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@andrewx9850

4 жыл бұрын

L

@thomasfuller9984

4 жыл бұрын

No thanks virgin god put cows on earth to eat not how to eat them

@aigeee

4 жыл бұрын

bruh.. ok

@cockroachv

4 жыл бұрын

I understand your choice. My choice is that if its not human you're allowed to put it in your mouth.

@elenajanikova2370

4 жыл бұрын

I do not participate with weakness.

"Can I make a point"...... "yes, of course you can". THIS is how humans should discuss these topics!!

@woosh_police4018

4 жыл бұрын

@Szilard Molnar yes I've noticed that with Steven. Even tho I agree with some of his views there was this "change my mind" episode where they discussed socialism. The other guy had great arguments and made me reconsider socialism, but Steven ran out of them and just started going about how the kid made a comment with the word "autistic" and just stopped the discussion. You can find the video on KZread I think. But that showed how he didn't want his mind changed, but to just "shove his opinion in the other guys throat".

@ADCArtAttack

4 жыл бұрын

@@thesadanimations I float about the web sometimes :) thank you!

@Saronite

4 жыл бұрын

Actually he cut him off there which is not how a debate works You cant make a point until the other one is done making his point

@lastnamefirstname5295

4 жыл бұрын

It's not as entertaining as two equally braindead angry people violently verbally going at each other though

@ghgdtgzxfg6960

4 жыл бұрын

welcome to britain

Both sides are intelligent, this is how a debate should be.

@HelenaChar

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob Breath couldn’t agree more, obvs am with Ed but both very informed and considered arguments. 10/10 debate

@vulturnuszan

4 жыл бұрын

I disagree, he's articulate but in my opinion not intelligent.

@JasonWilliams89

4 жыл бұрын

He might be educated, but definitely not intelligent. Source - 19:50

@Samueljohnhorne1984

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree

@andresalcaino7570

4 жыл бұрын

"That doesn't matter because we will be gone in 1 trillion years." That argument was so stupid, he is justifying practically every atrocity that happened, is happening and will happen in the world

"I haven't seen a flying cow" "Well you haven't gone to space either" Ed I love you, that was pure gold

@Christian-qm1zc

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZ18yKqOnZaud6g.html

Even as a non-religious person I find it sad that so many people think everything is meaningless and we are “just” a bunch of atoms floating randomly in space.

@tinajthesinger

6 ай бұрын

100% agree.

@alphaikaros417

4 ай бұрын

Nothing about that statement is incorrect though. We are just a bunch of atoms floating in space and for practical purposes animal suffering is just an emotion inside the heads of humans. One of the reasons for the invention of religions is probably to give humans the feeling of a higher sense of purpose.

@WhattheFwouldIknow

Ай бұрын

It's freaking insane. He probably doesn't like the word "soul' but I think he's lacking one

@fletchwilliams5992

29 күн бұрын

I think this and I’m vegan. Life is amazing and a gift but that doesn’t mean we aren’t just a bunch of atoms floating in space :) life has no meaning so u have to make some

That's how people should discuss ideas. This is how the world should be like.

@cloudthief8918

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! In my opinion, we currently put way to much emphasis on debates, where the goal is to win rather than to inform.

@counterpointerz-rocketleag2038

4 жыл бұрын

The world would be boring af if everyone was like this, don't you think?

@landon1136

4 жыл бұрын

It's good, like Steven Crowder's change my mind

@jamesdahughes3955

4 жыл бұрын

people need to give a shit about becoming more knowledgeable first

@hashslinginhasher

4 жыл бұрын

I don't get it.. They are discussing shit in this fashion... What's the problem?

Unrelated but I wish I had the ability to just talk and express my ideas clearly without messing up my words or loosing my train of thought. Must be nice

@artemregenesis629

4 жыл бұрын

I’m like partially educated in anything I do so I usually just lose confidence in my argument and end up agreeing with the person I’m debating against 😂 these days I’ve learnt to just shut my mouth and listen as I’ve realised I can learn everything I need to know without necessarily debating! If I find myself headed in that direction I simply just flip the script and just start asking questions instead!

@korrine888

4 жыл бұрын

I had this EXACT same thought several time throughout this video omg

@konstantinethecommunist6177

4 жыл бұрын

Practice

@juman9696

4 жыл бұрын

You can do anything

@throughcolouredglasses9300

4 жыл бұрын

You can actually practice that :) Start small by expressing what you think and why about whatever issue (say where you'd like to eat with friends, how you feel after a conversation or movie) in one or two sentences, starting with your opinion or feeling, then followed by why you feel that way or how it affects you. It might be weird at first but you'll get used to speaking in full sentences including your reason. It will not only make you sound smart in staged debates but make communication with your friends or relationship partners easier and more clear, potentially bettering your relationships with them and also get you in touch with your own ability to justify feelings or opinions even just to yourself :) If you have no one to practice with, even exploring your feelings or opinions in your own head like that can make a difference. Also, there is no shame in saying "I'm not sure about this, I don't know enough about this topic to have a strong opinion" (maybe followed by "but i do know about this related issue...") and there is no shame in asking questions in order to learn and form an opinion. You can do everything you want to :) Even voicing your wish to get better at this in the comments here is a real first step.

24:27 "the reason why people aren't hurting other people is because they would be punished for that" - what a depressing thought that everyone on the world would just lose any kind of morale and humanity once no one would be punished. he took "the purge" way too seriously.

@scumbag9714

2 жыл бұрын

It's true if you look back even 500 years, people gathered by the hundreds to watch public executions as a form of entertainment. There's a reason we need laws.

@sense_maker1816

2 жыл бұрын

@@scumbag9714 But those people were being executed because of the law

@evieblessed

Жыл бұрын

@@scumbag9714 , nah, people were being executed BECAUSE of laws. Look to our closest relatives and you'll see that we, as social beings, aim for harmony within our groups. Sure, fear of punishment can factor, but humans are an animal that bonds, nurtures and cares just as fiercely as it fights.

@Mfor1998

10 ай бұрын

…is he wrong tho?

@keifer7813

7 ай бұрын

Oh boy would you be in a shock if the purge was real 😂

This is one of my favorite debates. I wish Ed had pushed the other guy on the ramifications of the "it's illegal so I don't do it" line of thinking. In some countries, it's perfectly legal to murder someone if they are LGBTQ+. As Ed said, legality doesn't equal morality.

@-rr-4172

2 жыл бұрын

And unfortunately for people using morality as a basis for any of their arguments, don't actually have an argument because morality is relative.

@hollieinan8329

2 жыл бұрын

@@-rr-4172 Nothing matters so anything goes. It seems like morality is subjective, but since that leaves us free to decide for ourselves, I choose kindness over might makes right.

@-rr-4172

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollieinan8329 Exactly, which also means 'meat eaters' have just as much right to kill and eat an animal as you choosing to not to consume (or own?) anything that has resulted in an animal's death.

@hollieinan8329

2 жыл бұрын

@@-rr-4172 And to do anything else they want to anyone, including all the worst things people do to each other--rape, torture, murder, etc. It also means people who dislike others suffering have just as much "right" to stop the people who hurt animals from hurting them. If we decide anything goes then... anything goes.

@-rr-4172

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollieinan8329 Welp, that's the truth. Anything does go......If you're a loony. I cant speak for others but i can speak for myself so i shall; morality is totally relative yes, but humanitarianism is not. Here's a thought exercise: since morality is relative, why isn't it ok to take someone else's life? Because as a human being, i can understand other human beings, recognizing that i dont want to die AND killing another of my own species would ultimately do the opposite of prolonging the survival and wellbeing of my species.

Politicians take note. No digs, or over opinions, just educated points of opposing views.

@0Gudmandsen0

4 жыл бұрын

Politicians communicate the way they do because it works. Zingers and complex poblems boiled down to an single line is much more easy to communicate to the masses than long explanations. It sucks, but should it be otherwise we need to reinvent political debates

@Klemeron

4 жыл бұрын

I'm actually okay with some zings. The problem is politicians can spout some mind-washing stupidity and empty platitudes that appeal to "heart" rather than rationale.

@fornostios8970

4 жыл бұрын

Don't know where you are from. But in my country, the politicians act formally like in this debate.

@Paul2377

4 жыл бұрын

G Fisher Indeed. Comparing the jeering in the House of Commons to this.

@MishimaTyler

4 жыл бұрын

Fornostios what country are you from then?

This goes to show you can't judge an argument by its haircuts

@TokyoKazama

4 жыл бұрын

Lool

@bobkundi8858

4 жыл бұрын

Well i must say that vegan dude look like he was borned to be vegan xD

@livestrong296

4 жыл бұрын

Highly underrated comment

@CJ2K

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😭

@Ericadbury

4 жыл бұрын

Really liked your comment

I am from Brazil, and I don’t think there is a cheaper and more practical country to be vegan in the world. Not only well developed countries have easy access to a plant based diet, people just talk about things they have no knowledge of.

@Brandon-os3qr

Жыл бұрын

Eu to tao feliz pra ler isso : ) Nao sou brasileiro, mas tenho **muitas conexoes ai (familha e amigos), e todos falam q nao e possivel ai. Q eu devo nao o mencionar, ou q eu to ignorante / nao entendo as realidades brasileiras

@mafesimione3967

Жыл бұрын

@@Brandon-os3qr :) imagina, é mais que possível. Inclusive temos restaurantes veganos maravilhosos! As pessoas só querem criticar. Eu vivo na Europa hoje e posso garantir que é muito mais fácil e barato ser vegano no Brasil.

@richierich2229

Жыл бұрын

@@mafesimione3967 Brazilian tribes can’t go to vegan restaurants. Kids in the slums can’t go to vegan restaurants

@mafesimione3967

Жыл бұрын

@@richierich2229 they don’t have to.

@user-se2qr4xe6r

Жыл бұрын

​@@mafesimione3967 Concordo ! Ser vegano na França é um pesadelo...

Ed... I just want to say. I love you brother. You are such a valuable asset to the world. Thank you for being you 🙂👌❤️

Imagine a world where people are as educated and have it together as these two...

@orngpeelr9017

4 жыл бұрын

buddy on the left didn't have a clue what he was getting himself into. You think he's educated? His arguments were weak and not well thought out (just one indication was his revision and contradictions). His counterarguments even weaker. He was able to articulate himself quite clearly, but that's more rhetoric than it is knowledge.

@99999george

4 жыл бұрын

@@orngpeelr9017 I'm not sure about you, but I don't have my arguments for every conceivable debate ready 24/7 in case I am invited to one spontaneously. Considering the guy on the left did this impromptu compared to Ed, who had arguments prepared in advance, I think he held his ground very well.

@t-dollas5442

4 жыл бұрын

@@orngpeelr9017 honestly some of ed's counter arguments were childishly nitpicky. He cut the guy off a few times, not much, but when he did i felt that it was only to hinder the dudes thought process as he explained his points.

@orngpeelr9017

4 жыл бұрын

@@99999george he wasn't invited to a debate though? Out of his own volition he chose to make himself look foolish. You're crediting a guy for making an attempt and I would agree with you IF that attempt was necessary. No one forced him to debate Ed though. He chose to not bring any actual arguments.

@orngpeelr9017

4 жыл бұрын

@@t-dollas5442 that seems more like a projection than it does to be a logical conclusion given that Ed was clearly "winning the argument" for the lack of a better phrase. So he'd have no need to throw the guy off. Not to mention that the guy did the exact same thing, but ok.

WOW- this guy did NOT come to play. He knew what he was talking about not only that.. he listened. 👏🏻

@kage353

4 жыл бұрын

janaye C yeah u clearly dont know what ur talking about...

@Tschaggi

4 жыл бұрын

More or less. He completely bailed out on morality, also didn't make a lot of sense in nuances, like saying we have control over parts of the universe or borderline-claiming animals might not be sentient beings. The part that angers me though is how he refers to animal products being used in many other ways than nourishment. Yes, having a pigs heart-valve might safe your life, while breeding and feeding and slaughtering a pig for food not only hurts your environment but also your heart. TBF, he was on the premise of "it is my choice" - which is more than you can say of pretty much anyone else. They might not have had enough time to get into that but the space he made for the vegan standpoint to park into was way too huge. In general, good debate and credit to the guy.

@user-vv5ju3fj1p

4 жыл бұрын

@@lookaround1846 It's reversed. "Hearing but not listening" is the term.

@user-vv5ju3fj1p

4 жыл бұрын

@@lookaround1846 And I don't know what he said for you to come to the conclusion he has no heart.

@Shrenkeh

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-vv5ju3fj1p he's pretty clearly a nihilist. Something nobody likes

Great balanced debate. Really good to see, guys. I went vegan when I had this thought - "If you want to eat it, you have to kill it yourself." I realised that if I'm faced with a pig, sheep, or cow, I'm more likely to cuddle it than kill it. Haven't touched animal products since.

@santhoshs9933

Жыл бұрын

Same with me... Majority of the people can't see their food being killed...but they paradoxically still eat a lot of meat ..Those who comeout of this and resolve the paradox are now vegans...

"the reason we don't hurt each other is because of laws" This is just totally empirically wrong on so many levels.

@angycucumber4319

3 жыл бұрын

Slavery used to be legal

@paulhaywood1615

Жыл бұрын

@@angycucumber4319 yeh by the psychopaths in charge, NOT NORMAL NON CLUSTER B FOLK, we understand morals, and the golden rule.

@unreal1257

Жыл бұрын

can you elaborate on that?

I love how this didn't degrade into name calling and screaming

@omp365

4 жыл бұрын

grown ups. they still exist.

@SHFTPROJECTS

4 жыл бұрын

This would be a different story if it was feminism lol

@marietjelta3791

4 жыл бұрын

@@SHFTPROJECTS why?

@PaulKentSkates

4 жыл бұрын

@Bobson Dugnut there are many types of feminists. I happen to live with a woman who does a very good job of explaining why she is a feminist and why her ideas work and often how many of the loud feminists miss the point. Don't allow the loudest and most radical of any bunch form your view on a movement or a group of other people.

@TheColourAwesomer

4 жыл бұрын

Because this isn't America.

i was prepared for the worst, expected passive aggressive provoking and shit, but i got surprised

@plokijuh5830

4 жыл бұрын

This isn’t Stephen Crowder

@anfi7447

4 жыл бұрын

This isn’t change my mind

@Tillyard86

4 жыл бұрын

Why are you surprised? Outside of the internet, this is normal.

@cansomer6433

4 жыл бұрын

That happens when only one side is intelligent.

@bobkundi8858

4 жыл бұрын

Can Somer i dont think intelligence is a factor to this calm discussion.. i mean u can have a ragy and aggressive conversation between 2 high intellectual people... ( i think intelligence is determined by the intellectual ability) however im convienced its not the intelligency that make calm conversations its more the personality and the will.. what defins being intelligent anyway.. 🤔

The man in the white and orange jacket was so kind and respectful good for him

As someone who has been on and off vegan/vegetarian, finding Ed has been so helpful. He is levelheaded, he listens, and gives great rebuttals. It’s refreshing. Thank you.

If only the presidential debates were like this.

@Dance4Israel

3 жыл бұрын

April Flower I want to age as well as this comment

@mahadhussain3588

3 жыл бұрын

yep

@nternetrat

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dance4Israel HAHAHA like fine wine

@ShirisSun

3 жыл бұрын

best comment of the day

@Yoqamar

3 жыл бұрын

May Buzzetti HAHAHAH

How sad is it that people are impressed that there is a civil discussion going on

@Senordisastermaster

4 жыл бұрын

It is sad in the sense it emphasizes how rare being civil is. It should be a given that debates are to be civil, but many times it doesn’t end up that way.

@DefeatLust

4 жыл бұрын

@Norm T which is what makes it sad. We stand on the shoulder of giants, great philosopher, world conquerors, and from that we're "refreshed", however you want to put it, that a civil discourse is in play today. THAT is extremely sad. What we may have advanced in technology, we still lack on our foundations. That is fucking terrible. We haven't come far. At all.

@God-T

4 жыл бұрын

Immorality!!! animals don't fuckin use immorality when they kill, if they did, they would've shown it a long time ago.. and I don't mean animals raised by human intervention..😒

@alexandermills2449

4 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people are impressed by their intellect but I do get your point. I feel like a lot of conversations should and could be debates but most of the time they turn into arguments as people struggle to accept an opposing view or just struggle to agree to disagree. A lot of people want everyone to have the same views as them (including a lot of vegans) but as long as their views don't create immoral or unethical actions then try to change their mind but if they don't want to, agree to disagree.

@pinkbeatle2012

4 жыл бұрын

Its because it's a rare sight.

24:27 "The reason why people don't hurt other people, is because you have a system of laws in place" Frightening view. The reason why I don't hurt people is because it's cruel and wicked and against my own morals. This guy is a grim figure all round.

@Euphoftoday

2 жыл бұрын

@Azur e only you would as that though is in your head, doesnt enter mine. How on earth can you pass judgement on a total stranger? Shocking.

@Euphoftoday

2 жыл бұрын

@Azur e you mean you are. I never mentioned killing. You've got an obsession. Put the computer down and go get your medication.

@TacoSlayer571

2 жыл бұрын

I don't hurt other people because I feel compassion and empathy for them. So sad how many sick people are out there including the guy in the video. You can even see how sick he looks. I wish him the best. Poor guy, probbably has an empathy defecit or something like that.

@amazingly_bookish

2 жыл бұрын

You say hurting another human being is "cruel and wicked and against your own morals" and yet your words are so hurtful.

@Euphoftoday

2 жыл бұрын

@@amazingly_bookish I suggest you visit a slaughterhouse, then you will see what really is cruel and hurtful. Besides which, you cannot see the DISGUSTING abuse hurled at me by this azure person, because they removed their comments.

Thanks do much for being at the front line!! Thanks for all you do for animals and for this screwed up world

@jupiterinaries6150

Жыл бұрын

He’s at the “front line” of his own sense of moral superiority. These animal “rights” activists act so superior.

@FloridaSprings12

9 ай бұрын

@@jupiterinaries6150 uh, the ones who say “humans are superior to animals-therefore who cares if they suffer” seem to have the superiority complex 💀

@mountaingirl1753

5 ай бұрын

@@jupiterinaries6150 Someone who stands up for the victimized IS superior to someone who disregards their suffering.

@jupiterinaries6150

5 ай бұрын

@@mountaingirl1753 nope vegans are not superior to meat eaters. They think they’re doing good in the world by standing up for dumb animals when in reality they’re feeding their own egos. Animals could care less whether they live or die. It’s pure instinct on their part.

@gaddummit

5 ай бұрын

lmfao destroyed him @@FloridaSprings12

It sucks that discussions like this aren't the norm on disagreeing issues.

@jaspermills4506

4 жыл бұрын

I think that it is because although both people have a strong belief in their argument, neither are so arrogant that they are unwilling to accept they maybe wrong.

@musashi-avi284

4 жыл бұрын

For every screaming idiot there's a rational debate happening. Just because they dont get the clicks doesn't mean theyre in the minority

@Tillyard86

4 жыл бұрын

They are the norm if you just look hard enough.

@bluto727

4 жыл бұрын

@@MagnusBringsli I behave perfectly fine, but I can't say the same for plenty of others.

@cedb3360

4 жыл бұрын

It takes 2 intelligent persons aware of how to discuss, which is rare

Dude both of these guys are extremely educated! Congrats on having a civil discussion!

@user-zm3dp9qt8m

4 жыл бұрын

@D true the meat dude looks like he didn't sleep for 1 week and survives on energy drinks and chicken nuggets

@semsm192

4 жыл бұрын

민지김 I’m not saying the guy on the left looks healthy but if you think that vegan looks healthy you really are in denial. Look how PALE (and skinny) he looks.

@user-zm3dp9qt8m

4 жыл бұрын

@@semsm192 first of all I basically described a college student that was nothing against him lol and second of all people can be naturally skinny and being pale has very little to do with your diet

@semsm192

4 жыл бұрын

민지김 it has very MUCH to do with your diet. Don’t argue that becaus that simply is a fact.

@semsm192

4 жыл бұрын

And what a surprise. ONE OF the manor causes of paleness is a folate and b-12 deficiency😂

The sign says "you". Why are we talking about Kenya?

Huge respect for both of you, I feel that we do live in a civilized society, but unfortunately on those debates people end up being completely the opposite, so I'm really glad that we do have people who can have such a debate, I'm a fail human being and I'm leaning from this, both in a philosophical and human way. Thank you both again for this debate! 👏🏻👏🏻

A Wise man once said "The point of a debate is to find the truth not prove you are right".

@johnnyflips420

4 жыл бұрын

Krishna Bharadwaj 🙏🏼

@johanneswestman935

4 жыл бұрын

The man was wrong. Appealing to emotions is far better than appealing to logic if you want to see things change. It is what it is. Humans aren't robots.

@whimahwhe

4 жыл бұрын

Johannes Westman But we actually build them robots. Every aspect of a robot is embedded inside our skull and has to coexist with the other emotional part. A Human is both of those parts, and the logical part is the one that made this exact conversation able to happen. Or do you think computers, networks and microchips were invented by the logic of our emotions? don’t fool yourself, both parts are critical and are the ones that makes us whole

@bobkundi8858

4 жыл бұрын

Whimah Whe However u could put emotions above logic cuz emotions accept certain morals and customs.. logic just accept the truth and efficiency As we all know the truth isnt always the solution.. and efficiency can be so immoral.. Watch psycho pass a good anime for robot/human situations

@whimahwhe

4 жыл бұрын

Bob Kundi Not quite. Logic is more like a framework. You need values (as x = 1) to make it work. You can use the truth, which I advise, but you could use your own values, such as a moral system ruled by emotions. The status of actual truth of such value is not related with the status of truth inside the logic framework, that’s why we can think, you are using the framework filling the values with whatever is convenient in order to create a simulation. You should learn programming, this becomes much clear if you know how to code :)

I love how calmly this guy listens to and explains his thoughts on veganism, I am trying hard to learn how to do just that. Our world needs to learn how to listen and talk to each other without becoming angry

@harrywoolston846

4 жыл бұрын

Meditate

@nope7391

4 жыл бұрын

He talked about how he did that in his Harvard video, really amazing I’m trying to as well!

@conorkrekeler6983

4 жыл бұрын

I’m sure it helps a lot that this guy didn’t just show up to troll him with low brow or subjective comments. He’s articulate and calm. His points weren’t exactly accurate and honestly a pretty depressing, but he’s not throwing around comments like “hehe bacon good. me caveman”

@Samueljohnhorne1984

4 жыл бұрын

It is a very rational, and calm debate. Rather enjoyable to see.

@majinkentssj4

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe stop taking it so personal. And try to force others for your choice

How refreshing to watch two adults having a mature discussion/debate with mutual respect. As it should be.

Wonderfully calm and respectful discourse. Amazing to see.

the fact that im surprised there was no yelling and angry fighting, is probably because im american.

@crownonmyheads

4 жыл бұрын

@Jules Juerez This could also be the result of only seeing debates turn out ugly in media, not just their personal life

@giftedwolf6671

4 жыл бұрын

RosesILoveYou Yeah

@platoschauvet

4 жыл бұрын

UK and Australian parliament are way wilder than our congress though, always yelling and stuff

@indicaking

4 жыл бұрын

@Jules Juerez idk, I rarely get angry, and the second someone starts yelling in a debate with me I just end it there because theirs no reason to debate with them at that point, but I'm always surprised to see a debate with no yelling, especially on a topic as disagreed upon as this one

@prodipkumargogoi4546

3 жыл бұрын

@@77l96 same bro we are the killer

More people need to be this calm when debating ,rather than just screaming at each other.

@RisenAngel945

4 жыл бұрын

This is a civilised debate. Anything other is just acting as an animal, who screams louder or is more violent.

@NavyGuero83

4 жыл бұрын

A debate by definition is a discussion (heated or not), so if someone is just screaming at someone and/or not listening, presenting counter arguments, than it is not a debate.

@bluenomadbruh

4 жыл бұрын

If someone starts screaming, I withdraw. Screaming just shows u r an unworthy opponent.

@hovnousek1962

4 жыл бұрын

That's what the liberals do

@dumbthings7800

3 жыл бұрын

@@NavyGuero83 wouldn’t you say this is better for a real conclusion or to come to a middle ground?

“The reason people do t harm animals is because there out of reach” WTF 😳

Ed, I am watching every one of your videos one at a time, they just get better with each one. You are a treasure to this world, keep fighting for animals, and the rest of us will back you up. People like you are going to change the world for animals.

@91MattL

6 ай бұрын

And animals will continue not giving a fuck about you. You must think animals have a life purpose in their minds. Not even most of us have. Under controlled situations, animals are just energy for a greater good

I like how there both respectful and have facts and they aren’t getting triggered. Edit: to all y’all pressed about me spelling a word wrong. My bad I didn’t realize this was a spelling class.

@kevinvallejolee1

4 жыл бұрын

Where?

@habenwoldemelak4507

4 жыл бұрын

the yutber is triggered lol his opinions are based on emotions

@craigholmes9396

4 жыл бұрын

partially because they didn't completely disagree with each other. If not giving up eating meat was the stance of one, and the other pushed to make meat illegal and scorning the other for being a meat eater, well, welcome to the real world scenario.

@karnapriya4568

4 жыл бұрын

How do you use they aren’t correctly but not they’re 😅

@PauIdenino

4 жыл бұрын

@@habenwoldemelak4507 Explain

That wrinkle in the table cloth has me feeling some type of way..

@NoName-de1fn

4 жыл бұрын

Uncomfortable?

@ciara9414

4 жыл бұрын

I didn’t notice until I read your comment and now it’s got me fucked up lol

@sebastianmacchi6802

4 жыл бұрын

@@ciara9414 exactly this, now I feel sad >:(

@debralarocco7110

4 жыл бұрын

Please smooth it out!

@lindsylampi9481

4 жыл бұрын

It makes me unsettled. I feel an impulse to fix it

The meat eater seems like he doesn't find much joy in life...or is that just my American positivity and optimism?

People with this kind of cold world view cannot get behind the very valid moral arguments made my Ed. Honestly the core belief is unchangeable and any global arguments won’t work because it doesnt actually concern them. This is hard for us vegans to imagine since many of us feel pain knowing how animals are treated. Would be very interested in seeing Ed spread more knowledge on the medical perspective because that would have a better chance of concerning them directly.

Most vegans (including myself) have dealt with non-vegans arguing with you saying "oh but meat is so good" or "you don't get enough protein", but watching a non vegan calmly debate with a vegan and not just yell and be ignorant. This is very refreshing!

@BabyMango

3 жыл бұрын

Right. And it’s been proven that centenarians have a significantly LOW protein diet, with high vegetable intake, and that is the secret to long term living. This has been scientifically proven. It seems that in the “western world” we are obsessed with protein. I’m not entirely sure why. But it’s absolutely killing the people slowly who believe this.

@danacampbell2960

3 жыл бұрын

My fear is that I have seen a lot of vegans look sick looking , thats why I veer towards vegitatian or pescitarian way of living. Vegans you have to take a ton of supplements that seem to make it more work to be vegan as opposed to vegitatian

@user-hello2

3 жыл бұрын

@@danacampbell2960 That’s a bit rude... don’t judge people on how they look.

@ninjarebangbang

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly have more respect when someone tells me that they just love meat too much I have no respect for people to try to fling stereotypes at me

@ninjarebangbang

3 жыл бұрын

@@danacampbell2960 The only supplement vegans need is B-12. In reality, B-12 is hard to get at all. The unhealthy vegan is the minority The unhealthy omnivore is the majority

"If the universe is meaningless, so is the statement that it is so." - Alan Watts

@Kieranj8866

4 жыл бұрын

Love Alan Watts!

@TheLadyDelirium

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting thought

@InfernoFlame99

4 жыл бұрын

Ok whats your point?

@sierraalexandra7630

4 жыл бұрын

@@InfernoFlame99 I didn't say it, ask Alan

@apriltortorici9810

4 жыл бұрын

Psychopaths are always intelligent

Ed: You and me have the choice to be vegan The other guy: im not Ed: I presumed that, don’t worry Love it 😂

This is the most intelligent and respectful debate Ive ever seen. Amazing!

Someone fix the table cloth

@33peacelilly

4 жыл бұрын

😅

@BrennaMay

4 жыл бұрын

Slatt @brennamaykersten

@Frosee14

4 жыл бұрын

Slatt I see you 👀

@nihang8422

4 жыл бұрын

Someone OCD

@vincenttrujillo6143

4 жыл бұрын

Wish I never read this...>_

This debate should be brought as an example in schools

@lukewyeth1989

4 жыл бұрын

Leaders in power just laugh at the vegan concept. Just google Theresa May vegan. She slammed a vegan advocate a few years back.

This was surprisingly stimulating. I don't think I've seen this type of conversation go this well.

I like how the guest first talks about the material economic needs, and how these need to be met now and in the future, and then goes and to talk about how nothing matters because we'll all be atoms in a trillion years.

He keeps saying that the UK for example is not ready to go entirely vegan, that it will take about 50 years to adapt their economy and their agriculture to it. For me, that sounds like a great reason to go vegan, because the choices people make are what motivates change. If everyone in the world went vegan today that wouldn’t work. But that is not going to happen. You don’t need to slow down the change by not going vegan, going vegan is what motivates the change.

@Gaeisok

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. So many jobs can be created by going vegan. People argued that ending slavery would financially cripple the south. However, other industries took over and they were fine. That was with a sudden abolition of a HUGE part of the American economy. In the case of slavery it wasn’t obvious how they were going to move forward, but there are so many possible vegan jobs to be created with a higher demand.

@breathingsnow55

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I will never go vegan, pigs and cows taste nice

@Gaeisok

4 жыл бұрын

breathing Snow would you consider reducing some of your meat even if it’s just for health benefits? What if you just cut out pork and leave everything else? Or try have a vegetarian/vegan dinner once a week? Or perhaps buy a vegan protein bar and have it as part of your lunch? What if you like two types of crisps, you could buy the ones that don’t contain milk? Perhaps choosing the vegetarian pizza? These little choices add up You don’t have to go strictly vegan but you can reduce your meat consumption which will reduce the amount of suffering if animals. perhaps one less pig will scream in terror as a farmer chops off it’s tail🤷🏼‍♀️. you will be helping the environment far more than using paper straws and there will be health benefits on top of all that Would you consider it?

@lukemoulton3281

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gaeisok it's a shame you don't hear people say this much I think you have much more chance of making a positive impact by showing people the benefits of cutting down opposed to outright just asking people to give it up completely...

@someguy2135

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gaeisok Some omnivores might reduce to help the environment, or some for health. If they don't care about animals, they won't care about how many they are responsible for killing.

I guess you could justify doing pretty much anything if your attitude is "none of this matters in trillion years"

@bobkundi8858

4 жыл бұрын

Not if u know ur daughters daughters daughter daughter daughter daughter daughter daughter daughter is adorable and still alive 😁

@granchiocolcapello7171

4 жыл бұрын

Bob Kundi nah bro earth won’t be here in a trillion years

@KimFebriany

4 жыл бұрын

@@seercreators716 lol

@JamyOats

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobkundi8858 or, to quote Busted : "your great great great granddaughter... she's pretty fine"

@neociber24

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure, I don't agree with that argument. But maybe I could agree with "If there had not been a problem until now, surely won't be a problem in trillion years".

It makes me happy that this is a conversation where my blood isn’t boiling.. but on the other hand I’m getting quite sad because that bloke probably never felt responsible for / *really* took care of another animal like a dog or cat. He missed out on love and compassion.

Thank you for actually having a calm discussion about your viewpoints with people. It's nice to see people actually talking, instead of screaming in each other's faces. (Not just talking about vegans there, for the record; People just -don't know how- refuse to calmly discuss "anything" if they have different views, anymore...)

This is better than a debate. It’s two people having a respectful conversation on how to go about the future.

@chregig7967

4 жыл бұрын

That's what a debate should ideally look like.

@mash3519

4 жыл бұрын

A debate is about what’s right not who’s right

@pierred3088

4 жыл бұрын

I would even say we need more discussions, conversations are random where discussion are used to share about a subject. We need to think things more deeply.

@Jonas-cf4oi

4 жыл бұрын

@Lau taro plants are 'important' for the ecosystem of the planet. They're not 'unimportant' what do you mean anyways, since importance is such a shallow word something can only be important TO someone or something so it has to describe a relationship (but you only name one partner)

@judefeembo262

4 жыл бұрын

@Jan Sitkowski lmao

Earthling Ed has the clearest mind I know of. It's like he doesn't even have to think before talking. He just comes with the right argument right away.

@karos108

4 жыл бұрын

Experience

@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy

4 жыл бұрын

Nocolas Pirlet, Check out Reid of the "Cordial Curiosity" KZread channel.

@nicolaspirlet

4 жыл бұрын

@Sam the Storyteller if he only did that he would post once every 6 months. But he did debate "professionals" in the past

@connannbarbarin3033

4 жыл бұрын

then you need to go out and meet some new people

@iams2109

4 жыл бұрын

like politicians right? hahahaha

Finally someone who can have a reasoned intelligent discussion with dear Ed. Then again thete are some brilliant serial killers.

I will say to the "meals got boring" point: that's all on your cooking skills. Look up veggie recipes and experiment! So many meat eaters eat the same boring meals over and over and don't have much variation in their cooking skills.

@hayleygodwin7705

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I am a new vegan and I'm eating much more variety now, and am feeling so much healthier. Happier too then no animal suffered for it.

@1ramises

2 жыл бұрын

Diff is the meat tastes good and not like crap !

@PieInTheSky9

2 жыл бұрын

I mean it's not hard to look up meat recipes and experiment either. Both meat eaters and vegans can eat the same boring meals over and over.

@vasileteapa877

2 жыл бұрын

My friend, how many people can afford to experiment on a vegan diet when the majority of people wake up at 5, wash their teeth and go to work, work= stress, come back at 16, 17:00.There is no time for vegan bullshit for this life.A vegan diet is good for people who do almost no pshysical work, or sit at home and do almost nothing all day but cook and eat every 2 hours.This diet especially for men is feminizing, look at the majority of vegan males with their feminized voices.

@TheOwlQueen

2 жыл бұрын

@@PieInTheSky9 Yes, but that's not my point. My point is that if you switch to veganism and the reason you quit is because the meals get boring, that's on you. You are the one making those meals. And that many people don't realize how boring their meal routine is until they cut out meat and realize they weren't making very many variations. But when you go vegan or vegetarian, you are essentially forced to learn to use new ingredients and methods of cooking.

I was prepared for the worst but got positively surprised.

@SplitGoose

4 жыл бұрын

The Meat Eater just admitted that the legal system is the only thing holding him back from harming humans. It's funny how people are so quick to discard any information that conflicts with their sense of the world. "I'm a meat eater and I'm not ashamed, so therefore everything that this fellow meat eater said is morally correct. Because he represents and reminds me of myself." - Stefanie Dai

@websters8665

4 жыл бұрын

@@SplitGoose this is relevant to the original comment... yes

@SplitGoose

4 жыл бұрын

@@websters8665 "positively surprised" Yes, it is relevant. You however are not.

@ironprejudice8903

4 жыл бұрын

@@SplitGoose ;(

@ExpectedEvil

4 жыл бұрын

SplitGoose No he didn’t, you completely misunderstood what he was trying to say and twisted his words. You’re not clever.

I’m watching this from the States. You guys are having a genuine intellectual debate, while over here every conversation about veganism vs meat-eaters is like Erin and Joe Exotic having a boxing match.

@gdhsk5749

4 жыл бұрын

Sarah Edwards Yh that’s not vegan

@tuvi0032

4 жыл бұрын

@@gdhsk5749 lol

@dakotasm1266

4 жыл бұрын

Sarah Edwards literally 😭😭😭😭

@dancetothebaileybeat2809

4 жыл бұрын

It's not just America. In the UK people would be doing the exact same thing if they weren't too scared to offend people. So I can imagine the less friendly people who I don't see often will be just like you described. And on the internet you usually don't talk to people you don't know, so if you go onto anyone's social media, you're guaranteed to find an arguement.

@Jayyboogiee03

4 жыл бұрын

🤣

It's scary how eloquence doesn't always go with logic and ethics. People following law only from fear of punishment are scary.

@charlierose1842

Жыл бұрын

THIS ⬆️💔

@FS-ms2md

Жыл бұрын

He was logical.

@jakeshota4050

Жыл бұрын

He was the most logical person that i have seen Ed debate. Usually people claim that Ed "got them or beat them". This guy couldn't be persuaded and Ed didn't have a clear vegan solution for some of the claims that he made.

@Miritaxox

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, I think there is a psychopath hiden there💀😨

@sofiebrammer1482

Жыл бұрын

@@FS-ms2md He was logical, but some arguments were based on assumptions that at least I would not necessarily agree with. This whole "people only do not do certain things because otherwise they would be punished"-thing for example.

I thought mystery man represented himself really well until he confessed himself a moral nihilist around 20:30.

@elofkjellson3906

3 жыл бұрын

What is wrong with nihilism? Do you simply not wish to think about anything negatively? You would be denying many harsh realities of this world we live in. It isn't like being nihilistic makes you a psychopath.

@reedclippings8991

3 жыл бұрын

​@@elofkjellson3906 To say nothing matters because it won't matter at some point in the future is to be completely obsessed with the future and having impact on it. That need itself is irrational and super ego heavy. Meaning doesn't need to be dependent on "later". To me, many nihilists seem to take something obvious, like the eventual death of Earth, and then use it as an excuse to be apathetic (proven link with depression). I don't remember this video super well, but I think it may have been a last ditch effort appealing to futility. As if to say "This doesn't matter much anyways, so I'll eat what I want". Some forms of nihilism are factually true...don't want to get to caught up in that. Experience in each present moment matters, and need not be tied down to influence over anything in the future.

People who blindy follow societys laws without questioning it are the most dangerous type of people

@everettmenard8250

4 жыл бұрын

Lounnah I completely agree with your statement.

@nickgregoris

4 жыл бұрын

💯

@nickgregoris

4 жыл бұрын

@@FABIOof119 you talk a lot about science but link to none... Cite your sources if you want to talk science. Name the dozen nutrients you can't get in plants. Show studies that support your claims about fiber ruining the gut... I'll wait.

@jonahlevi3178

4 жыл бұрын

@@FABIOof119 a vegan diet prevents and reverses heart disease, obesity, cancers, arthritis, osteoporosis and prevents diabetes. and im not just making that up that is science! also animal products have acidic protein which leeches calcium from your bones! the china study is the biggest study of human nutrition in the world and it says a vegan diet is the best diet for all stages of life including infancy, pregnancy, and old age. a vegan diet is also the ONLY diet proven to reverse heart disease. if were meant to eat meat why does a very diet REVERSE the diseases meat causes? also that person is talking about how people just follow society even if society isnt ethical. for instance the same people who owned human slaves - still exist. and they dont own slaves now simply because everyone else doesn't. its not toxic to stand up for animals being raped tortured and killed. its toxic to pay for that to happen just because its legal. would you also try rape women if it were legal? its so simple. ❤

@jonahlevi3178

4 жыл бұрын

@@FABIOof119 lol! ok fat neckbeard i haven't eaten meat for 3 years and have no milk cheese or eggs (vegan) for 1. guess what! i have abs, im ripped af, definitely stronger than you! i can do human flag, gaining muscle, and youre just probably a fat f***ing neckbeard lmao. niiiiiiiice

Finally an actual DEBATE. Not something where it morphs into personal attacking and things that should be involved in a debate.

@99999george

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm so happy to see this. It's refreshing.

@99999george

4 жыл бұрын

@Sachin how would it be a debate if you agreed with both sides?

omg this guy is a piece of work, "we are all resources" im glad u got from that interview alive.

@AnthonyCook78

2 жыл бұрын

Why do anything is we're all just resources?

@gutzimmumdo4910

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyCook78 he is assuming 1 - that we know what we are (made of atoms or whatever he thinks he learn in a book or uni or school) 2 - science has told the public that we are made of inert matter and he is taking it very deeply as a hardcore fact. Therefore we are inert matter and theres no pourpouse to us more than fueling the system (like atoms would). Now im not saying thats wrong, but that seems to be his justification for beliving this, wich is insuficient... scientists themselves dont know what we are (nor claim to know) nor the reality we live in, we are just assuming things as convenient to us for applications.

@CPSPD

2 жыл бұрын

@@gutzimmumdo4910 It does not matter what we’re made of, because that’s not what’s being debated with that point. What it is, is the lessening of a moral imperative to do good and avoid harm because it “doesn’t matter”. Just like you laid out in point 2. Like, personally I believe that we are literally “just atoms” (obviously the deeper we look the more complexity we see), but that doesn’t mean things don’t matter. Whatever “I” or “me” actually is, I can perceive the world around me and I can suffer. I assume both of those facts for all other people and animals, since I can see it happening with my own eyes when humans and animals interact with the world and express suffering from pain stimuli and events (or I can have information about those concepts communicated to me by others), and then I can make reasonable assumptions by correlating these experiences together. But already with just those two facts of experience and suffering, which the guy in the video would agree with, you can argue towards axioms such as suffering being bad, which would then lead to a moral imperative such as minimising suffering.

@matohollo283

Жыл бұрын

Somebody telling truth at it really is...and most of us trying to act like they don't understand ..just for....???

His justification: "I don't give a fuck, really"

@exxtraterestial

2 жыл бұрын

Atleast he’s being honest. Not like other meat eaters who talk about economic, land or protein to justify it.😩

I like how the non-vegan's points were based on economy and jobs and not how good the meat tastes.

@AdelineCowgirl

3 жыл бұрын

He referenced taste quite a few times

@maxime9006

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdelineCowgirl Well it is a factor

@ob2395

3 жыл бұрын

He also said morality is subjective so…

@bojanaselih3918

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@job3950

3 жыл бұрын

'The meals got quite boring after a while' basically a mention of taste

This is like a discussion between two equally intelligent but completely morally opposite people who are also civil about it. I am here for this.

@solar_genesis

4 жыл бұрын

Well you made me see it now.

@bobkundi8858

4 жыл бұрын

Meat still wins ma heart :D

Thank you for this rich debate. We need more discussions like this one, they promote understanding. It's good and very helpful to take into account the arguments of the ones who disagree with you.

I could never have such an educated conversation

-"This conversation was stimulating" That has to be one of the nicest debate in the century

@blackmarlin3166

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah surely the hardest ive seen ed had to work

@lucasryan4181

3 жыл бұрын

This is probably the best one I've ever seen 😂 both were intelligent and respectful, It's really refreshing to listen to.

@wobblybobengland

2 жыл бұрын

yes, two good guys.

This is one of the most calm and respectful conversations I have ever seen.

Thank you for the work you do and the knowledge you impart not only to those you speak to, but to your fellow vegans. I learn a lot from you and you give me the confidence to continue on the cruelty free path.

Huge respect to the guy who came onto the show with Ed! He doesn’t deserve any hateful comments he was very respectful and vice versa, I imagine most of us would have more in common with him than not.

Americans watching this like: Is that what they call a functional education system?

@f1rebreather123

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@danielaziz5611

4 жыл бұрын

kiloisnear bruv it’s not tea and crumpets when you go east London , at least in a week a person is killed from knifes from gangs so don’t t listen to your friends

@logantobias3224

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielaziz5611 mong

@power2go3

4 жыл бұрын

If I were american I wouldn't be impressed by the British education system... If I were like, rural african I would be

@frostmagemarii

4 жыл бұрын

@@christianjamesmiller8388 The only places in Africa that have proper infrastructure and are able to have a worthwhile school system are the ones that the British Empire/United Kingdom had a hand in before leaving.

This guy could ve just said YOLO. It would ve saved me 27 minutes. GOD DAMNnnn

@tamcon72

4 жыл бұрын

LOL.

@user-cq9pd4md8v

4 жыл бұрын

LOL seriously

@tanvir699

4 жыл бұрын

still, rather support ed through the ads

@brightbruce3957

4 жыл бұрын

i hate ads more than my love of Ed. mmmmmm let that sink in

@DaN-or8gb

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

WOW! This debate is so refreshing, so civilized and mutually respectful, itgive me faith and hope for humankind!

Being vegan is only boring if you don't know how to cook. Jesus so much patience! I admire that Ed!! I wouldn't be able to hold like you (I'm also not one of those crazy ones who attacks others), but still would be hard not to give some harsh examples. So much to learn from you!!👏

I had that kind of total apathy half a year before going vegan. In retrospect it was because I was afraid world is such a dump and nothing can be done about it. Veganism gave me hope. I hope this guy will find the spark too.

@SebastianMarelli

4 жыл бұрын

And these kind of comments give me hope

@NickBlackmore

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome dude!

@WackoMac

4 жыл бұрын

Well said man. That spark you talk about is a fascinating thing. When the light comes on it's like such a night and day difference. No pun intended.

@orpheusowlallearthlingsmat6076

4 жыл бұрын

At the end you could clearly see he was depressed and he was grateful to Ed for talking to him. He doesn't realize his current diet and attitude towards animals only makes him sadder.

@martalost

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being open-minded, Grzegorz!! ☺️☺️

"I can get behind the value of life..." "Humans and non-human animals are resources..." This bloke makes me nervous...

@Vrin137

4 жыл бұрын

And, he was honest enough to say it out loud, the most dangerous ones pretend the opposite in public (e.g. politicians) but deep inside they think and act with that in mind!

@CPSPD

4 жыл бұрын

Aidan BUTLER capitalism 🤝 dehumanising humans Good one

@dontfrown3593

4 жыл бұрын

Do you work? Congratulations, you're a resource

@revacharlotte

4 жыл бұрын

he must be a pro capitalism colonialism

@revacharlotte

4 жыл бұрын

must be a pro global capitalism colonialism

Keep it up Ed! We may lose battle but not lose the war! ❤

i just got an ad showing a person packing meat, wow

@Uzy_71

3 жыл бұрын

That is some next level genZ luck 🤣🤣

After this... American viewers are going to be disappointed with the quality exhibited in their presidential debates.

@SirLogos

4 жыл бұрын

Before this, after this, if this never existed, i would be always disappointed with our presidential "debates"

@Mark-xw5yt

4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what happened in the comment section

@TheWhills

4 жыл бұрын

That’s the secret, Cap...we’re always disappointed

@thesnowflakediaries5267

4 жыл бұрын

are we forgetting parlament?

@shellshockedbros4458

4 жыл бұрын

After this? You mean before this? Idk I've always thought the elections were stupid.

people who say meals get boring just dont know how to cook lol

@highroadtohell

4 жыл бұрын

MrAchsas agree! You’re only swapping out one part 😂

@user-cq9pd4md8v

4 жыл бұрын

seriously.. I've made tastier and healthier meals since taking out animal products and thinking of new alternatives to meals I already love.

@jonahlevi3178

4 жыл бұрын

theres so many vegan options too theres 80000 plants and only 5 animals that people eat (yuck) and eggs (tortured chickens periods) and cheese (extra yuck)

@peterdelaney1946

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I'm not vegan, but I've eaten plenty of delicious plant based meals.

@MrAchsas

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-cq9pd4md8v yea same before i went vegan i always went for quick meals to cook now i actually use my brain xD and do proper meals

It’s funny how people say that they get bored with the repetitiveness of vegan food. Most meat eaters just eat a combination of bacon, chicken and beef. Doesn’t that get repetitive?

Absolutely incredible content. So well spoken on both sides

Finally a debate that doesn’t leave me braindead after 5 minutes. This was very interesting to watch!

@kylezinho_

3 жыл бұрын

Had me braindead after 10 minutes though

@entertainedsheep7668

3 жыл бұрын

A debate that makes you braindead after 15 minutes

@20yrs_oldBlackGuy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm very intelligent I'm questioning? Or have mental retardation.

Hearing the exchange: "Can I make a point?" "Yes, please you can, of course." was a minor one but arrestingly beautiful, none the less.

@Pollypockets313

2 жыл бұрын

“Arrestingly beautiful” that phrasing is so nice

Most people can never say "I like the taste and that's why I won't give up eating flesh."

@HutchHere

2 жыл бұрын

I can and i do

@ritam3184

Жыл бұрын

@@HutchHere actually everyone does say it. Fact is "the less u know the less you care" if you actually watched earthlings or dominions and still say that, then there is that though. Then u fullheardly don't give a fliying fuk, I will give it to you. But only after watching them.

Why do people in these debates always talk about other parts of the World? The question is why aren’t YOU vegan? Not why aren’t people in Kenya vegan!?

Its worse when they think they know what they're talking about 😐. Its sad that he thinks the only reason humans dont kill each other is because its against the law

@nestlawatr5643

4 жыл бұрын

Lb96 do you know what you’re talking about?

@Turgid_Spleenis

4 жыл бұрын

@@nestlawatr5643 Laws are just modern proxies for any form of system of consequences. Murder isn't rampant in anarchical societies because murder is antisocial. Laws aren't our basis for morality

@TheSadistNat1on

4 жыл бұрын

Perfectly analytically said..and in other words...we're all love, man

@Turgid_Spleenis

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSadistNat1on Love and consequences, haha.

@TheSadistNat1on

4 жыл бұрын

What traditional media would look like if we stopped giving microphones to dopes.

@user-eh1gc7xo7q

4 жыл бұрын

I agree but would you watch it? Surely a crackhead saying Religions all bad and the worlds corrupt is more entertaining, pull more viewers and thus money rather than these two here. Not defending it, but something to note

@mk9382

4 жыл бұрын

Well "we" aren't giving anyone the mic, they somehow just always end up talking bs and getting applause 😂

@adrianotaylor7230

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-eh1gc7xo7q hello

What a lovely debate. I appreciate how you both were respectful gentlemen.

Very nice talk. Both of you are intelligent and polite. You also don't get angry for disagreeing with each other. Wonderful, usually this kind of debates get very heated. Especially about controversial topics. Liked it, keep going mate.

In third world countries animal products are luxury ... the developed countries eat up the planet alone.

@iamlindavilela

4 жыл бұрын

the diet of kings and queens is killing us all.

@LuvuluvuLaChic

4 жыл бұрын

Eni That’s is so not true...Traveled a lot and most developing countries meat is a big part of their diet...Veganism is a privilege

@Biopoesis

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuvuluvuLaChic stop pretending rice and beans is a privilege lmao

@Masilya111

4 жыл бұрын

Thank god for your comment. I'm sick of people saying poor africans or asians would pratically die without meat. Wtf? Meat is still a luxury for the poorest and I'm sure many poor people are vegetarian/mostly vegetarian for financial, cultural reasons. They have their own crops, some since generations.

@romualdsg

4 жыл бұрын

Masilya111 i dont think you have been to the poor countrys, especially in their country sides...

At the end of the day, veganism/vegetarianism will always win the moral argument. One day I hope I'll be selfless enough commit to fully it.

@nicolausthothmes2325

4 жыл бұрын

Wins the moral argument, not the logical one.

@austinknox8088

4 жыл бұрын

Yes correct, veganism will always win the moral argument while an omnivorous diet will win the biological argument.

@nicolausthothmes2325

4 жыл бұрын

@@dryfter2021 I know this comment wasn't towards me, but what does that have to do with anything?

@vccv9785

4 жыл бұрын

It won't. Morality and moral standards aren't inherently normative. A person arguing from a teleological or say a utilitarian point of view would have equally valid arguments as a person arguing from a deontological point of view.

@arnoldo8642

4 жыл бұрын

@@austinknox8088 there is no biological argument we can survive and thrive either way (barring rare conditions of course) so its up to you whether you want to support the murder and torture of animals or not

I admire Ed for understanding that people haven’t actually thought much about why they do anything. This is probably this persons first time actually testing out his own thoughts on the subject. I’ve listened to a few of these now, and all the people he speaks with say the same things. Which shows me the group think.

Impressive debate here, great conversation, intelligent and respectful. In the end empathy wins it for me. Loving the channel Ed!

I’m super impressed with the guy in black. He really seemed to know his stuff and held his points well while being mindful of the conversation itself. He didn’t become overly emotional and he also seemed like a good listener. This conversation basically boiled down to doing what works vs what is right.

I've never seen a casual debate where everyone was so civilized and informed. A real joy to watch something like this

@mayadunn508

4 жыл бұрын

Love your icon :))

I really like seeing two people debating civilly ❤️ vegans can start the conversation and the thought process he will go away and think about this conversation, I love being vegan , but at one point I didn’t think I could be , so I have hope for the future x