Great analysis. The one thing I noticed that you never mentioned was that the three suspects are all victims too. The first one ended up dying by the train tracks, literally, like one of the murder victims. The other one was beaten and victimised whilst wearing red underwear, like the victims. The final one was also beaten and victimised with his hands tied behind his back, and the shot of him in the tunnel, hands bound on his stomach, is a mirror of how the first victim was found in the opening scene.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Good observation - I never considered the link from the tunnel shot to the actual victims :)

@cafelatte1124

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what police and other sectors of government back in 50~90s used to do in Korea. They beat confession out of people to get themselves higher up in ranks. Korean national intelligence service also used to do the same thing, accusing random people or someone they didn't like of being "communists" and get confession by means of torture.

@animeweeb653

3 жыл бұрын

The Detectives Prepared evidence that was either superstition from the shaman detective or evidence that was falsely gathered through coercion

Just watched Memories of Murder. For a movie I wasn't really feeling for the first 30-40 minutes, all I can say is, goddamn, what a turnaround. Blew my fuckin mind. Last couple of scenes are gonna stick with me forever.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the film can have that effect on you. I love the humor in the first part of the film, though :)

@MrCheesyBaconBits

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, its almost like Alien... takes about half the movie to really get anywhere and then just becomes one of the most engrossing things you've ever seen.

@brycefernandes7167

3 жыл бұрын

In the ending I didn't understand at first but before that I was crying when the scientist couldnt believe his results.it was only until after I saw online about the final scene I researched it and I laughed.

@silicaskynet3401

3 жыл бұрын

Same with me. The first 50 minutes was slow but once it hit 1 hour and 5 minutes, damn that is when everything turned around

@reallymanas

2 жыл бұрын

@@brycefernandes7167 can you explain who is the real killer? I'm so confused right now..

fun fact: kang ho song's flying kick was improvised..

@aldamayopanadjam7504

2 жыл бұрын

it's so magically perfect, funny, shocking and effective!

@babarasul680

2 жыл бұрын

No way 😂😂😂 bro no wonder the kick was amazing

The actual killer confessed in 2019, didn’t he? He even admitted how he was shocked the police didn’t even suspect him one bit. He was even wearing a watch that in a way matched with the crime scene and they overlooked it. It kinda shows how incompetent the polices were. In all of Bong Joon Ho’s movies, he never once has written a police officer that’s good at his job. Probably because of how he views the justice system.

@teannaboyd3237

2 жыл бұрын

Yes in poor towns in Korea the police isn’t the best and he highlights that they don’t even have the right technology

@SeoWoojin55

2 жыл бұрын

@@teannaboyd3237 yeah way back, it was that way. You look at Hwaseong now and other towns in the Korean countryside, it is a differenr story now. Korea really dominated and levelled technology up fast. Even me that came from a relatively small town in Southern Korea and moved to Seoul can say this.

@uku7883

9 ай бұрын

Is the true killer not in the film?

@9thmaggot

9 ай бұрын

@@uku7883 the movie was made when the killer wasn't caught yet, so no, we don't see him in the movie, since nobody knew who the hell he was

@datiess2661

9 ай бұрын

@@uku7883 no

Its a shame that dropkick man got his leg ampuatted and cant dropkick anymore

@desireandfire

3 жыл бұрын

I found his drop kicks to be cringe and pathetic like just hit a person normally but then it was really sad when he lost his leg

@Bhuyakasha

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's why he chose to kill a little girl rather than a woman for the last time ;)

@mmystomachhurtss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bhuyakasha he wasn't the killer?? Like there's no evidence to support that and wouldn't make sense narratively

@v-trigger6137

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bhuyakasha wtf. he wasn't the killer lmao

@Bhuyakasha

2 жыл бұрын

@@v-trigger6137 I like to provoke :D

Here's a crazy story. The real culprit was finally caught last November (2020) after 35 years from the first crime. Just like you said, the culprit confirmed that he did watch this movie while in prison for another crime (which was why he didn't get caught). Crazy, right? Really enjoyed your analysis. Would love to hear your take on 'Mother', which is my favorite Bong's film.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have to watch Mother again and think about it :)

@2023noone

3 жыл бұрын

do you have any reference about the part "....he did watch this movie while in prison...."?

@somsom8540

Жыл бұрын

@@2023noone I read it in a Korean article that he stated in court he had watched the movie in prison back then. He said the movie felt like other ordinary movies and he had no particular feelings while watching it.

@selty

Жыл бұрын

@@somsom8540 Yeah... but I could have sworn inmates said he watched it everytime it was on. Those kinds of killers are very narcissistic and of course he wouldn't admit the movie was effective or moved him in any way. Just like he said he was surprised he didn't get caught - to show off how he is better than the cops.

@pizrux6592

Жыл бұрын

damn that means when the ending scene hit, the actor was looking at the murderer

I've just realized the last murder disproved the whole direction of the investigation by happening during a dry night, this explains the chief's reaction to the interviewer and adds to the rage of detective Seo

@mmystomachhurtss

2 жыл бұрын

Ehh I see where you're coming from but the reason Detective Seo was so distraught is because he was tracking the suspected murderer and then the final murder happened when he wasn't accounted for, that's why he couldn't believe the DNA evidence was inconclusive and still shot anyway, because he was so distraught he let the suspect go and in his eyes because of this the child he bonded with died

Excellent analysis!

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank ye kindly!

@chetanwalia9598

3 жыл бұрын

Make an edit on this movie please.

@ChrisLeoThomas

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome seeing you here!

I have watched some undisputed classics this year and this was by miles my favorite. On par with the highest art anywhere.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

completely agree! The weird thing about this film's reputation is that, despite gaining somewhat of a cult following for the past 15 years or so, and with Bong's Oscar-win, it still feels like the film is very underappreciated, even by those who consider it to be a great film. Although Parasite is great, this one is superior to it, in my opinion.

@macycustodio9762

3 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaAutopsy agree, Parasite is a great movie with a crazy twist but this is definitely a Masterpiece!

@Trance18

3 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaAutopsy I Watched the movie 10 years ago and I was too young to analyze it and understand it fully ,then I came across a video of Tarantino couple of years ago speaking about Memories of Murder as a masterpiece and I rewatched It and I knew exactly what he meant this time, and To this day , It is my All time favorite serial killer movie , everything about this movie is a masterpice, and As you said it will be always underappreciated because it wasn't made in hollywood like Seven , zodiac and so on who are in comparison to Memories of murder in my opinion mediocore movies .

This was really good...and while it was dark I couldn't help but lol several times. Those fierce drop kicks lol... Great flick!

That dropkick by Song was epic!

@sadiqurrahman9741

3 жыл бұрын

Also his dialogue, 'what is this city? A paradise for rapists?'

the ending scene always gives me goosebumps. but what if the man who went looking there was actually other cops that worked with Mr. Park and not the murderer?

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Yepp! It's totally valid possibility too. As always with this film, we can't be sure :)

@Karnage420111

3 жыл бұрын

I believe the girl says the guy “did something” there. That leads us to believe it was the murderer.

@arlindfazliu26

3 жыл бұрын

@@Karnage420111 yes, but the verb "do" may refer to anything - incl. an investigation.

@Karnage420111

3 жыл бұрын

Arlind Fazliu of course. But from the perspective of this movie that would make 0 sense. The only thing that makes sense is the girl saw the guy who revisited the scene of the crime and the hint she gives is worthless.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

@@arlindfazliu26 agreed

A slow burner but a fantastic one. Glad we finally got to know the killer was caught... I used to think about it from time to time, wondering what the killer was doing and if he went to see the movie and tried not to laugh through it about how he got away... if he'd ever be caught, and not just before the movie came out, but he was jailed when I was only 1. Strange to think that the killer who caused me to lose sleep for weeks after my first viewing about who he was and if he was still killing elsewhere, or had he died and never be found was in jail before I was even able to speak or talk. I got so invested into this movie... something about real life cases get to me, I guess because its not just some good detective movie but because it actually holds real weight and victims behind the material

Watched it when it came out in Korea and I was shook to the core. It was so apparent that he is a world class talent.

Your interpretation about the last scene and the shaman staring at the audience is spot on. Great work!!

This is the only movie that could manipulate my toughts that much, the fact that my gut and the characters instincts clearly lead to the 3rd suspect as being the murderer, the lack of evidence and personality of the witness is fighting those toughts, incredible movie.

The problem with watching foreign films is that the unfamiliarity of the language, names and attributes of the people, places and things in the story often makes it hard to follow. I needed to watch a breakdown like this to really tie things together. Thank you.

@CinemaAutopsy

Жыл бұрын

my pleasure!

Such a awesome Analysis, you have a great sense of humor and very smart mind, I'm wishing your channel become more popular and more million of viewers..

This is a fantastic analysis. Makes me wanna watch this movie again

Excellent work as always !! Keep it coming

I just watched the movie last night (got turned on to Bong Joon Ho after watching Parasite last year and then also watched Snowpiercer which obviously didn't get the credit it deserved when it came out in 2013 in the US . I agree with the comments about the killer being unknown at the end of the movie (could have been anyone) since the real serial killer was still unknown when the movie was released in 2003. What I find very interesting is the similarities btwn the real serial killer and the "factory worker" suspect in the movie. The real serial killer Lee Choon-jae was finally caught in 2019 (linked thru DNA evidence but had been in jail for 20+ yrs for killing his sister-in-law). He was a shy and introverted, ex-military, and in his early 20's (just like the young factory worker in the movie) when he started his killing spree. So whomever wrote the screenplay for the movie did an excellent job of profiling what kind of person the real killer may be. According to his confession and testimony Lee Choon-jae killed b/c after the structure and thrill of serving in the military (which gave his life purpose) ended when he was discharged, the monotonous grind of a "working life" caused him to seek thrill/stimulation elsewhere. And in his sociopathic mind that meant exerting extreme control over others by committing violent crimes against women. His first victim was killed in Sep 1986 (she was 71 years old) and he killed 9 more women/girls thru April 1991 (including 2 who were only 14 years old). No one knows why he stopped his murderous spree but he did get married (sociopaths can be charming for a little while) but after his wife left him he invited his wife’s 18 year old sister over in Jan 1994 and then drugged, raped and killed her. He was arrested a few days later (before doing so he helped his wife's family look for their "missing" daughter) and was convicted/sentenced to life in prison but the Police never linked him to the earlier murders until more advanced DNA testing was used in 2019.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Yes, the film is definitely very well researched and contains lots of clues about how the real case transpired. If I remember correctly, some of the suspects who were tortured have now been compensated etc. The factory-worker suspect also contains several other nuggets of truth, from what I understand. One of them being how he fits the description of having "soft hands". However, in line with what I've tried to sketch out in the essay, I think the most interesting part of the character of the factory-worker was that he looks so generic. So, even if he was indeed the killer, and was seen by a witness, they still wouldn't be any closer to the truth. Because he's so average looking, with no distinct features apart from the "soft hands" , the witness would have nothing to go by, and would thus be of no help to the police. That also ties in with how the little girl describes whoever she saw in the fields - "he was just normal". Another thing to keep in mind was that the police also had the real killer in for questioning at one point, but not as a suspect I believe.

@scottmcdonough6968

3 жыл бұрын

​@@CinemaAutopsy I watched the film a 2nd time and tried to look for more "clues" to see if the factory worker was the killer. I stopped the video when the killer emerges from the field to attack the woman bringing the umbrella to her husband at the factory (48:51) which was based on one of the real killings (as were the peaches and the spoon/pen). The "killer" was young but didn't really look like the factory worker (I'm surprised Bong Joon Ho put that quick glimpse in the movie). I also analyzed the factory worker's hands during the scene when the detectives first interrogate him and then again the slow moving scene showing the killers hand on a tree before the last murder (when the killer is deciding which female on the path he is going to attack) and again nothing conclusive. Finally I looked at the clothes the factory worker was wearing when he got on the bus to see if they matched the killer's clothes in the last murder scene as the camera focuses on him for awhile as he carries the young girl thru the woods. Not a surprise that there was no conclusive evidence in the movie since the truth of who the killer was in real life was unknown. I did see a KZread video of deleted scenes from the movie (13 mins worth)- subtitles weren't great but you could get the gist of the dialogues. And I believe that Bong Joon Ho cut these scenes out so that there is more ambiguity towards who the killer b/c the scenes point toward the factory worker. One 60 second clip was more from the initial interrogation of the factory worker- the Shaman pulls down the factory worker's pants and underwear to see if he is has any pubic hair and he does not. The Shaman then stares into his eyes. Another 75 second clip shows the female police woman talking alone with the factory worker in the interrogation room after he had been beaten by the Kicker. She place a lamp and a tape cassette on the desk where the factory worker is sitting. She plays a particular song on a cassette tape which they discuss (she is trying to get clues about the song). A final 150 second video clip which takes place after the beat down/DNA scene (after they let the hand-cuffed factory worker go) is very telling. The Shaman is cleaning out his desk- assuming he is quitting and leaving the police force as he slowly packs his bag and looks around the empty room. He then goes down in the basement to the interrogation room where the the Scientist is staring blankly at the empty interrogation chair and desk. The Shaman puts his hand on the Scientist shoulder, says he is sorry and walks away. A few seconds after the Shaman leaves the lamp on the interrogation desk begin to flicker for almost a full minute-lightness and darkness as the camera pans toward the empty chair and then back to the Scientist's face as he begins to cry. To me the flickering lights say everything- the detectives had the killer in w/in their grasps (in full "light") but couldn't convict him primarily b/c of all the chaos (darkness) that was going on not only w/in themselves and the police force (lack of good forensics, belief in rumors and shamans, police brutality and forced confessions, e.g.) but also w/in Korean society as a whole during that time (violent uprising against a repressive govt, women living in a misogynistic culture). So to go back to your point, the truth was there in front of them but became elusive. And yes the factory worker could have been any "average" looking Korean citizen (any male citizen that is).

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

That's really cool. I didn't know there were deleted scenes. I'll have to look that up. And yes, I think it's safe to say that Bong had other interests than making a traditional "whodunnit".

One of the greatest pieces of asian cinema!

Good music, perfect tone of voice, smart flawless analysis, very enjoyabable video

good job bro this was honestly so cool

One thing i would mention is the 3 main suspects represent the 3 detectives as well. The disabled one represents the kicker, the red underwear one represents the shaman and the last one represents the scientist as well

Incredible video!! This film is perfection 🙌🏼

This is one of those movies that I have to watch again to find out what clues I missed. Great yet disturbing film.

I just watched this film for the first time the other night. Great film, and great analysis! Subscribed.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

thanks, Adam!

Amazing video mate, keep uploading great stuff like this

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

thanks! working on it :D

just watched this movie and your analysis is absolutely on point, I will put your video link in my Memories of Murder review in my personal letterboxd 👏

You are a Gem. what an analysis ....Truly Amazing ...Thank You So much

Wow amazing analysis, I totally didn’t see that but I do now.

dear,never stop...you will kick the boundaries...its damn excellent autopsy...

I feel like this channel could potentially blow up

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

That would be something ;)

Where can I watch this remastered version in the Philippines? Please! Thank you

Thanks man.Great work! 💯

@CinemaAutopsy

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Drop kick man is a legendary character in film history

Recently discovered this, Infernal Affairs and Oldboy. I’ve been missing out!

@CinemaAutopsy

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

Utrolig bra analyse av en utrolig bra film 👌🏻 +1sub

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Takker og bukker. Trivelig å høre. :)

Watched the film last night. Great Analysis!

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Waouh excellent video I did not notice all those things during the film thank you!

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the kind words, glad it was enlightening!

the fact that the real killer did in fact watch the movie is crazy, he said he watched it as just a movie and felt nothing special or smtg like that

One question The dialogue between the little girle and the killer happened really? Or it is fictional?

this is one of the best movies ever...no wonder it's south koreas movie of the century....its hauntingly beautiful

background music? =(

Thank you ! for youre view of the Movie. Greetings from Germany!

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Hello from Norway, thanks for watching :)

Superb analysis ..💯💯💯

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

grazie!

Your 290 subs people this channel so underrated

One of my favourite films. Just brilliant

@CinemaAutopsy

2 жыл бұрын

Same here !

Loved your analysis. Subscribed! Can you analyze Transcendence? I think that film is grossly misunderstood.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

I'll have to watch it first - adding it to my list :)

Just watched the movie, great analysis. I wasn't too invested at first but as the movie progressed I was more and more inmersed in the movie! Thank you for sharing 💕

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

my pleasure!

@calvinbernard

3 жыл бұрын

Yup definitely a slow burner. The beginning of the film, I was like "where is this film going" but then towards the end, what a turnaround.... Great analysis of the film too! 16 years later, the same director made oscar winning parasite. Definitely carving his name as one of the best auteurs out there.

Great video for a great movie, one of those where while your watching it you just know there's so much your not picking up on a first watch

@CinemaAutopsy

2 жыл бұрын

Very true!

what a great analysis holy shit

Good analysis and great movie

Nice analysis

At 6:19, what are these things?? I know the man said they were peach, but they looked more like meat to me??

@Animeguyis1

3 жыл бұрын

there's alot types of peach,hard,soft, normal,the one in the movie is hard

Fantastic video

I felt that final look in my soul. immediately I thought I'm a sus too 😄 powerful powerful powerful human connection. Even after years even from different countries us humans can have a connection by eyes.

The cases were solved in 2020. The criminal is Choon jae Lee, male 60 years old. He has been prison since 1994 by another crime which was murder and rape. Police extrated DNA from victim's clothes by progressive science. The prosecution charged him for serial murder and rape. And there is a innocent victim Mr.Yoon who was arrested 1988 by police for 8th murder case. He was tortured by police. He insisted that he was not guilty in court but sentenced 20 years in prison. The real criminal will not be able to get out of the prison before he die and Mr.Yoon opened damage suit to government. Interestingly Lee,the criminal, said that he actually watched this movie in prison before his crimes were detected.

Thank you.

Where is next part ✌️😅

Analysis is fine but the background music is very distracting.

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input :)

The background music makes the film appear much unserious then it atually is.

Im speechless

There are several ways to uncover a murderer: some search for clues, some kick with their shoes, and some look for pubes.

@logan__4517

2 жыл бұрын

underrated comment

the truth is i was reallly salty they never revealed a killer lol im still salt since 2005

I'm your avid viewer I'm naturally born from Philippines 😊

Hmm i believe the original killer was caught though they just couldn't prove all the cases.

👍

Their obsession with flying kick

I was disturbed by how bleak this was, treatment of disabled, torture, idiocy in pursuit of a simple almost victim-ready populace. Bleak. And the 'key' moments are indecipherable for a Shaman....

ddddddddam boiiiii u did good

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

shiiieet guuurl, datz nice 2 hear

This video really added some value to the film for me. I was somewhat disappointed after I watched it even though I tend to like 'special' or 'different' movies. Now that I know why the police men are all so stupid and that's it's based on an actual case, I can appreciate it more. Still horrible pacing during the first half imo. After 70 minutes it felt like 90 but it wasn't...

@CinemaAutopsy

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to have helped!

@anny1650

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I was so excited to watch this and it was... just good. Not what people hyped it up to be so now I'm watching these videos on KZread to feel more satisfied lol.

@ashleyschaefferkia2734

9 ай бұрын

@@anny1650 Dopamine spike detoxing will help watching better movies as opposed to thrill rides

한글 자막을 원한다

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I'm not able to help you there :(

Christopher Nolan level of movie.

Please make a Tiktok account, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook Account to gain more Viewers and Show to the world this Channel are deserve millions of subscribers and viewers 😊

@CinemaAutopsy

3 жыл бұрын

I'll think about it! Not sure how I'd be able to adapt my content to those platforms yet. Do you know any examples of similar channels who do that well? Thanks for the kind words.

엌 살인의추억이다

Lol why did you give them nicknames. just use their names.

Kick 😂

Good video ruined by farked-up music.

But who was the killer

@Lost20048

3 жыл бұрын

Ffs, did you not watch the video 🤣

@valentinobatzom8367

3 жыл бұрын

he has been caught by the way. he name is lee chun jae

@donndior1536

2 жыл бұрын

@@valentinobatzom8367 why

This video would’ve been soo much better if you used their real names. I understand the chance of pronouncing korean names wrong, but you literally pronounce “Shaman” wrong the entire video lmao

I know who was killer. New ditective 1. When a lady murdered near factory. A man comes out from grass was new decective. You can see his face in movie by push video. 2. When dectives sent a red cloth woman on road. You should see the exact location closely there were two tree where new detective stand. And This was the location where last murder done and killer stand there and two tree were also in last murder scene. 3. The killer fingers were long in last scene. 4. Now you will say that when both were fighting the murder done same time. So this fight was not too much long.

@valentinobatzom8367

3 жыл бұрын

it makes no sense at all and the killer has already been caught in real life by the way.

@donndior1536

2 жыл бұрын

@@valentinobatzom8367 what do you mean

This movie is a disaster. Completely stupid, you spend 2h and 20 min of clowns trying to catch a killer and nothing really happens... What a freaking waste of time.

@Dan-sw8tg

2 жыл бұрын

I feel that way too lol. Okay the director wanted to show how fcked the police was in korea, but wtf don't make us waste 2:20 hours

FYI, the criminal finally captured in 2019. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Choon-jae

@obser99

2 жыл бұрын

I don't believe he is the real culprit...