is pathetic, I said someone who is so privileged telling someone else to "work harder and do better" when they know nothing about them is pathetic

@acreativename2781

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenmusic6392 Calling a woman privileged hahaha, yeah we don't need to know anything else about you, have a nice day. And they don't need to know the reason *why* they're Ince- oh sorry "mens rights activists" :D

@harrycooper5231

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenmusic6392 Men have become this big of snowflakes? It certainly explains why some men support a giant snowflake like Trump so religiously, he exemplifies their values..

Sam just talked over the dude the whole time so I don't even know what he was saying

@haza123b4

Жыл бұрын

*You are trying to use logic in a Majority Report comment section.*

"Im not interupting you because I haven't stopped talking" - lmao.

@davidbright6790

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif poor little victim... ❄️😭❄️😭❄️😭❄️😭❄️😭

@davidbright6790

3 жыл бұрын

@@hallodunase stop being a victim. He repeatedly ignored questions and also talked over others. It was ABSURD how incapable he was of respecting others and answering their questions.

@hallodunase

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidbright6790 how am I being a victim? You dragging me into this just goes to show that you're blindly attacking anyone. I just pointed out that he was interrupted. I don't agree with him on his stance but I do feel its difficult to listen to Sam debate because he is shouting so much.

@majorlazor5058

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a great quote

@chaitanya928

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidbright6790 this is what toxic masculinity is. You should fr check it out and correct it, it's because of people like you, the world is the way it is. The hosts were WAY more than just rude. So don't talk this bs saying he was interrupting. Don't be a hypocrite. Grow up.

"I did say Emma could come." Even richer. I'm sure she's grateful.

@mdc4runner

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Emma can get it

@wvu05

3 жыл бұрын

Is it wrong that when I first saw this comment as it was the first comment when I opened the video, I thought it was talking about a different kind of interaction between men and women?

@poops9o9

3 жыл бұрын

Comment thirst trap! 😂

@MikeWalkerSociologist

3 жыл бұрын

This guy could get a job as a wacky inflatable tube man because he is so good at flailing.

@Phantom_of_Black

3 жыл бұрын

Something tells me she can't come with him. Pun very much intended.

the number of people on the right who claim, "we dont know," when experts do know, and typically have their data publiched in case you want to take the time to go through it.

@tonyonaperky2128

Жыл бұрын

Problem is that data and research is heavily in female favor

@sfletch3042

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyonaperky2128 How? Where did you get that from? What info or evidence supports that claim?

@principleshipcoleoid8095

Жыл бұрын

Definitions of rape exclude most female perputrator and most male victims. At least the CDCs and the LAW of USA.

@fc1280

Жыл бұрын

It is easy for the Left to have data when it isn’t the side always getting censored. It doesn’t mean the data is right.

These MRA's never understand that feminism seeks to solve almost literally all of the issues they talk about. All these issues with "men's rights" are actually issues with patriarchal society and toxic masculinity. If we could work on those things, we'd find that the issues MRAs care about would significantly decrease in prevalence too! Those dudes make me sad because they're not technically wrong... there _are_ issues with how society treats men. Unfortunately, they can't see the bigger picture and thus their absurd "solutions" don't make any sense. (idk. or maybe they're just selfish and only care about their own rights lol)

@Colonelloki

Жыл бұрын

So I was never an MRA, but I used to say "eh they have some points" because there has been, and continues to be an active smear campaign against feminism as a whole. Basically the caricature of the "radical feminist" who is loud, rude, and wants women to be superior, not just equal. I actually bought into these type of people actually existing for a while, largely because of people taking women like Chanty Binx horribly out of context and making them seem rude and dismissive. That's why I, for a while, defined myself as an "egalitarian" rather than a feminist, a nuance that is entirely meaningless as they're one and the same. But that's the goal, convert who you can and fracture the rest by making men who want equality think that there are feminists who don't care at all about the few double standards that men face, and that they are the ones that are gaining all of the influence. Luckily, in no small part thanks to my wife, I finally realized that was all a lie and that feminism wants to address those issues, and that they are at the heart caused by toxic masculinity and the perpetuation of the patriarchy. Might have taken me far longer to realize I was a fool who had the wool pulled over my eyes, and this guy seems like one of the ones who fell for the lie hard. No one is beyond saving, but it's going to take someone who cares about him and has patience, which honestly if he had that he probably wouldn't be where he is.

@Derplord_27

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for bringing your opinion. Sadly I disagree, but I would love to have a civil discussion about this matter as an MRA and would be happy to find out your perspective, and maybe, you can see mine.

@nickandres7829

Жыл бұрын

@@Derplord_27Other than parental custody, which is definitely an an area that could strongly benefit from a far more objective approach to assessing the best situation for the children, what are some areas where men's rights are being violated?

@Derplord_27

Жыл бұрын

@@nickandres7829 well, I’m glad you asked. Now, it is a very touchy subject but false rape cases can ruin lives. I am absolutely not saying that all rape cases are fake or they should not be treated with the respect they deserve, what I am saying is that if a man gets accused of rape and he is innocent, that man would forever be registered as a sex offender and every dream or aspiration he wanted would be gone. Or even if he is found innocent, it still permanently leaves a mark. We have had examples like this with Amber Heard vs Jonny Depp but he still gets respect because it was so very very obvious, but it isn’t always

@Derplord_27

Жыл бұрын

Point is, women have the ability to destroy careers, hell, people, if they feel like they want to

MRA doesn't realize he's giving some feminist talking points

@mgaus

3 жыл бұрын

That's part of the point. If you watch the Red Pill movie, it was made by a woman who used to call herself a feminist. Many of the founders of the equality movement saw the disparities between men and women as a two sided door to fix.

@kaleetean458

3 жыл бұрын

@@mgaus MRA folks just need to actually understand what feminism is and understand reality. Alas, they're more focused on being angry at women than actually uplifting everyone.

@CodyMe

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaleetean458 No, they are busy basing their opinion of the actions and works of prominent Feminists like Mary Koss and Dworkin. Nice projection though.

@kaleetean458

3 жыл бұрын

@@CodyMe See? Just two women whose opinions they don't like driving them to complain on the internet. Rather than ending war, combating capitalism, promoting equality for all genders, fighting for housing justice, getting money out of politics, etc

@CodyMe

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaleetean458 Seems like the exact opposite occurred in this video.

Sam: "My gut reaction? I think you're a lunatic." Okay, I'm locked in for the whole video.

@serafinhikes

3 жыл бұрын

So true 🤣

@burningmisery

3 жыл бұрын

And Sam's gut feeling was right.

@austin5944

3 жыл бұрын

This gives me the vibes of the old debates with libertarians under the Obama administration

@ProletariatPrince

3 жыл бұрын

@@austin5944 The good old days.

@austin5944

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProletariatPrince I love those videos so much

It's disingenuous to imply that being pro MRA necessitates being anti feminism. Both sexes have their own different issues.

"tell you what Emma you can come too" I am SCREAMING

@ravenmusic6392

Жыл бұрын

Yes haha he wanted to get away from Nokomis screeching and abuse and speak with two reasonable people haha how funny

@haza123b4

Жыл бұрын

​@@ravenmusic6392 *You are trying to use logic in a Majority Report comment section.*

Wish Michael was here to chime in with a dave rubin impression.

@edwinsoto6932

3 жыл бұрын

Or as someone else said, as Right-wing Mandela talking about men's rights.

@andromidius

3 жыл бұрын

The thing with this is you could just play an old clip of Michael's reactions and comments and it would fit the tone perfectly. The arguments are still exactly the same and still lack any credibility. Which is annoying because there are some genuine issues men face - MRA's just never bring them up. Things like toxic masculinity, putting too much pressure on teenage boys to conform to the masculine ideals, social shaming of men who want to do care based occupations, etc etc. But its never brought up because the MRA community is in denial about it. They can't show any weakness, even if having vulnerability is perfectly valid and healthy. Because of toxic masculinity.

@KorAnos1

3 жыл бұрын

"I don't wanna define masculinity, I just wanna talk about ideas!"

@subversivelysurreal3645

3 жыл бұрын

I just wish that he was here-whatever would decide to say !!

@machestro7

3 жыл бұрын

I loved his Peterson impression too.

Sam: “First thought? I think you’re a lunatic.” Emma, the biggest smile like she’s a little kid on Christmas morning

@albaheadtheovertross

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif lmaooo

@davidbright6790

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif you're a civilised vacuous amoeba.. Get a new hobby

@docmalthus

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif My first thought was 'This guy was on the wrong side of a bad divorce.' I have no doubt that this is the prime source of MRA,s.

@tomg3285

3 жыл бұрын

@@hfyf7eufehfeufeifeifeif maybe this doesn't help with the discussion but you are a lunatic get a hobby dude you're wasting your f****** life

@aspookyfox

3 жыл бұрын

He’s probably an incel.

There was no possibility of any reasoned discussion. I don't know if the caller had legit points or not. The level of hostility against the caller made the three Majority Reports hosts look very very bad.

The shock experiments he’s talking about are the Stanley Milgram obedience/authority experiments in the early 60’s.

This should have just been Sam and Emma talking to the guy.

@monetcache

2 жыл бұрын

if anything sam shouldve sat this one out there's nothing like watching walking jokes like this caller get rolled by the half of the population they tend to ignore

@UberTheRandom

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, chick on the bottom was a joke. Emma and Sam did great.

@monetcache

2 жыл бұрын

@@UberTheRandom callers like this are sad human beings and the last thing i care about is in depth discussion on his world views "chick on the bottom" by far did the best job digging into the guy

@ravenmusic6392

Жыл бұрын

@@monetcache Notice that absolutely no one outside of they shows viewer base agrees with you. She acted like a privileged high school bully over a serious issue because she didn't have a single good argument

@monetcache

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenmusic6392 you made up that first part lmao unless you personally went and polled people on the street about my comment but either way callers like that loser are so unserious that unless they were going to bully him and mess around with him there would really be no reason to continue the call

This guy's response to literally every real question. "That's not true, and there's studies, I just can't reference or link any, ever." This guy is obviously both extremely bias and extremely wrong on the facts.

@KorAnos1

3 жыл бұрын

"There's studies, but also these things can't be defined."

@connorp3030

3 жыл бұрын

If you listened, what he actually said is "studies are mixed", which is true, then was interrupted, what he was going to go on to say is that the largest meta analysis on domestic abuse, the partner abuse state of knowledge project, finds that 43% of domestic violence victims are male, and 53% are female. That's not a huge difference is it? Which was sams claim

@captainvonkleist8323

3 жыл бұрын

@@connorp3030 It's impossible to tell. There's known reporting bias. If you ask the question : have you been physically abused? You'll get a different answer than : have you been slapped or hit? AFAIK, if you ask the first kind of question, you find that women are more likely the victim of domestic abuse, but if you ask the second kind of question, you find that men are more likely to be the victim of domestic abuse. I you just look at conviction rates, or arrest rates, you'll get other answers, which capture biases in the justice system. So, men are more likely to be physically assaulted, but less likely to report it as physical abuse. These questions that challenge men's masculinity (and women's femininity), routinely generate lies among the general population, for whatever reason. The most egregious example I've seen is a survey on promiscuity that found men had on average 7 times more sex partners than women. Mathematically speaking, it's just not possible - the men were wildly overstating (and the women were wildly understating). Long story short - people lie about sex, relentlessly. Don't believe what they say in public. And no, it's not just MRA that think men are prone to macho posturing, and women are prone to playing the dainty lady. Within psychology what I'm talking about is a well known finding, and I find it irresponsible to use a lot of these stats without describing this context. Personally, I learned about this stuff in psych class almost 20 years ago, so I'm a little more skeptical, and I know the margin of error is large, so your 43%-53% quote doesn't seem determinative. You are correct that typically the difference in rates measured aren't that big. From the MRA perspective, that kind of equality is indicting of media coverage of domestic abuse, which overwhelmingly targets male abusers and female victims, of police response to domestic abuse, in which men get arrested at higher rates than women, and of attitudes in general (men are more likely to be suspected of domestic abuse), etc. In other words, you've noticed that women are just as likely to be violent as men, so what's with the institutional and cultural sexism, and why do feminists seem so frequently to be making the situation worse?

Been binge watching Sam’s old live-debates. So entertaining

@iosolofede

8 ай бұрын

I'm doing that now. Woo boy!

Men's rights groups sit around agreeing with each other about how their spouses don't deserve child maintenance. Strange how all their spouses have gambling and drug issues since the relationship has ceased.

@ssseeeaaa

Жыл бұрын

2 time divorce court victims right there 🤣

@principleshipcoleoid8095

Жыл бұрын

Male MRAs tend to marry drug addicts and gamblers? WHAT

ive always thought that society's expectation that "real men dont cry" was part of the reason for toxic masculinity. i think if men felt more comfortable being vulnerable, the world would be a better place.

@jaydamalley3398

3 жыл бұрын

Then tell women to be attracted to men who express their vulnerability. ... Yeah, not gonna happen.

@gofoucaultspendulumyoursel3496

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaydamalley3398 youre hanging around the wrong women if thats all you see. you ever watch someone like russell brand? he's able to be vulnerable and women love him.

@jaydamalley3398

3 жыл бұрын

@@gofoucaultspendulumyoursel3496 He's a well-known comedian. He has a level of status women are drawn to - status equals potential provider. And he has a certain charm that women seem to be drawn to, as well. So for someone like that to display his vulnerabilities is not a turn-off. For men in general, that does not go up. And I'm not using my own anecdotal experiences with women to make my point. It is true of women in general. Men at the top have the majority of all the sex, and they don't get that by being vulnerable.

@michelleamatulle6378

3 жыл бұрын

Feminists have always been fighting for men to be freed from the social constructs of patriarchy such as the need to always tough and not vulnerable. Women do not like hyper masculine alpha men. Trust me, we don’t. And if we do, we probably have some daddy issues.

@jaydamalley3398

3 жыл бұрын

@@michelleamatulle6378 "social construct of patriarchy", "the need to always be tough and not vulnerable" It's called biology and sexual selection, etc. Keep your ideology out of it. And I'm not going to take your word for it, because those "hypermasculine" men have the majority of the sex. So...that tells you which men women are attracted to.

Nomiki being a freakin' jerk to this caller.

@Yanaschaf

3 жыл бұрын

The caller is a delusional jerk who deserves to be made fun of. Cry louder, dude.

@elijahp9424

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yanaschaf We live in a very strange social climate.

@lustrazor44

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yanaschaf why does he deserve to be laughed at? For having misguided concerns? He doesn’t seem to want to take anything away from women or anything just wants to help men’s grievances. That’s a problem? You sound like a real good person.

@mrbadguysan

3 жыл бұрын

@@lustrazor44 he only does what he does to take something away from women. "MRA" ideology only exists to claw-back the progress made by feminists. He doesn't care about prostate cancer; he would gripe about literally anything that he perceived as a benefit of being a woman.

@Mike_C-79

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yanaschaf you should refute the man intellectually, which should be easy if his ideas are so ridiculous.

God, id love to see them apply these same arguments to feminism

10:28 The Caller - "we get messages from 13 14 15 year old boys who are scared; things they hear in school; they hear from their parents... and they hear the rhetoric that is being taught in school, they're being taught 'men are bad. boys are bad.'" 19:16 Sam - "All we know is that 13, 14, 15 year old boys are writing into you saying that people are telling them men are bad and boys are bad" The caller - "That's not what I said sam, that's not being honest" I meannn, the tape doesnt really lie on that one

@rootcanal7188

Жыл бұрын

@Ruby, if you have no heart and no brains, that's your problem.

Would be interested to hear a proper conversation. I think Men's rights activists are ridiculous too, but this video quickly devolved into shallow 'gotcha's and Nomiki chiming in to add nothing but antagonism. I'm no closer after watching this to understanding what motivates this guy, or whether he has any valid reason to want to defend men's rights. This type of dialogue shuts down any possibility of alternative viewpoints being considered.

@carlmclemore6104

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, Sam was an inconsiderate asshole out of the gate and Nomiki was a fucking child.

@carlosflar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was a very bad quality debate, nothing got properly developed...

@Maverician

3 жыл бұрын

I really am very disappointed in this episode. MRAs overwhelmingly come from a place of hate, and clearly women across the board have it worse than men, yet this almost works to try to convince people that isn't the case. All it was, was 3 people seemingly hatefully trying to misrepresent and antagonise a person that might actually recruit others to anti-feminism. I found out about this channel because of the H3-Crowder thing, and wanted to see more dunking on Crowder-esque people, but if this is honestly how the channel goes, then I don't want to support it, as it seems obvious that it will only end up being a catalysing force for the alt-right.

@carlosflar

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maverician i havent watched much either since i came from the H3H3 video too but I've seen good content, it was just this one so far that I felt was quite bad... I think when someone calls with an outrageous opinion like aguy in another video that calls to talk about the bell curve and intelligence difference between races to argue black people are inferior, in a situation like that its a totally valid way of arguing to ridiculize the position of the other person and to troll them a bit because of how far off and fringe their ideas are, but in a case like this one, I feel quite a good deal of conversation could have been done and it could have had a positive effect on this caller... i think some MRAs come from a position of hate and a decent conversation could be quite therapeutic in this aspect, and you also have some who just see an inequality and want to work against it, and with people like that, a good conversation could yield very good results and could make them see inequality problems in women and not just in men...

@lbnFadl

3 жыл бұрын

Nomiki basically mocked him like some neoliberal banshee for not being able to compete in the labour market

This is Classic MR. The only thing missing is Brooks & Binder howling in the background.

@uppsie

3 жыл бұрын

God I miss Brooks so bad

@mmeditatio

3 жыл бұрын

it's not actually. sam never interrupted his interlocutors this much. the great thing about sam is he would ask questions and allow people to answer and contadict themselves--he'd hardly even have to do anything afterward, he was extremely skillful. this is sam interrupting constantly using toxic bill o reilly fox news techniques and emma and especially nomi cringily girlbossing all over the place. i never thought i'd miss jamie's forced cool blase energy. jesus christ this was a depressing watch. this show is fucked.

@qqwpq

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man. The Brooks howl would complete this. Lmao

@vytalman

3 жыл бұрын

@@mmeditatio “this show is fucked” yeah ok. 👌

@andycole6724

3 жыл бұрын

@@mmeditatio I disagree. This caller was exceptionally unprepared. It was dripping off him from the start. He said he'd been watching the show and didn't even know how to pronounce Sam's name.

Sam and Nomiki are hopelessly ignorant on men's issues. They might want to speak live online to someone like Karen Straughan, but they don't have the balls.

The irony is there's a version of this guys arguments that actually makes sense, but he would have to admit that toxic masculinity is the cause of the problem and not woke feminists or whatever lol.

@xoxonaotchan_7902

3 жыл бұрын

Ding ding ding

@ChrisJohnson777

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Exactly. He doesn't understand that masculinity is social constructed and part of that are society expectations on men. These are intertwined and a lot of it is toxic and it hurts men and women. Honestly, these guys were unfair to this guy. A better solution would be to come to a common understanding

@captainvonkleist8323

3 жыл бұрын

Feminism has been the dominant strain of thinking on these issues for two generations now on the left, it can start to own the system it's influenced. If you can't criticize feminism, you're really at a dead end as far as questioning the authorities on the left. Feminists will always present themselves as out of power, it's their schtick. I wonder how they deal with the cognitive dissonance when they simultaneously celebrate their own accomplishments... Long story short, everyone has agency, everyone has knowledge, everyone has responsibility, including feminists and their critics.

@MatthewFutrell

3 жыл бұрын

@@captainvonkleist8323 Wow congrats you showed how stupid you are in a more eloquent way than the caller did.

@captainvonkleist8323

3 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewFutrell You guys are the libertarians of the left. See, if you go try to debate with libertarians on the right, what you find is the majority of them are just bozos who don't want to pay taxes. They just don't see their own greed. You guys are just really immature on these issues, you just don't see it yet. It's college level sex politics. That's why the responses to comments like mine look like yours.

Just listening to the first couple minutes and I’ve already got my hackles up. Sorry Sam, it’s not very decent of you to narrow the conversation to a limited bandwidth so you can one up the caller - that’s a Crowder rhetorical tactic. Caller was not making the case that men are oppressed in absolutely everything, he is pointing to a few areas he feels there is disparity. And the idea that Emma through out that women should get pension earlier due to living longer…what???? Surely that’s an argument got the opposite, men getting tot retire early due to earlier death. Anyway, I’ll keep listening.

@Nn-3

3 жыл бұрын

On the conversation narrowing... I think that's kind of a necessary for avoiding gish gallop. Otherwise the guy would continue churning out similar statements as if they contribute to his argument.

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

No, they missed the point everywhere on this. The caller was remarkably calm beside Nakomi trying her hardest to trigger him.

@d3l3tes00n

3 жыл бұрын

The caller is an idiot.

@Assortment54321

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. This was the most trash I've seen in a while and only served to make me angry. Woke scold twitter in a nut shell. "Hey, I want to talk about mens issues." "No. Woman have it worse. You don't get to." Thats all this was.

@corncake4677

3 жыл бұрын

@@Assortment54321 that wasn’t what happens but whatever

I was thinking if I was a mens right activist what I would fight for or try to change. My first thought would be to get a list of mens restrooms without a baby changing station and work to get them installed.

@treyalford5793

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for acknowledging the single dads. My dad appreciates it.

@x-man9473

Жыл бұрын

The NCFM, a men's rights legal organization fought for that in a state decades ago and won the case.

The lady at the bottom of the screen with the unusual name (Nomiki?) has serious issues letting a guest speak with whom she disagrees. Talk about sensitive and triggered!. She’s triggered at everything. I was actually interested in what he had to say even though I’m not likely to agree with anything he said. I’m a liberal man who considers himself a feminist. But I still believe in hearing people from the other side of an issue in full. That doesn’t mean talking over a guest. That’s just rude.. if you’re not afraid of what he has to say give him the time to say it.

@haza123b4

Жыл бұрын

*You are trying to use logic in a Majority Report comment section.*

Prison sentences, divorce settlements/child custody, homeless rates, work place injuries/fatalities, are some of the metrics that men fall short in.

@charlesamberwilliams1257

3 жыл бұрын

I can see that… Funny the caller didn’t mention any of those…

@darkprince56

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently in schooling as well. More women are graduating with at least more bachelors degrees than men

@gloria8093

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlesamberwilliams1257 Maybe because when he tried to bring things up he got shouted down before we even knew the points he was trying to make. I'm not saying it was intentional, but in fact they disoriented him at the start. Some people, in fact most people, don't regroup from this sort of initial onslaught quickly.

@Crystal-iq3wt

3 жыл бұрын

Every single one of these metrics has plenty of data showing exactly how and why these things happen, it’s not an MRA issue to any degree, and in fact has everything to do with patriarchal set up of society, of which feminists are fighting hard to dismantle. MRAs formed to COUNTER feminism claiming its anti-man when its simply against the same societal construct that is ALSO harming men. That’s the issue here. MRAs would be perfectly fine if they too were fighting that system. Instead they devote nearly all their time fighting women instead. All of their talking points have explanations, data points debunking their assumptions on it etc but they don’t listen. There’s no grey area to them. It’s all black and white. Majority of that can currently be blamed on the vast network of online communities dedicated to preying on these men, openly devising ways to radicalize them. Wanna take one guess what they’re hoping to radicalize them for? I guarantee you can guess it on the first try. If not I’d highly encourage you to listen to BehindTheBastards ep 79 (The eternal fascist) it’s a brief 7 part series. The show also has touched base on MRA directly. These men ARE victims, but not at all in the ways they have been purposely misled into thinking they are. Any MRAs reading, feminism (and me personally) care DEEPLY about your material conditions ans have fought endlessly to dismantle the exact system causing the exact issues you are angry about. Team up instead of letting yourself get pitted against us for the benefit of those in power fighting hard to maintain status quo and the online fash hoping to exploit your vulnerability.

@Crystal-iq3wt

3 жыл бұрын

@@gloria8093 Please see my reply to the above comment

I mean, this guy is obviously wrong but they could’ve been a little more civil imo.

@icecoldpierre

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they wasted 10 of those 28 minutes throwing out random questions that they didn't give him time to answer because somebody else wanted to talk. Not a good look for MR. They should take proper turns talking next time because that was chaos.

@tristanmcfolley346

3 жыл бұрын

I think this was a case of the topic being just so absolutely ridiculous that it could be played for comedy instead of a proper debate

@randyconrad4155

3 жыл бұрын

@@tristanmcfolley346 it's not ridiculous though. Patriarchy causes disparity that goes both ways (sometimes) the reason that men are expected to work overtime is because women are seen as primary care takers of children but also women are discouraged from overtime because it is less socially acceptable for men to be primary care takers of children. It cuts both ways. There is a considerable number of people in the men's rights movement that are young, inexperienced, and don't have a very wide world view. I'm talking high school, university freshmen age. The only feminism they've been exposed to is seen through the lense of right wing reactionaries that they fall into when they go through an edgy phase. Lots of guys go through that phase, I did, many of my friends did, hell, Bo Burnham did, it's quite normal. Some however get stuck on 4chan. Relating to these people and expanding their world view can only be done through agreement and like it or not patriarch and things like traditional gender roles are legitimate issues for some people. When we teach them that yes we hear you too, and show them that we understand and that those problems have the same root as the problems were fighting to change, we can legitimately win these kids over before it's too late.

@tristanmcfolley346

3 жыл бұрын

@@randyconrad4155 at that point it’s not a matter of rights anymore tho. It’s a matter of teaching young, impressionable boys a solid perspective. That’s not a problem. The problem is simply presenting that mission as on an equal or even relative level as the movement for women’s rights

@calvinware7957

3 жыл бұрын

@@icecoldpierre he also just couldn't answer them because he doesn't know what he is talking about.

The girl on the bottom legit said she doesn’t agree with the statement, “because men don’t come forward for domestic abuse due to stigma, and because that stigma also causes ones who do come forward to be ignored or not believed, it is POSSIBLE that the number [of men who experience domestic violence and are displaced because of it] could be lower than shown in a study she found. She said NO. This person shouldn’t be on a platform like this except to display hypocrisy and what not to do. If you change that sentence to women and any crime women don’t come forward against due to stigma she’d say yes. This is not toxic masculinity, it’s bigoted against men. I mean there’s no other way to explain that level of unaware hypocrisy to something that should give pause if only for the level of empathy it should be given.

@superok4luv2u

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that you are neglecting that men on average are much stronger than women and thus are more able to defend themselves against violence and abuse shows you are liar.

@JimstrVids

2 жыл бұрын

@@superok4luv2u nobody is neglecting that, and just because that’s average doesn’t mean it’s always that way. Able to defend themselves on average yes but BECAUSE of that, it’s also more “normal” to hit a man. You are neglecting that.

@badmittens5160

2 жыл бұрын

@@superok4luv2u I don't see how that follows from anything he said. Men can be, on average, stronger than women and still suffer from domestic violence at underreported levels.

This Sam Seder guy admonishes the caller for interrupting him, while he had done the exact same thing to the caller just before that. Not saying the caller is right, it's just something I noticed.

@anthonyparillo7832

5 ай бұрын

Yeah he’s definitely a bit too dismissive and snarky a lot of the time and it’s frustrating when the caller seems to be debating in good faith even if they have stupid ass points like this guy

Not real happy with all the smug looks they gave when he said he was an MRA. I am a fan of this show, and that was gross. I’ve been in a relationship with a man for two years now who is a single father raising his son full time with one income, and who has zero custodial rights and legally has to pay child support to the mother. He literally has to throw money at the mother, who never attempts to see the kid, UNLESS she decides once in a blue moon, on a whim, she wants to come pull him out of school and move him to a motel room OUT OF STATE with no word or warning. So we literally have a panic attack when he doesn’t get off the school bus thinking he was kidnapped, until we call her and realize both our numbers are blocked. Then we know she took him. Because legally she can do that. She won’t let us speak to him or see him during that time and our numbers are blocked so we have to literally call the police to do wellness checks so we know that he’s alive. We missed spending Christmas, thanksgiving and his birthday with him this past year. She didn’t even acknowledge his birthday. It came and went and he didn’t even know. Then! She has him change schools so he can live in that motel room with her for a while, until she gets tired of it or gets a boyfriend a few months later, unblocks our numbers, and tells us we can come pick him up three states away. So we have to call out of work for two days to make the drive and that the poor kid has to change schools AGAIN for no good reason. Then! we find out she hasn’t even sent him to school for two thirds of the time she had him and never did his homework with him, so we have to get him caught up or else he has to repeat the first grade. This has happened four times since I’ve known them. He is literally paying her to do this. This “mother”, who spends absolutely zero percent of that child support money on her child, but still hits us up for money all the time. And my boyfriend has to oblige and play nice or she’ll come snatch his son away again out of spite. It’s extortion and it is a fucking NIGHTMARE. In the past she falsely accused my boyfriend of hitting her and got him locked up for a while. That was proven in court to be a false allegation and she got in some legal trouble for that, but not much. Meanwhile my boyfriend did almost a full year in jail before the charges cleared. Cops sided with her all the way even though she had no marks on her body and her story changed eight times. She hasn’t had a job, a home, or a car in almost four years, but is somehow more fit to have primary custody of her son than his father, who has a home, a car a stable job and income, and a bedroom with a bed for the kid to sleep in. It doesn’t matter how crazy or unhinged or erratic her behavior is. Courts always side with the mom. He has fought and fought and flushed thousands of dollars down the toilet on lawyers and court fees and still has no rights to HIS OWN CHILD that he is raising and supporting full time on a waiters salary, while paying the mother child support. And this was just my first taste into the inequalities that men face in this country. There are so many more that I didn’t realize until getting to know a single father on a personal level. I would encourage my lib peers on here to read a little bit more about the movement before you lump everyone in with the fringe groups who hate women. No smug looks people, come on. Don’t you hate it when they lump all of us leftists in with Antifa?

@IceGoldDev

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear about you and your boyfriend's plight. Hang in there. I hope it gets better. And yes, I agree they were unnecessarily ruthless in this, and it felt like they didn't engage with him, they engaged with a caricature of him. Men do have legitimate issues, and the answer isn't "women have it worse", it's "lefties will fix those issues as well".

@ruinedmirage9722

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you both have to experience this also, and I think their expressions on the show are out of self preservation. Situations like yours are the exception, not the statistic. And with a country with as many people as the US, we can't afford to look at or judge everyone as individuals. We have to look at the percentages and statistics of reported cases and provide a blanket solution based on that data. It's really sad, actually The hosts can only conform to that solution to advocate for it because it helps the most people. Not that the caller was legit or had good arguments (I've seen one "debate" so far, and learned that you only have one sentence to convey all context and principle before the hosts deconstruct your response for 2 minutes). The smugness is truly the toxic part, and being presumptuous

@IceGoldDev

3 жыл бұрын

@@ruinedmirage9722 I see what you're saying. I don't see political discourse like this as akin to the Senate floor where compromises have to happen for blanket policies, though. In my view, we have a lot of room for nuance in a space like this. And if you can gain one more progressive vote by telling someone that you, in fact, care about their legitimate problems, and have solutions for them, why not do it?

@AthenaGate

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the minority.

@HamSolo916

3 жыл бұрын

THIS!

I understand the part where the gentleman lost the prostate health argument, but what I found curious is the complete lack of understanding or rather the dismissal of some of the points he made about the disregard for male pain. And this is where western feminism loses. It wants all it's issues to be taken seriously all the time, yet it makes very little room to listen to the issues of men, then it wonders how come fewer and fewer men see themselves as feminists and even less are supportive. The issues below exist. Feminists can either choose to dismiss them or be part of the solution. But laughing them off doesn't make them go away. 1). Family court system - unfair child custody issues. 2). Unfair Divorce laws 3). Male/teenage suicide and mental health 4). Continued failings of boys in schools leading to the increasingly skewed college numbers. 5). Disposability of men - dangerous but necessary jobs, military, etc. 6). Unequal prison sentences for the same crimes that men & women commit. 7). Domestic violence cases where men are routinely discriminated against. 8). Lack of empathy/understanding for male pain. The sad part is quite a big chunk of feminists see the points above as "women winning."

6:28 "18, 19, 20-year-old boys" - those are legal adults lol. This MRA is out here infantilizing men without the slightest hint of irony.

I don't like the guy much BUT I don't like that girlie glasses. She went off on him and that doesn't help!

Absolutely terrible behaviour from Nomiki here. if you cant keep your composure and keep projecting a bad attitude to the very people majority report NEEDS to get through to then just dont have her on

@dane21dc

Жыл бұрын

Absolute embarrassing listening to her

"30 min conversation with a fedora" LMAO. That shit killed me.

@machida58

3 жыл бұрын

Why are Fedora hats so bad?

@BarnsOfChris

3 жыл бұрын

@@machida58 hats for incels

@machida58

3 жыл бұрын

@@BarnsOfChris Clothes?

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

@@BarnsOfChris a hat is a hat is a hat... unless it's also your wife

@VincentTroia

3 жыл бұрын

@@machida58 cuz dorks wear them

I can’t get over Emma’s amusement in that first minute haha the person on the bottom is giving a silent UUUUUGH but Emma is just giddy in anticipation at the clown show that just started.

@ouwebrood497

Жыл бұрын

Yes, she knows this caller is absolutely right but can't get his point out, because Sam will simp for her and Nomiki will bitch for her. So she can just enjoy the right.

@haza123b4

Жыл бұрын

@@ouwebrood497 *You are trying to use logic in a Majority Report comment section.*

It is time for 50/50 child custody to become the norm. Right now most men have 2 days custody out of 14 if they are lucky. Feminists want to keep the 12 days custody for the Mother model and ONLY 2 days for the woman.

@ven9287

2 жыл бұрын

Men challenge for custody far less, and when they do challenge they lose a bit more than 50%. Considering that they challenge less in the first place, it is only logical that they get custody at a statistically lower rate.

@FeminismDebunked

2 жыл бұрын

@@ven9287 Men who challenge for Custody are forced to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. Many men simply do not have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend on legal fees. In Australia 74% of divorced and separated mothers have sole or majority custody most of those women were not forced to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. 50/50 custody needs to happen on day 1 of seperation. This is a stolen generation millions of chilren in Australia have little to no access to their fathers or fathers families. Come onto the channel and debate this with me.

@ven9287

2 жыл бұрын

@@FeminismDebunked I would gladly come onto your channel to debate this topic

@anthonymort5202

2 жыл бұрын

@@FeminismDebunked they get custody because not only do they give up 18 years of their life to raise the child but you know they carry the child for 9 months and then give birth to the child you just want 50/50 custody of your child because you see your child as a possession and a tool for you to wield

The caller was cringe, but Sam & co were incredibly bad faith here

@shadracarthur

3 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing Destiny led you here? Can you answer why so many of you are tagging Only Sam On twitter and not the women from the show? It’s almost like you don’t see Emma and Nomiki as people! LOL

@Daniel-ih4zh

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadracarthur we never said they were!

@unholt912

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadracarthur because no one knows the women's twitter

@ArktosBears

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadracarthur I don't even have Twitter. Just expected better from Sam. Don't know anything about his co-hosts

@FunkyBananaBear

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree Adnn, I've never watched Sam before and was super curious about getting into this dudes channel, but he was a COMPELTE asshole to this caller off the bat and continuing through

These people are hilarious man. If we have an issue with healthcare, just guarantee healthcare as a right to everyone and end the discussion there. Like really

@Paul07791

3 жыл бұрын

Like here in the UK, it's never discussed. Like NOT really.

@dylanthesea2976

3 жыл бұрын

This guy's 'men's rights issues' are only small on the list, as I have gone over them myself, as well as women's issues. Universal healthcare doesn't in anyway solve the issues men have in society. There's a reason that there's a large percentage of men with mental health issues and none of it is being addressed.

@jaredgreathouse3672

3 жыл бұрын

@@dylanthesea2976 🤨 you're aware that aside from powerful stigma, most people don't see therapists and so on because they can't afford it, right?

@bogusmcbogus2637

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredgreathouse3672 I have my doubts about that considering both Medicaid & Medicare cover mental health costs. Where did you get that claim from?

@brucewaite3733

3 жыл бұрын

@@bogusmcbogus2637 toy might want to take into account to qualify for Medicare you have to be in a close proximity to the poverty line. Most people wouldn't make the choice: Be poor- get health care-but be poor and struggle with everything else vs being somewhat better off-with possible health care from your employer-not having to struggle to have your bills paid.

The way they treat the guest is so unprofessional esp. the woman in the middle of the screen. And brining the topic of people of color is weak

Laughing and having a condescending tone is a great way to make your point.

This would have been much more constructive if it wasn't 3 people just talking over 1. Emma and Sam were respectful enough but Nomiki just was so mean and bad faith for no reason. I feel like feminists and MRAs actually have a lot of common ground but it always gets sidetracked into an optics game where each side is just trying to mudsling.

@kattysofatty6381

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@realchoodle

3 жыл бұрын

True! Both oppose the patriarchy even if MRAs can't identify problems.

@missburn

3 жыл бұрын

They have nothing in common. There is a reason why MRAs see feminism as a threat, and most people hate feminism and have always. They have a bad rep for a reason so no, feminism and MRA are not the same.

@Mon21209

3 жыл бұрын

I was with her all the way. This guy was DEFINITIONALLY bad faith. When you call in and refuse participate in the conversation when you realize you're being completely nailed on something, you become someone to be played with like a toy. If he wants respect, he has to show himself worthy. He was a complete moron start to finish and damaged his cause more than most could.

@knightofjustice5475

3 жыл бұрын

Feminism is fashion that takes things that weren't broken and tries to fix them effectively making them worse, and MRA deals with real problems.