They said Macaulay didn't stay in Michael's room.... He did. He admits that he stayed in the room with Michael. Get your facts right.

@sandysunrise9618

5 жыл бұрын

"What deeply saddens me is that no one wants to hear the opposing view. Whether you believe the accusers or not, this has been one-sided. It worries me that a person when alive is found INNOCENT, then once deceased, is again judged as guilty, even without having an opportunity for a rebuttal. Fair and balanced? I think not. Micheal is dead, and the media seems to want to suppress ALL FACTS and ignore anyone else trying to refute these accusations. Interesting that people want Michael to be guilty so badly? WHY IS THAT? He's been under heavy investigation by the FBI, DEA, LAPD for over ten years, had his home raided twice, hotel room raids numerous times and had 14 laptops confiscated. MICHAEL JACKSON WAS FOUND COMPLETELY INNOCENT!!! Please do further research of the documentation done by expert Govermental officials for over a decade. More real TRUTH will be coming out!!! Stay tuned. RIP sweet Michael!!!"

@marienatalie_1438

5 жыл бұрын

They did stay in his room together with his siblings..but their parents are free to come in and out Michaels room anytime they want. According to Mac's father.

“I’ve never seen anyone this invested in a story without facts” _John Ziegler about Dan Reed “Documentaries do not have to comply with any journalistic standards” _ Beat the press (no pun intended) Sad times folks.

@christhelebienaime9045

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck the press ,Michael.is the best all Mj 's fans we will continue to support his legacy and his music for ever, facts don't lie.truth will come out, Michael always win

What Callie said. Hands down. That they could be looking for money AND it could be true. I watched the full doc last night and have been perusing KZread videos trying to find SOMEONE to say just that. It's not (no musical pun intended) black or white in cases like these. Based off of what they have seen in movies and crime dramas, people assume they know what child sexual abuse is like! IF (and I'm not saying that I believe one way or another) what Wade and James are saying is true...it does appear that they genuinely loved MJ. They understood, too, the fame and what he could do for their lives. They were also children at the time. Abusers do "groom" and "train" their victims to respond in certain ways that would protect the abuser. Maybe it didn't happen, maybe it did. But it's not just "pure, innocent" people that are abused. People are multifaceted...but it does not make them any less a victim.

Cori is not defending MJ anymore...

@marmary5555

5 жыл бұрын

But he isn't saying that Michael Jackson was a pedophile. He knows MJ is innocent.

@ajrwilde14

5 жыл бұрын

Corey was probably paid off years ago.

@mittao86

5 жыл бұрын

Verbs describe us He not defending him because he is making his own documentary, he is standing between and think both off them should have voice. How will his own documentary look if he accuse someone and his friend is a pedo? Like he say, when he was with MJ nothing happen and he ask other kids and those kids say the same.

@blackmore4

5 жыл бұрын

@@ajrwilde14 _"Paid off"?_ What else? The 'Illuminati'? The more stridently the Jackson camp/fans deny even the *possibility* of his guilt, the more they come across as delusional conspiracy theorists.

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

Western history is full of brilliant pedophiles....

If Michael Jackson wasn’t such a pop culture icon, and if his music didn’t make such an impact to everyone like the song ‘Heal the world’ People wouldn’t of cared about calling him a pedophile. He’s done all this Goodness, and “showing the love” to everyone it’s blinded all of you to accepting that he has done terrible things. Im sure you would join the ban wagon on accusing a random bloke in the street for being a pedophile, but because he’s “Michael Jackson” he gets a pass??? Yes I am a missive fan of his music, but no way will I defend what he’s done or being accused of, walking on thin ice defending a man who spends time alone with underage kids behind closed doors.. -Come at me MJ fans I’m ready to hear your defensive bullshit-

@matthewbanks1899

5 жыл бұрын

Yo...... all you have to do, is show Me the abuse...... prove it. If u cannot provide evidence, than shut up. Or take the word of someone who claims to have no issue lying under oath. This isn’t about justice because u can’t get justice on a dead man. The only Thing left to receive is Airtime And money for interviews and documentaries..... at this point your opinion doesn’t matter and he was proven innocent. Bring some evidence

@MPCONZ

5 жыл бұрын

Matthew Banks lol I knew I’d piss one of you MJ fans off

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

Officer I want to report my Neighbor....Why....Well he's at least 35 and he is sleeping and bathing with little boys 7 - 10 years old....were on the way...wait ..is he the King of Pop...He is...Oh..well it's perfectly natural he likes to spoon with children...and he is never aroused by them...relax and listen to Thriller…

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

MJ thrilled us.....it appears now he was very bad...extremely dangerous and ultimately invincible in the courtroom...a smooth criminal.

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

MJ fans...Complete this sentence..... 34 year old man "insert name" slept for a week with a friends 7 year old boy and 30 days straight with a neighbours 12 year old boy..........insert name then call the police immediately...if it's your name... turn yourself in.…

I think this was a masterpiece documentary no matter what you believe. But I also believe their recounts rang true not because of the great documentary but because they seemed to be telling the truth. This film made me to a 180

@242shai

5 жыл бұрын

Because they "SEEMED" to be telling the truth? It was masterful lying and manipulation at it's finest, is what is was. Hear this. Robson claimed Micheal told him they would go to jail and lose their careers if anyone ever found out right? Yet he also said he never thought/realized that they were doing anything wrong? Here's my question to you....do you know of ANYONE, including a small toddler whose capable of understanding, that would think something isn't wrong, if it's something you can go to jail for? These guys were prepared, and they delivered their "story" with accuracy! The guy Robson is a self proclaimed "Master of Deception"! Even his own mother spoke about how well he can lie. Smh. Look it up. I beg you to not just watch an inflammatory documentary that was one sided, but do your research on these two guys. Also do your research on the financial problems that affected BOTH of them. They had plenty of motive to lie. They said this was not about money, yet they BOTH sued Michael's estate for MILLIONS and the judge threw their cases out. Then afterward, go and check the mountains of evidence that prove Michael's innocence, not once but TWICE! Look up the countersuits where Michael filed for defamation and won. Look up the particulars and the EVIDENCE in all the cases. Just because he may have not been what we considered "normal", it doesn't make him a criminal. The ONLY people that were groomed is the two accusers in this so called "documentary". They were groomed to lie and manipulate the public. When since a person's account of something becomes FACTS? Especially when you're only presented with a one-sided account. If we think, removing the "human emotion" and our innate ability to automatically feel sorry for someone who is perceived to be a victim, then you'll see that their stories begin to fall apart.

@hrabmv

5 жыл бұрын

@@242shai who else beeing famous was ever accused of child abuse?? lots of people are famous. and ask yourself how many adults sleep and hang out with other peoples children.....and why so many black families deal with child abuse??

@Richard-ju5vo

5 жыл бұрын

Dan Reed has won a Bafta I found out. 2015

First intelligent conversation I've seen on KZread about the documentary. Particularly her point that just because other children who spent time with Michael weren't abused, doesn't mean Wade and James weren't. If their accounts are true, it seems clear that Michael had something of a romantic and maybe even monogamous relationship with boys. Hence the heavy level of grooming that led them to defend him for so long. So yes he could have been an abuser without abusing every boy who came to Neverland.

@fbaallied

5 жыл бұрын

What was so special and wade and James, that deterred MJ from fondling the likes of Emmanuel Lewis, Macaulay Culkin, Cory Feldman, and Bred Barnes? Pedophiles exhibit a pattern of behavior and leave a trail of evidence, none of which the FBI or child protective authorities could track. So either MJ was this genius magician in chief who evaded a throughout FBI investigation, or the FBI was on that occasion, very lackluster.

@sledgehammer858

5 жыл бұрын

@@fbaallied If it is true I think he got away with it because he chose people who had that vulnerability factor, as most predators do. He chose people he could control more easily and who he could isolate from others. According to this version of events he was desperate not to be caught, so it makes complete sense to me that he didn't choose to abuse very famous kids.

@robcmore2004

10 күн бұрын

Which version of their story are you talking about? This is the just another example of sloppy journalism with zero balance or nobody looking at the actual facts

You guys are on tv and still.can't get your facts

People change their sympathy and behavior with the same quickness as their interest changes

LN is a prosecution side, now compare it with the accusers changing stories of their testimonies of their ongoing civil suit against the Jackson Estate they are suing. Those guys also had the opportunity not only to sue while Jackson was alive but had 2 specic occasions in 1993 ad 2005 to come forward and if what they say is true, put an alleged child molester in jail. Instead they defended him (Robson as an adult even in court under cross examination). Just after Jacksons death and money problems, they are telling their story with many inconsistencies and proven lies. I see credibility issues and have my doubts. Jacksons lived an unique life and was an unique person in unique circumstances including Sneddon, a judical system which failed him (even though acquitted in 2005 , but with a weak case like this no other person would have dragged to court) and the money/sensational hungry mass media operating without journalistic integrity . You cannot compare the allegations (Chandler, Arvizo, and now those guys) 1:1 with the neighbour Joe or Caren. Makes no sense to me. He was a walking 1billion fortune and human. Michaels crime was being too nice.

Does anyone know if these guys took a polygraph and did they pass?

a child abuse victim had some "creepy looking stuff" online? wow. no kidding. it seems to me that people have a very hard time separating the private mj from the music he created. you can be an amazing artist and still be a disgusting person.

Micheal Jackson should of just gotten ordained...the church celebrated that stuff

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

Amen...Dan Reed's new documentary...Leaving Christendom....

@kevinerose

5 жыл бұрын

Or school teacher. Of all professions, the school teacher is most often the biggest offender in raping children.

I’m so confused my life is a lie was he kind or mean why did I find this oof I’m gonna cry

Non believers please open your eyes , support Wade and James and all the others .

Im so confused

Some boys and mothers made a lot of money out of this and still are making money. The similarity is not strange as even I know what the first accusations were.

Oh dear oh dear, imagine getting a panel of 4 who all have the same viewpoint 🤦‍♂️As ever, none have done any research about either the "documentary" or the case that the guys have filed, in fact the "documentary" tells a very different story to that of the civil case, how is that possible 🤦‍♂️ What is also interesting is Michael Jackson is dead and was dead when both these men accused him, so he's never been able to deny the claims. What is truly hilarious is that when the MJ musical opened in the U.S and the U.K the media were obsessed and crying about the fact the allegations are covered, by the very same logic these panelists are using, why are there counter parts even talking about about the allegations in relation to the Musical, its not a documentary its a musical loosely based on rehearsals of the Dangerous world tour in 1992. As ever, I'm not surprised by the usual double standards applied here.

They're still trying to ruin his name and get money from a dead man - It's sickening, and needs to stop. Those 2 liars should be thrown in jail

@jankification9335

5 жыл бұрын

You're an uneducated shill The FBI investigated him for a decade and found nothing - Searched through everything he had, his phone calls were always listened too, and yet nothing anywhere that gave a single bit of proof towards him molesting children, or having anything sexual with underaged children was found. The 2 men in the documentary are known liars who have gone back and forth on their stance, and have tried to gain money from him micheal many times.

@marmary5555

5 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Almquist you are ill informed about this case. Actually, Michael Jackson was trialed for the 1993 situation as well in 2005 and was found innocent on all charges.

@Miikael888

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Almquist burn in Hell you know nothing about MJ

@SynphamyMusic

5 жыл бұрын

@@truushogendoorn3458 neither do you.... but at least there are tons of court documents and fbi/police files publicly available online that allow us to see that these two are lying.

@bulletprooftwomoons1033

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Almquist if you read transcripts of the settlement it was the estates behalf and Micheal didn’t want to do it

Of course there stories would be similar if they know each other, that means nothing. It's hard to believe a grown man at 21 or 22 would worry about going to jail for rest of his life for being a victim of abuse. I'm not sure if he has it in him to abuse. Its a tough one. I would like to see the wedding ring in documentary, examined and traced back to seller. This is the kind of hard evidence we need.

@aerdeics992

5 жыл бұрын

They LOVED him.

I got halfway through the documentary and had to turn it off. There are some things I just don't need clogging my cerebrospinal fluid.

My best friend is a civil attorney. After watching this doc, she told me that the with preponderance of circumstantial evidence that was presented & the testimony of the victims & their families, they would likely win a civil suit. I hope they get another chance.

I'm done with the he say, she say stuff. We need proof! A 10+ year investigation vs what two known liars say??? I think I'll side with the FBI on this one.

@nonathecat8131

5 жыл бұрын

Stafford Coles i think he was a pedo

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

"There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boy’s house with Chandler’s mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler’s father’s house. The parents were divorced." - Vanity Fair...Any adults here slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old....raise your hand and turn yourself in.…

@annagitana1

5 жыл бұрын

You should ask yourself why you think it's okay that a fully grown man dated and slept in the same bed in a secret, alarmed chamber with a string of unrelated, prepubescent boys, plying them and their parents with expensive gifts and extravagant trips (grooming), cuddling and holding hands like lovers at premieres and dinner dates, dropping them unceremoniously once they hit puberty. Anyone who doesn't realize he was a classic pedophile is either blinded by his fame or is criminally stupid.

Ok.

I can't watch this without laughing hysterically. The pics of Michael Jackson with the little boys are hilarious😂

@ajrwilde14

5 жыл бұрын

F U

@mazz9761

5 жыл бұрын

@@ajrwilde14 i agree

@community-fusionnetwork4131

5 жыл бұрын

@@fortynine3225 You mean the same way Trump and the Clintons are in jail, right?

@aerdeics992

5 жыл бұрын

Hilarious In what way?

I can't believ it he did that😢😭😭😭

@aerdeics992

5 жыл бұрын

SHANA prophitius I do.

Culkin and Feldman were stars with money they didn't fit Jackson's MO. Feldman was also already a teenager

Why do people want to believe this dirt..

Of course Michael didn’t abuse celeb. boys. Only unknown boys who came from broken homes and or poor😡

So why are some people doubting these guys? What are these doubts about? Check out the link and comment kzread.info/dash/bejne/pJuHxLWopK3Nhbw.html

This video title needs the word "British" in front of it.

You wanna know why all this shit keeps getting brought up look at Michael’s bank account that’ll tell you every answer you need to know

All documentaries are one sided. Go to film school. Dudes guilty, but this conversation is dumb.

I don’t think it matters anymore. I saw the documentary and Michael showed through as beautiful as ever. He never hurt anyone. I still listen to his music . I believe that he never abused anyone so I can hear the energy and his magic in those songs. I’m so glad I do not have the problem of believing otherwise.

@hrabmv

5 жыл бұрын

lol its good to be stupid..life looks nicer

@lindseymays144

5 жыл бұрын

Hey U, You’re openly admitting your willful ignorance and the fact that you cant look at things objectively because it would be too painful for you. You’re exactly like a religious zealot that twists their mind into a pretzel trying to rationalize and explain away all thd contradictions of god, religion and the Bible to keep their faith intact.

@charlottebrazil6967

4 жыл бұрын

Micheal is a legend and these boys have been caught in so many lyes rip mj

The facts are, all the money in the world to gain from this exposure does not exclude the facts: 1. Michael Jackson's oddity and obsession was ignored. rationalized away. 2. He built his entire world around his "attraction" to children. 3. He isolated himself only (majority) with chikdren. 4. He isolated himself and the children alone with himself and them. Let me be clear: sleep overs. In his bed. 5. A paedophile is usually abused child molested and trapped as a youth. I do NOT rule this out, as a matter of fact its quite typical of greedy adults getting ahead by joining anti-holy groups. Then, hyptnozing away to hide ritual sales and use of children in Hollywood and Music with children. 6. He may have prided himself as not being a predator and rationalized away his predator nature to children. 6. Men are sexual creatures, especially when revered as deities in society. The nature is to procreate because they feel better. 7. I recognize the aforementioned and believe Michaels denial as a child predator or attraction to children to great extents was to unhealthy degrees to endanger children and adults (and it is attraction). 8. From studying all that is available, I do not believe Michael realized he was a child predator and attracted only to children to great extent. For, if he was to admit it, would remove deity status even he had to upkeep for "show". 9. I believe adult males that are sexual in nature as a general rule, abused and conditioned to be a deity for the alpha abuser and abused and conditioned to be submissive to the alpha adults cruelty...all while forced to a "role" "image" or else...by strong alpha scary adults kept him in a submissive child like state. 10. Someone obsessed with reading shared there is a theory that when a persons voice acts like a child when older, its because of the trauma as a child stuck him in that age to avoid more trauma. This theory, I agree with, not only with child predators but any any person with trauma young. So, consider this theory when applying to this case. 11. I believe it is possible, he never intended to be or hurt a child sexually. But, he could not relate or be attracted to normal adult relationships...only really children. But, now, add the piece of a mans sexual needs and only bonding with children...he created the breeding ground for it to happen. 11. Once confronted with that sexual need,, the predators know which ones they can shut up...12. Two children came forward as adults to claim Michael Jackson was sexually abusing them. 13. One had, "shady" untrustworthy integrity, atypical of victims of abuse acting out. One more in control compelled to help his truth be validated. 14. If abused why not financially gain as their lives will forever be inconsolable, as indicated by persistence to gain truth Do you know how much damage powerful deity rich people hurt true victims to preserve the "delusion" of deity over all others does to victims? 15. Now, the lethal blow to doubt of the victims: How dare you doubt and protect a predator and scorn and destroy a victim and claims when you have zero cases of adults besties living with those cchildren and not naturally living and socializing and bedding sleep overs with adult-indicating child predator...denied or not...doesnt matter? Unless your a satanic cult protector and defender ofnot letting truth be evident which are compelled at youth age to believe in wholeheartedly sin against children feeds the devotion to their deity lucifer, you cannot deny the child predator only relates to children. Now, add a mix of alcohol, drugs, furthering boundary crossing and rationalizing away actions under the influence and being a grown man with sexual needs. So, knock offyour abusing those that try to share the truth and help you see, money and deitizing a person is always going to hurt those that buy into deitizing any human being. Let victims gain off the pain of their truth. No amount of financial gain will ever heal the damage done to any victim of any evil. Now, to find forgiveness in being a victim? Know this, bullies and evil were victims first. Then know the truth no one wants you to know exists because its unseen like wifi: Ephesians 6:10-13. Put on all the armor and protection of Our Hallowed Father in Heaven as WE DO NOT FIGHT THE PEOPLE OF FLESH AND BLOOD. WE FIGHT THE POWERFUL UNSEEN RULERS OF THIS WORLD, who sock puppet everyone initiated into a group, or sock puppet unrepented ones. There is only one way free. You only have ONE powerful enough to help you conquer them. "With the faith of a mustard seed, you can move mountains, Do HIS wonders and Even more than His wonders. Do not worry about all the attacks and haters comments. Its not them. Its sock puppeted unseen evil trying to stop the evil secrets so evil breeds and breeds on your pain, fear. and lies. Forget all around you. If you truly want to heal from abuses, tell your truth, own it and focus only on your best friend and only true friend, Our Hallowed Father in Heaven. Hes got your back. For anyone who feels He turned His back on you? He didnt. If we werent duped to deitize image instead of Him...your little gut feeling maybe you would have heard...But, its too dulled by the brilliance of star and you get duped and sucked into the evil unseen trap. You will be more than ok if you focus on Him instead of the unseen tearing you down.

Jackson klan help to creat this image of peter pan and closing eyes what he did . It is unreal but is true

@davidchaplin2585

5 жыл бұрын

all allegations including this one are highly suspect and I'm not a fan

It's more a mockumentary...than a documentary. Why you want to believe lyers repeatedly...??? All they want is money...!!!

I don’t think we need to judge..they are just telling their stories

@christinethadisonprice3514

5 жыл бұрын

At what cost...shame on this system God sees it all...didnt the father of one of the other accuser off himself? Didn't that accuser send out a statement that my never did anything to him and didn't he stop talking to his parents for 10 years because they made him lie?

How did he have the time to do all of this supposed molesting. And how would a small child remember every detail of the molesting. It just seems like crap

@annlanders978

5 жыл бұрын

TRUE. They make it sound like Michael Jackson. had no life and no career and just spent all his time in the bedroom with little boys.

@hrabmv

5 жыл бұрын

you must be nuts if you were molsted you would remeber every fuking detsil for life!

@ilovetrannies100

5 жыл бұрын

hrabmv I was molested as a child by my uncle I don’t remember a lot of it I have blank spots in my memory. I don’t remember a lot of my childhood when he was around so don’t say anything about something you know nothing about

@hrabmv

5 жыл бұрын

@@ilovetrannies100 who says you tell truth dont BS here....MJ father molested them all so MJ went his dads footsteps thats clear and undeniable. if you dont remember that you ve been molested how do you know then??? now you think every molested child is like you and you are weird example

@ilovetrannies100

5 жыл бұрын

hrabmv I have memories but not in detail you stupid piece of shit

These people sound so sophisticated, but it takes less than 10 minutes to debunk those accusers. Either they’re lazy or in on the lie.

He was guilty

@furgellvanrabenswaay3483

5 жыл бұрын

Not

Y'all are blind who think otherwise! I loved him too..until this!!

I definitely can see how a grown man hanging out with little boys all the time looks sketchy, because it is. In this instance though, the two men come off as liars and opportunists in the film through their body language and choice of words. After all these years, especially testifying for him twice, knowing that other little boys could be potentially get molested, they now want to speak up after the man is dead? Really? These two don't have the money and the spotlight they were seeking through hanging out with Michael so now they'll take advantage of a dead man to gain their goals that they're too lazy to work for.

U poor boys men been abused by Jackson ban his music world wide strip him. Of his riches and fame. Normal people see the truth.

*These people in the panel are so vulnerable and easy to manipulate by a FILM. It's a FILM. It's not hard evidence or data.*

@gerrywhelan5761

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, people like these also believed that that some actor was beaten up and noose put around his neck as he went for a subway.😅😅😅

@charleswood7001

5 жыл бұрын

Kittens are awesome but you are deluded and blinkered. You don't know Jackson, you never met him, all you know is a carefully cultivated image. There is masses of evidence and only a fool could not put two and two together.

@annagitana1

5 жыл бұрын

The evidence and data was that he openly dated little boys and groomed them in front of the world. He slept with these unrelated boys in the same bed in a secret chamber rigged by alarms and cameras and he forbade any staff from entering while he was in there with these children. The question is, how stupid are you?

@gerrywhelan5761

5 жыл бұрын

@@annagitana1 Where is the proof? who says all that? disgruntled staff on the make?, selling lies for thousands?

@annagitana1

5 жыл бұрын

@gerry whelan, no. All of that is from actual police reports, court documents, and his own damn words. You need to research a bit more.

His accusers had years to come forward but never did. It’s as though they thought they had more chance of winning financial damages after he was dead. This lurid documentary is the result of his accusers failed lawsuits, which got kicked out of court because they didn’t have a shred of evidence, apart from their own dubious accusations. The only two people in the world who know the truth of the matter are this pair; everyone else is guessing. And like I said in a previous post just because someone believes something doesn’t mean it’s true. And one more thing, his accusers aren’t little boys they are grown men with their minds on a lottery style payout.

@annagitana1

5 жыл бұрын

It's not unusual at all for abuse victims to take years of ever to admit what happened. There's a lot of shame and fear involved.

@ubiq6348

5 жыл бұрын

annagitana1 cliche: the inference from that nonsense is that they’re telling the truth. It’s nothing more than a crude attempt to explain the delay - think about it - CLICHE. Widely used by tabloids and other liars to explain the inexplicable

@dorothyreid4946

5 жыл бұрын

TRUE WHY WAIT SO LONG MJ DEAD THE MOTHER AND FATHER DEAD LET THEM REST IN PEACE

beat the press you guy's need to do your home work. There's a lot lies going around don;t help it.

He's guilty..bottom line!

@TheFlowShow316

5 жыл бұрын

Show us actual hard evidence... money hungry trolls bottom line !!!

Going to the grave a new thing copy Safechuck

-Michael was found not guilty of all charges in 2005. One of the accusers, Wade Robson was actually the first witness on the stand at the trial. He was adamant that Michael never touched him. Safechuck had also testified as part of the 1993 investigation. In life both of these men defended Michael. Robson even attended his private funeral and did TV interviews and wrote articles defending him. At the time their stories changed, Robson's career was going downhill and he was rejected from the opportunity to choreograph the MJ One cirque du soleil show, whilst Safechuck was being sued. Their case was thrown out of court. -There are many provable lies and inconsistencies in the two men's stories. For example: - Safechuck alleged (and described in vivid detail) that abuse began in June 88 on the Bad Tour in Paris and continued at the 89 Grammys iN New York. But Michael did not attend the 89 Grammys, nor was the event in NY. The 88 Grammys, held in March Michael did perform at. Therefore the Grammys happened BEFORE the Bad Tour Paris leg, so unless Jackson had a time machine he could not remember ongoing abuse at the Grammys. Safechuck's own mother testified in 2016 that James slept in the bed with her and not with Jackson. -Safechuck alleged that MJ cut contact at puberty and yet they are photographed together at the HIStory music video set, a quick Google can verify this. Safechuck would have been around 17. -Safechuck claimed that Michael called him and begged him to testify for the 2005 trial. Apart from the fact that it is the judge only who decides who testifies, Safechuck was legally considered a non-entity since he had signed documents for the 1993 investigation where he stated no abuse occured. This meant that legally he could not testify in 2005 and Michael would have known it would be pointless to try to persuade him as he could never testify on the matter again by US law. -Wade Robson claimed that Michael's businesses MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures procured him as part of an organised grooming operation. Yet MJJ Ventures did not even exist at the time and Joy, his mother, testified that it was her who initiated contact with Jackson. She also testified that she was upset that Michael did not spend as more time on Wade and at one point cut contact with him for six months because Michael did not call Wade soon enough when he was on tour. -Wade's story changed so much that he was questioned about his memory, which he claimed 'evolved'. A description of being told to dispose of bloody underwear after anal rape was never disclosed as part of the court case but mentioned in the documentary. His versions of when the abuse began keep changing and are different in the documentary and the 2016 deposition. -Wade claimed that he was unable to work in the entertainment industry in any capacity from the time of 'realising the abuse' (2013) until 2017. Yet a quick search will reveal many projects he was involved with during the time including running his own dance workshops. The

No hard facts just he say she say where were these money hungry buns when he was alive and could speak 4 himself also the FBI did a 10 yr investigation and he was found not guilty

so they worship Michael, chase him, enjoy his friendship and money and things, and when that is over they turn against him and ask for more money....bloodsuckers

@christinethadisonprice3514

5 жыл бұрын

That's my thoughts also👌

@lunamilo2065

Жыл бұрын

You’re saying that you support child abuse. Gross.

@Mar-cb3ke

Жыл бұрын

@@lunamilo2065 really? stfu

A couple things - the argument that we are bearing witness assumes we are bearing witness to FACTS. While I understand the immediate cognitive & emotional response to watching and hearing something so horrific, there is a responsibility to research and back things up as fact -- at least those that can be. The alleged accusers & filmmaker state as fact that Culkin & Barnes were also abused and replaced them. Culkin & Barnes deny this -- so how is that not defaming or minimally warrant inclusion in the film? Joy Robson swore twice under oath that Wade went on the Grand Canyon trip & didn't stay alone with Jackson until '93. So is the panelist sure Wade spent so much time with Jackson or did what we just bore witness to change? Facts matter and somebody saying something does not make it fact, perjury is consequential. This film is no different than Roger Ales stating the loudest voice will be heard and believed. [I guess the truth and facts be damned]. I cannot scream "fire" in a crowded theater and site freedom of speech, but evidently b/c the panel had an inclination to already believe Jackson was guilty, the voices in the film are fact. No need for voices which could at least show mis-statements and mis-truths. So I can pick a dead person and create a narrative about them -- afterall can't defame the dead and now one sided 'bearing witness' is enough. SCARY TIMES! Life imitating Margaret Atwood's art. Neither the Right nor the Left have to live up to any standards when it concerns their pet causes. Very scary times when the 4th estate fans the very flames it should be helping to contain.

Zero evidence

@annagitana1

5 жыл бұрын

Really? I saw the evidence with my own eyes. He dated little boys and openly groomed them like pedophiles do. He admitted to sleeping in the same bed with them in a secret chamber that was rigged with alarms and cameras leading up to it. He allowed no staff to enter or go anywhere near the chamber when he was inside it with one of his prepubescent little boyfriends. When his house was raided an art book of naked boys was found there. That's all the evidence anyone with a brain needs. And if you can't see that God I hope you don't have children and never do.

@MrCorker2000

5 жыл бұрын

Are going to give evidence then ?

I believe them.

The movie is mainly for $$$. Seems that whenever someone gets to the top, someone wants to bring them down. Micheal wasn't perfect but i will never believe that he would hurt a child. Been a fan since he started and his death was a huge loss!! He is one of the best performers and humanitarians ever. I will always be a fan. Screw the Dirty Laundry. Them and Albert Goldman are vipers. I was molested at least 3 times and know the consequences. Micheal had more than his share of abuse alive and he doesn't need anymore.

@lucyhughes2425

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson was the all time, biggest abuser of $$$'s in every way possible. Bottom line, he died at the hands of medical doctors HE bought with $$$'s in the privacy of his own realm, because he could. I'm sure he paid them well, because fans paid him well. This is not a "Movie" it's a documentary, the years of footage is there. He chose 2 boys from as far away from home as he possibly could to bring home and "Mentor". Hmmm; both from half way around the world? He is by far one of the best performers, on stage, of all time, without a doubt, but that doesn't mean he was a humanitarian by any means. The "Star struck parents"; EQUALLY to blame, for their actions or NON ACTIONS; Completely inexcusable in every sense of parenting, as well as Jackson as a good human. Peace be with you.

@RandyR

5 жыл бұрын

@@lucyhughes2425 He did go a bit over board buying things for himself. He also gave millions to charities an those In need. In many ways, he an Elvis had many comparisons. His addiction to pain killers began when he got his hair burned. I will never believe that he hurt a child. First I partially blame the parents for allowing their children to live out a fantasy in Netherland. I am in constant pain but I said no to the opioids. The crap going on now of that piece of crap book on John Lennon by Goldman. Having had my childhood stolen from me, I can understand why Michael built Netherland. He was not perfect but who is?

@lucyhughes2425

5 жыл бұрын

@@RandyR He literally bought his own death. That's sad. I think giving millions to charities may sometimes make one feel as though they are paying back for their own ineptness. Volunteers, volunteer to help others, to a degree, to feel good about themselves. Hats off to you for the opioid refusal, you are brave and strong. I have witnessed it too far compound the initial problem. The parents were to be the FIRST responders on their child's behalf, by all means! I hate to know you are in pain. NO ONE is perfect, but we can be thankful we can live out our lives in privacy, without the world passing judgement on our every breath!

@RandyR

5 жыл бұрын

@@lucyhughes2425 I have 16 medical conditions an no cure for four of them. So I am doing what I can before I go home. We all have our burdens to bear. Staying clean an sober and trusting my Higher Power. He also gave me the abIlity to forgive the three guys who molested me, but took 30 years to do so. Watch my video Dealing with sexual abuse. Going to bed soon

Celui qui a mis avec moi la main dans le plat, c'est celui qui me livrera.

Totally agree with what panel said

these 2 guys are so cunning and dishonest, they're only after money and fame! they planned and staged this thing money plan at the very start

@blackmore4

5 жыл бұрын

Would you claw at "fame" as someone who had sex as a young boy with a middle-aged man who wore lipstick? And "the money"... do you not think that the wrongly convicted are entitled to money from the state? Do you not think that users of defective products should get money from companies? Do you not think that people discriminated against in the workplace should get money from their employers? And do you not think that victims of abuse are entitled to compensation from their abusers? What do you imagine is one of the prime incentives for Jackson's family and lawyers in silencing his accusers?

@andree824

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackmore4 - Well said.

Not a balanced panel -

My bf said... they cant be saying for money cuz he dead. Is he right or nah

@larkynria2223

5 жыл бұрын

Hannah Gamino I think they're still using his name to get people in and watch it though

5:52 the problem is, Miss Alphonse, that the amounts of _"false equivalencies"_ are staggering in this film. And it doesn't take a brain surgeon to counterbalance their very biased tales. All the facts are there and it will take less than 2 minutes to get the correct information.

@annagitana1

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is, everyone knew, back in the day, that Michael Jackson dated little boys. He picked children whose families were greedy and pimped them out. Or he picked kids from single moms or poorer families. Just like most pedophiles do. He then bought these little boys expensive gifts and took them on extravagant vacations, grooming them like peodphiles do. He took them to premiers and to dinner, cuddling and holding hands like lovers. We all saw it and knew it was wrong. He admitted to sleeping with these unrelated little boys in the same bed, in what we later discovered was a secret bedroom chamber, that had alarms and cameras leading up to it so he would never be surprised. When his home was raided, this innocent "Peter Pan" had an "art" book filled with naked boys. Not illegal but not a coincidence either. The boys he dated were all prepubescent. He cycled through them, dropping them for a younger model, once they hit puberty. Just like most pedophiles do. So you can point to any discrepancies you want. Anyone who can't see that he was a child molester is either blinded by his fame and talent or is just stupid.

@marmary5555

5 жыл бұрын

@@fortynine3225 they are easily manipulated by the propaganda and are absolutely clueless of what they are talking about.

Micheal Jackson was a sweetheart why would he do that I don’t know if that was real but that makes my heart hurt I live him and I have 3 records and he’s dead let him Rest In Peace for fuck sakes come on!! I hope this isn’t true even if it is I will always miss him..

Liars

The.truth.will.prevails in.due time Mj is innocent God knows well

@a5dr3

5 жыл бұрын

Your an idiot.

Michael Jackson created alot if smoke.

@fbaallied

5 жыл бұрын

But he never started the fire.

@freeworld88888

5 жыл бұрын

@@fbaallied where there is smoke, there fire.

@fbaallied

5 жыл бұрын

@@freeworld88888 This has no legal prcedences, whatsoever.

@freeworld88888

5 жыл бұрын

@@fbaallied He paid $20 millions to keep a boy to be quiet. I think.

@fbaallied

5 жыл бұрын

@@freeworld88888 that money NEVER prevented a criminal trial. His insurance company paid.

They come out now, because it is all about money!

@angelfiremimosa

5 жыл бұрын

Thats what jimmy saville said too

Appreciate this panels discussion. Agree with all said. I believe the 2 young men in the documentary.

Applehead. The Artist formerly known as Michael Jackson.

These lyers make me sick ...

Why should anything he did matter anymore he’s DEAD let him Rest In Peace. Ps. It’s not good to speak ill of the dead

@angelfiremimosa

5 жыл бұрын

Would you say that about jimmy saville too?

Mj did nothing

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

Everyone including MJ said they were in his bed....a lot...every night.... Michael has molested your mind.....when he had cerebral intercoure with you at a young age...that is not illegal.....now you love him...just like the kids who's pee pee he kissed.…

@mazz9761

5 жыл бұрын

This guy is lieing

@mazz9761

5 жыл бұрын

If mj did something wrong why would that guy say he likes mjs niece

@jra3677

5 жыл бұрын

@@mazz9761 Mom is racked with guilt cause she knows her son is now telling the truth... I believe her...

@angelfiremimosa

5 жыл бұрын

He was inappropriate with young boys

innocent

@angelfiremimosa

5 жыл бұрын

Guilty as sin. A smooth criminal. Very bad

@aerdeics992

5 жыл бұрын

gwengo osas U also were in the room and bed with them?

@gwengoosas8305

5 жыл бұрын

@@aerdeics992 i dont have to be in the room.to.look at the facs

jussie smollett

@annagitana1

5 жыл бұрын

Nope. There's a ton of evidence that this man was molesting kids. For fuck's sake we WTNESSED him dating and grooming little boys.

Mj is a good guy

@Poemwriter_Angelo

5 жыл бұрын

that used to be my opinion on him.

@mazz9761

5 жыл бұрын

@@Poemwriter_Angelo he told mj he liked his niece

Michael is innocent always and forever

I don’t think we need to judge..they are just telling their stories