Melting Copper in Ingots using my Fire Brick Furnace and a Propane Burner

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

Finally I use the new foundry furnace and propane burner to put the literal fire to the copper. As predicted, the mighty, rickety propane burner won. The plan here is to use these copper pucks to make alloys of bronze and brass, specifically aluminum bronze. Look for that in a coming video. Furnace is HOT!
The Furnace build is found here: • How to Make a Fire Bri...
The Burner build is here: • Easy to Make Propane B...
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  • @dimitrioslykissas7981
    @dimitrioslykissas79816 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this man deserves extra credit for working a foundry while wearing a fashinable afternoon mens' coat.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol not only is it fashionable, it’s wool which resists burning! Safety and fashion can go hand in hand

  • @davesalzer3220

    @davesalzer3220

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right?

  • @billpeck9836

    @billpeck9836

    3 жыл бұрын

    if he had a accent , he could be british

  • @richardbussard4202
    @richardbussard4202 Жыл бұрын

    Very much enjoyed your video series on the furnace. Note: I made Church bells, melting 350 lbs. copper adding 20% tin, for the proper "Church Bell meta;", then added 1% phosphorus as a scavenger. The 'Church Bell' has five tones, all in harmony with each other. The furnace was made from an old boiler blower, with Kaowool lining then cast-able refractory inside a steel shell, with a tangencial burner opening. A silica graphite crucible, with a spout, and this became a 'tilting crucible furnace'. A 'doer' is one who is not afraid to learn...'from experience'.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    That's great! 350lbs is a pretty heavy pour! Have you seen the KZread channel "swdweeb"? He's a friend of mine who makes a lot of bells. Smaller ones though. Bells are incredible. Im not sure I have the skills to get it to ring out and not crack or something. It would be fun to try though

  • @fontesdeo8582
    @fontesdeo85825 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos Paul. Appreciate the dry humor the most. :)

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! glad you enjoy. People say I use dry humor, but nobody will explain to me what wet humor is...

  • @jeffsandling5981
    @jeffsandling59816 жыл бұрын

    Recommended by Roy...I'm hooked! Great job man, love the sense of humor!...subscribed

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Roy is a great guy

  • @eldardrakeson
    @eldardrakeson6 жыл бұрын

    looking forward to seeing you doing the alloys! and aluminum bronze is a very underrated alloy, except to those that've heard of it. awesome choice!

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I hope it works out! looks like a great alloy for sure. If anything i'll have a gold bling bling hammer :D

  • @danhoyt9961
    @danhoyt99616 жыл бұрын

    You can get heaters for refrigerant tanks at supply houses that may work well for a propane tank.

  • @fleckione-workinprogress4249
    @fleckione-workinprogress42496 жыл бұрын

    Seems to work great

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @PracticalRenaissance
    @PracticalRenaissance6 жыл бұрын

    Neat!! Copper looks so cool when its hot!

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    It totally does! It's like magical glowing soup.

  • @thewarriorpig3151
    @thewarriorpig31516 жыл бұрын

    Looks cool! I've been collecting aluminum, brass, copper and any other metals I can find. Watching you to see what you can come up with! My wife wants a simple bracelet but I'd like to see what the "gold" looks like (and how to make it). Thanks, Paul! Love your vids!

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    An aluminum bronze bracelet sounds pretty awesome!

  • @jmkuznicki
    @jmkuznicki6 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a really solid furnace design

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    It seems to work pretty well

  • @pghcustombaits2816
    @pghcustombaits28165 жыл бұрын

    I have watched th videos of the build for this. Few questions what is the rating on the bricks. And what was the product you painted on. What was the bricks that you used. The ones i found was more clay colored. Thanks

  • @JockoBarbone
    @JockoBarbone6 жыл бұрын

    This was even more interesting than your other videos...which were damn interesting.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you enjoyed :D

  • @marcelozerbini5411
    @marcelozerbini54113 жыл бұрын

    I'm an alloyst as well. I absolutely love the idea of alloys

  • @arsherwin1234
    @arsherwin12342 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul, love your videos. Why can't you mix red brass with yellow brass? And how do you tell if you have red brass or just copper? Andy

  • @clarencecherrone7914
    @clarencecherrone79146 жыл бұрын

    I've found the best aluminum to melt down is from cast aluminum parts. There are additives already in cast parts. Also you can usually find someone with an old transmission or engine parts laying around.

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred6 жыл бұрын

    It looks like your new furnace works really good.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks! Its much better than the last one, and it's finally big enough for a big crucible for the gingery lathe bed.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Paul's Garage first attempts at non-trivial tasks are rarely final attempts. So your other furnaces all taught you things. Though it is funny how in hindsight those same things often seem as if they should have been obvious at the outset. But that's not how it works.

  • @cannabisenigma
    @cannabisenigma6 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid dude I cant wait to see what you make. Maybe grab a second tank, and store on the other side of property, for when it freezes.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have a few tanks actually, but they are all empty except for one. i'll have to get one of those setups to use multiple at once, freezing tanks is just going to get worse when winter hits and it's 0f outside.

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel200316 жыл бұрын

    I made a fairly decent kale wool furnace with air forced propane. It took forever for the copper to start to melt with one burner so I added a second one. Now aluminum seems to melt really fast with the two burners compared to the one but copper not so much. And when the copped does melt, it seems the dross is throughout the copper, top to bottom. If I try to stick something in there to scrape the dross out, the copper freezes on the tool, and I end up pulling out mostly copper/bronze caked on to the tool, and dross which is caked onto the copper/bronze And if I'm lucky I might get 25% of the weight of Copper that I put in the Crucible so my yields are horrific. I added a small puck of aluminum bronze that I successfully made and added four times more weight of copper on top of it and got out pretty much the same sized Puck that I started with. Lead and aluminum for me was easy, but copper is a nightmare. I need to find a forum for people who know how to do this crap so perhaps I could learn some less crappy skills at melting copper.

  • @massimoserra4787
    @massimoserra47876 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul, great to see your new furnace just working fine. BTW: here are another suggestion for creative projects, a small bronze bell, nice for Christmas and the kids to call Santa ;)

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bronze bell would be awesome

  • @Joe-dw8sh
    @Joe-dw8sh6 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to make a furnace

  • @swdweeb
    @swdweeb6 жыл бұрын

    I take that as a personal challenge. I was going to wait a few weeks before trying to make a copper/aluminum alloy. I guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow... maybe tonight ;-) Good to see that thing finally running

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wanna race to an aluminum bronze casting, you say?

  • @swdweeb

    @swdweeb

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sure :-D Assuming you haven't already done it and have the video in the can is it were.

  • @dillpickle2887

    @dillpickle2887

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @astcomjakecw
    @astcomjakecw6 жыл бұрын

    Some advice on why your torch is acting like that, but first, I see you did homework / took advice on borax and tempering, props for not falling victim to the internet. Misinformation is intentionally given out at many foundries (i work around these guys) to keep outsiders out and stop them from taking the stagnant amount of profit in the industry. Always cross reference, or ask a chemist if you aren't sure. Your torch is doing something called "coughing". It's that buzzing sound, like a diesel engine, its why your torch sucks flame inside it. It means you dont have a high enough velocity coming out of the torch. Its basically a pulse jet without the valve on it. This causes a few issues. The first being that it overheats the torch, making it oxidize faster and crack apart prematurely (this is also why we use removable tips). The second thing it does is drop you total BTU (your max possible heat). And third, though this isn't always an issue (it depends on how badly its coughing and how close the vent is from the surface of your melt), it can cause oxidation, lots of slag / dross. Its pulling in cold air and pushing it out, basically super oxygenating the melt, and further dropping the temp. * How to fix it: First you need enough pressure. We run ours wide open without a regulator, just a pipe valve and the propane tank's valve, which is very touchy. Feather them both to tune it. You can run it wide open and be fine, it's not "as" safe but you're not gonna blow up unless the hose is 10 years old and rotted from sun exposure. To be safer just use a steel braided hose and it wont be able to do much of anything even if the hose is really old and rotted (they last longer too). Second: you need fuel velocity. We use .025'' mig welder tips, but you can use different sizes to tune it. This restricts the flow and acts as its own regulator while increasing velocity. This part on its own is the single most effective thing to swap out when you want to change the performance of a torch. A .025 is perfect for a 1'' or 1.5'' venturi if you want aggressive, fast melting torches. Your torch should hiss loudly when not lit, with the valves open (no sound when shut), it will sound like its dumping propane.. don't worry, its not. It will run wide open for about 2 or 3 hours. We also use unregulated LP connectors. Most have a ball valve, don't use those. Get one known as a "full flow" LP connector. That's another massive upgrade you can get, cheaply. Third: let it breathe. Take the cross pipe out of it, unless you want to use a larger pipe, but you are just complicating flow and mix with it at that point. If you want a cross-pipe, you need to have a very thin one, preferably one that goes in one hole and bends 90 degrees (these are inefficient and dont allow tuning like welding tips do. The King of Random shows a propane torch design, thats the one that most of us use, for good reason. Make one but watch out for his parts list, some of the things he lists like the regulator and pipe / flares are not correct. Double check before buying. That welding tip he has is what i use on mine, and it makes for a flame that slightly melts my kaowoll and sips propane pretty reasonably even when wide open without a regulator. A venturi torch seeks an ideal air fuel mix and adjusts its velocity accordingly, meaning you can turn the flame up and down and it will intake as much air as it needs for a good burn, till it looses too much propan e velocity to do so. Its a simple but elegant design. Dont use a restrictor plate like KoR did, this is not needed in a venturi and using it actually causes a significant heat drop and in some positions, can promote oxidation on your melt. A choke is used in some larger venturi torches but this is more of a safety feature than anything else. They make it easy to light a torch without loosing hair. That feature is up to you, but once the torch is in the forge, remove the choke completely and use the pipe valve and LP valve to tune the flame. We use pipe flares on the rear of the torch to promote laminar flow as much as possible (low turbulence), and larger ones on the front for proper flame shape and helps ensure a good mix. * If the propane velocity is high enough (pressure and outlet diameter), and you have a good torch body design, the flame should be aggressive and make a solid roar, not a buzz. It should burn almost entirely blue, like a giant butane torch, but aggressive. The tip of the flame will have whips of yellows. Till you close the forge, in which case it should go completely blue. It will sound a bit like a jet flying by when you walk past it. Always use thread tape (PTFE tape / Teflon tape) on fittings, including the welding tip. I recommend skipping the regulator, and if you do skip it, and it cant breathe properly even after the design described above, check that the tip isnt jammed with thread tape like mine was. I spent a week trying different things when i first started and spent lots of money just to find it was clogged. Another think you might want to try is an extension pipe behind the welding tip nozzle, a sort of arm to hold the hose away from the body of the torch, this allows the propane to heat up just slightly over a longer distance and has more time to decompress (this can raise the burning temp from a better fuel / air mix at the tip). Make sure you swap the forward pipe flare out when it begins to crack apart. If you dont, and run it without that flare, your pipe starts to get sacrificed and needs a rebuild. So take care of it, swap the tip when needed (hit it with a hammer, lightly, to see if its dead or not. If it is,.it will shatter and fracture chunks off of it, it also turns hazy gray). Good luck and enjoy. It should melt your metal much, much faster and use less propane overall... More per second, but because it takes far less time to melt, because of the higher BTU, it ends up using less in the end. You would be surprised by just how much you have left after a melt.

  • @ryannu1578

    @ryannu1578

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dev Wolf I don’t want to brag too much but I’m an amateur myself and just casted for the first time the other day casting a 5lb tin bronze ingot and while I made mistakes in my design my torch was as you described my family described it like the airport so I’m pretty happy, I did a lot of research and when you mentioned the misinformation being spread that scared me a bit but it makes sense because I looked at a lot of resources for information and tips and there where inconsistencies and totally overlooked topics i had no idea what a plinth was until days before my cast, and I can definitely say I see no competition and little community I guess this really is something of a lost art I’m really glad I stumbled into this hobby as it looks very profitable

  • @rcstuff7718

    @rcstuff7718

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a lot of text for a comment

  • @RobertSanz1

    @RobertSanz1

    5 жыл бұрын

    When I switch from coal to gas.. I going to come back to you.. Hope it's soon.

  • @dougotio
    @dougotio4 жыл бұрын

    which C.W. Ammen book is the one that you recommend? There are quite a few on Amazon.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have read the guide to sandcasting and the guide to metal casting. Lots of overlap there but the sandcasting book has extra detail in the topic without some of the other filler about investment casting and the like. Both are worth having on the shelf, however. I have not read his other books but I'm sure they are also good

  • @fubar5656
    @fubar56566 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see the furnace is stilling working great! I want to make one but fire brick cost soooo much. I am thinking about using Rutland Replacement Fire Brick (604) because it's 20 bucks for 6 at Ace Hardware and it is rated to 2700F. Think it may be a bit thin however. Can't wait for the next video!

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    those won't insulate very well, but they should hold up to the heat just fine. The insulating ones are also much weaker, so the heavy stuff is better in some ways.

  • @fubar5656

    @fubar5656

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul's Garage I may try them out and see how well it works. I think it could be worth it with the price difference. I’m not really sure what I’m going to do for the foundry exterior. Not the best at welding and I want it to look nice.

  • @boby321697
    @boby3216976 жыл бұрын

    I once tried to make a ring out of standard tin bronze but I ran into a few problems. The solder I used had rosin in it which made the bronze look more like silver and I'm really bad at making wax molds.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Huh I guess rosin free solder is an important distinction. I didn’t mention that, thanks for the info

  • @Uncle_Bucks_Forge
    @Uncle_Bucks_Forge6 жыл бұрын

    Cool Nice job enjoyed the video.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @seethegalaxy
    @seethegalaxy6 жыл бұрын

    copper is just great stuff

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Super useful and cool looking

  • @thesheepdog1974
    @thesheepdog197411 ай бұрын

    Does the charcoal really help?

  • @kurtbogle2973
    @kurtbogle29732 жыл бұрын

    Where do you get crucibles?

  • @jbwelch89
    @jbwelch896 жыл бұрын

    sweeet i call dibs on future kniffe/hatchet cast lmao jk jk that costs $$$ lol love this setup!!!!! soon as im done with this cannon and its lil projects iv gotta build one!

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol an aluminum bronze hatchet would be pretty awesome, thats for sure

  • @hassanmahmood703
    @hassanmahmood703 Жыл бұрын

    Any idea what ratio of copper is good for wire

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Wiring is generally as pure copper as possible. In fact copper wiring can't be recycled back into wiring because the recycled stuff isn't pure enough. It has to be freshly refined super pure copper for wiring

  • @nickhollister9483
    @nickhollister94836 жыл бұрын

    awesome!

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @BUSTRCHERRI
    @BUSTRCHERRI5 жыл бұрын

    Just drill out the pinhole in the torch if you want more hear. Not too much though or you have to tweak everything. The bell the air etc. And just wrap the tank in a hearing blanket or aim a heater at it. Either that or use a larger tank and keep it full. Using too much volume of propane too fast will make the smaller tanks frost up in no time.

  • @lukazzz90
    @lukazzz906 жыл бұрын

    It’s just a guess, but maybe if you would have used forced air, you could turn the propane to a lower setting, and still get to the same temperature, and consequently the propane tank would take longer to freeze.

  • @TheBullterrierist
    @TheBullterrierist6 жыл бұрын

    Can I cast a 20 cm Copper/Aluminium sculpture of a bird & have good detail do you think? Do different metals have better detail? I know aluminium isn't great. I've been having much success with detailed pewter sculptures but they are very heavy. I'd like to make small bronze ones eventually. Would delft clay or similar survive copper sort of temperatures? Thanks

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    different alloys do have different casting properties. Pure aluminum and pure copper are both pretty bad, but cast aluminum (containing high amounts of silicon) and various bronzes and brasses can work with a high level of detail. Other metals like zamak (alloy of zinc and aluminum) also work great at lower temperatures. delft clay holds up pretty well i think, i've never used it personally though. I think jewelry makers use delft clay and gold melts at a similar temperature as copper, so it would probably work. Cant say for sure though.

  • @ryanzasuly6757

    @ryanzasuly6757

    6 жыл бұрын

    The casting material makes a huge difference too. Petrobond has really small grains for high detail

  • @TheBullterrierist

    @TheBullterrierist

    6 жыл бұрын

    Petrobond is what I use, it's great. You have to sieve it and then pack it down loads , after casting you just remove the burnt stuff. I will experiment with bronze and report back (y)

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato6 жыл бұрын

    Pro tip : Put your jacket sleeves OVER your fire gloves, and try to keep it that way. My aluminium jumping into the glove thing taught me that

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the tip! i'll remember that

  • @adilmehmood5672
    @adilmehmood56725 жыл бұрын

    The way you explained the Theories and Alloys rather than working silently..........i surrender to Sub!

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! That's how I do it, ramble and talk endlessly. There's no way i could shut up the whole time.

  • @adilmehmood5672

    @adilmehmood5672

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulsGarage keep doing dat broda. It would be a favor

  • @daniellara3385
    @daniellara33853 жыл бұрын

    That’s the most irreverent way to melt cooper, but what a way to enjoy it

  • @NemecJesse
    @NemecJesse6 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious, with the efforts made to de-oxidize the copper in the crucible, do you think the iron oxide in the bottom of the muffin pans might negatively affect the ingots?

  • @SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite

    @SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite

    5 жыл бұрын

    The oxygen in the rust isn't reactive, so it shouldn't be any issue

  • @christopherziebell1221
    @christopherziebell12214 жыл бұрын

    Well its funny you are from Janesville lol as is my wife. Anywho how long did you leave it burn before it melted the copper?

  • @scottgarvinjr8262
    @scottgarvinjr82626 жыл бұрын

    What kind of propane tank do you use? Do you use the one that goes under a barbecue grill or a different one?

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah bbq grill tank. Literally took it from under my grill.

  • @scottgarvinjr8262

    @scottgarvinjr8262

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul's Garage I did the same thing. Thanks for your reply. Approximately how long does your tank last before it starts freezing?

  • @tracyalger4844
    @tracyalger48444 жыл бұрын

    How would you force air into your foundry.?

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    The burner is a tube, so I attach something to the back. These old videos I use a hard dryer, now I use an air mattress pump

  • @thecrudelab3204
    @thecrudelab32046 жыл бұрын

    AHHHH NEED TO POOOO! BUY THIS VID IS INTERESTING!!! ARGHHH

  • @stephenmiller8556
    @stephenmiller85563 жыл бұрын

    Silicone Bronze I believe is Navel Bronze!

  • @beowulfplayz8573
    @beowulfplayz85736 жыл бұрын

    Yo Paul's garage i am going to make a furnace like yours I already made one that will melt aluminum out of a five gallon paint jug it was very interesting but I am going to build one like this one but on a little larger scale

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds fun!

  • @rcstuff7718
    @rcstuff77185 жыл бұрын

    I think the best way to get tin is melting pennies they are made of zinc but coated with a tiny bit of copper but there mostly zinc

  • @UnTamedMustang
    @UnTamedMustang5 жыл бұрын

    What # is that crucible you're using (if you remember from a year ago haha)

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think that was a #4? Cant remember though so could be wrong

  • @jbwelch89
    @jbwelch896 жыл бұрын

    are you going to do the aluminum casted hammer handle that on youtube as well?

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    No probably wood handle. Absorbs more shock, not as slippery. I plan to use the hammer.

  • @jbwelch89

    @jbwelch89

    6 жыл бұрын

    my apologies the one i had in my mind was this he uses lead not brass but still a neat idea kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIJkm9CjYrnbaMo.html

  • @ronyerke9250

    @ronyerke9250

    6 жыл бұрын

    My bronze hammer has a steel pipe for a handle. I think my stepdad's father made it himself. That thing REALLY needs to be re-cast too. It's all smooshed up unevenly now.

  • @jackdixon9742
    @jackdixon97426 жыл бұрын

    try putting your propane tank in a bucket of warm water and you could also get a water heater from attwoods that is used to keep water frome freezing over.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    good plan. I just need a bigger bucket and a way to keep the bucket itself from freezing... winter here is pretty cold

  • @david.perrip4316
    @david.perrip43166 жыл бұрын

    Same thing happens to me I have two or three tanks when one freezes I stopped in the middle and switch to a new tank it works kind of dangerous though

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like something I can try. I like to live dangerously ;)

  • @AlumiTube
    @AlumiTube6 жыл бұрын

    Cool Paul :)

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @scottgarvinjr8262
    @scottgarvinjr82626 жыл бұрын

    What does Borax do to metals you put it in?

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think it binds to the impurities so they rise to the surface

  • @scottgarvinjr8262

    @scottgarvinjr8262

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul's Garage Alright thanks. I found borax at my local store, but wasn't sure if I should buy it because I wasn't sure what it would do to my metal.

  • @roshanlal1913
    @roshanlal19133 жыл бұрын

    Can we melt silicon with this furnace using LPG ? If yes, then How.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pure silicon has a melting point in the 2500's Fahrenheit, that's pushing it for sure. I've done iron in this with the same burner, so I suppose it's possible. Why would you melt silicon?

  • @jrgendalsmostray932
    @jrgendalsmostray9326 жыл бұрын

    If you manage to get some 1000 series aluminum alloy, it is even higher in aluminum than the 6000 series extruded alu you have there, although I doubt you will be able to tell the difference in the final aluminum bronze casting

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good plan. I don’t know exactly which alloys I use because I get what I can get.

  • @73superglide62
    @73superglide626 жыл бұрын

    SWWET GOLD

  • @watahyahknow
    @watahyahknow6 жыл бұрын

    i wonder if you can turn the tank upside down and coil copper line around the furnace to vaporize the liquid propane another option might be to use two propane bottles , that way you can spread the load over the two bottles and maibe not have enough evaporation of the liquid propane to freeze the bottles up

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t know where to begin making that but it sounds cool

  • @watahyahknow

    @watahyahknow

    6 жыл бұрын

    its how they do it in hot airbaloons one tank right way up for the pilot flames and the rest upside down for the hot burn , those burners shoot 2 meter high flames kzread.info/dash/bejne/aa54qNannLjNf6g.html

  • @ronyerke9250
    @ronyerke92506 жыл бұрын

    A readily available (purity unknown to me) source of zinc if you want it, is wheel weights. I saw a video on how to identify the 3 major kinds of metals (lead, zinc, & steel) used in wheel weights. Manufacturers are moving away from lead for environmental quality reasons. Have you thought of using a different dunk tank for your muffin tin? Big box stores around here sell 2 sizes of plastic mixing pans (for tile grouting and the like). The smaller one costs about $15 and is probably big enough (24 × 18 x 6 inches, or 61 x 47 x 17 millimeters) to immerse your entire muffin tin horizontally. Just put a few small stones, bottle caps, or finished ingots in the bottom to prevent melting from direct contact. I'm not sure if that will warp your muffin tin, but I'm curious to see. Keep up the fun, & GBY.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I hadn’t thought of that, I just use my old bucket. I’ll look into that, thanks

  • @ronyerke9250

    @ronyerke9250

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yw. It also makes a pretty good tote to store your stuff all in the same place on the same shelf.

  • @ronyerke9250

    @ronyerke9250

    6 жыл бұрын

    If you go with a big bucket of water to keep your propane tank warm, you might also want to get a submersible bathtub heater to keep the water warm. The pet store ones for fish tanks are generally inside glass tubes, so probably not so good. Health products stores sell kinds made for keeping bath water warm for elderly people. Some places like Tractor Supply Co. (TSC) sell stock tank heaters so livestock drinking water doesn't freeze. There are quite a few options to choose from. You could also try insulating your tank with a tarp and some beanbag chair styrofoam pellets, and duck tape: "the handyman's secret weapon", according to Red Green. (DON'T do that last 1, it's a dumb idea.)

  • @SirRag3Alot
    @SirRag3Alot6 жыл бұрын

    Are you able to use butane instead of propane for the burner or does it have to be propane?

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    It probably depends on the burner design, and you would need a lot of butane

  • @NOBOX7
    @NOBOX74 жыл бұрын

    LOL your hilarious brother , subed

  • @tayyebmujtaba2520
    @tayyebmujtaba25206 жыл бұрын

    Paul's a brass guy, confirmed. ;)

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bronze ftw ;)

  • @simpleman806
    @simpleman8066 жыл бұрын

    What pressure are you running your propane at? Don't remember you mentioning it

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don’t have a regulator so I don’t know exactly. It’s pretty high on the range of adjustment, and the thing goes 0-30 psi so it’s probably somewhere around 25psi or so

  • @simpleman806

    @simpleman806

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul's Garage I remember reading something a while back and 60psi is coming back to me on what people was running their smelters at

  • @erustownsend9790
    @erustownsend97905 жыл бұрын

    Aluminum cans are an alloy, generally only the tabs are pure

  • @ChristCenteredIronworks
    @ChristCenteredIronworks6 жыл бұрын

    Dude love the video !!! Especially the chuck Norris part lol

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Aluminum bronze truly is the chuck Norris of copper alloys

  • @pamcolechadwell1302
    @pamcolechadwell13025 жыл бұрын

    I just wanted to make a small kiln so I could fire my precious metal clays for my handmade jewelry. I think this is a little bit to hot for my clay, I don't want to melt it just burn the organics off then turn into jewelry!

  • @Error-eb9gv
    @Error-eb9gv6 жыл бұрын

    Is propane expensive to use for melting metal?

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    A tank is expensive but refills aren’t too bad. I think it’s roughly equivalent in price to using lump charcoal.

  • @Error-eb9gv

    @Error-eb9gv

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul's Garage thanks! My budget is pretty low for these hobbies but wood seems pretty limited in its abilities.

  • @frankvillani9491

    @frankvillani9491

    6 жыл бұрын

    Use coal! It burns way hotter than charcoal and propane with a blower, and you can get 40lbs at tractor supply for 6$. Ine bag last about a month of excessive burning! If you get tractor supply coal, get but coal!

  • @Error-eb9gv

    @Error-eb9gv

    6 жыл бұрын

    Frank Villani I'll check it out next time I go into town, it's about 80 miles away so I don't go often. But wouldn't you need a much sturdier furnace for coal since with forced air you can melt steel? What would you use to make the furnace?

  • @Error-eb9gv

    @Error-eb9gv

    6 жыл бұрын

    Would love to try casting a copper sword and hammer it out to harden it so it holds an edge better, could always melt it back down if it doesn't work out.

  • @TheNullreaper
    @TheNullreaper6 жыл бұрын

    Don't think you'll want to keep slamming your crucible around. Mine started falling apart doing that.

  • @bexpi7100
    @bexpi71006 жыл бұрын

    you done forgot to link the website for the tin and zinc

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    D'OH!!! thanks for letting me know

  • @Makercise

    @Makercise

    6 жыл бұрын

    bexpi www.rotometals.com/tin-ingot-99-9-pure/

  • @robertgibson88
    @robertgibson886 жыл бұрын

    use a heating pad for the tank ,and wasn't the fire brick made of silicon so use the dust to make your metals...;-)

  • @danhess547
    @danhess5474 жыл бұрын

    mill the top of one of those ingots see wats inside,

  • @THE-BIG-JP-REILS
    @THE-BIG-JP-REILS6 жыл бұрын

    If you do some stuff with copper, we could call you Cap’n Copper Beard

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Haha my beard is pretty close to copper color already...

  • @MrAndrew990
    @MrAndrew9906 жыл бұрын

    Also get 2 propane tank so you can just hook up the other one once it freezes.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think what folks do is just use bigger tanks. But swapping is an option too.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I could try both, i've just been using grill tanks since i have them around (for the grill)

  • @MrAndrew990

    @MrAndrew990

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's maybe 30 seconds max. So the amount of heat loss would be minimal

  • @bradthegiant
    @bradthegiant6 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say, this one looks way more dependable then the old one. I like the look too. Now make a PokeBall

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    This one works WAY better for sure. A pokeball out of bronze? am i trying to kill the thing when i hit it? :D

  • @bradthegiant

    @bradthegiant

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul's Garage maybe you are! If it's a dragon type, do you really want it to live?

  • @Romer-rh2nv
    @Romer-rh2nv5 жыл бұрын

    Nice Video! Please get a new respirator .

  • @turbojoe22
    @turbojoe226 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to put the tin ingot link in the description lol

  • @ColonelRPG

    @ColonelRPG

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    D'OH

  • @Makercise

    @Makercise

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Petroski www.rotometals.com/tin-ingot-99-9-pure/

  • @frankvillani9491
    @frankvillani94916 жыл бұрын

    Quick question. Does anyone else melt metal in a charcoal foundry, but instead of charcoal you use coal? I do and it melts steel when it’s on full power, I highly recommend it!

  • @rcpi9336

    @rcpi9336

    6 жыл бұрын

    That sounds pretty dange... I mean AWESOME

  • @brandonfrancey5592

    @brandonfrancey5592

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well the only way I can get any coal is to be a shitty person and wait for Santa to deliver some for me once a year.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I tried to find coal to do that exact thing, but i couldn't find a local source that would sell in small quantities. an hour drive wasn't in the schedule either :(. I'd like to try it though. I know old commercial iron works generally used coal for that reason.

  • @frankvillani9491

    @frankvillani9491

    6 жыл бұрын

    RC pi yeah! It’s incredibly efficient though! I can buy 40lbs of coal for 6 dollars and that will last me about a month of melting every weekend for hours straight! I designed it for charcoal but I used coal instead! I am 12 and built it myself! I take proper safety precautions though like a welder apron, welder gloves, fireproof arm sleeves and a full face shield! Bought all the safety equipment for cheap at harbor freight and it has protected me from molten steel and aluminum many times!

  • @frankvillani9491

    @frankvillani9491

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tractor supply sells it real cheap! I recommend taking a drive to get a few bags! It will last you months and will burn way hotter than propane when given a high power air source like a cheap shop vac!

  • @mrbutter8770
    @mrbutter87706 жыл бұрын

    That lid always scares me, it always seems like it would slip out of the vise grips although it won’t...

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    They’re on pretty tight, plus the lid is fairly light. Much lighter than you would think for bricks and steel.

  • @RedsnowHD
    @RedsnowHD6 жыл бұрын

    ever thought about making a electric foundry?

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I’ve thought about it yeah, but I haven’t dived into that type of project yet. I was thinking maybe an induction furnace would be cool, different from a traditional resistance-heat kind of furnace

  • @RedsnowHD

    @RedsnowHD

    6 жыл бұрын

    Paul's Garage resistance foundrys are easier and way cheaper to build, an induction foundry is extremly expensive and to build one you need good knowledge in electronics. But jeah induction would heat the metal in 10 minutes to liquid

  • @ronyerke9250
    @ronyerke92506 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen the video by Tito4re called Making 5 Pound Ingots From Scrap? (8-15-2016) He's got a crucible tool a lot like yours, and a 3-section furnace. (Excluding the burner)

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I’ve seen his videos. His crucible tong thing is the one I patterned mine after. Very simple, and effective

  • @ronyerke9250

    @ronyerke9250

    6 жыл бұрын

    :-)

  • @thecrudelab3204
    @thecrudelab32046 жыл бұрын

    lol im on a quest to make every element except the radioactive ones on the periodic table.

  • @HaLo2FrEeEk
    @HaLo2FrEeEk6 жыл бұрын

    I'm a huge advocate of forced air burners, but with copper wouldn't the trade-off be overshooting the additional air, going past neutral and into oxidizing? The danger is oxygen rapidly attacks molten copper. Personally, with copper, I'll probably try to run as rich a flame as can manage to melt the metal. I've only ever done aluminum, but I've done a crap ton of research on copper and bronze/brass. The only thing holding me back is myself at this point...

  • @fireandcopper
    @fireandcopper6 жыл бұрын

    Sodium carbonate, borax fluxes make a world of difference

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have some, I was just in a rush at pour time so I skipped the borax

  • @VerifyVeracity
    @VerifyVeracity5 жыл бұрын

    nice video, but could you make you notations last longer so I don't have to go back & pause the video, I guess I'm a slower reader than most. :) Thanks

  • @CPUDOCTHE1
    @CPUDOCTHE16 жыл бұрын

    Can you say 100 lb propane tank? If that is not an option, perhaps you could get another 20 lb tank and swap between the two when one cools down. Or get a big tank of room temperature water and immerse the tank in the water. Obviously hot water would be better, but some would complain that it is dangerous.

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think hot water tank is in my future. I already have the grill sized tanks (because of my grill).

  • @CPUDOCTHE1

    @CPUDOCTHE1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I have 2 grill size tanks and bought two 100 b tanks too. If you are not in a hurry, you can find them cheap ($40-$50). I even changed the connector on my grill when I ran out of 20 lb propane and hooked ti to my 100 lb tank.

  • @juancarlosmunoz7177
    @juancarlosmunoz71774 жыл бұрын

    Paul, did anybody ever told you that you hardly ever talk in your videos?

  • @badsantaclaus4522
    @badsantaclaus45226 жыл бұрын

    Make a belt buckle out of aluminum bronze. I swear your numbers have jump before you know it will be over 10K Thanks Enjoyed

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    An aluminum bronze belt buckle would be amazing!

  • @darktideryezing
    @darktideryezing5 жыл бұрын

    @0:36 - Spoiler of the spoiler - It's not fine

  • @MrAndrew990
    @MrAndrew9906 жыл бұрын

    Cut your cupcake tin in 2/3 so you can just dump the whole thing into the bucket

  • @god910
    @god9104 жыл бұрын

    I love my forced air burner. Doooooo eeeeeeeeet.

  • @TheShepherd2305
    @TheShepherd23056 жыл бұрын

    ok, I know this vid is a little old and you may not check the comments but whats with the mushroom cloud and the monkey... I'm too lazy to read what you wrote at the end so if its there...I'm lazy...also, do you play Magic...you seem like the kind of person that would.

  • @juandartyy
    @juandartyy Жыл бұрын

    6:52

  • @thecrudelab3204
    @thecrudelab32046 жыл бұрын

    + I KNOW HOW TO MAKE ELEMENTAL SILICON!!!

  • @T1G3R009
    @T1G3R0096 жыл бұрын

    i want that chocolate muffin !

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    It’s bad for your teeth, though

  • @al9094
    @al90946 жыл бұрын

    I wish you would leave the the writing on the screen longer ....rrr... By the time i see it it's just a yellow strip. And i can't rewind.so help me out ok.good like the rest well most ok all but the speed reading.

  • @thecrudelab3204
    @thecrudelab32046 жыл бұрын

    AND EVERYTHING I SAY IS REPEATING...

  • @thecrudelab3204
    @thecrudelab32046 жыл бұрын

    Oh please Maganize is easy to make

  • @gramursowanfaborden5820

    @gramursowanfaborden5820

    5 жыл бұрын

    easier than spelling apparently.

  • @BUSTRCHERRI

    @BUSTRCHERRI

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @NOBOX7
    @NOBOX74 жыл бұрын

    Get ahold of me i sell burners that can melt copper in 5 minutes using waste oil or propane or any fuel you can get . I also have videos that show how i build them so im not tryna shake you down

  • @2LateIWon
    @2LateIWon6 жыл бұрын

    Just use the burner to heat the tank back up.........................JUST KIDDING LOL (I thought this would be your kind of humor) Cool stuff isnt it fun to be a grown-up we still play but our toys are more dangerous LOL

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    You know i've alwasy wanted to accidentally launch myself into orbit using a giant explosion... Grown up stuff is WAY more fun, you're right. When i was a kid i had a small toy hammer made of pine. Now i have a welder. MUCH better!

  • @mindofmadness5593

    @mindofmadness5593

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nah. Why waste the propane when you can set your tank in a BBQ grill and light IT to keep the tank warm?

  • @ronyerke9250

    @ronyerke9250

    6 жыл бұрын

    There are warming pads made for starting seeds growing in gardening shops, that don't get especially hot. One of these or a plain old electric blanket might be enough to keep your tank from freezing. Perhaps a heat lamp. Is that about the same as direct sunlight? I think a better solution would be to use forced air for a more efficient burn, so you can slow down fuel flow. Perhaps a combination is best, but IDK enough about that.

  • @BUSTRCHERRI

    @BUSTRCHERRI

    5 жыл бұрын

    We use our torches to heat up the bottle all the time. Just did it today as a matter of fact. If someone says you'll blow up they are sadly mistaken. Besides that it's just the lower parent of the bottle that's frosty anyways so you're not actually heating the regulators.

  • @user-el3jx9rp9v
    @user-el3jx9rp9v Жыл бұрын

    بكام

  • @frede7410
    @frede74106 жыл бұрын

    Post 1985 pennies

  • @LOGDOG131
    @LOGDOG1316 жыл бұрын

    Made some copper mini muffins and they all stuck in the tray lol at least I know for next time

  • @PaulsGarage

    @PaulsGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    I ruined a muffin pan my first try making copper muffins, so I understand

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