MeatEater Podcast Ep. 478 | The American West

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Steven Rinella talks with Elliott West, Randall Williams, Brody Henderson, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.
How there are way more history PhDs now than there were before; talking about the dumb shit people do at Yellowstone National Park; when a fight over the last piece of fried chicken shuts down the interstate; a roaming bar in Northern Michigan for hire; how Steve invented an “old saying,” which goes, “a fresh set of eyes will always find more beans”; the Arkansas World Champion Squirrel Cook Off on September 23rd; how the origin of the word “shit” is old; the time when Dr. Randall reviewed the work of our esteemed guest; falling short on teaching American history; horses and disease; why you might call it the Last Indian War; Antietam; Elliott’s lifetime work, Continental Reckoning: The American West in the Age of Expansion; the greatest environmental transformation of the United States and making a new world; when citizenship is forced on you at gunpoint; the greater reconstruction and the great coincidence; humans’ long running obsession with gold; the 48ers; from hide hunter to candy salesman; and more.
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  • @slapneck77
    @slapneck777 ай бұрын

    I personally have a hard time reading books, but podcasts like this I can't stop listening to. Hope that you all keep doing these types of podcasts❤

  • @WideAwakeHuman

    @WideAwakeHuman

    6 ай бұрын

    Same - but I found out I love audiobooks and have “read” probably 40 books in the last year or so

  • @VonHanzee

    @VonHanzee

    5 ай бұрын

    Im willing to bet your vocabulary when you speak will increase ten fold if you read. But I get it, ummm and ahhh and literally's and like's, and " right" is the bread and butter of the corn syrup American brain.

  • @JessieB21
    @JessieB217 ай бұрын

    Love when Meateater talks about western history. We got the coolest mountain men stories too and would love to see them talk about that

  • @stevenchristelow2938

    @stevenchristelow2938

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed, I'm from the UK but the brief history of you're country is a fascinating one

  • @Rookieshot

    @Rookieshot

    7 ай бұрын

    You should read Steve's book; the American Buffalo. Super full of history

  • @StubbsMillingCo.

    @StubbsMillingCo.

    6 ай бұрын

    As one born and raised in South Carolina, the stories of the Appolachians and the early frontiers people from 1780-1820s that were no further than the Ozark. That’s the history that intrigues me. It’s all Revolution and Westward Expansion. I’d rather focus on the slow “artillery” hits of history that happened on the way through, over and around the Appilachian and Ozark Mountains.

  • @NYbasskid23

    @NYbasskid23

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @bryp88
    @bryp887 ай бұрын

    Steve, Brody, Randall and a guest should be the cast of the podcast 100% of the time. Love it when those guys get together.

  • @mrob3888
    @mrob38887 ай бұрын

    I was all in as soon as I saw the title. Rinella and anything old west/ mountainman. Even bigger history geek than me. Love it

  • @donetalkN
    @donetalkN7 ай бұрын

    I hope we can get another episode on the western expansion and the effect it had on native tribes this was an excellent episode! Thank you

  • @thirdiprodigy3579
    @thirdiprodigy35797 ай бұрын

    Was the most interesting podcast by far for me, I am Canadian & learned a lot about American history in just a short bit :)

  • @brummet85
    @brummet857 ай бұрын

    What an incredible interview. The expansion of the American West is such an under-told part of our VERY short history. Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @Young_Wild420
    @Young_Wild4207 ай бұрын

    Always a good feeling to see that notification from Meateater

  • @aaronisham9700

    @aaronisham9700

    7 ай бұрын

    definitely something I look forward to.

  • @timtollett8513
    @timtollett85137 ай бұрын

    What a fantastic podcast. Love our western history stories. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mynameisnotyours888
    @mynameisnotyours8887 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic y’all. So relevant so missing in our public schools.

  • @boilersfan64
    @boilersfan647 ай бұрын

    A fresh set of eyes will always find the prize

  • @chrismeister2554

    @chrismeister2554

    7 ай бұрын

    Underrated comment, I can only hope Steve picks up on this

  • @scottbuck9348

    @scottbuck9348

    7 ай бұрын

    That rolls off the tongue way better then Steve’s saying

  • @marksteblein5451

    @marksteblein5451

    5 ай бұрын

    ya but it was never about that.... the point is pole beans!

  • @claytonsharrard1900
    @claytonsharrard19007 ай бұрын

    Man I love this guy. So awesome to listen to this podcast again. Port Huron Michigan native right here. Getting for this hunt right around the bend.

  • @rabbitchaser101
    @rabbitchaser1017 ай бұрын

    Omgosh! Steve I'm 3/4 through Journal of a Trapper now! Picked it up in a thrift shop in Alaska. Great book!

  • @pursueadventure
    @pursueadventure7 ай бұрын

    "You'd expect a really nice picture".... I'm dyeing lol!!!

  • @milo8425
    @milo84255 ай бұрын

    what a lovely conversation, Steve you are a prodigy interviewer

  • @jmeslo
    @jmeslo7 ай бұрын

    A new view gathers more beans! A second look invested, brings more beans digested!

  • @williamstewart102
    @williamstewart1027 ай бұрын

    In my ornithology class, my professor, in two instances, used a speaker to attract birds to us, but strictly for learning purposes. As far as I know it is generally frowned upon because it causes birds to be territorial and expend resources for a false alarm. It is a waste of energy, which in some places is a matter of survival. In your suburban backyard it's probably not a big deal, but in arid to semi-arid regions, it could cause issues if lots of people are doing this. At least that is what I kind of took from that lesson.

  • @zekeshandles
    @zekeshandles6 ай бұрын

    A fresh set a lookers puts more beans in the cooker. Always great content, thanks!

  • @mikerhodes3563
    @mikerhodes35637 ай бұрын

    The Louisiana squirrel season opener is always the first full weekend in October. In our parish the schools are closed the Friday before and in other Parishes school attendance is at an all time low. The Dads take the boys to the woods and the Wives take to the malls with the girls. Squirrel opener is really a big deal in Louisiana.

  • @ajshoots5772
    @ajshoots57727 ай бұрын

    Hunting, fishing, cooking, and history. Between the show and podcast, should be a high school class!!

  • @brentmcmahon8188
    @brentmcmahon81887 ай бұрын

    This my favorite podcast and TV show and I recorded all your show’s and have watched them at least 3 times and waiting for some new stuff so when will we get some ? Can’t wait !!!

  • @wtp7631
    @wtp76317 ай бұрын

    Great show. I love this stuff

  • @petric334
    @petric3347 ай бұрын

    Im fairly certain I cant find an equivalent conversation anywhere, even in our era of infinite information. That's an actual accomplishment. Also Randy, despite having an "ask me about my PhD" sticker on his mercedes c class, just listening and expressing via his facial expressions, strikes me as a dude just engaged with the subject, rather than anything podcast-related. Just adding reality points to the whole exchange. Great job guys.

  • @allansheets9031

    @allansheets9031

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad that you brought this up. I noticed the same thing

  • @MrCashewkitty
    @MrCashewkitty7 ай бұрын

    Oh man, been waiting for this one.

  • @jarenknowshisgun3767
    @jarenknowshisgun37674 ай бұрын

    My Great great great grandfather was a Chief that fought in the Little Big Horn. His name is Limber bones and he was a Cheyenne Chief. If you go the the circle at the Little Bighorn you will see he gravestone nearby.

  • @Chertoff88
    @Chertoff885 ай бұрын

    This is one of the best podcasts I've ever heard.

  • @clifsant9266
    @clifsant92667 ай бұрын

    I had to listen to the first hour and a half on Spotify this morning. Send now just got the last however, long on the KZread calls, I couldn’t wait for it to get uploaded to KZread. American West history really is quite fascinating. Especially when you realize that it didn’t happen all that long ago

  • @slimsawyer8461

    @slimsawyer8461

    7 ай бұрын

    That’s the crazy thing to me as well. We’re only talking a couple hundred years ago but I have a hard time even comprehending that! I’m not much of a reader (book wise) but I definitely need to start as there’s so much to learn. I get caught up thinking too much about the present/future, I think learning our past would help refocus my thoughts.

  • @BassBrohamShops1
    @BassBrohamShops17 ай бұрын

    I can’t tell you how long I have been waiting for Dr. West to be a guest on Meateater or Bear Grease. History major at UARK and he was my professor of choice (also Dr. Chapell) when picking courses. The West of the Imagination was the most memorable course I had during my time on The Hill.

  • @kennywolfjr.6413
    @kennywolfjr.64137 ай бұрын

    As a Knight of the Golden horseshoe, its nice to hear someone talk about it lol

  • @coon3869
    @coon38697 ай бұрын

    The Cleetus McFarland of the hunting world

  • @lanepelissier91
    @lanepelissier917 ай бұрын

    Ya'll were talking about the nautical origin of common words or phrases. Many years ago while in the Navy I received a book from my father. The book was called Three Sheets to the Wind. Whole book on the subject.

  • @ericharrington2509
    @ericharrington25097 ай бұрын

    “ Give um all 9 yds” , I always liked that one .

  • @mommytsunami
    @mommytsunami5 ай бұрын

    Very pleased to hear him mention elk dogs! My grandmother was a fluent Blackfoot speaker and the word for horse (ponokaomitaa) is literally elk (ponoka) dog (omitaa)

  • @cadewilson8719
    @cadewilson87197 ай бұрын

    Great podcast

  • @AnglerAnthony
    @AnglerAnthony7 ай бұрын

    William Knifeman would have killed Custer but his horse stepped in a gopher hole and tumbled over and the horse ended up landing on William knifeman killing him…

  • @staywoke2198
    @staywoke21987 ай бұрын

    The old saying is “two eyes are better than one”

  • @Nate_Higgins
    @Nate_Higgins3 ай бұрын

    Sitting here at work in Springdale, Arkansas enjoying this.

  • @mdenzinger
    @mdenzinger7 ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed this podcast! More history themed podcasts please!

  • @hendu7111
    @hendu71117 ай бұрын

    A fresh set of eyes will always find more beans. That works in an accounting situation since they're already bean counters.

  • @bikerbrandon1
    @bikerbrandon17 ай бұрын

    I'm going to start introducing myself as having RLE ( real life experience) like it's a phd

  • @bendershome4discountorphan859
    @bendershome4discountorphan8595 ай бұрын

    Thx for sharing this info as someone born and raised in Park county Wyoming the West was a very large part of school

  • @kauaicouple
    @kauaicouple7 ай бұрын

    Hey Steve... Can you look through those glasses and see life on mars?

  • @mikecarroll3132
    @mikecarroll31327 ай бұрын

    About the destructive squirrels. My wife has a personal vendetta against the squirrels in our neighborhood tearing up her bird feeders, and wanted me to shoot all of them. I told her we had to wait until June 1st, when the season opened!

  • @joeocallaghan4129
    @joeocallaghan41296 ай бұрын

    Gratitude 🙏🏻

  • @danorris5235
    @danorris52357 ай бұрын

    When you're crossing the border into Yellowstone you know full well what you're about to get involved in. You're already in a position where you should be on guard in some form. Getting attacked by wildlife in Yellowstone is an almost 100% chance that you earned it by your lack of intelligence and/or situational awareness. In your everyday life it's far more forgivable. I sympathize with the guy getting bit by a raccoon taking the garbage out at 2330 in his boxer shorts, and never with the moron who wanted a selfie with an animal that can kill you by simply walking in broad daylight with warning signs everywhere.

  • @mitchk.9049
    @mitchk.90496 ай бұрын

    for Rinella's love of the mountain men era, I haven't heard him mention Joseph Walker

  • @barrottmac
    @barrottmac7 ай бұрын

    I was working today and trying to figure out the best way to do something. With the extra pair of eyes the easiest way was apparent… “you find more beans with a fresh set of eyes!”-me

  • @ironjunglefitness8313
    @ironjunglefitness83136 ай бұрын

    Love any meateater podcast that has to do with western history

  • @steammaker48
    @steammaker487 ай бұрын

    steve has got me calling the older of my twin boys "buster brown" i don't remember what episode i heard him say it, but for some reason it stuck with me lol

  • @MrEdukator1
    @MrEdukator14 ай бұрын

    One of the best topics!! Just need my other Arkansas brothern Clay Newcomb

  • @D.o.a
    @D.o.a6 ай бұрын

    A fresh set of eyes gets you closer to the prize !!!!!!! 🇨🇦 🍁

  • @elchiponr1
    @elchiponr14 ай бұрын

    i think i just found my new favorite podcast for when i'm drawing cowboys, love how american this is. Greets from Holland

  • @diegoruiz7600
    @diegoruiz76004 ай бұрын

    I love these types of old timers

  • @joshualodico4528
    @joshualodico45287 ай бұрын

    My pick for four American authors to be etched into the side of a mountain world be Twain, Faulkner, Hemingway and Rinella...

  • @CA-lf7jt
    @CA-lf7jt5 ай бұрын

    Also the coolest Yellowstone thing I’ve ever emcountered was a Buffalo skeleton literally sticking out of one of the Yellowstone Paint Pots . So eerie and yet looked like a macabre work of art

  • @BennyBigIron
    @BennyBigIron6 ай бұрын

    Steve Rinella speaks for the Squirrels

  • @SportsMatt13
    @SportsMatt137 ай бұрын

    Has anyone read any of West’s books? I’m very interested in Continental Reckoning and The Contested Plains and was looking for some opinions

  • @austins4909
    @austins49092 ай бұрын

    I live off the Muskegon marsch this man is a staple in my community

  • @benjaminlewis671
    @benjaminlewis6715 ай бұрын

    Listening from Springdale Arkansas today. Really upset I missed out on the cook-off. It was at the JB Hunt nature center which is really a great place for conservation. I personally try to drive by as many times as I can on my way to work because I like looking at the deer. Is it odd of me to take the longer route because there's more deer to see?

  • @adventureswithmarsh
    @adventureswithmarsh5 ай бұрын

    I wish y’all would come talk about the East Coast before settlement with me in SC!

  • @traaaaavis
    @traaaaavis7 ай бұрын

    Tell Steve the Merlin app does pic up when someone else plays a bird call with the app. Happened to me a dozen times using the app with friends

  • @outthereJCH
    @outthereJCH4 ай бұрын

    It would be great for you all to have Indigenous scholars in conversation with topics like this. There are many Indigenous folks with scholarly expertise and experiential expertise that, I think, should be at the table for these discussions to represent the perspectives involved. The same with Black scholars who have researched and written about these issues.

  • @E-WayPoota
    @E-WayPoota7 ай бұрын

    Wasn’t Steve talking about putting out a show or some sort of project about the mountain men era? It was some time ago i remember him talking about it but wondering if he ever gave any updates on this in recent podcasts I may have missed.

  • @slimsawyer8461

    @slimsawyer8461

    7 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure its a book in the making

  • @E-WayPoota

    @E-WayPoota

    7 ай бұрын

    @@slimsawyer8461 ooo ok that makes sense. I just remember him saying something was in the works and haven’t seen anything yet. Thanks for the reply bro!

  • @tbcoachniblick1208
    @tbcoachniblick12086 ай бұрын

    Would love to see Steve make his own bow and arrows from scratch just like the Sioux/Cheyenne plains style( with iron trade points on the arrows and a sinew backed bow) then hunt a deer, elk or any game animal with this equiptment...!! 🤔👍

  • @stin9er153
    @stin9er1537 ай бұрын

    "Daytime Smoke" is a badass name

  • @shaneskeffington998
    @shaneskeffington9987 ай бұрын

    I love this guy. The content is great man

  • @robertirving7764
    @robertirving77646 ай бұрын

    I don't spend much time around late but have heard the store high in transit story.

  • @claytonsharrard1900
    @claytonsharrard19007 ай бұрын

    traverse city michigan love sleeping bear dunes!!! I’ll be calling you for that bar brother

  • @wisconsin9009
    @wisconsin90097 ай бұрын

    American Indian history on meat eater? oh hell yeah

  • @countrycorner9337
    @countrycorner93375 ай бұрын

    What is the outro song on this episode? Please I can’t find it anywhere. Ride on?

  • @wisdomcory
    @wisdomcory7 ай бұрын

    My Merlin app wouldn't pick up a crested jay and said it was an American crow. The area I was hunting has no crows. Something going on with the Jays in the app

  • @andrewjohnson9610
    @andrewjohnson96107 ай бұрын

    2:13 that's a Clark's Nutcracker. My complaint about Merlin is that they're not including non-birds.

  • @michaelcervantez3570
    @michaelcervantez35707 ай бұрын

    Have you ever seen Blazing Saddles? "Are you kidding me!" LOL!!!!!!

  • @AlmjeldXXX
    @AlmjeldXXX5 ай бұрын

    So good! The difference between this and the nightly news or the Today Show couldn’t be larger.

  • @williamfrost8987
    @williamfrost89877 ай бұрын

    We cook in the hot springs in Nevada the minerals make the food have a whole different taste try it especially boiled eggs I don't know why

  • @1WZRD
    @1WZRD6 ай бұрын

    You must try sweet & sour squirrel 😋 So good, it's nuts.

  • @DaSavage33
    @DaSavage336 ай бұрын

    Any plans of having any Nimiipuu (nez perce) on your podcast?

  • @chrisstribling8883
    @chrisstribling88836 ай бұрын

    Man I would love to come a hunt or any trip with you I just lost my mom in the first week of October

  • @ggray19
    @ggray197 ай бұрын

    You gotta know the Northwest Arkansas area, where Springdale finds itself. They are marketing to the money in the area... and ALL of suburbia can relate to the issues of the overpopulated areas in town/city that SO DAMN MANY squirrels call home. Anyway... lots a nuts in every metropolis, and NWA, while in Arkansas, has plenty that will struggle with eating squirrels, and the techniques and reasoning required to cook up a squirrel for consumption.

  • @swansonfamilyfarm6833
    @swansonfamilyfarm68337 ай бұрын

    Don't forget York when discussing Lewis & Clark

  • @dinomight989
    @dinomight9897 ай бұрын

    Lit pod yo

  • @DB.KOOPER
    @DB.KOOPER4 ай бұрын

    We cooked vaccuum sealed Carne Asada in a fairky famous hot-spring in the Payette River valley and did the same in Sunshine Hot Spring on the Middle Salmon years ago. Nothing weird about it.

  • @ramrodrymensnyder2648
    @ramrodrymensnyder26485 ай бұрын

    Fresh set of eyes will always find more beans...LOVE IT.

  • @Vova3iLvova
    @Vova3iLvova7 ай бұрын

    joe sent me here bc spotify still cant figure out video

  • @johncarter5030
    @johncarter50306 ай бұрын

    "In no particular order ". Mark Twain, Ernest Hemingway, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Edgar Allen Poe, Stephen King

  • @brunofreitas6914
    @brunofreitas69147 ай бұрын

    Squirrel lives matter too!😂🐿

  • @zach1645
    @zach16457 ай бұрын

    Bravo gentlemen, fascinating podcast

  • @ericfranklin9049
    @ericfranklin90497 ай бұрын

    Merlin won't identify Sandhill cranes either. Not sure if it's because I only have Midwest downloaded or not, but the public land I hunt in Northern Indiana has a lot of them and they're very vocal. It registers them but won't identify.

  • @llllllll1014
    @llllllll10147 ай бұрын

    14:45 "A new broom sweeps clean"

  • @jaredpeterson380
    @jaredpeterson3805 ай бұрын

    Grey squirrels scream when an avian predator is spotted. They chatter and bark at threats on the ground. Just my personal observation. Also saw a semi-tame ruffled grouse, run up to the cabin foundation and stretch up while flattening itself to the wall. The hawk was at least a 1/4 mile up. Took us a while to find it. Not only was the grouse camoed, it could watch the hawk.

  • @jessiejones5464
    @jessiejones54645 ай бұрын

    A fresh set of eyes is where the old set relies…. 😉 👁️ 👀

  • @karl-erikellingsther2140
    @karl-erikellingsther21403 ай бұрын

    Steve wants to have a PhD so badly ;)

  • @kirkdiedrichs-cdhs5879
    @kirkdiedrichs-cdhs58797 ай бұрын

    Input Canada Jay (the correct name per the Cornell Lab of Ornithology) instead of Gray Jay.

  • @howlinhog
    @howlinhog6 ай бұрын

    i guarantee you the standing dead story is true. Or at least that it can happen. I shot a bird in the head one time, and I immediately realized something was really weird in the way it stood there. I slowly walked up to it, and I discovered that the whole back of its head was missing. But it just stood there.

  • @ericskrivseth4937
    @ericskrivseth49377 ай бұрын

    Fresh eyes never lie

  • @TexasWild
    @TexasWild7 ай бұрын

    1:07:00 This is why we had so much trouble in Afghanistan

  • @kylecharters3
    @kylecharters320 сағат бұрын

    awesome

  • @mikeyantis8067
    @mikeyantis80672 ай бұрын

    Great migration of the past, going to California. We are having a great migration now. People leaving California and affecting smaller communities of the intermountain west. Both migrations are/were to the detriment of the west.

  • @RipPimpCScrewstonTX
    @RipPimpCScrewstonTX6 ай бұрын

    Very interesting topic. Manifest Destiny is a sad topic for me & my ancestors

  • @natehayes82
    @natehayes827 ай бұрын

    Great episode and I'll have to get the book

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